1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario, it is always so much fun for 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: me to have an artist on my show whose work 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: makes so many people feel seen. That is the power 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: of TV and film. I always say it. It's the 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: way that a character can make someone feel, I don't know, 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: a little less alone in the world. It's just so awesome, 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: and that is exactly what my guest today has become 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: known for. Anthony kay Vaughan joins my show who you 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: most likely are currently watching in the smash hit Netflix 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: series Exo Kitty, which just got renewed for a much 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: deserved season three. Anthony has been portraying various roles in 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: film and TV since five years old, but perhaps became 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: a household name by playing raheem and unrestrained and hysterical 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: queer student in the series Love Victor. Now in Nexokitty, 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: his character Q also explores themes of identity within the 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus community as he navigates his relationship with a 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: fellow athlete. He also plays Kitty's best friend, and every 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: line he delivers Ugh his comedic gold. He's an actor 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: that you very much sh be keeping your eyes on 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: because he is a rising star in Hollywood. So let's 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: see if today we can get Anthony to say something 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: that he has never said before. 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Anthony, how are you? My friend? It's so good to 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: be with you. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Good to be here. 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Happy to have you. 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: You have so much going on, so many exciting things 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: are happening in your life. I know there's some big 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: news that we are fresh off of, which we're going 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: to dive into all of that. But first of all, like, 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: how has this whirlwind been for you? You know, the 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: show Likes So Kiddy Season two came out. I imagine 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: it's just like a roller coaster that you're just kind 35 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: of strapped onto. 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, a bit. It's very surreal. I from the beginning, 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: I keep pinching myself because I don't know. I have 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: like this crazy imposter syndrome. I feel like I've been 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: doing this a long time, but every day I feel 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: like am I supposed to be doing this? Like? Is 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: this real? Is this actually happening? Like I'm very pessimistic 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: about it all, but it is insane how amazing this 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: journey has been and how successful the show has been 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: so Yeah, I don't know. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny that such a seasoned actor and artist 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: like yourself still feels like that, like even in the 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: game since you were five, and you're You're like, should 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I be here? 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Like that's wild to me. 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think I've just been 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: dealing with a lot of rejection over the years. I'm 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: like conditioned to believe that this isn't real, this isn't happening. 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I've put in a lot of work, 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: a lot of time, so I have to like remind 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: myself sometimes that like it's okay to be okay with 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: all of this. 57 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like to allow yourself like, oh wow, I can 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: enjoy the success because it's happening then and I'm here, 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: and like I imagine you have to remind yourself to 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of live in that moment too. 61 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah I do. I do, And like my castmates are 62 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: great at reminding me, especially like she and I kind 63 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: of like have the same mindset when it comes to 64 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, like no way we're doing this 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: right now, like this is this isn't happening, like that 66 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: we don't deserve this, this is crazy. But then we 67 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: have to like remind ourselves, like, no, no, We've worked 68 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: our whole lives to be here. We are here because 69 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: we are the best people for the job, and that's okay. 70 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: We need to just understand that at this point. 71 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that comes from, like you said, so 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: much rejection over the years that you just almost can't 73 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: believe you are at this point of your life and 74 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: point in your career, or what do you think that 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: it stems from? Because I look at you and I'm like, man, 76 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: he's been on successful shows and he's a small percentage 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: of people actually doing it. So it's so strange from 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: an outside perspective to hear someone like you be like, 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, I feel like I'm I'm suffering from 80 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. More like it can be taken away because 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're in it, You're doing it. 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: I think it's just yeah, I think it has been 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: just I mean, for every job that I have, there 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: are a hundred, if not a thousand no's, So it 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: is kind of like, is this actually happening? Or I 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: have to be very cautious with my excitement when it 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: comes to these kinds of things, Like I've done a 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: ton of pilots that never went to series. I've been 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: given jobs that were actually like actually, just kidding, we're 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: going to give it to someone else. And I've been 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: in that position where I was the guy who was 92 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: given the job after someone else has been cast. So 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: there's just so much volatility in this industry that, like 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: it's I try not to get excited until I'm like, actually, there, 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: the ink is dry and I'm in front of the 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: camera because then it's like, okay, well, at least even 97 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: if they do fire me, I'll still get paid for. 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: This, right, right. And it's self protection, right, I get it. 99 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I get that you want to guard your feelings and 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of guard your heart before you get super excited 101 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: about something. I think that's relatable to people in many 102 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: different professions as well. But I hope you've been taking 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a minute to you celebrate as much as you can 104 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: everything you've accomplished, especially with XO Kitty and your entire career. 105 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: I think it's really cool because you're someone who seems 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: to find themselves in these sort of coming of age 107 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: stories and they resonate in such a big way with 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: so many people because it's so relatable. So for you, 109 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: what do you love about being a part of that genre? 110 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: So to speak? 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I never really intended for this to happen, 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: like so close in proximity to the last job. But 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: I love telling these stories because there's an element of 114 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: realness to them and like all of these stories, I 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: feel someone has been in these shoes before, and it's 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: amazing to get to like walk those same footsteps as 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: someone else and like show that representation and be a 118 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: part of this story, whether it be a queer coming 119 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: of age story or just like a kid figuring their 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: shit out? Can I cuss on your you? Can? 121 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want on here. 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: And like for some and like myself, I look up 123 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: to the people that I'm working with, like if I'm 124 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: putting myself in my sixteen year old shoes, like I 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: would be watching these shows and feel seen and feel 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: heard so and just like reading the messages that people 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: have sent and seeing how much these performances and these 128 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 3: stories has impacted them, it makes it so worth it. 129 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: And like I don't know, again, I never saw myself 130 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: in this genre growing up. I never thought like, oh 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: I want to be doing like why shows, but they 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: are so important and they are so needed. I feel like, 133 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: so it's been really cool that I've gotten to do 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: what I've been doing for the past few years and 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: continuing to do it. 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: And what's so cool about your work is I think 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: back at some of those more coming of age stories 138 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: that I grew up with, and throughout my life I 139 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: can kind of pinpoint the moments that made me look 140 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: back at those shows or movies and made me think like, 141 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I felt totally seen and like I could 142 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: relate to that moment in my own life, and I 143 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: think that's something people carry with them forever. So in 144 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: some ways, you know, all genres are great and important, 145 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: but in some ways, this genre is I think so 146 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: personal for so many people. 147 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: I agree and like, just like what you were saying. 148 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: I get stopped sometimes by grown men who are like 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: your performance on The Victor has resonated with me so 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: much like and that to me is like, Wow, this 151 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: isn't just for like people coming of age. This is 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: for people of all ages who didn't get these stories 153 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: or media representation in their childhoods or in their growing 154 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: up and now are seeing it and it's like healing 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: the inner child within them and it's it's really an 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: honor to do what I do and to be a 157 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: part of someone's like coming of age story. So yeah, 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I'm rambling, but it really 159 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: is to a freaking, like weird but amazing and special, 160 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: magical thing that I get to do, and I never 161 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: ever imagined it would be this impactful. 162 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, and for that reason, and among many other reasons, 163 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: people are so psyched that a season three just got announced. 164 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: Were you were you? Did you have a feeling that 165 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: was coming? 166 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Were you like, all right, we got this or how 167 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: does that work for you when you let go of 168 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a season you're waiting for a new pickup? 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: Were you mentally? 170 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: You know? It's so interesting because if you had asked 171 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: me two years ago while we were filming season one, 172 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: I honestly was like, Oh, I feel like this is 173 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: such a niche show. No one's really gonna watch it. 174 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: Like I fully wrote it off in my head that 175 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: this is going to be a one season show. It's 176 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: going to go away and no one's going to talk 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: about it. And then the show came out for season 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: one and the audience reaction was so intense. I was 179 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: really taken aback by it all, and then we immediately 180 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: got a second season, and then the strike happened and 181 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: then we didn't hear anything. We went dark for like 182 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: eight months. So I was like, oh, maybe our show 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: is just going to go away like so many other 184 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: shows did. But no, like Netflix and the studio were like, 185 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: we're going back as soon as the strike is over, 186 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: We're going back, and we did it. So coming into 187 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: season two, I felt like really confident that people the audience, 188 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: the creatives, and the people at the studio were confident 189 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: in us and our show. So when season two came out, 190 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: I felt honestly like, yeah, I think we are going 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: to do a third season. Everyone's been talking about it. 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: While we were filming season two. They were already talking 193 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: about season three. But it's easy to fall back into 194 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: that kind of pessimistic mindset that I've been conditioned to 195 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: have growing up, that like, okay, yeah, well, you know, 196 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: you can't take everyone's word for it, Like people say 197 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 3: things all the time and then it doesn't come to fruition. 198 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: But I don't know. Usually I'm like checking every day 199 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: with my team. Have we heard anything yet? Have we 200 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: gotten a pick up letter? Has the studio reached out 201 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: for dates yet, and I didn't this time. I was 202 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: just kind of like, I think, I honestly think it's 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: going to happen, and I think I can say this. 204 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: Back in October, I found out that the writers went 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: back in the room and started writing season three. So 206 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is all like all signs are pointing 207 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: to yes. And so I didn't lose any sleep over it. 208 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: I honestly was like, it's a good chance that it's 209 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: going to happen. I'm prepping myself. I'm like buying all 210 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: the things that I need from when we go back 211 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: to Korea. So I just kind of had that in 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: my head that it was going to happen. And then 213 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: Jessica called us a few weeks ago, our showrunner, and 214 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: told us the news, and it was almost like yeah, 215 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: I figured, yeah, we're going back, We're going back, and 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: like I was like, oh my gosh, yes, yes, yes, 217 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: Like I feel like I normally would have because something 218 00:10:55,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: just inside me knew that this story wasn't done being 219 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: told yet. 220 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: Look at that. 221 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: That is what I think is called growth, Right, You're 222 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: like stepping out of that pessimistic mindset and allowing what 223 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: you deserve to come your way and being like yeah, cool, 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: that feels right, okay, awesome, which which is pretty right 225 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: on your character. He's people just adore him. Q means 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: so much to so many people. He's very confident and 227 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 1: put together and you know, sure of himself. 228 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: Are you all those things? Can you relate to Q? 229 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: Oh? 230 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: My god? 231 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: No, no, no no. It's so fun playing C because 232 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: it gets it feels like I'm playing like a way 233 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: more confident version of myself. I always said this, like 234 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: I've never felt more comfortable than when I'm pretending to 235 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: be somebody else. This is why I do my job. 236 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Like I am one of the most anxiety people you'll 237 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: ever meet. So getting to like play a character who's 238 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: popular in high school and is confident in his own skin, 239 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: it's not something that I normally am, or was when 240 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: I was Q's age, because I think you, like sixteen seventeen. 241 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm twenty four now and I'm still working on all 242 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: of this. So it's nice to play these characters because 243 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: I get to take pieces of them. It's like my 244 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: own kind of like therapy, which sounds so messed up, 245 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: but like I see what Q's capable of and I'm like, well, 246 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: if he can do it, then I can do it, 247 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: and I take that home with me sometimes. So to 248 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: answer your question, no, I don't feel like I am 249 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: like Q in a lot of ways, but I am 250 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: starting to grow into that a little bit and take 251 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: parts of him with me when I go home. 252 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Well that's pretty cool, and that's that's always fun to 253 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: me when I think an artist can learn from who 254 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: they're playing and pull something from at least you know, 255 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: their their life to better enrich your own, right, Yeah. 256 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: Usually it's the other way around, Like you put your 257 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: own personal experiences into your characters, and honestly, like that 258 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: does work too. But for the characters that I have 259 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: been playing recently, I've learned a lot about myself because 260 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: of playing them, and it's like someone's giving them a 261 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: script already and I know the outcome and so I 262 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: get to like play with that in my real life. 263 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: Well that's cool, though, because that tells me you're someone 264 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: who's very open to growth and learning and not, you know, 265 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: not digging your feet in the ground and saying I 266 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: am who I am and there's no room for change. 267 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: It's like, no, I want to be better. I want 268 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: to keep evolving. 269 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we're put on this earth. Like people 270 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: think when you graduate high school, you got everything figured out, 271 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: and that's not the case. Like I am constantly learning 272 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: and having life lessons being taught to me all the time. 273 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: And that's what I think is like beautiful about doing 274 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: my job is I get to meet so many new people, 275 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: experience different cultures, and continue to grow. Like that's all 276 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: that I really want to do as a person and 277 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: an artist. 278 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: You work with Anna Cathcart very closely. You play her 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: best friend. I had her on my show. She adores you. 280 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: I imagine working with her is just the best. 281 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: It really is. It's funny because we didn't know each 282 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: other prior to the show. We had one like chemistry read, 283 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: but it was over zoom and so like we didn't 284 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: really get a feel for each other. And I remember 285 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: we were about to start filming season one. We had 286 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: just kind of like landed in Korea, and I was 287 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: walking out of the hotel and she was being driven 288 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: back into the hotel like in the ballet area, and 289 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: she like swings open the van door and I look behind. 290 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you Anna, And she's like, are you Anthony? 291 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: And like we like run and like it's almost like 292 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: that season two episode one scene where we like embrace 293 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: each other and like spin around and we're like, I'm 294 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: so happy to meet you. And from that moment on, 295 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: I was like, this girl is real. She's not some 296 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: random little screen on my computer. She's a real person. 297 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: And we clicked immediately. And I think also because the 298 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: both of us had quite a bit of an experience 299 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: in the industry, whereas like a lot of our cast 300 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: members were pretty green and didn't have a lot of 301 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: well some of them actually never had worked or acted before, 302 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: so there was that kind of like mutual understanding of like, Okay, 303 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: we're entering a new space and we're going to be 304 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: in Korea and doing this thing together with a bunch 305 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: of people who don't really know what's going on. So 306 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: we immediately bonded on that. And also, like our scenes 307 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: just kind of like flew by, we were the ones 308 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: that like the eighties would come up to us and 309 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: be like we knew you'd be able to get us 310 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: home on time, and that it was just like fun 311 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: to be able to do that for our show and 312 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: with each other. And I just remember like season two, 313 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: we had one scene. It was the first scene for 314 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: me of the season, and the sun was setting and 315 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: it was an outdoor scene and we only had like 316 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes to get this scene in both of our coverage, 317 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: which isn't a lot of time. And then we started 318 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: rehearsing as they're setting up camera and I remember the 319 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: script supervisors like you what are you reading? We're like 320 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: the scene? What do you mean? This is the scene? 321 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: And she's like that's not the scene anymore. And I'm like, 322 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: we didn't get the new pages because like sometimes they 323 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: like print out stuff like day of and then they 324 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: expect you to like memorize it, and they someone forgot 325 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: to like give us a new so they gave us 326 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: the new pages, and I remember us like yelling the 327 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: lines at each other and then they're like almost done 328 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: setting up and they like finished setting up and they're like, okay, 329 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: hate your marks. And then we do the scene. We 330 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: did it in like two takes, and I remember us 331 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: looking at each other and be like, we're so back. 332 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: We're so back, Like we have this amazing chemistry on 333 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: and off camera, and I love working with the girl 334 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: because it's just so obvious to everyone else. And it's 335 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: so easy. That's what. That's the best way I can 336 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: explain our work, our professional and our personal relationship is 337 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: just easy. 338 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Well to the point of I think people confuse the 339 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: both of you with your characters because it feels so natural, 340 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, that's awesome. That's a 341 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: testament to the work that you guys do well. I 342 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: know people are so excited for more of that in 343 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: season three. And you've shared a little bit about what 344 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: you want to see for your character in season three, 345 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: But is there anything else that you haven't really said 346 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: yet that you want to explore for Q? 347 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I kind of want him to 348 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: have his own love triangle, some drama for Q, because 349 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you's the one that's always like so 350 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: put together and like has everything figured out and isn't 351 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: like the one that the drama or the chaos is surrounding. 352 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: So it'd be cool to like get to step into 353 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: kiddy shoes a little bit and like, look some shit up. 354 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you ever have say in what happens to 355 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: your character or No? 356 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: I mean, like I can I can talk to the 357 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: writers and ask them, like, Hey, what are you thinking 358 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: for this like what if we did that? I was 359 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: very adamant on like being true to myself in terms 360 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: of my heritage and like having them add that we 361 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 3: were I was Iranian and Filipino and they were super that, 362 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: which I'm very grateful for. But as in terms of story, 363 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: like that's the writer's job, I have no say, Like 364 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: my job is to say the lines, basically, but like 365 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: it is nice to like kind of, you know, go 366 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: in and be like, what if we did this? And 367 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: usually they're very collaborative and very open to what I 368 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: like suggestions I have, but no, I have no idea 369 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: what's in store first. I mean I have a little 370 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: bit of an idea, but I don't know what's actually 371 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 3: written and what's on paper. 372 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: I would be so tempted to be hounding the writers like, hey, 373 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: have you worked on anything today? 374 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Anything takes a lot. 375 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: It takes a lot to not be like that because 376 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: I used to be like, so, what's happening? What's happening? 377 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: And like nine times out of ten, like if you're 378 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 3: filming season two and you're like, what are you thinking 379 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: for season three? They'll give you ideas, but those things 380 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: change so much, like based off of audience reaction of 381 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: the season. The studio has opinions, the network has opinions 382 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: of what they want the show to look like, so 383 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: like they could have ideas, but like it could be 384 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: completely different by the time you actually start filming the season, 385 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: which has happened on every show that I've been. 386 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: On so on. Behalf of all the fans. 387 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: When I announced you as my guest, I feel like 388 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: it is my duty to ask you this question. 389 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: You look nervous. 390 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous. 391 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: I know I just made it very dramatic. 392 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: People are very interested who you want the endgame for 393 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: Kitty to be. 394 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: I knew this was coming, did you? I knew this 395 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: was coming. Yeah. Everyone always wants to know this answer. 396 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: I okay, how do I say this? I really hope 397 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: that whatever happens in terms of Kitty's love story is 398 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: what she wants. I hope that it is a relationship 399 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: of growth and understanding. I think, and this is I 400 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: don't want to be like I don't want anyone to 401 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: take this as the word of Exokitty. I have a 402 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: feeling it could be minho. Just the way that the 403 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: writing has gone, it is very like k drama. E 404 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: of them to do the slow burn. I can see 405 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: it happening that way, but at the same time our 406 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: show is constantly throwing curveballs, So season three, something else 407 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: could happen. I have no idea, but for me as 408 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: me personally as a viewer, I think Kitty and Minho 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: are really cute. But I love the that she got 410 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: to explore that with Yuri as well in season two 411 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: because she is by and that's you know, there's I 412 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people have opinions on like 413 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: a bygirl ending up with a boy, which some of 414 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: it's valid and some of it's not. And I just 415 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 3: really want Kitty to be happy. That's all I want. 416 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: Like the whole reason why she came to Korea was 417 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: to discover herself and what she wants and understand who 418 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: she is in terms of who she loves and who 419 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: her family is. So I just want to see Kitty 420 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: like just for that and be okay, that's really my goal. 421 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: I hope that was sufficient enough answer. 422 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: That is that's a good answer. 423 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: That was spoken like a true best friend in character 424 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and out of character Kidi and Annas, So I think 425 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: that's that's. 426 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: Really really cool. 427 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: I love that you play these characters who, just as 428 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I alluded to earlier, means so much to so many people. 429 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: Of course, from Le Victor to this show. 430 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: The representation alone that you provide through your work for 431 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: so many is something that just makes it makes people 432 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: feel like, oh my god, I may not have this 433 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: in my small hometown, but I can see it on 434 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: screen and I feel like, okay, cool, Like I am valid. 435 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm seeing things are going to get better for me. 436 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I imagine for you. You must wear that badge of honor with pride. 437 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a complete honor. Again, I told, like I said, 438 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: I never expected my career to be and it's such 439 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: an amazing surprise and such an honor. So yeah, absolutely, 440 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: I take that with so much pride, and I am 441 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 3: so grateful that I get to be that like beacon 442 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: of representation to so many people across so many different spectrums. 443 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: It's sexuality, it's ethnicity, it's a race, it's all of it. 444 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: And I love that you told the writers it was 445 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: really important for you to truly show you know where 446 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: you're from in this character, and that's something that you, 447 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: I know, didn't always get the chance to do growing up, 448 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: and you don't always feel like you fit in a 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: box in terms of representation, and you know. 450 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: You can pass. 451 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I think you've said you can pass for different things, 452 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: but you want to make sure people know, like, this 453 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: is my background, and I imagine that for you also 454 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: makes playing Q so important because you're allowing your heritage, 455 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: your background, to truly be seen. 456 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean my entire career, I've played characters that 457 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: I can't couldn't relate to on a personal level because 458 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: of where their background, who they are in terms of 459 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: their background, Like I know I look a certain way, 460 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean that I can bring the authenticity 461 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: required for someone who speaks Spanish or comes from a 462 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: Puerto Rican background. And I've played so many of those 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: characters before, and I got to a point where I 464 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: was like, at some point, I'm taking this opportunity away 465 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: from someone else who could bring forward that authenticity that 466 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: I just couldn't. Like, yeah, I can speak Spanish. I 467 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: took Spanish for years in school, but I didn't grow 468 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: up speaking it like in my home. I didn't grow 469 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: up eating the foods that these characters are talking about 470 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: in their shows. So when I finally felt like I 471 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 3: reached a point in my career where I did have 472 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: some sort of say in that, And when I got 473 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: the audition for Q, it was like Middle Eastern ambiguous 474 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: or like North African, And so when I got closer 475 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 3: to actually like getting the job, I was like, I 476 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: would really love it if we could do this instead, 477 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: because I could play this, but it wouldn't feel real 478 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: to me, and whoever's watching this, if they look me up, 479 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 3: they'll see, oh, he's not actually this that or the other, 480 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: and it would just feel an authentic And our show 481 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: is so diverse and it has so many areas of representation, 482 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: it would feel weird to have like one of the 483 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: main characters not represent that. And luckily Jenny and Sasha 484 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: were super down. They were so down to do it, 485 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: and I was able to like bring in little bits 486 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: and pieces of that throughout both seasons, and like certain lines, 487 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: I'd drop hints that I, oh, you know, I'm from 488 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: the Philippines or my mom's Filipino and my Lola made 489 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: this and da da da da da so and I 490 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: feel like the fans of the Filipino fans especially were 491 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: super grateful for that. I get so many dms and comments, 492 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: are like, when you mentioned this, I felt so much pride, 493 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: and that's so important to me and I never had 494 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: experienced that before. So yeah, I think, you know, going forward, 495 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: if I were to hopefully continue to do my job, 496 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: would love to continue that conversation with the creatives and 497 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: hopefully continue doing the same thing in terms of representation. 498 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: Anthony, it's so wild to me that you've grown up 499 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: in this business because you seemingly are so grounded and 500 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, live your life from a place of gratitude 501 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: and haven't gone to a place where sometimes people who 502 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: think artists who grow up in the business can potentially 503 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: go to. 504 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 505 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: I think about me sometimes in that respect, and I'm like, 506 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: if I grew up in front of a public facing forum, Laurie, 507 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: it would be I was I would be a hot mess, 508 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how I would do it. So 509 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: has that been a weird experience for you? And how 510 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: do you stay so kind of level headed? Because it 511 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: really is seemingly who you are to me, at least 512 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: from just meeting you. 513 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that. I have been in therapy 514 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: for quite a while, which has helped because there's a 515 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: lot of like fakeness in this industry and like faking 516 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 3: it till you make it kind of thing. And like 517 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 3: I said, the imposter syndrome is a huge thing that 518 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: I continue to deal with. But honestly, my parents have 519 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: helped me so much in terms of staying grounded, Like 520 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: they keep me humble. They don't fluff up any of this. 521 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: They're just like, oh, okay, so when's your next job? 522 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: Like when are you getting your next job? Though, like 523 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: it's it's not special to them anymore, which helps me 524 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: a lot. Kind of keeping that groundedness in a way, 525 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: and also just remembering where I came from, like it 526 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: was a struggle to get here. You know, my mom 527 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: quit her job she was climbing the corporate ladder and 528 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: put her career aspirations on hold so that I could 529 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: follow my dreams. And my dad took up a second 530 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: job and he was mopping floors at one point to 531 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: keep the lights on so that I can continue to 532 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: do what I'm doing. And none of that is lost 533 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: on me. I remember when I'd done this independent film 534 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 3: when I was nine or ten years old, and it 535 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: had premiered at Tribeca Film Festival and we couldn't afford 536 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: to go and everyone in our family pitched in for 537 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 3: airfare and hotels and we all went and saw my movie, 538 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: and that I remember to this day that like every 539 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: person in my family has helped me get to where 540 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 3: I am. This isn't just because I'm super talented and 541 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: need like and very like deserving of being here. Everybody 542 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: has put in work and sacrifices so that I could 543 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: do this. So it's that concept reminder that like, I'm 544 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: not doing this just for me, I'm doing this for 545 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: every person in my family who's had a little piece 546 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: of the puzzle in terms of my journey. So yeah, 547 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, and like seeing my parents who are 548 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: still working today and my brother who's going to college, 549 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: like everything else in my life is very very normal, 550 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: So doing what I'm doing, it's a constant reminder that 551 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: this is like once in a lifetime opportunity and that 552 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm getting to follow my dream right now, and this 553 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: isn't normal for most people. 554 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's probably what makes it so much more 555 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: rewarding for you, And you truly do come from a 556 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: place of feeling grateful for everything that's come your way, 557 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: and it's hard, as you said, you know, like I 558 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: think therapy is such an amazing thing, and there's some 559 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: much noise in the business, and there's a lot that 560 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: you kind of have to try to tune out of 561 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: for your own protection of your mental health. And I 562 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: know you've very, very publicly spoken about the importance of 563 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: being good to your mental health and taking care of yourself. 564 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Was that an easy choice for you to make, because 565 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I feel like even ten years ago, a lot of 566 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: artists would choose not to talk about that. 567 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: Yes and no. I both of my parents are immigrants, 568 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: so like the idea of therapy was a little weird 569 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: for them, and they were like, you don't need therapy, 570 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: You're fine. What's wrong with you? Like you got food 571 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: in your belly and a roof over your head, like 572 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: everything's fine, So like kind of breaking that mold a 573 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: little bit. I went into therapy when I was nineteen, 574 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: and it was because I didn't like my own thoughts, 575 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: Like I didn't like being alone with my own thoughts. 576 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: I was the type of person that I had constant distractions. 577 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: I was always hanging out with people, I was always 578 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: making plans so I didn't have to think about anything. 579 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 3: And it was right before COVID and right after I 580 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: had done like my third pilot that didn't go to series, 581 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: and I was just at a really low point and 582 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't want to be like that anymore. 583 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: I didn't want to feel like that, and I went 584 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: and saw a psychiatrist. I literally like took my insurance 585 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: card and on the backside it was like mental and 586 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: behavioral therapy called this number, and I called the number 587 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know what I need 588 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: right now, but I don't want to feel like this. 589 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: And I found a psychiatrist and I found a therapist 590 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: and it was so life changing. I put my guard down. 591 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: I left that stigma that therapy is for the week behind, 592 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: because that's how I was raised. And I finally like 593 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: left everything out on the table and allowed myself to 594 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: like heal and growing up doing what I'm doing. Like 595 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot of damage done. There's so much Like 596 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: I've had casting directors tell me when I was younger 597 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 3: that I was like chubby and that I wasn't going 598 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: to get the role because I looked fifteen pounds heavier 599 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: than my headshot was and say the most awful things 600 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: you could say to a kid. I had a makeup 601 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: artist tell me that I was growing a unibrow and 602 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: she was annoyed that she had to pluck it. Like, 603 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm thirteen, Like I'm going through changes in puberty. You're 604 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: putting these thoughts in my head. So going through and 605 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: breaking all that down and understanding where I am right 606 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: now and like why I got there was super important 607 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: to me so that I could continue to live normally. 608 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, change of that, Yeah, I know, And thank you 609 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: for sharing. 610 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: That's so it's so wild to me that as we 611 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: grow up and we evolve and we are growing into 612 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: who are meant to be, that so many out side 613 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: factors and noises in people's opinions are the most damaging. 614 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: And it's like, well I was fine before you said that, 615 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: but now that you said that. 616 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: You're kind of in my head, right. 617 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 618 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's such a wild thing. But that's awesome 619 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: that you do talk about it, and I know it 620 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: means a lot to so many people who do follow you, 621 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: and I'm a huge proponent of all of that. So 622 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: really really really happy that people like you who have 623 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: platforms do talk about that. As we wrap up, I mean, 624 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: I could talk to you for four more hours, but 625 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I won't take up your whole day. The name of 626 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: the show is called I've never said this before, And 627 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I cover a lot of red carpets and movie premieres 628 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: and junkets, and you're no stranger to them, and you get, 629 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, a minute and a half on a carpet 630 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: or six minutes at a junket, and I just saw 631 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: people longing to speak about other things than just SoundBite 632 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: movie or TV show conversation. It was like something in 633 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: their eyes like, Oh, I feel like if we had 634 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: for a few more minutes, they would reveal something that 635 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: they don't get to always share, give us a little 636 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: more insight into who they are. 637 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: And it's so hard in those settings. So that's how 638 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: this show was born. 639 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: So while you've been so open and completely vulnerable today already, 640 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, is there anything else that you can 641 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: think of that you've never said before that you want 642 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: to share today? 643 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I was like, 644 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: oh God, what am I going to say? Like there's 645 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: so many ways I could go about this, But actually 646 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: I realized this last night in the shower. I was like, wait, 647 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 3: I had never actually talked about this before, and it's 648 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: the fact that I actually passed on the audition for 649 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: Exo Kitty, and I was not wanting to do the 650 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: show at first, Like I wasn't familiar with the films. 651 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: I mean I was, but I hadn't watched them before 652 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to. I was already on a 653 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: YA Show spinoff series of a YA movie. I was like, 654 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: this feels like a lateral move for me, and I 655 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: just wasn't. I didn't want to do it, and so 656 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 3: I had passed on the audition because the casting director 657 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: actually reached out to my team to have me tape. 658 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, like this doesn't feel 659 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: like the right move for me, and I passed and 660 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: they came back and they're like, we really really want 661 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: Anthony to tape. And I was like, okay, all right, 662 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: I'll tape. I'll I'm sure someone else will catch their 663 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: eye and I'll just be one of a thousand tapes. 664 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: So I taped again and or a taped for the 665 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: first time, and they came back and they were like, 666 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: oh my god, that was a great tape. We're gonna 667 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: pin Anthony. And I was like, what you mean, You're 668 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: gonna pend me? And then they were like, can he 669 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 3: send another tape with an accent because they didn't know 670 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: where they wanted the character to go, and I was like, 671 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to 672 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: be locked on a show playing a character with an accent, 673 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: like I feel like it could come off as like 674 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: a caricature of a middle Easter in person, and that 675 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: doesn't feel right to me. And so they said, well, 676 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 3: if you don't send another tape, we're going to release 677 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 3: your pin and I was like, okay, I'll send a tape. 678 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: And I sent a tape with the worst accent possible 679 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: because I was like, you're going to hate this, like 680 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: I know you're going to hate it, and I made 681 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 3: it like the worst and they came back and they're like, 682 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: you're right, don't we don't want an accent. I was 683 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: like okay, and then I was still like on the fence. 684 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know if I want to 685 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 3: be like typecast as the gay best friend. I don't 686 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: think I want to be in Korea. Like I had 687 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: so many like mental blockages that I was just not 688 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: open to the idea, which is so wild to me. 689 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm like, I want to go back and like 690 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: shake my twenty year old self and be like, what 691 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: the hell were you thinking? But that's also like a 692 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: testament to I do believe that what you were meant 693 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 3: to do is already written for you, like you you know, 694 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: fate is a real thing, Like, yes, you can alter 695 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: some things, but your path is your path. And this 696 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: was very It became very adamant to me that this, 697 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: no matter what I tried, like this was going to 698 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: be part of my journey, and I'm so grateful for it. 699 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: Like looking back now, I'm like, I am so glad 700 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 3: I sent those tapes and I ended up doing this 701 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: show because I have some of the best friends in 702 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: my life who are going to be at my wedding 703 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 3: one day probably and be a part of my life forever. 704 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: And I have these like I never went to college, 705 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: so like this was like my semesters abroad in a way, 706 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: I discovered so much about myself and not only as 707 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: a person but as an artist. So I am very, 708 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: very grateful for the opportunity to get this job. But 709 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: it's just wild to me that I at one point 710 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: was not wanting to do it and was super closed 711 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: off to the idea and that I actually fully passed 712 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 3: on the show and was like, this isn't for me. 713 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: I want to slap myself right now. 714 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: It's so hard to imagine you not in that role 715 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: I've been for everybody. I mean, it's it's just you 716 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: make it seem so seamless. 717 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: It's wild to me that, like if I was like 718 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 3: put my foot down and was like, no, I'm not 719 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: doing this show, that someone else would be playing this 720 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 3: character and it just it doesn't feel right. And I'm 721 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: so so glad that I listened to my team. Everyone 722 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: was telling me like, what do you This is a 723 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: huge piece of IP, Like this is a really big show. 724 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: It's a Netflix, for God's sake. So I was like, oh, 725 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: if I want to do it, I don't want to 726 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: be in Korea. That seems really far. And it was 727 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 3: really it was the imposter syndrome. I didn't believe that 728 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: I deserved a job like that. I think I think 729 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: I was scared to like put myself in those shoes 730 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 3: and be like one of the leads of a show 731 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: in Korea that's groundbreaking in so many ways. I was 732 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: so close off to the idea and I'm like, I 733 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: can't I cannot believe that. I I'm so sorry, Jenny Hawn, like, 734 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I put you all through that, like they 735 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: and they kept saying like we want you, this is 736 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: this job is for you, Like people at the studio 737 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: are like, there's no one else and I was, I 738 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 3: was so close off to the idea and it's just 739 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: insane to me. But I'm so glad that everything worked out. 740 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: I'm really really glad that I took the chance and 741 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 3: that they took the chance on me, because I can't 742 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 3: imagine my life without this show now. 743 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: I think that story is the perfect example of sometimes 744 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: the things in life that you were the most afraid 745 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: of reap the biggest rewards. So the lesson here is 746 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: if it's scarce the shit out of you for everybody listening, 747 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: just do it, just do it, because look what can happen. Yeah, Oh, Anthony, 748 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: that's a great story. What a great way to end 749 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: this episode. I'm so happy we could connect and that 750 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you could come on. I, like I said, I could 751 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: talk to you for four more hours. I think you're 752 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: just an awesome artist and an awesome human and we 753 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: look forward to just following your career. 754 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Tommy. This has been a really refreshing take 755 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: on an interview, like I had the best start and 756 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: I really appreciate you sitting down with me. 757 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. 758 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: Don't keep us waiting too long for season three now, Okay, hey, we're. 759 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: We're gearing up, so don't you worry. We're gonna start soon. 760 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I can talk about specific dates, but soon. 761 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: All right, we'd love to hear it. And when you're 762 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: in New York, let me know. 763 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 3: Sounds good. 764 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for me, all right, be well you too. 765 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. 766 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglici at iHeartRadio 767 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 768 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 769 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review and 770 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 771 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dedario