1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sulise, John Oshans 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: Bran Jacks Drive starts right now. If you said in January, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: what would be your ideal vision of what the team 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: look like in what is May? And once again, I'm 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: not talking about execution. I'm just talking about camaraderie, ownership, work, ethic, sports, performance, 6 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: changing bodies, health of players. You know, I created an 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: A plus. I can't be more happy with everybody talks 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: about the draft and free agency. I'm not gonna let 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: people forget there's a great core group of players in 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization that want to win, and uh, it's 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: our coach's job to give them an opportunity to win. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: So they're all here. They all enjoyed being around each other, 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: they enjoyed being around the staff, and uh, it's been 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: It's been really good. Another week of O t a 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: S ninety guide and attend last week one d attendance. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: Gotta love that we're here. Jaguars Drive Time, Ashland Salvin, 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Osier. Happy Memorial Day to you. 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: We hope everyone had a great weekend. Didn't hate having 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: a day off, I won't admit it. How would you guys, 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: You will admit I will admit it. Yeah, it was good. 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: It was three days in May and now we're back 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to work for what five more on field sessions. Uh 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: so that's good too. I will say this. It was 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: nice and cool in the mornings and the evenings, right, 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean unseasonably cool. It felt like to me at 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: least out of the beach with that nice breeze. I 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: would love it if we saw some of that weather 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: continue on through summer, right and this week on the 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: field that the players would love that. It was. It 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: was beautiful weekend to live in North Florida. It was. 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: It made me laugh. For Cky minicamp. We heard players saying, oh, 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: it's so nice out, this is really great, and I 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: was like, just wait till August. You're gonna love it here. 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: In't that adorable? All right, here we go, let's get 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: into big things. Big thing one is for thoughts. We 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: watched a full practice last week at O t S 37 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: and some takeaways that we're going to go over with you. 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: Defense shine during red zone period, but that's not really 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: a surprise with a young offense but is still trying 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: to get their timing down we also have some players 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. This week's will go over. 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: That big thing too is changing changing culture on the show. 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: We're always talking about it, but it's totally different when 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: you hear a franchise player talk about the changing culture. So, 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Brandon Linder, what has been different since Urban Meyer has 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: been hired. It's just on the performance side, um, you know, 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: dry needling, cupping, all the different therapies, activation stuff, equipment, 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I mean, you know, we've got 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: a couple of new facilities going up. Um. And in 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the food you know, the food has been better and nutrition, 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: all these different shakes and whatnot. So I mean it's 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: just we have more at our hands now to succeed 53 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: in too, you know, help us show potential on the field, 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, show our values. Big thing three is professionals. 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: This is a job. We always talk about it. It's 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: great to see the camaraderie and everyone here having fun 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: on the field, but treat it like a job. And 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: that's exactly what ray Sean Jenkins and Shas Griffin are 59 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: doing during a voluntary off season. You can just tell 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: just both of our mindsets and approach to the game 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: is just different. And much more just professional. Um, you know, 62 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: even like today we came out there. We we we 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: came and before prectice, we talked to each other, Hey, 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: what we need to work on it day? What do 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: I need to work on a day? Better? Let's make 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: sure we're doing that and then we don't do we 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: started doing. I mean, if we don't see each other 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: doing that, let's hold each other accountable. And uh so 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: it's just a professional Uh listen, as as you know 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: we age. But you know he's always been a great 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: football player, and you know, I spend nothing else. Very 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: cool connection there. They are childhood friends, played youth football 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: to other and now in the locker room asking each 74 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: other what do you need to work on to day? 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: So I thought that was a pretty cool story there. 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Well I laughed because he said they're more professional now 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: than when they played together when they were eight and 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: make a little more money. I would hope so, And 79 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: that is a cool story. I mean, you know again 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: you would hope that they have better preparation habits at 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: this point, but that would be a cool thing. You know, 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting there playing football, I mean with the kid 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: when you were seven and then all of a sudden, 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: you're twenty five and you're trying to push each other 85 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: to make it in a profession, so it was anyone 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: else look at that though. Dude has got a lot 87 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: of hair, and you wonder how he gets a helmet on. 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know he puts it all down and stuff, 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: but I just my first reaction every time is how 90 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: how does he get a helmet on? He obviously does. 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: Hair is not fun in the butt. Let's go back 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: up to the top and talk about first impressions, because 93 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: this team has not stopped the run since, uh, since 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: a game in Cincinnati where Marcel Darius was injured, and 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and last year obviously was a debacle. And the first 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: thing I noticed was how many bodies they had, and 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: not just bodies, but big bodies in the defensive line group. 98 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: They had numbers, they had size. I mean, you see 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: these guys now and realize, um, they'll stop the run. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean they've got huge size and numbers. It is 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: a dramatic and dramatically better looking group of people, uh 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: than they had here in the last year or two. Well, 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: they made it clear Urban Meyer, I started free agency, 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: made it clear that was the number one priority, and 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: They not only threw big bodies, they threw a lot 106 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: at it, and they threw some talented guys meaning I'm 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown to Faile Har was supposed to. Yeah, he's 108 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: the guy that stood out the most. He is a 109 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: massive body. Yes, so they they went after it with 110 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: quality with those guys. And then you can also tell 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: they sort of played the numbers game is played safe 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: and see if we can get some other guys to 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: develop as well. So, yeah, that was the thing you noticed. 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: Now also noticed Brian the front seven overall on defense. Uh, 115 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: just the total numbers is the increased athleticism, Uh, you know, 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: so that's going to be something to watch. You mentioned 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: to Fele and Malcolm Brown, and then you see Devon 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Hamilton's who we all were talking about how he was 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: growing through last season and then he got hurt and 120 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: you kind of forget about him. So there are plenty 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: of names and plenty of there's plenty of talent to 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: work with upfront. That was the thing that stood out 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: to me. And I know the focus was on on 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: the offense with the quarterback, and everybody wanted to see 125 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: him and Tim Tebow together and the storylines are evident 126 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: but that group in particular, it was impressive. Yes, the 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: line around at the tight end drills was definitely amplified 128 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: and an O T A I will admit that. But 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, John and you wrote about 130 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: it was when you were watching red zone drills and 131 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: the story when line was that Trevor Lawrence ruggled a 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: bit and the offense the timing was a little off. 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: But then you look into it and it's not really 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: a surprise, and we write the defense shines and they 135 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: look great, which they did, but it takes some time 136 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: for this offense to get a rhythm. Well, it's cool things. 137 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Remember here the media is seeing right now. Unlike years 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: past when we all watched tan O T A s 139 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and three mini camps, we're watching one out of three 140 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: each week O T S right now. I remire made 141 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: a point to say, the offense and Trevor Lawrence has 142 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: looked very good on Wednesday, So trying to analyze this 143 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: is dangerous because you're only analyzing one out of three. 144 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: The red zone offense wasn't very good. Trevor Lawrence did struggle, 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: but red zone offense is the it's often the last 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: thing that quarterbacks get that offenses get When I was 147 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: covering the Colt with Peyton Manning, I forget which year 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: it was, but he talked about that, all of a sudden, 149 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: their red zone offense was like, which is absurd, but 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: he made a point that's clear really the hardest. That's 151 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: clearly the last thing to come together for any offense. 152 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Why they work on it so much during practice And 153 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: here's a news flash. They may not be great to 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: start the season in the red zone. Next year, they 155 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: might they might have been good in the red zone 156 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: at all the year. Right, that is the last measure, 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and it's often the measure of how young quarterbacks developing. 158 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: You would expect Trevor Lawrence not to be as good 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: there next year as he will be in And people forget, 160 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: so we'll remind you. The field gets compressed. It's so 161 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: there's so many more bodies. And I saw him making 162 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: the right reads and trying to drop the ball in 163 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: spots and he was overshooting guys right, just timing. Yeah, 164 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: so it's something he doesn't know what to do with it. 165 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: It's the timing issue and knowing where to go and 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: when and how to fire it through. And that's going 167 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: to take time it will I once will say one 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: thing that was promising when you were watching in the 169 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: offense is how many options there were. How many playmakers 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: there were. I mean even when it was third team 171 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: and it was Jake Luten like Chris Man. Hurts is 172 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: one of them. I know we're gonna talk about it 173 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: next segment. But he was brought in here to be 174 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end and he's catching touchdowns left and right. 175 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: So I will say that with promising, there are a 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of he's a big body. Yeah, guys out there 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: making place. Agreed. I love that. Thanks for a green 178 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: When we come back. That is big things. Who are 179 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: we looking at during O t S. Three guys that 180 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: stood out this week and last week. We'll come back 181 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: on Jaggie Drive Time and talk more about that. 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I was a big wrestling 219 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: fan growing up, like w W was my thing. I 220 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: think I read that one yes, and now that my 221 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: worlds are colliding, Oh my gosh, I never thought it'd 222 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: come true. Still a big John and a fan. Heck yeah, 223 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: j C lover once to three eight was my first email. 224 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: I lost a lot of fans lately. What not me 225 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: for his China thing? You didn't follow that? No, I 226 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: only see they You might go look it up, go 227 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: watch his video. Yeah. Needless to say that this place 228 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: was becoming an entertainment all things around it just not football. 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Um yeah, yeah. As a kid, I used to watch 230 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Gordon solely broadcasting Dusty Rhodes and things. They're way way 231 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: before your time shellin So it's it's a it's entertained, 232 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: it's entertained. It is all right. Let's go back to 233 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: football and O T A S this week. So we 234 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: got to watch a full practice Lacks last week and 235 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: there were three guys that stood out to us, maybe 236 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: more than others. So, Brian Sexton, you are up. Jordan Smith, 237 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: the the pass rusher from U A B. And again, 238 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: expectations for what he'll do this year are not very high. 239 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: They said it on draft weekend that this was lightning 240 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: in a bottle. But you can see right there just 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: how tall, broad and long he is. I mean, if 242 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: you're looking for an edge rusher for this three or 243 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: four defense, that's what you're looking for. You don't find 244 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: many guys on the planet. They have that combination of size, 245 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: length and speed. Um again, I'm watching him because I'm 246 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: looking and thinking what will he be in three years 247 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: if he develops, because remember he was a Florida sign a. 248 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who had sec ability. Okay, now, 249 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: can you get that out of him in the NFL. 250 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: If you can you've got a guy that can be 251 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: a massive edition with Josh Allen and can Von Chason. 252 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Holy cow. I mean, you can really have something special 253 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: there that that's on the edge, that's down the road, 254 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: but it's undeniable physical ability. Well, it's the kind of 255 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: thing you can do that. Again, when I covered the Colts, 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: they brought in Robert Mathis one year in two thousand three. 257 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: I believe at three or four sacks. He shined at 258 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: the end of the year with the idea that he 259 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: could develop the next season. Uh, this feels a little 260 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: bit like that to me. Matthews went to a significally 261 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: smaller school, but the same sort of developmental project. Uh, 262 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: he was impressive. Psycho man hurts. Now is that you 263 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: can just go ahead with your um you know, it's 264 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: it's easy to look at young guys in these things, 265 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: and if the tricky part about trying to pick out 266 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: somebody in O. T A S Is it's very difficult 267 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: to go with interior defensive line and it's difficult to 268 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: go with offensive one because what are you really going 269 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: to see out of them? I thought last week it 270 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: might be tricky to go with man Hurts because he 271 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: is a blocking tight end. Um, there was a little 272 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: bit of a rumbling when they first signed him to 273 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: look out that this guy might be more than just 274 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: a blocking tight end. The catch he made, I think 275 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: they're shown it here. Um. The catch he made, uh 276 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: one O t A catch doesn't make him Travis Kelsey, 277 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: but it was impressive enough where you thought, Okay, he's 278 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: not just going to be lining up as a six 279 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: offensive tack. We talked about him so much in in 280 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the run game that I've gotten questions in the ozone 281 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: about well, why don't they just sign him up a 282 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: tackle and sign a real tight it. Well, he's got 283 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: enough to be a real tight end. So interested. So 284 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: he got the impression listening to people talk about Man 285 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Hurts that he was one of the original seven blocks 286 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: of Granted, right, I mean he's not that Hello. There 287 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: was afford him offensive line a long time ago. Vince 288 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: Lombardi was part of that team. But they didn't throw 289 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: the ball, They just ran it. You just felt that 290 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: was all they were gonna do with this kid. But 291 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: John's point was well taken. That is, he showed athleticism 292 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: to be able to make He's huge, I mean the 293 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: massive body, but he also got off the ground and 294 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: twisted and contorted to be able to take the ball 295 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: away as you saw from between two defenders. Um, if 296 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: he can do that for you, wow, I mean that's 297 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: what I noticed at the tight end position. Nice, That's 298 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: what I was watching down in the mob so much 299 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: so that Coach Meyer after that practice said, yeah, I 300 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: think we're going to use him in pass catching. Surprise, 301 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: we might use him there, and that's exactly what we 302 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: were looking for. All right, speaking of pass catching, come on, Len, 303 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: say his name right, Matt or Baby, how do I do? 304 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that's perfect? Yeah, this is a guy that 305 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: I noticed. He might have made it the catch of 306 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: the day. It was slightly out of bound, so we 307 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: can't call it the catch of the day, but if 308 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't bounced, it would have been showed off that 309 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: record breaking forty six five inches at the scouting combine. 310 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: That was a record this year. So this guy has 311 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: a huge vertical leap and it's really gonna be It's 312 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: gonna make it interesting because right now, there are so 313 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: many talented wide receivers on this team. You don't think 314 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: this guy that is going to make the roster right now, 315 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: what are you see in that picture? Though I know 316 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it interesting. You see the length, You 317 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: see the flexibility, you see the ability to track the ball. 318 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean you you see things that normal people can't do, 319 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: which is why even though he's an undrafted rookie free agent, 320 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: he's got a skill set. And if the practice squad 321 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: is enlarge this year as it has been, I mean, 322 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: a guy like this is an absolute no brainer because 323 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: you don't find a lot of guys, even at a 324 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: position wide receiver where you can find lots of receivers 325 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: that again have his size, his length, and his physical attributes. 326 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: The ability to reach and track and turn for the ball. 327 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: That's what scouts are looking for. Yeah, his vertical leap 328 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: was absolutely crazy in the red zone. And and like 329 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: we said, this wide receiver group, you love it because 330 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: they're so talented, there's so many options. I'm really curious 331 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: to see how he pushes this group because he's gonna 332 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: make it even more interesting. They're not going to get 333 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: rid of guys who can run and play fast. They're 334 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: going to figure out a way to keep them. Uh, 335 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and that entails keeping an extra defensive back in the 336 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: practice squad, an extra wider c run the practice squad. 337 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: So uh, they will find room for guys who can 338 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: run and play fast. 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Pet Paradise official pet service provided 379 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars out Friendly. Here we go, We're 380 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: going to Vancouver. Do you really believe a culture change 381 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: makes a difference? I am personally leaning know this building 382 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: a new culture business is talking to hear yourself talk hashtag. Well, 383 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. And this was a 384 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: much longer email, and the reader made a good point. 385 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: He said, Look, you guys talked about culture change when 386 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: Malarkey came in here. You talked about it when Gus 387 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: came in here, you talked about when Coughlin came in here, 388 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and then when Kauflin left with Moron. The culture change 389 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: matters in this way. You have to change the culture 390 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: as a head coach because nothing works unless the players 391 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: believe in what you're selling. So there is an element 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: of that. Every coach has to change his culture because 393 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: you get to get guys believing. Now that said, there 394 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: is a uniqueness to what's going on around here. It's different. 395 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: It's being backed up by the facilities you see. It's 396 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: also backed up by an unbelievable amount of winning in 397 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Urban Myers past, and by having a franchise quarterback. So 398 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: there are tangible building blocks and elements that go with 399 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: the culture. But this person's point is correct. Culture means 400 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: nothing in and of itself. It has to be built 401 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: around something unless you have great players. I mean, you 402 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: could have bad players and great culture and it doesn't matter, right, 403 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: But good players with a lousy culture usually doesn't work. 404 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: No Urban knows you have to build a culture. But 405 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: he's also not naive. He knows he has to have 406 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: a good playing twenties six previous seasons. There's ever only 407 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: been one culture in this building, and that was Tom Coughlin's, 408 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: the concentration line that he started early. Jack tried to 409 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: have one. He didn't. He had good players and no culture. 410 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Malarkey wasn't here long enough to establish any culture at all. 411 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: Two and fourteen you're out the door. Gus never one, 412 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: So the culture didn't take place, and that was more 413 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: of a culture of each individual player focusing on himself 414 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: as opposed it was a different kind of culture. Doug 415 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: was never a culture guy. Right. You may use the 416 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: word because it's a popular word. The only time there 417 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: was a culture in this building was when there was 418 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: an edgy expectation that you would do things right if 419 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: you did things wrong. With coughlin Man, you heard about it, 420 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: and we can tell the stories about guys getting fined 421 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: for what they were on the airplane, for what they 422 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: said in the hallway instead of in the interview room. 423 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just countless examples of it. But the 424 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: culture was we're all about winning here at all times, 425 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: and you will do the right things for the right 426 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: reasons and we will win. No other culture coach here culture, 427 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: no other coach here was ever successful in establishing a culture. 428 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I believe, based on what I've seen and felt on 429 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: the field, Urban Meyer is doing the exact same thing 430 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: that TC did back in those days. There is expectation, 431 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: is a high level expectation. In fact, you heard Brandon 432 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: Linder say it. He said, oh yeah, no, we're getting 433 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: food and we're getting all of the different uh you know, 434 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: the dry needling and the cupping and all those things, 435 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: but we have to give it back on the field. Right. Yeah, 436 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: that's exactly what TC did and other coaches talked about 437 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: it in their time here, but no one ever got 438 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: it done. So we'll see the culture doesn't matter unless 439 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: they win. If they win, you'll see the culture as 440 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: a primary factor in the way they do business. And 441 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: if they don't, it'll be Now that's that culture word again. Yeah, 442 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. And Brandon Leinner's in the 443 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: press conference, it was almost like it was like spoiled. 444 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to know the right word 445 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: for somebody used the word pampered instead. You guys are 446 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: being pamperty. What whoa? No, it's my job and this 447 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: is what I need to succeed. It's not and we 448 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: have to give it back on the field. Well, and 449 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: that's the key and what is impressive about Urban And 450 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: again we were not around him until this all started. 451 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: We saw him from Afar, we saw him in Florida 452 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: slim as the Gator fans, so she saw it um 453 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: but his ability two get the message across when Brandon 454 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: linder said that about giving back what they're getting and 455 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: it's not very good at putting but you know what 456 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, that wasn't a surprise to any of us, 457 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: because that was one of the first things urban said 458 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: out of the box. It's one of the things he 459 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: said in the second press conference. He has a very 460 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: impressive ability to make sure that what's important to him 461 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: about the culture is what he says in the media. 462 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: It's what he said to the players. The players have 463 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: repeated it back to us. It's getting through what the 464 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: culture is supposed to be. Uh Again, none of that 465 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: matters unless you win. But there's a consistency across the 466 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: board that makes you think this cultural will take hold. 467 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Totally agree. One of the other things is he keeps saying, 468 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: and we've heard it not players saying as well, that 469 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: we talked about the draft picks and free agency and 470 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: all these great new guys coming in and coach Meyers like, 471 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: let's not forget about the guys that have been here. 472 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's our job to coach these guys that 473 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: have been in the building. He was saying that from 474 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: the beginning to he's been very uh vocal when he's 475 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: getting he's been giving the opportunity to talk about Josh Allen, 476 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: to talk about Brandon Lender to talk about many guys 477 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: that they've brought back. Uh, because he knows there was 478 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: more talent here and more building blocks than a one 479 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: and fifteen team would usually have a lot. Obviously, when 480 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot has to go right too. But I think 481 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: he was I would say surprised, but has been. Uh, 482 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: you're taken with how much there already is here? He doesn't. 483 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: He doesn't want people to forget that one final thing 484 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: on the culture. The reason people call him a culture builder, right, 485 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: which is how a lot of the national media referred 486 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: to him when he came in, is because he's one everywhere. 487 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: He's been Ball State, Utah, Florida, Ohio States. So guess 488 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: what happens. The culture takes center stage, this is how 489 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: we do things, and nobody questions it because he's one everywhere. 490 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: He's been three national championships. So if you want to 491 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: bet on there being a strong culture here, I've been 492 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: heavily in his favor. Absolutely. Let's go to Fruit Cove, Florida. Michael, 493 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? You said after free 494 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: agency you expect all new signings to make the final roster, 495 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: assuming Johnson Jones, chanals chart and Camp our locks both 496 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Agnue in doorset would be seven receivers. Someone is the 497 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: odd man out here. Well, this reader also mentioned Travis 498 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: at En. He's gonna play some receiver. I don't think 499 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: you count him as a receiver and you're counting of number, 500 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be dangerous to try to 501 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: count up numbers at the receiver position. For this reason, 502 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Agnew was signed as a returner and a receiver. 503 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: So if this bunch is going to keep guys who 504 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: can make an impact, Camp is also a guy who 505 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: can be kept on the practice squad. I still would 506 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: think all seven of these guys are playing a role 507 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: and are around this franchise in some capacity next year. Also, 508 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: remember the practice squad you can have a veteran or 509 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: two on it now, whereas before you had to be 510 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: under a certain year. So you know, I wouldn't say 511 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Camp is a lock for the I don't know there's 512 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: that many locks for theft. Yeah, I would. I wouldn't 513 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: put him on it, to be honest with you, but 514 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: he's going to I'd be surprised if he's not around 515 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: as a practice squad guy. Uh And much like your 516 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: guy whose name I can't say that they're going to 517 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: find spots for guys they believe can make an impact. 518 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, well, Philip dor said, 519 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: he hasn't done this, He hasn't done that at in 520 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. They signed him for speed. My point when 521 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: I answered this question earli in the offseason, h somebody said, well, 522 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: they signed twelve free agents and they they traded from 523 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown. Can he really keep all those guys? We'll 524 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: listening to the coaches talk about it. They weren't just 525 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: sort of out there signing guys Willie Nelly. They had 526 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: specific roles they wanted for all those guys. Doors Set 527 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: was a guy that they wanted because they feel like 528 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: they need to be explosive. So I think they have 529 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: a roll for you know. They said about Camp on 530 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: draft weekend that he was like Jordan Smith we talked 531 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: about earlier, a guy with the future in mind. Remember 532 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: when he was a Georgia Tech. They ran a w 533 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: a wing tear, you know, I mean they ran some 534 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: run intensive off one so a wish bone. Um. No, 535 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy that you put on the practice squad 536 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: if he's not ready to go. And the other thing 537 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and you touched on this is you can keep a 538 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: guy and just make him a special teams only guy, right, 539 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: just like you keep a long snapper, a kicker, and 540 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: a punter. You you got fifty three, you can keep 541 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: him if he's that valuable to you. And everybody always 542 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: focus on theftree and I get that because it's an 543 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: easy thing to talk about in the all season. Realisticly, 544 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: you put a guy in the practice squad, how often 545 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: during the course of the season do you see all 546 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: seven players at a position stay healthy. So usually when 547 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about these things with a six round, seventh 548 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: round pick, they often start on the practice squad for 549 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: three weeks and then attrition leads you to be on 550 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: the field. So I usually think about a roster or 551 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: or a group of players as about sixty players rather 552 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: than fifty three. And even with the practice squad that 553 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: bumps it up to sixty five or so, because you 554 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: guys have seen it. The guys are on and off, 555 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: guys come in and out, and you're usually working with 556 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: about sixty five players as opposed fifty three. Yeah, you're 557 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: gonna see something totally different. And week four, all right, 558 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Fred, what do you got 559 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: for us? I am delighted to see we have full 560 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: attendance for off season. But how does it work for 561 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: those who have yet to work out contract details? Is 562 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: there some sort of short term insurance policy to protect 563 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: them if injury occurs? John, Actually, there is. It's a 564 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: there's an understanding that if a if a draft pick 565 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: gets hurt, and this happened with Dante Fowler. We've seen 566 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: a numerous times that the team and the and the player, 567 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: they negotiate in good faith and the player is signed 568 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: to a contract that would have been uh commisserate or 569 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is with their draft slot. So uh teams 570 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: don't go back on that, and they don't try to 571 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: negotiate it low because of the good faith. And if 572 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: you do it, then all of a sudden, any agent 573 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do I mean, it's a bad thing, 574 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: and teams don't do it. It's a little different if 575 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: it's your first ground pick like Fowler was. I mean, 576 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: they guaranteed his contract, fully guaranteed his contract, every penny 577 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: of it. Um, you've got a guy like Jalen Camp 578 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: that gets hurt, they used they've got offsets that they 579 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: can use to move money around here and there, you know, 580 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: so that they're not on the hook. But for the 581 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: most part, they protect the players with these waivers, you know, 582 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: with these insurance policies that make sure that the player 583 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: doesn't lose future earnings by participating in The reason they 584 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: do is they wouldn't participate if they didn't, right they 585 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: They make it protect the player so that the player 586 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: will come out and work. Otherwise they wouldn't have mini camps. 587 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: And the players should be a protective that you bet 588 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: they should. Sure, that's why you have a perfect attendance 589 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: at all. Done. Well done, John and Brian. 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