1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Welcome into JAG's am. The preseason is done. Regular season 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: around the corner. But we've got a hurricane on Wednesday. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: What do I need to know from my first hurricane? 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: You guys, you're the weather guy. Yeah, it'll be winding rain. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: Okay. Should I get snacks? 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: Yes, snacks and make sure you have coffee. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Okay, John good booze, I should know. Welcome in tot Jagson, 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: presented by Carshield or here in Hyundai Studios, Kai Nannie Stevens, 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, John Oser, sober Sally this morning. Of course 10 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you got your coffee, but we will have our booze 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: for the hurricane. 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: That is a good recommendation. 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: I do appreciate that. 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 5: Oh. 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: I think most people around here they're already stocked up. Yeah, 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: they know that, like from day one, as soon as 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: you turn hey it's twenty one. 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 5: I was listening on the way in and heard my 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 5: buddy Mike Burush talking about it, and he said, it's 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 5: you know, it's that rare storm that comes up out 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: of the Caribbean that's going to kind of bend to 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: the east, and it looks like it's gonna come over us. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 5: You know, during the day on Wednesday and probably still 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 5: have some hurricane force wins. I mean no meteorologists, but 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 5: you kind of learned to be one. We live in Florida, 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 5: so listen to Burish. That's the best advice I can 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: give you. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: All Right, I appreciate that start with our big things. 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: The preseason is behind us. Finally we got that fast 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: start we've been talking about. Doug Peterson is saying he 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: wants to get that fast start from the offense, and 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: other than a little hiccup from Tank, pretty good out 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: of the gate. Is that what you were hoping to see? 35 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 5: It was, you know, press Taylor said last week and 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 5: then was followed up with the coach in the quarterback 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 5: where they talked about clean, clean, clean, and man did 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 5: it look clean for the first eleven plays John and 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: they mixed in the pass and the run beautifully. That 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: was a picture perfect drive until Bixby was a little careless. 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: With the football. 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought it was exactly what you wanted. 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: And I don't worry about preseason pumbls. I don't think 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: Tank's going to be a fumbler. It struck me and 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: it's hard to put into words, but yes, they were clean. 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: But. 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: They played with this energy and with this confidence like 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: they expected to do what they did and what they 49 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 4: wanted to do is I hate the phrase send a message, 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: but that felt like they were sort of sending a 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: message of this is what we are. And I wish 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: I had a better way to put it than that, 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: but there was an energy to it, there was an 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: aggressiveness to it, and there was a confidence that every 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 4: play was going to work, and it was I don't 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 4: get excited about preseason, but sometimes teams start to look 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: like they're going to be something that looked like what 58 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: this team wants to be, and it was impressed to 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: see them do that in that final warm up. So 60 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: many times we've talked on these shows for years and 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: years is about what you might see. Think they gave 62 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: the Jaguars fans and inkling of what they're going to 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: be this year. 64 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: Well, and that's really the point is is what they 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: are looked good. And that's before they've had a lot 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: of time, I mean, think about where they could be 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: in November. The production crew that does our television preseason 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 5: broadcast is from Saint Louis and a lot of those 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: guys used to work around the Rams, and in nineteen 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: ninety nine, you know, they were telling us after the 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: game they could see the greatest show on turf starting 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 5: to evolve, and of course it exploded pretty early in 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: the season. It became something special and no one was 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: anticipating it because remember Kurt Warner was the third team 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 5: quarterback who had to take over for the injured Trent Green, 76 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 5: and it just sort of evolved into what it became. 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: I get the sense that we could see something that's 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 5: going to have a lot of people going, WHOA where 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: did that come from. 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: One of the things for me is, specifically I've talked 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: about it in practice, Trevor seems to be not going 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: to Doug as much for obviously for you know, counsel 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: and discussing things, but not on how to run things. 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: And when you see him running all now, it looks 85 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more like he's in control of everything 86 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: that's going on, which is what you want to see 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: out of your quarterback. I think he missed that is 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that that third down pass is a Jones and then 89 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: they went forward and fourth down that was kind of 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: like him being like, all right, I got this like 91 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: and kind of going with it that way. And that's 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: something you know, when you have a young quarterback, you 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: love to see that. 94 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: He said on Thursday when we met before the game, 95 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: that he has a strong confidence in his command of 96 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: what they're asking him to do because they have a 97 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: great line of communication between Mike McCoy, Press Taylor, and 98 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 5: Doug Peterson. They're all on the same page and he 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: feels comfortable with it, which John is exactly what you 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: expect one of those elite guys to be able to do, 101 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: even in their third season. 102 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to talk about Trevor so much. I 103 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: think what impressed me the most on Saturday was it 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: looks like the run is going to be there for 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: them much more. And I'm gonna say we didn't anticipate 106 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: them being a good running team. I don't know if 107 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: we expected to see the ETN look quite that good, 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: quite that confident, quite that strong. At as Doug said, 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: they were blocking, the offensive line was playing on the 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: other side of the line of scrimmage, and when you 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 4: had Bigsby to that, it just feels like there's an 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 4: element with this running game. We've all talked about it, 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: but almost as an aside and almost like, yeah, it 114 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 4: could be good. I think the running game it's going 115 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: it's not going to get the opportunity to be what 116 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: the seven team was. I'm not going to compared to 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 4: that because that was a team that ran its way 118 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: to what twelve and four record? Yeah, eleven and five, 119 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: and they had one hundred and fifty six yards a 120 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: game rushing. So this is a different style team. But 121 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: these two backs yea early on the game and I 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: hate to even not mention now journ just because he 123 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: looks really, really good. 124 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: But those first two. 125 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting to see how Doug and 126 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: Press want to call these games, because I think they're 127 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: going to try to figure out away bus as possible 128 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 4: to use this run to set it up. And it's 129 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: different now, by the way, different looking offense. 130 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 5: I think the earnest is past hasty and they like hasty. Yeah, 131 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: but that tells you how much they like DearS Johnson. 132 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Let's go on to big thing number two, because it's 133 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: going to be about who makes the cut. We're going 134 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: to talk specifically about players that we have, you know, 135 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: either that may have been on the bubble that we 136 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: think will get in or maybe the first guy out later. 137 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: But just in general, I want to just talk about 138 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: this scene because I know you guys have been around 139 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: for a while. This has to be one of the 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: teams that has retained the most players and probably the 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: least amount of spots available from year to year, maybe 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: just from last year, because I think when we talked 143 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: to Doug, he said, you know, maybe five fish. 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: Well, generally in a season, you'll see the roster turnover, 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: not necessarily starters, John, but the roster. You know, about 146 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: a third of the roster on a yearly basis will 147 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: turn over. And that's among teams at the bottom. At 148 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: the top, it's a little bit less than that. There 149 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 5: weren't that many jobs available because they retained everybody from 150 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: last year. If not everybody, right, arden Key didn't come back. 151 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 5: There's a couple of those guys, But for the most part, 152 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 5: this is a roster that comes back from last year 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 5: with just a few jobs open. 154 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still think you're gonna find eight, nine, ten 155 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: rookies just because they're gonna keep these guys on the team. 156 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: And you always have a little roster churn just because 157 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: at the bottom of the roster year contracts run out 158 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: and you've got guys that you know are going to 159 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: replay one thing I was thinking this weekend about I'm 160 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: not trying to short change the receivers on this year. 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: We talk about how deep the receivers are, and they 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: are deep. One reason I think they look deep is 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: a lot of times they're catching passes from a real 164 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: good quarterback now, so the whole the whole thing looks better. 165 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: So guys are performing better in it. Does that makes sense? 166 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's. 167 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: I think there were guys in the past who fans 168 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: have dismissed and we're off the team quickly, who may 169 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: have looked good in what's going on now because you're 170 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: a part of something that's functioning very highly. So that 171 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: was just a little thought. Yeah. 172 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: I mean it is Manning with the offensive line, he'd 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: lose an offensive lineman or two even and still play'd. 174 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: I remember him making Charlie Jones, who was a left 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 5: tackle for them. I think it was eight maybe nine, 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: and I'm thinking, well, here's an advantage for the jag Wars 177 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 5: to take advantage of it. They couldn't touch it because 178 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: Manning was so good. 179 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: Our last big thing of the day is going to 180 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: be precedent because Saturday's game was cut short after an 181 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: injury to Dolphins player that both coaches and player reps 182 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: came in and decided they didn't want to finish out 183 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: the game. I think there's eight and a half and 184 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: eight change left in the fourth quarter, and that's the 185 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: second preseason game this year that's been called early. The 186 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Packers and Patriots called their game after a similar injury 187 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: to one of our Patriots players. And just Brian and 188 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: I feel very strongly about this, just the precedent that 189 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: it sets without anything written down about what they're going 190 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to do in a situation like this. 191 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: Well, I have two questions, and look, I have lots 192 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: of questions, and I've been thinking about this, and you 193 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 5: and I talked about it last week a little bit, and 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: we elected not to make it an issue because it 195 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 5: didn't have enough local at this point. But John, would 196 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 5: they have canceled that game if it had happened in 197 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: the first quarter? 198 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: Probably not. 199 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 5: So what's the difference between the first and the fourth 200 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: and how the players feel, because that was what both 201 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 5: Doug and Mike McDaniel cited was the way that the 202 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: players were reacting and they were, you know, concerned for 203 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: their players, and then the second question is, well, it 204 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 5: would they cancel. 205 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: It on opening day? 206 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: No? 207 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 5: Okay, So then what's the difference between players these feelings. 208 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: It's pretty season well, okay, the difference. 209 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: But they didn't cite that that was the thing. 210 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 5: They cited the fact that they were worried about their 211 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: players and how their players felt well. And what I'm 212 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: saying is that can't be the criteria. There has to 213 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: be a plan for how this goes forward, not just 214 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: two coaches, two players and the official making the decision. 215 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: Well, I do think it doesn't realist to think that 216 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: it you look at preseason games through a different lens anyway. 217 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: I get that to a degree, but this is still precedent. No, 218 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't. 219 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: I don't think they would stop this game during the 220 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: regular season, mainly because he had movement in his extremities 221 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: and he was conscious. 222 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: They stopped it on January second, on Monday Night football. 223 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: For Lamar Hamlin. 224 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: That was a significantly scariest thing. 225 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: But you get what I'm saying, though, There's got to 226 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 5: be something to be president of a delineation here on 227 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 5: how you're going to do it. Because a couple of things. 228 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 5: You've got customers who buy your tickets, fill your parking lot, 229 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 5: your beer, your hot dogs, your sodas. Right, you've got 230 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 5: television partners who have customers who buy the advertisements that 231 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: pay the fee. And now gambling's involved in this as well. 232 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 5: And so if you're canceling games and you're not gambling 233 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: on preseason I'm assuming that we're talking about the regular 234 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 5: season here. I guess what I'm saying is, I'd like 235 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: to see the commissioner who represents the owners and the 236 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 5: players Association, who represents the players and the networks, because 237 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: they're a full partner in this, and then gambling is too. Now, 238 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: I mean the league is they're in those waters. 239 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can put gambling into this 240 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: because there's a million things that affect gambling. 241 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: Well, okay, but you have to understand when you're taking 242 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 5: the money from them. 243 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: Now, oh well that's a whole Well they are, they're 244 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: taking their partners right, right, But they chose. 245 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: To but they chose to get which is why you 246 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 5: have to at least consider it. And what I'm saying 247 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 5: is there needs to be a criteria of what and 248 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 5: how If it's life threatening. DeMar Hamlin was dead, they 249 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 5: resuscitated him. Okay, that's the criteria. But if you I'll 250 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: give you a great example, and Darryl Stingley, Mike Utley, 251 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 5: Dennis Bird, Ryan Shazier, four players from nineteen seventy eight 252 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 5: a preseason game to December of two, twenty seventeen, who 253 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: are all to some degree paralyzed. Okay, and then there's 254 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: Joe Eisman, which is probably the most gruesome injury I've 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 5: ever seen. You were a Redskins fan, I know you 256 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: probably think the same way. On Monday Night football in 257 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five, they all went back and plagued. All right, 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: But if you're saying, this is absolutely one where we cancel, 259 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 5: But what about this because that injury, I don't know 260 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: if you've ever seen it, but it was a complex, 261 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: compound fracture where the leg did this, and it was 262 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 5: hard to watch then and it's hard to watch now. 263 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: And if players are going to be disturbed by the neck, 264 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: they're gonna be disturbed by that. I just want there 265 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: to be some clarification. I'm going to speak at noon. 266 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: I spoke yesterday and I was asked the question and 267 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 5: I couldn't give the answer. They said, would they cancel 268 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: in the regular season, and I could only say I 269 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: don't think so. So I would like to see if 270 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 5: you're going to cancel games, yeah, which I think is 271 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: dangerous to do for all kinds of reasons. I'd just 272 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: like to see somebody say, here's the rules. 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: My guess is what they'll do is they'll have a 274 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: hard fast rule during regular season and probably you know, 275 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: I see your point. I would think they would get 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: very close to we're just not stopping under the regular 277 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: season and then during the preseason saying it can be 278 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: a coach's decision, much like was made. But I do 279 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: get think these two back to back incidences, the tone 280 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: has clearly changed, the mood has clearly changed. 281 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: So I think you're right. 282 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: I think there is that to be I had a 283 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 5: woman to me, I don't want my son to play football. 284 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: Change my mind based on the last two Saturday nights. 285 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: She was, if they're canceling games, then it must not 286 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 5: be safe. Well, look, the game has never been safer. 287 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 5: I coached youth football for ten years and I had 288 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: to get certified by USA Football, which is run by 289 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: some former NFL types like Bill Pollian, and it's taught 290 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: heads up. There's a story this morning in the Athletic 291 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: about I think it's the icis. I don't know whether 292 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 5: it's pronounced vicious or vicious, but position specific helmets and 293 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: I know the guys at right now and the things 294 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: that they're doing. Player safety has never been more at 295 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: the forefront, and I think that it should be right. 296 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: But you still have to take into account the business 297 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 5: side of this, and remember all the consternation about if 298 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: they had had to play the Bills and the Chiefs 299 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: in Atlanta in the AFC Championship game because they canceled 300 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: the Bills Bengals game. You just have to have a 301 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,479 Speaker 5: set of criteria that everyone understands. 302 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: And I think that that's what eventually will happen. I 303 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: don't know if it's this year or whenever they have 304 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: player meetings next. 305 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: But here's the physicians. 306 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: Peter King's Money Football Morning in America column is the 307 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: most prominent column. It's a must read for most people 308 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: in the NFL. Last week he wrote extensively about the 309 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 5: decision in the Packers Patriots game. This week this morning, 310 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 5: not one word was written in this column about what 311 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: happened on this field. So are we now just saying, well, 312 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: that's normal that what we do or are we saying, well, 313 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 5: that's what we do in the preseason. Again, some clarification 314 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: is really important for the league going forward. 315 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: My guess is what will happen, and this is probably 316 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: this may sound cold, but I think what they'll eventually 317 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: come to the players excuse me, the player association and 318 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: the league office will get together and they will say 319 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: we're not stopping any more games. And it's not a 320 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: matter of coldness. It's more a matter of we've looked 321 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: at this, we understand and in the preseason, I think 322 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: that fine. In the regular season, my guess is they 323 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: will look at it and say the players will have 324 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: to weigh in and say, we understand the risk involved, 325 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: We're okay with moving forward no matter what. They do 326 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: that when they sign their contract, right right, But let's understand, though, 327 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: this is a game that is the most viewed game 328 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: in America because there is risk. People they don't watch 329 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: basketball like they watch the NFL. Right, and think about this. 330 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: College football drives that entire scene, and the NCAA Tournament 331 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: is one of the great sporting events every year, but 332 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: it's all college football that drives it. Football drives television revenue, 333 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: which creates salary opportunities for coaches and players. So there's 334 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: risk associated with it, and if you take the risk 335 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: out of the game, it's it's not nearly as popular. 336 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: So you've got to take. 337 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 5: All those into account when you're looking at the big 338 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 5: picture here, and what I'm saying is not my game. 339 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: So you all decide what you want to do, but 340 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 5: just clarify it. Make it simple so that everybody knows. 341 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: I think we'll get there eventually. Obviously, the decision is 342 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: still up to the coaches and the players at this point. 343 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: At least it was on Saturday and they made that 344 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: decision for themselves. 345 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: It's up to the owners now. The owners have to 346 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: weigh in on this. 347 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: When they do, we will then know coming up we're 348 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: going to do highlights from Saturday's game, and then we 349 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: will also talk about who's going to make this fifty 350 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: three man roster. 351 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back to jags Am. 352 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: You can sign up your furry friend for the Jaguars 353 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Official four Legged Fan Club for pets presented by Forever 354 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: That's Animal Hospital. 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Obviously he 365 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: was involved in this thing, but he's using the tight ends. John, 366 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: you were talking about the running game really coming through, 367 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: and I think when you have all these weapons at 368 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: your disposal up more than just the wide receivers, which 369 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: we talk about a lot, that makes your offense a 370 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: little bit more dynamic. 371 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you better get this team in some bad down 372 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: and distances, because it's a team right now that with 373 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 4: all these weapons, if they're in first and ten second, six, 374 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: which is obviously what you want to do, if they're 375 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: on schedule, they're gonna be really dangerous. And again there's 376 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: Tank's fun. Well, I don't expect that to be a 377 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: long term issue. Actually got an email Brian, somebody saying 378 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: why did they run tank outside. When he's a power 379 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: runner who runs up the middle, Well, you know you're 380 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: not just gonna run Tank over the middle with like 381 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: like straight handoffs. Teams will figure that out. Look, they're 382 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: going to be dynamic. I think what's really scary about 383 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: this offense is when Bigsby's in the game or Etn's 384 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: in the game. Etn doesn't mean pass around here, right. 385 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 4: Etn runs hard for his size, and he ran with. 386 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: The shoulders square to the last scrimmage. Hey, how about this. 387 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 5: When we talked to the coaches about Luke Ferrell, they 388 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 5: talked about how he was potentially a better blocking tight 389 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 5: than Chris Mannherts, who was here the last two years. 390 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 5: But you saw him on that first drive catch two 391 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 5: balls for first downs. When Luke Ferrell is involved in 392 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 5: the passing game, that tells you how deep you are. 393 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Doug's gonna have a lot of fun with that tight 394 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: down room for sure. And then Tank Bigsby, he's a rookie. 395 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: That's a learning mistake. I think we have all all 396 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: the confidence in the world. 397 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: Who's going to learn from that one? On this one? 398 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: Learn to hold onto the ball, Yes. 399 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: It might do old school, have to carry the. 400 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: Guy goes guy. 401 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks said it the other night, guys are coming 402 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: hard after the ball, and they might not do that 403 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 5: in college football. 404 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: They might not he or it might not be used 405 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: to it. 406 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: One of the other things I think, obviously, the maybe 407 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: highlight of the night was Calvin's catch, and that's just 408 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: a tiny little flash what we're going to be able 409 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: to see from him, that tow dragon catch that at 410 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: first look maybe not in bounds, and then you take 411 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: them there. 412 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 4: That's a special player doing something that most human beings 413 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: can't do. 414 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 5: The line judge was right there and he waved his 415 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: hands immediately. You can see him right here watching no 416 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 5: no catch. 417 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: It's wild on the replay Alvin immediately. I mean, it's impressive. 418 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: The guys know he knew what he had done, he 419 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: felt it. It's impressive. He's gonna even beyond that. 420 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: Though. 421 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: The first play of the game showed what Ridley's going 422 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: to be for this offense. Easy, easy twelve yard completion 423 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: because the team, the opponent, knew what he could do 424 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: if they played press on him. He changes a lot 425 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 4: for this offense. 426 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I do want to mention the defense a little bit 427 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: because we saw the starters on defense, and obviously Tyreek 428 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Hill did Tyreek kill things on the very first play 429 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, this is gonna be a 430 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: long day, or at least a long first quarter. And 431 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: they had a nice little come together moment at the 432 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: goal line. I won't call it a full goal line stand, 433 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: but they they kind of they got their job done there, 434 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: and I Ray Robertson Harris had that tackle at one point. 435 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: I think that's the next play after this where he 436 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: kind of just comes in and it's close to closeeslining 437 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: anybody and pulls them back around. 438 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: As just a large man that he is. 439 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 5: He's got such a large frame and he is so 440 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 5: good inside. And most people missed the every day, every 441 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 5: play things that he does because it's overshadowed by what's 442 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 5: going on around him. 443 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: But he is a really good player. 444 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: He's a huge anchor in that line. 445 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: Like I said last week, if these teams play sixty minutes, 446 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: the Dolphins are gonna make plays. There's no defense in 447 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 4: the NFL. It's gonna consistently keep Tyreek Hill from having 448 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 4: a play or two. I thought it was impressive what 449 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: the Jaguars did. They made sure that the big plays 450 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: didn't turn into touchdowns. I think that's what this defense 451 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: is gonna need to be there. You have touchdowns, the're 452 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna give up big plays, but in big moments, 453 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: which for preseason this was a big moment and they 454 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 4: got to stop held them to a field goal. I 455 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: think that's what this defense at the end of the year, 456 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: if they do those kind of things, the offense is 457 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 4: going to be so explosive that that's going to be 458 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: enough from this defense. 459 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: You know, people generally deride a defense that is described 460 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 5: as bend but don't break, But that's what that is, right, 461 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: I mean, that is just it's waiting, being patient, making 462 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 5: them make mistakes and not giving up touchdowns and giving 463 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: up field goals perhaps instead. But that's Ben but don't 464 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 5: break it at worked for the Jaguars there, and with 465 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 5: an offense like the one that he is here in 466 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, you can deal with that, you can 467 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: win with that. 468 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: And they're also you know, taking advantage of opportunities in 469 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: terms of turnovers, and we saw two of the young 470 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: guys get interceptions in this game. And yes, you're Abdullah 471 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and Hallett, who's been struggling with that injury a little 472 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: bit in camp, I think, but flash there another tow 473 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: dragger on the sideline, as Bucky I think said, because 474 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: that's what you need as well. Right, yeah, Ben, don't 475 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: break and then maybe get us an extra possession here 476 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: and there, and then more than likely not Trevor's Trevor 477 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to get you points out of it. 478 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: So when you see some stuff like that, and even Abdullah, 479 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: who's probably not going to have I wouldn't think of 480 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: as an interception person, but when you throw the ball 481 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: right to him, he's going to get a pick. But 482 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: this one was athletic right in front of the sideline. 483 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: I think just any time you can create turnovers, obviously 484 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: that's beneficial to your team. 485 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: Well that's what his defense was last year. And you 486 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: talk about Ben, but don't break. They were opportunistic and 487 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 4: you sense that this is going to be a team. 488 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: If they play seventeen games, they usually will be able 489 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: to get a lead with this offense. You hate to 490 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: assume things, but the percentage chances look like this is 491 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: going to be a team that can get leads. Once 492 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: you're a team that gets leads, and you get a 493 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: couple of picks and you end the game quickly. That's 494 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: their formula for being really good if they can play 495 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: to it. 496 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: By the way, because they were sort of ben but 497 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: don't break last year and we saw that in this 498 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 5: game last Saturday Night. Doesn't mean that with the talent 499 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 5: that they have, they can't flip the script and be 500 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: one of those attacking and go make your own play defenses. 501 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Right. 502 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: I mean, if Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker create the pressure, 503 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 5: if you get Devon Hamilton back and Foley and they 504 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 5: can control the line of scrimmage. If Tyson Campbell has 505 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 5: the kind of season in the safeties too, right, have 506 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: the kind of seasons that they're capable of. I mean, 507 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: they can play the other style too, But if the 508 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: bend but don't break is their backup, it works pretty good. 509 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: It's amazing how many picks and sacks you start getting 510 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 4: when you're ahead ten to nothing early in the second quarter. Absolutely, 511 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: and teams feel pressured to throw and they don't want 512 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 4: to throw. 513 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: Seven interceptions and I forget eight or nine sacks in 514 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 5: the preseason, so pretty productive. 515 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: Let's hope we see that positive change for the defense. 516 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: If not, we also we talked about that wide receiver, 517 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: that last wide receiver spot, and there was about maybe 518 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: four names. I think after Saturday is probably three names, 519 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Tim Jones, Seth Williams, and Elijah Cooks because they all 520 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: made plays in this game. And I know it's going 521 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: to come down to special teams, but as any of 522 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: either of your's decisions changed or. 523 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say that because that's something I think we're 524 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: talking about later. 525 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 5: On, and I'll say I think Tim Jones probably solidified it, 526 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 5: and he was the best of the special teamers. But 527 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: I think some of the catches that he made, the 528 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: way he played the last two preseason games, I don't 529 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 5: see that there's any way you take him out of 530 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 5: the equation. 531 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: And they like him a. 532 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: Lot, and I think there's some factor of knowing a 533 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: system that they appreciate, especially at seeing how everyone else 534 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: has really excelled in the second year with Doug Peterson. 535 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: He has been here, so he knows things. 536 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: That does it. 537 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: For our highlights from Saturday's game, coming up, we're going 538 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: to talk about these roster cuts coming on Tuesday, who 539 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: we think will make it, who might be the first 540 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: guy out of More on that coming up after. 541 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: The break moved, the freight moved the freight. 542 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Magellan Transport was voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. 543 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: You can apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com. 544 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back to our Monday edition of Jagdam. We are 545 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: one day before cut day and we're going to do 546 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: our final edition of the fifty three. But we're going 547 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: to do a little bit in an addition to that, 548 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: in the sense of who's had a great training camp, 549 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: great preseason, really solidified themselves as being one of the 550 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: fifty three final roster, and then who is someone that 551 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: is going to be on the outside looking in at 552 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day on Tuesday. 553 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: All right, So my fifty third is Garrett Prince, and 554 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: not because he had a tremendous impact on the field 555 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: in preseason games, but because I know they like him 556 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 5: a lot and they might not have used him in 557 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: the way that they intend to use him. A talented 558 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 5: guy had a great offseason, and so I think he 559 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 5: makes this team. And the guy that I think is 560 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 5: just off is Christian braswell. I think they wanted to 561 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: give him an opportunity and they did to really compete 562 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 5: to be the backup Nickel cornerback. But in the Dallas game, 563 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 5: he had back to back penalties for illegal contact. One 564 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 5: that was a critical play in the sense that it 565 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: would have been in the regular season, where it was 566 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: a first down off of a third down. Right, he 567 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: did the same thing the other night, So that's a 568 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 5: technique issue for a young player who's having to learn 569 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 5: how to play in the National Football League. So I 570 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 5: think he's a practice squad guy for sure, because they 571 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: like him and he's a guy that they have a 572 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 5: plan for. So I say, Prince makes it has fifty three, 573 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: and Brashwell's that first guy that they can bring back 574 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 5: up at some point when he's ready. 575 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could be right. 576 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: I think they like him a lot. 577 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: I think they may be scared to let Braswell out 578 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: there because they really like his skill set and they 579 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: know teams, So I get it. 580 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it again. 581 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: You could be right. There's something about Braswell that makes 582 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: me think they could be scared to do that. But's 583 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: make decision. Yeah, you made decisions, So let's flash mine 584 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: up because I'm drawing a blank on what I chose to. Yeah, well, yeah, 585 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: I went with Caleb Johnson because of something that to 586 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: make it because he's farwell special teams coach. Last week, 587 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: I referred to him as a four core player, So 588 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 4: I'd be a little surprised if he's not on the team. 589 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: And he's one of those guys that when you're doing 590 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 4: a fifty three media and fans sometimes overlook because they 591 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: don't quite see, Okay, this is a guy who can 592 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: play special teams and they trust him at linebacker if 593 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: there are injuries. So I don't know this one for sure. 594 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: That's what it feels like. I think Tim Jones to 595 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: your point earlier, I originally had Tim Jones in this 596 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: spot just to make the case that boy, I don't 597 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 4: quite know what they're doing at receiver. 598 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: But I'd be surprised at this. 599 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: Point if it's not Tim Jones based on the trust 600 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: they had in him last year and the fact that 601 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: they have seen him over the course of time. 602 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: Trust is so much with. 603 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 4: Coaches in terms of when they're making those decisions. 604 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: Jones is a four core special teams player. Wingered is 605 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 5: a four core special teams player. 606 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: Those guys you don't let go, especially when they've done 607 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 4: things that you like as reserves, so they'll try, they'll 608 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: try like hell to get those big receivers onto the 609 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: practice squad. Yeah, the question is whether you can get 610 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: a back or not. But those guys cook Are Jones 611 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: in particular is a tremendous special teamer. And then Nathan Rourke, 612 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: my gut says he's not on the fifty three, but 613 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: does someone grab him? 614 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: Did he flash enough? 615 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: Or is this someone that's going to be on the 616 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: practice squad. 617 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: There is a tendency, and we've talked about it. You 618 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: see your own players, mean, the guys that we all 619 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: watch and think, wow, does the rest of the league 620 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: see Nathan Roorke and say I've got to have that 621 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 4: at the expense of something else that I've been working with. 622 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: Is he that much better than the guys that are 623 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: on other rosters. It's a risk, and at the same time, 624 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: if Trevor ain't playing, it doesn't matter yet. 625 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: So. 626 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: I think he gets released and maybe picked up by 627 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: somebody else. There's great storylines. I wish I had a 628 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: better answer. I just don't know with Nathan lell. 629 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 5: And I don't know what the backup situation is like 630 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 5: on the other thirty one teams. Has someone hurt this 631 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 5: preseason and someone desperate for a guy with an arm 632 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 5: like this guy has and the moxie that he has 633 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: in the pocket because he's a tough kid, and they 634 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: say that's better than any other guy. I could get it. 635 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: Even though he might not be ready to be a two. 636 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: I'm better with him than someone else. I can't say that. 637 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 5: I don't know all the other situations, but that could happen, 638 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 5: and it. 639 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Could be a later in the year thing, because as 640 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: we know, if quarterback go down and injuries come up. 641 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: He'll be on someone's roster, if not as a two, 642 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 5: as that third. 643 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: For my fifty three, I went running backs because we've 644 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: seen Dearness Johnson really solidify himself. I know, john you 645 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: just mentioned he probably up to three out of the 646 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: of the four that they're going to keep, including Jamichael 647 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Hasty and Stuve Connors unfortunately worked his way out here. 648 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: But you have to be happy with the running back 649 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: room that you do have because as you mentioned, those 650 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: first two backs are really lighting it up. And then 651 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: to think Dearnest is your third. He scored in Saturday's 652 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: game as well. It's it's getting the embarrassment of riches 653 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: on offense all around. 654 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: Oh, Brian. They've had great running back rooms around here, 655 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna say he's the best one, because 656 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: when you've had one that inc it's MJD and Fred. 657 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: From one to three or potentially four, it's great. Yeah, 658 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: it's well. 659 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: And again there was whenever you have MJD and Fred 660 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: in the same backfield. 661 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: Well, in ninety eight they had two first round picks, 662 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: Fred Taylor or James Stewart and the third round pick 663 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 5: in Tavian Banks, who was electric before you get it. 664 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that could have been the best. But this 665 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: is when you're putting a group in those conversations around 666 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: here because it's been a running back team, it's been 667 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: a quarterback team historically. Uh. I usually don't get excited 668 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: about watching running backs, but I'm excited to watch these guys. 669 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: I think Tank and Travis etn uh are going to 670 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: do special things. Maybe maybe you have a nickname at 671 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: some point, kuy Oh. 672 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: We love a nickname. 673 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we'll preview what's coming up the 674 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: rest of the week, cuts tomorrow and we'll tell you 675 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: what's happening. Jags fans, If you want customized jaguartch furniture 676 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: for your home. 677 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: Check out zipchare dot. 678 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Com to browse all customizable options. Zip Chair is furniture 679 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: for fans. Jagxam presented by Carshield today are only jags 680 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: am of this week because we are not going to 681 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: have a show on Wednesday or Thursday. 682 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: We will be back on Monday. 683 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, you're gonna be happy to be away from us. 684 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: You've seen this every day for like a month. He's 685 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: lying to you. 686 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: And then we'll be back on Monday and regular season schedules, 687 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: So we go Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, let's do it. I 688 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: just want to detail the schedule for some people that 689 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: cuts are at four thirty. They have to be in 690 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: by four thirty on Tuesday. And then, Brian, can you 691 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: explain kind of the waiver wire. 692 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 5: Well, it's different this year because it's it's one cut, 693 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: not too so that the market's going to be flooded 694 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: with you know, eleven hundred players who are going to 695 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: be available, So teams can't start claiming players until four 696 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 5: thirty on Wednesday. Right, it's not instant like it has 697 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 5: been in the past. You have there's a twenty four 698 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 5: hour period there for them to be able to figure 699 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 5: things out. So they've kind of slow paid it, Oh, 700 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: played it this way so the teams can make it work. 701 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: And then I think they have until four point thirty 702 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: on Thursday, I think practice squad right, so it's a 703 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: little bit different because all the teams are cutting everybody 704 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: at the same time. 705 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: And then we'll hear from Doug and Trent on Wednesday. 706 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: As of now, per Hurricane, we'll see when we actually 707 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: end up talking to them. But any surprises we're gonna see, Johnny, 708 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: you think it'll be pretty straightforward. 709 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: You know, I'm terrible a surprises because you don't enjoy them. Well, 710 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: I'm fine with them as long as they benefit me, 711 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 4: but I don't ever really know what people are expecting, 712 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: and then we get so close to the roster that 713 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 4: it's not surprising anymore. I don't think there'll be any 714 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: big names, you know, any David Garrard getting released at 715 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 4: Lunched kind of plays memory there, So I don't think 716 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: there'll be any shockers like that. 717 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 2: I do expect there. 718 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: Will be those of us and those of the fans 719 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: who have who have dug deep and sort of locked 720 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: in on some guys. I think there'll be some uh 721 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: you know, uh in the old days, but I would 722 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: call page three stories. 723 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: No surprises, let's tell you, let's hope for no big surprises. 724 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: As for that, we'll be back with you for jags 725 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Am on Monday. Until then, have a great week, be safe, 726 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see soon. H