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Indeed, we do big news 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: breaking Just this morning, it looks like there is a 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: tentative deal to at least temporarily prevent a rail strike 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: or full rail lockout. So we've got some details there 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you about everything that is going 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: on there as well. Also, Centator Lindsay Graham throwing the 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Republican Caucus into some disarray, some further disarray by going 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: forward with a fifteen week abortion band at the federal 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: level that conflicts with some of their messaging. So we've 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: got all the political dynamics and the minor meltdown going 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: on over there for you as well. Also, we have 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: some really actually very disturbing news regarding inflation, which is 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: that the Fed may use these latest inflation numbers to 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: justify a full percentage point hike. But the reason I'm 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: chuckling is also because we have in the same day 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: that the bad inflation numbers come out and the market 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: tanks and whatever binds out there like things are great. 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: It is one of the most hilarious split screens. You'll 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: have to see it. Yeah, it didn't work out well 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: for him there. We also have some new midterm numbers, 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: both in the Pennsylvania race also nationally, and we have 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: to share with you this video that was shared by 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: the La Unified School District, which is I think the 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: largest school district in the country. Were pretty sure certainly 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: one of the largest. Anyway, they used this lady who 39 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: was like a representative of the company that makes Oreos 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: and all kinds of other jug mondolar apps to use 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: like social justice language to try to claim that, oh, 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: all food is equal and eating a cookie is just 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: as good as eating broccoli. It's so evil. Honestly, there's 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: no other word for it, is straight up evil. Got 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: those details for you. Sager is looking into the case 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: of Columbia University fudging their statistics so that they can 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: get a better ranking. I am looking into maybe the 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: craziest story I have ever dug into, which is this 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: massive welfare fraud scandal that involves Brett Farv getting millions 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: of dollars from the state of Mississippi, again from the 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: welfare fund intended for poor people. Brett Favre is getting 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: millions of dollars to build a volleyball stadium for his 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: daughter Nuts. We also have Ryan grimmin Emily Jishinski here 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: Counterpoints launches tomorrow. They're going to give us a little 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: bit of preview. Very excited about that, and with regards 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: to that, we have a little discount for you. That's right, okay, 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: ten percent off on the annual discount to celebrate that 58 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: launch and to continue funding our expansion. For all of 59 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: you who have signed up already. Thank you all so 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: so much. We deeply appreciate it. As we said, look, 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: we know the economy is tough. We're covering inflation here 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: as well, so it means the world many other sources 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: of revenue or let's just say unpredictable up and down 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: as to whether YouTube decides how you're doing or not 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: based completely upon a whim. The only people we can 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: ever count on is you. And to that end, as 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: we've said, we're doing another show. Let's put this up 68 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: there on the screen. Chicago. Today is the very last 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: day for pre sale for premium members, so as we've promised, 70 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: all premium members always get the pre sale at least 71 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days in order to buy the best seats. 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: In Chicago. It's selling quite well, so if you want 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: to go ahead and buy your tickets, if you're going 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: to be in the area. As we said, this is 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: going to be the flagship Midwest show, So if you 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: are in the area, I highly recommend that you go 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: ahead and buy tickets to this because the odds are 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: we're probably not coming to any other cities in your vicinity. 79 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: No offense to all of you, we absolutely would love to, 80 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: but as I've said, the economics on these things are 81 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: difficult to figure out, So go ahead and buy your tickets. Otherwise, 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: tickets will go on sale tomorrow to the general public, 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: and we'll have a link in the description on all 84 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: of our videos going forward. But that's enough administrative. Let's 85 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: catch to the show. Indeed, So as I said before, 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: it looks like we at least have a tentative deal 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: that may for the short term, maybe not permanently, we'll 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: see avert a rail strike or a rail lock out. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: So we've been covering this for a while. Let's give 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: you a little bit of the backstory and then I'll 91 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: tell you what we know about the deal. Go ahead 92 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: and put this first part up on the screen. So 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: negotiations have been ongoing for close to three years at 94 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: this point. Railroad workers have been really screwed during the 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: pandemic and post pandemic because these railroad companies are making 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: record breaking profits, but they laid off a significant chunk 97 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: of their workforce and they're forcing their current workers to 98 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: really shoulder the burden. That is meant is that they've 99 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: had these incredibly onerous schedules and they don't have things 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: like the ability to just take a day to go 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: to the doctor when they have routine medical appointments, they 102 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: don't have sick time off, and unlike you know a 103 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: lot of regular jobs, they don't get weakend. So when 104 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: they're saying we don't get time off, they mean like 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: literally no days off, incredibly incredibly onerous schedule. So the 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: railroad labor relations is governed by specific law, so they 107 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: couldn't just strike. There's a whole process they have to 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: go through. One key part of that process happened a 109 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: couple months ago present by an intervened with this presidential board. 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: They put together a set of recommendations that was supposed 111 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: to be a kind of metal ground, but it completely 112 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: punted on that key issue of time off. So it 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: had some decent wage provisions in it, but on those 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: key sort of quality of life issues that workers were 115 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: really stressed down over, it had nothing to say. So 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: that deal basically sided with the bosses. The workers themselves 117 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly opposed to it. There's a number of different unions 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: that represent these workers throughout the industry. So some of 119 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: the union bosses had said, you know, we're okay with 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: the presidential board recommendations. When the members went to vote, 121 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: they said no, no, no, no, we're not, So you 122 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: had the bulk of workers still saying we are not 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: satisfied with this deal, and it was really coming down 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: to the wire. The deadline was this Friday, so this 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: was really imminent coming up this week where they either 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: had to strike a deal or then the rail workers 127 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: would be able to either go on a strike or 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the carriers could lock them out of their jobs. And 129 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: there were some signs of carriers were moving towards that 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: they already started to slow downs or things long distance routes, etc. 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: The last piece of this before I get into some 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: of the details of what the purported deal is or 133 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: a tentative deal here, is that there is a provision 134 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: that also allows Congress to intervene to prevent a work 135 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: stoppage by basically cramming down a contract on both the 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: workers and on the railroad companies. Now, the expectation was 137 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: that if Congress intervenes, they would probably just pick up 138 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: that recommendations from the Presidential Board, which again basically sided 139 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: with the bosses and did nothing regarding the workers' key 140 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: demands and needs. Republicans made a big push yesterday to 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: try to get that proposal through and force this bad 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: deal upon workers who would then be bound by it legally. 143 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: President Biden has been personally involved, and his Labor Secretary, 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Marty Walsh, has been really leading conversations and talks between 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: union leaders and between the railroad companies to try to 146 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: strike some sort of a deal, and in fact, this 147 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: morning reporting is that there has been a breakthrough. Now, 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: as I said, we know very little about what this 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: tentative deal is, and there's a lot of reasons to 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: be cautious about this and to avoid premature celebration because ultimately, 151 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: even though this is a deal between the bosses and 152 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: the union leadership, the rank and file workers are going 153 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to have a say yes. And they were over like 154 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: eighty percent overwhelmingly opposed to the previous recommendations. So this 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: would have to be significantly better than what Presidence Biden's 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: board came up with before for them to agree to that. 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: But at the very least, there's a sixty day what 158 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: they call cooling off period in which they sort of 159 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: go through the deal, sell it to their members, and 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: the members get to decide whether they're going to ratify 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: this agreement or not. If they don't, then we're kind 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of back to the drawing board and facing down a 163 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: similar deadline. Let me tell you what. Jeff Stein, who 164 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: has some reporting from behind the scenes about some of 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: the details here. He says, people familiar tell me the 166 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: deal does give real workers ability to take days off 167 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: for medical care without being subject to punishment. That was 168 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: a key demand of the unions. He also says that 169 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: President Biden was personally animated by the need to get 170 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: this done. Further reporting says workers will receive voluntary assigned 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: days off and single additional paid day off they previously 172 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: did not receive sick days. Let that sink in, and 173 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: the agreement members with the ability to take unpaid days 174 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: to go to their routine medical appointments for medical care 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: without being subject to attendance policy. So that's what we 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: know at this point. Yeah, I mean a lot of 177 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: the piss covers are this pissed me off? Oh, it 178 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: seemed as if they were being you know, unreasonable. And 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are black pilled because 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: of the way the teachers' unions acted during COVID. Listen, 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: these put these things completely separate, as like in crazy 182 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: teachers unions being COVID crazy is not the same as 183 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: guys who were actually getting fired and disciplined for getting COVID, right, 184 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: they had COVID and they were like, I literally either 185 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: got fired from my job or face discipline. Same with 186 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: getting the flu in other cases. I mean, these are 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: not unreasonable expectations, like if you don't get a single 188 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: day off, like how is your body supposed to recover? 189 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: And then whenever you get pretty sick, especially you know, 190 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: if you have COVID and you need to be out 191 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of days, you actually face a penalty 192 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: for reporting that when it's not like you want to 193 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: get your other coworkers sick, Like, regardless of whether you're 194 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: going to die or not, it's just very unpleasant to 195 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: be sick. The other point that I would hearing was, 196 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: by the way, don't we all remember that crazy rail 197 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: crash that happened a couple of years ago in which 198 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: the rail driver was accelerating too often and apparently was 199 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: tired on the job and it killed a couple of people. 200 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: Like do you want somebody who was underslept, no day off, 201 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: that's right, and sick behind the wheel of a passenger 202 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: or even freight. I mean, I just looked up twenty 203 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: eight percent of freight in this country moves by rail, 204 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: and a tremendous amount of that is not just cargo 205 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: like retail goods. A lot of it is like iron ore, steel, gas. 206 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a key thing to keep our economy 207 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: and all that. We're about to get into some of that. 208 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, the demands of these guys was really being 209 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: overlooked I think in a lot of the media coverage. 210 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: And I also the Republicans handled themselves disgracefully in this 211 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,119 Speaker 1: way because they were acting if they were being unreasonable. 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: Again citing teachers unions, I'm like, it's not this, not 213 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: every obviously, not every union is the same, but look 214 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: at the a My always thing is look at the specifics. 215 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think they were acting crazy. If the 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: teachers unions in this case, I'm like, I look at this, 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: guys are getting sick behind multi ton freight, Like that's 218 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: just crazy. Yeah, this is good for no one. I Mean. 219 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: The thing that I just kept coming back to is 220 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: because before they struck this tentative deal, the freight carriers 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: were engaging in basically economic warfare, throwing their weight around, 222 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: trying to they really their position was they wanted Congress 223 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: to intervene because they knew if Congress would intervene, and 224 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: this is what Republicans were pushing yesterday, that they would 225 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: end up with the deal from the Presidential Board. Those recommendations, 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: which completely screwed workers again, did not address their key 227 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: concerns at all. And we covered it at the time, 228 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: and by the way, I think it's really important to 229 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: take a look around at which outlets were actually covering this. 230 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: We're covering it accurately, we're covering it before you know, 231 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: the last two seconds, and that weren't just talking to 232 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: like whatever it's called the Rail Carriers Association or whatever 233 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that represents the bosses, but actually had the voices of 234 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: the workers. I mean, we had Maximilian Alvarez on here 235 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: this week, he was talking to some of the workers. 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: He's obviously with the real news. You have the labor outlets, 237 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Labor Notes. In these times, Jack Bin have been on 238 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: top of this story. The mainstream press they were asleep 239 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: at the wheel. I mean they didn't even notice that 240 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: this was going on until literally two days ago, and 241 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: then the coverage was so slanted. They didn't mention in 242 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these pieces. They didn't mention at all 243 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: what the workers demands were. They didn't have the workers' 244 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: voices in their pieces at all, and so the impression 245 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: you come away with could very easily be like, oh 246 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: my god, they're just like willing to risk the economy 247 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: so carelessly, when in fact they've been engaged in negotiations 248 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: for years and their demands are so incredibly basic and reasonable. 249 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: And then you look at these companies that are making 250 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: record breaking profits BNSF, owned by Warren Buffett, and you're 251 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: willing to shut down the entire economy because you don't 252 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: want to give your workers a freaking paids like unpaid 253 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: sick day. That's not they're even asking for paid, unpaid 254 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: sick day that they could go and go to doctor's appointments. 255 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: Like you're willing to shut down the economy just to 256 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: keep your worker's nose to the grindstone and make sure 257 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: they are completely just crushed under this onerous work burden 258 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: again as you are making record breaking profits, completely grotesque behavior. 259 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: There is a tweet thread that laid out some of 260 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: this context that I think is important to remember even 261 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: as we have this tentative deal. Go ahead and put 262 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: this tweet thread up on the screen. This is Jeff Shirky. 263 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with as the possible rail strike 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: lockout gains more national attention, some important context. Number one 265 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: bargaining start in January twenty twenty. Workers have been waiting 266 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: nearly three years for a new contract. Class one railroads 267 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: have slashed their workforce by twenty nine percent in the 268 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: past six years while making record profits. So again, they 269 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: cut their workforce and they're forcing the workers to shoulder 270 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: all the burden. Presidential Emergency Board that we've been referring 271 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: to was supposed to propose a fair settlement to avert 272 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: a strike. It ignored key bargaining issues of the unions 273 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: that reach tentative agreements based on those recommendings. Two, once 274 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they put it to the membership actually rejected those agreements. 275 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: That's what I mentioned before. And the last thing he 276 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: says here is the Railway Labor Act is designed to 277 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: prevent strikes. So the fact that it has gotten this 278 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: far shows you have truly truly pissed off the workers 279 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: are the next piece. This is now a little bit 280 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: data now that we have a tentative agreement, But go 281 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: and put this political piece up. They talk about in 282 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: this piece. How the fact that a couple of the 283 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: unions that look like they had resolved their disputes then 284 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: the members were like, no, we reject this. That put 285 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: more pressure ultimately here on the White House. Let's go 286 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: ahead to the next piece again. This is what I 287 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: was referring to with regards to the Republican Senators. They 288 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: sought to advance legislation at four pm yesterday to avert 289 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: looming rail strike by forcing an actment of Presidential Board 290 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: recommendations if the unions and carriers can't meet Friday deadline. 291 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: That was blocked by Democrats led by Bernie Sanders. Jonah 292 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: Furman has been essential. Guys. Make sure you follow Jonah 293 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: for labor reporting. He says he feels like people are 294 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: not appreciating Warren Buffin and his friends are shutting down 295 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: the supply chain to force Congress to mandate one hundred 296 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand railroad workers to go to work 297 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: with no weekends or sick leave. They're not just thinking 298 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: about doing They've already started doing it. This is the 299 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: lockout that I was referring to. Norfolk Southern has already 300 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: announced plan embargoes on intermodal and automotive cargo, even though 301 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a cooling off period, and the 302 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: potential economic impacts were extraordinarily real, Jeff Stein saying emerging 303 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: impacts Amtrak cancels long distance trips, ammonia, fertilizer, ag products 304 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: pulled from trains, price of ethanol, other products, soores. Grain 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: shipments could stop tomorrow if rail shuts down, our entire 306 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: agricultural system shuts down. White House has been in emergency 307 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: meetings all week trying to and this is the next piece, 308 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: trying to figure out any sort of workaround in case 309 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: there was a lockout or a strike, working with other 310 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: modes of transportation, including shippers, truckers, and air freight to 311 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: see how they can step in and keep goods moving 312 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: if rail workers go on strike at the end of 313 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: this week. But you know, this is a real education, 314 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I think for some folks about exactly what the concerns were, 315 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: exactly how unreasonable the companies have ultimately been. Newsmax had 316 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: a worker named David Manning on to talk to him. 317 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean they sort of started their framing as like, 318 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, you can't shut down the economy. He 319 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: educates them in the segment about exactly what their concerns are, 320 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: and these Newsmax hosts are kind of shocked about how 321 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: unfair the treatment is. Let's take a listen to that, David. 322 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: We did reach out to the Association of American Railroads 323 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and they say that workers get six days and paid 324 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: time off. But what I want to talk to you 325 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: about is what does this mean for Americans if you 326 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: do go on strike? Well, what whoever told you we 327 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: get six day? Our six days is manipulating the data. 328 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: We get paid time off that we earned the previous year. Before, 329 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: before the new policy came about, we were allowed to 330 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: take five days off and two weekend days off a month. 331 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Now we could take virtually one day on paid off 332 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: a month, and then the only other time we could 333 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: take off is our paid time that we had to 334 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: earn previous year. Yeah, that does seem ridiculous. They would 335 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: never let airline pilots do that. Is that issue? Is 336 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: that issue number one for members number one? And if 337 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: we go on strike, yes, it could hurt the economy, 338 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: it could be bad for society, But we don't want 339 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: to do that. None of us want to do that. Well, 340 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: and I know Amtrak's already suspended. We're not asking We're 341 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: not asking for the world here. We're asking for a 342 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: few days off a month to spend with our family 343 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: instead of living on our train. We spend two hundred 344 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: and forty to two hundred and sixty hours a month 345 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: sitting on these trains, are sitting at the hotel rooms 346 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: away from our families. When I leave my house to 347 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: go to work, I'm gone for at least two to 348 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: two and a half to three days. I didn't come home, 349 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: and then I come home and I'm only allowed to 350 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: be home for ten hours, and then I could be 351 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: called to go right back to be gone for three days. 352 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: You have a family, yes, kids, My kid is seventeen 353 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: years old. Wow. I mean that one house actually makes 354 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: a good point. They would never let airline pilots. That 355 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: was what I was saying freight. I'm like, yo, this 356 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: is kind of important. I see. I mean, we all learn, 357 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, we had those two pilots, well maybe one. 358 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't know about the other one, but for MA 359 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: three seventy, still a lot of questions about that one. 360 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy you know, literally crashed a plane 361 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: in the side of the mountain because he went crazy, 362 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: so we should probably do everything in our power in 363 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: order to make sure that never happens again. Yeah, and 364 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: this is probably a key part of it. No, I 365 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: think it's completely insane. And again the Newsmax thing illustrates 366 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: my point, which is that when you try and look 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: at it and the aggregate, you're like, what are these 368 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: guys doing? They're in a crash. The economy is just 369 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: like the railway strike of the nineteen forty six. No, 370 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not the same in any way. The 371 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: dude laid it out perfectly. He's like, listen, I'm on 372 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: go for three days, I come home for ten hours. 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: I can't take time off whenever I get sick. And 374 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: the time off that we accrue is based upon the 375 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: previous year of work, which means if you start your 376 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: job right now. And this belies which is that this 377 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: is very important to the entire economy. So you should 378 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: pay people. Well, that's obviously, I mean commisserate to your value. 379 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: You should get paid. And the problem right now is 380 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: that the Union of the Union Pacific and the railway 381 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: companies are making money hand over fist. In fact, I 382 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: let to pull the economic data before this crystal they're 383 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: spending billions of dollars buying back their own stocks. They 384 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: are dividends, paying out massive dividends for their shareholders. In fact, 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: Union Pacific, for example, with a dramatically lower workforce, is 386 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: making eighty five percent more profit than it did in 387 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the year two thousand. So consider that they're making eighty 388 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: five percent more profit with the lower workforce and paying 389 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: out even more to their shareholders and to their dividends, 390 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: and buying back their own stock. So take even a 391 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: couple percent of that and you can afford what this 392 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: deal is. Just to show you how unreasonable they really are, 393 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: being completely completely unreasonable, And you know most of the complaints, 394 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: You're like, obviously everybody would like to get a raise, 395 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: and I think if my memory search correctly, they haven't 396 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: gotten any sort of a raise in like years, which 397 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: ridicul is again given the profits that these freight carriers 398 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: have been raking in, especially during the pandemic and post pandemic. 399 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: But it also shows you that a lot of the 400 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: key concerns sometimes aren't actually about wages. They're about can 401 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: I like live a life outside of my job? Can 402 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: I just like handle the basics of being able to 403 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: go to the doctor, go to my kid's soccer game, 404 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: or whatever. It is. Actually like see my family and 405 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: have a family. That's really what this ultimately came down to. 406 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: So again, we have some sort of a tentative deal. 407 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: It's between the railroad bosses and the union leadership. They 408 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: have to take that now to the membership, to the 409 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: rank and file workers and see whether it is sufficient. 410 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: With very limited details about what exactly is in this deal, 411 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it is a very Jeff Stein 412 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: is tweeting about the difference between how President Biden has 413 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: approached this sort of like seminal defining labor moment versus 414 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: how Ronald Reagan did with the air traffic controllers back 415 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: in the age. I think that's correct, But it also 416 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: remains to be seen how good this deal actually is 417 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: for workers or how much it falls on the side 418 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: of the bosses. We just don't have that information yet 419 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: to really make a judgment over how President Biden performed, 420 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: who's going to ultimately benefit for this, and whether a 421 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: strike has been actually averted or just pushed off for 422 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: another secresy important context there. Look, I mean, the deal 423 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: came out at five twenty this morning. It's only been 424 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: a couple of hours whenever we and I are filming this, 425 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: don't no, you know, we haven't even seen any worker reactions. 426 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Some people are still getting up. So we'll see what 427 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: the overall overall thing seems to be. And yeah, I 428 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: think we'll have coverage and if we can, we'll do 429 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: something emergency depends in order to react to whatever. Yeah, 430 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: to the specifics of the deal. Okay, let's get to 431 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: Senator Lindsey Graham here, who really surprised everybody by pushing 432 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: forward with a fifteen week abortion van at the federal level. 433 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: Now we'll get into some of the politicitics of this, 434 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: but part of why this caught people by surprise is, 435 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: first of all, Mitch McConnell and Senate leadership was not 436 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: behind it at all. Second of all, a lot of 437 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: the Republican messaging around abortion has been like, we just 438 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: think it should be left to the states, and Democrats 439 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: have been saying, these guys are going to try to 440 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: ban abortion at the federal leven No, no, no, don't 441 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: be ridiculous. We think this is going to be done 442 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: at the state. So Lindsey Grant, though, is calculating that 443 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: fifteen week abortion man is a lot more popular than 444 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: some of the more extreme position even more extreme than 445 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: that positions that they've been taking. So he decides to 446 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: move forward with this bill. He announces this as a 447 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: press conference. Let's take a listener to what he had 448 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: to say. I think we should have a law at 449 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: the federal level that would say, after fifteen weeks, no 450 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: abortion on demand except in cases of rape incests to 451 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: save the life of the mother. And that should be 452 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: where America is at. So that's how he is presenting 453 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: the bill. He also has another moment there that Democrats 454 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: were gleefully clipping out and sharing, where he's basically like, 455 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: if we get control of the House, you can and 456 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the Senate bed we're moving forward with legislation like this, 457 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: which again Democrats see as very beneficial for them. Washington 458 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Post has some reporting on the Republican response, which was 459 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: kind of all over the board. Their headline is Republicans 460 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: in muddle on abortion as banned proposed by Graham, exposes riffs. 461 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: They start off kind of, you know, laying out the 462 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: context here, they say. In a memo does up Campaigns 463 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: released this week, the Republican National Committee laid out what 464 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: it called a winning message on abortion. Press democrats on 465 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: where they stand on the procedure later in pregnancy, so 466 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: late term abortions, seek quote common ground on exceptions to bans, 467 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: and keep the focus on crime in the economy. So, 468 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: in other words, try to pivot off of this whole 469 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: abortion thing and focus on crime in the economy because 470 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: that's stronger ground for us. Then Cenator Lindsay Graham introduced 471 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: legislation to ban abortions nationwide after fifteen weeks of pregnancy, 472 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: overshadowing new inflation numbers and undermining what many GOP strategists 473 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: see as their best message for the fall. Leave it 474 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: to the states to give you you had one Republican 475 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: strategist quoted as saying it's an absolute disaster. When he 476 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: was informed that Blake masters Arizona Senate nominee had already 477 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: signed on to it. His response was oyve McConnell declined 478 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: to commit to bringing it to the floor. His top 479 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: deputy Senator John Thune, said he'd quote liked to see 480 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: the federal government get out of the abortion business. Now. 481 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: There were Republicans who a quoted in this article two 482 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: who are like, I don't think it's a problem I 483 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: think is actually fine, but there's clearly a divide here 484 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: in Senate leadership definitely not on board, which is interesting. 485 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, Christol. I still am confused 486 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: as why everybody thinks this is a terrible idea. I mean, 487 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: fifteen weeks is actually I wouldn't say like overwhelmingly popular, 488 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: but the last poll I saw forty eight percent. The 489 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: majority of people support a fifteen week ban. It deals 490 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: with all of the horrific exceptions. I mean, if you look, 491 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: I think every country in Europe save three bands abortion 492 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: or it doesn't allow abortion after fifteen weeks. I mean, 493 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: it's quite a mean reasonable position. I think my annoyance 494 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: with it is that amongst the pro lifers, they would 495 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: never have called you pro life if you support it 496 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: to fifteen week ban. Yeah, they'd be like, what do 497 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: use some sort of European style squish, and I'm like, 498 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, in this one particular case, I 499 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: do align with the Europeans. I mean, from my perspective, 500 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they're freaking out unless it means 501 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: that what they really wanted was to do a much 502 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: more restrictive ban and that this would force their hand 503 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: to go past what they want. And as I understand, 504 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: part of the reason why they're annoyed with him is 505 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of deep red states which were 506 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: I mean South Carolina, Texas, Alabama and others that wanted 507 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: to go not even six. I mean, they wanted to 508 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: like outright ban everything with no exception. So they're upset 509 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: about with him from that perspective. But overall, I mean, frankly, 510 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: fifteen weeks would be I mean, a pretty decent compromise 511 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: in my opinion. I mean, fifteen weeks is still underwater nationally, 512 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: so it's not like a popular position. It's more popular 513 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: than like this or sorry. It's not like three if 514 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: when you test the question of three months, which was row, 515 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: like the Groque policy, that's not overwhelmingly popular either. Right, 516 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: It's like the row the defense was we like the 517 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: status quo, not in not like we're supportive of the policy. 518 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: It's like, we don't really want to revisit this, yes, 519 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: whereas fift like when you ask people to choose fifteen 520 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: is like it's a pretty good scene is I mean, 521 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: the polling has it still underwater, but closer to fifty 522 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: to fifty than certainly the more extreme things that they've 523 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: been pushing for at the state level. The reason why 524 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: this is a problem, in my opinion for them to 525 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: politically politically, and I don't want to overstate it because 526 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is a significy get David 527 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I think the reason that you have 528 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: a lot of Republican strategists like, dude, what the fuck 529 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: are you doing? Is because when you look at the 530 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: numbers in these states of who's registering to vote, the 531 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: more directly voters feel like their vote is going to 532 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: matter on abortion, the more women you have registering, the 533 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: more young people you have registering, and it's a really 534 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: clear trend. So if you look in a state like 535 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: New York, you haven't had this massive surge of women voters, 536 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: this massive surge of young voters because they feel like 537 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: abortion is relatively safe in their state. So well, but 538 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: then now this, then they're like, no, it's not. And 539 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: so what Graham has done here is he's effectively put 540 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: abortion on the ballot in every single state in the country. 541 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: That's a problem for them. And then the other big 542 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: picture issue is just like they don't want to talk 543 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: about this, it's clearly we've seen Republicans are still in 544 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: a position to do decently in the midterms, probably when 545 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: the House fifty to fifty on the Senate is my assessment. 546 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: At this point, they were in position before Roe was 547 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: overturned to completely romp and dominate in the House. Historic 548 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: margins definitely pick up the Senate. So this issue of 549 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: abortion has been the key, is not the only thing, 550 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: but the key reason why their fortunes have fallen so dramatically. 551 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: So the fact that Lindsay Graham instead of like you know, 552 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: doing some of the stuff DeSantis is doing, like flying 553 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: immigrants to Martha's vineyard, Like those sorts of things are 554 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: very solid ground for Republicans. They feel like that's a 555 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: place where they'd like to stand crime, immigration, continuing to 556 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: talk about the economy, the president just got some bad 557 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: news on inflation, and instead it's like, oh, so we're 558 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: going to just talk more about abortion and have another 559 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: political cycle about this and effectively put the issue on 560 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: the ballot in every single state. So that's why I 561 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of like this was a really, 562 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: really terrible I think when you put it that way, 563 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: you take it so i'mting on too much of a 564 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: nerd because I'm like looking at the specifics, but I 565 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: mean in general, like you just don't want to talk 566 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: about abortion period. And look, I mean they're not wrong too. 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: It's very unpopular, but a lot of these people will 568 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: want to do and as you said, when people vote 569 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: on abortion, we're going to talk about this in the 570 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania block. But when whenever you see people who are 571 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: registering to vote and voting on abortion overwhelmingly breaking for Democrats. 572 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: So at that point, they don't care about fifteen weeks 573 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: or anything. They're pissed off about the repeal of rope period, 574 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: and they're not looking at anything. Well, and here's the 575 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: other thing is Number one, midterms are about energizing your 576 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: base and turnout, and this is an issue that is 577 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: energized in the Democratic base, like no whether, there's just 578 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So I think that's really important. 579 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: And then I do have to say I'm their like hole, 580 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: like we want to be just like Europe thing. It's like, okay, 581 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: well then why don't we give us like the you know, 582 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: affordable childcare, the public healthcare, the single payer, like on 583 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: this one thing they want to be like Europe. Okay, 584 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: I just say it's the idea that it's extreme to 585 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: ban abortion over for fifteen weeks just seems nuts to me. 586 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like perfectly reasonable, like in all. Well, 587 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. Sager is like, again, they've 588 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: been trying to lean into this whole messaging of like, 589 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: we don't want to do anything in the federal we 590 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: just want to leak to the states localism, like let 591 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: them decide. Everyone knows exactly what you said. Pro livers 592 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: are not satisfied with fifteen weeks. This is not their position. 593 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: This is the starting point that they think they can 594 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: get the public to swallow right now. And people aren't stupid. 595 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: They know this is the opening bid. And that in 596 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: actuality because people who are pro life and like you know, 597 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: adamantly and like genuinely so, they see abortion as literal murder. 598 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: They're not going to be cool with infanticide up to 599 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: fifteen weeks. That's the way they view it. Everybody like 600 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: that's very I think obvious in a parent so people 601 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: feel like, oh, you are in the business of trying 602 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: to ban abortion completely nationwide. And that's why I think 603 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: this is a problem. There was an interesting moment. I 604 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Lake Masters before let's come put this next piece 605 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: up on the screen. So Masters actually came out of 606 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: me and it was like, yeah, I signed onto this. 607 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: Of course, he said I would support Graham's bill. At 608 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: the same time, his campaign spokesman had retweeted a message 609 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: that this is from the wash InPost appeared to channel 610 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: some GOP groans over Graham's announcement. The retweet was just 611 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: why why why why why. He later deleted that retweet, 612 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: but clearly, you know, he and his candidate not exactly 613 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: on the same page as to what the political impact 614 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: here might be. Yeah, that one's pretty funny. I agree. 615 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting to see the freak out I 616 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: mean with Masters in general, Like he just doesn't want 617 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: to talk about abortion at all. He put out that 618 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: one ad and he's like, all right, let's move on. 619 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: Let's deleted his whole previous section from his website. You 620 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: had a problem. I mean, he's a guy who put 621 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: on his website federal Personhood Bill, like all this stuff 622 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: when hard in the paint, when absolutely nobody asked him 623 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: to do, so, you know, whatever you want to do, 624 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: and then you had to reverse course, because you're getting 625 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: hammered with, you know, twenty million dollars in ads on 626 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: abortion so on that you know, I don't have particularly 627 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: amount of sympathy because genuinely a self inflicted wound. So yeah, look, 628 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: I think that your overall analysis correct, which is that 629 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: if you're talking about abortion period, no matter what the 630 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: specifics are, and you're Republican, you're probably just gonna lose 631 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: given who your allies are. Well, it is not just 632 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: pro choice people like me who see it that way. 633 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, who is very pro life, also thinks just 634 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: from political perspective, that this was a very bad move 635 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: on Lindsay Graham's part. Let's take a listen to what 636 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: he had to say. Why is Lindsey Graham, twenty five 637 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: days out from ballots going out, galloping in and saying 638 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: we need a federal abortion ban? Really, where have you been, 639 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham? That feels like election interference. And I say 640 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: this as someone who is so pro life, I would 641 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: love a total abortion ban. Fifteen weeks is not enough, 642 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: But I'm also not dumb. Twenty five days out from 643 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: ballots going out, the Democrats are applauding, thank you, Lindsey 644 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Graham for making this issue about abortion. I mean, I 645 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: think his political analysis there is pretty correct, Like this 646 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: is the last issue that Republicans really want to be 647 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: talking about right now, and so that's why there's I mean, McConnell, 648 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: how do you feel about him? Fairly savvy political operator, 649 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that he's like, now we're not moving 650 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 1: forward with this, I think tells you a lot. Oh. Absolutely, 651 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: Well that's another interesting thing on McConnell itself, which is 652 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: that how are you letting all this stuff happen in 653 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: your caucus? Man? I mean, you really are losing control. 654 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Lindsay didn't consult anybody, just came out and lancing, which 655 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: is interesting. I wonder what his calculus on it. I 656 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: think he probably sees it the way he's like, look, 657 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: we need to settle this. He's like, I'm sick of 658 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: all these attacks. Lindsay's always been like kind of a 659 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: quote squish, you know, to these people. So he's like, 660 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: let's just force everybody's hand and let's unite the entire 661 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Republican Party. But I think part of the issue is, 662 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: as Kirk is saying, is like, you know, listen to 663 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: what Kirk actually wants, which is that, So is there 664 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: any real united these people? Well, same thing. I mean 665 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: Blake Masters had said. I think he's one of the 666 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: ones that said abortion is genocide, and so it's like, 667 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: we know you're not going to be satisfied in fifteen weeks. 668 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: So that's people see through where the initial stances and 669 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: where they would ultimately want to go here. I mean 670 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: it is kind of revealing though too, that you he 671 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: acknowledges like the American public is not with us on 672 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: this issue, so we kind of need to hide the 673 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: ball in advance of the election on what we actually 674 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: want to do, which I think is revealing as well. 675 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what Graham's calculation was. I mean, look, 676 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: you have people who have a genuine ideological commitment, and 677 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: I understand that, and it could just be coming literally 678 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: from that. I mean, Mike Pence said something like this 679 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: issue was more important than any sort of short term 680 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: political gain, basically acknowledging like, yeah, this might be bad 681 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: for us in the fall, but I think that there's 682 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: a higher priority here. So maybe it does come from 683 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: that genuine place versus any sort of political calculus. But 684 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: ultimately I don't think it's don't think it's going to 685 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: be helpful to their chances. Yeah, I think you're correct. Okay, 686 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: let's move on to inflation. This was an absolutely surreal moment. 687 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: President Biden on the south line of the White House 688 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: holds a multi thousand people party. Every group who's ever 689 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: existed in democratic politics is there. He's uniting everyone for 690 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: the success of the Inflation Reduction Act. It's on Tuesday afternoon, 691 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: at the very same moment that the President is talking 692 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: about how the Inflation Reduction Act is going to reduce inflation. 693 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: It comes out after the CPI came in hotter than 694 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: was expected, and as the Dow is dropping over a 695 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: thousand points. It really is one of the most surreal 696 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: moments that you'll ever see. For those who are just listening, 697 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: just keep in mind while you're listening to this, there 698 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: is a Dow ticker in the bottom right corner of 699 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: the screen which just continues to show market activity as 700 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: Biden talks. Let's take a listen. This couldn't have happened 701 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: without every single one of you, and that's in a 702 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: literal sense of the Senate. Every single one was required 703 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: because the other team didn't want to play, and all 704 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: our diest thing. We guess CEOs Act Advocates activis thank 705 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: you for joining us. What a great day. Exactly four 706 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: weeks ago today, I signed the Inflation Reduction Act in 707 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: the law. So it's just right classic Biden. He's got 708 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: the aviators on. He seems to think that he puts 709 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: those aviators on he becomes thirty five years old. Again, 710 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: it's not quite how it works. But so he puts 711 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: the glasses on. The Dow is dropping twelve thirteen hundred 712 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: points there. Wow, smart smart programming there from Fox News too. 713 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't miss the chance to. I think 714 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: they actually had it up all bit. To their credit, 715 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: they actually did have that up and Biden just happened 716 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: at the same time, like Woods, you pull it off. No, yeah, 717 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean they're smart at what they're doing. And so 718 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: Biden also puts out this incredibly foolish statement at the 719 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: exact same time. Let's put this up there. From the 720 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: White House in reaction, says today's data shows more progress 721 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: in bringing global inflation down in the US economy. Overall 722 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: prices have been essentially flat in our country these last 723 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: two months. That is welcome news. Gases down average of 724 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: a dollar thirty a gallon. It will take more time 725 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: and resolve to bring inflation down, which is why we 726 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: passed the Inflation Reduction Act to lower the cost of healthcare, 727 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: prescription drug and energy my economic plan blah blah blah. 728 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: So again he's trying to seize on the success of 729 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: the Inflation Reduction Act as we saw it. Look, the 730 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: core inflation number did go up by point one percent, 731 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: and the reason why was specifically food and shelter. And 732 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: when those two things are going up, the Inflation Reduction Act, 733 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: by the way, has a zero impact on food prices 734 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: and on shelter costs. Right, so the two things, and 735 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: I think another thing we should underscore is inflation went 736 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: up despite the fact that gas prices went down by 737 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: ten percent in a month, which means those had to 738 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: be so high in those commissery categories that the overall 739 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: number is still there, so the pressure remains on families. 740 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: His point is not technically incorrect, right, which is that 741 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: year over year inflation went from eight point four to 742 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: eight point three, So year over year it dropped by 743 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: point one per it's still up eight point three. I 744 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: just I just need to really take it's so foolish 745 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: when presidents try to sell a picture of the economy 746 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: to the America. Yeah, which is just fake feeling. And 747 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it lands I 748 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: don't think it's persuasive. I don't think it's smart for 749 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: them politically. You know, he could have used this moment 750 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: to point to Look, gas prices are coming down, that's great, 751 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: it's not nearly enough, and we still have these other 752 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: problems that my administration is planning to address through X, 753 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: Y and Z measures. We pass the Inflation Production Act 754 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: that's going to help in these key areas. But to 755 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: try to, you know, say this show's we're making progress, 756 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: it's like, nah, it doesn't really do that. And clearly, 757 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, the markets weren't free fault largely 758 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: because of what they expect now the Fed is going 759 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: to do, which is to continue with a very aggressive 760 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: direction in terms of rate hikes, which now and we'll 761 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: get to this a minute, they some analysts are saying 762 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: they may not just do seventy five basis points, they 763 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: may do a full hundred basis point. So that's why 764 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: the market is in free fall. But yeah, this report 765 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: was a bad report. We covered its breaking news here 766 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: because it was higher than what the expectation was. The 767 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: expectation was like, Okay, it's going to tick down a 768 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: little bit and we're going to be headed in generally 769 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: the right direction. And instead it's like, no, actually ticked 770 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: up a little bit and we're still headed in the 771 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: wrong direction. And to not have some of that reality 772 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: seep in and have this just total celebratory congratulatory tone 773 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: in the remarks is off. What's annoying too, is that 774 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Americans don't feel Americans are still very concerned about inflation. However, 775 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: remember what we covered a couple of days ago. Because 776 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: the inflation is so highly tied with people's minds and gas, 777 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: they still actually feel better about the economy than they 778 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: did three months ago. Correct, So inflation can quote cool 779 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: because it is technically cooling right, eight point four to 780 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: eight point three, not year over year jumps of like 781 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: seven point five to eight point five. But it can 782 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: still be bad, like it's all just about trying to 783 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: fit the vibe. The vibe is is that people aren't 784 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: feeling as bad as they're worth four months ago when 785 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: gas or three months ago when gas was five dollars 786 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: a gallon. Yeah, that doesn't mean they're like super happy 787 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, they don't feel like mission accomplished. Yeah, 788 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: it's like trying to declare the ad mission accomplished moment 789 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: is just really foolish. And so have the split screen 790 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: like that. I do think there's a tremendous political viability 791 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: in the future. And so let's get to the Fed point. 792 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 1: Let's put this up there, which is that the FED 793 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: is considering that one hundred point basis point rate hike, 794 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: the biggest hike since the nineteen eighties, specifically in reaction 795 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: both to this inflation report and to just from the 796 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: overwhelming pressure that comes from Wall Street and from elsewhere. 797 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is is that even Wall Street, 798 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: and this is part of the reason why the S 799 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: and P five hundred and others, even though their overwhelming 800 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: consensus is around that the Fed is going to do this, 801 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 1: they are still reacting in a negative manner every single 802 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: time that the inflation report gets worse because they know 803 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: that's only going to put even more pressure from the 804 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: quote unquote consensus on the Federal Reserve to increase the 805 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: rate hike. And that only means that recession is just 806 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: more and more more and more likely. And I think 807 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: that that is just the scariest part of all. This 808 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: is what we talk about here. I mean, look, our 809 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: zero interest rates perfect for the economy. Probably not, I 810 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: mean it's probably not a good thing, and at least 811 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: fake companies and all these other things. But to have 812 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: such a precipitous rise so quickly, I don't think we 813 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: can really describe what it's like to live in that environment. 814 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, major fortune, five hundred companies have to cut 815 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: benefits and have to cut workers. You know, yes, you know, 816 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: they will always cut worker pay before they have to 817 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: cut share price. But our stockholder did it, and eventually 818 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: that will happen to And so you're just going to 819 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: see like an overall like a trickle down recession without 820 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: any of the like the trickle up benefits supposedly on 821 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: the way back up. And that's what they always promise 822 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: this quote unquote soft landing. I just don't think that's 823 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: remotely possible when you're moving at this level of speed. 824 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: These things take months to manifest in mortgage, housing and 825 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: all of that. So I think we're going to see 826 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: this for at least a year, a year, maybe you know, 827 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: eighteen months plus. Yeah. Yeah, Well, and what they point 828 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: to you here is a few things. So the odds 829 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: of a one hundred basis point, which just means a 830 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: full point hike, jump more than twenty percent. After we 831 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: got that report, hopes of a FED pivot, they said, 832 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: were firmly dashed. As if they hadn't been already, you've 833 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: got Namura Economists changed their forecast for the FED September 834 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: meeting from a seventy five to one hundred basis points, 835 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: writing that a more aggressive, aggressive path of interest rate 836 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: hikes will be needed to combat increasingly entrenched inflation. Frickin 837 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: Larry Summers is out here tweeting that if he was 838 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: a FED official, he would pick a hundred basis points 839 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: move to reinforce credibility, reinforce credibility, whatever that means. This 840 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: is the same man who said that we need to 841 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: get the unemployment rate to ten percent in order to 842 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: get the cunder control. Just so you know, I mean, 843 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: Jerome pal is out there directly saying we need to 844 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: get wages down. There's going to be a little bit 845 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: of pain, like they're not hiding it. And again, I think, 846 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: if anything, the fact that you have inflation numbers continuing 847 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: to be bad shows you when they're doing so far. 848 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there may be a huge lag, but it's 849 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: also not getting at some of the core reasons we 850 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: have inflation to start with. I mean, the shelter cost 851 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: is the perfect example. And I know we've gone over 852 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: this a few times, but I just think it's really 853 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: important to underscore one of one of the big reasons 854 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: that housing costs keep going up is because we haven't 855 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: been building enough homes. Hiking interest rates makes it so 856 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: that builders are less likely to build more homes. So 857 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: not only are you're not dealing with the problem, you're 858 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: actually exacerbating the problem in that particular instance. So I 859 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: think it's a really really bad situation. I think it's 860 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: a very dangerous situation because you just don't know. These 861 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: are blunt instruments, and you just don't know what kind 862 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: of a massive effect they can have on the economy 863 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: because there is a lag between when those rates are 864 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: hiked and when the pain actually hits. The last time 865 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: that rates were hiked at this level of one hundred 866 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: basis points in the eighties, it drove the US into 867 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: a deep recession. We reported on I guess it was 868 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: Tuesday about that research from an economist with the Federal 869 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: Reserve Board of Governors who said, hey, guys, we got 870 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: to be careful with this because we could have a 871 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: very similar circumstance to what happened coming out of the 872 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: Spanish flu, where yeah, we had these supply chain shocks 873 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: and all these issues, and we have this aggressive, aggressive 874 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: interest rate hiking that could cause a severe recession. So 875 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons why the Fed should be 876 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: very cautious here, and instead, instead it looks like they're 877 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: moving in a more and a more aggressive posture. Absolutely, look, 878 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: it can be bad. We'll underscore that housing point, and 879 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to watch it. But it looks 880 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: like the prediction of quote some pain looks very much 881 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: like it is going to be an understatement. Indeed, let's 882 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: talk about the midterms. This is some really interesting new polling, 883 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: and from the beginning, let's say the Crystaline Sager caveat 884 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: that all polls, especially the poles that we're seeing right now, 885 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: look about as wrong as they were in twenty twenty. 886 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: So keep that at the very top of your mind 887 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: when we talk about the latest polling. That's coming out 888 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: from CBS. Let's go ahead and put this up there 889 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: on the screen. On a national level, I love these 890 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: mid term vote very important issues. Specifically with Pennsylvania likely voters, 891 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: economy eighty percent, inflation seventy seven percent, essentially the same 892 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: crime sixty five percent. That crime number is exactly why 893 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: doctor Oz is talking only about inflation and crime. That's 894 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that he's been hitting a Fetterman 895 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: over with this one. I found interesting. I'm curious what 896 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: you think election issues. So what's fun to me is 897 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: that means something to very different people. You're talking to 898 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: a Republican, you're talking about stop the steel. You're talking 899 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: to a Democrat you're talking about also stop the steal. 900 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: But you want to like throw people in jail who 901 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: are pro stop the steal. So that one, I don't 902 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: think it's really salient beyond like a base motivator. But 903 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: then guns and abortion are also very high up there 904 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: as well. Now this is an important thing. Oz is 905 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: leading in that poll of likely voters of fifty seven 906 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: to forty three with Fetterman on the economy. And again, 907 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: this is why I kept saying whenever he attacks Fetterman 908 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: on any ground that isn't Joe Biden and the economy. 909 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: I just I think it's foolish. I mean, I think 910 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: this is the absolute centerpiece of their campaign. The issue though, 911 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: for the issue though for doctor Oz is let's put 912 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: this out the next one up there on the screen. 913 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: In terms of who Pennsylvanians say they believe when they 914 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: talk about politics, really believe Fetterman fifty seven percent, Oz, 915 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: twenty nine percent think voters want to hear forty three 916 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: percent Fetterman seventy one percent OZ. So the attack on 917 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: Oz here is he's a phony. They don't believe that 918 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: he means what he says whenever he's talking. And there's 919 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: a couple of other things that they point to, and 920 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: this one, obviously, I think it's going to matter a lot. 921 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: Has OZ been in Pennsylvania long enough to understand the issues? 922 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: Thirty three percent Yes, sixty seven percent No. Does OZ 923 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: have the right or do they have the right experience? 924 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: John Fetterman fifty six percent yes, twenty four percent for Oz? 925 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: How do they handle themselves personally? Fetterman is at fifty 926 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: to fifty. Oz is at thirty six sixty four sixty 927 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: four percent dislike and then quote main reason for vote choice. 928 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I love this. This is my favorite 929 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: for because for all of the talk of issues, do 930 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: I like the guy or not? Here is with Fetterman. 931 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: Fifty six percent of his voters say I like him. 932 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: Unles Weather voted for him. For OZ voters it's only 933 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: fifteen for oppose the other candidate twenty four percent for 934 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: Fetterman fifty four percent OZ. And then he's my party's 935 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: nominee twenty percent Fetterman thirty one percent. So for Fetterman 936 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: voters is overwhelming like an affirmative vote, like I like 937 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: the guy, I'm with him. For OZ voters it's like 938 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 1: I don't like Fetterman. So then like or I don't 939 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: like Biten, I don't like Democrats. Yeah, I mean this 940 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: says to oppose the candidate, but yeah, you're probably right. 941 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: It is more about like an opposition vote rather than 942 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: an affirmative vote in favor of him. And this was 943 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: also interesting. Even though Fetterman is a current elected in OZ, 944 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: is the quote unquote outsider, having never been an elected 945 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: office before. It's actually Fetterman who was seen by more 946 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: voters as representing change. I thought that was fascinating as well. 947 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: You've got fifty eight percent saying that John Fetterman represents 948 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: change and forty two percent saying that doctor Oz does, 949 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: which again is kind of remarkable given not just that 950 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: Fetterman's an elected office, but also that you know, Democrats 951 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,959 Speaker 1: with party in power, so you would think that people 952 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: would be like, oh, the Republican would be the one 953 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: representing change. I think it shows that the Fetterman attacks 954 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: on Oz have been very effective. I mean, they have 955 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: defined him. These numbers reflect exactly the way that they 956 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: wanted him to find and so the overall lead here 957 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: for Fetterman is fifty two forty seven outside of the 958 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: margin of error, but still relatively close race. I would 959 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: say this is more in line with the numbers you 960 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: would expect to see in Pennsylvania. Pretty close race, but 961 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: with Fetterman having a little bit of an edge given 962 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: that he's run a much much more effective campaign. They 963 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: also asked this question, is Fetterman healthy enough to serve? 964 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: And you had pretty I mean, Fetterman's got to be 965 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: happy with these numbers as well. You had fifty nine 966 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: percent who said yes and forty one percent who said no. 967 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: So clearly the vulnerability for Fetterman here is exactly what 968 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: we've been saying. It's number one on the economy. The 969 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: more that inflation is in the news, the more that 970 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: Oz is talking about inflation and not in the context 971 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: of crue de tay either, the more effective. And then 972 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: the second beat is crime, which they've been pushing more 973 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: and more. Those are the places where Fetterman is the 974 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: most vulnerable, and that's I think a microcosm of the 975 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: entire national national exactly putting the specifics of these candidates 976 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: in their campaigns as thay thing go. I mean, you know, 977 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: if I was doing I'll be doing the same thing. 978 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a disaster right now. I'll be playing that 979 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: all day long. Because the other thing is you maybe 980 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: want to suppress vote in terms of the mainline suburban 981 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: Philly people who all came out hard to vote for 982 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. If you can keep him at home, or 983 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: if you can maybe convince him to vote for Oz, 984 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: not to vote for Fetterman, that's gonna be a big 985 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: win for you, trying to drive out as much of 986 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans as possible. Overall, same thing, I mean, the 987 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: advice for Oz is the same for advice for every 988 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: Republican candidate that is out there. It's just so annoying 989 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: every time I see them get embroiled. It's like basic stuff. 990 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 1: Just focus on the basics. John Fetterman has the vote 991 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. John, Joe Biden is the reason we 992 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: have high inflation. Whether it's true or not, it doesn't matter. 993 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: What it comes down to is politics. And I think 994 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, Blake Masters and doctor Oz 995 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: and herschel Walker, they just seem to lack a very 996 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: basic political sensibility of being sticking to the message and 997 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: just hammering at home every single day. Twitter is a 998 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: distraction in every way. Yeah, even with Fetterman all his 999 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: all of his trolls against Oz on Twitter is funny 1000 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: for people like us. What matters more of the billboards 1001 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: and the ads about how he's from New Jersey. Yeah, purely. 1002 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: I mean it's landing in the States. He takes that 1003 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: Twitter energy and he actualizes it is real campaign. Yeah, correct, 1004 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: Like that's the key. I think. The other thing, going 1005 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: back to the conversation Aunt Lindsay Graham an abortion, all 1006 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: of that they asked of those who say abortion is 1007 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: very important to their vote who were they voting for. 1008 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: Seventy percent for Fitterment yes, and thirty percent for US. 1009 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: So again really clear numbers that the more that Row 1010 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: versus Weighed and abortion is in the news like, the 1011 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: better it is for Democrats, and they're clearly leaning into 1012 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: that messaging very heavily. They also had numbers on whether 1013 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: people are voting on national issues or local issues. Seventy 1014 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: six percent say they're voting on national issues every election. 1015 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: You know they the saying used to be all elections 1016 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: or local note all politics is now national. And so 1017 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: I think this shows you that there are opportunities for 1018 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: us here in terms of the economy, to continue to 1019 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: prosecute the case to get out from the little bit 1020 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: of a deficit that he appears to be in. Although 1021 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: again I think you should take all of these polls 1022 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but you can see why 1023 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: Fetterman has taken the approach that he has. And if 1024 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: I were to point to one of these numbers that 1025 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: I think is the most damaging for Oz, it's the 1026 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: first one you brought up about how people are like, 1027 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust them. Yeah, they're like I feel like 1028 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: he's telling you what I want to hear. Yeah, yeah, 1029 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: that's a huge problem for a politician. That's a death 1030 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: now sometimes. Yeah, let's pull the next one up there. 1031 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: This is about what happened in New Hampshire. Interesting last night. 1032 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: So actually, remember this woman, she Caroline Leavett, used to 1033 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: work at the White House whatever I was covering there. 1034 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: I remember her whenever. She was just a junior precissist. 1035 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: And she's only twenty five years old. She won the 1036 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: she wondered primary last night for the House of Representatives 1037 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: in the first congressional district. I'm not entirely sure how 1038 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: competitive that seat actually is. It's very competitive, right, So 1039 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: this one the Larry Sabage's crystal ball. They had it 1040 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,959 Speaker 1: as a toss up after she got the nomination. They've 1041 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: moved it to lean down. Yeah, because she was the 1042 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: more extreme of the candidates in the primary. She's very 1043 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: mag I mean, look, this is a she just ran 1044 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: as Maga. She got all the quote unquote Maga world endorsements, 1045 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 1: and her and the other winner in the Senate race 1046 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: really exemplify the quote unquote Maga sweep in the party. 1047 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: The reason I actually think that's important is that Trump 1048 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: didn't endorse in these races. Yeah, So these were not 1049 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: races where Trump was pushed over the edge. This was 1050 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: a real test for the primary voters themselves Trump aside, 1051 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,240 Speaker 1: who are we picking? In both cases the quote unquote 1052 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: maga person with the impromonteur of Trump. Both on the 1053 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: Senate side and in the congressional district, both of them 1054 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 1: won their competitive primary. Yeah. It's like they didn't even 1055 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: need the Trump endorsement. They just needed the mega esthetic, yeah, 1056 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: and which they had. Well. It's interesting though, because in 1057 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: other primaries there have been MAGA folks who have endorsed 1058 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 1: despite Trump's endorsement. In general, Trump's endorsement won, but always 1059 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: the question was is like what matters the most? And 1060 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: it looks like in the absence of a Trump endorsement 1061 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: as appearing more maga were not mattered a lot in 1062 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Now, why does New Hamphire matter? Presidential primary state? Trump? 1063 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: People forget Trump won the New Hampshire primary by a 1064 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: blowout win. Memory lost the Iowa caucuses. I think he 1065 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: got third place. It was his first win on the 1066 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: scene in New Hampshire very much those like white working 1067 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: class high voters, not same as some of the evangelicals 1068 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: of Catholics in Iowa. More, I would say more of 1069 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: a like an emblem for the people who ultimately swung 1070 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen elections. So for that fact to be, 1071 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the raucous GOP base, for them 1072 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: to go very much with the MAGA candidates, that does matter, 1073 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: and it seems again seems to have affected electoral chances 1074 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: in terms of how the prognosticators are calling. It would 1075 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: take that with whatever graind salt that you will well do. 1076 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: The hell knows what's gonna Hampshire. It happens, sure, absolutely. 1077 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, there's another piece that's interesting here about the 1078 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: Senate race in particular, which is that this dude who 1079 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how you say his name, General Don 1080 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: Bald Yeah, Bald Yeah. He actually did not put a 1081 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: single out of his own up on the airway, did 1082 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: not spend a penny in advertising himself on the airs. 1083 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: Was just kind of incredible. But Democrats saw him as 1084 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: the weaker candidate, and so the Senate Majority pack Chuck 1085 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 1: Schumer's group aired ads across the state calling his opponent, 1086 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: state Senate President Chuck Morse, the choice of Mitch McConnell's 1087 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: Washington establishment. They called him another sleazy politician, and they 1088 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: tied him to the lobbying industry and opioids. The opioid 1089 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: epidemic of course devastating in New Hampshire. So Democrats decided that, 1090 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they're again playing with fire here. They decided 1091 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 1: this was the candidate they wanted to go up against, 1092 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: and they were successful in putting him over the top. Now, 1093 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think Republican voters have agency and I 1094 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: think obviously like these are the type of candidates that 1095 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: they're selecting. So I'm not sure that the Democratic money 1096 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: ultimately was determinative here. But the big thing that grit 1097 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: they Republicans in this state are concerned about is that 1098 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 1: now with this dude is the now Mitch McConnell and 1099 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: the others who could put money into the state are 1100 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: going to say, nah, this is not a good use 1101 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: of resources. And so that's the real thing. Obviously, we've 1102 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: been covering how limited funds are for a lot of 1103 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: Republican Senate candidates right now that I'm a beg. Mitch 1104 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 1: McConnell or Peter Thiel or Donald Trump or whoever who 1105 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: has money in their packs to come in and sort 1106 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: of rescue their butts in these various races. So, with 1107 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 1: money being tight, very likely that McConnell and co. Take 1108 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: a look now at this race, which already had been 1109 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: trending more towards the Democrats and the incumbent Maggie Hassen, 1110 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: and say, this is not a good investment for us. 1111 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: We're instead going to put more money into Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, 1112 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: Ohio or somewhere else where. I think we really have 1113 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: a shot to win. Still's look, you're playing with fire. 1114 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: What if these people win? What if this is a 1115 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: new Marjorie Taylor Green or Madison Cawthorn or you know, 1116 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: or you know, look, you never know. Some crazy shit 1117 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: could happen. Absolutely somebody could win. And now you have 1118 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: this guy in the Senate. So you will pay the 1119 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: price possibly for that. Okay, let's move on. This is 1120 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 1: a hilarious thing that Crystal and I were both kind 1121 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: of obsessed with yesterday, correct, So let me share it. 1122 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: Put the context there is fat acceptance. TikTok is something 1123 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: I've become unfortunately very familiar with. It's a major social 1124 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: trend amongst the quote unquote teens. Now, I will say 1125 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: if that's an organic movement. I think that's fine. I 1126 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: think it's abhorrent and terrible and unhealthy. But you know, 1127 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: as long as it's organic, so be it. It's just 1128 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: another sociological thing that we all have to work out. 1129 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: There is, however, been a recent trend of elite institutions 1130 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 1: trying to share this ideology. Now this has now happened 1131 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: where the Los Angeles School Unified District shared a quote 1132 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 1: food neutrality video on its Instagram. Now, why does that matter? 1133 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 1: As you said previously at the beginning of the show, 1134 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: Los Angeles were of the largest school districts in the 1135 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 1: United States. You know, hundreds of thousands of children being 1136 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: educated here. Nutritional guidelines in schools is a huge impact 1137 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: on overall child nutrition, something I'm personally watching very closely. 1138 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,959 Speaker 1: The Biden administration actually holding the very first White House 1139 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: conference on nutrition in like six years, happening at the 1140 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: White House in two weeks now. The reason that that 1141 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: matters is there's been a lot of debate about nutritional 1142 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: guidelines by the US Food and Drug Administration. Obviously, I 1143 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: think those guidelines are insane and ridiculous, and the question 1144 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: is are they going to revise them? Or are they 1145 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: going about some of this ideologies. Are they going to 1146 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: move in a health direction or are they going to 1147 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: make it ideological? So this possibly could be a harbinger 1148 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: of things to come. Going to say that some of 1149 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: the guidelines also for years and years have been impacted 1150 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: by the food industry, Yes, by the sugar and drug industry, 1151 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: sugar with the sugar and food industry, which culminates in 1152 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: this video, and a perfect example of what I fear 1153 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: the most, which is what we see here in this 1154 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: video is a quote unquote food neutrality talk by these 1155 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 1: TikTokers that includes a nutritionist. Now the nutritionus in this video, 1156 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: we're going to play the full video for you, effectively 1157 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: says that caring about what you eat is better and 1158 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: then there's no such thing as good food and bad food. 1159 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: What the video neglects to say is that the nutritionists 1160 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: who goes by literal black nutritionists, talks about quote unquote 1161 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: systems of oppression and all of this. Is a senior 1162 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: nutrition scientist at Mandolez International spun off from craft foods 1163 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: and makes the foods like chips, ahoy Oreo cookies, sour 1164 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: Patch kids, basically all sugary jug food. Listen next, but 1165 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 1: not so for you. With that knowledge, and with that knowledge, 1166 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 1: now watch this video and see how much of an 1167 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: op that it is. I got us donuts. Those are 1168 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: so bad for you? Oh no? Are they moldy? And 1169 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: are they poisoned? Are you allergic? No? I'm just saying 1170 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: you're judging my food choices based on a false standard 1171 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: of health. Again, aren't you guilty? The head culture, patophobia 1172 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: and systems of oppression have created to post hierarchies of 1173 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: food and chews up everywhere. For instance, harmful thought patterns 1174 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: like earning food through exercising, or that dessert is the 1175 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: reward or the punishment of eating vegetables. Remember that you 1176 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: do not need to earn food. We are all incorrectly 1177 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: taught from a young age that are size and therefore 1178 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: the foods that we eat are markers of our self worth. 1179 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: Moralizing food can lead to harmful relationships of food and 1180 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: the sorted eating. Instead of focusing on good and bades, 1181 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: try to approach food with neutrality in mind. The only 1182 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: foods that are bad for you are foods that contain allergens, poisons, 1183 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: and contaminants, or food that is spoiled or is otherwise inedible, 1184 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: eat without guilt, regardless of what society says, eat without 1185 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: guilt without regardless of what society says. This is literally 1186 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,439 Speaker 1: a corporate op in order to normalize like eating junk 1187 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: food wing social justice language, to run a corporate op 1188 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: to be like eat our oreos well the CHRISTI AREO. 1189 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: The crazy thing Crystal throw this next one up there 1190 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: on the screen, which is that part of her job 1191 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: description is quote innovation opportunities in driving the scientific evidence 1192 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: strategy to promote brands and support the business as in 1193 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: to use her quote, black nutrition is label to try 1194 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and normalize amongst this growing movement the idea that there's 1195 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: no such thing as good and bad food. And here's 1196 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, okay, so I think that people should 1197 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves. I don't think that if you 1198 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: are overweight or struggling in this department that you're a 1199 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: bad person. I think that that part of like fat 1200 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: acceptance bodies. I think that's such a positive thing. And 1201 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 1: also the fact that the like body standards now are 1202 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: different from even when I was in high school, Like 1203 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: just being like skinny is not the only thing that 1204 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: is now seen as desirable. I think that is a wonderful, 1205 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. I think it is flat out evil to 1206 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: do what this lady is doing and lie to people 1207 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: about what is good for them and what's not. And 1208 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: this is like actually really old strategy interacts. So in 1209 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: this is part this is actually part of why the 1210 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: federal health guidelines are bad because they bought into this 1211 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: notion that was pushed by you know, the sugar and 1212 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: the soft drink industries, et cetera, that oh, it's just 1213 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: calories and calories down. It doesn't matter where the calories 1214 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: come from or what they are. It's all neutral, and 1215 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about if it's sugar 1216 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: versus if it's like, you know, a vegetable or something 1217 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: else that's going to be healthier for you. All you 1218 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: have to worry about is overall calorie. So an oreo 1219 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: can be just as good a part of your diet 1220 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: as something else, ultimately is. So they're taking this very 1221 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: old strategy that they've employed with a lot of money 1222 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: backing it and a lot of fake research for years 1223 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: and decades, and they're now putting this like woke social 1224 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: justice label on it to try to make it sell 1225 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: in new era and it is grotesque to see. Yeah, 1226 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: it's really bad. And look, I mean on the ca 1227 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean I've been Obviously, people probably talk about it 1228 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: too much. My own health journey for calories and calories 1229 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: out Look, it can work for weight loss, you know, 1230 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: if you want to be able to incorporate an oreo, 1231 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: because you're going to literally lose your mind from eating 1232 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a quote unquote a whole diet. As long as you 1233 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: track every single thing, it's fine, Like it's not going 1234 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: to kill you. That being said, don't delude yourself that 1235 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: it has the same micro nutrient profile as something else 1236 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: that you're going to eat. If people focusing on that 1237 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: is actually probably people should eat however the hell they 1238 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 1: want to eat. Like I am not, I eat whatever 1239 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: the hell I want to Like, I just think that 1240 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 1: people should have accurate information and be able to make 1241 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: good health choices so that they're empowered. And I also 1242 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: think we need to make it obviously, my like broader 1243 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: societal critique is we need to make it a lot 1244 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: easier and more affordable to make those good choices. But 1245 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 1: you're right that the school nutrition it's a big thing. 1246 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny because yeah, there was a lot of 1247 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 1: kids get there what like their like main meal from. 1248 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: So that's why the school lunch programs are the most 1249 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: important programs in our country, absolutely, And I think they 1250 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: just went back during the pandemic they made it free 1251 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: for everybody across the county, which I really really supported, 1252 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: and now they've rolled that back. But yeah, like my 1253 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: kids went if they get the school breakfast for example, 1254 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: oftentimes it's like a honey bun or something or like 1255 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: some or like a pop to I mean, it's just 1256 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: like the worst crap you could possibly feed a child 1257 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: in the morning and sets you up for This is 1258 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 1: why calories calories in, calories out is such a sort 1259 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: of like basic and wrong premise because what does that 1260 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: set you up? You get a sugar spike, then you're 1261 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna crash, You're gonna feel like shit for the whole day, 1262 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna be set up to like have 1263 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 1: a good day of learning with that type of quote 1264 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: unquote fuel at the beginning of the day. So anyway, 1265 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: this is all it needs to be called out. I'll 1266 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: say calories and calories out is an important principle for 1267 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: weight loss because I see a lot of people out 1268 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: there eating lots of steaks, being like I'm just gonna 1269 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: lose weight because I'm going on a cardboard. It's like, dude, 1270 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: well if you need three thousand calories of fat, like 1271 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: you're still going to get fat. Now for health, it 1272 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: is not the same thing at all. So you got 1273 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: to put those two things apart. And I think that 1274 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: that again, this is it's nuanced. It's difficult. Also, your 1275 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: genetics play a massive role into you. Ude. You know 1276 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I got my blood caressed. I have, you know, like 1277 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: big problems pre diabetic. All my grandparents are diabetic, like 1278 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: I've Indians in South Asian in general are much more 1279 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: predisposed to that. The stuff that spikes my blood sugar 1280 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be the same thing and spikes your blood sugar. 1281 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of this is genetic, a lot of 1282 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: it is individual differences, a lot of it depends on metap. 1283 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of the stuff what drives 1284 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: me crazy too is about food and more is like 1285 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: it's all based around a goal of you want to 1286 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: feel good and then you want to live a long time. 1287 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: And when you think about it that way, you take 1288 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: out immediate weight loss and immediate all stuff they put 1289 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,959 Speaker 1: it on a thirty forty year time horizon. Obviously eating 1290 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: a doughnut all the time is bad. This is where 1291 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: it's ludicrous now, as you said, look, you know, people 1292 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't feel pressure or feelquote unquote bad about themselves. Yeah, 1293 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: like maybe you've got some work to do, or maybe 1294 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: if you don't care, that's fine. It's a free country. Yeah, 1295 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you can do what I want it, Like, I want 1296 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: to indult in these physics. I don't really give a shit, 1297 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: but then you should know, like you're probably going to 1298 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: live as long, you're probably you know, not gonna be 1299 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: able to pick up your grandkids whenever you're old. Like, 1300 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: these are all things I really want to do, so 1301 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to care about. You have to give people 1302 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: accurate info as to what they want and what they're 1303 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: actually choosing to do, and not cover up reality. It's like, yeah, 1304 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 1: that is when we start to get into dangerous sport. 1305 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: Info with alan judgment or shame shouldn't be a hard thing. 1306 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm really much, but there's so much money in this industry, 1307 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and that's how you end up with just like actually 1308 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: like evil insanity, like and I'm really worried about I'm 1309 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: really worried about that nutrition conference. I fear that they're 1310 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: going to cave to the drug industry again. There's a 1311 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 1: new nutrition study that's going viral right now, specifically about 1312 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, these fake guidelines about how like cereal and 1313 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: pop tarts are healthier for you than whole vegetables, again 1314 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: based on junk science funded by the fun And so 1315 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: if that science, which has been widely accepted by some 1316 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: people outside of like the online sphere, if that gets 1317 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: accepted by the government and gets included on like dietary 1318 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: guidelines dot gov, which they release every five years, look 1319 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: that determined school health guideline. Mean there's also downstream effects 1320 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that this ends up having on a population wide basis. 1321 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: So that's why we care about it. Bristoll, what are 1322 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: you taking a look at? I can hardly believe the 1323 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: story that I'm about to tell you. So the TLDR 1324 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: is this new text messages revealed how the former governor 1325 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: of Mississippi plotted to steal millions from the poor in 1326 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: order to build a fancy volleyball stadium for Brett Farre's daughter. 1327 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: That is not an exaggeration. That is literally what is 1328 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: alleged to have happened, and it is backed up now 1329 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: by newly revealed text messages and court violence. And to 1330 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,959 Speaker 1: make matters worse, the current governor is trying to cover 1331 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: up the truth. What I am about to tell you 1332 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: is so outrageous, corrupt, and disgusting that I can scarcely 1333 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: wrap my head around it. It is the most perfect 1334 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: example of socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the 1335 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: poor that I have ever seen. So in the nation's 1336 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: poor state, the welfare fund was plundered to give goodies 1337 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 1: to a rich NFL superstar, political elites and their cronies. 1338 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Buckle your seat belts, folks. First, though, we got to 1339 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: start way back in the Clinton administration. Bill Clinton decided 1340 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: to do what no Republican could have accomplished, and to 1341 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: end welfare as we know it. He eliminated the previous 1342 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: welfare program in favor of something called TAMPH, Temporary Assistance 1343 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: for Needy Families Now under the unlike the New Deal 1344 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: welfare program, TAMP was what's called a block grant. States 1345 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 1: get a certain amount of funding and with some legal limitations, 1346 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: can do with it whatever they want, and in Southern 1347 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: states like Mississippi, frequently they did not actually want to 1348 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: give the money to the poor families who really needed it. 1349 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Mississippi as a state is the most cruel to its 1350 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: struggling residents. In one year, according to a Jackson Free 1351 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: Press investigation, of the twelve thousand Mississippi residents who applied 1352 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 1: for tamp A, near one hundred and sixty five were 1353 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: actually awarded any benefits. Many residents who technically qualify for 1354 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: assistance have given up trying to actually obtain benefits because 1355 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: the process is so dehumanizing and the odds of success 1356 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: are so small. Essentially, in Mississippi, a state with record 1357 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: child poverty, welfare does not exist, at least not for 1358 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 1: the poor. But someone was getting all that money, and 1359 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: MOTI year investigation has revealed the way that government officials 1360 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: and their cronies fed like pigs at the trough off 1361 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: of that money that was intended to go to help 1362 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: the poor. A single politically connected charter school operator, Nancy 1363 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: new She is at the center of this fraud. Now 1364 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: nu is a major GOP donor. She's given thousands to 1365 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: the current governor of the state of Mississippi, that is 1366 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 1: Tate Reeves. Reeves actually filmed a campaign spot at one 1367 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: of her charter schools. She was also close friends with 1368 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: the wife of the former governor Phil Bryant. Bryant was 1369 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,919 Speaker 1: governor of the state while welfare funds were being pilfered 1370 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: by the millions to benefit Nancy New, among others. So 1371 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 1: over the length of the scheme, Nancy New and her 1372 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: son Zach netted more than one hundred and thirty six 1373 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: million dollars in state funds. State auditors say that seventy 1374 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,440 Speaker 1: seven million of those funds were actually misspent for illegal purposes, 1375 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: often to personally benefit themselves and their allies. They were 1376 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 1: two of the six individuals who have been indicted as 1377 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 1: part of the scheme and are personally accused of pocket 1378 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: at least four million dollars in state funds to fatten 1379 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 1: their own bank accounts. The vast majority of this cash 1380 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: came directly from welfare funds, again intended for the state's 1381 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: poor residents. But Nancy New and her son are now 1382 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: cooperating with authorities as part of a plea deal, and 1383 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: that is where Brett Farvre comes into the picture. So 1384 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Farv's daughter apparently plays volleyball at the University of Southern Mississippi. 1385 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: That's the same school where he played football, and daddy 1386 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 1: apparently wanted to buy his baby a fancy new stadium. 1387 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: Rather than ponying up the bucks himself, something that, given 1388 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: his extraordinary wealth, he could surely do. He decided to 1389 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: collaborate with Nancy New to try to secure the millions 1390 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: necessary from the state and his personal friend, Governor Bryant. 1391 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 1: As with their other schemes, the News sought millions for 1392 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,599 Speaker 1: Farv from the federal welfare funds that they had long 1393 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 1: treated as their personal slush fund. It wasn't just the stadium, 1394 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: though Farv was personally paid one point one million dollars 1395 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to deliver speeches that he never actually delivered. He also 1396 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: been fitted from millions in investments the News made to 1397 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: a medical technology company in which Farv was the lead 1398 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: outside investor. Governor Bryant helped out with that company too. 1399 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: During his time in office. He helped the Farv connected 1400 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: company to clear regulatory hurdles and to find new investors. 1401 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: And once Bryant left office, guess what is given a 1402 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: fat package of stock in that company as gratitude for 1403 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: his help. How nice? Now I should pause here to 1404 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,280 Speaker 1: say Governor Bryant and Brett Farv both deny wrongdoing. Farv 1405 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: says he had no idea the money was coming from 1406 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: welfare funds. He has paid back the no show speech money, 1407 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: though not the interest on the money, which he does 1408 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 1: also owe. Governor Bryant says he was not involved in 1409 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: the illegal company investments that The News are now facing 1410 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: charges of bribery, rocketeering, and embezzlement in connection with He 1411 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 1: also says he was not closely involved in the volleyball 1412 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: stadium scheme. However, newly revealed text messages say otherwise. In 1413 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: a new court filing reported on by Mississippi Today, text 1414 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,680 Speaker 1: messages between new and Bryant show a deep level of 1415 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: coordination on the five million dollars stadium project. Here is 1416 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: the lead of that story, they say. Quote text messages 1417 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: entered Monday into the state's ongoing civil lawsuit over the 1418 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 1: welfare scandal reveal that former Governor Phil Bryant pushed to 1419 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: make NFL legend Brett Faarr's volleyball idea a reality. The 1420 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: text show that the then governor even guided Farf on 1421 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: how to write a funding proposal so that it could 1422 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: be accepted by the Mississippi Department of Human Services. Quote 1423 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: just left Brett Farv Bryant text did nonprofit founder Nancy 1424 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: New in July twenty nineteen, can we help him with 1425 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,640 Speaker 1: his project? We should meet soon to see how I 1426 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: can make sure we keep your projects on course. Additional 1427 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: texts show Bryant coaching Farv and New on how their 1428 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 1: fraudulent volleyball proposal might pass muster to receive welfare funds 1429 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: from the federal block grant, giving direction about the specific 1430 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: type of details they would need for it to be approved, 1431 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: as the federal government strictly prohibits welfare funds from being 1432 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,560 Speaker 1: used for brick and mortar projects, like, for example, a 1433 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: volleyball stadium. In other texts, Varv is also seemingly concerned 1434 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,960 Speaker 1: about the media finding out that he is getting paid 1435 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 1: out of these welfare funds. In one text, he writes 1436 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,680 Speaker 1: to New, quote, if you were to pay me, is 1437 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: there any way the media can find out where it 1438 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 1: came from and how much? Well, it took a while, 1439 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: but the media did find out, and part of the 1440 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: reason it took so long is because of an apparent 1441 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: cover up by the current governor of Mississippi that would 1442 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: be Tate Reeves. There are signs that the current administration 1443 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: is attempting to protect the former governor and FARV. An 1444 01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 1: attorney who was originally representing the state's welfare department in 1445 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 1: a civil suit to reclaim the stolen dollars, was abruptly 1446 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: fired by current Governor Tate Reeves after that attorney subpoena 1447 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 1: the former governor's communications, including text messages related to the 1448 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: volleyball project. That attorney believes that his firing was politically motivated, 1449 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and lo and behold that civil investigation has appeared too 1450 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: slow since he abruptly dismissed, Reeves has never been able 1451 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to muster a direct answer about the real reason that 1452 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 1: he fired the attorney. What's more, even though the five 1453 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: million dollars stadium expenditure was the single largest fraudulent expenditure, 1454 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: it has suffered some reason been omitted from the civil 1455 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: lawsuit seeking to reclaim some of the stolen dollars. Now, 1456 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 1: Reeves says his office used an objective process to determine 1457 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 1: which expenditures they would seek to claw back, but he 1458 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 1: has given no specifics about why Farv's volleyball stadium green 1459 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: lit by the former governor. Per these text messages did 1460 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: not make the cut elites protecting their little club. Now, 1461 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: I might remind you that this is the same state 1462 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: and some of the same political players who have not 1463 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: been able to find sufficient funds to pay for residents 1464 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: of Jackson, the capital city, to have drinkable water, so 1465 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,839 Speaker 1: millions for a volleyball stadium, salaries, investments in well connected companies, 1466 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: and no show speech contracts for a rich NFL star, 1467 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: And this is what is coming out of the faucets 1468 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: of their residents. It is sickening beyond words. These people 1469 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 1: who have the nerve to rail against entitlements and welfare 1470 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: queens all of that, they are the most disgusting grifters 1471 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: of all reverse robinhoods, robbing from the poor to pay 1472 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the rich. And it just so happens that they are 1473 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 1: the rich. This story went so deep. It is my 1474 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: belief that the only reason and if you want to 1475 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber 1476 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: today at Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, Soacker real looking 1477 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 1: at it. Well, I've been spending a lot of time 1478 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks thinking about college amid the 1479 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: student loan debt cancelation episode again I'm happy people out 1480 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 1: there who got their ten K canceled are better off, 1481 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: but I'm reading very troubled that the corrupt college industry 1482 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: has not been dealta blow that it rightfully deserves. On Monday, 1483 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: I highlighted the recent cases of insane, woke bureaucrats at 1484 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 1: colleges doing their best to rip our society apart under 1485 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: false pretenses. Today, I want to go a level deeper 1486 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,759 Speaker 1: to the outright corruption that pervades the multi billion dollar industry. 1487 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,759 Speaker 1: Average tuition right now in the United States is forty 1488 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,759 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a year for a private university, twenty 1489 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 1: seven thousand for an out of state student, eleven thousand 1490 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 1: for in state, meaning that at best, a four year 1491 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 1: college degree at an in state college will cost a 1492 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 1: total of forty four thousand dollars. Tuition inflation is nearly 1493 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred percent over the last forty years. I've already 1494 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,440 Speaker 1: exposed how government backed student loans with no caveats contributed 1495 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: to this, So how do the colleges themselves justify it 1496 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly while pouring money into student services. In more, they 1497 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 1: have banked on the most simple thing they offer, prestige 1498 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 1: and certification. This is especially true at the IVY League level. 1499 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: During the coronavirus pandemic. They still charge sixty five thousand 1500 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 1: dollars a year to students to take classes on Zoom. 1501 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,920 Speaker 1: When asked why they didn't drop tuition, the answer was simple, 1502 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 1: A quote unquote college experience that they touted it is 1503 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 1: so important, was immaterial. What they were really charged for 1504 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: was the degree you get and their name that you 1505 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: can use for the rest of your life. The simple 1506 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: truth is that if you have a Harvard, Dartmouth, Yale, 1507 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,639 Speaker 1: or any other IVY League name on your resume, you're 1508 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: going to do a hell of a lot better in 1509 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: life than the average person. These collective institutions have a 1510 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: combined endowment larger than many small African nations and will 1511 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 1: do absolutely anything to protect their status, which brings us 1512 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: to the latest corruption the US News and World Report rankings. 1513 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: If you spend any time in supposedly elite circles, especially 1514 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: amongst Tiger parents, you will know this as an almost 1515 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 1: religious icon. It is the dream of high achieving parents 1516 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 1: across this country to get their kids into a Top 1517 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: twenty five or a top ten school. The Top twenty 1518 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 1: five is determined mostly by the US News and World 1519 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Report college rankings. That ranking means everything to the parent. 1520 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Thus it means everything to the universities, who know that 1521 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the parents that they need to builk hold it in 1522 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,640 Speaker 1: high esteem along with the kids. The US News and 1523 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: World Report list has been called into question several times 1524 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,599 Speaker 1: in the years over its existence, but the latest scandal 1525 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 1: involving the Ivy League reveals how corrupt the entire process is. 1526 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: Columbia University, a mainstay of the Ivy League and for 1527 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 1: years claiming with a number two or three spot on 1528 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 1: the US News and World Report list as one of 1529 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: the best colleges in the United States, recently dropped to 1530 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 1: a shocking eighteenth place. The saga began in March when 1531 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: a math professor who works at Columbia called in to 1532 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,680 Speaker 1: question his own employer statistics that it had submitted to 1533 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: US News and World Report, saying he found discrepancies in 1534 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 1: the sources of data that Columbia submitted. It is worth 1535 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 1: looking exactly into the data that the professor published, showing 1536 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 1: exaggerations on Columbia's part in several areas. First is class size. 1537 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: Columbia claimed eighty two percent of its undergrad classes have 1538 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 1: under twenty students and only eight point nine percent have 1539 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,600 Speaker 1: fifty or more. Using open source data at the university, 1540 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 1: the professor found actually it's more like sixty to sixty 1541 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: seven percent of the classes under twenty, and that in 1542 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 1: fact the rate of class size over fifty was overstated 1543 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: and worse, actually growing year over year. He also skewed 1544 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the notion that the faculty at Columbia were portrayed as 1545 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: far more educated and far more full time than they 1546 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: actually are in practice. But the true bullet to the 1547 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: head was funds used for instruction. Columbia's number two spot 1548 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 1: was in large part due to its funds used for 1549 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,640 Speaker 1: instruction claiming by the university that the professor showed. The 1550 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: university said it was spending three point one billion dollars, 1551 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 1: which works out to almost one hundred grand per student. 1552 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: The professor found that Columbia was in fact using money 1553 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 1: it spends on patient care expenses in its inflated figures 1554 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: that when you look at the financial statements Columbia gives 1555 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 1: to the government, it's completely different, by the tune of 1556 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: over a billion dollars. The reason the professor did this 1557 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: was not just to skewer his institution, but to show 1558 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: why the entire ranking system is absurd. How universities gained 1559 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: the system by doing exactly what Columbia did inflating and 1560 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: skewing stats on what is counted to boost their ranking. 1561 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: As he notes in his conclusion, students are poorly served 1562 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,799 Speaker 1: by rankings. To be sure, they need information when applying 1563 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 1: to colleges, rankings provide the wrong information. As many critics 1564 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,679 Speaker 1: have observed, every student has distinctive needs. Will University's offer 1565 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: is far too complex to be projected in a single parameter. 1566 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: He adds, the ranking is a failure because the supposed 1567 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: facts on which is based cannot be trusted. Eighty percent 1568 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: of US News ranking of our university is based on 1569 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: information reported by the university itself. This information is detailed 1570 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,799 Speaker 1: and subtle. The vetting conducted by US News is cursory 1571 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: enough to allow many inaccuracies to slip through. That is 1572 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 1: the point. Columbia just had a guy who was smart 1573 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: enough to point out how full of it that they were. 1574 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 1: This is more like a Lance Armstrong situation. Every single 1575 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,760 Speaker 1: other competitor is just as dirty, if not more so, 1576 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 1: meaning the list itself is meaningless. Corrupt and not useful. 1577 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: The brand is so strong, though, and so few people 1578 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,040 Speaker 1: will see this monologue or investigation. In all likelihood, they 1579 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: will just continue with business as usual. In fact, despite 1580 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,040 Speaker 1: the corruption of the list being exposed, the day a 1581 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: new one came out, schools on it blasted it out triumphantly. 1582 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,759 Speaker 1: Of course, it will bely more tuition costs, more bloated spending, 1583 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: more loans, more highly paid fake administrators. The college industry 1584 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: remains one of the most corrupt to exist in the 1585 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 1: United States. Last year alone, the government estimates we spent 1586 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 1: more than half a trillion dollars on post secondary institutions. 1587 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: It is immense and corrupt wealth transfer that capitalizes on 1588 01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 1: the dreams of the young and their parents who want 1589 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 1: them to get ahead. And the only way out is awareness. 1590 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: The more that we expose it, the more people will 1591 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: see and influence will decline. Until then, the corrupt rat 1592 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 1: race continues. That investigation is crazy. It's twenty one pages. 1593 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: It's written as and if you want to hear my 1594 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: reaction to Sagre's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at 1595 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 1: Breakingpoints dot com. All right, everybody, it is my pleasure 1596 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 1: to introduce you. Well you already know who they are 1597 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 1: to us. Come joining us now, friends and new colleagues. 1598 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Grimm and Emily Tashinski, the co hosts of Counterpoints, 1599 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: launching tomorrow. Welcome guys. It's fun to be here. Yeah, 1600 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 1: this is your set now too, So we have a 1601 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: few modifications for you. But yeah, more or less right here. 1602 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Well that's true, and people will see the modifications tomorrow, 1603 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:22,520 Speaker 1: so all the more reason to two ication reveal I 1604 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 1: have to. I didn't even have to plug that one. 1605 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,679 Speaker 1: Let's go and put this up there on the screen. 1606 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: We've been hurriedly making new graphics. I love this particular graphic. 1607 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,880 Speaker 1: This is going to be the wide screen. This is 1608 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,680 Speaker 1: what we're going to have in general. Emily, Ryan, I 1609 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: sent you guys your new monologue templates. I think they 1610 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 1: look amazing. We've got a nice little bottom graphic. Everything's debuting. Yeah, 1611 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Ryan's really had the smolder going on photograph for real. 1612 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Tell us how you guys feel. We did a video 1613 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 1: like this whenever we launched here on the KKF set. 1614 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,759 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it actually got a lot of views. 1615 01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: So tell us how you guys feel to be here, 1616 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: what you're most excited about how exactly want to change 1617 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 1: things up, keep things the same, Like what are you thinking? Well, 1618 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 1: Ryan likes to talk about this feelings, so I think, okay, 1619 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 1: this is how do you feel? Right? So for for 1620 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 1: better and for worse and some in some ways for better, 1621 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,719 Speaker 1: some ways for worse. Back at Rising, the production staff 1622 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: and very grateful for it, did a ton of like 1623 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 1: prep work for us. So sometimes we can just roll 1624 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 1: in and just just do the show like right away, 1625 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,720 Speaker 1: but otherwise just kind of all right, what do we 1626 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: gott next? What have we gotten next? What next? And 1627 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,640 Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to is crafting the show ourselves 1628 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: so that we're going to be picking. And also, you know, 1629 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,599 Speaker 1: there's so much content that Rising puts out that sometimes 1630 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: you're kind of reaching. Yes, that was that was actually 1631 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 1: one of our big, you know, big reasons we wanted 1632 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 1: to make a similar move was that same thing, because 1633 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: you just you know, the model over there is just 1634 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 1: as much content as you possibly can. And I mean 1635 01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: we helped to create that model, frankly, because in the 1636 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 1: early days were like, we just got to get this 1637 01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: thing going. You got to feed the algorithm. But at 1638 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: a certain point, yeah, you're doing a segment, and you're like, 1639 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't care about this topic. I don't think it's 1640 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 1: important for people to know about this topic. Like I'm 1641 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: just you know, it's not a good feeling to put 1642 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: things out in the world that you don't actually think 1643 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,599 Speaker 1: are important. So that makes a lot of sense to me, Emily, 1644 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: What did you guys think about in terms of the 1645 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: sort of like overall ethos of the show, your approach 1646 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: to it, the structure of it, what was sort of 1647 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 1: the thought that went into it? Well, And that's another 1648 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 1: thing I like about this model is that it's not 1649 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,599 Speaker 1: just we get to sort of put our fingerprints on 1650 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: the what we're covering, but also how we cover it. 1651 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 1: So I like that we're going to be able to 1652 01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 1: take a topic, for instance, I think we're going to 1653 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: talk about Ken Starr tomorrow in the news you passed 1654 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 1: away this week, and we don't have to do, you know, 1655 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 1: an eight minute segment. We can actually really say what 1656 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 1: does this tell us about our politics? What does the 1657 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 1: arc of this man and tell us about our politics, 1658 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,200 Speaker 1: and spend a little bit more time going into different 1659 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 1: things and in ways that we want to go into them, 1660 01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 1: even if they aren't perfect sort of news cycle fits, 1661 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 1: we can spend the time to give more contact. Something 1662 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,599 Speaker 1: I love about this format is, you know, a huge 1663 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,400 Speaker 1: portion of listenership is audio, and they're just gonna listen 1664 01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 1: to the entire thing they don't have. They don't even 1665 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: necessarily care like or know what the headline is or whatever, 1666 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 1: and so they may just stumble into that Ken Star 1667 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: segment be like, Wow, that's really interesting. I've never learned 1668 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: about Kent Star before, which is a fascinating figure in 1669 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: his own right. I'm kind of jealous that you guys 1670 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 1: get to cover that. So what are some other things 1671 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: that you got like in terms of programming, So it's 1672 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 1: going to be every Friday, obviously, I'm assuming you'll just 1673 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,840 Speaker 1: hit if there's some major, major things. But what you 1674 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: guys have been doing over at Rising has been kind 1675 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,760 Speaker 1: of the same thing, like taking a step back looking 1676 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,680 Speaker 1: at bigger stories, like give some people a preview. You 1677 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 1: don't have to give everything your whole run down a way, 1678 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,600 Speaker 1: but what are you guys thinking? And I think the 1679 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: format also allows you to go a little bit longer 1680 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 1: on the topics that really really need it, or if 1681 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 1: you're on a roll right, Sometimes people would feel like 1682 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,439 Speaker 1: if I'm winning and they're trying to shut down. Yeah 1683 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 1: you are, Crane are Ukraine Invasion Day. That was a 1684 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: thirty seven minute segment and that's still one of the 1685 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 1: highest rated segments that the show has ever done. Just 1686 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,679 Speaker 1: to show you, like, if if it's big news, people 1687 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: will watch the hell out of it. And sometimes people 1688 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,800 Speaker 1: would say, like, what do you mean you have to 1689 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 1: run like it's a it's it's not cable. What are 1690 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: you talking about? Actually you do. You have to stand 1691 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,719 Speaker 1: the scheduling right exactly, guess and all that we exactly, 1692 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,639 Speaker 1: so we have it set up and just the yeah, 1693 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 1: the turn and burn of we know we've got ten 1694 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 1: more segments. We've got to today. We got to move 1695 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 1: on from this one because otherwise we're going to literally 1696 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: be here all day and the show will never get out. 1697 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,760 Speaker 1: So I think that flexibility is really important. I'm really 1698 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,799 Speaker 1: excited to see you guys sort of put your spin 1699 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 1: on what the show looks like, what it feels like, 1700 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: what the vibe is, and you know, the list of 1701 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 1: topics that you're you've floated, look looking at the potential 1702 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 1: stock band and things like that are actually things that 1703 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,400 Speaker 1: we didn't get around to covering this week too. You know, 1704 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 1: sometimes we now have the opposite problem of like there's 1705 01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 1: more news in the week, then we're able to get 1706 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,519 Speaker 1: into the three days that we do the show. So 1707 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,799 Speaker 1: it'll be great to have you guys in there on Friday. 1708 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of news that's breaking Thursdays 1709 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 1: and Fridays now in the news cycle, so it'll be 1710 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 1: really easy. Yeah, And I was, and I was joking 1711 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: about like winning an argument. But what I what I 1712 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,840 Speaker 1: like about the show is that it's actually not an 1713 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 1: argument show. Like one of the reasons we called it 1714 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 1: kind of counterpoints is like here's a point. Yes, here's 1715 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 1: a counterpoint, all right, and now now we can now 1716 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 1: we can move on to the the next thing. We're 1717 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 1: not trying to actually win. And a lot of the 1718 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 1: times when I'm asking Emily a question, sometimes it's because 1719 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: I want to further conversation. I know she has a 1720 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 1: good point to make, and I'm trying to like tee 1721 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 1: that up. About half the time I genuinely don't know 1722 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 1: the answer, and I'm like curious, like it's a real question, 1723 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: like an authentic, actual question, not like a like I'm 1724 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 1: going to own you, not trying to move you into 1725 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 1: a corner and then oh, you've said this thing now 1726 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:51,880 Speaker 1: now by your logic, it's like, actually, we have two 1727 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: people here who are both thoughtful and have different opinions, 1728 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: and like, let's work through that in real time. I mean, 1729 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: that's I think why we felt really comfortable bringing you 1730 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: guys onto the channel, which is something that we are 1731 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a little nervous about, reluct well not 1732 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,880 Speaker 1: even about you, just not about you guys in general, 1733 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 1: but the idea of it. I mean, number one, you 1734 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: guys have been an important part of helping create Rising 1735 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and make it what it was, helping to create breaking 1736 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: points of making what like, you guys were original friends 1737 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 1: of the show on you know, the colection panels and 1738 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,640 Speaker 1: all that stuff over at Rising, so we obviously have 1739 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 1: a great level of comfort with you, but we also 1740 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,680 Speaker 1: felt like you really get that kind of core ethos 1741 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 1: of like, you know, I think at our best, my 1742 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 1: ideal goal for the show is to be able to 1743 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 1: show that we can disagree and it's okay and it 1744 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have to like break apart the union. And I 1745 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,880 Speaker 1: do feel like, yeah, if I can't have like a 1746 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: actually like a real hard disagreement with Soger and be 1747 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 1: able to like work through that, then what hope is 1748 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,240 Speaker 1: there for the country at large? So that's kind of, 1749 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, always been my best hope for this show, 1750 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: and what I think you guys have really demonstrated a 1751 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,800 Speaker 1: great ability to do in good faith as well over 1752 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: at Rising and so we're excited to have you here. 1753 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,680 Speaker 1: We're excited to and people are smart, like if you like, 1754 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 1: if you show people the same contrast that you want 1755 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,559 Speaker 1: to get to, as Ryan's talking about, like I actually 1756 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 1: want to know what's different here and what's the same. Yeah, 1757 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Like that's what I feel like all of us need, 1758 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Like me as a viewer. It's the thing that I 1759 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 1: love about breaking points, Like viewers don't need to be handheld, 1760 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,040 Speaker 1: like CNN tries to handhold people from point A to 1761 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 1: point B, so you know, in any other differing view exactly, 1762 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: they're gatekeepers. But like we just have a conversation and 1763 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,680 Speaker 1: try to get to what the actual contrast is and 1764 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 1: then we can all think about what the road forward 1765 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 1: looks like. It really comes through people. It's the thing 1766 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,040 Speaker 1: that people love the most about the show, And when 1767 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,600 Speaker 1: every time I meet them, you know, sometimes some of 1768 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the things people say are like really heavy where they're like, 1769 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 1: really improve my relationship with my dad. Crystal. I was like, gee, 1770 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: don't put that on. But we found a way to 1771 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,760 Speaker 1: be able to talk about these things where we don't 1772 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,519 Speaker 1: just like hate. He's like, I'm more like Crystal is, 1773 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 1: but you made me understand like what my dad means 1774 01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 1: when I was like wow, and people are people are 1775 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 1: starting to get it. And actually the corporation that bought 1776 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Hill Hill Hill TV called next Star, they actually have 1777 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 1: the right diagnosis. They think that cable news is completely 1778 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,719 Speaker 1: broken and people don't trust it anymore. Their solution is wrong, 1779 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 1: like the solution they're coming forward. It's like we're going 1780 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 1: we're going to be the ones who are down the 1781 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,559 Speaker 1: middle and fair. That doesn't that doesn't work, That doesn't 1782 01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,920 Speaker 1: scan to either side. So they're diagnosis right. But I 1783 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: think the answer is give people options, like give people 1784 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 1: different viewpoints and then let them decide for themselves. I 1785 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 1: talk to a ton of people who watch CNN, Fox 1786 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: and M and SNBC because they want to get because 1787 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 1: they don't trust any of them. But they think if 1788 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,840 Speaker 1: they get enough of the different viewpoints, then they can 1789 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 1: decide for themselves and here we're just kind of doing 1790 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 1: that all one place. It's good for people. Yeah, it's 1791 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,080 Speaker 1: good for people not to mostly be in ideological bubbles. 1792 01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Like it's good. It's like sometimes I wish Soger would 1793 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: just agree with me on everything, but I know, ultimately 1794 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 1: it's fun. There is no fun in that. And I 1795 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 1: mean I get a lot out of our exchange. I 1796 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: get out a lot. A lot on preparing for our 1797 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,720 Speaker 1: exchange is because I know I'm not going to just 1798 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,759 Speaker 1: have somebody there who's going to amen me on everything, 1799 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,640 Speaker 1: and it's actually going to challenge me. So I have 1800 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: to bring like the best argument that I possibly can. 1801 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: And it's caused me to like rethink some of the 1802 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 1: ways that I approach my you know, my views, my 1803 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 1: values in the way that I want to you know, 1804 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,320 Speaker 1: live in this world and approach politics. So I think 1805 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a beneficial thing. Obviously, we believe in it. We 1806 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 1: have seen you guys, you know, living a lot of 1807 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 1: the same values and are just excited to see what 1808 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: you are putting together. Our honored that you have decided 1809 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,679 Speaker 1: to thank you. I was always choosing us. Yeah, really, 1810 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: I think we mean it when it's we say that 1811 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 1: it's an honor for us because what you guys have 1812 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 1: built here, I think it's so important. I've covered it 1813 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,639 Speaker 1: at the Federals how important this is. So it's truly 1814 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 1: an honor and we're very excited. It's not us awesome 1815 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,639 Speaker 1: truly is all about them. As we have said, we've 1816 01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,680 Speaker 1: got an ten keep saying ninety ten percent discount for 1817 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:08,320 Speaker 1: the annual you get ten percent off. Let's throw the 1818 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,759 Speaker 1: graphic up there one more time. Counterpoints for the annual membership. 1819 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: It helps fund this other expansion status coup the reporting 1820 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 1: to be able to send reporters to wherever anything is happening. 1821 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 1: By the way, you guys will benefit from that. You'll 1822 01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: have live But if you if you ever want to 1823 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,840 Speaker 1: dispatch Jordan or anywhere or one of his camera in 1824 01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: great help and we can we can send a reporter 1825 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,559 Speaker 1: out onto the ground and have exclusive footage like we 1826 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: did at Jackson. This stuff costs a lot of money, guys. 1827 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 1: You know the studio, the technical the graphics, the reporting, 1828 01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: all the other contributors. Max had that awesome railway segment. 1829 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,200 Speaker 1: These things are things that you alone are funding. Can 1830 01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 1: ever rely on the YouTube and Spotify gods to just 1831 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,400 Speaker 1: show up for us one day, So thank you all 1832 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 1: so much. We've got that link in the description and 1833 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: they will see you all yes tomorrow and it will 1834 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,280 Speaker 1: be distributed so their show will come out just like 1835 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: ours does. There's no extra price for whatever. You're a 1836 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: premium member, you're going to get it just like you 1837 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,639 Speaker 1: got breaking points, so you know we'll be in your inbox. 1838 01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that show right where noon is the deciding point, 1839 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 1: so for premiums it will come out at noon. For 1840 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,679 Speaker 1: everybody else one pm Eastern standards. Yeah, California people, don't worry. 1841 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 1: He'll still watch it in the morning. I don't want 1842 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 1: to hear about it indeed, So good luck to our guys. 1843 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 1: We're very excited. And then Krystal and are going to 1844 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 1: meet Atlanta, so that'll be fun. And if we feel 1845 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 1: like it, maybe we'll put some clips out of it. 1846 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Stay tuned to see how it goes. We'll see you 1847 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:24,479 Speaker 1: guys later