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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, as we

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Speaker 2: are speaking to you on this Monday live on Fox

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Speaker 2: News and CNN. Rockets landing in Israel, as Hamas is

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Speaker 2: launching rockets into Israel, as Israel is launching their own

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Speaker 2: rockets into the Gaza Strip and beyond. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: is Bedlam and it is wild. We've already got the

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Speaker 2: first major land war in Europe since World War Two,

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Speaker 2: and now we have got the biggest war I think

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Speaker 2: it's fair to say in Israel in fifty years, the

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Speaker 2: biggest war in the Middle East. So contextualizing all of

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Speaker 2: this for you and Buck, you worked in intelligence services,

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Speaker 2: so you know this better than almost anyone out there

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Speaker 2: who is in the country right now. We were told

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Speaker 2: that the Biden administration would return normalcy to the country,

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Speaker 2: and you well remember Buck, how often during the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration we were all told, oh, World War three is

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Speaker 2: about to start. Now Trump did X or Trump did Y.

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Speaker 2: It's not coincidental. I don't think that we have war

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Speaker 2: in Europe and war in the Middle East both as

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is now in office. Weak men make hard times,

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Speaker 2: and we have a weak president regardless of what your

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why we have a war in Europe,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's why we have a war in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East right now, because we have failed to

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Speaker 2: project American vigor across the globe.

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Speaker 1: Well, one conflict breaking out, you would think you could say, okay, look,

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Speaker 1: it's for a president at some level, the luck of

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Speaker 1: the draw when you look at you politics, right, but

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Speaker 1: both of these conflicts now both Russia, Ukraine and now

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Speaker 1: this I understand there have been rocket barrages and this

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Speaker 1: isn't This isn't an area Israel and Gaza that don't

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Speaker 1: see their you know, fair share of violence unfortunately and conflict.

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Speaker 1: But this is an escalation beyond what we have seen

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Speaker 1: in the past. And for both of these things to

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Speaker 1: happen while Joe Biden as president, to think that that

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Speaker 1: would be coincidence would seem to me to indicate somebody's

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Speaker 1: desire to be some kind of coincidence. Theorists like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just just the way that things go. And you know,

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Speaker 1: one other thing that you're seeing Clay, you mentioned over

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Speaker 1: over at MSNBC. But given what we saw, and we

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Speaker 1: really saw it because of all the videos being shared

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Speaker 1: and everything that was going on, Given what we saw

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Speaker 1: in terms of the depravity of the violence and this

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Speaker 1: sadism that was on display from Hamas, that there are

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Speaker 1: this is not a surprise, unfortunately, but there are elements

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Speaker 1: of the American left who are still, even in that moment,

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Speaker 1: finding ways to show solidarity with the Palestinians. You may

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Speaker 1: have seen this thirty one. I think a professor George

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Speaker 1: of Princeton shared this out thirty one. Harvard organizations have

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Speaker 1: declared that the murders, rapes, kidnappings and other atrocities committed

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Speaker 1: by Hamas against innocent people are in no way the

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Speaker 1: fault of Hamas, but are the fault of Israel. And

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Speaker 1: he writes, something is deeply, deeply wrong in academia. It Clay,

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Speaker 1: it does remind me of I tell people this. You

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Speaker 1: right after nine eleven, like a week after nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: there's a flag burning at my campus. Yeah, at Amherst.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about this at Amherst, people and the whole

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Speaker 1: point of the flag burning deserve and understands was it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a oh, you know, we should avoid overreaction or interventionism.

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Speaker 1: It was we got what we should have gotten because

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Speaker 1: of our foreign policy. That's what those lunatics were saying

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Speaker 1: while people were bearing love ones. So the left is

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Speaker 1: still doing that here with Hamas. There's still that that

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Speaker 2: Look, unless in staff it can correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things buck New York City, there was

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Speaker 2: there who think that we're exaggerating, even Chuck Schumer felt

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Speaker 2: Democrat senator from New York, this is what was happening

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Speaker 1: You might have seen there was some sort of wave

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Speaker 1: until the resistance came in electrified hang gliders and took

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Speaker 1: But nobody had seeing this coming Hi everyone, I'm the

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Speaker 1: past any youth movement. Thank you long my Poston, thank

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Speaker 1: you ever being here for raising your voices to celebrate

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Speaker 1: the glorious victory of the resistance. I'm this is New

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Speaker 2: These are American citizens celebrating the murder. You heard them

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Speaker 2: specifically reference the rave. We played a clip for you

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Speaker 2: ear earlier. Hundreds of young, innocent people were slaughtered as

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Speaker 2: Gods yesterday in New York City. Buck, people showed up

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Speaker 2: And I would point out that's one two unless and

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Speaker 2: you guys can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe Barack Obama has put out a tweet yet about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he has said a word. You guys

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Speaker 2: can check and make sure. Since Saturday morning, when this

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Speaker 2: said a word about this. I've got my staff checking.

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Speaker 2: I was looking earlier today and there was nothing that

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Speaker 2: I had seen that's indicative Buck of what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That all the people at Harvard who signed on to

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Speaker 2: this thing. Oh the Israelis basically got what they deserve.

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Speaker 2: The whole process here. These are United States citizens. For

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Speaker 2: everyone to be quietly acquiescing to what's going on is

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Speaker 2: absolutely indefensible. Anyway, this is horrible, This is grotesque. This

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Speaker 2: is savagery being propagated upon completely innocent women and children.

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Speaker 2: It's not even buck like they just went after men.

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Speaker 2: They specifically targeted the elderly women and children.

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Speaker 1: Clay, they that you had that protester or activist or

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him speaking about a dance

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Speaker 1: party where terrorist militants showed up and were shooting people,

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Speaker 1: defenseless people at a dance party, you know, a rave

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Speaker 1: in the desert and making jokes about it. Now, you're

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Speaker 1: always going to find, unfortunately, lunatics who, in a time

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Speaker 1: of tremendous tragedy, upheaval and all the rest, will say

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Speaker 1: the worst possible things. But this runs deeper. The pro

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Speaker 1: Palestinian sentiment in America is very tied in with the left.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a deeply ingrained belief of the left,

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Speaker 1: and it relates to anti colonialism. It relates to their

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Speaker 1: obsession with fighting white supremacy right because effectively, the Palestinians are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who knows Israel knows there's actually a

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Speaker 1: lot of different ethnicities contained within the State of Israel,

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Speaker 1: but the Palestinians are considered the brown.

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Speaker 2: The minority group, priority, the oppressed the Israelis exactly, And

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Speaker 2: what you see is Americans trying to fit this David

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Speaker 1: You know, I worked for former Clinton Envoy Dennis Ross

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Speaker 1: doing basic fact checking stuff like that, but one of

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Speaker 1: the things that always came across was that Clay, the

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Speaker 1: Palestinians never missed an opportunity, to miss an opportunity. Every

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Speaker 1: chance that they're of a more lasting, better situation always

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Speaker 1: gets swatted away. And it's not the Israelis who swatted away,

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Speaker 1: it's a Palaestindians. By either demanding something like right return,

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Speaker 1: or really, I think ultimately you have a society, especially

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Speaker 1: when you look at Gaza, and I mean Hamas runs Gaza. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a terrorist state everybody. I mean when we talk.

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Speaker 1: That's why when you had MSNBC anchor on before saying oh,

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Speaker 1: well it's a place where two million people live their government.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's effectively like the Taliban running Afghanistan, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason he specifically said for that clip

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Speaker 1: Buck. You know this too. It doesn't get talked about

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Speaker 2: Their existential struggle in their mind is to wipe Israel

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Speaker 2: care of those kids is not highly This is not

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Speaker 2: a wealthy place, right, So their idea is we're going

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Speaker 2: to overpower You heard nine million Israelis in an earlier conversation.

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Speaker 2: Their ideas, we're going to have more kids to help

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Speaker 2: I one hundred percent support the First Amendment. But it's

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Speaker 2: important to understand that even in America, we have people

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Speaker 2: they will support I'm sure you saw buck some of

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Speaker 2: I mean are threats and nobody.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what you're getting to here, and we

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Speaker 1: deep seated and virulent anti Semitism that exists certainly in Gaza,

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Speaker 1: a This is a conflict that is pushed by hatred.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't just just there on a holiday holiday

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Speaker 1: but it's enough of the Gazins and certainly the leadership

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Speaker 1: And that's why the Israelis are so united in building

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Speaker 1: That's why they're so united in pushing for their security.

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Speaker 1: and the Israelies just decided enough and they wanted security.

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Speaker 1: And now I think they realize it's impossible to have

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Speaker 1: why this is going to be more of a CounterPunch

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Speaker 2: Like this, we still need to update you on American

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Speaker 1: R FK.

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Speaker 2: Junior has announced we'll do that at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: this hour. Also, we're going to be joined by Rand

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Speaker 2: and update. The numbers just keep getting worse. Now over

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Speaker 2: I'm actually and I wonder, Buck, are you surprised by

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Speaker 2: And we'll play the audio for you Momentarily. Nobody's paying

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Speaker 2: But before we do, are you surprised, Buck that he

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Speaker 1: If I were advising him, I would have said, this

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Speaker 2: I believe we have a couple of different cuts from

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Speaker 2: He's announcing that he's going to run as an independent.

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Speaker 1: And to you. Well, what does this mean for the election? Clay,

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Speaker 2: lead story would be probably the decision of who the

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House is going to be. Nobody cares

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden about who the Speaker of the

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Speaker 2: House is going to be. And secondarily that our lead

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Speaker 2: story would be RFK Junior. And then Saturday, early morning

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Speaker 2: in the United States, we have the slaughter of tons

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Speaker 2: of innocence. They're now saying, Buck, over nine hundred dead,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty bodies found at a freaking music

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Speaker 2: festival where they were slaughtered by barbarian terrorists.

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Speaker 1: And that's the story, right.

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Speaker 2: So as we sit here thirteen months out, and by

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Speaker 2: the way, even as we get closer in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: as you well know, up until March, everybody thought that

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Speaker 2: the story that COVID was not even going to be

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Speaker 2: emerging as that primary story. So what happens between now

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Speaker 2: and then is so crazy. It's hard to even forecast

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Speaker 2: because there are so many unknowns.

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying for a while. Man, a

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Speaker 1: lot can change, and this is why when we say

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Speaker 1: you know that there's indicators that Trump is likely to

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Speaker 1: be the Republican nominee, we don't know it hasn't happened yet,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of things can still happen. You're starting

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Speaker 1: to see people be concerned about what oil prices are

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Speaker 1: going to do. Yeah, for some kind of a mid

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Speaker 1: East oil shock. Well, guess what, given the very high

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Speaker 1: debt levels that people have, household debt, mortgages, all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on right now, high interest rates, high

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Speaker 1: cost of living, people unable to afford things, putting more

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Speaker 1: and more on credit cards, you get an oil shock.

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Speaker 1: You throw that into the mix as well, and guess

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Speaker 1: what you could have the beginning of a recession. And

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Speaker 1: what does that do to the political landscape, not just

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Speaker 1: for the Republican primary, but well, i'm sorry, the general election,

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Speaker 1: both of them, but for down ballot races as well

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Speaker 1: as well. So it's a long race, friends, right, Clay,

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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. It is a long race, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And in the short term, trying to analyze all of

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Speaker 2: this is crazy because Buck, here's the here's the one

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Speaker 2: thing I would say, I still feel like, unfortunately, given

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Speaker 2: the ages of both Trump and Biden. You have to

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Speaker 2: seriously analyze. At any point something bad could happen.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 2: Look, I didn't even tell you this. I got a

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Speaker 2: text just a few minutes ago. My dad is seventy nine,

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Speaker 2: or he's gonna be seventy nine in a week. He

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Speaker 2: just went to the emergency room. He's it looks like

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be okay. But I mean, and so I've

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Speaker 2: been texting with my mom to try to figure out

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Speaker 2: how that's gonna be. As everybody out there knows, health

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Speaker 2: conditions when you are in your upper seventies can come

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Speaker 2: out of nowhere. He suddenly got ill and my mom

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Speaker 2: had to take him in and they're looking at him

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Speaker 2: and she thinks everything's gonna be okay. But he had

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Speaker 2: a fever, He had all sorts of things that suddenly emerged.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: When you're seventy five or seventy nine or eighty, these

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Speaker 2: things happen and they come out of nowhere. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just I feel bad for our country in many

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Speaker 2: ways that there are so many things going so awful

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: And I feel that, and I know you do. Two buck.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere I go, there's just so many people who say

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Speaker 2: this is not what America should be. And everywhere you look,

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Speaker 2: bad things are happening. And I feel like much of

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Speaker 2: the news that we're going to get over the next

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Speaker 2: thirteen months, unfortunately, is not going to be positive. That's

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Speaker 2: just the vibe that I have, and I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of you feel it as well.

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Speaker 1: to Climbuck podcast. Anytime. We've got Joe who writes in Buck,

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Speaker 1: we always here the level of chatter goes up greatly

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Speaker 1: just prior to a terrorist attack. That's a form of intel.

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Speaker 1: You mean to tell me the NSA didn't detect that

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Speaker 1: and then react accordingly. No way, I'll believe that. Well, Joe.

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Speaker 1: One of the problems with chatter is there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of it, and elevated chatter does coincide with an attack,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes elevated chatter is just that it can even

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Speaker 1: be meant to throw people off to some other operation. Look,

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Speaker 1: the US ability to understand what's going on in Gaza

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Speaker 1: is a fraction of what the Israeli capabilities are. The

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Speaker 1: Israelis have, whether you're talking about the Mossad or shin

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Speaker 1: Bet or domestic intelligence service, the Israelis have some of

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Speaker 1: the most elite units that are specifically designed and trained

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Speaker 1: to do this kind of intelligence gathering, whether of talking

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Speaker 1: to the military side or the just more pure intel side.

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Speaker 1: So we don't know how this was missed. I do understand.

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Speaker 1: Also there's a little bit of a a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a sense of pushback from people Clay who are saying,

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Speaker 1: let's focus on defeating Hamas and then we can do

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Speaker 1: the you know, the after action of what what might

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Speaker 1: have been missed, what clues were missed in all of this.

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Speaker 1: There's time for that later. But I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I guess this guy is writing and he's saying, no way,

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Speaker 1: I'll believe the NSA didn't detect it. Trust me, I

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Speaker 1: worked with the CIA. There are a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that they miss. NSA, CIA big organizations play that are

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Speaker 1: covering a lot of ground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked to it, because this is, to me,

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Speaker 2: the integral question that is going to be asked in

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Speaker 2: the weeks and months ahead, whenever the immediate aftermath of

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Speaker 2: this response is over. The Wall Street Journal reported that

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Speaker 2: Iran playing this starting in August and that they signed off.

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Speaker 2: The Iranians did, and certainly they were negotiating with the

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Speaker 2: Biden administration to get these five hostages returned. We had

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Speaker 2: a prisoner exchange with them, and we gave Iran six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. Now they are saying, well, the six billion

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Speaker 2: dollars that we gave to Iran was limited to only

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Speaker 2: being used for humanitarian measures. But as you all know,

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Speaker 2: money is fungible, and so you don't say, let's say

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Speaker 2: you've got ten thousand dollars in your bank account, if

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Speaker 2: you have to spend five thousand dollars to fix your car.

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Speaker 2: You don't say to your family, to your wife or

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Speaker 2: your husband. When you sit down, you don't say, well,

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Speaker 2: this five thousand dollars only can go to this, and

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Speaker 2: this five thousand dollars is going to go to something else.

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Speaker 2: All of that money that you have is a part

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Speaker 2: of your budget. So if we gave Iran six billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: which we did, and they were budgeting this out that

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Speaker 2: allowed them to spend in theory six billion more dollars

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Speaker 2: to support terrorism than they might have otherwise been able

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Speaker 2: to do because they could allocate six billion somewhere else

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Speaker 2: because they knew this extra six billion was coming in.

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Speaker 2: So we got played in the Biden administration in a

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Speaker 2: big way. And I think certainly as a part of

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Speaker 2: those negotiations, Buck Iran was sending off the message which

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Speaker 2: we know because Jake Sullivan was on television ten days

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Speaker 2: ago saying, well, things are more stable in the Middle

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Speaker 2: East than they have been in twenty years. Well that's

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Speaker 2: something to remember, is that the Obama administration in the

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Speaker 2: second term, and if we think of Joe Biden as

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Speaker 2: Obama's third term, the Obama administration in its second term

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Speaker 2: effectively put all medies and I think you could argue

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Speaker 2: even national security considerations aside to get that really preposterously

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Speaker 2: weak JCPOA.

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Speaker 1: Deal done with the Iranian nuclear program. The Democrats are

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Speaker 1: deeply ideologically invested in taking a particularly pro Iranian point

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Speaker 1: of view when it comes to any negotiations with the US,

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Speaker 1: and I think Clay it's because the same way that

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Speaker 1: the left in this country almost idolizes the sacrifices and

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Speaker 1: oppression of Palestinians, as you know, as an oppressed people.

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Speaker 1: They think of Iran that way as well. The Theron's

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Speaker 1: a large and relatively wealthy country with eighty million people.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're going to give you the

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Speaker 1: absolute latest.

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Speaker 2: There are US hostages that Hamas currently has that they

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Speaker 2: are threatening to kill Biden.

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Speaker 1: White House has said nothing publicly about any of this.

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Speaker 1: That's a mess.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined in studio here in New

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Speaker 2: York by Senator Rand Paul in the next hour as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep updating you. Hang with us,