1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My fellow Virginians. Earlier to day, I released a statement 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: apologizing for behavior in my past that falls far short 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: of the standard you set from me when you elected 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: me to be your governor. I believe you deserve to 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: hear directly from me. That photo and the racist and 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: offensive attitudes it represents does not reflect that person I 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: am to day, or the way that I have conducted 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: myself as a soldier, a doctor, and a public servant. 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: I am deeply sorry. I cannot change the decisions I made, 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: nor can I undo the harm my behavior calls then 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: and to day. But I accept responsibility for my past actions, 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: and I am ready to do the hard work of 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: regaining your trust. So there you have Governor of Virginia, Democrat, 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: despite then end listing him as a Republican when this 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: verse broke. Interesting that you have Governor Northam talking about 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: this photo in the year book that came up from 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four from a medical school in Virginia that 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: he attended. Originally apologized, then he said he wasn't sure 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: that it was him in the photo. Now he says 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: he's not in the photo, but he did blackface another time. 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: It's just nonsense. I mean, this is crazy stuff that 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing from the Democrats in a desperate scramble to 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: maintain the governorship of a very important state. Well, I 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: want to bring on somebody who can shed a particular 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: light on what's going on in Virginia and Virginia politics 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: and knows some of these players personally. We are joined 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: down by Bishop E. W. Jackson. He is with us now. 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: He was the GOP nominee for Lieutenant governor in Virginia, 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and he can tell us a bit about his own 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: experiences and his thoughts on this whole matter. Bishop Jackson, 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: All right, So first off I want to ask you, 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, is this at all a surprise nice to 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: you that this has come out about northumb I mean, 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: can I can go back pretty easily and see that 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: Northam was running some very incendiary ads and very clearly 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: going after his opponent, which was at the top of 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: your ticket for the Republican side of things in Virginia, 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: with the accusations of racism. Now it turns out that 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Northam has a racist pass. What do you make of this? Bishop? 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: I may be the one person in the Commonwealth of Virginia, 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: who is not surprised, although anybody was following our race 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: fosely saw that and were shocked that the mainstream media 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: absolutely dismissed it. And we know that had it been 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: a white conservative refusing to shake the hand of a 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: black liberal, it would have been front page news the 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: very next day, and it would have been a major scandal. 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: But I'm not surprised because look, I was on the 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: campaign trail with a man who saw him and had 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to interact with him many times, and I was told, well, 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, He's a Southern gentleman. He is 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the only person that I've ever run against who I 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: found treated me with contempt. And I'd never said anything personal. 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't do that. I don't attack people personally. We 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: kept it strictly on policy, but when he refused to 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: shake my hand for the first time, want to go 57 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: ever running for any office, I thought, you know what, 58 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a bona fide racist, and this man 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: does not want me to touch him. And so this 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: came out and I thought, yep, exactly what I suspected. 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: And now the tickets have come home to roost. Here 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: you are, You're talking about this instant that occurred after debate. 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: You're a well known politician the state of Virginia. You're 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: also a former Marine Corps veteran and a black American 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: who is trying to represent his state, his community, and 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: his fellow Americans. And this guy won't shake your hand. 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: You rightly point out that if you just changed a 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: little bit here in terms of political affiliation, it's a 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: big story. Did the Virginia never mind, the national press 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: pay much attention all the at this guy wouldn't even 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: shake your hand. They paid virtually no attention to it whatsoever. 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I had a lot of republic who and 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: conservatives asked me what was that about? Why would he 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: not shake your hand? And I mean if not as 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: if for people who have seen the take, they can 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: get it on If they haven't seen, they can get 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: it on YouTube. All they got to do is google 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: Northam versus Jackson and handshake or something like that. But 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I reached out and he did not even acknowledge my presence, 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: and so then I tapped him on his arm because 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: see me, And when I did, he absolutely acted as 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: if I was not there. Even at the end of 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the debate, he never looked at me and smiled or 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge me in any way. So yeah, it was definitely 85 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: a really despicable way of behaving. And I'd never seen 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: anybody do anything like that on the campaign trail. And 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: is it it fair to say that the way that 88 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: Northam ran against Gillespie, who was a well known guy 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: in Republican circles, and look, I know a lot of 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: people that know ed and they all say he's also 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: just really a really nice guy and a good guy. 92 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: And the Northam's campaign trashed him as a racist. Well 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: I know ed too. I had attempted to that it 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: is a nice guy. Northam portrayed him as a racist, 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: basically a child predator who was out hunting down kids 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: in a pickup truck with a Confederate flag on the 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: bat and has minority kids running and panic that this 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: man is about to get them. And this was how 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: he depicted ed Gillessie as a racist child predator. I 100 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: mean it was so despicable that I when it, I 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: just thought, you know, that is beneath contempt. And he'll say, oh, 102 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: well that wasn't really me. But he didn't did announce 103 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: it either. He didn't say there's no place for that 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of rhetoric or communications in politics. He was happy 105 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: to indorse it with his silence, if not with his approval. 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't even want to hear it. This 107 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: got to me and you know, and the thing is, 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: to me, let represents the dirty little secret of the 109 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Democrat Party, which is they use race to try to 110 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: sneer Republicans, to smear conservatives, and to manipulate black people. 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: But behind the scenes, the very thing they're accusing others 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: of is a very thing that Stayed themselves are guilty of. 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Bishop Earl Walker Jackson, who is a 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: politician who was the lieutenant governor on the lieutenant governor 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: ticket rather running with Ed Gillespie against Northam and also 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: against the current Lieutenant governor of Virginia, Justin Fairfax, who 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: has also gotten into some hot water in the last 118 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: couple of days. So I want to ask you, Bishop, 119 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, here we have an allegation of sexual assault 120 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: from a while ago, about fifteen years ago, I believe. 121 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Washington Post says that they were approached with this and 122 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: they refused to run it because they couldn't verify it. 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Now that's the same Washington Post that ran with a 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: lot of stories about Brett Kavanaugh. I want to know 125 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: what you think about this allegation. How should we How 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: should the people of Virginia and across the country gauge 127 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: this allegation against Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax, also a Democrat 128 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: African American at the bottom of the ticket with Northam. 129 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: What do you think we should do about this Lieutenant governor. Well, 130 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't want to make this about me, 131 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: but just to point out the double standards when they 132 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: were investigating me, and they did extensively when I was 133 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: running against out Ralph Northams. They ran bad stories and speculated, well, 134 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: we can't verify all of this, but we think you 135 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: all ought to know because we think the man is 136 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: a liar. We think there's something wrong with him. So 137 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: so this mindset that they had, I mean, I say 138 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: that they've investigated Ralph Northam at the depth to which 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: they investigated me, he would have never have been elected. 140 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I would have been elected Lieutenant governor. I believe that. 141 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: But nevertheless, yet the look Democrats are are great at hypocrisy. 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know whether these allegations are true or not. True, 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: but there is a power within the Democrat Party for 144 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: doing the very things that they accuse others of doing 145 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: in order to further their own political agenda and quest 146 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: for power. So we'll see what this all proves to be. 147 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to come to a conclusion yet, but 148 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: it would not surprise me because if Democrats are expert 149 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: at anything, if Liberals are expert at anything, it is hypocrisy. 150 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: Can I ask you, can ask you, Bishop, what kind 151 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: of for the folks listening across the country, what kind 152 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: of media hostility, and what kind of oppo research from 153 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the media and from groups that are hired specifically to 154 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: do oppo research? What kind of stuff were you up 155 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: against running for lieutenant African American Republican would be lieutenant 156 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: governor in the state of Virginia. And look, I say 157 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: all the time, I owe my country a great deal. 158 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I love this country, and so I don't tap myself 159 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: on the back like you know, I'm some great somebody. 160 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: But but I started as a foster child. I grew 161 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: up in a poverty and what the Washington Post did, 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: what the mainstream media did, they never gave me any 163 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: credit for having gone from back to Harvard Law School, 164 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: having practice law, having nothing, They went and investigated my background. 165 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: They tried to prove that my so called foster care 166 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: was a middle class home, that it really did have 167 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: an indoor bassroom, and it did not, and it was 168 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: not a middle class home. They tried to prove that 169 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't gone to Harvard Divinity School. They tried to 170 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: prove that I'd never been a chaplain for the Red Sox. 171 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: They went about their business trying to disprove my background, 172 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: to show that I was not sort of a Horatio 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: Alger story, somebody who started for nothing and had made 174 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: something of himself. They were trying to tear me down 175 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: for every turn. That's what I faced. You know what 176 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: Ralph Norton faced. He faced puff pieces that about how 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: great he was and know it the compassion and he's 178 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: a great pediatrician. They didn't talk about his radical views 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: on a portion. They didn't say anything about this stuff 180 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: that I believe they probably used that. I just don't 181 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: believe if they could investigate me that way, they either 182 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: knew or they simply chose not to know what Ralph 183 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Northam had really did and what he really was. Bishop 184 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Jackson before we let you go. Should Ralph Northam resign, Yes, absolutely, 185 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: he would resign. Look, we're not going to get any 186 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: bargain in justin Fairfax by any stretch of the imagination. 187 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: He's got his own problems. He's another race vader as 188 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. I saw him do it in 189 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: then LG campaign against Joe Bogol accused her of racism 190 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: because she questioned his experience. Well that's you know, I mean, 191 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: that's a fair question. Do you have the experience to 192 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: be the head of the state Senate and so forth? 193 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: But oh that was a racial play. So but you 194 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: know what, Ralph Northam doesn't deserve to beat to sit 195 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: in the seat that Patrick Henry and Thomas Jefferson. There's 196 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: so many other illustrious leaders to set in. He needs 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: to go. All right, Bishop, we really appreciate your time. 198 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Oh, thank you, 199 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: God bless