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Speaker 1: Warning warning.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode contained spoilers for the Vampire Chronicle series. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Anne Rice's Vampire Chrolanicle series. That's all the books, movies,

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Speaker 2: television series.

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Speaker 1: You have been warned. Dawn. Hello, my name is Rosie Night.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a special Friday episode of Xtra Vision where

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Speaker 2: our super producer joelmen Nique is gonna come on and

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Speaker 2: sell us on why you should be watching an Interview

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Speaker 2: with the Vampire. I'm already watching it, but she's gonna

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Speaker 2: make you realize that this is a show you have

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Speaker 2: to watch. And yes, we are here to deep dive

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Speaker 2: into your favorite shows, movies, and pop culture. We're here

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Speaker 2: every Tuesday, and every Thursday and sometimes Friday when we

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Speaker 2: might are in a correspondent to tell you why you

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Speaker 2: should be watching something you haven't yet dived into.

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Speaker 3: It is a Friday, and today Rosie and I are

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Speaker 3: taking a very queer, Gothic romantic dive into an RISI's

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Speaker 3: Vampire Chronicles, sometimes reforward to as the Immortal Universe, I

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Speaker 3: guess for television things for television.

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Speaker 2: For television, that's the shared universe of the Interview with

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Speaker 2: the Vampire and the Mayfair Witches that exist on AMC Plus.

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Speaker 3: And a third series, which we're going to talk about next.

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Speaker 3: But first, in our previous only on, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about the expansion of An Rice's Immortal Universe. Then we're

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Speaker 3: head over to our airlock. We have a conversation on

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Speaker 3: season two of An Rice's Interview with a Vampire over

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Speaker 3: on the AMC Plus. Absolutely worth the price of a

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Speaker 3: subscription for a month. You can binge it now. And

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Speaker 3: then we'll head over to back Matter to talk modern

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Speaker 3: adaptations in toxic romances in fantasy fandoms.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're so toxic, but they're so enticing.

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Speaker 2: And stay tuned after our airlock discussion for a really

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Speaker 2: lovely interview with Sam Reid from Interview of the Vampire

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Speaker 2: who plays Lastatt de Lion Court. But first it's previously on,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about the Talmasca spinoff series.

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Speaker 2: So this is a very interesting situation. I only know

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Speaker 2: about the Talamasca because I love Queen of the Damned,

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Speaker 2: which we both love, Joelle.

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Speaker 3: And I great film.

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Speaker 2: But in the Ann Raich series Mayfair Witches, which is

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Speaker 2: as all of her books are in a shared universe,

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Speaker 2: they introduced to Talamasca. And now in season two of

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Speaker 2: Interview the Vampire. Mild spoiler alert, we are given documents

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Speaker 2: that are related to our beloved Louis by a Tallamasca

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Speaker 2: agent called Raglan James. A incredible naming there, and incredible

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Speaker 2: naming for sure. So Joel, what is the Talamasca?

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Speaker 3: So this is an organization that monitors the supernatural with

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Speaker 3: many of its agents like supernatural abilities, which we haven't

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Speaker 3: you guys, this is how out of the loop I am.

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Speaker 3: I just started reading the Vampire Chronicles in order to

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Speaker 3: was like, man, Interview the Vampire was so good. So

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Speaker 3: there's an entire spin off called Mayfair, which is the

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Speaker 3: second season. It just wrapped filming and it's coming to

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Speaker 3: which is I think great news if you're like man,

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I have to say I was a big fan of

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Speaker 2: The Mayfair Witches. It's Alexandra Didario, who I love. She's

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Speaker 2: and there's kind of a strange mystery and the Talamasca

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Speaker 1: So when the Talamasca was brought up, I was like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: So apparently with the success of Maifo Witches, which is

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Speaker 2: They're an organization with their own secrets. Thankfully, dam mcdummott

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Speaker 2: liked to take and so did Mark Lafferty. Who's so

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Speaker 3: We really enjoy it, and it's still.

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Speaker 1: You can watch it.

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Speaker 2: You can still watch it, I believe on Max and

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Speaker 2: be so funny. Okay, Well, Talamasca allegedly gonna be hitting

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Speaker 2: we're stepping into the airlock or out of the airlock

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Speaker 2: either way, and talking season two of Interview of the Vampire. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Wait, before we get into season two, can you talk

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Speaker 3: it's not quite the same Isaac. Yeah, there's I don't

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Speaker 2: The truth is that Anne Rice has always embraced the

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Speaker 3: Through the roof. Okay, we are looking across rooms, We

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Speaker 3: it is all. It feels like original fan fiction. Reading

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Speaker 3: It's an exceptional read, particularly you fall more in love

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Speaker 3: actual relationship between progeny turned vampire, master vampire and siblings.

431
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot. And so they hop in a truck.

432
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: They're traveling with the statue of Venus, right, I think

433
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: it's the one, the one without the arms. You guys

434
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: know she's famous.

435
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: And you just send the Simpsons episode.

436
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you know, just the thing. It's on its

437
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: way to the Louver. They're on their way to Paris,

438
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: and Louis makes this declaration, this clear promise. That is

439
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: the most if you've ever been with a parent where

440
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: it's the two of you and conditions are not great

441
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: around you, you know, for whatever reason, and they turn

442
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: to you a say listen, I've got Oh it's the most

443
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: comforting thing in the world. It's the I've got you speech,

444
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: It's the you don't have you can be a child,

445
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: you can be a young person, you can be figuring

446
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 3: things out. I will make sure that it's the two

447
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: of us holding us down and that we will be okay.

448
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: And it is everything she wants and everything you want

449
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: for the two of them to have, and they let

450
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: you have it for two point five seconds because they care.

451
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: Comes Armond and Louie's back in love and it is

452
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: a little bit devastate. Talk to me about Armand, because

453
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 3: I didn't realize we don't get Armand's full story until

454
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: book freaking six. The way, I just be absorbed in

455
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: these novels for the next several weeks.

456
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Speaker 2: And if you remember, Almond is in the movie kind

457
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: of briefly in a similar way, played by Antonio Banderas,

458
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: and we kind of get a very compressed version of

459
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: what we see here.

460
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: But Armand here is we really.

461
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: Get to actually explore who he is, who the theater

462
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: this vampires are who have been kind of watching Louie

463
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: and Claudia while they're in Paris and kind of working

464
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: out whether or not they want to join they should

465
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: get them to join the coven.

466
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: Also, I will say the show is.

467
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: Called Interview with the Vampire in the original the set

468
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: up was, you know, Louie is giving a interview with

469
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Speaker 2: an actor.

470
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: It was originally meant to be I mean, with a journalist.

471
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: It was originally supposed to be real a phoenix, but

472
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: Phoenix passed away, Rip to our.

473
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Baby and his friends.

474
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: We lost all the things we lost, but his loving

475
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: friend Christian Slater, one of my favorite actors, came in.

476
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: He took on the role of the journalist Daniel Molloy,

477
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: and that was so fantastic. And when they were recasting

478
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: the show, I was like, oh, how could they do

479
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: it without Christian Slater? But little did I know that

480
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: they were going to cast Eric Bogosian as Daniel Molloy.

481
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: In one of the best castings of all time.

482
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: So we've seen Daniel go from the beginning of season

483
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: one where he does not believe anything Louis is saying

484
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: and thinks it's absolute nonsense to by this point when

485
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: he is meeting Armand and you know, he's talking with

486
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: Louie again, and this time Armand is part of the interview.

487
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: He's becoming enchanted by the vampires and their story, and

488
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: the impact that Armand has on Daniel is really interesting

489
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: because it is reflective of the impact that Armand has

490
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: on Louis when they first meet, and of course poor

491
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Speaker 2: Claudia gets shoved to the back.

492
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Speaker 1: If you've ever had.

493
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: A parent who is in a toxic relationship and you

494
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: are not the primary focus of their interest or care anymore, well, baby,

495
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: this is going to hit hard for you because Claudia

496
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 2: basically is left behind as Louis finds himself in the

497
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Speaker 2: Theater des Vampires who.

498
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Speaker 1: By the way, this is definitely.

499
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Speaker 2: One in the moment where I was like screaming when

500
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: we find out in episode two that, like, guess who

501
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: was the co founder of this theater. It was funny,

502
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: like can you ever get away from this man?

503
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 5: Now?

504
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: A word from our sponsors and we'll be right back.

505
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: The pan to the portrait above is so impressied, so

506
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: basically we have to rewind just a schmitch. So, first

507
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: of all, theatric to Vampire is a huge setting for

508
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: interview with Vampire. It's like very important. It's the first

509
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: time they meet a coven and this covenant in France.

510
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: The coven's really pissed because when you come to a

511
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: coven city, you're supposed to come in like pay amag

512
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: You're supposed to come through and be like, hey, I'm here.

513
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm not here to cause you trouble. Just let through whatever,

514
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: ask permission to stay, that kind of stuff. But they

515
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: spend months in Paris being quintessential American like tourists. They're like, oh,

516
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: pictures and he's got like berets and like handkerchiefs around

517
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: his neck. He's very an American in Paris style dress throughout.

518
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: It's so cute and.

519
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: If them slightly like they didn't know, they don't know

520
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: the rules.

521
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: Let's not didn't tell them the rules. You know, he

522
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: didn't do a good thing.

523
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: Begged all of season one to be like, please teach

524
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: me what it means to be a vampire? Self like,

525
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: is it not natural to you? And he's like, please,

526
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: could you just tell me what it is for us?

527
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Me doing?

528
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Are there others out He's like, they're scary and weird

529
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: out there. You're lucky to be here with me. I'm toxic. Stay.

530
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: So they get to they get to France and they

531
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Speaker 3: find them and they get to this theater and they're

532
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: like listen and we got you guys, good seats. So

533
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: it comes sit down middle center and see our show,

534
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: and the show starts off goofy, very French, very like mime.

535
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: Then you get Santiago. Another very important feature comes out

536
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: and he gives a devastating speech that is so and

537
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: immediately like, oh this theatroops kind of good and I

538
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: get why you'd want to live that nightlife and it's

539
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: very cool here, and I too want to be involved.

540
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: And they're going through all of these sets and then

541
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: suddenly it stops being a play you understand as a

542
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: viewer because the tone has shifted, and now there is

543
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: a terrified, half naked woman on stage pleading for her life.

544
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: The woman the actress playing that woman is actually the

545
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: assistant to the director, and the production found out she

546
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: could act and they were like, do you want to

547
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: do this role? And she kills it. Her terror is palpable.

548
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: She's begging the audience. But the point of the theater

549
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: is that you can transcend belief. And so the vampires

550
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: get to be themselves, for however, temporarily in front of

551
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: human beings, and they get to exalt in being vampires

552
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: and show off being vampires, and Claudia is enraptured. Immediately,

553
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: she is like, this is they are just killing and

554
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: having fun and nobody cares and there's not going to

555
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: be any trouble and and they.

556
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Get to be a star y, you know, Claudia gets

557
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: her wish and we see her she gets the star

558
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: in the play, but she ends up hating the play

559
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: because she's playing a baby for.

560
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Her whole life.

561
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So I will say we're about halfway through season

562
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: two now, I think we could let's talk a bit

563
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: more about like how we feel about season two and

564
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: where it left us, because we could.

565
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Talk about this all day. So we kind of get

566
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: to explore this.

567
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: We get some really great stuff with Louis and Armand

568
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 2: and Daniel, and we kind of make our way to

569
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: the end, which sets up our big season three, which

570
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: will be the rock starless stat stuff that we saw

571
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: in Queen of the Dams. Okay, Joelle, Yeah, So something

572
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: we talked about before this that I really like, I

573
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: would love to hear your things. How does it feel

574
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 2: to kind of watch this and see those changes that

575
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: have been made to kind of make this more modern,

576
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: to make it more inclusive, to make it basically more

577
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: interesting and more historically.

578
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Yes, like what does that feel like for you?

579
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: Phenomenal as a writer to be like, what if I

580
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: was able to plus everything I wrote twenty years ago

581
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: still connect with like an original audience that loved it,

582
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: find a new audios, and imbue so much of what

583
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: was happening to me back then that I couldn't process

584
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: into this space. They really really honor the life of

585
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: anta Resis child throughout this. If this is a book

586
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: about grieving her, what does that mean? So by if

587
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: you age her up from five to fourteen? Right, a

588
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: five year old is great in a book, and as

589
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: a ten year old in the movie they found an actress, Yeah,

590
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: like horrifying, Like she's she's insat she'll be hungry. As

591
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: a five year old, she's nuts. In the movie she's ten, right,

592
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: And so now as a ten year old, you can

593
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: be kind of like a little mini terror. You don't

594
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: maybe don't have enough like physical power, but you understand

595
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: enough of what's going on, and you know it's it's

596
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: still kind of offsetting. At fourteen, you are on the

597
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: cusp of what you are so close to being a woman,

598
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: but you're still definitively a child. And to on top

599
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: of that, you're in a hormonal rage all the time.

600
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: There's there's it's it's literally in your body. I hated

601
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: being fourteen. It was awful. I can't imagine being arrested

602
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: in that state for all of existence. And so I

603
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: found by aging her up and allowing an older actress

604
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: to play her, they were able to strike such a

605
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: balance of what it means to love and lose a

606
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: child because you get like man Louis in the finale,

607
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: and again, if you haven't watched and you're like, okay,

608
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm invested now, but that was time to pause our show.

609
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, take it if you If this sounds

610
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: like you're something you would just absolutely love to watch,

611
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: just just just pop it on right now, just start

612
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: right now, come back, because Joe I was gonna start.

613
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Spoiling in a more serious way.

614
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: Here we go. I don't want to do two out

615
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: of order, but Louie and let's stop get together at

616
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: the end after again a see a petrol which you'll

617
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: go back when talk about Arman because I'm obsessed with

618
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: this character. But they get this moment where we're start

619
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Speaker 3: after betraying Louis and literally being a key figure in

620
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: the reason Claudia die, he is like when she goes

621
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: she looked at me like a child looks at a parent.

622
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: But I was never her father because he knew she

623
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna last, and because of that, he separated himself.

624
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: And it that moment for me, turns everything around it.

625
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: I started the podcast, I was saying, you think Louis

626
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: is a victim the whole time. Louis is so cognizant

627
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: of who he is. He knows who he is, but

628
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: he doesn't know what he wants, and so he makes

629
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: a bunch of really terrible decisions. He chooses to hurt

630
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Armand's a controlling, total douche, but he hurts Armand in

631
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: a way that is completely unforgivable. I would never forgive

632
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: anyone if they spoke to me the way Louis speaks

633
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: to Armand in that hotel room, I would never the

634
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: way he manipulates Lestat into creating something for him. El

635
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: Soo's like, you will regret this, Like we should not

636
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: turn this person. This is a bad idea, and he's like, please,

637
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't kill anymore. I need her to live.

638
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: They're both her parents. Louis held on too tight and

639
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: didn't let her become her own person. Lestat turned his

640
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: so you wouldn't have to watch her fade. They both

641
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: wanted it being destroyed by this decision, But I love

642
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: it so much more than like the book. Ending is

643
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: so interesting in Interview with the Vampire when it ends,

644
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: And again, the timeline's tricky because both the movie and

645
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: the television series do this interesting thing where they acknowledge

646
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: the book as being the original interview and then use

647
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: the timeframe they're placed in as a reflection of that interview.

648
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: And so you understand that you're never quite sure if

649
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: you're getting the whole truth. You're not sure after you

650
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: read the novel. Is that the truth? You're not sure

651
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: if after you watch the movie, and you're not sure

652
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: after you watch the TV series? At which point am

653
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: I learning the absolute truth of who these characters are?

654
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: And it makes it so interesting because Louis has woven

655
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: such a web of all of these people hurt me

656
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: when really you are in a relationship making equally bad

657
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: decisions and buying trying to hurt these people too, actively

658
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: trying to hurt folks, to the point that the very

659
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: last decision Louis makes is Louis has to kick Ourmond

660
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: out again. We'll go back to our mind because I'm

661
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: really in your thoughts on him. He cans harmaud out

662
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: of his place. He's like, listen, if you hurt my

663
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: journalist's buddy, who I mean? Truly, the fact that we

664
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: get like in Anthony Bourdaine esque character interviewing Vampirestion is

665
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 3: amazing peak deliciousness. I wish Anthony were alive to comment,

666
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: because I really think he was like, oh yeah, I'll

667
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: be the Anthony Bardane of the series. I have no

668
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: problem doing it. Louis last act is to challenge literally

669
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: every vampire that can within hearing distance, which from what

670
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: we know of his powers, could be globally, to say, listen,

671
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: my apartment is open. If you're mad about how I

672
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: treated my manipulative ex boyfriend, you can come see me

673
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: about it. I don't sleep, I have nothing to do.

674
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: My windows. You get zapped by the sun, that's fine.

675
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: Windows can handle that. You don't get DApp by the sun. Great,

676
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: Come in the daytime. I'll be awake. Come fight me.

677
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: This is a man who needs the friction. He needs that.

678
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: He does not know how to exist if he's not

679
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: against someone. And I think that's a very fascinating because

680
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: in the end of the book he leaves. He's so healed.

681
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Stefs like, are you coming back? He's like, yeah, no,

682
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: I why would I ever come back to you. I'm healed,

683
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: I've done my cry. He's like, this stupid idiot asked

684
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: me if I can make him a vampire. He's not listening.

685
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't understand why I told the story here. Everything

686
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: is different. It's it's so, can I tell you one

687
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: more moment? One more Louis move. They're in the museum,

688
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: him and Armand they're in the museum. This is Armand

689
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: has just asked him basically said I love you. Are

690
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: we in a relationship? And what He's like, I mean

691
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: it's a situationship and that's good. Why do you want

692
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: to try Why do you try to push this? Because again,

693
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Louie understands, I've met somebody that could potentially be a

694
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: soul me is it could put you the love of

695
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: my life. But we are not on the same page.

696
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: I like you, your fun, we have a good time together.

697
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: It's not the same as what I had before. I

698
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: can't commit to you. In the second, armand Who, it's

699
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: also again very queer show also with stats.

700
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Ex, everybody's staying everybody.

701
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he hasn't left anyone since say, he hasn't

702
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: even said the word. So louis the first person he's

703
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: allowing himself to be romantically interested in. And our mom's

704
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: not happy with this answer. So he says, let me,

705
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: I'll take you on a date. Take youant date, let

706
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: me show you around and we'll see what's going on.

707
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: So he takes him to this museum where he sees

708
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: an old painting of the guy that turned him, and

709
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: he starts telling him this story, and somewhere in there

710
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: he's like, Louis, you have to trust me. I'm not Lestatte.

711
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: Throughout the series, lestatt has been popping up in Louise's

712
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: head as I mean.

713
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Is it almost like a kind of ghoul? Like a yeah?

714
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Is it a ghost? Is it a delusion? Is it

715
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: a psychic connection? Because they got like slight, Yes, we

716
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: don't know what. We really don't know what the lie

717
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: and the show even questions him and Louis like, oh

718
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: he was there, and at the same time together in

719
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: response to I'm not withstat they turned to armand and

720
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: simultaneously okay, oh, like this bitch. The way he's like

721
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: that okay is so it hit me, probably because it's

722
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: something I would say, which is literally, I'm aware entirely

723
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: that you're not with Stop. The fact that you think

724
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: I would be confused about that is insane? Uh, who

725
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: are you? And I just I loved watching this relationship,

726
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: but we all like I just, I'm obsessedately in with Stop,

727
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: like I need sixteen more seasons. I cannot wait to

728
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: see season three. But I'm also obsessed with armand and

729
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: I need to know your thoughts right O. See, I'm

730
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: on such an interesting character. He's ancient. He himself was

731
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: a slave too, which is something we don't the show

732
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: doesn't really investigate, but I think the actors do in

733
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: their performance this idea of we were both once owned

734
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: by other people, we were both loved and thrown out.

735
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: And also like the way that then, like when somebody

736
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: makes you as a vampire, like are they your owner?

737
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Like do they have this hold over you?

738
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: That?

739
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's definitely very deep. I thought they did

740
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: a great job with Armand.

741
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: I thought it's it was way more ex banded than

742
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: I expected it to be based on what I kind

743
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: of know of that, which is really based on like

744
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: the movie and like certain books I've read. But I

745
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: just thought they did a really great job creating this

746
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: kind of trio. I also love that kind.

747
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Of in the end, Armand and Daniel.

748
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Kind of like have this there, like well fine, then

749
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: like you don't love us, like that will be us,

750
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: We'll be will be us? And and Daniel gets to

751
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: put out his book and you kind of then you

752
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: don't really know what version we've been watching, because we know.

753
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Armand messes with people's minds, so what does the book

754
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: really say, you know?

755
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: And also I do love the kind of Louis challenging

756
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: everyone to come and get him, because it really reminded

757
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: me of in Queen of the Damn Do you know,

758
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: Lestat essentially creates these songs that reveal vampire secrets to

759
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: draw vampires to him because he's so lonely. So I

760
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: thought it was very interesting to see those two things

761
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: kind of coming together. Okay, Joelle, Yeah, before we go,

762
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: what are you most excited to see in season three?

763
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: What kind of rock star is the stock couldn't be

764
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: because in the book, it's the nineties, it's MTV. It's

765
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: like leather and lace, very sort of unny Kravits, like

766
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 3: a seventies inspired esque vibe. It's not super present right

767
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: now in our current society, and there's a social media

768
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: angle that I think if you don't tackle, you're missing

769
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 3: out on. And we're also it's a little nerve racking

770
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: for me because we're becoming more modern in a way

771
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: that I think a lot of the a lot of

772
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: the people involved in the creation of the show are

773
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: older white men. I don't think that's a disc They've

774
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: handled a lot of the racism queer like they've handled

775
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: everything very well so far, but it's also been extremely

776
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: We're going back in time. It's dated. You haven't had

777
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: to be connected to the youth of today, which is

778
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: a totally different thing, and so I'm interested to see

779
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: how to navigate that.

780
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, my dream is that they just use the music

781
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: from Queena the Dad, where he's like a new metal guy,

782
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: and it has like it honestly has like one of

783
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: the most beloved incredible soundtracks of all time now because

784
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: of TikTok, because of the cyclical nature of music and fashion,

785
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: that ends up being quite current now.

786
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: Like kids in the street in La are dressed in

787
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: jinco jeans with tiny.

788
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 3: Lace shows on TikTok is that.

789
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: The good thing is we can hopefully pray that, you know,

790
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: that could still be something that takes place at l

791
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: like it could still be in the eighties.

792
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: It could be. I mean, who knows, maybe it's going

793
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: to be in the future. I don't know.

794
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see it, but I hope that every

795
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: episode has at least one song, because I feel like

796
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: you have to commit to the musical of it all,

797
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: and this has been such a great queer show that

798
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: I pray that they commit and do musical stuff.

799
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: Yes, more or lesbians. We snuck two in here. You

800
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: get a lot of time together. I know we're wrapping up,

801
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: but yeah, Eric goes degree asad Zaman who played armand

802
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: did a sad job, and then we had a replacement

803
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 3: Bailey Bass was the original.

804
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: And she couldn't do it, I think because of scheduling.

805
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: Scheduling which is always just such drama. So Deliney hails,

806
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: which I love how they opened the series with the

807
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: role of Claudia would not be played by Delina Hills

808
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: as like, oh, you were getting into our theater bag.

809
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

810
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: I thought that Yeah, it was really and it was

811
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: nice to kind of let the audience know and not

812
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: try and sneak it in with.

813
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: That idea of like you was, yeah, we know that

814
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: that that's not the case.

815
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally. It honors both what the first actress

816
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: did and what and second actress. She killed it. The

817
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: I don't like windows when they're closed. Performance where she's

818
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 3: just distraught to be playing a little girl is so good.

819
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: But I also think we have to finally shout out

820
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: Ben Daniels. He played Santiago is such an evil little

821
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: prick like such I wrote in the notes we got

822
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: to talk about his tiny penis. I really like this reveal.

823
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: Santiago plays up being like a great star. He keeps

824
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: an old newspaper around of the greatest to ever perform Hamlet.

825
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: And you know, but he's was turned late in later

826
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: in life, so he's maybe what like late forties, early

827
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: fifties somewhere in there. So that means all of the

828
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: young heart throb rolls no longer available to him, all

829
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: the old wis end rolls a little bit out of

830
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: his reach. It's a weird place to be paused as

831
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: now nowadays you could just like, just go to film,

832
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: you'll be fine. But at this time it really stunts

833
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: his ability to do what he loves in a meaningful way.

834
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: And then on top of that, he needs to be

835
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: the center of attention. He's got all these groupies. But

836
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: we get to learn through Louis's very cool trick of

837
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: probing your mind for the worst memories of your life.

838
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: He was like, hey, remember the time that girl made

839
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: front of your small penis and told everybody about it?

840
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: Is that why you're like this? And then you behead Santiago.

841
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 3: It is a great fight.

842
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: The Santiago also has one of the most evil speeches

843
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: where he talks about like the things he did to

844
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: Claudia that she was dead and Claudia's ash that's really

845
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: what inspires it.

846
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was very I mean, as you can tell,

847
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: this is a deep show that we could probably have

848
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: a whole season just talking about.

849
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: But Joelle, I'm so sure joined us like me wonderful show.

850
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: Just rail about my obsession with this series. I know

851
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: it was a little chaotic, guys, the show's a little chaotic,

852
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: but in like the most delightful ways. And if you

853
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: loved it, I hope you reach out to us and

854
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: tell us about why you loved it and what books

855
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: we should be reading next and all that, and that

856
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: concludes our recap. Guys, stick around well status here. I

857
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 3: don't want to put too much pressure on us or you,

858
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: but he's here and we're going to talk to Sam Reed,

859
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: so stick.

860
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: Around, Okay, here we go.

861
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: Our guest today is Sam Reid. I first encountered Sam

862
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: in the mini series The Hatfields and the McCoy's and

863
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Want You, co starred with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton.

864
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: You may have sat on the edge of your seat

865
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: when he was the Earl of s six doing his

866
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: bid for the Throne and anonymous listen. I was there

867
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven. I was there, Okay, so later maybe

868
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 3: maybe Sam cili your heart and bell when he's playing

869
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 3: John Davin. Here, he's all mine.

870
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Madic here to x.

871
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: Ray to discuss his latest turn as a vampire less

872
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: Statalem Corton and Rice in AMC's Interview with a Vampire Sam.

873
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: Welcome, Hello, Thanks for having me.

874
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah you are. We're so happy that you're here.

875
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: We're both huge fans of the show, so we're just

876
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: really excited to chat to you.

877
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: So thanks for taking the time.

878
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: We are like a TV show with a comic book edge,

879
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: so we ask people a lot like what's your origin story?

880
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: So sometimes we ask about comics, sometimes we ask about acting,

881
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: but in this case, we want to know what's your

882
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: vampire chronicle's origin the story? When did you fall in

883
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: love with the books?

884
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: Uh? Well, they shot Queen of the Damn in Inn

885
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: in Melbourne, and as a kid, I was always kind

886
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 5: of hyper aware of all the big movies that were

887
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: coming over and shooting in Australia because I wanted to

888
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: be an actor and kind of was just you know,

889
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: I was a big Empire magazine reader and all that

890
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. And yeah, so I loved vampires. It

891
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: was really into Dracula Bromstocker's Dracula the movie, particularly as

892
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 5: a kid, so I was into I was into vampires.

893
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: It was my kind of Halloween costume. I go to costume.

894
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, I read the books in anticipation of the

895
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 5: film coming to Australia, which sounds incredibly geeky, but you

896
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 5: know that's what.

897
00:44:53,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: I love it here people.

898
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, you know, it's just a hyper focused

899
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: kid who's just really into into into filmmaking and theater,

900
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: and yeah, and you know, loved it. I don't think

901
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: I got past the first three and I think it

902
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 5: was kind of a big ask, the first of the books.

903
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: But I watched the movie and yeah, and I think

904
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 5: you know, at that point, you know, I loved the books,

905
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 5: but I left it there, you know, like you know,

906
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: I must have been like fourteen, maybe I think fourteen

907
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: or something like that. Yeah, so you know, I wasn't

908
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 5: going to get a role in Queen of the Damned,

909
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 5: even though even though I was really excited to watch

910
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: it when I when it did come out. Maybe maybe

911
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: I was younger because they usually see those things like

912
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: a year before they come out. Yes, but then you know,

913
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 5: like it's they stayed with me. They were very kind

914
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: of like present those books. But it was really I

915
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: think when I was sort of when I heard they

916
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: were going to make it into a TV series, I thought, oh, well,

917
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: I love to do that. That would be amazing, you know.

918
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 5: And then when the script came through from Rolling well,

919
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: when the audition came through and I read the script

920
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 5: Rollin's interpretation of it, I went back and read that

921
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: first book again during that audition period, and then the

922
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: closer I got, the further I got, and I just,

923
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 5: you know, like dove so heavily into those books before

924
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: I had been cast, you know, throughout that process, because

925
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 5: it's quite a long audition process. Even though I only

926
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 5: did probably like to two tapes and then chemistry reads,

927
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: it was stretched out over a long period of time

928
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 5: and a series of zone meetings and stuff like that,

929
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 5: so I had time, and I mean I read like

930
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: like that was all I was doing. Because also, you know,

931
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 5: as you're kind of like getting getting closer to kind

932
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 5: of accepting and getting a role like this, you kind

933
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: of have to really know what you're in for. Yeah,

934
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 5: So you know, now I've read them all a couple

935
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 5: of times and continue to read. I would love to

936
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: read something else right now. I'm I'm back at the

937
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 5: end of Queen of the Damn.

938
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. Though I just started rereading the

939
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: reading the books. I didn't really have a I like

940
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: the movie a lot as a kid. We're both obsessed

941
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: with Queen of the Damn.

942
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very influential.

943
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely hugely a stand and just really obsessed with

944
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 3: that movie. And it's been an interesting to go back

945
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: and sort of read and see like what's evolved. I'm

946
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: just did a secondary read of The Vampire lest At

947
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: and I was really intrigued. That's sort of the book

948
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: where we're at in this series now moving into the

949
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: new season. There's so many great characters in that book,

950
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: and I'm wondering, is there someone in there, whether it's

951
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: Magnus or that's Mom, or is there someone you're excited

952
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: just as a fan of the books and the overall series.

953
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely Gabrielle. I'm really excited to see Gabrielle, and

954
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 5: all the conversations I've had about how that character is

955
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 5: going to be explored is pretty exactly, so obviously don't

956
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: want to say too much, but yeah, like Gabrielle, I

957
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: think is an awesome character, and I think it gives

958
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 5: a lot of context to the start as well, so

959
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: you know, and I think that, you know, I remember

960
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: years ago when I read that book for the first time,

961
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 5: being really struck by the first scene that he kind

962
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: of has with his mom quite early on in the books,

963
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: and it's after he's killed the wolves and they're kind

964
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: of there's this like silent and you know, you know

965
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 5: that kind of evocketed feeling when you get when you're

966
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: reading that you can't quite sure, you can't quite explain

967
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 5: what it is, but it's immediately transporting, and I never

968
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: forget that. Like, he has this scene with his mother

969
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 5: where they're kind of silently sitting he's like, you know,

970
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: catatonic after killing eight wolves with a flail and they'll

971
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 5: take out of you. Yeah, and then he's and then

972
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 5: they're just sort of sitting silently by the fire, and

973
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: there's this like intensely uncomfortable sexual energy that is emanating

974
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 5: from the pages that I did not fully grasp, but

975
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: I remember as a kid like like look like thigki,

976
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 5: and that feeling happened again. I think I remember reading it,

977
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 5: you know, more more recently for the first time again,

978
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 5: and I was like, it was there, that thing was there,

979
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 5: and I guess that's that that thing that people talk

980
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: about lot with subtexts with these books, is there is like,

981
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 5: you know, incredible subtext. There's also text, but there's also

982
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 5: like there's also intense intense intensity of feeling. And then

983
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 5: she'll kind of like just drop a bomb and just

984
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: say like flat out what actually happened, you know, So

985
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: she's She's very extreme in that way, which I really

986
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 5: appreciate it. So yeah, yeah, that was my longitted way.

987
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Of saying no, no, no, I love it. It was a

988
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: perfect answer. Also, like I love that you brought.

989
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: That up, because I actually feel like that's something that

990
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: the finale of season two really translated, because we'd had

991
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: this kind of alleged text of the armand relationship, but

992
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: then you get this huge kind of barm of truth

993
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: about who was really behind it and what we kind

994
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: of really learned season two is a lot of the

995
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: Star in the corner of Louis's minds and this kind

996
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: of different version of Las Start.

997
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: What was it like.

998
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: To then shoot those scenes with Jacob where it is

999
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: this reunion, this truth, this kind of apology, this beginning,

1000
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: this end. It's such a huge moment and the episode's

1001
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: so fantastic. What was it like for you as an

1002
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: actor to get to be real the Start again in

1003
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 2: those moments.

1004
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: It's funny how these bits of language kind of pop up,

1005
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 5: like with this Real Start language that it's kind of appeared.

1006
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think I thought of it like that.

1007
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 5: I mean I knew that I knew that there was

1008
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 5: a level that you know, I could just be less,

1009
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: you know, because because when you're playing kind of like

1010
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 5: the villain of your ex story, knowing that but also

1011
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 5: knowing that that they love them. You know, there's a

1012
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 5: deep love between Louis Endless Start. So it's very complex

1013
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 5: kind of but it allowed me to be very extreme.

1014
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 5: And also I knew I knew, and I know which

1015
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 5: scenes you know, and it's up to rollin in the

1016
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: end of the day, and I know which ones he

1017
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 5: was thinking. But you know in season one what scenes

1018
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: are real and what they're not, what not you know

1019
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 5: and what and so there are some things we could

1020
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: do really extreme stuff. So when you approach a scene

1021
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 5: like this, it's like, Okay, we we're now out of

1022
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: any kind of character's POV. We're just in the real

1023
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: world of the show. Now you know, what do you do?

1024
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 5: But I guess a scene like that is it's more

1025
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 5: about the connection between Louis and le Start. And and

1026
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 5: it was a really crazy day, like it was really rushed,

1027
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 5: which is kind of often the way it is with television,

1028
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 5: but that heaps going on. There's a lot of special effects,

1029
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 5: as per usual in our show, so we have like

1030
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of effects which make things quite complicated.

1031
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 5: It was like guys with leaf blowers.

1032
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: In the just like setting people on fire.

1033
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that and that takes a really long time,

1034
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: like to get that right because they've got rigs that

1035
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 5: has to be renewed, because it's all done practically, which

1036
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 5: is one thing that I do love about this show,

1037
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 5: which kind of harkens back to Copola's Racula, which is

1038
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: like a lot of the effects. We don't do it

1039
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: so much with the sets, but the sets are really

1040
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 5: built a lot of the effects. The effects are real,

1041
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: so it takes a time. It takes a little time

1042
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: to reset. But yeah, it was, it was, it was.

1043
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: It was a wonderful thing to do. And you know,

1044
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: Jacob and I just kind of was like, fuck it,

1045
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 5: let's go. That's just you know energy.

1046
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: Definitely, We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be

1047
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: right back.

1048
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: We're back.

1049
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: It's fascinating to hear you guys talk about one another.

1050
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: There's clearly such like an artistic love between you guys

1051
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: just as creators that I find really sweet. And also,

1052
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: like you know, I'm outside of being a host, I'm

1053
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: also a producer. It's my job to put teams of

1054
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: people together and try to create you know, beautiful stuff.

1055
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: And I think when you find a connection between two

1056
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 3: people I work with Zach Braf and Donald Faison who

1057
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 3: met on Scrubs and then became like lifelong best friends,

1058
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: And like, I find it so interesting the way certain

1059
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: shows can be cast that create sort of these lifelong

1060
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: connections that are so much more than just the show.

1061
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: You know, for you, it's just a creator, and like,

1062
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: have you worked with a ton of like very brilliant actors.

1063
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 3: But I imagine just because of the way the show is

1064
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: set up, there's a special you know, it's different doing

1065
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: a show, co leading a show with somebody.

1066
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I think you also just like it's

1067
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: just a scenario that is incredibly fortunate. We're just very

1068
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 5: lucky that we get we get on so well. I

1069
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 5: don't think it was I don't know if Roland had

1070
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 5: masterminded it. I have to give him if he did.

1071
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: But we never met in person until we turned up,

1072
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: you know, to start shooting. We did everything I didn't,

1073
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't meet anybody. Nobody saw me until

1074
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 5: I turned up to start shooting. So everything had been

1075
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 5: done on zoom and it was you know, during lockdowns

1076
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 5: in Australia, so like it was just this bizarre time. Yeah,

1077
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 5: but you know, just Jacob and I we're very similar.

1078
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 5: We just get on really well. We have very I

1079
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 5: guess we're different actors, but we're also like I would

1080
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: say we're very similar actors in terms of we're not

1081
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 5: like talking about too much, overthinking about it too much.

1082
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 5: We're like to have it sort of flexible to kind

1083
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: of you mess around and then we just drop it

1084
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 5: like it just goes I think, you know, I think

1085
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: we just do. But also like then we just drop it,

1086
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: like then the scenes over and we drop it and

1087
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 5: we just chat chat about something else random or what's

1088
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: funny in the room or And you know, you need

1089
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 5: that on a show like this because it's it's a

1090
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: very big, silly show that takes itself very seriously and

1091
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: it can suck you right in into this bizarre kind

1092
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: of like vortex, and you you do need to be

1093
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: able to step out of it and laugh about it,

1094
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 5: and you know, and we do, and you know, it's

1095
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: really valued, you know, and we've got a lot of

1096
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 5: trust between the two of us. There's just so much

1097
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 5: us and you know, just like it's that is so

1098
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 5: so important, it.

1099
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Really is, and something like as we leave this, you

1100
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: know you kind of talked about your connection to Queen

1101
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: of the Damned.

1102
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: We both love it.

1103
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: It was I saw it with my friends at like

1104
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: the cinema and I think it was in like Islington

1105
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: or somewhere, and we got on the bus and we

1106
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: all went and saw it and we end up seeing

1107
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: like five times, and I still love the soundtrack. How

1108
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 2: does it feel now to not just be playing Listar

1109
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: and have played him for two years, but as that

1110
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: kid who was waiting for that movie to be filmed

1111
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: in Australia and who wanted was reading every article about it,

1112
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: how does it feel to now be about to embark

1113
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: on doing your take on it and bringing that aspect

1114
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 2: of Lista to life.

1115
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: What's that like?

1116
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 5: God? Look, I want to preface by saying, I don't

1117
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: know if I was necessarily like, you know, it was

1118
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 5: Queen of the Damn that kind of got me into it.

1119
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: But I think I probably visually prefer the interview with

1120
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 5: the Vampire movie and.

1121
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: What's gonna judge you? It's it's you know, it's like

1122
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: it's a cult movie classic.

1123
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously interview with the Vampire is I must

1124
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: say the Queen of.

1125
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 5: The Damn has that the best line, I think, and

1126
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 5: I and I have kind of like, you know, into

1127
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 5: it role and could we please just do a reference

1128
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 5: to that when when I think it's between Jesse Reeves

1129
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 5: and the start and he's like, I think she goes

1130
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 5: boo and he goes boo back.

1131
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: Ye.

1132
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 5: No, just credit to the screenwritters with that film. But

1133
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: oh my god, what an extraordinary canelievable. Yeah, but to

1134
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: your question, it's terrifying really. I mean it's like, you know,

1135
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 5: and we have sort of started little pieces of it,

1136
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: and it's you know, with a wildly ambitious team and

1137
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 5: people who make this show and and and you know,

1138
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: Daniel Hart is a genius. He does the music, and

1139
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: you know, seeing some of the stuff that's coming out

1140
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 5: is sort of like amazing. And I'm really really excited

1141
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 5: and terrified to do it. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's wild.

1142
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 5: It's a totally wild thing to do.

1143
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1144
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Especially, I feel like after the first two seasons of

1145
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: this show, I feel like, well, like you said, it's

1146
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: a silly show that takes herself very seriously.

1147
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: I feel like season three, for people who don't know

1148
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: what it's going to be about. Could be a shoka.

1149
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think, but I think, yeah, it is

1150
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: a shakraa But it's the same kind of the experience

1151
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 5: if you get when you read the books, when you

1152
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 5: go from the first second book, you're like, well, and

1153
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 5: I think it should feel like that. It should sort

1154
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 5: of feel like that, because that's kind of like the

1155
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 5: true essence of that experience of what she intended. I

1156
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: know that she kind of wanted to do a different

1157
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 5: order of the books in her in her series, but

1158
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 5: I actually think that this is a is a really

1159
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 5: great way. And also we have a wonderful Louis now,

1160
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 5: you know, and and he's been really which kind of

1161
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 5: allows us to keep that character going forward in the series,

1162
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: which I think is which is fantastic. Yeah, it's it's

1163
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 5: wild wild, it's a wild thing.

1164
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: We've heard from the music, like everything from like We're

1165
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: going to try to out do Rocky Horror Picture Show

1166
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: and Headwig and Angry and the music from the whole

1167
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: series has been lovely. How are you feeling is like,

1168
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: are you tackling vocals? Are you excited about stepping into

1169
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 3: that aspect of performance for this out.

1170
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 5: I feel like when Roland gave that reference, I think

1171
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: he was more talking about the genre of film than

1172
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 5: he was necessarily speaking about the actual sound of music,

1173
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 5: not the sound of the music, not the musical Yeah,

1174
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 5: I think there are elements. I think there are elements

1175
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: that probably will be musical to it. Yes, we're definitely

1176
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 5: getting into a lot of a lot of singing. And

1177
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 5: you know, it's really that's that is a really fun

1178
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 5: thing to do. It's a really fun you know, I've

1179
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 5: done musical before, and but in terms of like playing

1180
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 5: at an actor, like singing in a character is a

1181
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 5: really fun challenge. And to find the voice of the

1182
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 5: character when they sing, and what they choose to be

1183
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 5: their creative output, you know, and what is the start

1184
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 5: making in twenty twenty six. I think that's really interesting.

1185
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 5: I think that's a kind of like where does he

1186
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 5: sit there? And yeah, how does he deal with you know,

1187
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift, I don't know, you know, I just think.

1188
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: It's really that's his version of the aerostore. We're going

1189
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: to find out, you know.

1190
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's hard to know. I mean, he might

1191
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 5: love it. I think it's you know, I just I

1192
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 5: think it's a kind of interesting space, you know, to

1193
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 5: to explore. And also I think it's interesting, like what

1194
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: happens if starts not as popular as Yeah, I don't

1195
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 5: know the answer to any of these questions, but I

1196
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 5: just think it's I think it's interesting. Yeah, particularly it's

1197
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 5: this whole, you know, because you know, this whole sort

1198
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 5: of like coming out story as a vampire. Here we

1199
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 5: are on the world stage as real beings, and in

1200
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six there's so much misinformation. It's so much

1201
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 5: or twenty twenty six and know what I'm saying twenty

1202
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 5: twenty four today, But yeah, like what is you know,

1203
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's like, you know, nobody we really like.

1204
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: The alien stuff just reasonably happened, you know, where all

1205
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 5: these unclassified documentation came out sort of so am I

1206
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 5: confirming that there is extraterrestrial life? And I don't know,

1207
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 5: I feel like they kind of got washed under the

1208
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: carp and I'm not even sure if it's true. I

1209
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 5: just sort of what happened, and we were like front

1210
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 5: pages all day of the newspapers aliens are real, and

1211
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: then we've kind of forgotten about it and now we're

1212
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 5: kind of like looking at something else. So I think

1213
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: that's the life the world in which we're living in.

1214
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: I think it is a very interesting space for vampires

1215
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 5: to exist in that place, because there'll be some people

1216
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 5: who are really obsessed with them and believe that it's real,

1217
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 5: and there be other people who don't give to you know,

1218
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 5: flying out and want.

1219
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: To debunk it. Yeah.

1220
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: Well so, I mean so the kind of rock star

1221
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: nature of the star in that next series, Lista is

1222
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: already like a pop culture rock star, Like he has

1223
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: a very feral fandom.

1224
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: I will say feral, as I was.

1225
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: Part of it. It's fair. It's a fair, so I

1226
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: would say it's fer, it's fair. We're getting a.

1227
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: Lot of great like villain moments at the moment, with

1228
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: many Jacinto playing climate in uh you know the Recircle series,

1229
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: the Acolyte with his beautiful arms and and his outrageous cloaks.

1230
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: Uh, he got very into the world of kind of

1231
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: list that.

1232
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he did Kimer fanfic and looking at

1233
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: you three and stuff like that. Have you ever ventured

1234
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: into that space of the into the fan fic kind

1235
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: of lestat like space.

1236
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 5: So when we started, very like I was in and

1237
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 5: I was looking like I, you know, because I felt

1238
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 5: like it was really important for me to get an

1239
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 5: idea about what everyone else had in their mind, you know,

1240
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: like I have my own idea of the character, and

1241
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 5: then you know Roland's idea of the character. And then

1242
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 5: I was like, what, what does everybody see? Like? This

1243
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: character is? Some things I totally agreed with and totally

1244
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: found fascinating and wanted to I wanted to find space

1245
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 5: to incorporate that. Other times I was like not not,

1246
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: not totally sure where that came from the.

1247
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: World of A three.

1248
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that very that's very relatable.

1249
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like, Wow, why isn't this cannon?

1250
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: And sometimes you're like, I'm so sad I read that,

1251
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: like why did I?

1252
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: But I will say I didn't. I did not know.

1253
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 5: I have not. I didn't go into AO three like

1254
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 5: I know AO three exists because I do another show

1255
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: where the show runner for that show was finding all

1256
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: this erotic fan fiction that existed and he would be

1257
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 5: telling me about it, and I just was like, I don't.

1258
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 5: I don't think this is valuable for me to to see.

1259
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 5: What I will say is I did recently listen to

1260
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 5: a podcast I can't remember that the vampire inside it,

1261
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 5: and they talk about our show, and they're quite quite lovely.

1262
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 5: And one person who I had met, she had come

1263
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 5: to set. I don't know her real name, but she

1264
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: told me her name was Inky Inky Blots. It was

1265
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 5: her name, And she read on that podcast a really

1266
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 5: fascinating piece of fan fiction, which was this beautiful kind

1267
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 5: of story that went into the kind of psychology between

1268
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 5: the Start and Magnus during that transformation, which I was

1269
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 5: kind of blown away by. Yeah, but I don't think

1270
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 5: like all of the erotic stuff. I don't know if

1271
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: it's really necessary. Like I know, I'm making a sexy

1272
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: show and.

1273
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: You guys have in the text it's there.

1274
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: Watched the shot.

1275
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 5: That layer of bubbling sunth it.

1276
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of fanfic comes from a place where

1277
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: that representation wasn't there. So I totally understand how in

1278
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: a show where it's absolutely text, it feels less of

1279
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: a necessity to explore it.

1280
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but nowadays I really stay away from the internet.

1281
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 5: It's kind of you know, I made some like pretty

1282
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 5: big errors, like you know, last season with having a

1283
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 5: look at what was going on, and actually now have

1284
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 5: like blocks on the phone and have no, no, zero

1285
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 5: social media accounts whatsoever. And I also have a time

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Speaker 5: on Google, so I can't even for an hour a day.

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Speaker 1: That's good. You've got to protect yourself, like, yeah, truly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have a lot have a time around

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Speaker 3: my Instagram for the same reason.

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Speaker 5: You also have to be careful because I have to

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01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: be able to do my job. I have to be

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: able to turn up to work and do it and

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 5: not have some kind of like, you know, complete crisis

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 5: because you know, somebody hates me out there, which you

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01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 5: know that's kind of that's sort of part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we've we've been there. Yeah, never read the comments.

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Speaker 3: There is not a safe space. See's what I've interviewing

1298
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Speaker 3: with The Vampire is coming to Netflix toward the end

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Speaker 3: of August. We've seen a lot of shows head that

1300
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: way and really find a much wider audience. I'm thinking

1301
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 3: of Penn Badly as Joe and you like that show

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: really hit when it moved from Lifetime to Netflix. Are

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: you feeling ready for this new surge of interest in

1304
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: audience coming to the series?

1305
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 5: Not really, there was something there was something so wonderful

1306
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 5: about being a part of this like cult show which

1307
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 5: I think really really kind of gives us this wonderful

1308
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: feeling on set that we feel like, you know, we're

1309
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 5: somehow AMC blessed them have given us so much money

1310
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 5: to make this kind of like totally culture ye like

1311
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 5: n that feels very kind of like, you know, specific

1312
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: to people like, you know, you know, I would watch

1313
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 5: the show. I would love this show. And I think

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01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 5: that's one thing. You know, it's really important as an

1315
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 5: actor when you're like, you know, going after material, like

1316
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 5: when you read the script the first time, you're like,

1317
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: would you watch this? Is there something you care about?

1318
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 5: Does this having a message that it's kind of like

1319
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 5: beyond what this could be? And I feel this really

1320
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 5: really does And I love that feeling. I love that

1321
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 5: quiet secret feeling. What happens when it's on Netflix, I'm

1322
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: not sure.

1323
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: Fingers fingers crossed that it just finds all the other

1324
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 2: kind of weird o people I'm weirdose who haven't had

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01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: the chance.

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: To discover it.

1327
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: Oh, that would be wonderful.

1328
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the that's the most likely version

1329
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: is all the kids who didn't have AMC Plus or

1330
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: they are amazing queer creatives who don't really stream a lot,

1331
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: but their parents have Netflix, They're going to be able

1332
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: to discover this show and go oh my god, like yes.

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: You know, as we as we talk about like, I

1334
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: think one of the things people kind of have really

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: appreciated about the show is like the technical aspects, which

1336
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: is not something people always appreciate, but there have been

1337
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: a ton of Anne Riceman dressing up as vampires from

1338
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: different eras for a long time, and the costuming in

1339
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: the show is through the roof. It's so good. And

1340
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: is someone who used to dress up as a vampire

1341
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: as a kid. I was wondering is there an outfit

1342
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 3: looks for the stat that you were like, it is bomb,

1343
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: Like this is a fit.

1344
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 5: I would tell you that every time I'm in a

1345
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 5: costume fitting, like we're like are we is this a

1346
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 5: Halloween costume? You know, like it's it is? It is?

1347
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: Yeah for us, I'm always like looking, is this a

1348
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 5: Halloween costume? Like would you get dressed up as this?

1349
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 5: Or you try and find the Halloween costume? Like you know,

1350
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 5: so yeah, I think from this season we definitely try

1351
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 5: to return to that motif of that of that dressing

1352
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 5: gown that he wore in season one, so when you

1353
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 5: kind of return to him in episode eight, like he

1354
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 5: is wearing the same dressing gown, but it's like totally

1355
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 5: distressed and destroyed. I think what I loved about that

1356
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 5: costume particularly, you know, I mean, I had a I

1357
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 5: always have lots of great costumes, but I love it

1358
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 5: what that costume particularly is that if you actually look

1359
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 5: underneath what I'm wearing underneath and wearing a very kind

1360
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 5: of sort of high fashiony tank top, and I don't

1361
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 5: know if you ever see the pants, but I'm wearing

1362
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 5: like I can't remember what designer brand pants they are,

1363
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 5: and like a pair of like sort of Chelsea boots,

1364
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 5: Swayed Chelsea boots. I also have. I also have like

1365
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 5: obscenely expensive speakers, which I can't remember the brand, but

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 5: I know that they're some some some form of product placement,

1367
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 5: Like it's really really expensive speakers in there, and iPad

1368
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 5: and Siri, so I think there's a kind of but

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 5: he's you know, he's in this like ratted.

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Speaker 3: And it was the iPad with the giant like fake

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: keyboard was grand like really mirroring.

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Speaker 5: In that set. There's also a smashed Grand piano, so

1373
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 5: it's obviously like he's been playing it then got frustrated.

1374
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: You don't really see the piano, but he smashed it

1375
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 5: and then he carved carved the piano out of a

1376
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: plank of wood. But I think, you know, I think

1377
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 5: that kind of costume is a really fun one. Obviously,

1378
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 5: just everything with blood, and to put as much of

1379
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 5: blood on myself as possible, because that's a nice, cheap,

1380
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 5: easy Christmas Christmas. That's my Christmas Halloween costume. You know,

1381
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 5: just you know, get a white shirt, put a bit

1382
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 5: of blood on it. That's always a good one.

1383
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: You know, that's really exting. Yeah, I mean, also, we're

1384
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: going to San Diego.

1385
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna likely get to see some really fantastic cosplay.

1386
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: It's one of the most magical parts of the show

1387
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: is getting to see how much it connects with fans.

1388
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 5: And I'm excited.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: Which costumes they choose to to recreate too.

1390
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited. I actually got to meet someone recently

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01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 5: who I'm who I had met, but she was dressed

1392
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 5: as the Start when I had first met her, so

1393
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 5: I didn't recognize we've met before. She was like, yeah,

1394
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 5: I was dressed Start last time, in this sort of

1395
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 5: big blonde wig, so it is always fun to see

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 5: it all.

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much Sam for

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01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: joining us. Total joy, congrats on the show. We're so

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: excited for season three. Thank give her, and yeah, hope

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01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: to speak to.

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: You again soon and have a great day, okay.

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01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 6: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sumsion and Rosie

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 6: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive

1404
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 6: producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer

1405
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 6: is a booze Afar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent and

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 6: Mia Taylor. Our theme song is by Brian Basquez.

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01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: and Heidi our discoord moderator.

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 3: Rosie. After we recorded this episode, we had to come

1410
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: back after the credits because San Diego happened and Immortal Wit.

1411
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: He was like, here are two videos for you to

1412
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: just dissolve into. One is the lyric video long Face,

1413
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: which is the first single we get from a stat

1414
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: aka Sam Reid, which is crazy and cause a lot

1415
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 3: of controversy, which.

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01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna get perfect.

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: And then the other one is a video of like

1418
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 3: Lestatt walking into an interview and Daniel's interviewing him. But

1419
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: it's a camera thing and you learn so much about

1420
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: the direction they're going in, and so we were like,

1421
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna we have we have to talk about what's happened.

1422
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 3: So I think maybe we should start with the interview video,

1423
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 3: which I found really interesting. What did you think of it?

1424
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: Me too, So basically it's feeling, let's just be wrong,

1425
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: it's giving mockumentary.

1426
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: I do wonder if that's gonna be the framing this time, if.

1427
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Daniel Eric Bagosian legend, who is clearly like,

1428
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: do not write me off this show.

1429
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm being here for LISTA.

1430
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 4: No One that I love that for him, I'm certainly

1431
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 4: not nobody wants to and uh so I think it

1432
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: is going to be at least interspersed with Daniel interviewing

1433
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: the start.

1434
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: I love the attitude that Sam gives here. It's pure

1435
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 2: rock stuff. It's unbelievable. They've managed to make it contemporary,

1436
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: They've managed to make it vibrant, they've managed to make

1437
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: it campy. I'm very excited we see Lestar at his

1438
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: most lastat here.

1439
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: This is not like.

1440
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: Broken down Missing Louis in a trash house in New Orleans.

1441
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 2: This man is disrespecting everybody. He's as sassing the staff,

1442
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 2: he's treating people terribly, and he's just giving full rock star.

1443
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: I loved it.

1444
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 3: It's definitely Lista entering like his second hundred years, you

1445
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: know the if the books, like early when he comes

1446
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: to New Orleans, he's like just beyond baby vampire. He's

1447
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: like entering his teenage vampire years. And they're like, hey man,

1448
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: you got to go out there and like live a life.

1449
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 3: You gotta go find your own progeny, like go live

1450
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: and he's like, that's kind of scary, but I'm gonna

1451
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: do it because i'mostat in like big kind of power.

1452
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 3: Now he doesn't care, and it's really exciting. He's just

1453
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 3: sort of over it. He's not trying to hide his

1454
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: vampires at all, which is totally like a thing within

1455
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 3: the music. But there's also if you look really closely

1456
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 3: in the video, there's blood on his chest. The man

1457
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: is not together.

1458
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. So I loved the interview clip because

1459
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: they felt like I watched it a lot of times.

1460
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: Actually, I just felt like it's so understood innately what

1461
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: we needed from this season, which is rock Starlistat Who.

1462
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: And this actually I think aligns really nicely with how

1463
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: Louis ended season two where he kind of said, you know,

1464
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: fuck you bitches, come find me, like do what you will.

1465
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: And we have the stat here essentially doing the same thing, saying, Hey,

1466
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 2: I am a vampire and if you've got a problem

1467
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: with me, come find me vampires and that is a

1468
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: key part of Queen of the Damned. Yes, and so

1469
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: I loved that the interview video gave that. But then

1470
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 2: I have to say I was not expecting them to

1471
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: release a full song, okay, and it was divine.

1472
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: I love the song. One last thing before we got

1473
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: off the video, I I genuinely loved just the conclusion

1474
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 3: of it. What makes the list that book so interesting

1475
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: is he's not talking to you. It's like an interview, but

1476
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 3: it's really more of a monologue directly to people. There's

1477
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 3: not like a back and forth staying out of time.

1478
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: And so I was really intrigued by the way they

1479
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: were like, oh, lastat it's just gonna talk directly to

1480
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: you through this Lens. I hope we get a lot

1481
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 3: more of that in the show, and I also like

1482
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: to find a line, which is a line that Marius

1483
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 3: gives him before he goes on his venture to New Orleans.

1484
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is it's just feeding me

1485
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: as somebody who's recently learned to love the books. The

1486
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: song Okay, here we Go, I was We talked in

1487
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 3: the interview a little about like we're not really sure

1488
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: we heard how do we get an angry edge? And

1489
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: we weren't really like, what are we going to get

1490
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: out of the musical stylings of Lestat in this more

1491
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 3: modern telling of interview with a Vampire. I love that

1492
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 3: it's so pure rock. They were like, we're bringing in

1493
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 3: all the guitars. It's yeah, like very sort of like.

1494
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: It's very like Queens of the Stone Age. It's very

1495
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: kind of rock. Yes, from maybe I would.

1496
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 2: Say it's got influenced from like twenty years ago, but

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: that music is still kind of those bands are still

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01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: around today, and it does have this glam edge to it.

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: I thought the song was so good. I couldn't believe it.

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know if they were gonna be able to

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: pull it off. But whoever's writing those songs bang off.

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01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 3: It totally feels like we're definitely.

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: Gonna get a cast album too. Yes, it really does.

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01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna get one.

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: Also, I will say something that he does in the

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 2: books that I expect that we'll see here is he's

1508
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: like put Anning Queen of the Damn the movie, my

1509
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: beloved movie.

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: But like he puts like secret vampire messages and vampire.

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: Law into the songs. And this definitely feels like that.

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: And he does it specifically to piss off the Tower Mascar,

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: to piss off vampires. So I want to see how

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01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: this kind of impacts them. Also, we must say, and

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: this was actually before the song was released, the power

1516
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: of just the interview video did spark a stan war

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01:16:54,479 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: between Taylor Swift's fansaka fans. So somebody made a They

1518
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: put together some images of Taylor Swift from the Blank

1519
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: Space video and the start and they wrote, got a

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: long list of ex lovers.

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: They'll tell you I'm insane.

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,919
Speaker 3: And perfectly appropriate.

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift fans are not happy about.

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: You know, it worked well, it looked vibe, it was

1525
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: a meme, but the Tailor Swift fans were not happy

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: and it became a quite impressive stand war. And you

1527
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: know what, all I'll say about it is if you

1528
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 2: want to read the tweets and see the memes, you can.

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01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: But Pixie Layer at Twitter summed it up perfectly and said,

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01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: lstat getting canceled and igniting Stan Wars less than twenty

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: four hours after his debut is unironically exactly on brand

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01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: for listat and I couldn't agree more.

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01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 3: Yes, And we're seeing it happen in so many ways, like, Okay,

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 3: the Taylor swifting is hilarious, and I hope the show's

1535
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 3: social media team is just cranking it up, just getting

1536
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 3: really ready to lean full tilt into that. But what

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01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: I've really enjoyed about this, like the song feels like, Okay,

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: I was worried Thatta is going to try to reach

1539
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 3: the the youth, you know that he was gonna be

1540
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 3: like a TikTok musician or whatever. It was a full

1541
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 3: three minute and forty second song. This is old school. Yeah,

1542
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: they said full songs, no two minute things here and

1543
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: then if we could just briefly pick apart some of

1544
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 3: the lyrics, there are some really great moments where it

1545
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: plassly feels like a breakup song to Louie, which I

1546
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: very much appreciate, but not even a break up, more

1547
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: like I miss you, where are you? I'm angry with

1548
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 3: you sort of vibes like yeah, yeah, yeah, please, yes, yes, Actually,

1549
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 3: let me not pull up here because that's gonna be loud.

1550
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: I can pull the lyrics on here. There's just one

1551
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 3: verse aro.

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: People are like so excited around it, which I just

1553
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: absolutely love too. So they are saying as well, like

1554
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: the showrunner did tease and I think you can feel

1555
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: these inspirations coming in, but like David Bowie, b York, Yeah,

1556
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: Ba Cury, Beastie Boys, Franz, list, Red Cross, Lang, Lang,

1557
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: Iggy Pop, Saint Vincent, So you're getting a real mixed

1558
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: Nick Cave hilariously rally Ritchie, which I love because that's

1559
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Jacob Anderson's.

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: Performance name who plays Louis. So I'm like, will we

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: get a Colass.

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: I'm ready or whatever? They're like teleperfect schizophrenic link is

1563
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: that keeps them like tied together? Please do a song

1564
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: in that way. I would really like to see Listat's

1565
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: dream version of Louise's and we got louis dream version

1566
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 3: of Lstat. It just really reveals a lot about how

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01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: they see each other. Okay, so some of them. I

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01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: think that's great lyrics. I loved. Okay, so this is

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 3: one versus toward the end, it's another taste, another year,

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: another place, another tear, another chase, another sneer, without a trace,

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 3: you disappear. That's Louis. Pick up the pace, pack up

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01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: the gear, give me some faith, a souvenir. Here come

1573
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 3: the gays, here come the fear. Now we're having fun. Okay,

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 3: give me some face for you. Remember from season one

1575
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: is the phrase Louise when he meets up with his

1576
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 3: old buddy and he gives him head in the woods.

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01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: And I say that exact, clinging to this level of

1578
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: non betrayal at the moment they were openly polymarious, and

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01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 3: he was like, you jaded, bitch. I'm still excited. I

1580
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: really love what Samana has done.

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: I also love.

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, yes, there is already like

1583
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 2: a Genius annotated version of this song on Genius.

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: Seriously fantastic.

1585
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: I would say you could actually add some insight there

1586
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: because they did not catch another face moment.

1587
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think I think this is so cool.

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01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: I think we're onto.

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01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 2: Something very special, and I think season three could be

1590
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: maybe the something with this show to the mainstream, with the.

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01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: Coming to Netflix, and with the Witches show really trying

1592
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 3: to improve its second season, I'm hoping season three is

1593
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: a real banger and that we find more widows. Like

1594
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 3: we talked to Sam, Come and join us. If you

1595
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: haven't already seen this show. It's really good. It's on Netflix,

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 3: I believe, like tomorrow the eighteenth. Let me get that right.

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01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, I think it is going on August eighteen.

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, Joel looks that up. I looked and did

1599
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 7: as best as I could to try to find who

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01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 7: is listed as coms for a long face, It's not

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01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 7: anywhere I can find on the internet. However, Daniel Hart

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01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 7: has done the music for the first time.

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he is doing Sam Reed said he is

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: doing the music for this.

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 7: And so has worked like he's worked with Broken Social Scene,

1606
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 7: Saint Vincent, Polyphonic Squee, like he knows kind of this

1607
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 7: era of indie rock music.

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: So that works that they Yeah, I love that.

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: So August nineteenth, the show will be on Netflix, So

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01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: please go watch it. Delightful and we want to hear

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01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: from you guys, so hit us up on the discord

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01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 3: if you have thoughts about the show.

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01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Joel, Thanks Rosie,