WEBVTT - Interview With a Vampire (and Interview with Sam Reid)

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<v Speaker 1>Warning warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode contained spoilers for the Vampire Chronicle series. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Anne Rice's Vampire Chrolanicle series. That's all the books, movies,

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<v Speaker 2>television series.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been warned. Dawn. Hello, my name is Rosie Night.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to a special Friday episode of Xtra Vision where

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<v Speaker 2>our super producer joelmen Nique is gonna come on and

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<v Speaker 2>sell us on why you should be watching an Interview

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<v Speaker 2>with the Vampire. I'm already watching it, but she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make you realize that this is a show you have

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. And yes, we are here to deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into your favorite shows, movies, and pop culture. We're here

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<v Speaker 2>every Tuesday, and every Thursday and sometimes Friday when we

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<v Speaker 2>might are in a correspondent to tell you why you

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<v Speaker 2>should be watching something you haven't yet dived into.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a Friday, and today Rosie and I are

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<v Speaker 3>taking a very queer, Gothic romantic dive into an RISI's

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<v Speaker 3>Vampire Chronicles, sometimes reforward to as the Immortal Universe, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess for television things for television.

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<v Speaker 2>For television, that's the shared universe of the Interview with

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<v Speaker 2>the Vampire and the Mayfair Witches that exist on AMC Plus.

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<v Speaker 3>And a third series, which we're going to talk about next.

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<v Speaker 3>But first, in our previous only on, we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the expansion of An Rice's Immortal Universe. Then we're

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<v Speaker 3>head over to our airlock. We have a conversation on

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<v Speaker 3>season two of An Rice's Interview with a Vampire over

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<v Speaker 3>on the AMC Plus. Absolutely worth the price of a

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<v Speaker 3>subscription for a month. You can binge it now. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we'll head over to back Matter to talk modern

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<v Speaker 3>adaptations in toxic romances in fantasy fandoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they're so toxic, but they're so enticing.

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<v Speaker 2>And stay tuned after our airlock discussion for a really

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<v Speaker 2>lovely interview with Sam Reid from Interview of the Vampire

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<v Speaker 2>who plays Lastatt de Lion Court. But first it's previously on,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk about the Talmasca spinoff series.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a very interesting situation. I only know

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<v Speaker 2>about the Talamasca because I love Queen of the Damned,

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<v Speaker 2>which we both love, Joelle.

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<v Speaker 3>And I great film.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the Ann Raich series Mayfair Witches, which is

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<v Speaker 2>as all of her books are in a shared universe,

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<v Speaker 2>they introduced to Talamasca. And now in season two of

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<v Speaker 2>Interview the Vampire. Mild spoiler alert, we are given documents

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<v Speaker 2>that are related to our beloved Louis by a Tallamasca

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<v Speaker 2>agent called Raglan James. A incredible naming there, and incredible

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<v Speaker 2>naming for sure. So Joel, what is the Talamasca?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is an organization that monitors the supernatural with

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<v Speaker 3>many of its agents like supernatural abilities, which we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>seen in the show yet, but kind of gets me excited. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, this is how out of the loop I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started reading the Vampire Chronicles in order to

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<v Speaker 3>do like the recap for this show today. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, man, Interview the Vampire was so good. So

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<v Speaker 3>then I got halfway into the stats book, which is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be so great for season three of Interview with

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<v Speaker 3>the Vampire. Yeah. Then as I was doing research on like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let me go deeper into the show that oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>there's an entire spin off called Mayfair, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>second season. It just wrapped filming and it's coming to

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<v Speaker 3>you soon and they're connected by the cool agents. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I have so much reading and watching to do,

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<v Speaker 3>which is I think great news if you're like man,

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<v Speaker 3>I really like this series. Is there anything else I

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<v Speaker 3>can read?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say I was a big fan of

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<v Speaker 2>The Mayfair Witches. It's Alexandra Didario, who I love. She's

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<v Speaker 2>like a genre icon now an Emmy no thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>White Lotus, but it's basically like she's and she finds

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<v Speaker 2>out that there's this kind of magical legacy in her

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<v Speaker 2>family of witches, and she moves back to New Orleans

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<v Speaker 2>and she has to live in a beautiful witch house

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<v Speaker 2>and there's kind of a strange mystery and the Talamasca

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<v Speaker 2>comes into it. And I knew the Talamasca, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the fantastic movie Queen of the Damned, which

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<v Speaker 2>was meant to be a you know, straight to video

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<v Speaker 2>sequel to interview the vampire, but ended up going to

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<v Speaker 2>the movie theaters after the far too sudden death of

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<v Speaker 2>the one for Aliyah who stars in it as Akasha.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the Talamasca was brought up, I was like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what this is. This is like reading a

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<v Speaker 1>comic book, like I get this.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently with the success of Maifo Witches, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just finished its second season, and obviously the fantastic interview

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<v Speaker 2>of The Vampire, which we know is getting its third season,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be its Queen of the Damned season. They

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<v Speaker 2>have decided to make a Talamasca TV show, and Damn McDermot,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the President of Entertainment for AMC Studios and AMC Networks,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, this is a story we've been developing and

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to tell from the earliest moments of the franch

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<v Speaker 2>focused on a fascinating and compelling secret society that has

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<v Speaker 2>already appeared in both of our existing and Rice series.

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<v Speaker 2>John Lee Hancock will be the person taking on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says this all started for me with a

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<v Speaker 2>call from Mark Johnson, who asked if I'd ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of the Talamasca. I was intrigued by the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>an organization that to me had more than a passing

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<v Speaker 2>resemblance to the CIA or MI six, which are necessary

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<v Speaker 2>but not always necessarily transparent. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>agree that they're necessary, but sure, sure, John, Okay, John,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm gonna be. I appreciate your generous reading.

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<v Speaker 2>They're an organization with their own secrets. Thankfully, dam mcdummott

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<v Speaker 2>liked to take and so did Mark Lafferty. Who's so

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<v Speaker 2>talented and accomplished in the world of television, So that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds very exciting. I like the idea of a critical

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<v Speaker 2>take on a you know, why is this supernatural task

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<v Speaker 2>force being so kind of shady In the Queen of

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<v Speaker 2>the Damn movie, it's much more of a Giles from

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<v Speaker 2>Buffy style, like librarian organizations, So it'll definitely be interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see their new take. I hope it's not too

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<v Speaker 2>gritty and grounded because I like my magic to be magical.

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<v Speaker 1>But so far a.

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<v Speaker 3>Really good job. Yeah. Between bull series. Again, I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>fully invested into the Mafair which is yet. I watch

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of trailers in a few scenes and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, this is the same vibes a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 3>but kind of say it's more it takes place in

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<v Speaker 3>New Orleans, but it gives me sort of more East

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<v Speaker 3>Coast vibes as opposed to Southern, where as Interview Vampire is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, it's very like.

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<v Speaker 2>It really reminded me of the much maligned Swamp Thing show,

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<v Speaker 2>which I absolutely love.

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<v Speaker 3>We really enjoy it, and it's still.

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<v Speaker 1>You can watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still watch it, I believe on Max and

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<v Speaker 2>also for free on the cwced app, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's still available to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm like, just make the most of it. Make

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<v Speaker 1>the most of it. It gave me those kind of vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a modern Gothic, a little bit less Southern,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like, you know, Interview with the Vampire

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<v Speaker 2>does all the Southern Gothic we could dream of.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's okay, true with it, which is we should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Different, I think, especially as we're looking to expand into

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<v Speaker 3>a larger universe, like you want to have spaces that

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<v Speaker 3>are distinct and like specifically of themselves and to move into,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, away from queer vampires and white women trying

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<v Speaker 3>to connect to her lineage and find romance. I imagine is

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<v Speaker 3>what we're doing in Mayfair Witches, two suited guys being

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<v Speaker 3>hard asses and kind of like hot procedural. I imagine

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get a little of that vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see the whole which procedural that would

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<v Speaker 2>be so funny. Okay, Well, Talamasca allegedly gonna be hitting

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<v Speaker 2>our screens next year twenty twenty five, baby, and coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>we're stepping into the airlock or out of the airlock

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<v Speaker 2>either way, and talking season two of Interview of the Vampire. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here, we're stepping out of the airlock and into

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful streets of gay partis because that's my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>part of this series.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, before we get into season two, can you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about your reaction to see season one. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>with such a I was gonna say sleeper thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was lucky enough I actually found out about

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<v Speaker 2>Interview that I knew it was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>A big fan of these books.

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<v Speaker 2>As imperfect as they are, They're not something I go

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<v Speaker 2>back and read a lot because they're pretty racist, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the world, the world that Anne Rice created,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is very magical. She's a legendary goth Icon

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<v Speaker 2>and her and her son Christopher have have grown a

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<v Speaker 2>lot throughout telling these stories. And she was very involved

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<v Speaker 2>in this adaptation and very open to broadening the world

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<v Speaker 2>and making it more inclusive and kind of dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff that she didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with when she was writing this book, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty year old back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was very excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and we should mention here that Yeah. This book

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<v Speaker 3>is inspired by the passing of her daughter, who was

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<v Speaker 3>five and had leukemia, and so as you're reading it,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a it's a strange experience if you come

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<v Speaker 3>and having zero history or knowledge with like what was

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<v Speaker 3>this woman? What was happening in her world? At first

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<v Speaker 3>she spends so she also wrote this book without an editor,

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<v Speaker 3>which I find hilarious. If you've ever done any editing,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, okay, and you're a fabulous writer. And editor

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<v Speaker 3>might have helped in spots, just ask a few questions,

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<v Speaker 3>tone a few things down here and there, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But she spends a lot of time talking about how

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful Claudia, who becomes like the two main vampires familiar

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<v Speaker 3>later she's beenen at a very young age, I think

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<v Speaker 3>five in the book, like her daughter in the television

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<v Speaker 3>series she's fourteen. And on top of that, then she

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<v Speaker 3>spends a lot of time talking about like it's not coded,

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost blatant, and yet it's done so subtly. The queerness,

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<v Speaker 3>the queer element of it. Louie's clearly like falling in

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<v Speaker 3>love with guy. He's falls in love with Armandi, falls

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<v Speaker 3>in love with the Stott but it's it's done in

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<v Speaker 3>a way that it's like, oh, but they're vampires, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's not quite the same Isaac. Yeah, there's I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's any there's no sex, right, No, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no penetration in the novel.

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<v Speaker 2>The truth is that Anne Rice has always embraced the

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<v Speaker 2>queerness of vampirism, and also I think that she embraced

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<v Speaker 2>her queer readership too, and I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I love that you brought up her.

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<v Speaker 2>Own personal connection to it and kind of how her

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<v Speaker 2>goth culture was almost like her mourning for her daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and I it's such a personal story. I love the

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<v Speaker 2>original movie. I think it's like legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Just absolutely fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so gay, even if they didn't want to commit,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very implied in that film. But yes, absolutely, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much yearning.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the roof. Okay, we are looking across rooms, We

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<v Speaker 3>are jealous of other men being near our guy. It is,

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<v Speaker 3>it is all. It feels like original fan fiction. Reading

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<v Speaker 3>the novel, I was like, this is every hardcore fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>romance trope you could possibly imagine. Definitely woven. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like overwhelmed, are like, oh, this is tacky or weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an exceptional read, particularly you fall more in love

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<v Speaker 3>with Louie. And season one I thought, my god, the

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<v Speaker 3>changes like coming in and they were like Louis Black.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm here for it. It's New Orleans and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need the listen if you read the book

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<v Speaker 3>just to like we mentioned, it's racist. It's extremely racist

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<v Speaker 3>in that if you are a descendant of slaves, you

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<v Speaker 3>might have to close the book many times, like I did,

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<v Speaker 3>because slaves are just slaves like capital s, slaves like

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<v Speaker 3>not people. Louie is terrified of them for reasons you

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<v Speaker 3>can't quite understand, as quote their master, and also later

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<v Speaker 3>as a vampire, he's like you couldn't control them their Africans.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a lot to deal with in the first

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet generously, I'm like, he should be scared of them

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<v Speaker 2>because he is a slave, Like you know what, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's right to be scared of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I love the choice that they made to

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<v Speaker 1>make Louis black.

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<v Speaker 2>They do a great job integrating his race into the

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<v Speaker 2>story as like actually a major and I was really

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have AMC plus, which has many people I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure also didn't have it. But if you love a

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<v Speaker 2>fast channel as they call it, you know, free ad

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<v Speaker 2>supported TV. Me and Nick were watching TV one night

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<v Speaker 2>and they had a channel. It was called like AMC.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on CHEWB or Roku, and it was called

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<v Speaker 2>like AMC Gems or something AMC Thrillers, and they just

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<v Speaker 2>played the entire first season of the show a h

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<v Speaker 2>and it was when it was just it had just

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<v Speaker 2>come out, it wasn't even that long ago, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh my god, this is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so great.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I couldn't believe that they'd found like Sam Reid

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<v Speaker 2>is so fantastic as Lestat, and I'd always had my

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<v Speaker 2>own fang castings of who that should be, but I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like he really brought something interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And scary to it. And also obviously you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is just such a strong cast.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an incredibly strong cast. Like so, yes, Sam Reed

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<v Speaker 3>is favloss. If you're a fan of the novels as well,

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<v Speaker 3>then you'll be super excited because so Sam Sam loves

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<v Speaker 3>these books. So he can tell you his favorite line

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<v Speaker 3>from both the novels and the television series. He's an

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<v Speaker 3>active watcher of the TV series Season two, Lastat isn't

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<v Speaker 3>it much less? It's fine. He's gonna be the star

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<v Speaker 3>of season three. He's like, genuinely loves playing Lestatte, loves

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<v Speaker 3>Lastatt as a character, and you get to see him

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<v Speaker 3>in pu so much. He's terrifying. At points he's heartbroken

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<v Speaker 3>and at others he's doing so much. And what I

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<v Speaker 3>really like about season two is we slowly venture our

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<v Speaker 3>way over. There is the way this show when you

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<v Speaker 3>start seeing to you like, my god, it be such

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<v Speaker 3>a victim, like he keeps falling for these toxic people

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<v Speaker 3>who are taking over his life.

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<v Speaker 1>We should also say Jacob Anderson. You might know miss Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>He plays Louis. He's absolutely fantastic. He's the center of

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<v Speaker 2>this show.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the heart of it. You love him so much.

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<v Speaker 3>His face does such magical things where you're just like I.

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<v Speaker 3>I would follow Louis Overcliff. I understand why everybody immediately

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<v Speaker 3>meets him and is like, do I am I in

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<v Speaker 3>love with this man? Is this the man of my dreams?

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<v Speaker 3>My soulmate? I too would feel that way. If I

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<v Speaker 3>look Jacob Anderson and his stunning eyes. I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>does so much, and he's like again to hear like

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<v Speaker 3>his castmates talk about the choices he makes us a performer.

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<v Speaker 3>They're so strong and always so shocking. I started season

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<v Speaker 3>two being like, gosh, Louie can't like season one is fabulous.

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<v Speaker 3>Louie is a guy who who's shunned by every aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of can He loses his brother, who's like his best friend,

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<v Speaker 3>to suicide. It's challenging for him to understand that choice

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<v Speaker 3>and to understand his role in that choice. Then his

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<v Speaker 3>sister is like the gay his mom. His mom is

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<v Speaker 3>like the gay thing is too much, and his sister's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what this vampire weird thing you've got

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<v Speaker 3>going on now, but there's too much distance between us

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<v Speaker 3>and we need to not be near each other. There's

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<v Speaker 3>sabotage and betrayal and it's so now no community. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a pimp, but he doesn't really like doing that, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's alien needs him further from humanity, which Louis loves

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<v Speaker 3>so much. What makes him a terrible vampire? At first

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, but I love humans that a this is strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he starts flung lestar as in the space where

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<v Speaker 3>he can just be himself. And so immediately you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand why you're falling for this narcissist. It's it's understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves you because you're a mirror and he sees

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<v Speaker 3>himself and he loves that. And you love him because

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<v Speaker 3>he's allowing you a space to be yourself and.

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<v Speaker 1>He accepts who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>This and this you know you can be this violent, angry,

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<v Speaker 2>furious person you never got to be. And yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 2>just so delightful together.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't hold it against you. I mean, it's it's everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a toxic relationship, but you can absolutely see why.

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<v Speaker 2>And kind of their first season, I would say basically

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<v Speaker 2>because it's much more closely adapting the books. It sort

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<v Speaker 2>of ends in some ways where the movie ends, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we get apart in season two follows a section

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't get in the first season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, since we leave the timeline. Yes, is

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<v Speaker 3>distract If you feel the need to be fully grounded,

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<v Speaker 3>it will take you some time to be like what

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<v Speaker 3>is We evolved throughout season one with this relationship where

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<v Speaker 3>they are so their love revolves around them being able

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<v Speaker 3>to play with and destroy the people that have hurt

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<v Speaker 3>them most, and then of course they become the people

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<v Speaker 3>that hurt each other most, and so toxicity it devolves.

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<v Speaker 3>They get a daughter to try to save the marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>Louise like, I don't want to kill one more precious thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She Please save her, and Prosot's like that's gonna end badly,

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't do it. But they do it anyway, and

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<v Speaker 3>they love her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a child vampire that they shouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to be sixty and a fourteen year old body.

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<v Speaker 3>That's confusing for everyone. And so they have this kid.

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<v Speaker 3>But the kid is like, yo, this is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>messed up here. Like dad I love who is supportive

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<v Speaker 3>aka Louis, why do you let abusive daddy hurt you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's strange abusive daddy I really like killing We have

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<v Speaker 3>fun doing that. But also you're so mean to this

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<v Speaker 3>parent who is so emotionally supportive of me. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge. We should get rid of you. You're dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>So they do again more a thousand different portrayal. A

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<v Speaker 3>party to end all parties. That's pretty much everything happens

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<v Speaker 3>season one. It's delightful, but you end with this feeling

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<v Speaker 3>of like my God.

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<v Speaker 2>And we basically leave Claudia and And and Louis have

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<v Speaker 2>left the stat for dead. Is kind of yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>and there and they're hoping for.

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<v Speaker 1>A new, new, great world together.

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<v Speaker 3>They leave their at home. It's terrible, really, it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>They start off in Eastern Europe in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>World War two, so not a good not a good

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<v Speaker 3>place to start. They're picking through bodies and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how to navigate this space. But really, Claudia

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<v Speaker 3>has cemented in her brain that what she needs more

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<v Speaker 3>than anything is to find vampires. She's like, she tried

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<v Speaker 3>it once in season one. It was awful. You tried

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<v Speaker 3>to warn her. They're like, listen, the vampires out. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not great. And she's convinced herself that despite this horrible

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<v Speaker 3>interaction she's had, that there must be a space for her.

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<v Speaker 3>And something we get out early on is she freezes

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<v Speaker 3>out Louis. She's like, I'm not speaking to you right

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<v Speaker 3>now because you can distantly choose that man over me,

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<v Speaker 3>even the killing. In order to kill a vampire, you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta either burn the body or leave it out in

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<v Speaker 3>the sun, or fully beheaded. Louis slitless, stats thrown through

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<v Speaker 3>him a suitcase and was like, that's probably good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And also he left him where there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>rats where I think he knew that he could see

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<v Speaker 2>could survive, because really that's his boyfriend and he can't

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<v Speaker 2>say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so sorry you should have killed him. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I understand, and I love this for.

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<v Speaker 3>You, guys. I'm glad lest that's still around, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it for us because I want to watch the

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<v Speaker 2>show for the next like seven seasons or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I need more of your toxic romance. So appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>making bad decisions. But also that leads your daughter in

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<v Speaker 3>a space of being like where do I exist? Where

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<v Speaker 3>do I stand? Who loves me the most? And currently

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<v Speaker 3>no one. It's looking pretty hopeless. They're still dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>racism even in eastern Germany. They're like black Ukrainians, not

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<v Speaker 3>a thing, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But then then they find a space. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of humans. Humans are afraid of what's out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Things are getting you. There's garlic. Claudia's like this is

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<v Speaker 3>ringing bells. I've read all the books. I know where

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<v Speaker 3>they're at.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, this seems like they're worried about vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>Who it's like that stuff doesn't work. She's like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the point, that's not what we're talking about. It working,

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<v Speaker 3>Like they believe it must be a vampire. And of

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<v Speaker 3>course they stumble across one d Dashna is that actually name?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she's so scary.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this one. It's giving very sleepy hollow backwards,

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<v Speaker 3>which if you're into the nineteen ninety nine classic sleepy Hollow. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about a lot of toxic men today. I digress.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, which I like this because this is

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<v Speaker 2>it's very you know, when you go to Eastern Europe

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<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking about vampires, you're expecting Dracula and old Blood,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know they're hunting for, you know, the truth

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<v Speaker 2>about what inspired the Dracula myths, and this is very.

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<v Speaker 1>Much that old school scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula s Yeah, like nosfera too monstrous kind of of vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>And this obviously doesn't go very well for.

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<v Speaker 1>For Claudia and Louis because Colia has just accidentally killed

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<v Speaker 1>Dashania's prodigy.

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<v Speaker 3>Her last, her last one. She's she's like one are

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<v Speaker 3>the others? She's like, you killed the last one like

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<v Speaker 3>she she takes out his eyes in a very dope scene.

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 3>We can be real about it, and then she's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of sorry I killed your progeny, but you

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<v Speaker 3>should come with us and hang out like you're all

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<v Speaker 3>here alone. You would drink the blood is bad. Okay,

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.239
<v Speaker 3>war has made the blood toxic. You shouldn't be drinking it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, please come leave with us, and she starts

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<v Speaker 3>to say yes. She talks about the days that Claudia

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<v Speaker 3>has ahead of her. She says this very important line,

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<v Speaker 3>we own the night. Yes, she asked it us a question,

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<v Speaker 3>and then halfway into being like, yeah, you'll take me

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<v Speaker 3>across the ocean and I'll have this better life, she

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<v Speaker 3>stops and says we own nothing and self emilates cool.

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<v Speaker 3>War is bad. It has a lot of Wait, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a extremely traumatic moment for Claudia of all she's had.

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Her whole life is one extended traumatic moment. Poor Claudia.

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<v Speaker 3>But it causes Louie to sort of make this declaration.

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<v Speaker 3>They leave. They're like, they decide they may like some

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<v Speaker 3>human paths along the way. They get screwed over because

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:18.960
<v Speaker 3>they get bit and they're like, listen, that's human business.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't be involved in that anymore, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>first time you get that from Louis. Louis like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, No, I'm not human, I'm a vampire, and

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, I'm a father brother to Claudia. They use

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<v Speaker 3>it meant. The other confusing thing about this is like

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<v Speaker 3>the sometimes weird incest tones, So like, what is the

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<v Speaker 3>actual relationship between progeny turned vampire, master vampire and siblings.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot. And so they hop in a truck.

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<v Speaker 3>They're traveling with the statue of Venus, right, I think

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 3>it's the one, the one without the arms. You guys

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<v Speaker 3>know she's famous.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just send the Simpsons episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, you know, just the thing. It's on its

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<v Speaker 3>way to the Louver. They're on their way to Paris,

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<v Speaker 3>and Louis makes this declaration, this clear promise. That is

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<v Speaker 3>the most if you've ever been with a parent where

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<v Speaker 3>it's the two of you and conditions are not great

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 3>around you, you know, for whatever reason, and they turn

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<v Speaker 3>to you a say listen, I've got Oh it's the most

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 3>comforting thing in the world. It's the I've got you speech,

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<v Speaker 3>It's the you don't have you can be a child,

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<v Speaker 3>you can be a young person, you can be figuring

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<v Speaker 3>things out. I will make sure that it's the two

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<v Speaker 3>of us holding us down and that we will be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is everything she wants and everything you want

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<v Speaker 3>for the two of them to have, and they let

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<v Speaker 3>you have it for two point five seconds because they care.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes Armond and Louie's back in love and it is

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit devastate. Talk to me about Armand, because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize we don't get Armand's full story until

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<v Speaker 3>book freaking six. The way, I just be absorbed in

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<v Speaker 3>these novels for the next several weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you remember, Almond is in the movie kind

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<v Speaker 2>of briefly in a similar way, played by Antonio Banderas,

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<v Speaker 2>and we kind of get a very compressed version of

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<v Speaker 2>what we see here.

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>But Armand here is we really.

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<v Speaker 2>Get to actually explore who he is, who the theater

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<v Speaker 2>this vampires are who have been kind of watching Louie

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<v Speaker 2>and Claudia while they're in Paris and kind of working

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<v Speaker 2>out whether or not they want to join they should

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<v Speaker 2>get them to join the coven.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I will say the show is.

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<v Speaker 2>Called Interview with the Vampire in the original the set

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<v Speaker 2>up was, you know, Louie is giving a interview with

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<v Speaker 2>an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>It was originally meant to be I mean, with a journalist.

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<v Speaker 2>It was originally supposed to be real a phoenix, but

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix passed away, Rip to our.

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Baby and his friends.

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 2>We lost all the things we lost, but his loving

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<v Speaker 2>friend Christian Slater, one of my favorite actors, came in.

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<v Speaker 2>He took on the role of the journalist Daniel Molloy,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was so fantastic. And when they were recasting

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 2>the show, I was like, oh, how could they do

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it without Christian Slater? But little did I know that

0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 2>they were going to cast Eric Bogosian as Daniel Molloy.

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>In one of the best castings of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've seen Daniel go from the beginning of season

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<v Speaker 2>one where he does not believe anything Louis is saying

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and thinks it's absolute nonsense to by this point when

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>he is meeting Armand and you know, he's talking with

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Louie again, and this time Armand is part of the interview.

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 2>He's becoming enchanted by the vampires and their story, and

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<v Speaker 2>the impact that Armand has on Daniel is really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because it is reflective of the impact that Armand has

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<v Speaker 2>on Louis when they first meet, and of course poor

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Claudia gets shoved to the back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>A parent who is in a toxic relationship and you

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>are not the primary focus of their interest or care anymore, well, baby,

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>this is going to hit hard for you because Claudia

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<v Speaker 2>basically is left behind as Louis finds himself in the

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Theater des Vampires who.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this is definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>One in the moment where I was like screaming when

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<v Speaker 2>we find out in episode two that, like, guess who

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 2>was the co founder of this theater. It was funny,

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 2>like can you ever get away from this man?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>A word from our sponsors and we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>The pan to the portrait above is so impressied, so

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<v Speaker 3>basically we have to rewind just a schmitch. So, first

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 3>of all, theatric to Vampire is a huge setting for

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 3>interview with Vampire. It's like very important. It's the first

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 3>time they meet a coven and this covenant in France.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>The coven's really pissed because when you come to a

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 3>coven city, you're supposed to come in like pay amag

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 3>You're supposed to come through and be like, hey, I'm here.

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to cause you trouble. Just let through whatever,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 3>ask permission to stay, that kind of stuff. But they

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 3>spend months in Paris being quintessential American like tourists. They're like, oh,

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 3>pictures and he's got like berets and like handkerchiefs around

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 3>his neck. He's very an American in Paris style dress throughout.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 3>It's so cute and.

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>If them slightly like they didn't know, they don't know

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the rules.

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's not didn't tell them the rules. You know, he

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't do a good thing.

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Begged all of season one to be like, please teach

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 3>me what it means to be a vampire? Self like,

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 3>is it not natural to you? And he's like, please,

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 3>could you just tell me what it is for us?

0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Me doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Are there others out He's like, they're scary and weird

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 3>out there. You're lucky to be here with me. I'm toxic. Stay.

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So they get to they get to France and they

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<v Speaker 3>find them and they get to this theater and they're

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 3>like listen and we got you guys, good seats. So

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 3>it comes sit down middle center and see our show,

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 3>and the show starts off goofy, very French, very like mime.

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Then you get Santiago. Another very important feature comes out

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 3>and he gives a devastating speech that is so and

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>immediately like, oh this theatroops kind of good and I

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 3>get why you'd want to live that nightlife and it's

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 3>very cool here, and I too want to be involved.

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And they're going through all of these sets and then

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 3>suddenly it stops being a play you understand as a

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>viewer because the tone has shifted, and now there is

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 3>a terrified, half naked woman on stage pleading for her life.

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 3>The woman the actress playing that woman is actually the

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 3>assistant to the director, and the production found out she

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 3>could act and they were like, do you want to

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 3>do this role? And she kills it. Her terror is palpable.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 3>She's begging the audience. But the point of the theater

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>is that you can transcend belief. And so the vampires

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 3>get to be themselves, for however, temporarily in front of

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 3>human beings, and they get to exalt in being vampires

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 3>and show off being vampires, and Claudia is enraptured. Immediately,

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 3>she is like, this is they are just killing and

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 3>having fun and nobody cares and there's not going to

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>be any trouble and and they.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Get to be a star y, you know, Claudia gets

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>her wish and we see her she gets the star

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>in the play, but she ends up hating the play

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 2>because she's playing a baby for.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Her whole life.

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I will say we're about halfway through season

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>two now, I think we could let's talk a bit

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.199
<v Speaker 2>more about like how we feel about season two and

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>where it left us, because we could.

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Talk about this all day. So we kind of get

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to explore this.

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>We get some really great stuff with Louis and Armand

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and Daniel, and we kind of make our way to

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>the end, which sets up our big season three, which

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>will be the rock starless stat stuff that we saw

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 2>in Queen of the Dams. Okay, Joelle, Yeah, So something

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>we talked about before this that I really like, I

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>would love to hear your things. How does it feel

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>to kind of watch this and see those changes that

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>have been made to kind of make this more modern,

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to make it more inclusive, to make it basically more

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting and more historically.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, like what does that feel like for you?

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Phenomenal as a writer to be like, what if I

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 3>was able to plus everything I wrote twenty years ago

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 3>still connect with like an original audience that loved it,

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 3>find a new audios, and imbue so much of what

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 3>was happening to me back then that I couldn't process

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 3>into this space. They really really honor the life of

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>anta Resis child throughout this. If this is a book

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 3>about grieving her, what does that mean? So by if

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 3>you age her up from five to fourteen? Right, a

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 3>five year old is great in a book, and as

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 3>a ten year old in the movie they found an actress, Yeah,

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 3>like horrifying, Like she's she's insat she'll be hungry. As

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 3>a five year old, she's nuts. In the movie she's ten, right,

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 3>And so now as a ten year old, you can

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 3>be kind of like a little mini terror. You don't

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>maybe don't have enough like physical power, but you understand

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 3>enough of what's going on, and you know it's it's

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>still kind of offsetting. At fourteen, you are on the

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 3>cusp of what you are so close to being a woman,

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>but you're still definitively a child. And to on top

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>of that, you're in a hormonal rage all the time.

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 3>There's there's it's it's literally in your body. I hated

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 3>being fourteen. It was awful. I can't imagine being arrested

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>in that state for all of existence. And so I

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>found by aging her up and allowing an older actress

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to play her, they were able to strike such a

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 3>balance of what it means to love and lose a

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>child because you get like man Louis in the finale,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>and again, if you haven't watched and you're like, okay,

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm invested now, but that was time to pause our show.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, take it if you If this sounds

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>like you're something you would just absolutely love to watch,

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>just just just pop it on right now, just start

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>right now, come back, because Joe I was gonna start.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Spoiling in a more serious way.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Here we go. I don't want to do two out

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 3>of order, but Louie and let's stop get together at

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 3>the end after again a see a petrol which you'll

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 3>go back when talk about Arman because I'm obsessed with

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>this character. But they get this moment where we're start

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>after betraying Louis and literally being a key figure in

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>the reason Claudia die, he is like when she goes

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 3>she looked at me like a child looks at a parent.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 3>But I was never her father because he knew she

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 3>wasn't gonna last, and because of that, he separated himself.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 3>And it that moment for me, turns everything around it.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I started the podcast, I was saying, you think Louis

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 3>is a victim the whole time. Louis is so cognizant

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 3>of who he is. He knows who he is, but

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't know what he wants, and so he makes

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of really terrible decisions. He chooses to hurt

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Armand's a controlling, total douche, but he hurts Armand in

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 3>a way that is completely unforgivable. I would never forgive

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 3>anyone if they spoke to me the way Louis speaks

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 3>to Armand in that hotel room, I would never the

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 3>way he manipulates Lestat into creating something for him. El

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Soo's like, you will regret this, Like we should not

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 3>turn this person. This is a bad idea, and he's like, please,

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I can't kill anymore. I need her to live.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>They're both her parents. Louis held on too tight and

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>didn't let her become her own person. Lestat turned his

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>so you wouldn't have to watch her fade. They both

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>wanted it being destroyed by this decision, But I love

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it so much more than like the book. Ending is

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 3>so interesting in Interview with the Vampire when it ends,

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 3>And again, the timeline's tricky because both the movie and

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>the television series do this interesting thing where they acknowledge

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>the book as being the original interview and then use

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 3>the timeframe they're placed in as a reflection of that interview.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 3>And so you understand that you're never quite sure if

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>you're getting the whole truth. You're not sure after you

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 3>read the novel. Is that the truth? You're not sure

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 3>if after you watch the movie, and you're not sure

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 3>after you watch the TV series? At which point am

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 3>I learning the absolute truth of who these characters are?

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 3>And it makes it so interesting because Louis has woven

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 3>such a web of all of these people hurt me

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>when really you are in a relationship making equally bad

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 3>decisions and buying trying to hurt these people too, actively

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 3>trying to hurt folks, to the point that the very

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>last decision Louis makes is Louis has to kick Ourmond

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 3>out again. We'll go back to our mind because I'm

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 3>really in your thoughts on him. He cans harmaud out

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>of his place. He's like, listen, if you hurt my

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 3>journalist's buddy, who I mean? Truly, the fact that we

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 3>get like in Anthony Bourdaine esque character interviewing Vampirestion is

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 3>amazing peak deliciousness. I wish Anthony were alive to comment,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>because I really think he was like, oh yeah, I'll

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 3>be the Anthony Bardane of the series. I have no

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 3>problem doing it. Louis last act is to challenge literally

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 3>every vampire that can within hearing distance, which from what

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>we know of his powers, could be globally, to say, listen,

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>my apartment is open. If you're mad about how I

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 3>treated my manipulative ex boyfriend, you can come see me

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 3>about it. I don't sleep, I have nothing to do.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 3>My windows. You get zapped by the sun, that's fine.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Windows can handle that. You don't get DApp by the sun. Great,

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Come in the daytime. I'll be awake. Come fight me.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 3>This is a man who needs the friction. He needs that.

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 3>He does not know how to exist if he's not

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 3>against someone. And I think that's a very fascinating because

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>in the end of the book he leaves. He's so healed.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Stefs like, are you coming back? He's like, yeah, no,

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I why would I ever come back to you. I'm healed,

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I've done my cry. He's like, this stupid idiot asked

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 3>me if I can make him a vampire. He's not listening.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't understand why I told the story here. Everything

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 3>is different. It's it's so, can I tell you one

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 3>more moment? One more Louis move. They're in the museum,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 3>him and Armand they're in the museum. This is Armand

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 3>has just asked him basically said I love you. Are

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>we in a relationship? And what He's like, I mean

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 3>it's a situationship and that's good. Why do you want

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 3>to try Why do you try to push this? Because again,

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Louie understands, I've met somebody that could potentially be a

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 3>soul me is it could put you the love of

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 3>my life. But we are not on the same page.

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 3>I like you, your fun, we have a good time together.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 3>It's not the same as what I had before. I

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>can't commit to you. In the second, armand Who, it's

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 3>also again very queer show also with stats.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Ex, everybody's staying everybody.

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so he hasn't left anyone since say, he hasn't

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 3>even said the word. So louis the first person he's

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>allowing himself to be romantically interested in. And our mom's

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 3>not happy with this answer. So he says, let me,

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll take you on a date. Take youant date, let

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>me show you around and we'll see what's going on.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 3>So he takes him to this museum where he sees

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 3>an old painting of the guy that turned him, and

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 3>he starts telling him this story, and somewhere in there

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 3>he's like, Louis, you have to trust me. I'm not Lestatte.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Throughout the series, lestatt has been popping up in Louise's

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 3>head as I mean.

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it almost like a kind of ghoul? Like a yeah?

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Is it a ghost? Is it a delusion? Is it

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 3>a psychic connection? Because they got like slight, Yes, we

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know what. We really don't know what the lie

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>and the show even questions him and Louis like, oh

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>he was there, and at the same time together in

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 3>response to I'm not withstat they turned to armand and

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 3>simultaneously okay, oh, like this bitch. The way he's like

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>that okay is so it hit me, probably because it's

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 3>something I would say, which is literally, I'm aware entirely

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that you're not with Stop. The fact that you think

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I would be confused about that is insane? Uh, who

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 3>are you? And I just I loved watching this relationship,

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>but we all like I just, I'm obsessedately in with Stop,

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 3>like I need sixteen more seasons. I cannot wait to

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 3>see season three. But I'm also obsessed with armand and

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I need to know your thoughts right O. See, I'm

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>on such an interesting character. He's ancient. He himself was

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 3>a slave too, which is something we don't the show

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>doesn't really investigate, but I think the actors do in

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>their performance this idea of we were both once owned

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>by other people, we were both loved and thrown out.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And also like the way that then, like when somebody

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>makes you as a vampire, like are they your owner?

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Like do they have this hold over you?

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 5>That?

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's definitely very deep. I thought they did

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a great job with Armand.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it's it was way more ex banded than

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I expected it to be based on what I kind

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>of know of that, which is really based on like

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the movie and like certain books I've read. But I

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 2>just thought they did a really great job creating this

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of trio. I also love that kind.

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Of in the end, Armand and Daniel.

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like have this there, like well fine, then

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 2>like you don't love us, like that will be us,

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>We'll be will be us? And and Daniel gets to

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>put out his book and you kind of then you

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>don't really know what version we've been watching, because we know.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Armand messes with people's minds, so what does the book

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>really say, you know?

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And also I do love the kind of Louis challenging

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone to come and get him, because it really reminded

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 2>me of in Queen of the Damn Do you know,

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Lestat essentially creates these songs that reveal vampire secrets to

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>draw vampires to him because he's so lonely. So I

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>thought it was very interesting to see those two things

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of coming together. Okay, Joelle, Yeah, before we go,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>what are you most excited to see in season three?

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 3>What kind of rock star is the stock couldn't be

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 3>because in the book, it's the nineties, it's MTV. It's

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>like leather and lace, very sort of unny Kravits, like

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 3>a seventies inspired esque vibe. It's not super present right

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 3>now in our current society, and there's a social media

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 3>angle that I think if you don't tackle, you're missing

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.439
<v Speaker 3>out on. And we're also it's a little nerve racking

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>for me because we're becoming more modern in a way

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 3>that I think a lot of the a lot of

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 3>the people involved in the creation of the show are

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 3>older white men. I don't think that's a disc They've

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>handled a lot of the racism queer like they've handled

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 3>everything very well so far, but it's also been extremely

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 3>We're going back in time. It's dated. You haven't had

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>to be connected to the youth of today, which is

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 3>a totally different thing, and so I'm interested to see

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 3>how to navigate that.

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my dream is that they just use the music

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 2>from Queena the Dad, where he's like a new metal guy,

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 2>and it has like it honestly has like one of

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>the most beloved incredible soundtracks of all time now because

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>of TikTok, because of the cyclical nature of music and fashion,

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 2>that ends up being quite current now.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Like kids in the street in La are dressed in

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>jinco jeans with tiny.

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.479
<v Speaker 3>Lace shows on TikTok is that.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>The good thing is we can hopefully pray that, you know,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 2>that could still be something that takes place at l

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>like it could still be in the eighties.

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>It could be. I mean, who knows, maybe it's going

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to be in the future. I don't know.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to see it, but I hope that every

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 2>episode has at least one song, because I feel like

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 2>you have to commit to the musical of it all,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and this has been such a great queer show that

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I pray that they commit and do musical stuff.

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, more or lesbians. We snuck two in here. You

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 3>get a lot of time together. I know we're wrapping up,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.800
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, Eric goes degree asad Zaman who played armand

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 3>did a sad job, and then we had a replacement

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Bailey Bass was the original.

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>And she couldn't do it, I think because of scheduling.

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 3>Scheduling which is always just such drama. So Deliney hails,

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 3>which I love how they opened the series with the

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 3>role of Claudia would not be played by Delina Hills

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 3>as like, oh, you were getting into our theater bag.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate it.

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought that Yeah, it was really and it was

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>nice to kind of let the audience know and not

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>try and sneak it in with.

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>That idea of like you was, yeah, we know that

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that that's not the case.

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally, totally. It honors both what the first actress

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>did and what and second actress. She killed it. The

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't like windows when they're closed. Performance where she's

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.879
<v Speaker 3>just distraught to be playing a little girl is so good.

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 3>But I also think we have to finally shout out

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Ben Daniels. He played Santiago is such an evil little

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>prick like such I wrote in the notes we got

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 3>to talk about his tiny penis. I really like this reveal.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Santiago plays up being like a great star. He keeps

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 3>an old newspaper around of the greatest to ever perform Hamlet.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 3>And you know, but he's was turned late in later

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>in life, so he's maybe what like late forties, early

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>fifties somewhere in there. So that means all of the

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>young heart throb rolls no longer available to him, all

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 3>the old wis end rolls a little bit out of

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 3>his reach. It's a weird place to be paused as

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 3>now nowadays you could just like, just go to film,

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 3>you'll be fine. But at this time it really stunts

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 3>his ability to do what he loves in a meaningful way.

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 3>And then on top of that, he needs to be

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the center of attention. He's got all these groupies. But

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 3>we get to learn through Louis's very cool trick of

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 3>probing your mind for the worst memories of your life.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 3>He was like, hey, remember the time that girl made

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>front of your small penis and told everybody about it?

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Is that why you're like this? And then you behead Santiago.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 3>It is a great fight.

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>The Santiago also has one of the most evil speeches

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>where he talks about like the things he did to

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Claudia that she was dead and Claudia's ash that's really

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>what inspires it.

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.439
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was very I mean, as you can tell,

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 2>this is a deep show that we could probably have

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>a whole season just talking about.

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 1>But Joelle, I'm so sure joined us like me wonderful show.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Just rail about my obsession with this series. I know

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 3>it was a little chaotic, guys, the show's a little chaotic,

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 3>but in like the most delightful ways. And if you

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>loved it, I hope you reach out to us and

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 3>tell us about why you loved it and what books

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 3>we should be reading next and all that, and that

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>concludes our recap. Guys, stick around well status here. I

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 3>don't want to put too much pressure on us or you,

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 3>but he's here and we're going to talk to Sam Reed,

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 3>so stick.

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Around, Okay, here we go.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Our guest today is Sam Reid. I first encountered Sam

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 3>in the mini series The Hatfields and the McCoy's and

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Want You, co starred with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 3>You may have sat on the edge of your seat

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 3>when he was the Earl of s six doing his

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>bid for the Throne and anonymous listen. I was there

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 3>in twenty eleven. I was there, Okay, so later maybe

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe Sam cili your heart and bell when he's playing

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:24.959
<v Speaker 3>John Davin. Here, he's all mine.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Madic here to x.

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Ray to discuss his latest turn as a vampire less

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Statalem Corton and Rice in AMC's Interview with a Vampire Sam.

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 5>Welcome, Hello, Thanks for having me.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you are. We're so happy that you're here.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 2>We're both huge fans of the show, so we're just

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>really excited to chat to you.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 1>So thanks for taking the time.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 2>We are like a TV show with a comic book edge,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>so we ask people a lot like what's your origin story?

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes we ask about comics, sometimes we ask about acting,

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>but in this case, we want to know what's your

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>vampire chronicle's origin the story? When did you fall in

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 2>love with the books?

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 5>Uh? Well, they shot Queen of the Damn in Inn

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 5>in Melbourne, and as a kid, I was always kind

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 5>of hyper aware of all the big movies that were

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 5>coming over and shooting in Australia because I wanted to

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 5>be an actor and kind of was just you know,

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 5>I was a big Empire magazine reader and all that

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff. And yeah, so I loved vampires. It

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 5>was really into Dracula Bromstocker's Dracula the movie, particularly as

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 5>a kid, so I was into I was into vampires.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 5>It was my kind of Halloween costume. I go to costume.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I read the books in anticipation of the

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 5>film coming to Australia, which sounds incredibly geeky, but you

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 5>know that's what.

0:44:53.480 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I love it here people.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, no, you know, it's just a hyper focused

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 5>kid who's just really into into into filmmaking and theater,

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, and you know, loved it. I don't think

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 5>I got past the first three and I think it

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 5>was kind of a big ask, the first of the books.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.360
<v Speaker 5>But I watched the movie and yeah, and I think

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, at that point, you know, I loved the books,

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 5>but I left it there, you know, like you know,

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 5>I must have been like fourteen, maybe I think fourteen

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 5>or something like that. Yeah, so you know, I wasn't

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 5>going to get a role in Queen of the Damned,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 5>even though even though I was really excited to watch

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 5>it when I when it did come out. Maybe maybe

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 5>I was younger because they usually see those things like

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 5>a year before they come out. Yes, but then you know,

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 5>like it's they stayed with me. They were very kind

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 5>of like present those books. But it was really I

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 5>think when I was sort of when I heard they

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 5>were going to make it into a TV series, I thought, oh, well,

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 5>I love to do that. That would be amazing, you know.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 5>And then when the script came through from Rolling well,

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 5>when the audition came through and I read the script

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Rollin's interpretation of it, I went back and read that

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 5>first book again during that audition period, and then the

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 5>closer I got, the further I got, and I just,

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, like dove so heavily into those books before

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 5>I had been cast, you know, throughout that process, because

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 5>it's quite a long audition process. Even though I only

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 5>did probably like to two tapes and then chemistry reads,

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 5>it was stretched out over a long period of time

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.359
<v Speaker 5>and a series of zone meetings and stuff like that,

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 5>so I had time, and I mean I read like

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 5>like that was all I was doing. Because also, you know,

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 5>as you're kind of like getting getting closer to kind

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 5>of accepting and getting a role like this, you kind

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 5>of have to really know what you're in for. Yeah,

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 5>So you know, now I've read them all a couple

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 5>of times and continue to read. I would love to

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 5>read something else right now. I'm I'm back at the

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 5>end of Queen of the Damn.

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. Though I just started rereading the

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 3>reading the books. I didn't really have a I like

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 3>the movie a lot as a kid. We're both obsessed

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 3>with Queen of the Damn.

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was very influential.

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely hugely a stand and just really obsessed with

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 3>that movie. And it's been an interesting to go back

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 3>and sort of read and see like what's evolved. I'm

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 3>just did a secondary read of The Vampire lest At

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 3>and I was really intrigued. That's sort of the book

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 3>where we're at in this series now moving into the

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 3>new season. There's so many great characters in that book,

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'm wondering, is there someone in there, whether it's

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Magnus or that's Mom, or is there someone you're excited

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 3>just as a fan of the books and the overall series.

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely Gabrielle. I'm really excited to see Gabrielle, and

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 5>all the conversations I've had about how that character is

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 5>going to be explored is pretty exactly, so obviously don't

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 5>want to say too much, but yeah, like Gabrielle, I

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 5>think is an awesome character, and I think it gives

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot of context to the start as well, so

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, and I think that, you know, I remember

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 5>years ago when I read that book for the first time,

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 5>being really struck by the first scene that he kind

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 5>of has with his mom quite early on in the books,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 5>and it's after he's killed the wolves and they're kind

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 5>of there's this like silent and you know, you know

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.319
<v Speaker 5>that kind of evocketed feeling when you get when you're

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 5>reading that you can't quite sure, you can't quite explain

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 5>what it is, but it's immediately transporting, and I never

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 5>forget that. Like, he has this scene with his mother

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 5>where they're kind of silently sitting he's like, you know,

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 5>catatonic after killing eight wolves with a flail and they'll

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 5>take out of you. Yeah, and then he's and then

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.399
<v Speaker 5>they're just sort of sitting silently by the fire, and

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 5>there's this like intensely uncomfortable sexual energy that is emanating

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 5>from the pages that I did not fully grasp, but

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 5>I remember as a kid like like look like thigki,

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 5>and that feeling happened again. I think I remember reading it,

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 5>you know, more more recently for the first time again,

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, it was there, that thing was there,

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 5>and I guess that's that that thing that people talk

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 5>about lot with subtexts with these books, is there is like,

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, incredible subtext. There's also text, but there's also

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 5>like there's also intense intense intensity of feeling. And then

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 5>she'll kind of like just drop a bomb and just

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 5>say like flat out what actually happened, you know, So

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 5>she's She's very extreme in that way, which I really

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 5>appreciate it. So yeah, yeah, that was my longitted way.

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Of saying no, no, no, I love it. It was a

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect answer. Also, like I love that you brought.

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>That up, because I actually feel like that's something that

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the finale of season two really translated, because we'd had

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 2>this kind of alleged text of the armand relationship, but

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 2>then you get this huge kind of barm of truth

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>about who was really behind it and what we kind

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of really learned season two is a lot of the

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Star in the corner of Louis's minds and this kind

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:31.919
<v Speaker 2>of different version of Las Start.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>What was it like.

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>To then shoot those scenes with Jacob where it is

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 2>this reunion, this truth, this kind of apology, this beginning,

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 2>this end. It's such a huge moment and the episode's

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 2>so fantastic. What was it like for you as an

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 2>actor to get to be real the Start again in

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:53.959
<v Speaker 2>those moments.

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 5>It's funny how these bits of language kind of pop up,

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 5>like with this Real Start language that it's kind of appeared.

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't necessarily think I thought of it like that.

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean I knew that I knew that there was

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 5>a level that you know, I could just be less,

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, because because when you're playing kind of like

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 5>the villain of your ex story, knowing that but also

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 5>knowing that that they love them. You know, there's a

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 5>deep love between Louis Endless Start. So it's very complex

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of but it allowed me to be very extreme.

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.280
<v Speaker 5>And also I knew I knew, and I know which

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 5>scenes you know, and it's up to rollin in the

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 5>end of the day, and I know which ones he

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 5>was thinking. But you know in season one what scenes

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 5>are real and what they're not, what not you know

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 5>and what and so there are some things we could

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 5>do really extreme stuff. So when you approach a scene

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 5>like this, it's like, Okay, we we're now out of

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 5>any kind of character's POV. We're just in the real

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 5>world of the show. Now you know, what do you do?

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 5>But I guess a scene like that is it's more

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:04.359
<v Speaker 5>about the connection between Louis and le Start. And and

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 5>it was a really crazy day, like it was really rushed,

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 5>which is kind of often the way it is with television,

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 5>but that heaps going on. There's a lot of special effects,

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 5>as per usual in our show, so we have like

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, a lot of effects which make things quite complicated.

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 5>It was like guys with leaf blowers.

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>In the just like setting people on fire.

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that and that takes a really long time,

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 5>like to get that right because they've got rigs that

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 5>has to be renewed, because it's all done practically, which

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 5>is one thing that I do love about this show,

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 5>which kind of harkens back to Copola's Racula, which is

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 5>like a lot of the effects. We don't do it

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 5>so much with the sets, but the sets are really

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 5>built a lot of the effects. The effects are real,

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 5>so it takes a time. It takes a little time

0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 5>to reset. But yeah, it was, it was, it was.

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 5>It was a wonderful thing to do. And you know,

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 5>Jacob and I just kind of was like, fuck it,

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 5>let's go. That's just you know energy.

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 2>right back.

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating to hear you guys talk about one another.

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 3>There's clearly such like an artistic love between you guys

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>just as creators that I find really sweet. And also,

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:36.080
<v Speaker 3>like you know, I'm outside of being a host, I'm

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 3>also a producer. It's my job to put teams of

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>people together and try to create you know, beautiful stuff.

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 3>And I think when you find a connection between two

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:48.439
<v Speaker 3>people I work with Zach Braf and Donald Faison who

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:51.240
<v Speaker 3>met on Scrubs and then became like lifelong best friends,

0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 3>And like, I find it so interesting the way certain

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 3>shows can be cast that create sort of these lifelong

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 3>connections that are so much more than just the show.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, for you, it's just a creator, and like,

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 3>have you worked with a ton of like very brilliant actors.

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 3>But I imagine just because of the way the show is

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 3>set up, there's a special you know, it's different doing

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 3>a show, co leading a show with somebody.

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, I think you also just like it's

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 5>just a scenario that is incredibly fortunate. We're just very

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 5>lucky that we get we get on so well. I

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 5>don't think it was I don't know if Roland had

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 5>masterminded it. I have to give him if he did.

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 5>But we never met in person until we turned up,

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, to start shooting. We did everything I didn't,

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, I didn't meet anybody. Nobody saw me until

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.399
<v Speaker 5>I turned up to start shooting. So everything had been

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 5>done on zoom and it was you know, during lockdowns

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 5>in Australia, so like it was just this bizarre time. Yeah,

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 5>but you know, just Jacob and I we're very similar.

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 5>We just get on really well. We have very I

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 5>guess we're different actors, but we're also like I would

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 5>say we're very similar actors in terms of we're not

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.839
<v Speaker 5>like talking about too much, overthinking about it too much.

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 5>We're like to have it sort of flexible to kind

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 5>of you mess around and then we just drop it

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 5>like it just goes I think, you know, I think

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 5>we just do. But also like then we just drop it,

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 5>like then the scenes over and we drop it and

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 5>we just chat chat about something else random or what's

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 5>funny in the room or And you know, you need

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 5>that on a show like this because it's it's a

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 5>very big, silly show that takes itself very seriously and

0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 5>it can suck you right in into this bizarre kind

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 5>of like vortex, and you you do need to be

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 5>able to step out of it and laugh about it,

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 5>and you know, and we do, and you know, it's

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 5>really valued, you know, and we've got a lot of

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 5>trust between the two of us. There's just so much

0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.800
<v Speaker 5>us and you know, just like it's that is so

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 5>so important, it.

0:56:00.880 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Really is, and something like as we leave this, you

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 2>know you kind of talked about your connection to Queen

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Damned.

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 1>We both love it.

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It was I saw it with my friends at like

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the cinema and I think it was in like Islington

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 2>or somewhere, and we got on the bus and we

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>all went and saw it and we end up seeing

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like five times, and I still love the soundtrack. How

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 2>does it feel now to not just be playing Listar

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and have played him for two years, but as that

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 2>kid who was waiting for that movie to be filmed

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in Australia and who wanted was reading every article about it,

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>how does it feel to now be about to embark

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>on doing your take on it and bringing that aspect

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:39.919
<v Speaker 2>of Lista to life.

0:56:39.920 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 3>What's that like?

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 5>God? Look, I want to preface by saying, I don't

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 5>know if I was necessarily like, you know, it was

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 5>Queen of the Damn that kind of got me into it.

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 5>But I think I probably visually prefer the interview with

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 5>the Vampire movie and.

0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 1>What's gonna judge you? It's it's you know, it's like

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a cult movie classic.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, obviously interview with the Vampire is I must

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:07.799
<v Speaker 2>say the Queen of.

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 5>The Damn has that the best line, I think, and

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:11.879
<v Speaker 5>I and I have kind of like, you know, into

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 5>it role and could we please just do a reference

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 5>to that when when I think it's between Jesse Reeves

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 5>and the start and he's like, I think she goes

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:22.959
<v Speaker 5>boo and he goes boo back.

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Ye.

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 5>No, just credit to the screenwritters with that film. But

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, what an extraordinary canelievable. Yeah, but to

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 5>your question, it's terrifying really. I mean it's like, you know,

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 5>and we have sort of started little pieces of it,

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 5>and it's you know, with a wildly ambitious team and

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 5>people who make this show and and and you know,

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Daniel Hart is a genius. He does the music, and

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, seeing some of the stuff that's coming out

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 5>is sort of like amazing. And I'm really really excited

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 5>and terrified to do it. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's wild.

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 5>It's a totally wild thing to do.

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Especially, I feel like after the first two seasons of

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 2>this show, I feel like, well, like you said, it's

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a silly show that takes herself very seriously.

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel like season three, for people who don't know

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 1>what it's going to be about. Could be a shoka.

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think, but I think, yeah, it is

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 5>a shakraa But it's the same kind of the experience

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 5>if you get when you read the books, when you

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 5>go from the first second book, you're like, well, and

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 5>I think it should feel like that. It should sort

0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 5>of feel like that, because that's kind of like the

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.960
<v Speaker 5>true essence of that experience of what she intended. I

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 5>know that she kind of wanted to do a different

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 5>order of the books in her in her series, but

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 5>I actually think that this is a is a really

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 5>great way. And also we have a wonderful Louis now,

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, and and he's been really which kind of

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 5>allows us to keep that character going forward in the series,

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:09.200
<v Speaker 5>which I think is which is fantastic. Yeah, it's it's

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 5>wild wild, it's a wild thing.

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 3>We've heard from the music, like everything from like We're

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 3>going to try to out do Rocky Horror Picture Show

0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and Headwig and Angry and the music from the whole

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 3>series has been lovely. How are you feeling is like,

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.600
<v Speaker 3>are you tackling vocals? Are you excited about stepping into

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:30.920
<v Speaker 3>that aspect of performance for this out.

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 5>I feel like when Roland gave that reference, I think

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 5>he was more talking about the genre of film than

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 5>he was necessarily speaking about the actual sound of music,

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:43.960
<v Speaker 5>not the sound of the music, not the musical Yeah,

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 5>I think there are elements. I think there are elements

0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 5>that probably will be musical to it. Yes, we're definitely

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 5>getting into a lot of a lot of singing. And

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's really that's that is a really fun

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 5>thing to do. It's a really fun you know, I've

0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 5>done musical before, and but in terms of like playing

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 5>at an actor, like singing in a character is a

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:06.920
<v Speaker 5>really fun challenge. And to find the voice of the

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.000
<v Speaker 5>character when they sing, and what they choose to be

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:12.440
<v Speaker 5>their creative output, you know, and what is the start

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.040
<v Speaker 5>making in twenty twenty six. I think that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's a kind of like where does he

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<v Speaker 5>sit there? And yeah, how does he deal with you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Taylor Swift, I don't know, you know, I just think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really that's his version of the aerostore. We're going

1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to find out, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, it's hard to know. I mean, he might

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.440
<v Speaker 5>love it. I think it's you know, I just I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's a kind of interesting space, you know, to

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<v Speaker 5>to explore. And also I think it's interesting, like what

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:48.560
<v Speaker 5>happens if starts not as popular as Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know the answer to any of these questions, but I

1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:53.720
<v Speaker 5>just think it's I think it's interesting. Yeah, particularly it's

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<v Speaker 5>this whole, you know, because you know, this whole sort

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 5>of like coming out story as a vampire. Here we

1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 5>are on the world stage as real beings, and in

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:04.520
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty six there's so much misinformation. It's so much

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 5>or twenty twenty six and know what I'm saying twenty

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 5>twenty four today, But yeah, like what is you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. It's like, you know, nobody we really like.

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:16.960
<v Speaker 5>The alien stuff just reasonably happened, you know, where all

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:20.360
<v Speaker 5>these unclassified documentation came out sort of so am I

1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:24.920
<v Speaker 5>confirming that there is extraterrestrial life? And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like they kind of got washed under the

1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 5>carp and I'm not even sure if it's true. I

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<v Speaker 5>just sort of what happened, and we were like front

1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:34.400
<v Speaker 5>pages all day of the newspapers aliens are real, and

1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 5>then we've kind of forgotten about it and now we're

1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of like looking at something else. So I think

1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 5>that's the life the world in which we're living in.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is a very interesting space for vampires

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<v Speaker 5>to exist in that place, because there'll be some people

1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:50.040
<v Speaker 5>who are really obsessed with them and believe that it's real,

1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:53.280
<v Speaker 5>and there be other people who don't give to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>flying out and want.

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<v Speaker 1>To debunk it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well so, I mean so the kind of rock star

1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:03.800
<v Speaker 2>nature of the star in that next series, Lista is

1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 2>already like a pop culture rock star, Like he has

1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:08.120
<v Speaker 2>a very feral fandom.

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I will say feral, as I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of it. It's fair. It's a fair, so I

1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:14.800
<v Speaker 3>would say it's fer, it's fair. We're getting a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of great like villain moments at the moment, with

1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:24.280
<v Speaker 2>many Jacinto playing climate in uh you know the Recircle series,

1:02:24.320 --> 1:02:28.280
<v Speaker 2>the Acolyte with his beautiful arms and and his outrageous cloaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, he got very into the world of kind of

1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:31.760
<v Speaker 1>list that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe he did Kimer fanfic and looking at

1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:38.680
<v Speaker 2>you three and stuff like that. Have you ever ventured

1:02:39.240 --> 1:02:44.680
<v Speaker 2>into that space of the into the fan fic kind

1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of lestat like space.

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<v Speaker 5>So when we started, very like I was in and

1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:54.080
<v Speaker 5>I was looking like I, you know, because I felt

1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:56.400
<v Speaker 5>like it was really important for me to get an

1:02:56.440 --> 1:03:00.280
<v Speaker 5>idea about what everyone else had in their mind, you know,

1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.720
<v Speaker 5>like I have my own idea of the character, and

1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.880
<v Speaker 5>then you know Roland's idea of the character. And then

1:03:05.920 --> 1:03:08.680
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what, what does everybody see? Like? This

1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:12.680
<v Speaker 5>character is? Some things I totally agreed with and totally

1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 5>found fascinating and wanted to I wanted to find space

1:03:17.120 --> 1:03:19.240
<v Speaker 5>to incorporate that. Other times I was like not not,

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<v Speaker 5>not totally sure where that came from the.

1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:23.400
<v Speaker 3>World of A three.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say that very that's very relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're like, Wow, why isn't this cannon?

1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.600
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes you're like, I'm so sad I read that,

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<v Speaker 2>like why did I?

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<v Speaker 5>But I will say I didn't. I did not know.

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<v Speaker 5>I have not. I didn't go into AO three like

1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:41.560
<v Speaker 5>I know AO three exists because I do another show

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<v Speaker 5>where the show runner for that show was finding all

1:03:45.600 --> 1:03:48.920
<v Speaker 5>this erotic fan fiction that existed and he would be

1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:51.479
<v Speaker 5>telling me about it, and I just was like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think this is valuable for me to to see.

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<v Speaker 5>What I will say is I did recently listen to

1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:01.120
<v Speaker 5>a podcast I can't remember that the vampire inside it,

1:04:01.160 --> 1:04:05.760
<v Speaker 5>and they talk about our show, and they're quite quite lovely.

1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:08.840
<v Speaker 5>And one person who I had met, she had come

1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:10.640
<v Speaker 5>to set. I don't know her real name, but she

1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:13.080
<v Speaker 5>told me her name was Inky Inky Blots. It was

1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:16.920
<v Speaker 5>her name, And she read on that podcast a really

1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:22.439
<v Speaker 5>fascinating piece of fan fiction, which was this beautiful kind

1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:25.480
<v Speaker 5>of story that went into the kind of psychology between

1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:28.440
<v Speaker 5>the Start and Magnus during that transformation, which I was

1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:30.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of blown away by. Yeah, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>like all of the erotic stuff. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>it's really necessary. Like I know, I'm making a sexy

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<v Speaker 5>show and.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys have in the text it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched the shot.

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<v Speaker 5>That layer of bubbling sunth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of fanfic comes from a place where

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<v Speaker 2>that representation wasn't there. So I totally understand how in

1:04:55.920 --> 1:05:00.120
<v Speaker 2>a show where it's absolutely text, it feels less of

1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:01.800
<v Speaker 2>a necessity to explore it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but nowadays I really stay away from the internet.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of you know, I made some like pretty

1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:11.640
<v Speaker 5>big errors, like you know, last season with having a

1:05:11.680 --> 1:05:14.920
<v Speaker 5>look at what was going on, and actually now have

1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:19.160
<v Speaker 5>like blocks on the phone and have no, no, zero

1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:21.520
<v Speaker 5>social media accounts whatsoever. And I also have a time

1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:26.280
<v Speaker 5>on Google, so I can't even for an hour a day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. You've got to protect yourself, like, yeah, truly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do have a lot have a time around

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<v Speaker 3>my Instagram for the same reason.

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<v Speaker 5>You also have to be careful because I have to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to do my job. I have to be

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<v Speaker 5>able to turn up to work and do it and

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<v Speaker 5>not have some kind of like, you know, complete crisis

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, somebody hates me out there, which you

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<v Speaker 5>know that's kind of that's sort of part of the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we've we've been there. Yeah, never read the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>There is not a safe space. See's what I've interviewing

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<v Speaker 3>with The Vampire is coming to Netflix toward the end

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<v Speaker 3>of August. We've seen a lot of shows head that

1:06:07.360 --> 1:06:10.800
<v Speaker 3>way and really find a much wider audience. I'm thinking

1:06:10.920 --> 1:06:13.760
<v Speaker 3>of Penn Badly as Joe and you like that show

1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:17.200
<v Speaker 3>really hit when it moved from Lifetime to Netflix. Are

1:06:17.240 --> 1:06:20.560
<v Speaker 3>you feeling ready for this new surge of interest in

1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:22.440
<v Speaker 3>audience coming to the series?

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<v Speaker 5>Not really, there was something there was something so wonderful

1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:33.000
<v Speaker 5>about being a part of this like cult show which

1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:36.880
<v Speaker 5>I think really really kind of gives us this wonderful

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<v Speaker 5>feeling on set that we feel like, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 5>somehow AMC blessed them have given us so much money

1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:46.840
<v Speaker 5>to make this kind of like totally culture ye like

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<v Speaker 5>n that feels very kind of like, you know, specific

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<v Speaker 5>to people like, you know, you know, I would watch

1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:55.320
<v Speaker 5>the show. I would love this show. And I think

1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.840
<v Speaker 5>that's one thing. You know, it's really important as an

1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:00.480
<v Speaker 5>actor when you're like, you know, going after material, like

1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:02.120
<v Speaker 5>when you read the script the first time, you're like,

1:07:02.120 --> 1:07:04.240
<v Speaker 5>would you watch this? Is there something you care about?

1:07:04.320 --> 1:07:06.280
<v Speaker 5>Does this having a message that it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 5>beyond what this could be? And I feel this really

1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:12.800
<v Speaker 5>really does And I love that feeling. I love that

1:07:12.920 --> 1:07:16.880
<v Speaker 5>quiet secret feeling. What happens when it's on Netflix, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Fingers fingers crossed that it just finds all the other

1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:26.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird o people I'm weirdose who haven't had

1:07:26.520 --> 1:07:27.160
<v Speaker 2>the chance.

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<v Speaker 1>To discover it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, that would be wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's the that's the most likely version

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<v Speaker 2>is all the kids who didn't have AMC Plus or

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<v Speaker 2>they are amazing queer creatives who don't really stream a lot,

1:07:39.200 --> 1:07:41.600
<v Speaker 2>but their parents have Netflix, They're going to be able

1:07:41.680 --> 1:07:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to discover this show and go oh my god, like yes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, as we as we talk about like, I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of the things people kind of have really

1:07:49.360 --> 1:07:52.200
<v Speaker 3>appreciated about the show is like the technical aspects, which

1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:55.080
<v Speaker 3>is not something people always appreciate, but there have been

1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:59.320
<v Speaker 3>a ton of Anne Riceman dressing up as vampires from

1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:01.440
<v Speaker 3>different eras for a long time, and the costuming in

1:08:01.480 --> 1:08:04.040
<v Speaker 3>the show is through the roof. It's so good. And

1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:06.040
<v Speaker 3>is someone who used to dress up as a vampire

1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:08.600
<v Speaker 3>as a kid. I was wondering is there an outfit

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<v Speaker 3>looks for the stat that you were like, it is bomb,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is a fit.

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<v Speaker 5>I would tell you that every time I'm in a

1:08:15.760 --> 1:08:18.040
<v Speaker 5>costume fitting, like we're like are we is this a

1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.840
<v Speaker 5>Halloween costume? You know, like it's it is? It is?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah for us, I'm always like looking, is this a

1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Halloween costume? Like would you get dressed up as this?

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<v Speaker 5>Or you try and find the Halloween costume? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so yeah, I think from this season we definitely try

1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:37.759
<v Speaker 5>to return to that motif of that of that dressing

1:08:37.800 --> 1:08:40.519
<v Speaker 5>gown that he wore in season one, so when you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of return to him in episode eight, like he

1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:45.960
<v Speaker 5>is wearing the same dressing gown, but it's like totally

1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:50.080
<v Speaker 5>distressed and destroyed. I think what I loved about that

1:08:50.120 --> 1:08:52.600
<v Speaker 5>costume particularly, you know, I mean, I had a I

1:08:52.640 --> 1:08:55.640
<v Speaker 5>always have lots of great costumes, but I love it

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<v Speaker 5>what that costume particularly is that if you actually look

1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:00.960
<v Speaker 5>underneath what I'm wearing underneath and wearing a very kind

1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:05.599
<v Speaker 5>of sort of high fashiony tank top, and I don't

1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:07.200
<v Speaker 5>know if you ever see the pants, but I'm wearing

1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:10.040
<v Speaker 5>like I can't remember what designer brand pants they are,

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<v Speaker 5>and like a pair of like sort of Chelsea boots,

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<v Speaker 5>Swayed Chelsea boots. I also have. I also have like

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<v Speaker 5>obscenely expensive speakers, which I can't remember the brand, but

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<v Speaker 5>I know that they're some some some form of product placement,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's really really expensive speakers in there, and iPad

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<v Speaker 5>and Siri, so I think there's a kind of but

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<v Speaker 5>he's you know, he's in this like ratted.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was the iPad with the giant like fake

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<v Speaker 3>keyboard was grand like really mirroring.

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<v Speaker 5>In that set. There's also a smashed Grand piano, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's obviously like he's been playing it then got frustrated.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't really see the piano, but he smashed it

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<v Speaker 5>and then he carved carved the piano out of a

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<v Speaker 5>plank of wood. But I think, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of costume is a really fun one. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>just everything with blood, and to put as much of

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<v Speaker 5>blood on myself as possible, because that's a nice, cheap,

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<v Speaker 5>easy Christmas Christmas. That's my Christmas Halloween costume. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, get a white shirt, put a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of blood on it. That's always a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's really exting. Yeah, I mean, also, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna likely get to see some really fantastic cosplay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the most magical parts of the show

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<v Speaker 2>is getting to see how much it connects with fans.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Which costumes they choose to to recreate too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm excited. I actually got to meet someone recently

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<v Speaker 5>who I'm who I had met, but she was dressed

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<v Speaker 5>as the Start when I had first met her, so

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't recognize we've met before. She was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was dressed Start last time, in this sort of

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<v Speaker 5>big blonde wig, so it is always fun to see

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<v Speaker 5>it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much Sam for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us. Total joy, congrats on the show. We're so

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<v Speaker 2>excited for season three. Thank give her, and yeah, hope

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<v Speaker 2>to speak to.

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<v Speaker 1>You again soon and have a great day, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sumsion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 6>Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

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<v Speaker 6>producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer

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<v Speaker 6>Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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<v Speaker 2>and Heidi our discoord moderator.

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<v Speaker 3>Rosie. After we recorded this episode, we had to come

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<v Speaker 3>back after the credits because San Diego happened and Immortal Wit.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, here are two videos for you to

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<v Speaker 3>just dissolve into. One is the lyric video long Face,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the first single we get from a stat

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<v Speaker 3>aka Sam Reid, which is crazy and cause a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of controversy, which.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one is a video of like

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<v Speaker 3>Lestatt walking into an interview and Daniel's interviewing him. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a camera thing and you learn so much about

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<v Speaker 3>the direction they're going in, and so we were like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna we have we have to talk about what's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think maybe we should start with the interview video,

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<v Speaker 3>which I found really interesting. What did you think of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, So basically it's feeling, let's just be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>it's giving mockumentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if that's gonna be the framing this time, if.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have Daniel Eric Bagosian legend, who is clearly like,

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<v Speaker 2>do not write me off this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being here for LISTA.

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<v Speaker 4>No One that I love that for him, I'm certainly

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<v Speaker 4>not nobody wants to and uh so I think it

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be at least interspersed with Daniel interviewing

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<v Speaker 4>the start.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the attitude that Sam gives here. It's pure

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<v Speaker 2>rock stuff. It's unbelievable. They've managed to make it contemporary,

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<v Speaker 2>They've managed to make it vibrant, they've managed to make

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<v Speaker 2>it campy. I'm very excited we see Lestar at his

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<v Speaker 2>most lastat here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not like.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken down Missing Louis in a trash house in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>This man is disrespecting everybody. He's as sassing the staff,

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<v Speaker 2>he's treating people terribly, and he's just giving full rock star.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely Lista entering like his second hundred years, you

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<v Speaker 3>know the if the books, like early when he comes

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<v Speaker 3>to New Orleans, he's like just beyond baby vampire. He's

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<v Speaker 3>like entering his teenage vampire years. And they're like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to go out there and like live a life.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta go find your own progeny, like go live

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, that's kind of scary, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do it because i'mostat in like big kind of power.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he doesn't care, and it's really exciting. He's just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of over it. He's not trying to hide his

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<v Speaker 3>vampires at all, which is totally like a thing within

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<v Speaker 3>the music. But there's also if you look really closely

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<v Speaker 3>in the video, there's blood on his chest. The man

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<v Speaker 3>is not together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. So I loved the interview clip because

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<v Speaker 1>they felt like I watched it a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I just felt like it's so understood innately what

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<v Speaker 2>we needed from this season, which is rock Starlistat Who.

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<v Speaker 2>And this actually I think aligns really nicely with how

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<v Speaker 2>Louis ended season two where he kind of said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you bitches, come find me, like do what you will.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have the stat here essentially doing the same thing, saying, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a vampire and if you've got a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with me, come find me vampires and that is a

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<v Speaker 2>key part of Queen of the Damned. Yes, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I loved that the interview video gave that. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say I was not expecting them to

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<v Speaker 2>release a full song, okay, and it was divine.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the song. One last thing before we got

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<v Speaker 3>off the video, I I genuinely loved just the conclusion

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<v Speaker 3>of it. What makes the list that book so interesting

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<v Speaker 3>is he's not talking to you. It's like an interview, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's really more of a monologue directly to people. There's

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<v Speaker 3>not like a back and forth staying out of time.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was really intrigued by the way they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh, lastat it's just gonna talk directly to

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<v Speaker 3>you through this Lens. I hope we get a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more of that in the show, and I also like

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<v Speaker 3>to find a line, which is a line that Marius

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<v Speaker 3>gives him before he goes on his venture to New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, this is it's just feeding me

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<v Speaker 3>as somebody who's recently learned to love the books. The

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<v Speaker 3>song Okay, here we Go, I was We talked in

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<v Speaker 3>the interview a little about like we're not really sure

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<v Speaker 3>we heard how do we get an angry edge? And

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't really like, what are we going to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of the musical stylings of Lestat in this more

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<v Speaker 3>modern telling of interview with a Vampire. I love that

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<v Speaker 3>it's so pure rock. They were like, we're bringing in

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<v Speaker 3>all the guitars. It's yeah, like very sort of like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very like Queens of the Stone Age. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rock. Yes, from maybe I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say it's got influenced from like twenty years ago, but

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<v Speaker 2>that music is still kind of those bands are still

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<v Speaker 2>around today, and it does have this glam edge to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the song was so good. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know if they were gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>pull it off. But whoever's writing those songs bang off.

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<v Speaker 3>It totally feels like we're definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna get a cast album too. Yes, it really does.

1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're gonna get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I will say something that he does in the

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<v Speaker 2>books that I expect that we'll see here is he's

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<v Speaker 2>like put Anning Queen of the Damn the movie, my

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<v Speaker 2>beloved movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But like he puts like secret vampire messages and vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>Law into the songs. And this definitely feels like that.

1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:41.920
<v Speaker 2>And he does it specifically to piss off the Tower Mascar,

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<v Speaker 2>to piss off vampires. So I want to see how

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of impacts them. Also, we must say, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was actually before the song was released, the power

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<v Speaker 2>of just the interview video did spark a stan war

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<v Speaker 2>between Taylor Swift's fansaka fans. So somebody made a They

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<v Speaker 2>put together some images of Taylor Swift from the Blank

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<v Speaker 2>Space video and the start and they wrote, got a

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<v Speaker 2>long list of ex lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll tell you I'm insane.

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<v Speaker 3>And perfectly appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift fans are not happy about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it worked well, it looked vibe, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a meme, but the Tailor Swift fans were not happy

1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:26.519
<v Speaker 2>and it became a quite impressive stand war. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, all I'll say about it is if you

1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:30.080
<v Speaker 2>want to read the tweets and see the memes, you can.

1:17:30.400 --> 1:17:34.880
<v Speaker 2>But Pixie Layer at Twitter summed it up perfectly and said,

1:17:35.000 --> 1:17:39.000
<v Speaker 2>lstat getting canceled and igniting Stan Wars less than twenty

1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:43.200
<v Speaker 2>four hours after his debut is unironically exactly on brand

1:17:43.200 --> 1:17:44.920
<v Speaker 2>for listat and I couldn't agree more.

1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And we're seeing it happen in so many ways, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the Taylor swifting is hilarious, and I hope the show's

1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:53.639
<v Speaker 3>social media team is just cranking it up, just getting

1:17:53.680 --> 1:17:56.040
<v Speaker 3>really ready to lean full tilt into that. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I've really enjoyed about this, like the song feels like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I was worried Thatta is going to try to reach

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<v Speaker 3>the the youth, you know that he was gonna be

1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:08.280
<v Speaker 3>like a TikTok musician or whatever. It was a full

1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:10.960
<v Speaker 3>three minute and forty second song. This is old school. Yeah,

1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:14.680
<v Speaker 3>they said full songs, no two minute things here and

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<v Speaker 3>then if we could just briefly pick apart some of

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<v Speaker 3>the lyrics, there are some really great moments where it

1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:25.320
<v Speaker 3>plassly feels like a breakup song to Louie, which I

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<v Speaker 3>very much appreciate, but not even a break up, more

1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:30.840
<v Speaker 3>like I miss you, where are you? I'm angry with

1:18:30.880 --> 1:18:35.679
<v Speaker 3>you sort of vibes like yeah, yeah, yeah, please, yes, yes, Actually,

1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:37.760
<v Speaker 3>let me not pull up here because that's gonna be loud.

1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I can pull the lyrics on here. There's just one

1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:42.439
<v Speaker 3>verse aro.

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<v Speaker 2>People are like so excited around it, which I just

1:18:50.439 --> 1:18:56.240
<v Speaker 2>absolutely love too. So they are saying as well, like

1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:59.040
<v Speaker 2>the showrunner did tease and I think you can feel

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<v Speaker 2>these inspirations coming in, but like David Bowie, b York, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ba Cury, Beastie Boys, Franz, list, Red Cross, Lang, Lang,

1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Iggy Pop, Saint Vincent, So you're getting a real mixed

1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Nick Cave hilariously rally Ritchie, which I love because that's

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob Anderson's.

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<v Speaker 1>Performance name who plays Louis. So I'm like, will we

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<v Speaker 1>get a Colass.

1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm ready or whatever? They're like teleperfect schizophrenic link is

1:19:28.880 --> 1:19:32.280
<v Speaker 3>that keeps them like tied together? Please do a song

1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:34.360
<v Speaker 3>in that way. I would really like to see Listat's

1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:37.360
<v Speaker 3>dream version of Louise's and we got louis dream version

1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:40.040
<v Speaker 3>of Lstat. It just really reveals a lot about how

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<v Speaker 3>they see each other. Okay, so some of them. I

1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:45.720
<v Speaker 3>think that's great lyrics. I loved. Okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 3>one versus toward the end, it's another taste, another year,

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<v Speaker 3>another place, another tear, another chase, another sneer, without a trace,

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<v Speaker 3>you disappear. That's Louis. Pick up the pace, pack up

1:19:55.840 --> 1:19:59.400
<v Speaker 3>the gear, give me some faith, a souvenir. Here come

1:19:59.439 --> 1:20:02.759
<v Speaker 3>the gays, here come the fear. Now we're having fun. Okay,

1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:05.120
<v Speaker 3>give me some face for you. Remember from season one

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<v Speaker 3>is the phrase Louise when he meets up with his

1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:10.280
<v Speaker 3>old buddy and he gives him head in the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say that exact, clinging to this level of

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<v Speaker 3>non betrayal at the moment they were openly polymarious, and

1:20:17.000 --> 1:20:22.800
<v Speaker 3>he was like, you jaded, bitch. I'm still excited. I

1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:24.280
<v Speaker 3>really love what Samana has done.

1:20:24.479 --> 1:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I also love.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you, yes, there is already like

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<v Speaker 2>a Genius annotated version of this song on Genius.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say you could actually add some insight there

1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:46.479
<v Speaker 2>because they did not catch another face moment.

1:20:47.080 --> 1:20:49.439
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just think I think this is so cool.

1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we're onto.

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Something very special, and I think season three could be

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the something with this show to the mainstream, with the.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming to Netflix, and with the Witches show really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to improve its second season, I'm hoping season three is

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<v Speaker 3>a real banger and that we find more widows. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we talked to Sam, Come and join us. If you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't already seen this show. It's really good. It's on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe, like tomorrow the eighteenth. Let me get that right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on, yeah, I think it is going on August eighteen.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, Joel looks that up. I looked and did

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<v Speaker 7>as best as I could to try to find who

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<v Speaker 7>is listed as coms for a long face, It's not

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<v Speaker 7>anywhere I can find on the internet. However, Daniel Hart

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<v Speaker 7>has done the music for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he is doing Sam Reed said he is

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<v Speaker 2>doing the music for this.

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<v Speaker 7>And so has worked like he's worked with Broken Social Scene,

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<v Speaker 7>Saint Vincent, Polyphonic Squee, like he knows kind of this

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<v Speaker 7>era of indie rock music.

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<v Speaker 1>So that works that they Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>So August nineteenth, the show will be on Netflix, So

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<v Speaker 3>please go watch it. Delightful and we want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from you guys, so hit us up on the discord

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<v Speaker 3>if you have thoughts about the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks Joel, Thanks Rosie,