1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of Hot 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, and 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: we thank you for joining us. It's a brand spanking 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: new edition of The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallor and 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Danny G. Radio. I know that's a surprise. You probably figured, 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: since I was away from my watch post on radio, 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: that I would not be here. But no, no, the 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: podcast must continue no matter what. So abraca dabber, here 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: we are and a special with Asian. I had teased 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: this on the radio show earlier in the week before 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I took my brief hiatus. Will explain more about that 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: on the Saturday podcast. But anyway, listen, this is somebody 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to have on. I mentioned his name on 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: a previous podcast a while back when I was a 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: kid growing up watching this gentleman on TV, and now 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: as an adult here I am a middle aged human being. 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: I hope I'm middle aged. Who knows. You never know 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: how old you going to live? Watching football on TV. 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: When I would see this guy call a game up 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: until the last couple of years and I would hear 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: his voice, I immediately went nostalgia, and I would flash 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: back to when I was a little kid, fat Benny, 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be a sportscaster, and I wanted 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to talk about sports on radio and television and all that, 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: and I would watch these games, and so I flashed 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: back to that. The great Brent Musburger, a Hall of 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Fame broadcaster, the man that helped create the modern phrase 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: or the modern pregame show, I should say, the the 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: NFL today. He's also he coined the phrase march madness, 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: and you are looking wive as well. So so known 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: for that and so many other things, and over the years, 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you the man's resume. The 38 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. But Brent Musburger, he was the 39 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: voice of college football for a number of years. Uh 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: he was involved in the n c A men's basketball tournament. 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned the phrase march madness, which he popularized in 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: his day, and he's called the Final four of course, 43 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: with for that the NBA Finals, the Super Bowl, the 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: World Series, US Open, Tennis, the Masters, pretty much everything 45 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: other than hockey. He was raised in Billings, Montana, Brett Musburger, 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and he just recently stepped down after doing play by 47 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: a for the Las Vegas Raiders. He still very much 48 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: active in sports media. He helped found and he's the 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: managing editor of the Vegas Stats and Information that work 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: at gambling outfit based in Vegas, and he will still 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: be part of that, very much a part of that. 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Visten and so see Brent Musburger on that through the 53 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: football season. But we had a chance to catch up 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: the Brent from his humble abode in Montana, and what 55 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: an honor it is to speak to the great Brent Musburger. Brent, 56 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I thank you. I know you're 57 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: very busy. Thank you spent some time with this. So 58 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: this past NFL offseason we mentioned it. You were the 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: play by play voice of the Raiders from until this 60 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: past year. You decided to put the mic down again. 61 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: This your second retirement. You retired from Network TV a 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: few year is back and so now you're stepping away 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: from the Raiders. So the question here, Brent is why 64 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: was the time right? My eyes are now eighty three 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: years old. Those radio puss boxes they keep putting them 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: higher and higher. My binoculars keep getting stronger and stronger. 67 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I needed more time, more 68 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: time to spend on my VS. I in owned by 69 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Draft Kings. Got to take part in all the contests 70 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Enjoy them. I'm up here in uh, 71 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Montana with the family right now. So things are good, 72 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: and I hope the Raiders do well. They got a 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: tough first five games in that schedule. At opening game 74 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, Chargers favored by three and a half 75 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. And I'm sure the Chargers will remember 76 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: what happened to them on the last game a year ago, 77 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: knocking the Chargers out of the playoffs with Daniel Carlson's 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: six field goals and win a game in the last 79 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 1: few minutes, and so I'm sure the Chargers haven't forgotten 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herberts, one of the best young quarterbacks in the 81 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: in the FFL. They'll be ready. Khalil Mack now a 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Charger and Uh the Raiders played him when he was 83 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: at Chicago Bear once and he was full of fire. 84 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: He came right after Derek car caused us a whole 85 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: lot of double in that game. That was the only 86 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: time they've had to face khaliluding him to the Chicago 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Bears when John first came in. So I gonna be 88 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: a very very interesting season a f C West obviously 89 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: the toughest NFL well, absolutely, And as far as the 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: play by play stuff, you guys of the press boxes 91 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: all the way up now near the roof in these stays, 92 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: where are you gonna miss most? I know you retired 93 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago from TV. You've got obviously the 94 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: radio network, which you talked about in Vegas and whatnot. 95 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: But as far as just the the meat and potatoes 96 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: of play by play, what are you What are you 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna miss most about calling the games on Sundays? I 98 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: would probably the excitement, Uh, probably the reaction from the 99 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: fans when good things. I mean, there's a big difference. 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time during college football play 101 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: by play, and people always ask me to college in 102 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, I'd say it's the reaction of the fans. 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: The fans are entirely different. In the college game, it's 104 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: a celebration every Saturday. You've got the bands at halftime, 105 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: you've got all the cheerleaders down on the field. With 106 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, it's you know how you're doing? Are you 107 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: getting in the end zone? That's when the fans go 108 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: crazy because they want their team to win. But it's 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: an entirely different scene around the stadiums in the NFL 110 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: and in college almost almost the reaction of the fans 111 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: at both levels, To tell you the truth, that will 112 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: be the one thing. I'm a Segon ticket over the Raiders, 113 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: so I'll be there for all the home games and 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: talking to the fans. And the nice thing is I 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: can break a cold one before the opening kick off. 116 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: I don't have to wait until after it's all over, 117 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: like when I was when I was broadcasting. You know 118 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: what I mean. I hear you on that and your 119 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: your last partner in the booth with the Raiders. Lincoln Kennedy. Lincoln. 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Actually I worked with Lincoln at Fox Sports Radio. Great 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: guy and so massive human being, Lincoln Kennedy. People don't 122 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: realize how how huge, tall, and just husky a person 123 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln is. He's a He's a great guy. I'm sure 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: he had fun doing these games with Lincoln over the 125 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: last a few years. Yeah, you know, Lincoln is just 126 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, just a wonderful, wonderful I actually 127 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: haven't around his rackets along. I actually covered him doing 128 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: play by play when he was playing for the Washington 129 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Huskies and Don James. So that's why I first met 130 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy of an absolute pleasure working alongside him for 131 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: four seasons with with the Raiders and Lincoln Lincoln is 132 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: just a wonderful, wonderful person. Could be around. Away from 133 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: the game, he would I I would fall in while 134 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: we go into the stadium, and I make sure I 135 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: get Lincoln about old five steps in front of me, 136 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and I just falling behind him, you know, like a 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: good running back, and he just cleared away from me. 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I hear you. I hear 139 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you on that. Uh now, can you share the secret? 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: But you mentioned your age. You haven't not lost your 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: fastball though, and you've been doing broadcasting for so long. 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: Are you gonna continue, as you said when you've got 143 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the gambling network in Vegas? How do how do you 144 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: get to that point? Well? I think you have to 145 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: be a fan of the game and the people. Uh. 146 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I watch a lot of baseball because I grew up 147 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: a baseball fan. But in the old days, baseball was 148 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: more a sports of characters, and now it's a sport 149 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: of statistics. And to tell you the truth, I think 150 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: the baseball is making a mistake. Um. For example, I 151 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: was watching here a judge. It is Pully fourth home, 152 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Wrong Life night against Seattle on television, and nobody don't 153 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: care about the exit velocity. I'm interested and and why 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Judges off to such a great start. What kind of 155 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: a percity is? What it feels like chasing Roger Marris's record. 156 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: So I've always been a people guy, but I always 157 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: get excited about people doing good things. Listen, truth of matters. 158 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: I would love to have played any game, be at baseball, football, basketball, 159 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: but I was never that could have an athlete, And 160 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: so I realized at a very young age that I 161 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: wanted to be around and I like the people. I'm 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: a people guys, So I still get excited even though 163 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the Raider games. I'll be there as 164 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: a season ticket older pulling form. I think I think 165 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: the key is to stay enthused about the product and 166 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: um at the bottom. I'm I'm a fan of the games. Uh. 167 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I love watching great context, great athletes, no matter what 168 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the sport. Is that a matter to me? I mean, 169 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: I certainly grew up a soccer fan, but I can 170 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: sit there and watch a good Premier League team or 171 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Champions League game, uh, real with I've got friends in 172 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Las Vegas who had bets on Real Madrid against the Liverpool. 173 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: It was kind of interesting watching the game. So it 174 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm you know, it's the best form of 175 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: entertainment for me is sports. It's a grand escape from 176 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the problems that have One great writer wrote, you know, 177 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: life's a bitch and then you die, and none of 178 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: the great escapes that you have during that journey is 179 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: to follow sports. And that's what I've done. Does maybe 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: it was people on broadcasting game or not. I'm interested 181 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: in the outcome. Yeah, And it does seem over the years, 182 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: you've called every major sporting event just about it. I 183 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: don't think have you done hockey over the years, Brent, 184 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember you doing question. That's the 185 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: only one. It's funny to bring that up. People ask 186 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: me that, and I said, you know, hockey is the 187 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: only one. Now, I did cover it as a columnist 188 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: in Chicago before I came in broadcaster. I covered the 189 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: black Hawks. Actually, Bobby holl was a dear friend. That 190 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: was It was a great team with Bobby holland stand Makita. 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: But that was the old six team natural Hockey League. 192 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: And I tell people that at the level that they 193 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: operated at, that was the greatest league I was ever around. 194 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: And uh, they deluded with expansion, but understandably so. And 195 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: there were enough great players coming up and my life 196 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: and I go to watch the Golden Knights and I 197 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: love to watch it. But to go back to your question, 198 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and I say, the only advantage I had not calling hockeys. 199 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have to run out to pronounce all those names. 200 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: So we all laugh about that type of thing. But yeah, 201 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: hockey is Hockey is the one that I never did 202 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: play by play for. You're right, Brent Musburger is there. 203 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't you don't have favorite kids or whatever, but 204 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: it's a play by play guy. I college football. You're 205 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the voice of that for some long big NBA games, 206 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: of course associated with the NFL. What's is there a 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: favorite though you mentioned you love baseball. You still watch 208 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: baseball watching Aaron Judge the other night hit a home run. 209 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Is there a favorite particular sport that you enjoyed covering 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: more than any other. No, I will tell you I 211 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up a baseball fan and not 212 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: around television. People don't understandable. I grew up in the 213 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: fifties up in Montana. It was radio that we followed 214 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: baseball on the game of the week back in the day. 215 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: And then of course I make a school with the 216 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: prep school Minnesota in the Northwestern So television came in 217 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: and the marriage between the football and televisions were elevated. 218 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Football past baseball. Baseball remains a game that you need 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: to go see in person. Uh. You can still watch 220 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: it on TV, as I do, but occasionally, a couple 221 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I went to a minor league game. Uh. 222 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: And you go with friends and there's a lot of 223 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: time to converse. Uh. It's it's more of a social 224 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: event than football because there's a lot of more dead time. 225 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: But football and television are made for each other because 226 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: of the rhythm of the game, and you can get 227 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: the replays in what's happening in football through the years 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: is people realize that it's a better watch on television 229 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: at home in the stadium. So the franchises and the 230 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: colleges realized, we've got to do something, and they put 231 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: in these gigantic, gigantic scoreboards up in the end zone 232 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: so that they can show them the fan in the 233 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: stadium the replays like the folks are seeing at home. 234 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,479 Speaker 1: It was the marriage. It was the marriage between television 235 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: and football that elevated football ahead of baseball as a 236 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: national pastime. Basketball. It's kind of interesting because it works 237 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: on it works on both levels, uh, being at a 238 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: basketball game because it's far more intimate. Your crowds are 239 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: down around twelve fifteen thousands opposed to sixty seventy five 240 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: at a football game forty five for baseball game. But 241 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: you can watch a big time basketball game like Mark 242 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Madness and you can enjoy it as much on television. 243 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't last that long. The one thing about basketball 244 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: is it's a lot more compact baseball. Baseball has a 245 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: time problem right now. Uh goodness. When I I used 246 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: to cover the Cups, I guess I covered everybody in Chicago. 247 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: But Bob Gibson would come to town with the Cardinals, 248 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: and invariably he would hook up against Fergus and Jenkins. 249 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: And I tell people this all the time that our 250 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: games lasted five less than two hours. These guys will 251 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: be done with the with the game. I mean, they 252 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: get the ball back and they just started it. And 253 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: also the hitters, the hitters today if you watch them 254 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: on television, but they step back out of the box 255 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: and uh, they were the batting gloves and they have 256 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: to reset the tape on them for whatever reasonable. Back 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: in the day that I'm talking about, only a handful 258 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: even walk atting gloves and they didn't step out of 259 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: the box. They just cap to and played, maybe with 260 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: the bad gap, ready for the next pitch. But now 261 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the speed of a game of baseball is a problem. 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna deal with it. I think they're gonna bring 263 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: in a pitch clock, uh and see what they do 264 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: about speeding it up, because they baseball has has a 265 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: problem with the younger generation and they and they have 266 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: to address it. Uh, and they have to get to it, 267 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and they will. It's still it's still a wonderful game 268 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and a wonderful way to spend a summer afternoon or 269 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: or a summer evening, whatever the case might be. Yeah, 270 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: well you you're okay with the change we saw. We've 271 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: seen in the last couple of years, a ghost runner. 272 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: When COVID started, they added the ghost runner in baseball. 273 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: They're they're getting rid of that, They're getting rid of 274 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: the shift that's coming. Next year, they're gonna have robot umpires. 275 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: How do you how do you feel about robot umpires brand? Well, 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: since I uh, I spent a year on party in 277 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: my leagues, I'd set against it, uh because I think 278 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: if you go back to people like Earl Weaver and 279 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: uh some of the great antics that he would pull 280 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: off against that, that's part of the human part of 281 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the game. So I'm against it. I think players strike out, 282 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: spring into bad pitches, and occasionally the umpire will call 283 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: him out on a bad pastion. The human equation is good. 284 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind instant replay so much. They 285 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: seem to be moving that along. I'm dead set against 286 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: the ghost runner uh in the tenth and I think 287 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: that's hockey. And I think if and I understand why 288 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: they want they don't want to abuse pitchings that I 289 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: got all that, but I wish that they would say, uh, 290 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: we can have a tenth inning and eleventh inning with 291 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: no runners put on base automatically, and then maybe the 292 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: twelfth and something like that would adjust it. The shift 293 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: is rather interesting to me because I think when they 294 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: do away with it, and all the gossip indications that 295 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it, they're gonna have two in fielders 296 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: on either side of sector base. They are going to 297 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: have more base runners, especially left handed hitters. They're gonna 298 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: hit those ground balls between the first and second basement 299 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: in the right field. I see at least at least 300 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: one a game because they said that that spare in 301 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: fielder against left handers deep into right field, short right, 302 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: and he throws them out time after time. So but 303 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: whether or not that's gonna help with the speed of 304 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: the game, obviously, they've got to get to a pitch clock, 305 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: and uh, they need to hurry up some of the 306 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: mound meetings. Even even to they tried. But I wish 307 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: him well and trying to do it even a little 308 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: bit more. So let's see, let's see how it works out. 309 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely back to you, though, Brent, You've done it all 310 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: in your career, mostly recently over the last few decades 311 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: play by play, But you were one of the great 312 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: studio hosts, and we'll get to that in a minute. 313 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: But what is the harder, harder skill to have for you? 314 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Was it doing the studio show or doing the play 315 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: by play? What what came more naturally to you? Well 316 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: back of the day with the studio obviously the local 317 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: news on the ten and the six, and then the 318 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: NFL today with with Phyllis and Irvan and Jimmy the Greek. Yeah, 319 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: actually probably requires more time to get ready for a 320 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: studio show play by play. You let the action come 321 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: to you and the game will decide you know where 322 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: you're going to go. But they were both both very 323 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: satisfying differ in their own way. I knew early on 324 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: at the studio guy that eventually I was going to 325 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: move to UH. I played the studio belonged to two 326 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: younger people, UH taking over in there and that's good. 327 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: And one led to another, so it was, it was. 328 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: It was a great transition and then UH perfect way 329 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: for me to to get out and then came back 330 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: into the studio of course with the Vegas status of 331 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: information networking Las Vegas, and that's where I'll be again, 332 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: especially on the Fridays the football season leading up, because 333 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: we've got the college football and then we've gone NFL 334 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: coming up of a week one. My goodness, we've got 335 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: college football coming on Saturday, August. My Northwestern wildcatsle be 336 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: in double in Ireland to play the Nebraska corn Huskers, 337 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: opening up with a big ten game. And uh, I 338 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: noticed that the Huskers are an eleven point favorite, So 339 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not my Wildcats can can come on and get 340 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: inside that. But I was just before you called, actually, 341 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: I was looking at the schedule in the and then 342 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: college will keep going on that Thursday, September one, as 343 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: well as the second, and they'll go right up through 344 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: the Labor Day. On Monday, September five, Clemson will play 345 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Clemson obviously a huge favorite of that game. 346 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: It's going to be played in Atlanta. But probably the 347 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: game that the college football fans should circle on that 348 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend is on Sunday September four down in 349 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Florida State and l s U. And I 350 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: think that's just gonna be a monster. Great guy to 351 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: both those teams so many times over the years, great 352 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: fan bases and the seminars might be a little bit 353 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: better than people think they are. They've been in a 354 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: rebuilding situation near the last few years and you played 355 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: l A two and A quite the big story there 356 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: was Coach Telly leading Notre Dame to become the go 357 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: down at baton move and I wish you nothing but 358 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: the best. I actually first met him when he coached 359 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: at UH Cincinnati and we became good friends, and I 360 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: he's fascinating story because he's a son of politicians out 361 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: of Massachusetts and he is a little bit like a politician. 362 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: I've teased him about it through the years and that 363 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: will help him. You know, he tried a little bit 364 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: too hard with the Southern accent when he was introduced 365 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: down there at ls He'll get'll get beyond that, and 366 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: he will find that there's an unbelievable talent base down Louisiana. 367 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Nick Saban once told me that when he came to 368 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the coach at l s U, he closed the border. 369 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: That was the first thing he did recruit get the 370 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: best of the athletes of LHU and Brian Kelly does that. 371 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: The Tigers will be back before you can, before you 372 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be I think they're really good. Well, 373 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: Brett's beaking a college football here. I gotta get your reaction. 374 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: You're a Big ten guy. You covered all the big 375 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: college football games for years, and now the news in 376 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: recent weeks here that U c l A and USC 377 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: are going to join the Big Ten. They're heading to 378 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. And it's your reaction to that. The 379 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Big Ten is gonna go from Los Angeles to New 380 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: Jersey now with Rutgers on the east coast, in Maryland 381 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: on the east coast, and then back all the way 382 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: across the country to l A. Is this a good 383 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: fit or is this a disaster in the making. You know, 384 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I'm not usually shocked by anything. 385 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: I've been around too long and too old. But I 386 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: was definitely definitely surprised when USC and U c l 387 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: A I made that announcement. But then again, when you 388 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: think about what happened with the FCC taking Oklahoma and 389 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Texas away from the Big twelve, the Big tents that 390 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: we better expand our tv UH footprint, and that's exactly 391 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: what they did. They go coast to coast. So we're 392 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna wind up with the with the super conferences we'll 393 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: see if the pack what remains of the Pack twelve, 394 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: guess we can say Packed ten again and the Big 395 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: twelve they might get together. And of course do not 396 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: forget on the East coast there still sitting over there. 397 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: So so we shall see. We shall see what happens. 398 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: As for the kids that USC and U c l A. 399 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: They better get ready for for some long airplane trips, 400 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, because you pointed out 401 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: that they extend back to the University of New Jersey 402 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: taking on Rutgers. And then there's there's pen stake. But 403 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: it allows the Big Ten to sell not only an 404 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: early game on a Saturday, but a mid afternoon game 405 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: and then they can go to an evening game because 406 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: they would have USC and U c l A and place. 407 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Now I think there's still another ship that could fall. 408 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Wait and see, I'm kind of curious about what Notre 409 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Dame is finally going to decide if if Notre Dame 410 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: were to join the Big Ten. And my old friend 411 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: Jim Delaney tried for a long time. He thought he 412 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: had the Irish coming in, but they decided not to 413 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: join the Big tam But should that decide now, I 414 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: would think that the Big Ten would then bring Stanford 415 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: in and also another team from the West coast. And 416 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: that's another bible for Notre Dame. But we'll see, we'll 417 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: see what's a head down the road. It's it's always 418 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: interesting obviously money talks with the television contracts and and 419 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: you can't you can't blame the conferences are trying to 420 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: do well for their individual schools and uh and those 421 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: of us who like to watch college football on TV, 422 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: we win because we're gonna have nothing but great games 423 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: on every weekend. Yeah, what a different world. Okay, you 424 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: have n I L deals now, name image, likeness for 425 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the players, You've got the TV money is through the roof, 426 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and so it's a whole new world. And when you 427 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: were doing all the college football games, traveling around and 428 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: all that, was what was your favorite stop on the 429 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: college football tour? Did you have one in particularly you love? Yeah, 430 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: this is kind of interesting because there's so many on 431 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: the college football triple One that I said it was 432 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: a sleeper is no longer a sleeper. It has been discovered. 433 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: And that was Clemson. Um, Clemson was you know, a 434 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: nice southern team and uh, more of a regional school. 435 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: They weren't known nationally, but a great place to go. 436 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: They always spell down the prior to the game. That 437 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: was my that was my sleeper. Stop. Now there's all 438 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: the other ones. I mean, my goodness, we mentioned l 439 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: s U. Let me tell you something that and rouge 440 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night. Don't getting better? And uh I 441 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: missed an over dame when NBC got the contract and 442 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: the way they went. But there's so many to go. Uh, 443 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: my friend, I've got time for one more question. My 444 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: wife has staying on it right now. All right, Well, 445 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to take away 446 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: from that. And I appreciate your time very much here, Brent, 447 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: but we'll we'll get you out on this one. Brent. 448 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Here the catch phrases right here. You're so many There 449 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: was a Brent Mussburger drinking game a few years ago. 450 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: How did those originate? You're looking live and all the others? 451 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: You pick that in origin? It's a looking live. Bob 452 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: Fisherman was the original director of the NFL today. His 453 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: father gambled on football, and so when you gamble on football, 454 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: you obviously know other gambles. It's it's it's a social 455 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: activity other people realize social gambling on sports really is. 456 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: So Bob's father had a friend who lost the game 457 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: and he blamed it on the fact that he didn't 458 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: know the weather. He said to Mr Fishman, is there 459 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: a way? Is there a way that I can show 460 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: me the pictures so I know what the weather is 461 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: on a Sunday at the NFL. So Bob jokingly mentioned 462 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: that the meeting was producer Mike Purl, myself were the 463 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: three of us. We laughed and um we sat. I thought, well, listen, 464 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: what about a live shot of a stadium? So we 465 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: did it. I said, well, here's what will do pop, 466 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: I said, let me just say you are looking live. Okay, 467 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: let's try it. So we tried it on one stadium 468 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: that first week, and then the next week box up front. 469 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: What if I gave you three stadiums in succession where 470 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: we're going? And I said, you mean you can meet 471 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Soldier Field in Chicago and you Cowboys Stadium down in 472 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: Texas and the Rams were still in the College sum 473 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: alongst Yeah, I said, I can do that. I said, okay, 474 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: I said, I'll use you are looking live on all 475 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: of them. But you gotta you gotta do one thing 476 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: for me, Bob, And he said, what's that print? I said, 477 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: don't roll. And the tape it's gotta be alive if 478 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it all laugh. And that's how it 479 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: came to be my friend. You are lucky live. Okay, 480 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: here we go all think you'll take care. Okay, Thank 481 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: you a lot,