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Speaker 1: best Friends Forever. Oh, Greg, justus me. Frank stand will
Speaker 1: shout out to Greggy, who's lounging out there in Florida
Speaker 1: right now? A little bit better weather. Here you go,
Speaker 1: live live shot of Greig something. You know, I just
Speaker 1: thought i'd let's just get it in there, you know,
Speaker 1: right off the top of the show. Here that is
Speaker 1: a legit shot that Greg has sent me of himself
Speaker 1: lounging in Florida. Um, yeah, it's sunny there, eight plus degrees.
Speaker 1: We're here in New York City. We're here in New
Speaker 1: York City. Who's we I mean Frank's you know he's alone.
Speaker 1: There's no Greg. Did you bringing another best friend? Well,
Speaker 1: we're about to find out, because as much as I
Speaker 1: like Greg, he's cool. He's a good guy in the
Speaker 1: presence of greatness a millionaire. Drew nick Myer of Daily
Speaker 1: Breau dot Com is here in studio live through. First
Speaker 1: of all, I have to ask you, how did you
Speaker 1: sleep last night? Second of all, how are you enjoying
Speaker 1: the snow? I'm I'm not enjoying the snow because I'm
Speaker 1: in the studio. I don't have no intention of leaving
Speaker 1: the studio or this hotel today and battling that snow outside.
Speaker 1: I did sleep great last night. Uh surprisingly none. None
Speaker 1: of the city noise had any effect on me. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm a custom from from visiting friends up here
Speaker 1: that the sirens going by in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night don't bother me. Make sure you follow Drew at
Speaker 1: Drew dink Meyer over on Twitter. Yeah, so basically you
Speaker 1: and Greg just swapped spots because normally you're from You're
Speaker 1: from Fort lauda day, You're you're always in Florida. You
Speaker 1: enjoyed the weather all year round. Now we're here in
Speaker 1: New York and snow and yeah, he went there to
Speaker 1: go visit his mom. He's hanging out. This was a
Speaker 1: shot from yesterday on his birthday. He turned fifty yesterday.
Speaker 1: We found out Greg sucks a little bit older than
Speaker 1: the rest of us. But you know, he was enjoying
Speaker 1: a nice little fruity beverage. So there you go, Greg
Speaker 1: Susman out there in Florida and we're here still holding
Speaker 1: down the fort. It's snowing and it's a good time
Speaker 1: here with Drew dink Meyer live in studio. So my
Speaker 1: plan for today was kind of an intro to MLB dfs.
Speaker 1: How does it differ from all the other dfs forwards
Speaker 1: basketball football. You hear the word variance a lot when
Speaker 1: talking about MLB d dfs, and you know, I think,
Speaker 1: obviously a single game slate or days slate worth of
Speaker 1: MLB dfs, it's really a microcosm of like the season
Speaker 1: long that we play. There's a lot of luck involved,
Speaker 1: like you see, and we talked about it with starting pitchers.
Speaker 1: We look at the r A indicators. Um, I think
Speaker 1: Aaron Nola. You look at his year by year production,
Speaker 1: perfect example right where like not much changes year in
Speaker 1: and year out if you look like deeper on Aaron Nola,
Speaker 1: but as e r A fluctuates from like four point
Speaker 1: five to like last year when it was sub three.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of luck. There's there's definitely a
Speaker 1: luck factor involved with baseball, I would say more so
Speaker 1: than any other fantasy sports. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that variance and how that kind of works itself into
Speaker 1: MLB dfs. We're also gonna get to know Drew dick
Speaker 1: Meyer because I have some questions. I had a few
Speaker 1: people downstairs give me questions that they want to ask
Speaker 1: you dick Meyer, because frankly you dick Meyer is a
Speaker 1: mystery man, so we gotta find out more about him.
Speaker 1: You know, let's just let's do this right off the top. Two.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite beverage? First? We'll start with non
Speaker 1: alcoholic for the for the under twenty one audience out there,
Speaker 1: and then give us your favorite alcoholic beverage. If you're
Speaker 1: not a big drinker, that's fine. So my favorite my
Speaker 1: favorite beverage that's non alcoholic used to be pepsi. But
Speaker 1: if I cut out soda from from my life, now
Speaker 1: made some made some health improvements. So uh, now I
Speaker 1: will go with h A smoothie. I like I I
Speaker 1: have a smoothie every day in the morning to start
Speaker 1: my day with bananas and mixed berries and protein and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. And then I'd say my favorite
Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage. You know, I like a good I p A.
Speaker 1: But I would say, like my, I go to drink.
Speaker 1: I go to drink if I'm in, like a good
Speaker 1: bar that I that I trust is a nice vodka gimblet?
Speaker 1: What a vodka gimblet? All right? I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm just what the heck is
Speaker 1: a vodka? Vodka a little lime juice kind of kind
Speaker 1: of shaking up almost like a martini serv in Martini glass. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little vodka gimblet. Alright, vodka Gimlet I take
Speaker 1: I take it. You're not a big supporter of the
Speaker 1: I p A s. Frank. Now, you know my motto,
Speaker 1: the cheaper, the better, the cheap for the best the better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I roll in the Corey Parson the Fantasy executive train
Speaker 1: of thought, where Corey is a big Core's light guy.
Speaker 1: I'm probably not gonna go that low. Probably not gonna
Speaker 1: go to the Core's light tab draft I got. I
Speaker 1: got through many years at college with Keystone Light. So
Speaker 1: Keystone light, you know, you know what Keystone light is.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the head of Coors Light. Poor's
Speaker 1: Light and Keystone light are you know, same batch and
Speaker 1: like the head gets filtered off and it's basically like
Speaker 1: Keystone light. See, this is why we have Drew Dinkmight here.
Speaker 1: He's you know, not only see a millionaire. Look, he's
Speaker 1: a lot smarter than myself and Greg, because first of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know what a vodka gimlet
Speaker 1: was until you know, Drew just brought it up to me.
Speaker 1: Now we know what a vodka gimlet is. I'm looking
Speaker 1: up the recipe here. Two and a half ounces vodka,
Speaker 1: half ounced fresh lime juice, half ounced simple Zerup. There
Speaker 1: you go. There's a body, simple drink, simple drink and
Speaker 1: as simple serup. Drew dink Meyer simple guy. He likes
Speaker 1: a simple drink. He likes vodka gimlet. He also likes
Speaker 1: I p a s. Look, you know what, as long
Speaker 1: as it you know, it makes me have a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm not really gonna question it, so you know, that's
Speaker 1: why I go with the cheaper the better personally. You know,
Speaker 1: I like whatever light and you can light. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get a beer sponsor on the show one day, but
Speaker 1: all right, for now, we're gonna leave it. If you
Speaker 1: have to choose an I p A. Cigar City Highlight
Speaker 1: is my favorite I PA. It's a Tampa based brewery
Speaker 1: that just started to get like national distribution. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Cigar City Highlight my favorite highlight. My favorite I p A.
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about I p A
Speaker 1: S one they have awesome names too. They have awesome
Speaker 1: bottles slash cans because I'll see it's it's great from
Speaker 1: like a marketing perspective, from like I p A S.
Speaker 1: In general, like differ point, you always see awesome bottom
Speaker 1: bottle labels, awesome cans for I p A S. And
Speaker 1: I'm almost enticed to buy one. That's probably why they've
Speaker 1: done so well in the beer market in the US
Speaker 1: is the strong marketing. Like we're all just shiny objects
Speaker 1: of the US. We just want the nice, pretty thing. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big bitter guy. I don't like bitter stuff,
Speaker 1: so you know, like I PA tend to be you know,
Speaker 1: very hoppy, very bitter. You know, I don't like dark chocolate.
Speaker 1: I don't like I P A S. That's why you
Speaker 1: know me and my fiance get along so well, is because, uh,
Speaker 1: we're opposites. So if there's stuff in the fridge, like
Speaker 1: she won't take anything that's mine and I won't take
Speaker 1: anything that's sterts because she loves bitter stuff. She loves
Speaker 1: I P A S. And I just got a bunch
Speaker 1: of cheap beer in there. Anyway, intro to MLB DFS,
Speaker 1: we mentioned it earlier. We were talking a little bit
Speaker 1: before the show. Analysts mentioned variance a lot when it
Speaker 1: comes to MLB DFS. If someone's just kind of like
Speaker 1: diving in now they want to like if their toes
Speaker 1: a little bit at the start of the of the
Speaker 1: MLB season four DFS purposes, what the heck does that mean?
Speaker 1: So variance is just a way to describe kind of
Speaker 1: the standard deviation amongst projections and so um to highlight
Speaker 1: some of the challenges of projecting MLB as a whole.
Speaker 1: Um Mike Leone, one of the co founders of Daily Roda,
Speaker 1: and I were talking about kind of a check on
Speaker 1: our projections a few weeks ago in mlb DFS, and
Speaker 1: he noted that if you bucket all of the players
Speaker 1: on a given slate together, all of the hitters, and
Speaker 1: you combined with our our projection versus their average kind
Speaker 1: of air, we have like an our squared of which
Speaker 1: is really really really strong. But if you take one
Speaker 1: individual hitter and just use that as the sample instead
Speaker 1: of them all grouped together, we aren't a squared of
Speaker 1: about two, meaning that on a day to day basis,
Speaker 1: one individual hitter on that day, it's gonna be extremely
Speaker 1: tough to find a projection that that they're going to meet.
Speaker 1: But over the course of the season, if you add
Speaker 1: up all their days, will be very good at projecting them.
Speaker 1: And so what you have to do when you're playing
Speaker 1: mlb DFS is you have to understand that essentially what
Speaker 1: you're doing is you're trying to just play the game
Speaker 1: over and over and over again and recognize that each
Speaker 1: individual game is going to have a wide range of
Speaker 1: results in them. But if you play the game the
Speaker 1: same way kind of over and over again over the
Speaker 1: course of the season, you will eventually add value above
Speaker 1: your opponents. It's a difficult thing to get to because
Speaker 1: a lot of people are playing the US can't withstand
Speaker 1: kind of the craziness of you know, Bryce Harper is
Speaker 1: in a great spot in Colorado against a right handed
Speaker 1: pitcher who's like a soft tosser, and he's not gonna
Speaker 1: strike out, but then he hits you know, four line
Speaker 1: drive rocket outs and he goes over for four and
Speaker 1: gets you no fantasy. People can't deal with that fact
Speaker 1: because that doesn't happen in like the NBA. When you
Speaker 1: take Lebron James, you're getting like already five fantasy points
Speaker 1: almost every night, regardless of anything you have. The floor
Speaker 1: exact floor is much different in baseball because again, like
Speaker 1: there's so much luck that factors into things. And you know,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of what we do for scenes long too,
Speaker 1: when you know Greg and myself or Modica and myself,
Speaker 1: or do you hear Drew talking about it, and we
Speaker 1: use babbit a lot when it comes to batting average
Speaker 1: on balls and play versus batting average, where if you
Speaker 1: look at a player's hard hit rate for the season
Speaker 1: and their average exit velocity and the fact that they're
Speaker 1: hitting a lot of line drives. But for some reason
Speaker 1: about how to low babbit or their batting average was
Speaker 1: a lot lower than what their babbit was. That's what
Speaker 1: that's you know, when we try to use some of
Speaker 1: these advanced analytical tools, that's what we're doing to try
Speaker 1: and find people that are going to perform better than
Speaker 1: years past, or even for dfs, better than days past,
Speaker 1: because they've been unlucky. There's a lot more luckiness involved
Speaker 1: when it comes to MLB dfs. Yeah, there is because
Speaker 1: because of what you talked about, you know, uh, professional
Speaker 1: baseball hitter and only control two things, whether they make
Speaker 1: contact and how hard a contact they make. From there,
Speaker 1: they can't control anything else where the ball goes, where
Speaker 1: defenders are positioned. They have no control over that, and
Speaker 1: as a result, they control less of the output of
Speaker 1: their actual results. And that is why I hate, I
Speaker 1: hate the kind of old guard of you know, baseball
Speaker 1: fans and fantasy baseball players and and just like get
Speaker 1: off my lawn. Uh no, this isn't the morning get
Speaker 1: off my lawn types. You know, why are we looking
Speaker 1: at average ex velocity and stat cast and launch angle
Speaker 1: and and who cares how many degrees the ball is
Speaker 1: coming off the bat? Because you can use all these
Speaker 1: factors as future indicators as to whether or not a
Speaker 1: baseball players performing. There are so many smart people in
Speaker 1: baseball and fantasy baseball nowadays that you need to try
Speaker 1: and find any possible edge that you can get. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Baseball savant dot com. You go there now
Speaker 1: and they are just super forward thinking. They have all
Speaker 1: the stack cast stats. You know, you'll hear the term barrels,
Speaker 1: barrel is you know, optimal contact. Actually have written down
Speaker 1: on like a page here so I can remind myself
Speaker 1: because it's a lot to remember. Honestly, a barrel, it's
Speaker 1: optimal contact in baseball at least ninety eight miles per hour,
Speaker 1: average eggs velocity, between twenty six and thirty three launch angle.
Speaker 1: What does all this mean? It's optimal contact. If you
Speaker 1: make that contact, you're expected to have a five batting
Speaker 1: average and hundred slugging percentage when you make that contact.
Speaker 1: So when you hear the term barrel, that's what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. And you know, for people who are, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, why do I care how far a ball
Speaker 1: travels or how hard it's being hit and or what
Speaker 1: the launch angle is is? You know, these these are
Speaker 1: factors that you can use is to predict future performance, right, true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the stat all the stack ca ast indicators. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting the next few years of what we
Speaker 1: can find that is actually predictive going forward, because right
Speaker 1: now they're mostly descriptive, which doesn't mean they're not useful
Speaker 1: in predicting the future. They absolutely are. But the stability
Speaker 1: of these statistics, it's gonna take some time to kind
Speaker 1: of figure out where they fall. So like barrels and
Speaker 1: exit velocity and all this stuff is if you relate
Speaker 1: it back to the past production, it's a great indicator
Speaker 1: of saying, Okay, this guy has this many barrels, and
Speaker 1: this guy has had a slugging percentage below fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: on the barrels, he's more likely to have a slugging
Speaker 1: percentage more closer. It doesn't mean he's gonna have like
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred. It just means over time he's gonna have
Speaker 1: more hundred. Uh. The ability to continually generate the barrels
Speaker 1: in the predictiveness, and that is going to be the
Speaker 1: interesting thing that we find out over over more time
Speaker 1: as we have more time to work with these datas.
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing about all this stuff is. You know,
Speaker 1: people will talk about um old school versus New school
Speaker 1: in terms of a lot of the statistics are really
Speaker 1: trying to find a way to analyze old school thought processes.
Speaker 1: So exit velocity that's really just a proxy for bat speed.
Speaker 1: I want to hit the ball hard speed. Every every
Speaker 1: scout that ever looked at baseball always wanted to evaluate
Speaker 1: how hard a hitter could generate a swing. How how
Speaker 1: fast were they able to generate bat speed? That shows
Speaker 1: up hard hit rates, average exit velocity. You know, and
Speaker 1: people talk a lot about the launch angle revolution, Well
Speaker 1: what does launch angle revolution? What does launch angle? Basically,
Speaker 1: it's just the angle in which the ball is leaving
Speaker 1: the bat. And when you can hear people talk about
Speaker 1: launch anglo revolution, it's everybody's trying to hit fly balls
Speaker 1: in line drives now because data has shown that hitting
Speaker 1: more line drives and hitting more UH fly balls at
Speaker 1: a at a higher average exit velocity is going to
Speaker 1: lead to more extra base hits, is going to lead
Speaker 1: to more home runs. Look at Daniel Murphy. Daniel Murphy
Speaker 1: is just the He's the poster boy. He's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: His career with the New York Mets, great contact hitter.
Speaker 1: What did he always lack? He didn't really have a
Speaker 1: lot of power. He didn't really He would always had
Speaker 1: a lot of doubles. Maybe a lot of those doubles
Speaker 1: would come online, drives, a lot of you know, balls
Speaker 1: on the ground, down the line. But you know, the
Speaker 1: past couple of years with the Washington Nationals, he turned
Speaker 1: into a twenty five home run hitter and he's hitting
Speaker 1: you know, well over three hundred. Well why is that
Speaker 1: Because he's buying into launch angle and he's trying to
Speaker 1: hit the ball in the air more more so than
Speaker 1: ever before. So that's why when we talk about you know,
Speaker 1: I swear hitting the ball harder. You know, the marks
Speaker 1: that I usually look for is you know, forty percent
Speaker 1: hard hit rate, ball rate. Now, you don't want your
Speaker 1: guy to hit the ball too much in the air,
Speaker 1: because that can be a bad thing as well. Some
Speaker 1: guys are not meant to hit the ball in the
Speaker 1: air fifty percent of the time. I remember a perfect
Speaker 1: example last year Gregory Polanco started buying into launch angle completely,
Speaker 1: but he was hitting the ball in the air too much.
Speaker 1: He had, you know, over fifty percent fly ball rate
Speaker 1: the first couple of months of the season, and everyone's
Speaker 1: looking at his batting average and and his his bad
Speaker 1: Why is it so low because the guy is you know,
Speaker 1: he's not meant to do it that often. Now, Gregory
Speaker 1: Polanco was probably a guy who should have a percent
Speaker 1: percent line drive rate and maybe closer to a forty
Speaker 1: percent fly ball rate with a you know, forty percent
Speaker 1: ground ball rate. He has enough speed to leg out
Speaker 1: some hits there. That's you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: moving pieces here, and I'm like throwing a lot of
Speaker 1: people right now. But you get what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of h It's a little bit
Speaker 1: of goldilocks. And in the three bears right, you're like,
Speaker 1: you're trying to find the porridge. That's just right in
Speaker 1: terms of the combination of the different the different launch
Speaker 1: angles and where where guys are hitting the ball more
Speaker 1: frequently on the air and the ground or and plunco
Speaker 1: It took some time, but he did turn it up
Speaker 1: in the second half and turned a lot of that
Speaker 1: those fly balls into the big power jump that you
Speaker 1: saw from him. Um, but yeah, certain guys aren't meant
Speaker 1: at the ball in the air. You know, if you
Speaker 1: get I'll see these Escobar with the like a launch
Speaker 1: angle revolution that's just gonna lead to a bunch of
Speaker 1: you know, mid tier flyouts. You have to have. You
Speaker 1: have to have a big guy, strong guy who's hitting
Speaker 1: the ball hard to want to hit the ball in
Speaker 1: the air. Other guys, you know, smaller guys you you
Speaker 1: want to hit line drives and kind of keep the
Speaker 1: ball in play and and potentially, uh, you know, get
Speaker 1: to get those singles and doubles. Joey Gallo perfect example.
Speaker 1: That's who you want hitting the ball in the air
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time because he also has a
Speaker 1: near fifty hard hit rate, and that's why he's able
Speaker 1: to maintain, you know, being in the MLB and being
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball relevant with a two ten batting average because
Speaker 1: he's hitting forty plus home runs. He's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the middle of a decent lineup in Texas Rangers. But
Speaker 1: he's in a good ballpark as well. There are a
Speaker 1: few more things that I want to ask Drew about.
Speaker 1: You know, ballpark here a lot, you here, park shift
Speaker 1: factors a lot when it comes to MLB dfs, and
Speaker 1: for season long, we kind of us that when we
Speaker 1: look at a guy like again, Daniel Murphy moving over
Speaker 1: from the last series with the Nationals and the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Now he's moving over to the Coulora Rockies. That's arrow up.
Speaker 1: That's a positive parkshift factor. That's exactly what we want
Speaker 1: you know. Later on the show, I might also ask
Speaker 1: you about a term that I used a little bit
Speaker 1: this year during the football season, and I was crucified.
Speaker 1: Drew a term called air yards. Nobody wants to talk
Speaker 1: about air yards. Air yards are gonna win you a
Speaker 1: Fantasy football championship through ding Meyer uses their yards. You
Speaker 1: want a million dollars? I'm not crazy after all, right, guys,
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Speaker 1: bunch of different crazy music. There's Greg Susman out there
Speaker 1: in Florida lounge e on his uh public chairs each chair,
Speaker 1: yea chairs, lounge chairs doing Florida. Happy c you, Greg,
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Speaker 1: weren't you a bartender? You're right, I wasn't bartend, and
Speaker 1: I still didn't know what a vodka gimlet was. That
Speaker 1: just kind of tells you what kind of bar I
Speaker 1: worked in. I worked. I worked in like an old
Speaker 1: Irish dive bar, and being perfectly honest, if someone came
Speaker 1: in and asked me for Martin drink, I was we
Speaker 1: don't have that at Yeah, we don't have we don't
Speaker 1: have the ingredients. We have Scotch and we have beer.
Speaker 1: I can put you a shot, I can unscrew a
Speaker 1: beer for you. Um, that's pretty much the extent the
Speaker 1: extent of what I did when I was a bartender.
Speaker 1: Getting to know Drew dink mar that's Drew drink over
Speaker 1: there live into studio Daily Roader dot com. Make sure
Speaker 1: you follow him over at Drew dink Meyer on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I'd have a few questions here, Which one do I
Speaker 1: want to ask him? Next? I asked him about his beverage.
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite baseball team? Drew? I'm a Cubs fan.
Speaker 1: So I I grew up in South Florida, and I'm
Speaker 1: from South Florida, but my family is from Chicago originally.
Speaker 1: So when I grew up in South Florida, because I'm
Speaker 1: kind of old, not as old as Greg, but there
Speaker 1: was only the Dolphins. There was no Miami Heat yet
Speaker 1: they came a little bit later. There were know Miami Marlins,
Speaker 1: they came a little bit later. So I was raised
Speaker 1: as Chicago sports fan, so I grew up room for
Speaker 1: the Cubs. I appreciate that you're at least consistent, though,
Speaker 1: because you know that you're a Bulls fan. I know
Speaker 1: that I've kind of disowned the Bulls, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm technically a Bulls fan, but I've kind of disowned them.
Speaker 1: With the Nicks, so there's only so much and they
Speaker 1: get you know, Kevin Zion, like, I'll jump back in
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, you're a band get yourself out of
Speaker 1: abusive relationships. If you're an abusive relationship, like, just get
Speaker 1: out of it. If someone wants to call me out
Speaker 1: and say you're a bandwagon fan, first of all, I
Speaker 1: still watch every single game because I want to see
Speaker 1: Kevin Knox develop so and you know, I went through
Speaker 1: so many years of like sub twenty win seasons as
Speaker 1: a New York Nick fan, watching like Chris Duhan and
Speaker 1: you know, David Lee was awesome, but watching Tony Douglas
Speaker 1: and you know, give me a break. If I want
Speaker 1: to take a few years off and then jump back
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon as a Knicks fan, I'm allowed to
Speaker 1: do that because I've suffered for so much in my life,
Speaker 1: so I don't want hear anything. I also get really angry,
Speaker 1: you could kind of hear in my voice through when
Speaker 1: people do not root for where for teams where they
Speaker 1: are geographically located. Now, you have laid it out perfectly
Speaker 1: that there were no teams in Florida when you were there,
Speaker 1: and you have you you mentioned you had family rightfic. So,
Speaker 1: all right, that makes fair, That makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: But for people who live in New York or live
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, you live in the Tri state area,
Speaker 1: but you don't live in Massachusetts and you're a Patriots fan,
Speaker 1: you're a Celtics fan, you're a Red Sox fan. Come on, like,
Speaker 1: give me a break. We we can't have that. It's
Speaker 1: just ah, I'm just big on like geographic location. When
Speaker 1: you went to high school, you had a pep rally.
Speaker 1: You you root for your high school. You you know,
Speaker 1: when you go to college, you root for your college.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's something, there's camaraderie, there's team spirit there.
Speaker 1: The same thing goes for professional sports. Sorry, alright, moving on, alright,
Speaker 1: got that out of my system through What are some
Speaker 1: of the guess differences between draft Kings and fandom. Don't
Speaker 1: mean to like put you on the spot gear. I
Speaker 1: know Fandel uses one starting pitcher. DraftKings uses too, uh, Fandel. Also,
Speaker 1: you tell me if you like this or not a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I guess forward thinking. They eliminated the catcher,
Speaker 1: not completely, but they merged catcher and first base, but
Speaker 1: they also added a utility spot over on DraftKings, you
Speaker 1: still have to use a catcher for those the only
Speaker 1: differences and there's which one do you like more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some differences in scoring as well, So on fan
Speaker 1: duels some of the scoring is a little bit more
Speaker 1: geared towards runs and r BIS, and on DraftKings some
Speaker 1: of the scoring is a little bit more geared towards ISO.
Speaker 1: So like an individual players performance is a little bit
Speaker 1: more reflected on DraftKings, whereas team performance is a little
Speaker 1: bit more reflected on FANDEL. But the big difference between
Speaker 1: the two is the use of two starting pitchers versus
Speaker 1: one starting pitcher. And I prefer the use of two
Speaker 1: starting pitchers because it separates a lot of the different
Speaker 1: ways that you can build lineups in general, because you
Speaker 1: can go with two expensive starting pitchers and then fill
Speaker 1: out with a bunch of cheap pitters. Where you can
Speaker 1: go one expensive starting pitcher, one cheap starting pitcher, and
Speaker 1: then have like more of a balance lineup. So it
Speaker 1: creates just different ways for people to play that I
Speaker 1: really enjoy FANDAL. I feel like on some days, because
Speaker 1: you're only able to choose one picture, almost everybody's playing
Speaker 1: the same picture. And then you're just trying to differentiate
Speaker 1: based on hitters, and it's a little bit more challenging.
Speaker 1: So I like draft kings. I think there's more ways
Speaker 1: to play the game on draftings a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Speaking of starting pitchers and that position specifically, how do
Speaker 1: you attack that position on a daily basis? And I
Speaker 1: know you know the right answer. The easy answer might be, well,
Speaker 1: it's all depending on value obviously, like it's depending on
Speaker 1: salary and price. But do you find yourself more so
Speaker 1: in baseball than I guess other sports, like you see
Speaker 1: the starting pitchers and you just naturally want to pay
Speaker 1: up for that position. I think it is starting pitcher
Speaker 1: because it's it's interesting. It's very different than season long baseball.
Speaker 1: In the sense of season long baseball, you're total in
Speaker 1: the draft strategy that you know, pictures are the least
Speaker 1: predictable asset going forward, and a lot of that has
Speaker 1: to do simply with health. You don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about that on a day to day basis. If if
Speaker 1: a guy is healthy and pitching, like you know, he's healthy,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about lets. Of course,
Speaker 1: they get hit by lines, right unless they get hurt
Speaker 1: mid game, but that doesn't happen as frequently, so you
Speaker 1: know that pictures have more ability to generate consistent performance
Speaker 1: profiles on a game by game basis compared to hitters,
Speaker 1: so oftentimes you do want to spend up on them.
Speaker 1: I mentioned in Gabe Show that I generally don't like
Speaker 1: giving rules of thumb in DFS because I think they
Speaker 1: can get you in more trouble than they can help you.
Speaker 1: But I think in in DFS baseball there is one
Speaker 1: rule of thumb for pitching that I think is very,
Speaker 1: very helpful, And in general, you want to be thinking
Speaker 1: of your picture selection in strikeouts per dollar spent? How
Speaker 1: many strikeouts are you getting per dollar spent? People focus
Speaker 1: way too much on runs allowed, hits a loud different
Speaker 1: things like that, strikeouts are king in DFS. They're the
Speaker 1: most predictable of all the individual component stats and they're
Speaker 1: worth the most. So a lot of times will be
Speaker 1: taking pictures that you know might not project to work
Speaker 1: super deep into the game. They might project to have
Speaker 1: like a high implied total against. But there are guys
Speaker 1: who can generate strikeouts, and if they can do it
Speaker 1: at a cheap price tag, that allows you to get
Speaker 1: a lot of the bats because there's generally more upside
Speaker 1: and hitting than there's in pitching. But pitching is a
Speaker 1: little bit more projectable on a game by game basis,
Speaker 1: and that makes sense because there's guys like Robbie Ready
Speaker 1: comes to mind, where he might not go deep into games,
Speaker 1: go five innings, but he might give you, you know, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten strikeouts in those five ending Nick Pavetta another one
Speaker 1: that comes to mind last year where she the high
Speaker 1: e r A. Everyone's jumping, you know Nick Pavetta. This year,
Speaker 1: why well, the e r A indicators are a lot
Speaker 1: lower than his ear A was last year, and he
Speaker 1: did generated a lot of swings and mrs and he
Speaker 1: got a lot of strikeouts. So those are some of
Speaker 1: the things that Drew is looking at obviously, when you're
Speaker 1: finding starting pictures that you want to use, your trying
Speaker 1: to find teams that you want to target against. YEP,
Speaker 1: for example, the Baltimore are gonna suck this year and
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna strike out a lot. So you're really
Speaker 1: just looking at like K percentage for opposing teams as well.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to Yeah, you want you want as
Speaker 1: many balls in play as you can if you're attacking
Speaker 1: with an offense. So if you're going up against an
Speaker 1: opposing picture that does and generate a lot of strikeouts,
Speaker 1: that can be a really good thing. But you also
Speaker 1: want to look at when you're selecting your hitters. You
Speaker 1: want to take opposing pictures like to give up fly
Speaker 1: balls because again, we want more more balls in the air,
Speaker 1: more opportunity for slugging and power because home runs, just
Speaker 1: like strikeouts are king for pitchers, home runs are king
Speaker 1: for hitters in DFS. And then the last thing that
Speaker 1: I think you know it is getting talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit more in DFS circles these days, but wasn't
Speaker 1: talked about for a few years, uh, is bullpen strength.
Speaker 1: You really want to attack teams that have weak bullpens
Speaker 1: on the whole and don't have a lot of depth
Speaker 1: to their bullpen because as we've seen the game evolve
Speaker 1: over the last few years with openers and with different
Speaker 1: strategies and multiple uses, but they must have last year
Speaker 1: it's the it's a hassle for our projection system. This year,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to tackle it a little bit more
Speaker 1: efficiently than we have in the past. But when a
Speaker 1: team changes that strategy mid mid midway through. Uh, it
Speaker 1: is it is difficult to fit into a projection system,
Speaker 1: but you generally want to attack teams that have weak
Speaker 1: overall pitching depth, not just the starting pitcher um, because
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get like you'll go up against the Yankees
Speaker 1: and they might throwing out you know, somebody that does
Speaker 1: give up a lot of flyballs and is home run prone,
Speaker 1: and that's great for the first three or four innings,
Speaker 1: but then if they play from a head and they
Speaker 1: get into that bullpen, the good parts of that bullpen,
Speaker 1: you're getting shut down for the last four or five.
Speaker 1: Continuing with hitters in dfs and who you're trying to
Speaker 1: target on a nightly basis or daily basis. Um, how
Speaker 1: much does lineup matter? Because my thinking is you want
Speaker 1: as many batters high up in the lineup as you
Speaker 1: can possibly get because it just makes sense, like you
Speaker 1: give yourself a more opportunity for at bats, more opportunities
Speaker 1: to to get on basis score runs, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. So is that again you don't like to
Speaker 1: use general rules with them, and I understand that, but
Speaker 1: is that one where you kind of make an extensions exception,
Speaker 1: like you want players who are high up in line up.
Speaker 1: In generally, you want hitters that are hitting within the
Speaker 1: top you know, five spots in the lineup, sometimes six
Speaker 1: if it's on a really good offense on the whole,
Speaker 1: that you know is going to be able to turn
Speaker 1: that roster over more consistently. UM. But yeah, you've you've
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head, frank. You want to
Speaker 1: try to maximize plate appearances because every plate appearance for
Speaker 1: a hitter, no matter how bad the hitter is, is
Speaker 1: a positive expected value in terms of their overall points
Speaker 1: projection or per plate appearance. Every single hitter and MLB
Speaker 1: is positive. So the more plate appearances you can get,
Speaker 1: those are stacking up advantages on your opponents. UM. So
Speaker 1: there's some small differences between like hitting first and hitting
Speaker 1: fourth that are somewhat negligible because the opportunity of an
Speaker 1: added plate appearances UH is mitigated by hitting in the
Speaker 1: middle of the lineup where you have more runners on
Speaker 1: base to generate runs and r bis and different things
Speaker 1: like that. But in general, you want hitters hitting near
Speaker 1: the top of the lineup UM. And in general you
Speaker 1: also want hitters UM that hitting near the top of
Speaker 1: the line up on the road because they're guaranteed that
Speaker 1: ninth inning of plate appearances as opposed to at home
Speaker 1: wherein some of that is mitigated by like home field
Speaker 1: advantage in terms of run scoring. That's an actual added
Speaker 1: impact of turning that lineup over. But in general, like
Speaker 1: one of the most valuable positions in all of dfs
Speaker 1: over the last five or six years has been road
Speaker 1: leadoff hitter corpse field, because not only are you getting
Speaker 1: the extra chance of a potential plate appearance, the plate
Speaker 1: appearance is super valuable in course field that road leadoff
Speaker 1: hitter corse field, but specifically road hitters inside the top
Speaker 1: five is where you typically would target again inside good
Speaker 1: ballparks and course field is obviously one of the best.
Speaker 1: All Right, next up here, Drew, what's your favorite color?
Speaker 1: Favorite color is blue. Favorite color is blue, but I'm
Speaker 1: wearing red. I'm almost always in blue. Though I'm almost
Speaker 1: always in blue. I just I love blue. I always
Speaker 1: have all Right, So we have blue, we have I
Speaker 1: p A for Drew, we have vodka, Jimlett. What is
Speaker 1: your favorite food, Drew oh Man, So, my favorite food, Like,
Speaker 1: if I had if I had one thing to eat,
Speaker 1: it would either be pizza or macaroni and cheese. Those
Speaker 1: are those are like the two things that are like
Speaker 1: that are you know, they're they're my staples and my
Speaker 1: go too is when I can have them. They are
Speaker 1: not very good for you, and as there's a lot,
Speaker 1: I've had to cut back on them quite a bit,
Speaker 1: but those are the two things that are my go toos.
Speaker 1: How is pizza in Florida? So, I mean that's a
Speaker 1: loaded question being in New York, right, Like that's like,
Speaker 1: are you just trying to eat as much pizza here
Speaker 1: this week? I've had a lot of pizza while I've
Speaker 1: been up here. So yeah, it's an artichoke pizza. I
Speaker 1: have not been. Someone's got to take you. I might
Speaker 1: take you because it's not really like it's not typical pizza.
Speaker 1: They have some stuff they're like they have Margarita slice,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that they have locations in other states.
Speaker 1: I think they have like a few locations here in
Speaker 1: New York. Um, it's really good. The Artichokes slice is
Speaker 1: kind of like they use this like alfredo sauce on
Speaker 1: top of it, but also has like regular pizza cheesetokes
Speaker 1: And normally I wouldn't be in on like any of
Speaker 1: those things, but the culmination of it together is really
Speaker 1: really good, so we might need to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Macaroni and cheese? What kind of macaroni and cheese do
Speaker 1: you eat? Are you? You know, make it from scratch
Speaker 1: kind of guy? Rac and cheese. I'll eat all of it.
Speaker 1: I'll eat and and any and all of the perfectly.
Speaker 1: But I think like homemade mac and cheese with like
Speaker 1: the bread crumbs on top bakon. Yeah, yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: stuff Drewyer getting me hung and excited. Here Tuesday, Februar
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Speaker 1: Rhodot dot com. Alright, so we spoke a little bit about,
Speaker 1: you know, targeting road players who are inside the top
Speaker 1: four or five inside of a lineup in good ballparks.
Speaker 1: Now this might be, I don't know, kind of an
Speaker 1: obvious question, but like what are the best ballparks at target? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, what are the best websites to use to
Speaker 1: figure out park shift factors? Because I know there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of different ones that offer different statistics when it
Speaker 1: comes to park shift factors. Yeah, so I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, park factors vary a lot on a year
Speaker 1: to year basis, and so you have to be kind
Speaker 1: of understanding that there's a lot of variants in them
Speaker 1: a year to year basis. I know, when Atlanta's new
Speaker 1: park opened up last year, the first half of the season,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, this is the best hitters park,
Speaker 1: Like it's playing way more hit or friendly than we
Speaker 1: ever expected. And then the second half of the season
Speaker 1: it kind of neutralize a little bit. Um. The the
Speaker 1: easiest way to kind of figure out the best hitting environments,
Speaker 1: honestly is use vegas totals. That'll like get you that,
Speaker 1: that'll get you there the quickest. Use I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you about that too. I imagine you know for
Speaker 1: all dfs, you you want to use totals. In football,
Speaker 1: we look at you know, the totals, the spreads you
Speaker 1: you know you want to again, you want to use that.
Speaker 1: You want to try and get every advantage as you
Speaker 1: possibly can. An NBA we used you know over under
Speaker 1: faming for baseball. Yeah, that'll get you there the fastest.
Speaker 1: There's certainly the nuance around this is that some parks
Speaker 1: play better at different times of the year. And the
Speaker 1: reason is whether has a huge influence Chicago earlier on
Speaker 1: in the season exactly, you don't want to play you know,
Speaker 1: in general Chicago hitters or hitters in those parks early
Speaker 1: in the season when it's cold, you've got the lake
Speaker 1: effect with the wind blowing in. You get the summer
Speaker 1: months though, where the wind blows out and it just
Speaker 1: becomes you know, these huge total games where sometimes you'll
Speaker 1: see games in the thirteen or fourteens until rules, which
Speaker 1: you don't even get in course Field sometimes because the
Speaker 1: park effect, so it's very much dependent on weather and
Speaker 1: in general, Vegas totals will kind of lead you there.
Speaker 1: But I'd say, you know, some of the best ballparks
Speaker 1: in baseball, course Field certainly stands out as one. Baltimore,
Speaker 1: especially in the summer months when it's really hot on
Speaker 1: the East Coast, really stands out as one. Texas is
Speaker 1: always one of the best hitting environments because they also
Speaker 1: have a weather advantage during the course of the year
Speaker 1: where there are warmer park than most of the other
Speaker 1: parks throughout the course of the year. Um So those
Speaker 1: are some of the parks that really stand out. I
Speaker 1: feel like Texas has this wind tunnel too out to life.
Speaker 1: That was the center field, which makes sense for a
Speaker 1: guy like Joey. Yeah, that was the thing that was
Speaker 1: um highly highly debated in the last few years because
Speaker 1: they put up something in the batter's eye that actually
Speaker 1: changed the wind directions on on the stadium a little
Speaker 1: bit into the wind tunnel effect. That hasn't been as
Speaker 1: strong in recent years, but like three or four years
Speaker 1: ago left center field, it was actually a weird jet
Speaker 1: stream effect where when the wind was blowing in, it
Speaker 1: was actually better for hitting because there was this like
Speaker 1: weird jet stream effect. Architects no thing that we don't Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's the thing. So like San Francisco, I'm sure
Speaker 1: like the owners and the fronts like, all right, well
Speaker 1: you need to build it this way so that you know,
Speaker 1: San Francisco. San Francisco has a ton of wind all
Speaker 1: the time, but their park is designed to mitigate wind
Speaker 1: and so it actually has almost no impact. When you
Speaker 1: see these like games where there's like twenty two mile
Speaker 1: an hour winds out in San Francisco, it doesn't play
Speaker 1: any different. Yeah, I mean it's just a massive ballpark, right, So, um,
Speaker 1: there you go in terms of stacking players. I heard
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about this on the morning
Speaker 1: after Again, Look, you could stack players in football, you
Speaker 1: can stack players in basketball. I assume you could do
Speaker 1: the same thing in baseball. How many players can you
Speaker 1: stack on a given lineup? And is it a profitable strategy? Yes,
Speaker 1: it is. It is the most profitable strategy. And GPPs
Speaker 1: because the correlations really work in your favor. When lineups
Speaker 1: get going, they're creating more opportunities than all the other
Speaker 1: teams that you're playing against. And so on DraftKings you
Speaker 1: can stack up to five hitters from the same team
Speaker 1: on fandily you can go up to four hitters on
Speaker 1: the same team, I believe, um, And you want to
Speaker 1: be doing that in GPPs. You want to be increasing
Speaker 1: correlation in your lineups on the whole. There he is
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Speaker 1: did you do before you were so great at dfs
Speaker 1: I worked in finance, but not the way that most
Speaker 1: people think about finance. So most people think about like
Speaker 1: trading or analysis or different things like that. I worked
Speaker 1: for an institutional investment consulting firm and I did research
Speaker 1: on investment managers. So the people who were picking stocks
Speaker 1: or our clients were the people that I did research on,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was qualitative and mixed with quantitative.
Speaker 1: It helped me develop a quick understanding of like behavioral
Speaker 1: economics and the fact that people just chase the most
Speaker 1: recent returns and like what did well recently, and that
Speaker 1: helped prepare me for DFS UM and I was often
Speaker 1: tasked with trying to find and evaluate investment managers on
Speaker 1: a different level, on a level that was more qualitative
Speaker 1: in nature. So in English, Nick Myers really smart. He's
Speaker 1: a lot smarter than the rest of us. I will
Speaker 1: gladly admit that I have. You know, there's no shame
Speaker 1: in saying that. But yeah, the question I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask was that kind of helped prep you for like fantasy?
Speaker 1: It did in a lot of ways. It helped me
Speaker 1: understand so I would you know, I would make recommendations
Speaker 1: to our investment committee for managers that I thought did
Speaker 1: a good job that we should have long term our
Speaker 1: client is invested in and our investment committee would approve
Speaker 1: or or you know, disapprove of them, and the reasons
Speaker 1: for that would range in a wide array of reasons.
Speaker 1: And what it helped me to do is learn discipline
Speaker 1: of understanding that like, if you have conviction in a process,
Speaker 1: that you should stick with that process despite what results
Speaker 1: may be short term. And essentially that's really the whole
Speaker 1: part of DFS that has helped me be successful in
Speaker 1: the sense that I know I have something that works,
Speaker 1: and at times it's not gonna work, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to lose often and I'm gonna feel like I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. But as long as I can
Speaker 1: keep along that process that has proven to be successful
Speaker 1: long term, I will eventually find my path again. And
Speaker 1: so it's kind of helped my temperament um and understanding.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of similarities between finance and and you know,
Speaker 1: basically DFS is like day trading, so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of similarities. I know, our guests yesterday, Matt Modica, you know,
Speaker 1: he used to have a financial background as well. He
Speaker 1: did a lot regarding that and you know it's kind
Speaker 1: of you see it in the way that he writes,
Speaker 1: in the way that he talks about fantasy, that he
Speaker 1: kind of looks at things a little it differently. You know,
Speaker 1: he talks a lot about, like I, return on investment
Speaker 1: and you know, buying and selling at the right times,
Speaker 1: and you know that's what we look at. Um, what
Speaker 1: I look at from season long is what I like
Speaker 1: to do, and you gotta know when to do it correctly.
Speaker 1: Is you know, buying last year's trash because you know,
Speaker 1: people who got burned by Luis Castillo last year, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna want to go back to that. Well, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just in general, I like to you know,
Speaker 1: look at the players that you're getting a discount on
Speaker 1: this year versus years past. Carlos Martinez another guy that
Speaker 1: you're getting a discount on this year, where you know
Speaker 1: his return on investment can be uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: could be a profitable player because of you know, where
Speaker 1: he was going in years past and what he was
Speaker 1: the value that he was returning. And that's why a
Speaker 1: lot of the players that I will target in season
Speaker 1: long will be you know, players that have struggled either
Speaker 1: last year or recently and then you have those kind
Speaker 1: of advanced analytics to tell you that they're going to
Speaker 1: be better moving from then. The other thing that I
Speaker 1: did is while I didn't pick stocks myself, the people
Speaker 1: that I interacted with and evaluate on today today basis
Speaker 1: were the ones who were picking stocks. And one thing
Speaker 1: that I learned from them was that there there should
Speaker 1: be a theoretical price on every different company that you
Speaker 1: would want to invest in them at. And so I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people who play dfs casually they
Speaker 1: get burned by a player and they're like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna take that player again, and that's it's got
Speaker 1: to be short memory. You have to and you have
Speaker 1: to have every single player that's playing on a given
Speaker 1: night there has to be a price that you would
Speaker 1: be willing to play them at. It doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be a price that they're offered at, but there should
Speaker 1: be every single player on the slate there should be
Speaker 1: a price that you would play them at, in a
Speaker 1: price that you would not play them at. And I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people that play dfs kind
Speaker 1: of casually think through that they're not as price sensitive
Speaker 1: as they should be. As ted DiBiase used to say,
Speaker 1: everybody has a price through you ever watched wrestling or anything.
Speaker 1: I was very briefly into wrestling as a kid. I
Speaker 1: was like the sting Rick Flair kind of era was
Speaker 1: when I was watching wrestling, pretty good era to be
Speaker 1: part of. I did want to jump in a little
Speaker 1: bit here. Um. You know, we didn't talk a lot
Speaker 1: about Pacific players today, but I did want to kind
Speaker 1: of go into the Christian yellis last year. I wanted
Speaker 1: to get, you know, Drew's thoughts, as he have an opinion.
Speaker 1: I put out a poll before the show started at
Speaker 1: the Fantasy BFF Twitter account and I asked people who
Speaker 1: can be this year's Christian yellish? And you know, other
Speaker 1: people are gonna have different definitions of Chrisman yells because
Speaker 1: you know, Drew was talking to me during the break
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, so we're trying to find,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy who changed parts who uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hits the ball on the ground a lot, who makes
Speaker 1: a lot of contact but still has upside, you know,
Speaker 1: if they were moving to a new location. My thinking
Speaker 1: was I was looking at it more from just like
Speaker 1: a season long perspective and out feeler who was going,
Speaker 1: you know, round three or later, who can return first
Speaker 1: round value, because ultimately that's what Christian Yellows did last year.
Speaker 1: I know, you know, as we got closer to draft season,
Speaker 1: he was moving up draft boards, like once he went
Speaker 1: over to Miller Park and he was playing in Milwaukee. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people were buying in and
Speaker 1: pushing him into the third round, the early third round
Speaker 1: in Fantasy baseball drafts. He was the National League MVP
Speaker 1: had a ridiculous, ridiculous second have before I tell you mine,
Speaker 1: I'll throw it over to you, Drew, is there someone
Speaker 1: in the pole that the four pole that had in
Speaker 1: the poll was Andrew Benintendie, Tommy Famluig. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: he fits because he moves over to Cincinnati. And then
Speaker 1: I also included David dal who's playing with Colorado, who
Speaker 1: just really needs to stay healthy. Is there any one
Speaker 1: of those that makes sense to you or are you
Speaker 1: looking in a different direction? No, those those are really
Speaker 1: good names. I think the one that makes that jumped
Speaker 1: out to me was Puige and I had actually kind
Speaker 1: of come to that assessment without even recognizing that he
Speaker 1: was on the pole. So I feel I feel like,
Speaker 1: that's definitely my answer. Pueg was the guy that had
Speaker 1: his runs and RBI is a little bit suppressed by
Speaker 1: hitting low. And the Dodgers lineup was hitting in a
Speaker 1: tough park and was in a division that is loaded
Speaker 1: with tough parks. Right Like, obviously they have Course Field,
Speaker 1: but pet goes a difficult park to hit in. Dodger
Speaker 1: Stadium is a difficult parts hit now Oracle, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Giants parks a difficult park to hit,
Speaker 1: and and Arizona with the human or last year went
Speaker 1: from a positive offense and environment to a negative one.
Speaker 1: So that's basically the four parks in the division that
Speaker 1: you're mostly playing their games in their difficult offensive environments.
Speaker 1: You go into the NL Central and Milwaukee is a
Speaker 1: great park, Cincinnati is a great park. Hittsburgh is a
Speaker 1: tough park. Chicago is a you know, bipolar park. It
Speaker 1: plays great sometimes of the years, it's difficult other times
Speaker 1: of the year. So it's a little bit scheduled induced um.
Speaker 1: But I think that week will hit in a better
Speaker 1: spot in the lineup. He's getting a huge park upgrade.
Speaker 1: He's in the midst of his career. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that had a strikeout rate that was somewhat similar to
Speaker 1: Christian Yellich. And while he started to hit a few
Speaker 1: more flyballs last year because the Dodgers have been on
Speaker 1: the launch angle revolution led by Justin Turner, what they
Speaker 1: did for Max Monthly last year, Chris Taylor, all these
Speaker 1: guys um, so we got a little bit of that
Speaker 1: influence on him. Now he gets the influence of Joey
Speaker 1: Vado as well in terms of plate discipline and controlling
Speaker 1: the strike zone. We does run a little bit similar
Speaker 1: to Christian yellig so we would be my guy. You know,
Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought about the effect that a guy
Speaker 1: like Joey Vado and have on him, because you're right,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's solely on Joey Votto. But look
Speaker 1: at a guy like Scooter Jeannette, right that came over
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee to Cincinnati, kind of improves all around as
Speaker 1: an offensive hitter, his recognition of of pitches, of the
Speaker 1: strike zone in general, not striking out as much, making
Speaker 1: harder contact. He's really become a mainstay at the second
Speaker 1: based position for fantasy baseball. And you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: ask yourself how much did being around a guy like
Speaker 1: Joey Vado, even if Joey Vado is not just like
Speaker 1: in his ear all the time telling him like, all right,
Speaker 1: here's what you need to do it to your swing.
Speaker 1: Here's how you identify this pitch. I think just being
Speaker 1: around a guy like Joey Vado and kind of seeing
Speaker 1: his approach and seeing, you know, how he goes up
Speaker 1: to the plate. I remember Michael Florio told me this
Speaker 1: a few years ago that Joey Vado changed the way
Speaker 1: that he held the bat based on who he was facing.
Speaker 1: Every single day. He had like multiple different ways that
Speaker 1: he would hold the bat, like he would choke up
Speaker 1: this far. I mean, he looks kind of crazy sometimes
Speaker 1: if you go up there and you watch Joey Vado,
Speaker 1: you watch Cincinnati Red games, like he's choking all the
Speaker 1: way up on the bat um. He's doing things that
Speaker 1: other people aren't. I remember, specifically, he used to have
Speaker 1: a certain way that he would bat and hold the
Speaker 1: bat just when he was facing Clayton Kershaw's kind of
Speaker 1: the brilliance of Joey vot is the treasure, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the one of the guys that you know,
Speaker 1: Baseball's dropped the ball on promoting their stars in a
Speaker 1: number of ways. But Joey Votto is a guy that
Speaker 1: should be a national star. The personality is incredible. If
Speaker 1: you see, like all the videos that pop up during
Speaker 1: the course of the season of Joe Vatto interacting with fans,
Speaker 1: like you know, exchanging jerseys in the crowd. He's out
Speaker 1: there for sure, he's awesome, and like these guys should
Speaker 1: be marketed in a more substantial way, as like Joey
Speaker 1: Votto and Mike Trout are just a blessing to have
Speaker 1: in the game, and they're just not marketed well enough
Speaker 1: in their individual sport. So if I told you that
Speaker 1: ye was going pick seventy one right now in the NFBC,
Speaker 1: that's a nationally Fantasy Baseball Championship. The two outfielders that
Speaker 1: are going just ahead of him are Lorenzo Kane and
Speaker 1: George Springer, you would say, what I think, he's probably
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of
Speaker 1: jump in production expected there with the guys that he's
Speaker 1: going around. But those guys make sense to me in
Speaker 1: the sense that those guys are candidates as well. Those
Speaker 1: guys are in good ballparks as well. I think i'd
Speaker 1: bet on ya c l Pweags upside over Lorenzo Caine.
Speaker 1: I think Springer has a similar level of upside and
Speaker 1: Springer has a better lineup overall to hit in, so
Speaker 1: I'd probably take Springer out of him. I think Lorenzo
Speaker 1: Caine is a little bit of a safer investment than
Speaker 1: yas l peeg Um. But at that point in the draft,
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of looking for upside um over safety.
Speaker 1: I kind of prioritize like rejectable safety in the early
Speaker 1: rounds in the draft, and then as we get in
Speaker 1: the mid rounds, I try to take on a little
Speaker 1: bit more risk, and then depending on the overall risk
Speaker 1: profile of my team is how I deal with the
Speaker 1: later rounds. Sometimes I have a risky team that i've started,
Speaker 1: I'll go for like safer guys with playing time. Other times,
Speaker 1: if I start with like a more safe team, I'll
Speaker 1: kind of mix in some risk later on um. But
Speaker 1: I would say I like Twig ahead of Cane similar
Speaker 1: to Springer, but I think Springers a little bit of
Speaker 1: a safer due to the team environment with Houston on
Speaker 1: the whole, and I think with George Springer, he's kind
Speaker 1: have fallen down here. Yeah, this seems too low for
Speaker 1: George Springer. He's going to pick sixties six. I get that. Look,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna run. He ran a lot when he
Speaker 1: was in the minors, and like that's never really come
Speaker 1: to that. That's the level um. And he's kind of
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, he needs to play every
Speaker 1: single day, Like he's he's a guy who accumulates stats
Speaker 1: like he's gonna score a hundred runs assuming that he
Speaker 1: plays all the time and that he's healthy. And you know,
Speaker 1: he'll come close to hitting thirty home runs assuming that
Speaker 1: he's healthy. But you know he's gonna bat lead up,
Speaker 1: so maybe you have some RBI production the batting average
Speaker 1: you know, to sixty seventy range. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel he's fallen down the draft board a little bit too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's got to be the lack of running, as
Speaker 1: you alluded to there, because he's he's so consistent in
Speaker 1: the run scoring opportunities because the offense is still good.
Speaker 1: So he's always going to be playing in a in
Speaker 1: a good offense, you know, hitting at the top of
Speaker 1: the order, and he's a guy that you know is
Speaker 1: you know, to six seventy five, which in this day
Speaker 1: and age in baseball, that's not an average detractor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's above average actually, because league average is what we're
Speaker 1: right round two fifty. So it's weird. It's weird to
Speaker 1: think of George Springer as a guy that's adding to
Speaker 1: your batting every from the hole. Yeah, definitely my pick
Speaker 1: would be. And we spoke about this a little bit
Speaker 1: too during the breaks. Tommy fam and I've kind of
Speaker 1: I've talked about him a little bit so far. You know,
Speaker 1: Greg and I have a team, we have an auction
Speaker 1: team together where we're kind of trying to identify players
Speaker 1: that we both like. And Tommy Fam was just one
Speaker 1: of these guys that jumped off the page. Um and
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of similarities between Christian
Speaker 1: Yellows too. He didn't change teams in the All season here,
Speaker 1: but he changed teams last year from the St. Louis
Speaker 1: Cardinals over to the Tampa Bay Rays. So look, it's
Speaker 1: a much better division to hit in now, not necessarily
Speaker 1: the trop but you know, he's gonna he's gonna play
Speaker 1: in the stadium, he's gonna play in Candy, he's gonna
Speaker 1: play in Fenway, forty eight point five percent hard hit
Speaker 1: rate last year, similar to Christian Yellows hits the ball
Speaker 1: on the ground a lot forty eight percent of the time,
Speaker 1: but hits a lot of line drives. Ideally, you'd want
Speaker 1: to see him increase that launch angle, hit more flyballs.
Speaker 1: But look at his home run to flyball ratio in
Speaker 1: his career twenty three point nine percent, and that's over
Speaker 1: the course of fifteen just about appearances. That's a pretty
Speaker 1: big sample size. So that tells me that he can
Speaker 1: sustain a home run the flyball ratio of over you know,
Speaker 1: he can see you anywhere from bases. Steals are the
Speaker 1: big thing there too, because five home runs, Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: is a team that's going to be willing to run.
Speaker 1: They've always been a team that's willing to run, so
Speaker 1: so that's the thing that really really is important for
Speaker 1: for them to be able to generate those stolen bases.
Speaker 1: Before we get into Tommy fam for the rest of
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Speaker 1: and so forth. We thank you very very much. With Tommy,
Speaker 1: fam if you want to get him this year, there
Speaker 1: is a price to pay though that like you're basically
Speaker 1: paying for It's not the ceiling in my opinion, because again,
Speaker 1: if I'm calling him Christian Yellow, that means and I
Speaker 1: think he can return maybe not first round value, he
Speaker 1: still does strike out a lot, but I think he
Speaker 1: can return second, third round value. Right now, he's going
Speaker 1: to pick a fifty seven, So in a team league,
Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth round, I feel like
Speaker 1: he should be going closer to the Springer puig T here.
Speaker 1: I think he should be falling down a little bit,
Speaker 1: like I think he's a little bit for a little
Speaker 1: bit of the ceiling here with Tommy. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: is not young. He's thirty. Yeah, I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of surprising. Good, But he's interesting career kind of guys
Speaker 1: a little bit longer to get up to the big
Speaker 1: leagues and some of these guys, but had immediate success
Speaker 1: when he when he did get up there. Yeah, and look,
Speaker 1: if you read the story last year on sports. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you call it this at all. Drew,
Speaker 1: he was basically, you know, he was very upfront about
Speaker 1: how he felt like, I'm better than the players on
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Why are they playing you know, these guys
Speaker 1: ahead of me? You know, he didn't back away from that.
Speaker 1: You know, he used some used some interesting language as well. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a fiery due. I don't want to
Speaker 1: buy into like narrative. I mean, we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: like a statistical show. We're supposed to you know, draft
Speaker 1: players based on statistical information. But I mean it kind
Speaker 1: of makes me like him a little bit more too,
Speaker 1: if I'm just being honest. All yeah, So so Tommy
Speaker 1: fan would be my pick. Look, uh, Andrew Bennintendie is
Speaker 1: winning the poll right now, fifty one percent of the vote.
Speaker 1: I think, Look, he's gonna be a popular pick. He's still,
Speaker 1: you know, just twenty four years old, plays in a
Speaker 1: good hitting environment in Boston. It's not so great in
Speaker 1: terms of being a lefty in Fenway, but the lineup
Speaker 1: that he plays in with Mookie Betts and and j D. Martinez,
Speaker 1: I understand why a lot of people are gonna want Benintendie,
Speaker 1: but still does struggle against lefties. That's been constant throughout
Speaker 1: his career at the MLB level, So something like that
Speaker 1: worries me a little bit. True, I'm also not sure
Speaker 1: that he has the high end power that a launch
Speaker 1: angle change would really unlock a lot of power for him.
Speaker 1: I think he you know, and that's what kind of
Speaker 1: what happened with Yellows is. He was the guy that
Speaker 1: hit a ton of groundballs in Miami and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden started hitting fly balls a little bit
Speaker 1: a little bit better rate, not a ton better rate,
Speaker 1: but the ball just jumped out of the park more
Speaker 1: often than Miller Park. I'm not sure Benntenni has that
Speaker 1: upper end raw power that's going to translate into a
Speaker 1: ton of home runs. I think he's all gonna be
Speaker 1: a really solid average guy and in that lineup generated
Speaker 1: lots of runs in RBIs. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: people were calling him Benny Biceps last year, and I
Speaker 1: have to question where's the beef here when it comes
Speaker 1: to Andrew Benintenni, because I'm looking at his statistical profile
Speaker 1: is bad at ball data here, a lot of medium
Speaker 1: contact in a year where hard hit rate went bananas.
Speaker 1: In baseball, the league average was thirty five percent. This
Speaker 1: was twenty eight percent. I mean, Benny Biceps on this guy,
Speaker 1: isn't Benny biceps nine point four percent home run to
Speaker 1: fly ball ratio. Look, he's only again, he's only twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. He'll turn twenty five in July this year.
Speaker 1: So now I guess there's a chance that he, you know,
Speaker 1: put on some muscle in the off season. But little
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