Speaker 1: Hey, Bestie's Today on the right side, we're popping off
Speaker 1: and sharing some Oscar predictions ahead of Hollywood's biggest night. Plus,
Speaker 1: we're taking you behind the scenes at these award shows
Speaker 1: with our award winning showrunner Tim Pallazola. And then we're
Speaker 1: diving into the surprising upside of having a nemesis. It's Friday,
Speaker 1: February twenty eighth. I'm Simone Boyce.
Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright side from
Speaker 2: Hello Sunshine, Danielle, Happy Friday, Happy Friday. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, but wait, I want to hear about
Speaker 1: your week. You attended the Time Magazine Women of the
Speaker 1: Year conference.
Speaker 2: Tell me everything. How was it? I did? It was
Speaker 2: really cool. So every year Time Magazine honors exceptional women
Speaker 2: across industries. This year the honoree was Nicole Kidman and
Speaker 2: so I got to see a live interview with her
Speaker 2: and Editor of Time, Lucy Feldman. They're really promoting gender
Speaker 2: equity across the board. They honored a Olympic gymnast Jordan Chiles,
Speaker 2: WNBA MVP Asia Wilson, activist Olivia Mon who's also an actress,
Speaker 2: and then Giselle Pellico, who courageously brought attention to the
Speaker 2: issues of sexual violence in France. It was, you know what,
Speaker 2: it's like so fun to be in a room full
Speaker 2: of women that have that kind of energy. Everybody's pushing
Speaker 2: for good, like they're all trying to make the world
Speaker 2: a better place. And so it's fun to be at
Speaker 2: a table and meet new people because people come from
Speaker 2: all over the country. So it was it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: And I also I remember moving from Chicago and never
Speaker 2: being invited to any room, Like I remember that so
Speaker 2: distinctly because I didn't know anybody, and so it's never
Speaker 2: lost on me when I'm invited into a room like that,
Speaker 2: Like I'm always so grateful. You know, yeah, that's really special.
Speaker 2: I heard that you have a pretty fun weekend. I
Speaker 2: had a good week. You have a great weekend coming.
Speaker 1: Yes, surprise, surprise, Simone's going on another girl's trip where
Speaker 1: this time we're going to be in La Joya. But
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about the house that we got. I
Speaker 1: booked the house this time. It has a water slide.
Speaker 1: It has a hot tub, a pool, outdoor kitchen.
Speaker 2: So wait, it has a water slide. Yes, it has
Speaker 2: a water slide. Here I'll show you a picture. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can see, but Okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: It has a fire pit. I love a fire pit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is this with the same college crew or is this
Speaker 3: a different crew?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is my college crew. Wait, why are you
Speaker 2: guys going on back to back trips?
Speaker 1: Okay, so the larger like group of girls is like,
Speaker 1: there's about twenty of us, right, but there are different
Speaker 1: sort of groups within. You know how like over over
Speaker 1: the course of a couple of decades you're dynamic with
Speaker 1: people change and some people get a little bit closer
Speaker 1: than others, and so the groups kind of shift. And
Speaker 1: so ye, we tend to take like smaller group chips
Speaker 1: in addition to like all meeting up and doing like
Speaker 1: a bigger girls trip. But there is this idea that
Speaker 1: I like to think my friend or this trend that
Speaker 1: I like to think my friends have started, which is
Speaker 1: bringing your girlfriends on a baby moon. So this is
Speaker 1: my second girlfriend baby moon of the year.
Speaker 2: Cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my girlfriend Kaylie is pregnant and she just
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of like celebrate with her closest girlfriends.
Speaker 2: So let's have them be our guests on the show.
Speaker 2: We can bab Actually, that would be great. That would
Speaker 2: be a super entertaining episode and we probably wouldn't be
Speaker 2: able to air any of it, honestly. Well, are you
Speaker 2: ready to pop off today? Oh? Yes, let's go.
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all, This Sunday is the ninety seventh Academy Awards.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of little gold men. Okay, we have
Speaker 1: been hyping up our favorite movies all Award Season and
Speaker 1: the substance Wicket Anora, But now it's time for our
Speaker 1: first ever bright Side Awards predictions and joining us to
Speaker 1: dish on all things Awards show season is our Emmy
Speaker 1: winning show runner Brightside bestie, Tim Palizola. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the bright Side.
Speaker 4: Tim, Hello, Hello, Hello, I think I'm going to crash
Speaker 4: your girls trip.
Speaker 5: You should, I mean water slide.
Speaker 4: You make everything more, some refreshments, I'll make some cookies.
Speaker 5: I'll be there.
Speaker 1: I think that sounds great. You can be our lavender
Speaker 1: husband for the po I.
Speaker 4: Am a lavender husband in many situations, so this feels
Speaker 4: like the right compliment.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we want to talk Award season and specifically
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards, but we thought it would be fun
Speaker 1: to pull back the curtain a little bit. I've worked
Speaker 1: red carpets at award shows for many many years now. Danielle,
Speaker 1: I know you have two and Tim. You are an
Speaker 1: Emmy winner. I am a three time Emmy loser. So
Speaker 1: we want to hear from.
Speaker 2: You on this.
Speaker 1: You've been to several award shows, you know what it's
Speaker 1: like to actually walk away with a statue. Just describe,
Speaker 1: like what this night is like beyond what we see
Speaker 1: on TV.
Speaker 5: Honestly, these award shows are magical.
Speaker 4: I've had the pleasure of attending the Emmys, which is
Speaker 4: TV's biggest night in Hollywood, where the Academy Awards are
Speaker 4: films biggest night in Hollywood. And I want to say
Speaker 4: I have had the pleasure of winning, but I've also
Speaker 4: lost many times. So just to set the record straight,
Speaker 4: but they really are a magical, magical experience. And I
Speaker 4: will say the first time that I won, it felt
Speaker 4: less about that night and it felt more about the
Speaker 4: accumulation of all the long hours that you put in,
Speaker 4: all of the late nights, all the dreams, and it's
Speaker 4: those moments where when you're a little kid you dream
Speaker 4: about working in Hollywood and you see the stars on
Speaker 4: the red Carpets and to be there in person feels
Speaker 4: like this magical wish fulfillment of being a child. And
Speaker 4: you all have been to these award shows, I will
Speaker 4: say the Red Carpets in particular are the most incredible.
Speaker 4: And when you're a nominee, you enter through through a
Speaker 4: certain line that takes you down the Red Carpets and
Speaker 4: as you walk by, it is just one press outlet
Speaker 4: after another. The lights are big, and you're also walking
Speaker 4: in with all of the stars. It's amazing because you're
Speaker 4: walking down the island, you bump into like Missus Waterford
Speaker 4: from The Handmaid's Town.
Speaker 5: You're like, Hi, how are you? Or you know.
Speaker 4: One one Red carpet in particular, Molly Shannon was standing
Speaker 4: there and I'm just like the hugest Molly Shannon fan
Speaker 4: in the entire world, and she was standing there and
Speaker 4: she was going should I stand like this with my
Speaker 4: hand on my hip or should I put my hand
Speaker 4: to my side. You just feel the energy of the
Speaker 4: stars and you see they're just as nervous as you are.
Speaker 4: You see, they're just like real people, and there's just
Speaker 4: a spirit of celebration, which is so fucking cool. To
Speaker 4: be honest, yeah, and I will tell you the first
Speaker 4: time that that we won.
Speaker 5: I won four.
Speaker 4: I was an executive producer of a show called RuPaul's
Speaker 4: Drag Race, and we won a.
Speaker 2: Show called RuPaul's Drag Race. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have ever heard of it.
Speaker 5: A little show.
Speaker 2: It's only it's only like a very significant culture. It's
Speaker 2: the only.
Speaker 3: One the Emmy every year for twenty.
Speaker 5: Years, yes, until the Traders.
Speaker 4: But you go up and it's so surreal because you're
Speaker 4: standing on stage and you're looking out at the audience
Speaker 4: and you're looking at all of the biggest celebs in television,
Speaker 4: and they're clapping, and they're not cheer for me necessarily,
Speaker 4: but they're cheering in general.
Speaker 5: And it's say they were cheering for you, cheering for me.
Speaker 4: And then they take you backstage and you get the
Speaker 4: trophy and then you get to carry it around with
Speaker 4: you all night.
Speaker 2: Is it heavy?
Speaker 5: It's heavy. It's pretty heavy.
Speaker 2: My favorite interviews are the interviews that take place backstage,
Speaker 2: because you capture people in this moment of jubilation.
Speaker 1: It's right after they've won. There's this electric energy in
Speaker 1: the air. I love seeing that, and I think it's
Speaker 1: been really interesting to see like social media videos of
Speaker 1: Red carpet reporters now compared to when I was a
Speaker 1: Red carpet reporter, because I feel like people are getting
Speaker 1: to see a bit more of the environment and what
Speaker 1: it's actually like. It is so chaotic and crampy.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, what is it like for you on
Speaker 5: the red carpet?
Speaker 2: It's no one ever told me that I was in
Speaker 2: heels all the time and my feet were a mess.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to.
Speaker 1: Brand or sandals, yes, spring you have to bring snacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're basically like penned in for like any
Speaker 1: from four to six hours. That's on the conservative side.
Speaker 1: Sometimes for bigger award shows or the met gala is
Speaker 1: the one that's like you are in there for like
Speaker 1: almost eight hours and it's so tight.
Speaker 2: Nobody tells you.
Speaker 1: It's like a combat sport, Like you have to fight
Speaker 1: for your moment with the star.
Speaker 2: You have to like, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 1: Shove your mic in there, and like because a lot
Speaker 1: of times the stars will kind of like group a
Speaker 1: bunch of press outlets together and they'll speak to like
Speaker 1: several at a time. So you got to like fight
Speaker 1: for it and you got to shout your question. You've
Speaker 1: got to know what you're gonna say. I actually love it.
Speaker 1: I love the thrill of it, and I love the
Speaker 1: adrenaline rush. But I think it takes a while, at
Speaker 1: least for me personally, it took a while to get
Speaker 1: accustomed to how aggressive it is.
Speaker 4: Sure, were you prepped with questions? Are you just coming
Speaker 4: up with stuff in the moment?
Speaker 2: Oh no, heavily prepped.
Speaker 5: Heavily prepped. Yeah, always, heavily heavily prepped. Okay.
Speaker 2: But I think that there's this like competitive animal that
Speaker 2: comes out in you, okay, because you are beholden to
Speaker 2: the company you work for and they don't care that you, Like,
Speaker 2: nobody was giving you the interview. They're just like, get
Speaker 2: the interview, interview. So you are like doing whatever you
Speaker 2: can do. You're cracking jokes, you're screaming crazy things. I
Speaker 2: learned from this woman years ago. If you say, can
Speaker 2: I ask you a quick question? Or do you have
Speaker 2: a minute, you've already lost. You don't have time. You
Speaker 2: have to scream the question. It's crazy. It's a combat sport.
Speaker 4: That's our experiences that Red Carverets are very different because
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm just like walking around, who's that
Speaker 4: that's amazing? Oh hey you and you're like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: will say. What I love about is all the celebs
Speaker 4: are so incredibly friendly too. My mom has so many
Speaker 4: pictures with some of her favorite stars, so it was
Speaker 4: just the friendliest. Connie Britton honestly was really lovely. Tony
Speaker 4: Shaloub was lovely. I mean, I have a gazillion little
Speaker 4: fun anecdotal stories of bumping into John Ham backstage, or
Speaker 4: standing next to John Oliver, or you know, talking to
Speaker 4: Jeff Probes, or walking into a party holding a statue
Speaker 4: and Adam Sandler says, hey, good job kids, Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm going to a Netflix party and being in a
Speaker 4: dance circle with the cast of Squid Game. So it's
Speaker 4: just it's a it's a really fantastical experience.
Speaker 2: I went to the Emmys when I was twelve, Okay, And.
Speaker 5: How did you get to the Emmys when you were twelve?
Speaker 2: It's a weird story. My best friend from growing up,
Speaker 2: her dad was like in some he like helped produce
Speaker 2: a film, and so he had three girls and each
Speaker 2: girl was allowed to invite one friend and all of
Speaker 2: us went to the Emmys. It was super fun gosh.
Speaker 2: So it was all of her sister and I loved
Speaker 2: her older sisters. I thought they were so cool. But
Speaker 2: I go to the Emmys. I wore my butt Mitzvah dress. Okay,
Speaker 2: I go to them and this is before iPhones a thing.
Speaker 2: So there were no camera phones and they wouldn't allow
Speaker 2: you to bring cameras in sure, so we hadn't gotten
Speaker 2: our periods yet. But we took tampon boxes, emptied them,
Speaker 2: put a disposable camera in the tampon box, put it
Speaker 2: in our purse. We were on. We were like, you said,
Speaker 2: you have to enter the red carpet like at like
Speaker 2: ten am when you're not famous. So we're on the
Speaker 2: red carpet waiting there for hours and the sun is
Speaker 2: beating down on us and all of a sudden, this
Speaker 2: was like when the Emmys was a moment like Meryl Streep,
Speaker 2: al Pacino, Brad Pitt, I have the funniest selfies. Think
Speaker 2: about a disposable camera selfie, like al Pacino's face is crooked.
Speaker 2: Meryl Streep was like like, I have the funniest selfies
Speaker 2: with them, and they were all so kind except for
Speaker 2: one person. H person, You're it's so funny, Al Pacino
Speaker 2: incredibly kind, Meryl Streep so kind, Brad Pitt beyond kind.
Speaker 2: The one person that was so mean to two little girls,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. What did he say? He was like, get
Speaker 2: out of my face, kid. He was so not about it.
Speaker 2: Everyone else was so nice. Wow.
Speaker 4: Not surprised and also hugely surprised. I said you would
Speaker 4: be two twelve year old girls.
Speaker 2: On that note, I know we're going to take a
Speaker 2: quick break from popping off, but we'll be right back.
Speaker 3: We're back to popping off with Tim Paalazola.
Speaker 2: Well. In terms of predictions, Best Picture is one of
Speaker 2: the biggest awards at the night, and this prediction surprises me.
Speaker 2: Variety and Vanity Fair are predicting that Anora will win
Speaker 2: Best Picture. Smone, I know you said that was your
Speaker 2: favorite movie of the year. You're probably not shocked by this.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit shocked. I love Anora, a huge fan.
Speaker 2: I would be so happy if it won. I think
Speaker 2: it's so deserving. But I actually think a sleeper contender
Speaker 2: is Conclave.
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 1: This one stars Stanley Tucci, Ray Fines, John Lithgow, and
Speaker 1: it's this intriguing look at the political machinations of the
Speaker 1: highest levels of the Catholic Church. This is one to
Speaker 1: look out for.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: A lot of the critics and experts are predicting that
Speaker 1: this one could actually pull off a surprise and walk
Speaker 1: away with the Best Picture prize.
Speaker 5: That's I thought you were going to be on the
Speaker 5: Wicked train.
Speaker 1: Traditionally, musicals have not performed well in that category, so
Speaker 1: I my money is not on Wicked, although I'm like
Speaker 1: the biggest Wicked fan ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was gonna say, I'm with Danielle. I
Speaker 4: think Anor surprises me. I love that movie so much,
Speaker 4: but I don't think it has gotten the attention that
Speaker 4: some of the other movies have gotten. The Oscar campaign
Speaker 4: for it hasn't been as robust as we've seen for
Speaker 4: Wicked or a Complete Unknown, or even The Brutalist.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll be that's my prediction.
Speaker 5: I you think the Brutalist.
Speaker 2: I loved the Brutalist. My two favorites aside from Wicked,
Speaker 2: which I don't think will win, was The Substance and
Speaker 2: the Brutalist. But I think the Brutalist is probably more
Speaker 2: of a contender for the Oscar.
Speaker 5: I think so too.
Speaker 1: Okay, in terms of Best Actress. I mean, Demi Moore
Speaker 1: has been on a roll. She seems to have the
Speaker 1: lead going into this weekend for the Substance. Honestly, if
Speaker 1: that's what happens, so happy for because the movie was incredible.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a legendary kind of revolutionary film.
Speaker 1: Loved her performance. You took home the Golden Globe and
Speaker 1: SAG Awards for this role. But you know, Cynthia Rivo
Speaker 1: has also been getting a lot of attention for her
Speaker 1: performance in Wicked. I think if i'm if I'm thinking
Speaker 1: like the Academy voters, I think what they're going to
Speaker 1: do is give it to Demi Moore because she's a
Speaker 1: more mature actress who's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: Opportunities like this, like a role like this, don't necessarily
Speaker 1: come along all the time, and so I think they're
Speaker 1: going to give it to her because of that. And
Speaker 1: I think their perspective will be like, oh, Cynthia Rivo,
Speaker 1: obviously she's this megawatt talent. She's going to have plenty
Speaker 1: of other opportunities to get her egot, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think?
Speaker 4: I agree with you one thousand percent. I think this
Speaker 4: is Demi Moore's year in particular, and I with regarding
Speaker 4: Cynthia Rievo building on that, I think Wicked might not
Speaker 4: win a lot this go around, but the Sea was
Speaker 4: coming out next year, and I have a feeling Wicked
Speaker 4: Part two is probably going to do even better. It's
Speaker 4: going to probably do better at the Academy Awards, because
Speaker 4: you see that too with television shows, like the last
Speaker 4: season of a show, that's when some of them really
Speaker 4: tend to peak, because that's the end and it feels
Speaker 4: like a celebratory thing.
Speaker 1: I just really want Cynthia to be recognized for her
Speaker 1: athleticism in this role, like the fact that she was
Speaker 1: doing her own stunts. She was flying through a dang
Speaker 1: harness and she was belting out defining gravity at the
Speaker 1: top of her lungs, Like there are very few people
Speaker 1: dead or alive who are capable of pulling that off. Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: like Whitney, Houston is probably the only other person that
Speaker 1: I could think of who could say that and do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Pink and do it as well, But I don't know
Speaker 1: if Pink's vocals are.
Speaker 4: Quite but she does stunts. Yeah, Yeah, her performance was amazing,
Speaker 4: and I just blown away. Just the hype of seeing
Speaker 4: a part two of that that's going to blow us
Speaker 4: all away.
Speaker 2: What do you guys think In terms of Best Actor?
Speaker 2: This one, to me is a really competitive category because
Speaker 2: Adrian Brody took home the Golden Globe for the Brutalist
Speaker 2: and Timothy shallo May won at the SAG Awards. Usually
Speaker 2: it's like a clean sweep all around, so it feels
Speaker 2: sort of split. I don't know who's going to take this.
Speaker 5: I don't know who's going to take this either.
Speaker 4: There's also been a little bit of controversy regarding Adrian
Speaker 4: Brodie's performance right because they used AI to really enhance
Speaker 4: his access, his accent exactly. So I wonder if people
Speaker 4: are thinking about that at all. I have not seen
Speaker 4: a complete unknown yet. I've heard Timothy shalame is amazing.
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of the performances. I thought Adrian
Speaker 4: Brody was amazing, but Timothy Shallamey has just gotten a
Speaker 4: lot of momentum and he feels like he's just a
Speaker 4: Hollywood darling at this point.
Speaker 1: Well, his speech at the SAG Awards, I think endeared
Speaker 1: him to a lot of voters. I'm curious if that
Speaker 1: would factor into their decision because he was so earnest
Speaker 1: about like how much time he put into this project
Speaker 1: and how proud he was of his accomplishments and the
Speaker 1: whole cast. That's not something that people say every day
Speaker 1: in their speeches, and I wonder if that has the
Speaker 1: potential to persuade Academy voters.
Speaker 4: I think so too, because it's also they were supposed
Speaker 4: to do this movie in twenty twenty, and so he
Speaker 4: thought he was going to have six months to a
Speaker 4: year to prepare for it, but he ended up having
Speaker 4: four years to prepare. So that's where he really during
Speaker 4: that time learned how to play the guitar, really fine
Speaker 4: tune all of his singing. So he really immersed himself
Speaker 4: in this role. But I'd be happy to see him
Speaker 4: win this.
Speaker 5: He's so lovely.
Speaker 4: I met him at a Critics' Choice Awards years ago,
Speaker 4: was right after Calling Me by your Name came out,
Speaker 4: and he was so relatively innocent and young at that time.
Speaker 4: And you know, during the commercial breaks, lots of times
Speaker 4: people will get up and want to get pictures with people,
Speaker 4: and I was just like, I'm going to go get
Speaker 4: a and he was a relatively I have the photo.
Speaker 5: I do have a photo. I'll show it to you.
Speaker 5: Pardon the pun.
Speaker 4: He was a little bit of and a complete unknown
Speaker 4: at that time, and I walked up and asked him
Speaker 4: for He was like really sure, of course, and like
Speaker 4: we chatted for a little bit. So he's lovely and
Speaker 4: everything he does, he really exceeds our expectations for a
Speaker 4: young actor in Hollywood.
Speaker 5: I'd be thrilled to see him get this.
Speaker 1: Wait, can I talk about the Critics' Choice Awards for
Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, that is the quirkiest of all your wartshops.
Speaker 1: So what you just described tim the part during the
Speaker 1: commercial breaks where all the journalists get up and try
Speaker 1: to get pictures. Yes, I attended once, and it's probably
Speaker 1: the last time Ela watch because it's so weird. They
Speaker 1: all get up from their seats and it's like a
Speaker 1: feeding frenzy and they rush over and they, like all
Speaker 1: the reporters from all these different outlets like basically accost
Speaker 1: the stars and ask for photos. And I saw it
Speaker 1: happening and I'm just like, oh my gosh, this is insane.
Speaker 4: It's insane, and it's not auditorium seating. It's like the
Speaker 4: Golden Globes where people are sitting at tables so you
Speaker 4: can have rat bake with tables, baker table, so you
Speaker 4: can have access to just about anybody.
Speaker 2: It's wild, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised there's not more secure thing.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's time for another short break. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: with Tim Pellazola. And we're back with Tim Pelazola. As
Speaker 1: the competition heats up with the Oscars, it seems that competition,
Speaker 1: specifically having a rival in real life, might actually be
Speaker 1: good for your health. We recently came across this article
Speaker 1: in the New York Times. It's called why You Too
Speaker 1: Need a nemesis, and this writer suggests that having a
Speaker 1: nemesis may actually motivate you and help you realize your dreams.
Speaker 1: So it's not telling us to be in this full
Speaker 1: on fight with someone, but it's just saying that it
Speaker 1: can be healthy to fantasize about edging out your competition.
Speaker 1: And this writer goes on to talk about the power
Speaker 1: of a grudge actually and even cites research by a
Speaker 1: professor at U Penn that shows that an underdog performs
Speaker 1: better because they want to prove people wrong. Here's a
Speaker 1: direct quote from the article, just to illustrate the point.
Speaker 1: She says, many successful people understand the power of a grudge. Athletes,
Speaker 1: pop stars, your mother in law, our president. Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to hear everyone's hot takes on this. Do you
Speaker 1: think the power of the nemesis is real?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 4: But I also when Simone said the word grudge, I
Speaker 4: heard you chuckle a little bit.
Speaker 5: What was that about?
Speaker 2: You were very perceptive. I have a grudge. Ooh, I
Speaker 2: have a big grudge. And I have to tell you
Speaker 2: I didn't have a grudge for a while. I had
Speaker 2: a grudge when I was younger. Okay, I had an
Speaker 2: arch nemesis she didn't know, okay, and it helped me.
Speaker 2: And then I let it go and I felt a
Speaker 2: little bored. And I have a new grudge ooo. And
Speaker 2: let me tell you, there is a battery in my back.
Speaker 2: So I agree with this author, and actually, Eve the
Speaker 2: Rapper has said the same thing, no kidding, she feels
Speaker 2: the same way. I think of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson,
Speaker 2: Like you know, at the at the time, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure either of them would have been the basketball players
Speaker 2: they were had they not had the grudge against each other.
Speaker 4: And I don't want to ask you to name names yeah,
Speaker 4: but if you were to tell me who this grudge
Speaker 4: is as an ARC type or what what part of
Speaker 4: your life is this grudge?
Speaker 2: That's a great question. It is a work grudge, a
Speaker 2: work grudge, Okay, it's not a personal grudge. Is it
Speaker 2: like someone who like wronged you and you you're like
Speaker 2: out for I don't know.
Speaker 5: Or did someone's career.
Speaker 4: You're sort of tracking and you go, Okay.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, there was this girl whose career
Speaker 2: I was tracking, and then she imploded her own career,
Speaker 2: and so I gave up the grudge because I had
Speaker 2: not there was no grudge to be had.
Speaker 5: You sabotaged?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I did feel that way a little bit.
Speaker 3: No, But now it's not that somebody wronged me.
Speaker 5: Ooh nice, I like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, they'll never know either, right, so they don't
Speaker 2: They don't have any idea of what they did. I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 4: And are you are you still in touch with this
Speaker 4: person on the regular or is this a distant person?
Speaker 2: I'm in touch with this person? Oh wow, wait, that
Speaker 2: makes it even spicier. Yeah, it's why not just like,
Speaker 2: why not just like air it out and talk to
Speaker 2: them about it? Then it's not a grudge. I need it.
Speaker 2: I need my back.
Speaker 4: Do you have any grudges, Simone, or do you have
Speaker 4: any No?
Speaker 2: No, I definitely did.
Speaker 1: I definitely used to like compare myself to people when
Speaker 1: I was coming up in my twenties. But I just
Speaker 1: find that I think everyone's different, right, Like I think
Speaker 1: we can all find motivation from different places. For me,
Speaker 1: comparison is the thief of joy, and I just put
Speaker 1: my blinders up and like, I don't even like entertaining
Speaker 1: the idea of like comparing myself for competing with one person.
Speaker 1: I like to compete with myself. That's that's why I'm
Speaker 1: in competition with Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like that I couldn't relate starting out, I felt
Speaker 4: like I was comparing myself to others yeah, a lot,
Speaker 4: And as you get further along in your career, I
Speaker 4: just had to let that go. But I will say
Speaker 4: the one place that I think having a nemesis is
Speaker 4: really great for me is when I'm at the gym
Speaker 4: or when I'm in a workout class. If I see
Speaker 4: someone who looks really fit, or who's liftings something heavier
Speaker 4: or is doing more pushups, that really energizes and motivates
Speaker 4: me to want to I love that so much.
Speaker 2: But at the gym, I refuse to be less strong
Speaker 2: than a man at the gym, and so I hold
Speaker 2: a grudge also. And if like a man is running
Speaker 2: faster than me, forget it. If there's another woman, I'm good.
Speaker 2: If it's a man, I'm going to try and live
Speaker 2: to heavy.
Speaker 4: I hadn't really thought about the gender. I think, regardless
Speaker 4: of male female. If someone was killing it, yeah, to me,
Speaker 4: it's really motivating. I'm like, oh, well, if this person's
Speaker 4: doing it, then I can do it. And obviously if
Speaker 4: I can get a little bit.
Speaker 2: Faster, I agree. I don't find grudges to be about comparison. Actually,
Speaker 2: I think they're different than that.
Speaker 5: Hold on, tell me more about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how so, Yeah, to me, an immature grudge could
Speaker 2: be about comparison. Okay, A mature grudge is someone has
Speaker 2: wronged you. I'm not comparing myself to that.
Speaker 5: Someone's wrong period period. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: On the subject of Jim grudges, I still hold a
Speaker 2: grudge against the man who tried to correct my form
Speaker 2: one time at the job. I'll never forgive him for that.
Speaker 5: Was he right round? Was he trying to be helpful.
Speaker 1: He was right and trying to be helpful, but I
Speaker 1: just think it's I think unsolicited advice. Yeah, unless it's
Speaker 1: among the closest of friends is just inappropriate. I didn't
Speaker 1: ask you, dude, okay, and more than likely you were
Speaker 1: trying to hit on me, so like, just keep it moving, Okay.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I was thinking. Like someone was either
Speaker 4: trying to come over and man explain you. Yes, yes, right,
Speaker 4: or that.
Speaker 2: Is grudge worthy. Yes, is justified cause of a grudge.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about baby names. Do you have
Speaker 2: You don't want kids? Right?
Speaker 5: I think the time is not no go?
Speaker 2: Did you ever want them?
Speaker 5: I thought I would always have kids.
Speaker 2: Did you have a list of baby names?
Speaker 5: I do have a list of baby names.
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 5: I want to be prepared.
Speaker 3: I also have a list of you okay, yeah, they're
Speaker 3: in my notes.
Speaker 5: Okay. And you want kids? Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Did you have a list before you had kids? Simone
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: I only started making a list like as we were
Speaker 1: actually like trying to conceive, and like when I got
Speaker 1: pregnant and we started to make a list.
Speaker 2: So lists of baby names make me lol, because everybody
Speaker 2: is willing to share everything in life almost nowadays, except
Speaker 2: for their list of baby names. It is the one
Speaker 2: thing that even your best friend in the world is
Speaker 2: going to keep a secret from you. Yes, because they
Speaker 2: don't want you to take the baby name. Oh and
Speaker 2: they don't want you to know about it before the
Speaker 2: baby is born. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've experienced not wanting them not wanting you to know
Speaker 4: because they didn't. They just don't want your opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I haven't heard of the stealing. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, my best friend from growing up has two girls,
Speaker 2: so she had kids way ahead of me, and she
Speaker 2: was really struggling with names. And she kept being like, Danielle,
Speaker 2: what do you think give me some names. You're good
Speaker 2: at names. And in my mind, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 2: give you mine.
Speaker 5: Isn't this a storyline on friends?
Speaker 2: You should give her your reject names.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did, and then I pulled My aunt is good
Speaker 2: at names, So I pulled her and I said, these
Speaker 2: are what my aunt Michelle thinks you should name your baby.
Speaker 2: It was like Gertrude and Agnes and it was all
Speaker 2: really bad names, wasn't it. No, they were good. They
Speaker 2: were like Gemma. They were cool. My aunt's into one
Speaker 2: syllable name. She doesn't like nicknames I do. I ended
Speaker 2: up giving my friend Sasha one of her baby names,
Speaker 2: so I did help. That's but the Today Show made
Speaker 2: a list and they said, the trendy new thing to
Speaker 2: do is use last names as first names. So so cool,
Speaker 2: this is so you think.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think as well. I love it, Okay.
Speaker 3: Examples Cooper Hendrix, Shepherd.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, neighbor, I want to be a Hendrix, Like,
Speaker 1: that's so cool.
Speaker 5: I think that's fun too. Really, yeah, I think that's really.
Speaker 2: Fun when living pop stardom, Yeah, it is pop stardom.
Speaker 2: When I was growing up, the trend was to give
Speaker 2: girls quintessential boy names, so like Jordan or Blake.
Speaker 5: Taylor Brett.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I think it's gone. A lot of
Speaker 2: people use the women use their maiden names yes as
Speaker 2: the kids' names, which is kind of a last name thing.
Speaker 2: I think I came up in the Jenna era. My
Speaker 2: school was run and mock with.
Speaker 4: Jenna's, Jennifer's, Jessica's, Yes, Lindsay's, Jamie's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Jay's. The Social Security Administration always
Speaker 2: publishes the list of most popular names. Do I read
Speaker 2: these every single year? I love it me too. So
Speaker 2: here's the most recent list. So the top male names
Speaker 2: were Liam, Noah, and Oliver, and the top female names
Speaker 2: were Oliver, Emma, and Charlotte.
Speaker 4: Ooh, I feel like Sophia was at the top for
Speaker 4: a minute. It was maybe Charlotte bumped Sophia off the top.
Speaker 2: Well. There was also this trend where elderly women's names
Speaker 2: became popular again.
Speaker 3: Yes, like Gertrude, it's Charlotte.
Speaker 2: You've got a Debbie.
Speaker 5: If that's my mom? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you know how you were named? Why are you
Speaker 2: a tim?
Speaker 5: I think they just liked that name. There's no real significance.
Speaker 2: How about you, Simon, I was named after Nina Simone.
Speaker 5: Oh that's you know that a last name?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 1: So your mom was on trend. My mom was a Francophile,
Speaker 1: or still is a Francophile. She's obsessed with everything French,
Speaker 1: so I think she just liked the sound of a
Speaker 1: French sounding name. But little did she know that Starbucks
Speaker 1: would mess it up every time.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I love it. Do you have an origin story
Speaker 5: for your name?
Speaker 2: My mom went to high school with a Danielle and
Speaker 2: She said she was the prettiest girl in her high school,
Speaker 2: so she always wanted to name her daughter's so and
Speaker 2: she's my mom speaks French, so that's a French name.
Speaker 5: Oh, I love that, Simon. How did you come up
Speaker 5: with the names for your kids? We went into that process.
Speaker 2: Honestly. I wish I could say that it had like
Speaker 2: significant family meaning or the romantic origin story, but we
Speaker 2: just picked the names because we like the way that
Speaker 2: they sounded.
Speaker 1: Logan, I guess it's like a little bit of familiar
Speaker 1: history in there. We both have Scottish ancestry. Logan is
Speaker 1: a Scottish name. And then Keenan.
Speaker 2: One of my best friends exes is named Keenan and
Speaker 2: we always liked the name. Did you have to ask
Speaker 2: for permission? I don't Did we ask for permission? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: But they're really good friends still, and he's still part
Speaker 1: of our friend group, so it's all good. Inspiration can
Speaker 1: come from anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you guys have friends who are pregnant and
Speaker 2: in the process of naming kids, and they start to
Speaker 2: bounce around names and you don't like the names, do
Speaker 2: you say anything or do you keep quiet?
Speaker 5: I did once and I learned my lesson. You spoke up.
Speaker 4: What you say, Huh, that's interesting. I really overstep myself.
Speaker 4: I'm blinking on the actual name. But I remember saying
Speaker 4: something like, I think that's a cute name for a kid,
Speaker 4: but imagine when he or she grows up and what
Speaker 4: that will sound like as an adult.
Speaker 5: And my friend got really offended.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to say,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, because I think there was a trend,
Speaker 1: like like you mentioned that Jennifer Jessica.
Speaker 4: Like, growing up, there were a thousand mats, there were
Speaker 4: a thousand mics, there were a thousand Nicks, So I saw,
Speaker 4: you know, the generation tried to start naming their kids.
Speaker 6: Actually I know whose kids there. She was just being
Speaker 6: weird and I was anyway, so never again, I won't
Speaker 6: ever again. Yeah, are still friends, we're best friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But and she was like, I'm gonna do whatever
Speaker 5: I want. And I was like, okay, you do that,
Speaker 5: and that was the end. But do you feel like.
Speaker 2: Though that if somebody's asking you your opinion, like they
Speaker 2: have to be willing to be open to the fact
Speaker 2: that you might not like the name. Yes, of course
Speaker 2: you're opening yourself up to feedback, right.
Speaker 4: I think people want to have their opinions reinforced in
Speaker 4: that situation.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you're right, you know so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't say anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I learned my lesson. I don't say a thing
Speaker 5: in my head.
Speaker 2: I do that.
Speaker 5: I am judging.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is twenty twenty five, your kid that.
Speaker 4: But I do think there was this trend of because
Speaker 4: so many of us in our generation there were the
Speaker 4: same names. Now everyone wants to give their child a
Speaker 4: unique name, so there's no repetition.
Speaker 2: But I even think there's a little backlash on lap
Speaker 2: because after celebrities started naming their kids such unique or
Speaker 2: outlandish things, that was a trend for like seven years,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, everyone went back to
Speaker 2: these old time names.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like if you do, you know an Apple? Did you
Speaker 2: grow up with an Apple in your class?
Speaker 5: I don't know. No, No, no Apples.
Speaker 2: You know it's very unique.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I also have a theory about this. I think everybody
Speaker 2: from school growing up has one name that they would
Speaker 2: never name their kid because of somebody that they went
Speaker 2: to school with. I'll give you mine. I went to
Speaker 2: school with someone named Harley, okay, and he was a menace.
Speaker 2: And even I actually like the name Harley. I think
Speaker 2: it's cool. I could never name my child that because
Speaker 2: of this kid. I think everyone has one.
Speaker 5: Everyone has one. Mine is Lauren.
Speaker 2: What did Lauren do?
Speaker 5: I love the name Lauren. We did not get along.
Speaker 5: I'll just say that.
Speaker 1: But what about on the flip side, what about naming
Speaker 1: your child after like a childhood crush cute?
Speaker 2: I think it's cute.
Speaker 5: I think it's adorable.
Speaker 1: Like there was this really cute boy in like kindergarten
Speaker 1: that I had a crush on. His name was Seth.
Speaker 1: I think that's a really cute name. Her boy, and
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: I think if you have positive memories attached, it could
Speaker 2: work that way too.
Speaker 5: Totally agree, totally, totally.
Speaker 2: This has been so much fun, Tim, Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining us.
Speaker 5: All Right, Oscars party in my house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except for no, Lauren is invited.
Speaker 5: No, we're going to crash your girls trips amone. Have
Speaker 5: the best time.
Speaker 2: Tim, as ever, thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 5: Thanks, They'll have a great weeknd.
Speaker 2: Tim Palazzola is an Emmy Award winning producer and the
Speaker 2: showrunner of the bright Side.
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