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Speaker 3: number six hundred and fifteen overall stop in the career

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what it's all about, Paul, right now,

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Speaker 1: That's critical and that's what they're all learning right now, Paul.

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Speaker 3: And you might say, Okay, what's the big deal. One

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Speaker 3: But guess what. If you're multitasking, then you're not on

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Speaker 1: You're right, Polly, little things are big things.

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Speaker 3: Discipline matters starts there. And how many times after games

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Speaker 1: Oh, it will cost you games in a big, big

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Speaker 1: All of this, Paul, is what you're doing. You're laying

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Speaker 3: And besides, in his words quote I ain't no hater.

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Speaker 1: Paul, Because once again it's it's a weird situation to

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Speaker 3: It well hit zoom out in his career. It's an

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Speaker 3: What have you learned about the NFL so far?

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Speaker 4: You got to be prepared, you know, you got to

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm just confident in my abilities.

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Speaker 3: serious potential there. I mean, who other guys that we

436
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Speaker 3: should keep an eye on you think when training camp starts.

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Speaker 4: Man, there's a lot of them. I feel like, you know,

438
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Speaker 4: all those guys in the receiver room have done a

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Speaker 4: really good job. Like you said, Michael's done a really

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Speaker 4: good job. He's opened up some eyes Hollywood. Obviously, Zach

441
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Speaker 4: Pascal solid. You know, he's always where he's supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: He's running good routes, he's he's doing the right things.

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Speaker 4: Same with Dorch and dre Ron Dale obviously super talented.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what he can do with the

445
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Speaker 4: ball in his hands, because in practice you can't tackle,

446
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Speaker 4: but in a live situation, I'm sure it's really hard

447
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Speaker 4: to get that guy on the ground.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Ron Dale in Hollywood and Greg Dortch had

449
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Speaker 3: made some defenders look really bad. Yes, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this offense? How much of

451
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Speaker 3: a challenge has the playbook been and what sort of

452
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Speaker 3: fit do you think this scheme is for you? I

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's more pro style than what I've done

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Speaker 4: in the past, but I love it. You know, they're

456
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Speaker 4: putting some more run game checks on me, which is

457
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Speaker 4: good same in the past game more protection responsibilities, but

458
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Speaker 4: we still have down the field concepts. We try to

459
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Speaker 4: air it out when need be. And you know, it's

460
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Speaker 4: all about a good mix. It's a good flow. Like

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Speaker 4: I said, it's the flow of the game. You got

462
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Speaker 4: to know when you want to run it, when you

463
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Speaker 4: want to throw it, just depending on the flow of

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Speaker 4: the game and the defense that you're playing.

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Speaker 3: So I love it. There's no doubt you're going to

466
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Speaker 3: get reps, right, I mean, everything we've seen, I mean,

467
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Speaker 3: there's going to be an opportunit unity and let's face it,

468
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Speaker 3: there's everyone has a new set of eyes on them,

469
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Speaker 3: whether you're a rookie or you've been here nine years

470
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Speaker 3: like DJ humphreyes, there are new decision makers around. I mean,

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Speaker 3: just that itself must be intriguing as a player on

472
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Speaker 3: this roster, that you get to make a first impression

473
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Speaker 3: like everybody else your rookie year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I'm excited for the opportunity. You know, I

475
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Speaker 4: love coach JG, Coach Petsing, Coach wolf Fork, everyone you

476
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Speaker 4: know on the staff has been great. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: my job is just come in here, put my head

478
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Speaker 4: down and make a good impression. And the fact that

479
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Speaker 4: it's new to everybody is exciting.

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Speaker 3: If there's an underrated part of your game, would it

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Speaker 3: be your mobility? We heard that highlight to start this segment,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I mean the play by play guy was, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was pretty enthusiastic about you getting into

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Speaker 3: the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would say my mobility. Yeah, I feel

487
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Speaker 4: like I'm an underrated rusher, but that's not my main game.

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Speaker 4: I would say, obviously, I want to sit in the

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Speaker 4: pocket and make throws and get it to guys like

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Speaker 4: Ron Dale and Dortsch and those type of guys. But

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Speaker 4: need be, I can make plays off schedule and scramble

492
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Speaker 4: throw on the run, that type of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Any rookie duties so far. If you had to stock

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Speaker 3: the quarterback room with snacks, for example.

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Speaker 4: Those snacks, but I've stocked the fridge. We have a

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Speaker 4: mini fridge in there that I've stocked with water and gatorade.

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Speaker 3: So that's about it. That's good, okay, all right? And

498
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Speaker 3: who's who's the guy you got to keep your head

499
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Speaker 3: on a swivel four in the quarterback room? Like, who's

500
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Speaker 3: the guy who's most likely to siteswipe you with an

501
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Speaker 3: insult or something? Who's gonna get you in there? Man?

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Speaker 4: They're all really great, They're all. They're all nice. Cult We'll,

503
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Speaker 4: you know, make some some jokes here and there, which

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Speaker 4: I love. I love that type of banter. They're all,

505
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Speaker 4: you know, great dudes. You know everyone. I'll make a

506
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Speaker 4: joke here and there, but I love it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we enjoyed it. Forty four starts over your college career,

508
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Speaker 3: So we'll see how that translates. I mean, look, there

509
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Speaker 3: were ten quarterbacks trapped in the first one hundred and

510
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Speaker 3: fifty picks. A lot of people think it was the

511
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Speaker 3: brock Purty effect. So we'll see. Clayton tune has been

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Speaker 3: our guest appreciated Clayton, Yes, sir, I appreciate you back

513
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Speaker 3: with more of the big red rage resented by santan

514
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Speaker 3: Port and Gilbert right after this.

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Speaker 7: Drew he didn't skip any steps. He was a quality

516
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Speaker 7: control first, and he's a receivers coach, and he's a

517
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Speaker 7: tight ends coach, and he's a quarterback coach. I always

518
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Speaker 7: thought Drew was about the right things as far as

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Speaker 7: from a team standpoint, character standpoint. He was curious about

520
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Speaker 7: the game, and hey, this is how Norv did it.

521
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Speaker 7: But then I like, this is what Shermer did. And

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Speaker 7: then Kevin kind of changed this, and then he was

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Speaker 7: with Kubiak for a little bit, and I just loved

524
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Speaker 7: that he coached different positions on the offense and really

525
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Speaker 7: had the right answers with how we want to play

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Speaker 7: as a team and as an offense.

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Speaker 3: As Cardinal, said coach Jonathan Gannon in the most recent

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Speaker 3: edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. A great listen you

529
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Speaker 3: get insight into the head coaches personality is drive and

530
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Speaker 3: as to why he hired these coaches and coordinators, and

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Speaker 3: I think and it's easy to hear right there, especially

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Speaker 3: when you consider that his mantra is adapt or die.

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Speaker 3: And we'll hear more from Jonathan Ganna on that a

534
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Speaker 3: little bit later in this edition the Big Red Rage

535
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Speaker 3: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. But you hear all

536
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Speaker 3: the different influences on and Drew pets and you realize

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Speaker 3: he is multiple in his thinking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, No, there's no doubt about that with Drew Petsing.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to talk about JG for a

540
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Speaker 1: second here briefly because he sounds so much more under

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Speaker 1: control right now. For JG, we all know about the

542
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Speaker 1: energy thing, and it's great that he's got all this

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Speaker 1: energy all the time. But PAULI, I've talked to you

544
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Speaker 1: about this before. If you're always up here many times,

545
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Speaker 1: your players can tune you out, and JG, I have noticed,

546
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Speaker 1: has brought it down. I'm sure he was probably all

547
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Speaker 1: excited about being a first time head coach, of course,

548
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Speaker 1: and getting to put your own personal spin on the

549
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Speaker 1: game of football and how you're going to do it

550
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Speaker 1: and how you're going to create your own culture. And

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Speaker 1: the energy was way up here with JG and it

552
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Speaker 1: was great. But I love what I'm hearing from him

553
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Speaker 1: right now. He's just bringing it down to more of

554
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact type approach on that. I think

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Speaker 1: that's important.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to watch him work at these OTAs because

557
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Speaker 3: different days there's different tempos, and Rondell Moore told us

558
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Speaker 3: about that in the most recent edition of The Big

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Speaker 3: Red Rage. Players really like that. There's some days where

560
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Speaker 3: they're going much harder than other days. And there are

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Speaker 3: days where Johnathan again and just standing there watching with

562
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Speaker 3: his sunglasses on, arms folded. Other days he's got the bullhorn.

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Speaker 3: And let me just tell you he's held more than

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Speaker 3: one player accountable.

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Speaker 1: I'll just heard.

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Speaker 3: So Okay, now we heard d Jemfries this week when

567
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Speaker 3: he was meeting the media, always entertaining stuff, always informative

568
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Speaker 3: and talking about Drew Pets And let's segue back, because

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Speaker 3: here's your franchise left tackle on what he likes so

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Speaker 3: far about his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I liked you a lot.

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Speaker 5: Drew is a really good communicator and getting stuff across

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Speaker 5: that he wants to get done and how he wants

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Speaker 5: us to be. So I'm a big fan of Drew

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Speaker 5: his personality and how he is with getting guys to

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Speaker 5: understand stuff and making sure that we're all on the

577
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Speaker 5: same page and kind of take it and make it

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Speaker 5: an emphasis to make sure we hone in on all

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Speaker 5: this details.

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Speaker 3: See there, you hear it again. Attention to detail.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: If there's one takeaway for me, just in talking to

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Speaker 3: these coaches and reading between the lines and the press conferences,

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Speaker 3: that is one thing that they are stressing more than anything,

585
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Speaker 3: winning football. And when somebody makes a mistake, it's real simple,

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Speaker 3: that's not winning football. Let's correct it right here and

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Speaker 3: move on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's amazing because I'm disciplined and being

589
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Speaker 1: individually disciplined. Being personally disciplined as opposed to collectively disciplined.

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Speaker 1: It's two different things completely, and it does start with

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Speaker 1: the individual to begin with, and yet disciplined, Paul is

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Speaker 1: what is so critical to any culture going forward, whether

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Speaker 1: you've got disciplined or a lack thereof.

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Speaker 3: So last week, James Connor, you're RB one, right, former

595
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl running back. He was asked by the media, So,

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Speaker 3: James what are you looking forward to most of this

597
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Speaker 3: new Cardinals scheme? And he said, and I quote, that

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Speaker 3: we're going to be unning the ball a lot more.

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Speaker 3: And you let it hang. DJ Humphreys asked about the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals new scheme and his first meeting with Drew Petsing,

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Speaker 3: and he said, as soon as Drew told him that

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Speaker 3: we're going to run the ball more, he's all he

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Speaker 3: had me. I just tuned out. That's all I needed

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Speaker 3: to hear. It's all I needed to hear to be

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Speaker 3: on board. You spent a good ten plus minutes with

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Speaker 3: Drew Petsen. What were some of your takeaways just as

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Speaker 3: to what you expect for this Cardinals offense in the identity.

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Speaker 1: Pay warm blanket on a cold winner's night, is it

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Speaker 1: kind of that's what we can expect right there, honestly,

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Speaker 1: just talking to him about his offense. And we're going

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Speaker 1: to see the Cleveland Brown offense that they ran last year.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're going to see that here. We're going

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Speaker 1: to see the Arizona Cardinals quarterback under center. We're going

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Speaker 1: to see a lot of twelve personnel, even thirteen personnel,

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, thirteen personnel, one back,

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Speaker 1: three tight ends, and if you take one of those

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Speaker 1: tight ends and you stick them in the backfield as

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Speaker 1: a full back, it's more like twenty two personnel from

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Speaker 1: a defensive perspective. The number three personnel group for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns when Drew Petsing was there last year was

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Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, two backs. With the Arizona Cardinals don't

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Speaker 1: have a two back system here. We do not have

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Speaker 1: a full back system here, but we do use an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of tight ends. This is what is going

625
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Speaker 1: to be here going forward. It's going to be more

626
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Speaker 1: of a attack the line of scrimmage offense and use

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Speaker 1: play action to throw the ball. We're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: lot more of that. And the best way to do that, Paul,

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Speaker 1: the best way to attack that line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 1: use play action to throw the ball is a quarterback

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Speaker 1: under center more. Not all the time, just more.

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Speaker 3: And So if I was to say James Connor is

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Speaker 3: going to be utilized in a Nick Chubb type role,

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Speaker 3: I mean that would be plausible, right, That would be

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Speaker 3: feesis and you know what, I think it would be

636
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Speaker 3: football number one. Last time we saw James Connor in

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Speaker 3: a contract year. He was Pro Bowl caliber. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: you know what, towards the end of last season, I

639
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: brought this up on Cardinals Underground with Darren Herman and

640
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Speaker 3: Danny Serek. Like Week fifteen against Tampa in a close game,

641
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Speaker 3: you had a third string quarterback Trace McSorley through it

642
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Speaker 3: forty five times. When James Connor averaged five point three

643
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Speaker 3: yards of carry against Tampa's wolful rush defense he had

644
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Speaker 3: he only had fifteen carries. Yes, so if we're noticing that,

645
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Speaker 3: you can bet the new Cardinals' coaching staff has seen

646
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Speaker 3: as much on film.

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Speaker 1: And not only that too, but this offensive line I

648
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Speaker 1: think is really built to come off the ball and

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Speaker 1: be very, very physical at the point of attack. And

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Speaker 1: James Connor as well. When you talk about that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got Will Hernandez who's three fitty right now, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and he would tell you that himself, and yeah, he'll

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Speaker 1: be down by training camp. But still you got big

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Speaker 1: physical guys up front, and James Connor stick his toes

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Speaker 1: at seven yards. He's two thirty eight right now. Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how I kim let him attack

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I'm really, really encouraged based on

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Speaker 1: what I heard from Drew Petzig.

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Speaker 3: You know you're in the NFL when a former defensive

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Speaker 3: lineman in college is starting running back. That's how you

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Speaker 3: know it's the NFL. Here's Rondelle Moore, it was gonna

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Speaker 3: be one of your starting receivers. What he likes so

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Speaker 3: far from the Drew Petsen scheme, he mass it up, man.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of getting in twelve twenty

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Speaker 6: two and running the ball, throwing some passes out of

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Speaker 6: those formations. Obviously, we'll spread it out a little bit,

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Speaker 6: primarily obviously the two receivers on the field in eleven,

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Speaker 6: and then we'll you know, go empty and toss the

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Speaker 6: ball around. I think we've gut some cu'es back there

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Speaker 6: that can get the job done. And it's been a

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Speaker 6: great mixture of all the above throughout the OTAs.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because Cole and there he is echoing a

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Speaker 3: lot of what you just said.

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Speaker 1: Mixture.

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Speaker 3: Colt McCoy said, and I'm quoting. What we're doing now

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Speaker 3: is very similar to the way that I've played most

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Speaker 3: of my career, So that helps my transition.

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Speaker 2: So can a right.

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Speaker 3: But I read that as Okay, much more traditional football

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Speaker 3: than what we've seen the last four years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, much more traditional football than what we have

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Speaker 1: seen over the last four years, of course, But I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting to hear rondel More actually

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Speaker 1: reference twenty two personnel. Okay, bally twelve percent, one back,

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Speaker 1: two tights. We get that, two backs, two tights, twenty

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Speaker 1: two personnel, one wide receiver. Okay, now, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're really going to see two backs.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll see that two backs, but typically when

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Speaker 1: you go two back, one of them is a full back.

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Speaker 1: One of them is going to be there to block

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Speaker 1: for the most part. But I have seen in the

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Speaker 1: open portions from time to time, I have seen a

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Speaker 1: tight end line up in a full back position in

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Speaker 1: the backfield, whether weak or strong, line up and actually

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Speaker 1: run some full back type plays from that position. I

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Speaker 1: think maybe that's what Rondell might be referencing right there

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Speaker 1: to personnel, just the fact that, okay, it's more like

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Speaker 1: thirteen one back, three tights, but they put a tight

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Speaker 1: end in the backfield and it makes it look like

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Speaker 1: twenty two.

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Speaker 3: All I know is Cole McCoy said to the media

702
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Speaker 3: that we're huddling now, we're using cadence, we're making mic points,

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Speaker 3: We're doing a lot of these things.

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Speaker 1: Paul, the huddle. Do you have any idea? This is

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Speaker 1: something that the huddle is so critical because many times

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Speaker 1: in the huddle you'll remind each other of certain situations

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Speaker 1: that happen in a game as a play is being

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Speaker 1: called and you're in a huddle. The accountability, the eye

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Speaker 1: contact Paul, that you're making with other guys in the huddle,

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Speaker 1: there's something about that. There's encouragement you can actually glean

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Speaker 1: from that eye contact as well, and from a guy

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Speaker 1: speaking up saying, hey, guys, remember the last third night,

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Speaker 1: we are down inside the red zone here? Remember it?

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Speaker 1: What happened? They brought that corner blitz right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: just little little reasons as to why you should hut.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: How many times over the years when Kurt Warner and

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Speaker 3: Carson Palmer were miked up, when you had that veteran quarterback,

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Speaker 3: they had advice to say, like they'll call the play

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Speaker 3: and they'll grab one guy and say, hey, here's your job.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's those little things again that are big things

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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Shoote Paul. Great for him.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, on this Cardinal's new offense, you

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Speaker 3: might have a new starting right tackle. Just saying because

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon told the media this week that Paris Johnson

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Speaker 3: junior quote has what you're looking for in a starting tackle.

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Speaker 3: there will be a Kyler on the field for mandatory

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Speaker 3: miniicam next week. Kyler McMichael, an undrafted rookie last year

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Speaker 3: signed as a cornerback. Oh, he's joined the roster. More

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Speaker 3: big red rage right after this.

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Speaker 7: You know, I use the phrase adapt or die man.

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Speaker 7: You know, the game's changing, The players are changing. You know,

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Speaker 7: like you got a seven or eight year vet and

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Speaker 7: a rookie coming in. Like they're different people, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean. They play football differently. That eight to

742
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Speaker 7: ten year gap of age difference for players that are

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Speaker 7: on our team. They grew up playing differently, They went

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Speaker 7: to high school and played differently, they played college ball

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Speaker 7: is significantly different. Right now, you got to be able

746
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Speaker 7: to blend the two there. But yeah, I'm very I

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Speaker 7: guess I'm curious, like, hey, what is the best way

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty three? You know what I mean? You

749
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Speaker 7: try to figure it out. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 7: But I am not here's my playbook and here's what

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Speaker 7: we're running. I don't think that's the way to go.

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Speaker 3: Ron Woofley, Are you sure you didn't hire the head

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Speaker 3: coach Jonathan Gannon that it wasn't Michael Bidwell and Many

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Speaker 3: Assin Fort because when I hear him use the word blend,

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Speaker 3: I think of you.

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Speaker 1: I know, I just I love what I'm hearing again

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Speaker 1: from JG and Drew Patsing the offensive coordinator and Nick

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Speaker 1: Rawllis as well the DC. He's awesome.

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Speaker 3: By the way, You're gonna love Cardinals flight plan coming

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Speaker 3: scenes with Paris Johnson at the draft Oh, behind the

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Speaker 3: scenes in the war room, the Many Austin Ford stuff

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Speaker 3: in the war room, pulling off the trades, that is,

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Speaker 3: gripping stuff. The Cardinals rookies going out to a d

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Speaker 3: Backs game, always entertaining so once again Cardinals flight plan

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Speaker 3: dropping top of the hour. As we wrap up this

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Speaker 3: edition to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 3: in Gilbert, we are Santan Ford and we are talking

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Speaker 3: defense here. You had a chance to sit down with

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Speaker 3: the new defensive coordinator, Nick Rollis, right, maybe just give me.

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Speaker 3: You know, so you've sat with both coordinators and there's

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Speaker 3: some commonalities there. Yes, isn't there the whole adapt or

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Speaker 3: die thing. Both guys like JG Espouses. I mean, they're

775
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Speaker 3: gonna have a lot in their toolbox.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I will tell you

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Speaker 1: that Nick Rowlis was a guy that really impact me

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Speaker 1: because he had a smoldering intensity about him number one

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Speaker 1: and a do your job. I'm going to demand that

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Speaker 1: you do your job now, you know what. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's because he's so young. He is so young,

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Speaker 1: and maybe he says things in a very decisive kind

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Speaker 1: of way. But I was really really impressed with Nick

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Speaker 1: Rawlis as well. Not just Drew Pets and Drew Petsing

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Speaker 1: sounded like an offensive coordinator, very very articulate. With Nick Rawlis.

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Speaker 1: It was more about the smoldering physicality that we're going

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Speaker 1: to play on the defensive side of the ball. Might

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Speaker 1: not be good enough to win games, but how you're

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Speaker 1: going to do that. The Cardinals are going to line

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Speaker 1: up and try to bash somebody in the face.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nick royleis celebrating his thirtieth birthday this summer. So there

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Speaker 3: you go. Before Cardinals camp, and once they get to camp,

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Speaker 3: all eyes on defense are going to be on the

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Speaker 3: two first round linebackers once upon a time, both who

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Speaker 3: have now moved to different positions. Damon Collins, at least

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Speaker 3: so far in the offseason, what we've been allowed to see,

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Speaker 3: he's been an outside linebacker and edge rusher, and Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 3: He's been in the safety room with Buddha Baker and

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Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson. That's where we've seen him on the field.

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Speaker 3: As for an outlook for the two, here's the head coach,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 7: They need to be impact players for us, and that's

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Speaker 7: how we're treating them. You know, both of those guys

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Speaker 7: are extremely intelligent. So everyone sees a physical skill set,

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Speaker 7: but they don't know what they have in their brain.

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Speaker 7: And that's what excites me the most about those two

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Speaker 7: guys is their brain. And why that excites me is

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Speaker 7: is when they can understand why you're doing things and

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Speaker 7: how we're deploying them, it allows you to be creative

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Speaker 7: with what you can do with them.

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Speaker 3: Right, So there go from the pash pod by the way,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon, give him some insight of those Where do

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Speaker 3: you want to start which player?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, he have to start with Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: You have to. This guy is so multi talented, He's

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Speaker 1: got so much ability and whether or not he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to channel that ability in this new

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Speaker 1: defense going forward to I don't know what to expect

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Speaker 1: from Isaiah Simmons at this point in time. I think

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Speaker 1: we look at Zaban Collins and we know that Xavan's

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Speaker 1: going to be on the edge. They're going to stick

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Speaker 1: him on the edge. Pauli, you've been talking about this

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Speaker 1: all off season. Of course you have seen him on

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Speaker 1: the edge and you think that's where his spot might

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Speaker 1: be going forward, And based on the evidence we have

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Speaker 1: right now, I would agree with you on this, But

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Speaker 1: to me, it's Isaiah Simmons. What are you going to

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Speaker 1: do with Isaiah Simmons, I asked Nick Rowlis is very,

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Speaker 1: very thing. We got into a conversation about leaving a

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Speaker 1: guy at one position and allowing him to do a B,

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Speaker 1: C and D and master that before you move him

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. And Nick Rawlins was on the same page.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, based on the fact they've used him in six

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Speaker 3: different positions so far in his NFL career, that would

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Speaker 3: be in his best interest both Isaiah Simmons it is,

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Speaker 3: and the Cardinals, but ultimately is safety truly his best

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Speaker 3: spot your Advanced Joseph Towards the end of last year,

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Speaker 3: he was very honest with the media one point saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's more suited to play in space, but

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Speaker 3: you know, does he have that ability to play in

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Speaker 3: the back end, for example, in space, but maybe more

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Speaker 3: in the box? And so there's these conflicting scouter reports

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Speaker 3: as to exactly what he's capable of. I'm so intrigued

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Speaker 3: to know what these new coaches think of him and

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Speaker 3: how they're going to deploy him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. Based on what you just said in

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Speaker 1: Advanced Joseph, in his take right there, I could see

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Speaker 1: him being the weak side inside all over again and

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Speaker 1: sticking him at the weak side inside where I thought

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Speaker 1: from the very beginning they should have put him and said,

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Speaker 1: here's what we demand from you from this position. Hey

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Speaker 1: b Sandy, But you're right, Polly. It looks as though

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Speaker 1: right now they're going to start him out in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: And if he's on the tight end a lot. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know that was the line when he was drafted

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Speaker 3: eighth overalls. He was drafted to cover the tight end.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I can see Zavi and Collins in coverage. I think

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Speaker 3: that was an under right a part of Zavion Collins

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Speaker 3: game a year ago, him in coverage on backs and

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Speaker 3: tight ends. Yeah, I thought he was excellent downfield, so

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Speaker 3: he can be used in those roles. I'm guessing on

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Speaker 3: third and long, you know, obvious passing downs. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: dial up a lot of these different things and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna bring in different players. But when he had zoom

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Speaker 3: out in the entire defense, I think between now in camp,

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Speaker 3: are they gonna sign another defensive lineman? Are they gonna

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Speaker 3: stick with what they have? Whereas I think the offensive

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Speaker 3: line is bidding to be better than most envision, I

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Speaker 3: do still have some question marks whether they have enough

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Speaker 3: depth in the d line room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I love as well. Zavan Collins

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Speaker 1: is a big edge player. He's a big edge player

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Speaker 1: at two hundred and sixty pounds. That's really great. And

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Speaker 1: I just got done talking to Cameron Thomas as well.

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Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas two have you seen him? Paul two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy pounds? Have you seen the muscle mass he's

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Speaker 1: this dude is put on.

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Speaker 3: He's been winning the offseason. Yes, I did talk to

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Speaker 3: him for a while. He got down to two fifty

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Speaker 3: five and then Putt got back up to two seventy

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Speaker 3: the right way.

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Speaker 1: He's two seventy. He did it the right way to

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Speaker 1: your point right there, and he's being played right now

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Speaker 1: exclusively as the edge. Two big guys like that on

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Speaker 1: the edge. That might tell you a little something about

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Speaker 1: what Nick Rollins and JG might be running.

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Speaker 3: What's also intriguing about Cameron Thomas, the third round pick

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Speaker 3: last year, is he had a body composition study, he said,

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Speaker 3: and they say he could easily carry three hundred pounds,

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Speaker 3: which is what his brother and his dad. It's in

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Speaker 3: his family DNA. So you really wonder three years from

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Speaker 3: now if he might be a five technique.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was interesting because he was talking about

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Speaker 1: that very thing. He liked playing as a three technique.

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Speaker 1: He liked being over the outside shoulder of the guard.

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Speaker 1: He liked being over the outside shoulder of an offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle in that five technique. He's getting used to being

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Speaker 1: a wide nine all the way out there. Because what

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Speaker 1: does an edge player have to do in today's NFL?

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Speaker 1: You better be able to set that edge.

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Speaker 3: And remember thirty six sacks a year ago, eighteen of them.

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Speaker 3: Half those sacks walked out the door in JJ Watt

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Speaker 3: and Zach Allen. So what do you do as a

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, as a head coach to get to the quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Think about it. A year ago in Philadelphia, they led

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Speaker 3: the NFL and wasn't even close with seventy sacks, fifteen

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Speaker 3: more than any other team, And by their own admission,

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Speaker 3: we didn't blitz, we didn't have to. Could be quite

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Speaker 3: the opposite this year for the Cardinals. So if it's

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Speaker 3: adapt or die, how different is the defensive philosophy going to.

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Speaker 1: Be this year?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely. Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: They're going to run what they need to do to

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Speaker 1: win games, or try to win games, or be successful

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Speaker 1: on the offensive or defensive side of the ball. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be fascinating to watch Paul.

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Speaker 3: And then there's a cornerback room, and there was another

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Speaker 3: signing today and there's been multiple signings in the last

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Speaker 3: week or so. They're trying to bolster the depth in

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Speaker 3: the cornerback room right now, Marco Wilson, Antonio Hamilton, the

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Speaker 3: rookie Key Troll Clark, who I think has shown well

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Speaker 3: so far. That's the land of opportunity right now. If

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Speaker 3: I'm a player trying to make this team, is the

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Speaker 3: cornerback position group honestly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Now runner back in the defensive line. Yeah, those

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Speaker 1: those two rooms right now have at it. That's great, though.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of competition at

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Speaker 1: a lot of positions. We might even be surprised at

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Speaker 1: some of the positions.

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Speaker 3: And going full circle on Zamon Collins, I'll just end

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Speaker 3: with this on Zavon now that he doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: do nearly as much thinking because he's not the Mike

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Speaker 3: linebacker and he's not responsible for all three levels of

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Speaker 3: the defense. You just unlock that athleticism on the edge.

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Speaker 3: Just go play, Go hunt the quarterback, go stop the

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Speaker 3: run go blow plays up and you can tell he's

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Speaker 3: already been freed. I have a sixteen year old and

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Speaker 3: got his braces off earlier this week. It's almost like

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Speaker 3: the braces have come off. Zamon Collins. He just feels

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Speaker 3: freed from all that.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's Bully.

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