1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: We have a treat for you today because you have 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: all seen this kind of faith and culture battleground going 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: on in our country right now. And I'm sure a 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 2: lot of you have heard the story of Bevelyn B. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Williams. She is the woman who was arrested for protesting. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: At one of the abortion clinics, and we get to 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: have her on today so that we can hear her story. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: She was actually put in jail by the Biden Harris 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: administration and pardoned. And you have a new movie, and 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: there's just all this great stuff going on, which is 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: a testimony to Christ and his leading. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: So tell us your story, and thank you for being here. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 3: Hi, thank you. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 4: For having me, and thank you for giving me an 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: opportunity to just share. I mean, it's a surreal story and. 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: I just I thank God that I made it through that. 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: It was probably one of the most traumatic things I've 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: ever experienced in my life, but it was worth it. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: And if I go a one time, I do it again. 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: So I start from the super duper. 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: Beginning, but I can at least say I could start 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: from like twenty nineteen. 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about really quick. 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to have you on today because you do 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: have a film coming out about it, and that is 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: extremely exciting. It's called Pardon Me, The Bevelyn B. Williams Story, 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: So that's going to be coming out on August fifteenth, 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: and I just want to say that as I was 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: preparing for this podcast and reading your story, I was 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: excited because I think that this is the behind the 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: scenes story of your life. Is the story that people 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: don't know. You know, they see the images on TV. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: They see the story of Okay, you know, you're going 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: into to jail, you have a little girl, you have 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: a husband that's waiting outside. But the journey that got 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: you there, to me, the journey of faith and how 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: God worked in your life, is so incredibly powerful. Is 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: something that I think young people need to hear. Because 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: when you were talking, I know you had that long 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: testimony that you have on the website out there, but 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: when you were talking about what you thought growing up, 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: that was the most impactful part to me because you 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: said you had a life that was very challenging and 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: then you were told by your dad that guys only 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: want one thing, and it shaped sort of how you 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: saw the world and then God turned that around. 48 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: That to me is amazing. So tell us a little 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: bit about that. 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Right, So you want to go all the way back 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: to when I was a kid. 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: I mean I kind of think that without hearing how 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: you have gone. 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Through this yourself. 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you've had abortions, and that to me is 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: incredibly powerful because I think so I've talked to so 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: many women who have had an abortion and felt like 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 2: I don't have value. Now look at what that has 59 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: done in your life to create a warrior. 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I love that. 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Actually, I think that's amazing because, well, what I say 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: is this, in twenty nineteen, when Governor Culum Will had 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: legalized abortion, that's when I really decided to and I'm 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: saying this for a reason, that's when I really decided, 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: you know, it's an issue and I need to address it. 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: But a lot of the circle backs of my childhood 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 4: happened from me being obedient to that moment. 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: And what I. 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: Can say is my first abortion was when I was fifteen. Okay, 70 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: my dad at the time, I think he was trying 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: to protect me. I don't think he understood the fullness 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: of what it means to get an abortion and I 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: don't think I was or he was prepared for the depression. 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: And just like the turmoil that comes with making such 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: a big decision like that to remove a kid out 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: of your but when you do something like that, there 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: is trauma that comes behind it. No matter how much 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: the law wants to make it normal, it's not normal 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: because it's traumatic. So now while I'm in front of 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: the abortion clinics and I'm preaching, and I got all 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: this raw raw and me, I remember getting a flashback 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: of the day I had my first abortion, and I 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: remember those people were in front of that clinic. I 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: didn't understand why they were there. They seemed angry, and 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 4: I was told to look down and not look at them. 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: And fast forward here I am in twenty nineteen doing 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: the exact same thing they were doing. But the heart was, 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm a witness, like God was there 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 4: for me even when I was lost and I didn't 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: know what I was doing, and I was just so 91 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 4: oblivious to all the different facets of demonic forces around 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: just that I'm just falling into because I wasn't protected. 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: I can say I know what it's like to be 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: a child that's not protected. And I have a three 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: year old, so I am such a guardian over her 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: and me and my husband both because he has felt 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 4: like he wasn't protected as well. You want to guard. 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: You want to be a guard to a child's spiritual journey. 99 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: You want to be a guard to their personality. You 100 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: want to be a guard to everything that God has 101 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: has for them, because if you don't, you're left vulnerable, 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: You're left feeling insignificant. You might end up having sex 103 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: at an early age because you don't feel that connection 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: with your father, or you may become a doormat because 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: of the abuse or mental abuse you get from your 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: mother or the manipulation. So if those things aren't protected, 107 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: you're gonna end up at an abortion clinic. That's just 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: the reality, you know. And so I lived it, and 109 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 4: now here I am being delivered, saved and now doing it, 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: and I'm realizing, wow, oh my gosh, if someone like 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: me could be in that position, that gives really, honestly 112 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 4: no excuse to any other woman in this world. 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 3: You could end up growing up like a statistic like 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: me having three abortions, not one, not two, three. 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: But still at some point my eyes being opened and 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: willing to just be a voice because I've been. 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: There and I think that is a very key point 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: that you just made. Let's take a quick commercial break. 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast. When we 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: talk about abortion in this country, when conservatives are people 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: of faith talk about abortions, we have said, you have 122 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: to understand this is not just the terrible statistic. These 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: are women who are convinced to have abortion after abortion 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: after abortion, and these clinics are making a massive amount 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: of money off of the fact that you have a 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: young woman who has three abortions. Your story is not unusual. 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: That's the I think that's the tragedy here. And you 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: knew that, you knew that that you realize this is 129 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: a sad situation, and somebody guided you through that, and 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: here you are. God uses people, he says, this is 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: this tragedy will not go unseen and unchanged. You are 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: now the person speaking your testimony into other people's lives 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: to change that right. 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 4: Right, you know, I will say this, I never got 135 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: so caught up in the things that I was doing 136 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: wrong that I thought that. 137 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: They were right. 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: Like, I'm a very real person, okay, and number one 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: for me is being real with self the biggest thing 140 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: in the world. If you don't know how to be 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: real with self, you're going to have a hard time 142 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: in life because if you can't come to a conclusion 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: with yourself about certain things you're doing, the world is 144 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: unfortunately going to come to a conclusion for you. 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: And that's the last thing you want, right. 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: So that was kind of the warning you got, was like, 147 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna end up dead if you keep a living this. 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: Right, right. 149 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: But it was easy for me to receive because I 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: never thought abortion was okay. 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: I never thought okay because it's legal, it's okay, and 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: it's normal. 153 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: So even in my sin, you know what I'm saying, 154 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: If I'm out with my friends and we drinking and 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: we smoking, and I'm having sex with men that I 156 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: am not married to, I'm clearly. 157 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Not walking a Christian walk. I'm clearly not walking a 158 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: holy walk. 159 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 4: So I never and my mom was like, oh, well, 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: it's legal, so I'm doing what's the right thing. 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: No, I was aware that I was living wrong. 162 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: So when that woman came to me and said to me, 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: if you don't change, you're gonna. 164 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: Die, I knew where I was going. 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: I knew that if I died in this state that 166 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: I am, she didn't have to tell me. 167 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: I knew I was going to hell. I knew that. 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: So it was so easy for me to say, you 169 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: know what, let me go ahead, straighten up, because I 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: know I'm wrong. She's telling me, she's confirming what's already known. 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: I believe we live in a society today where, because 172 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: of social media and because of the way people talk 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: and people like to talk in circles rather than just 174 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 4: get straight to the point, everything seems to be these circles. 175 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: Nothing's never just black and white no more, everything's gray. 176 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: Because of that gray, there's no longer platform. 177 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: To just be real. Yes, you're young, you want to live, 178 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: you want to have fun, but the reality is it's wrong. 179 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: It's wrong, right. And so that's what. 180 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: Has really pivoted my faith, and it's pivoted me to 181 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: be the woman that I am today because I never 182 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: allowed the enemy to get me so deceived that I'm 183 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: just now living a lot. 184 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: So you changed your life kind of like it was 185 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: like a one eighty from where you were because you 186 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: were on that path of partying and having sex with 187 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: multiple different men and had you had three abortions in 188 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: that time frame. And I think what you said about 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: the effect of the abortion is probably the most powerful testimony, 190 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: because I don't think a lot of people are willing 191 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: to say some have some people have come out and said, boy, 192 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: this really emotionally damaged me. 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: And that's the thing in this world. You talk about 194 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the black and white and the gray area. 195 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, the gray area, I mean, I think a lot 196 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: of times people are too black and white. It's either 197 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: abortion is good, abortion is bad, and the gray area 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: is that's that place where you say, you know what, 199 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: I had an abortion and there was a lot of 200 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: pain that came along with it. And it's not a 201 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: welcome comment to I mean, the left certainly is not 202 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: going to allow you to come out and say there 203 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: was pain that came. 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: Along with that, and it is. 205 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: It is something that I think that we have to 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: face the reality that this is happening in minority communities 207 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: at higher rates than it's happening in other communities, and 208 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: that means that that pain is traveling through communities and 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: going unnoticed and going un uncounseled, and that to me 210 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: is a devastating situation, right. 211 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll look at it like this. 212 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: When it comes to the black community and even other 213 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: minority communities, the chunk of abortions that we take up 214 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: is not normal. 215 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: Right. 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: But a lot of times I find we're looking at 217 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: abortion and I mean, listen, I'm the one who stood 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 4: off fron abortion clinic. Right, we look at abortion as 219 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: an issue. But for me, it's like why. And that's 220 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: the part I'm getting to. People knew me as this 221 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: person standing in front of an abortion clinic. 222 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: But now, how did I get there? Why was I 223 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: there three times? 224 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: What's the there's a bridge that landed me to this place? 225 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: And it's like this unspoken thing we're not talking about. 226 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: Lay You're so right, But that's that's what we always do. 227 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: We focus on one part of We focus on the after. 228 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: How did you get there? 229 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: Right? Right? So now let's talk about the music. 230 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: Okay, let's talk about the women nowadays. I and this 231 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: is just from personal experience. I know women in my 232 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 4: culture and I'm sure it's in other cultures too, but 233 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 4: i'mnna speak specifically online. 234 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: They do not know how to be beautiful. All they 235 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: know is sex, a pill, everything about your powerful state 236 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: sex and if it's not sex is violence. Right, Once 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: upon a time, and Charleston White said this. People think 238 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: he's crazy, and I think he's a trip. But sometimes he. 239 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: Dropped jewels that be like, you know what, I gotta 240 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: I gotta take that. 241 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: He said, you know, there was a. 242 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: Time where women were beautiful when it came outside. Even 243 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: if you were a bunch of men thugs, you straightened 244 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: up real quick. You see, you see a lady, you 245 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: would treat a woman like a lady. It's as if 246 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: that culture is gone. Now I'm on social media. I 247 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: watch women and men fighting like cats and dogs in 248 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: the streets and women are outside butts hanging out, boobs 249 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: out in a dude's face like it's like it's chaos 250 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: to the point that the Femen and the lady that 251 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: God called women to. 252 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: Be you don't see it like that. And then the 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: other extreme. 254 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: Is you're so religious you walk around with a plastic 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: bag on because you're holy, you know. 256 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: What I'm saying. So it's like that there's no clarity there. 257 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: You know. 258 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: So now sex a pillas, what's more important? Right? And 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: hip hop? 260 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: It's all about sex. It's all about these things that 261 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: I said it to my cousin. I was talking to him, 262 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 4: and I was like, he was like, you know, sometimes 263 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: women want to do it just like men. I said, well, 264 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: let me explain something to you. Women are very insecure. 265 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: Women will shape themselves to appease what they feel is 266 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: pleasing to a man when they don't have a man 267 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: to tell them who they are, when they don't have 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: a father to teach them who they are. Right, So, 269 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: if I don't have a daddy in the house and 270 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't even know how to communicate with the man 271 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 4: outside of sexual encounters, right, how. 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: Am I going to know? 273 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 4: You know? 274 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: If I hear a hip hop song and he said, 275 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: you know, she let me hear it on the first night, 276 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: it was firing. He's bragging about it, like good thing. 277 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: This young girl's gonna listen to this music and think, oh, okay, Well, 278 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: if I let him get it on first night, then 279 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: you know he gonna think I'm lit. If I do 280 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: it like this, he gonna do, Oh she she will 281 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 4: booty type big boots, big way, small booty big. 282 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: So now I guess what's happening. Bbls Lip's done. It's 283 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: just it's so much that is leading towards the abortion clinic. 284 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: The chop shot. 285 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: It's going on and so young. 286 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: These girls are being pushed on. I mean, I see 287 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: it with I have four daughters, so I see it 288 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: with even my daughter. They go to a Christian school 289 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: in a small town in Michigan. And at graduation, eighth 290 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: grade graduation, even this, even at the stores that are 291 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: geared toward middle schoolers, the dresses are so short. Everything 292 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: is sexy. Like you said, she was the only girl 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: that wore a long dress. And I said, and I 294 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: said to her, I had parents come up to me 295 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: and say, hey, thank you, And I said, she chose 296 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: the dress and she said, Mom. The next day at school, 297 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: the teacher said, thank you for dressing like that. And 298 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,239 Speaker 2: it's hard because they have it's pushed on them constantly, 299 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: sex appeal, sex appeal, sexpial and like you said, the 300 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: lip injections, the change your face, change who you are. 301 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: You are not good enough. God didn't make you the 302 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: way you should be. You have to improve on that. 303 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: And that, like your eyes were open to this, and 304 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: that's when you became the person on the other side 305 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: and that and I think that's where the movie picks up, right. 306 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: It's like you're on the other side and then. 307 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: Suddenly It's interesting because it seems like the pro woman 308 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: group of politicians in the country, they suddenly decided that 309 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: pro life is not pro woman, and you were arrested. 310 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: Right. 311 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: I think what the movie displays is not just a 312 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: story or a testimony of being a Christian and being bold. 313 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: It also exposes real racism. It really does. I remember 314 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: saying to the judge that I felt like a Negro 315 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: out of line during my centizen and I felt like 316 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: I told the judge, I said, you know, if I 317 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: was half naked and I was jumping around, twirling and 318 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: shaking my behind, you guys would applaud me, you would 319 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: celebrate me. But because I am standing here with my 320 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: husband and my baby, and I am standing in the 321 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: gap for a community who has been led astray by 322 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: the deceiver, you guys are wanting to shut me up. 323 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: And her response to me was throwing me in jail 324 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: for three and a half years, and by the grace 325 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: of God, Trump signed my pardon. So the movie shows 326 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: a person who was a statistic who God opened their 327 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: eyes to see and gave them the courage to stand 328 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: on their eyes being open and seeing the truth. But 329 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: then at the same time because of that, watching the 330 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: system come down on them so heavy and giving them 331 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: the fullness of what they could give them without any remark, 332 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 4: the ruthlessness of it, you know. And so for me, 333 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: it's like this story is going to expose so much 334 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 4: the judge, I'm going to give you intel that I 335 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: haven't spoken on any interview yet, but I'm gonna give 336 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 4: it to you. 337 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: Okay, when I got pardoned, I had already. 338 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: Been a repellent court waiting for me to appeal my case, 339 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: and then Trump pardoned me, and Trump becoming president, he. 340 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: Basically took over everything. 341 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: He took over the FBI, anything federal, He basically cleared 342 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: it out with his people. So now my lawyer had 343 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: requested that my charges be vacated. I'm pardoned, but really 344 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: these are beefed up there, These are silly charges. 345 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: This needs to be vacated. 346 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 4: The government agreed to vacate, and so then after they 347 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 4: signed it, they sent it up to appellent court. And 348 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: because the government agreed to it, a pellant couldn't go 349 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 4: rogue on what the government is agreeing to since they 350 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: were the ones who initiated the charges Underbiden administration. 351 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: So the appellent Court then was like, all right. 352 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: Listen, we're gonna go ahead and sign off for her, 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: and we're gonna vacate these charges. 354 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: And now, the very. 355 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: Judge Jennifer Roshan who sentenced me to forty one months 356 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: and mocked me for my faith, she told me she 357 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 4: looked me in my face and she said, I know 358 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 4: you have a beautiful three year old daughter, and you 359 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: know and I know your stay at home mom, but 360 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: it seems like you have a lot of support because 361 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 4: of all of these letters that came in for you, 362 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: So I feel like she'll be fine. 363 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: This was her response to me before she sentenced me, 364 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: and it's in the movie. Okay, But what's not in 365 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: the movie. 366 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: Is that the case was vacated by appellate court and 367 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: she's supposed to sign so that I can travel because 368 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: even though you're pardon, you still are not able to 369 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: travel to London with a federal felony and you're not 370 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: able to travel to Canada. Those things have to be 371 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: vacated as if it never happened. It has been over 372 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: a month and a half she has not signed it. Wow, 373 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: So she has chosen and at this point it's spiteful, 374 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 4: but to not even respect the court higher than her 375 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: to go ahead and sign off on the vacated charges. 376 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: This is how spiteful. 377 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 2: This is well coming from someone who's experienced what that is. 378 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: So that's what I think. That's the important part of 379 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: this movie. And the movie is going to be out 380 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: in theaters on August fifteenth, so and that's across the country, 381 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: right right. 382 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: That's of course. 383 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: So we are waiting now to hear back from AMC. 384 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: Prayers up that they will release it. They played Unplanned, Okay, 385 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: AMC was the only theater that played Unplanned, So I'm expecting, 386 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 4: I'm hoping and praying they will say yes to us. 387 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: We also have mom and Pop theaters that are releasing us. 388 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: But also if AMC does, that will kind of make 389 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: it a lot easier for those who don't know any 390 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: Mama Pop theaters in the area. 391 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: So we'll know that this week, but definitely on the fifteenth. 392 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: It is coming out, and we're just excited you guys 393 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: to go and see this because I really my prayer 394 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 4: for this movie is that I can bridge the gap 395 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: between pro lifers who obviously are pro life and don't 396 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 4: want to see children murdered. 397 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: But also I want to give them a better. 398 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: Insight into the background of people before they land at 399 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: that clinic, what they go through, so we can bridge 400 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: this gap of cultural understanding as well as. 401 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: A cultural renewal. 402 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: Right, we want to understand the past, right, but we 403 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 4: want to also renew the future. And I want to 404 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: be that girl that these young women see, whether they're black, white, 405 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: Latino doesn't matter that Wow, if she can be brought 406 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: this way right watching my mom's snort coke and be 407 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: abusive and different men in the house, I can come 408 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: from that to this that you can do it too. 409 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: And also just an understanding of that. 410 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: When I was campaigning, I had people say to me, 411 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter how many times you visit 412 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: our community unless there are people around you that have 413 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 2: lived whether it's in Southeast Michigan or southwest Michigan or 414 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: northern Michigan. Unless you have people around you, If you 415 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: haven't lived it, you cannot really understand it. And I 416 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: think that's true, and that's why watching it and getting 417 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: and having this recreation in a movie. 418 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Movies are so important. They tell stories. 419 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 2: So many people learn history and stories through storytelling and 420 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: that's movies. Movies are storytelling. That's the importance of Pardon me. 421 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: And I want people to know that you are going 422 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: to even if you are a strong Christian conservative who 423 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: has always opposed abortion, you are going to have a 424 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: different understanding of that choice after you watch this movie. 425 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: Right Amen. 426 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: I am so grateful you came on today, Bevelyn B. Williams. 427 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast. 428 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me absolutely, and thank you all 429 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 2: for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 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