1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Attention, rude dudes. Great news. We have a website now. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it's super modern and super sleek, very user friendly. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Totally legal, totally cool. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: And you know what's on that website a link, and 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: you know where that link goes merch. You can get 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: your very own Ridiculous Crime t shirt. The shirts will 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: be available until. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Guy Fiery finds out that they say flavored and he 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: makes us take them. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Down right, So act now, rude dudes, go to Ridiculous 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: Crime dot com. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Oh you damn right. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren. I got a question for you. Yes, okay, 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: do you know it's ridiculous? 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: Yes? 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: Yes? Is it? Well? 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: You know we're recording this kind of close to Easter, 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 3: And do you have any Easter candies that you really love? 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: I used to really like the marshmallow yellow I guess peeps, 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: I think they're terrible, right, But I was like, I 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: didn't know any better. I never got stuff like that, 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: so it was like a delicacy to like me. 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: Did you ever eat Cadbury cream eggs? 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: No? Those were gross? 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: No way, I loved those when I was a kid, 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: I knew so sweet I've had one. 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh god, they're disgusting. 29 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: It's this gooey nuclear waste inside it. Chocolate. 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Now I don't like those, but you know what I 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: do love sandwiches. 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh god, you pivoted on me. He did you pivoted 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: to a mash out? 34 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 5: Oh? 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, completely. 36 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: So. 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: We have gotten a ton of recommendations for this one. 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: I don't know who came in first, because they didn't 39 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: give them to me an order of all of the 40 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: like Instagram and recommendations. But a lot of rude dudes 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: were onto this. And let me just let me just 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: read to you please. 43 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: From the New York Post. 44 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: Let me wash over me. 45 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: If you've ever wanted to take your love for Cadbury 46 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: cream Eggs to the next level, now's your chance. Subway 47 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: the Sandwich Empire is joining with them to launch a new, 48 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: if perhaps strange sounding creation, just in time for Easter. However, 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: not everyone is excited about it. It's okay, hold on, 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: bite down on that belt. I'm the six inch sandwich 51 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: available in the UK on Good Friday, which, hello, you're 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: not supposed to be eating candy on Good Friday. 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: But whatever, it's not meat or candy. Let's it's let's 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: not over. 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Well, if you give up candy for lent right anywhere, 56 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: go on six sandwich. 57 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: No partying on good Fridays. 58 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: No, I'm not supposed to be cele. 59 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Despite the name Goodwich. 60 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: So the six inch sandwich, it's only in the UK, 61 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: is made on the chain's Italian white bread and has 62 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: a chocolate cream egg melted in the middle of it. 63 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: So the pictures is just bread and a cream egg. 64 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it looks like it looks like they 65 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: give you a couple of them and they melt them down. 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: It's got like like seer marks on the outside. It's 67 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: a Penniners So it's a. 68 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Cadbreak cream chip buddy. 69 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, people, you know only five hundred of them 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: will be made k Yeah, and they'll be available for 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: free at just a few select subway locations in England. 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: That's what they can't make in London. They can't be 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: sued in case anything goes wrong in. 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: A person's you have to sign a waiver. So yeah, 75 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: London and Liverpool. But again, by the time anyone hears this, 76 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: it's long past. Rusty Warren, Subway's senior manager of New 77 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Product Development and Innovation. This is what he said on 78 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: russ Our Italian white bread and Cadbury cream eggs makes 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: the most flavorsome combination, a perfect seasonal treat. 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: This like an animated turtle. 81 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: This guy eats sugar packets at Denny's. Yeah, so it's 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: this cool collab. 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: Huh, we'll mash up. 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: Unfortunately for some it doesn't look like it's going to 85 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: be coming to the United States, so we're safe for now, 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: unless you know, I'll just go into the kitchen here 87 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: at headquarters whip up one. 88 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Why do you do this because I love it? 89 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, I got something for you. I got a second. Yes, 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: we'll wash that out of your memory. This one's wild, 91 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: I promise you. I'm just going to read you the 92 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: highlights of an ingredients list. Okay. A pro surfer turned 93 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: jewel thief named Murpha Surf, a speedboat racing jewel thief 94 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: named Alan, a freelance writing used car salesman named Francis 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: Eva and Jajah Gabor Nora, Ephron, Bob Dylan, John D. MacArthur, 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: JP Morgan, and the most spectacular jewel theft in US history. 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 6: Oh boy, Yeah, this is ridiculous crime. 98 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, Heiss and cons. 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: It's always ninety nine percent motor free and one hundred 100 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: percent ridiculous. You damn right, Yeah, Elizabeth, as you've explained 101 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: to me, true crime basically starts with Truman Capote's novel 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: in Cold Blood. 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah for the most part. I mean you had pulp 104 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: magazines and. 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: Such tabloids, the pulp like the Keyhole magazine side. Okay, 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: but true crime really gets born in the mid fifties. Okay, 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: all right, then it's obviously you're right, it starts to 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: replace the tabloids because one thing we know about America, 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: we love crime. So it's just gonna change genres. Right, 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: So true crime becomes this more intellectualized, less tabloid version 111 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: of let's consider what criminals really mean to society. And 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: this is also, by the way, devoid of the j 113 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: Edgar Hoover moralism that had been really hold in the 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: thirties and the forties and the fifties. You're like, whoa, 115 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: this is way beyond go get them g men, Like, 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: we're dealing with serial killers in the American heartland, right, 117 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: and you had. 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: A rule that right, She's the one who was she 119 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: worked at a suicide hotline. I believe I may be 120 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: messing some of this up. But she worked at a 121 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: suicide hotline next to Ted Bundy. 122 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Oh whoa. 123 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: And then when everything happened, she realized it and she 124 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: wrote a book about him, and then she started writing 125 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: all these other true crime nonfiction. 126 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so she kicks off like the really yeah yeah, Okay. 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: So this is I'm talking about more is the early 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: sixties where true crime really kind of hits more than 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: newspapers and becomes less of a tabloid affair. And the 130 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: first star of this true crime wave when it hit 131 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: prime time was Murph the Surf. 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: Murph. 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know this. I'd never even heard of 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: this cat. He was a national surfing champion. He was 135 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: a tennis pro. He was a circus high diver. He 136 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: was a stuntman in the movies. He was a concert violinist. 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: And he was the subject of a film that used 138 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: his nickname as the title Murph the Surf, starring Robert Conrad. 139 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: What is it short for Murfher the Surfer? 140 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: But I love it. Its name was Murpher. Their kids 141 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: murfer because they like their kids Murfher. Why you're just 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: setting them up for elementary school abuse. I had a 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: weird name. I can speak on this, I know, I mean, 144 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: Murpher rhymes with too many things. Anyway, So tabloids of 145 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: the day, right along with newspapers a record, they all 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: breathlessly recounted the events and the exploits of old Murfher 147 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: the Surfer, right, that's for you, thank you. No Murph 148 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: the Surfer. As I said, he's this super fit, handsome, blonde, 149 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: sunglass wearing surfer, very classic early sixties but also this 150 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: is coming out of the fifties era of like Kookie 151 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: and the Surfers, and like you know, they're kind of 152 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: like beat nick surfers listen to jazz music. So he 153 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: loved jazz. He was a hophead, high on the jazz cabbage, 154 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: I mean, and so yeah, he was always good with 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: a SoundBite too. He was like really quotable. This dude 156 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: gets portrayed as such an all American anti hero that 157 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 2: Bob Dylan latches onto him and is like, oh yeah, 158 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: this is the spirit of America in this moment, and 159 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: he brings them up in his liner notes really oh 160 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: yeah for the album bringing It All Back Home. Okay, 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: So Bob Dylan wrote, and I quote. I'm standing there 162 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: watching the parade, feeling combination of sleepy John Estis, Jane Mansfield, 163 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Humphrey Bogard, Mortimer Snurd, Murph the Surf, and so forth. 164 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: Erotic kitchhiker wearing Japanese blanket gets my attention by asking 165 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: didn't he see me at the hoot Nanny down in 166 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: Port of Iarta, Mexico. I say, no, you must be mistaken. 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: I happened to be one of the Supremes, So yeah, 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: dat you like me? He has Diana Ross and the 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: Supremes on his mind. I relate, I get it, get it. 170 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: But the Murph the Surf just jumps out because, like 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: I knew, Mortimer Snurd, you know, that's a Edgerberg and 172 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: Charlie McCarthy like idiot character. He's a Marriot. We not 173 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: Mary Anette. What is it? A new dummy? Yeah, thank you. 174 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: But it's like Humphrey Bauregard, you know, but Murph the Surf. 175 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: So this cat had his moment in American culture, right. 176 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: And I also I mentioned there was a young writer 177 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: who would later make her name in Hollywood. At the time, 178 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: she was working as a journalist nor A Ephron. She 179 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: was a rookie reporter and she gets basically gifted this 180 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: story of this jewel heust with this gorgeous surf bro 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: and she recalled writing about this back in twenty ten, 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: Efron said, quote, these guys had committed the perfect victimless crime. 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: They just seem like fabulous party boys. Yeah, so she 184 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: loved these guys. Alright, this is the kind of glowing 185 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: coverage they're getting, right. This story has lots of fabulousness 186 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: and the party boys and just straight up hilarity. I 187 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: promise you all of that. For instance, there is a 188 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: surprise appearance from the co star of a famous pig, 189 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: yes Ava Gabor, remember the star I can sing them? 190 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: Can you? Can you also do petty coat junction? 191 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Sure? 192 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that about you of course. Now obviously 193 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: there's the jewels. We'll get into those. They had their 194 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 2: obnoxiously big jewels. These are the kind of jewels that 195 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: had nicknames like the DeLong Star Ruby, the Midnight Star, 196 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: and the Star of India. 197 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: So is a star? 198 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, stars, the biggin Star, dude, you know how big 199 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: and these bad boys were. The DeLong Ruby was one 200 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: hundred carrots. The Midnight Star was one hundred and eighteen carrots. 201 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: It was a black sapphire. The star of India was 202 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty three carrot oval shaped blue sapphire. 203 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: How what's the like give it to me in like. 204 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: Inches size of a golf ball. 205 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: All right, wow, okay, right, And like when you say, like, 206 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: what was there five hundred carrots, you're. 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: Just picturing actual carrots, aren't you. 208 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: No, I'm thinking like that's got to be like bigger 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: than a basketball. 210 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't quite work like that, But I'm not 211 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm not good Like, I'm not like nothing. I know 212 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: nothing about it. 213 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I know nothing about it. 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: But I just like to imagine like a big jewel 215 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: size like basketball. 216 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your hand. You're like, oh my god, 217 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: his ring is. 218 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: Like Schequil O'Neil size jewel. 219 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: We make an earring, It just rips through your ear 220 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: low when you put it on. 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: That's the curse your imagination. So the reason I wanted 222 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: to tell you this story is, yes, there's a jewel 223 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: heist at the heart of it. It was one of 224 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: the most spectacular of US history. Right, But the thing 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: for me is the real hero of the story a 226 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: freelance writer. 227 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll get it people exactly. 228 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: We're get it history much much later. But first let's 229 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: focus on the jewels and of course the jewel thieves. 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: So Murph the Surf Ready to meet Murph real name, 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 2: Jack Roland Murphy. Oh okay, but apparently he switched his 232 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: name from Ronald to Roland. I get it. My middle 233 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: name is Walter, I know from bad middle names. Like 234 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: if I could switch it somehow, would just say, oh, yeah, 235 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: it's Wilther or Walther. I don't know. He there's no 236 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: good options. But anyway, he switched it to Roland. Walmart's 237 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: all right, So bye boy. Jack Roland Murphy born in 238 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty seven in La Raised in the town of 239 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: Carl's Bad, California. Yeah, Carl's good. Carl's Bad because anyway, 240 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: just north and east of San Diego, out in the 241 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: like basically the it's good for caverns. It's known for 242 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: cavern anyway. His father was this hard ass. He pushed 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: his son, and Murph of the Surf responded in kind, 244 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: and he became excellent at everything, and I'm talking everything, 245 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: notably surfing. Obviously, he was a standout in the early 246 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: southern California surf scene. In the nineteen sixties. You can 247 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: imagine them out there with the redwood boards and everything. Right, 248 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: he's there when they actually start getting phone boards. So 249 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: he was out there with the eight foot redwoods. Anyway. 250 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: So his father moves his family far from the coast 251 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: that his son loves and they go to Ready McKeesport, Pennsylvania. 252 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just southeast of Pittsburgh, right there in Steel Country. 253 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: So he goes from Sunday southern California to the Grace 254 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: Guys of Pittsburgh and he's like, well, I guess I'm 255 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: not surfing anymore. 256 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 257 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: So he graduated high school there and rolls in nearby 258 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: University of Pittsburgh. He's given a tennis scholarship. So I 259 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: told he's really good at everything. At the same time, 260 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: he started playing violin at the Pittsburgh Symphony. 261 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: In the symphony That's what he says. 262 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: Yes, but he didn't stay in pitt long because he 263 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: got the bug to go surfing. I told you it 264 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: was key to his survivor. So he moves south. He's like, 265 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: he picks up sticks and sets course for Miami. Now 266 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: down in Florida, he gets back to the surfing he 267 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: loves and He's named Florida's top surfer twice, and he 268 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: wins the National Surfing Championship. The dude's like really good. 269 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: Right nineteen ninety six, he was inducted in the Surf 270 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: Legends Hall of Fame. Yeah, like, dude is, like I had. 271 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: No idea there was like a big surf scene down there. 272 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like they'd have Florida good big waves. 273 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I mean, Atlantic doesn't offer but 274 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: if you go with the storms and stuff, you can 275 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: get really good waves. I mean Kelly Slater is from Florida. 276 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 5: Well. 277 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, New York Times dug into Murtha Surf's 278 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: life story. They found there were a couple questions, a 279 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: couple of inconsistencies ones you noted. It's like Murtha Surfy 280 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: claimed that he played violin for the Pittsburgh Symphony when 281 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: he was just eighteen years old. Now when they checked, unsurprisingly, 282 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: there was no record of him ever being part of 283 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Symphony, but you know whatever, So they also 284 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: checked the tennis scholarship that did seem legitimate. So he 285 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: was really good at tennis. And then there was rumors 286 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: that he was a mensa level genius. 287 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: Right, so they said he start those rooms. 288 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, it just it was out there and the people 289 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: are saying a lot of people are talking a lot 290 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: of people know this, you know. But anyway, they Florida 291 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: Corrections Department they tested his IQ and they found it 292 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: to be one forty three. So it checks out. Ye, Now, 293 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: Murpha surf. He was a mix of believable legends and 294 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: outsized facts. As you can tell. 295 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: So IQ is like golf, right, the lower the better. 296 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go with that. Yeah, this guy's basically like 297 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: an ad water and ready mixed curiosity for mid century America. Right, 298 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: you can kind of just hear it. Oh yeah, I 299 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: remember always he's a very good looking guy too. So 300 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: you have a championship you know, jewel thief in the making, right, 301 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: who's also a secret genius and a tennis pro. 302 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: He's a real murfer exactly once. 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: I I'll just said everything he does, right, well, i'll 304 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: take that back in quote. In fact, he's top notched 305 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: everything he does. So yeah, anyway, well, while he was 306 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: a freshman at pit, I tell you he was watching 307 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: this movie called The Miami Story. And in this it 308 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: was this It wasn't a new movie This was a 309 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty four noir flick, and it was like IMDb 310 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: sums up the plot as this quote. Fed up with 311 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the rising crime rate in Miami, the police chief and 312 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: leading members of the city council hire a former gangster 313 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: who's gone straight to help eliminate the biggest crime syndicate 314 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: in the city. He's like, dude, I want to go 315 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: be the biggest crime syndicate in the city. So yeah, 316 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: And like many criminals. 317 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: We cover different aspirational elements in every film. 318 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: Exactly. Some people watch Gandhi and they're like, I want 319 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: to be you know, Gandhi. Other people are like, I 320 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: want to be that guy in the British Parliament. He 321 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: looks like he's got power. I'm just saying, you know, 322 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: not everyone roots for the hero in the movie. So 323 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: Murph the surf he sees this movie and he's like, 324 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: I want the life up on that big screen. We've 325 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: covered this a lot of apparently, criminals get their start 326 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: in a movie theater, right. So he drops out of college, 327 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: moves to Miami and you know, but to America. So 328 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: we needs a job. So what does he do? I 329 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: told you he's a handsome young man. Right tourist town 330 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: like a bunch of other handsome young men. He goes 331 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: down to hotel Row and he gets a job pleasing 332 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: the tourists. 333 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: Oh. 334 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: He goes through a string of jobs. He's a pool boy, 335 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: a candy man, a swimming and strate, and I know 336 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: you're going with that, a scuba instructor. Eventually he gets 337 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: a job as a high diving stunt clown performer. Yeah. 338 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: So he would do flips off a high dive like 339 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: a really really high die right, like super high epe 340 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: by forty feet right, and then he would pirouette and 341 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: dow aerial twists, and then he'd slice into the pool 342 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: and barely make a splash, like really impressive stuff. Right. 343 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: Of course he excels at this too. So out of 344 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: the pool though, one day he puts his hips to 345 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: work and he gets a job and he's teaching dance 346 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: lessons with all the grabby snowbirds who are working the 347 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: cavana scenes. And so Murph the surf he gets h 348 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, he does what a lot of the beautiful 349 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: in the handsome due He gets himself taxed to the 350 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: wealthy tourist life via marriage. He meets a socialite glorious 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: sauce stock. They have two boys, Murph the surf though, 352 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: is not cut out for this life. It does not 353 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: last long. 354 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 355 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: Then eventually he marries again, this time second wife, far 356 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: cry from the wealthy social light Elizabeth. I think you'll 357 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: like her. She was a secretary for the Space program. 358 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: Oh good for her boss, the German rocket scientist Werner 359 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: von Braun. 360 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 361 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: So she's there with a Nazi rocket scientist, says he boss. 362 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Now this is his partner. He's like, okay, baby, you 363 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: get my whole vibe. She's like, I got you, baby. 364 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: So he becomes a pro surfer, and then he gets 365 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: back to his beach bone ways, and these things are 366 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: going well for him. He opens up a surf shop. 367 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Can you guess what he calls it? Merh surf shop exactly. 368 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: Then the second marriage fizzles out. You know, the Space 369 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: program secretary. She's like, you know what, I'm gonna stick 370 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 2: with the Nazi rocket scientist in my stable life. And 371 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: then you know, his business falls apart. His partner's cheat him. 372 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: So what does he do. He starts beech bumming even harder, Elizabeth. Yes, 373 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: he does more booze, more drugs, more party, more women, 374 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: more music, more paddling out, all of it. He just 375 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: turns up the knob right, and then eventually the knob 376 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: crosses a line we call crime. Yes, yes, And after 377 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: a little short break, I'll be back and we'll get 378 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: into Murph the Surf becoming Murph the Crime Surf. Yes, 379 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: all right, Elizabeth, all right, Zaren. The year is nineteen 380 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: sixty two, it is, yeah, you know, can you feel it? 381 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm right there. 382 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the Kennedy years, you know everything. Buddy's 383 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: his go go jet age or we're going to the moon. 384 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: I've just turned forty eight. 385 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: We just we got to beat the commies. You're forty 386 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: eight and looking at the prime years of your life. 387 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: Exactly. 388 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: So our dude, Murphed the Surf. He's out one night 389 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: with his friends. They're on a nighttime boat, riding a speedboat, 390 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: as one does when you live in Florida and you're 391 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: a crazy surfer. Of course, so he's out there cutting 392 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: the waves and they're doing that rhythm. 393 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: Bang bang oh right, yeah, bouncing up and down off 394 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: that yeah. 395 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: Exactly, just just slamming the bottom of the boat. Eventually 396 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: they slow it down and they pull up to a 397 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: dock at a mansion, right and a couple of the 398 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: cats on this boat they hop off and then they just, 399 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, speedboat motors away, and he's like, oh, I 400 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: guess we're dropping them off. A little while later, after 401 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: bang bang for a while longer, the boat circles back 402 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: and they pull back up to that same dock and 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: the dudes come running out of the house and got 404 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: apparently like a bag of stuff. That darkened house. Doesn't 405 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: look like anybody was greeting them, so he murphed. The 406 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: surf free quickly puts together as they scamper onto the speedboat. Oh, 407 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: I know what we just did. The boat takes off 408 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, in they here woo woo. 409 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: In Florida, they have police on boats just in the channels. 410 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: So the cop boat is on them real quick, and 411 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: apparently they're just like hanging out in the nice part 412 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: of the docks or whatever canals. So this cop boat 413 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: starts giving chase and they're whipping through the canals trying 414 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: to get out to the Biscayne Bay. Speedboat takes off, 415 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 2: but the cops have a go fast boat too, so 416 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: they're on them right now. The speedboat is trying to 417 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: escape when they realize they can't escape them, so the 418 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: robbers they hand Murph the Surf of bag of stolen jewels, 419 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: like hey, you swim fast, right, and he's like yeah, 420 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: and heels write what they mean. He goes right over 421 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: the side and the cops don't catch him. They don't 422 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: notice him going over the side. They stay after the speedboat. 423 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: He swims all the way across Biscayne Bay, which is 424 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: a really big body of water. But he's a surfer 425 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: so makes it. And uh, it's a long swam, Like 426 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: I told you, it's cold water, it's at night, I mean, 427 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: like most people probably would have drowned. But anyway, he 428 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: makes it because of course he does. He's good at it, right, 429 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: he's Murf the Surf, And so he hands the jewels 430 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: back to his burglar buddies and then a couple days 431 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: later they come back to him with twelve grand Huh 432 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: he is now a jewel thief. Yep, just like that. 433 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: Done deal, right. So the guy who owned the boat, 434 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: that dude was named Alan Cohonk. He ends up becoming 435 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: a crime buddy for Mirf the Surf, Right, he doesn't 436 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: have a cool nickname, so we'll just have to calling 437 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: him Alan Coon. But whatever. So Alan Cohn is he's 438 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: also another you know, pretty boy beach bum surf cat. 439 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: You know, he's a Florida like a local perfect partner 440 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: from Mirf the surf. Right. But they they're ambitious young 441 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: street criminals. So they start robbing waterfront Miami mansions, just 442 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: one after the other, and they're just they're really good 443 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: at it. And then now they're also they're blowing their 444 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: loot on booze and drugs and women, all the fun 445 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: stuff that young men with stolen jewels would spend their 446 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: money on. Right, and then washmnts repeat, and then they 447 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: do it again, and surprise, surprise, they catch the attention 448 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: of the local police because you know. 449 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: What's what happens exactly, like where do these. 450 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: Guys getting these money for these flashy cars and for all? Anyway, Yeah, 451 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't make the cops long ago, I think that 452 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: up to no good. A couple other people notice this, 453 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: so who else would be like, ah, I like these 454 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: cats very good. Guess no, but a fence named Hi Gordon. 455 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: I just imagine a fence, an actual. 456 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: Fence, like a hurricane fence. 457 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: Hurricane anthropomorphic fence. 458 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: So Hi the hurricane fence. He starts giving them shopping 459 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: lists for the burglaries, because he knows there're some good 460 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: stuff is. He's like, Hey, there's this twelve carrot emerald 461 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: cut ring that just so happened to be chilling in 462 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: a Palm Beach mansion and if you just so happened 463 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: to know how to get it, I just so happened 464 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: to know the address, and so Hi the fence. He 465 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: offers the beach boys this gig, and he offered them 466 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty grand in nineteen sixties. Though, wow, 467 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: this one ring, if you just so happened could get 468 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: your hands on it. So merph to Surf and Allen 469 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: are like, bet you know. So they're like, let's fire 470 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: up the speedboat. They race over to the Palm Beach mansion. 471 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: They break into the house, no problem, cover of darkness, 472 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: snatch the ring, speedback over to high the fence. Are like, 473 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: all right, show us the money high now. Hi. He 474 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: checks the ring right, and he's like, my dudes, I 475 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: have most unfortunate news. It just so happens that this 476 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: ring that you stole is a fake. Like, what do 477 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: you mean he's like, yeah, well, if you doubt my word, 478 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: he shows them the Jewelers Loop and they're like, all right, 479 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: all right, it's fake high. And he's like, you know, 480 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: I bet the owners have the original up in their 481 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: place in Manhattan if you were to go up there 482 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: and just so happen to put your hands on it. 483 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, yeah, we get it. So they're like, bet, 484 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: now what do they do? Well, they pile into the 485 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: expensive convertible white Cadillact they've purchased with their stolen jewel 486 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: money and they go tearing off for Manhattan. 487 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: The Beach Boys take Manhattan exactly. 488 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: So, uh, while they're in New York, the Beach Boys 489 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: are like, whoa bruh, you see how many jewels there 490 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: are here? They totally decide forget whatever high the fence said, 491 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: we's get our own like shopping list. So what do 492 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: they do? Eventually they look all around Manhattan, They're like, oh, 493 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: what do we do? What do we do? I don't know. 494 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: They settle on the vast gem collection of JP Morgan 495 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: cause you know, if you're gonna go for it, right yeah. 496 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: So also once again it comes down to a movie. Yeah, 497 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: I know, right, this time. It's the movie called Top Copy. 498 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: You ever heard of this one? No, okay, it's a 499 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: Maximilian Schnell movie. And he plays a jewel thief and 500 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: he's going he's hired to steal an emerald encrusted dagger. 501 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: That is this this jewel blade? Right, it's located in 502 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: the Top Copy Palace in Istanbul, Turkey. Therefore Top Copy 503 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: so no, some might say Constantinople, but. 504 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 3: I say, well, Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it's istam okay, stop. 505 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: Putting on the reds. It's by Peter Boyle voice. 506 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing it. 507 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: I know we're mixings, but I just want to do 508 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: Peter Boyle anyway. So they watched them moving all right, 509 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: Murphis Surf and Allen. Their accomplice, a house painter named 510 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: Roger Clark, who's along for the ride. 511 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay, why not? 512 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be uh Like they all go they 513 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: watch Top Copy together, like, hey, h Roger, you want 514 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: to go see this movie. They watched the movie, they're like, bro, 515 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: we gotta go steal some gemstones, right, and so they're like, yeah, 516 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: let's put this together. So they drive Rome in Manhattan 517 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: in the aforementioned white convertible Cadillac. They drove on the 518 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: west ever west side, and then they go, oh yeah, 519 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: JP Morgan's gemstones. Now do you know where they're they're located. 520 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: It's not JP Morgan's house. 521 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's dead by this isn't it a bank? 522 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: Nope? Good guess. Stored at the Hall of Gems. 523 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: In the YMCA. 524 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: Very good guess. The American Museum of Natural History. Oh 525 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: right by Central Park. Really cool museums. 526 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: Go in the museum. 527 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to a museum. Break in right, okay. 528 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: Museum was found in eighteen sixty nine. In nineteen oh one, 529 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: JP Morgan was like, look, I have no loved ones here, 530 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: take my gems. So he gives them a gems and 531 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: then they're like cool, thank you, we'll put these on display. 532 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: And the Museum of Natural History. Have you ever been there? 533 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 534 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: It's really cool. I went there as a kid one time, 535 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: and like, I didn't go there to like go check 536 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: out the Robber Barons, fancy rocks. I went there for 537 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: like the dinosaur bones and all the animals. Place is amazing. 538 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: I recommend it to anybody. I still remember the Gelatto 539 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: I had there, Like I remember everything about that place anyway, 540 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: So they're like, look, bro, we should totally steal JP 541 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: Morgan's gemstone. So they go backing a plan, right, But 542 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: by this point, Murph the Surf and Allen they have 543 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: their techniques down and everything, so they're a little confident 544 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: their career criminals and they get what they're doing, right, 545 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: But they don't have a motor boat or speedboat rather 546 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: to do anything. So they're in Manhattan, but they're like, whatever, 547 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: we never broken into a museum before. Whatever, it's gotta 548 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: be the same as a big mansion. So they decide 549 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: we don't really need a plan at all, so city 550 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: sort of wing it and see how it goes, all right. 551 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: So the math is on the side though, because this complex, 552 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: the Natural History Museum, has twelve buildings but eight security guards. 553 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: Eight's for twelve buildings. 554 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: I know, right, And so the guard that's responsible for 555 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: the Hall of Gems, he's this old dude. He's got 556 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: a flashlight out there with equally old battery. So it's 557 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: just that kind of thing, right, And there's one window 558 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: that has to be left open that night, you know, 559 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: just for some fresh air for the museum just happens, 560 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, it's little stuffy. So anyways, October twenty ninth, 561 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four. It's a Thursday, Elizabeth. The beach boys 562 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: have gathered up all their supplies that they think they'll 563 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: need for this job. They're not literally planning for. And 564 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: what do they have. They have a coil of rope 565 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: thermal lance. They have a powerful jack, they have a 566 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: duct tape. They have some glass cutters. They have rubber 567 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: suction cup from when they cut the piece of glass 568 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: so they can pull it out like, oh, exactly, and 569 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: they're good to go, like we got all our stuff right. 570 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: That's the target Natural History Museum. And Elizabeth, rather than 571 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 2: just keep telling you about it, I'd like you to close 572 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: your eyes. 573 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: My eyes are closed. 574 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: Picture it. Elizabeth. You are a spider. Yes, you live 575 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: in the Museum of Natural History. You've been busy tonight, 576 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: like most nights, you're spinning a web high above the 577 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: Hall of Gems. You don't particularly care for all the gemstones. 578 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: You don't care about the gem cases, all the jewels inside, 579 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: but you do like all that open air above the 580 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: gems where all the bugs like together. That's good hunting. 581 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: So you're spending your time, you know, just making another web. 582 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: But you're about to have to give up all your 583 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: handiwork this evening because right around nine pm you crawl 584 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: up a thread of silk working on your latest strand 585 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: of the web when you spot movement far down below. 586 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 2: It seems awfully suspicious. Outside the window there's a white 587 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: convertible cadillact just idling across the street, and it looks 588 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: like some narrot wells at the wheel. At the ground 589 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: level of the building though, you spy two men, blond 590 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: haired surfer types. You don't even know what a surfer is, 591 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: but these look like surfer types to you. Now you 592 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: watch as they crawl up and over a fourteen foot 593 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: fence with wrought iron spikes at the top of it. 594 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: You're oppressive. The surfers then head to the museum wall. 595 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: You move and swing over to another window so you 596 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: can follow their movements. 597 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Nosy, I know you are. 598 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: They just jump up and they grab the fire escape. 599 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: Then they clamber up five stories up the fire escape. 600 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: Then they step out onto a ledge. This ledge, it's 601 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: just two inch, which is wider than a foot. Now, 602 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: being good at math is a spider You know that's 603 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: fourteen inches because you're into math all right. Now, they 604 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: shimmy along the side of the building and you watch 605 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: them tie off a rope and you think to yourself, 606 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: nice web amateurs, but whatever, it works fine. They drop 607 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: onto the fourth floor roof and without making a sound, 608 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: very impressive it is. Now there's a window cracked open, 609 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: and so the burglars pride open with just a foot 610 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: and then you drop some more silk so you can see, 611 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: and you swing out and you watch as they make 612 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: their way into the hollow gems. These blonde beach bombs 613 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: notice a plane passing overhead and they use it to 614 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: cover their glass cutters. Now, with the suction cups they 615 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: brought with them, they lift the glass circles out of 616 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: the display cases and then this glass it's about an 617 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: inch stick. Once again, you're really into facts has a spider. 618 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: You're really into dimensionally, so you're measuring with eye. You're 619 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: like that stick glass. They reach into the holes cut 620 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: in the glass cases and they lift out gem after 621 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: gem after gem. It's just like whoa was? I mean, 622 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: I didn't even know we could be like that. So 623 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: you're wondering why no one thoughts maybe I don't know, 624 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: change the batteries on the display case alarms, because that 625 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: would have been a good call. Oh well, too late now. Yeah, 626 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: So the thieves get away with a five hundred and 627 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: eighty three Carrot Star of India, the one hundred and 628 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: sixteen Carrot Midnight Star, and the prize of the pack, 629 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: the DeLong ruby. Oh yes, so this ruby is so 630 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: striking to look at, even to a discriminating spider like you. 631 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: You like this one because it's bright red blood red 632 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: in color. It's rich and deep with color size of 633 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: a golf ball, and it was a mind in mean 634 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: mar back in nineteen thirty. You appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, 635 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: it's one of your favorite gemstones. And now it's gone. Anyway, 636 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: in total, you watch the beach bombs lift twenty two 637 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: gems from the cases, and then they trace their steps 638 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: back to the window they open. They climb back up 639 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: onto the roof, and you watch them climb back up 640 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: onto the fifth floor, shimmy back across over to the firescape, 641 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: and just like that, they're gone. So, after the cat 642 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: Burgers step out of the museum, you go back to 643 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: spinning a web, right, But Murph the surf and Allen. 644 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: They take a slow walk across the park Elizabeth, then 645 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: that part Central Park right now, what do we know 646 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: about Central Park cops? Oh, there's always cops on the 647 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: beat in the Central Park, and of course they run 648 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: in some beat cops are out strolling a night and 649 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: when the costs these pass with the cops, numerous cops, 650 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: not just one, numerous ones. Every time these guys smile 651 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: like dope idiots. They play up what they look like. 652 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: They're good evening officers and an officers like yeah, whatever, 653 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: good evening and wave them on. 654 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 655 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, old Roger Clark, you know, our house painting getaway driver, 656 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: he's just sitting there nervous because he's not a street criminal. 657 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: He's not a professional, not a career of criminal at all. Yeah, 658 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: he's just sitting there in this expensive white caddy at 659 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: night next to Central Park going come on, come on, guys, 660 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: come on, guys, get back to the car. And what 661 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: does he do, well, two am, He's like, I can't 662 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: wait anymore, and he leaves. He takes off, and he 663 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: goes back to the rendezvous point, the Penthouse Hotels suite, 664 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: where he finds the boys already there drunk and party guys. 665 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: He grabs some champagne and catches up No. Meanwhile, back 666 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: in the Museum of Natural History, an unlucky security guard 667 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: is about to have the scare of his white haired life. 668 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, yes. 669 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: The guard turns the corner and the Hall of Gems 670 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: and sees as his flashlight waves across the gemstone cases. 671 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: A terrible sight, the giant hole that you, as a 672 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: spider appreciated. He freaks out. Most expensive gems are car 673 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna lose his job. Everything's terrible. News breaks the 674 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 2: next day Joel thieves pulled off during midnight heist. New 675 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: York papers go nuts as news spreads. Murph the Surf 676 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: and Allan they catch a ride with the nervous house 677 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: painter turned getaway driver Roger Clark and the Beach Boys. 678 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: They fly back to Miami. Okay, Rod, you stay here 679 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: in New York with the car. Okay, guys, Now, Alan 680 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: and Murph the Surf. They get back to their apartment. 681 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Everything's cool. They got all the gemstones. They pour out 682 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: their stolen gemstones on the carpet and they wave flashlights 683 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: over them. They're like, look, man, they look like little explosions. 684 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: Bro literal quote. They look like little explosions. So, once 685 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: safely home in Miami, the two they stash their stolen gems. 686 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: Once they play with them for a while, you know, 687 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: they don't roll around on them like you know, moon rocks, 688 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: because they're a little pointy, but they do. They take 689 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: them and they hide them in Allen's speedboat. Right, so 690 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: they lay low. Now up Meanwhile in New York is 691 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 2: Roger Clark and he's sitting up there with the white caddie. 692 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: He's like, what are we going to do? He's like, 693 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: I have some friends in Connecticut. So he just goes 694 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: over to Connecticut to visit some friends because he doesn't 695 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: know what to do. 696 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: So it's like, there's nowhere to park this boat exactly. 697 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: Everyone keeps looking at me like I'm something to rip off. 698 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: I gotta get out of here. Man, I'm from Florida. 699 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know this. So he leaves. Now everything's chill, 700 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: right until it wasn't. Elizabeth No, yeah, because once again, 701 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: much like for a friend of the show, Stephen Frye, 702 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: this was overlooked hostel staff that ended their crime spree. 703 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So their gym Heights makes headlines right, 704 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 2: and this desk clerk at this fancy New York hotel 705 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: he notices something. So he phones the police and reports 706 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: there's these three young guys from out of town staying 707 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: in the penthouse suite and they've been spending money like 708 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: it's coming out of someone else's wallet. So I think 709 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: you may want to check on them. And they're in 710 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: New York PD or like, oh yeah, bet, So they 711 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: send some detectives over. They go, He give us the 712 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: key to the room. They go up to the room, 713 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: they open it up and boom. What did the detectives 714 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: fine in his penthouse suite? Well, there is off a 715 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: bunch of photos of the museum. There's sneakers left behind 716 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: with like just dusted with museum glass from when they 717 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: kicked in some glass. There's burglariggy tools all around the room. 718 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: So the detectives were like, well, maybe they're coming back. 719 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. This seems pretty dumb. So one of 720 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: the detectives stays in the room. He's just like okay, 721 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: ends up spending the night in the room and in 722 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: the morning he hears like a key jingling sit the maid. 723 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: He gets up and boom, it's Roger Clark come back 724 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: from Connecticut. There's the New York pd detectives standing there 725 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: in his hotel room in a room totally. I love 726 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: to picture him, like coming out of the bathroom in 727 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: a towel. 728 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: He ordered room service the night before, sit there. 729 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: In bed naked freeze. He's got no free seriously, let 730 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: me get my pants. So like the cucumbers on his eyes, 731 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: yeah exactly, he's only doing like a little like resto 732 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: for me. Oh yeah, Now that New York PDA officer 733 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: here rests Roger Clark. And so now these nervist house 734 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: painter turned getaway driver who is clearly no career criminal. 735 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: He does what you would expect. He flips faster than 736 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 2: you can flip. Say, I don't know a grilled cheese sandwich, 737 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: it's just And he tells the cops air a thing, 738 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: just everything you can, right. He tells them where they 739 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: can find Murph the Surf and Alan, like here's their 740 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: apartment and if if they're not there, maybe try this place. Yeah. 741 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: The next day, the Miami PDE they go right over 742 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: to Murph the Surf and Allen's apartment and they bring 743 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: the press with them. They're so certain, like the New 744 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: York Times is there, all right? So they get there 745 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: and boom, there's the New York City Jewel thieves. And 746 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: they get arrested, and Murph the Serf tells the papers man, 747 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: I was supposed to be on my way to Hawaii 748 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: to serf, but this inconvenience has fouled that whole thing up. 749 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, the Beach Boys are now in custody forty 750 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: eight hours after their heights. That's all the states away. Yeah, 751 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: the only thing left to do for now is to 752 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: get the gemstones back, which is a lot more difficult 753 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: than you would imagine, I think. So yeah, so let's 754 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: take a little break and I'll be back to tell 755 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: you about how we find these last gemstones, all right, 756 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaren. Yes, Now, Murph the Surf gets embraced as 757 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: an anti hero as soon as he gets arrested. He 758 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: gets brought back to New York and everyone treats them 759 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: like their counterculture folk heros. Right, of course, they love it. 760 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: They play into this, And I'm talking like when they 761 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: get back to face the Raymond on the courthouse steps, 762 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: there's like a wave of groupies cheering them on. No way, Yeah, 763 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: there's tons of them right. So everyone's just all about 764 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: these guys, and then New York's like, get them out 765 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: of the state. They give them bail and they send 766 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: them back to Florida and say you got to come 767 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: back for a trial. They let them go back to Miami. 768 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 2: So while they await trial they do. Now keep in mind, 769 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: no one knows who the gems are. Yeah, the insurers 770 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: are like, you let them go back to Florida and 771 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: didn't get the gems. Can we talk about that? We 772 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: don't work for you guys, man. They're like yeah, But 773 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: so now weeks are stretching on and the insurers are 774 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: getting more nervous. They're putting more pressure on the cops. 775 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: Then months past, still nothing, So then they start talking 776 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 2: to the prosecutors like are you gonna make your cops 777 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: do something? Like what's going on? So they're just like 778 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: mad worried at this point that these gems are in 779 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: like the jewelry shop chop shop, yeah, basically, and enter 780 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: Ava Gabore. Okay, so the Star of Green Acres, the 781 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: aforementioned Star of Greenacres, she was reading the news one 782 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: day when she exclaimed, Darling, I know se boys, right, 783 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: So she was looking at a picture of Murph the 784 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: Surf and Alan Cohon in the paper, and she grabs 785 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: her phone. She calls the District Attorney of Manhattan, Jack McCoy. Yeah, exactly, 786 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: nab a goo boor. She like claims that these young 787 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: men brooke in to my Miami Aupotsman dolling, and so 788 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: she like tells them that they stole fifty thousand dollars 789 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: of precious gems from her, most notably a fifteen carrot 790 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: diamond ring. I have no idea how big that is? 791 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: Well, how long? 792 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 3: How long is fifteen carrots end to end? They're looking 793 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: at like what twelve feet? 794 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably yeah, probably eleven to It is a big ring. 795 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 796 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: So but this was enough, like her, her claims were 797 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: enough to throw more charges at them, because now we 798 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: got aggravated assault and battery and robbery and celebrity has 799 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: vanity fair pudd it Gabor fingered the beach boys, oh dear, 800 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 2: so the New York prosecutor threatened the beach boys and 801 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: surf bumbs, but truly long long stretches behind bars. Now, 802 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: Murph to surf, He's like, I can do that on 803 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 2: my head. You know, it's nothing right now his partner. 804 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: Alan Kun is like, I don't know. I don't know 805 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: about this. Merph starts like, now it's cool. I doubt 806 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: these this DA has anything. Alan, he can't make this 807 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 2: cut and he's like, I'm missing my white Caddy. I'm 808 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: missing the beach. Yes, he flips. He cuts a deal. 809 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: So he tells him like he'll if you take me there, 810 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 2: I'll show you where the gems are, you know, and anything. 811 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: Just just let me out of this. I gotta get 812 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: out of Riker's Island. Oh, he sings like a canary. 813 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So meanwhile, if a Gabore she drops the charges, 814 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: she was you know, she's too busy on green acres 815 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: to fly dolland I have to do this show cannot 816 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: come right, so they dropped the charges. When Gobar drops 817 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: the charges, then the prosecutors like, oh well, and as 818 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: I quote from Vanity Fair, apparently he said it served 819 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 2: my purposes. So the charges may have never been real. 820 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: Who knows. Anyway, it worked good enough to get Alan 821 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: Coon on a flight with three NYPD detectives and that 822 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: same New York prosecutor. They all go down to Miami, 823 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: where they meet up with the guy Hi the fence, 824 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: your family, and they arrange to get the gems back, 825 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: and High the fence is telling him, like, you know, 826 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: like I have some of the rocks. But in High's terms, 827 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: he said, quote, if I did just so happened to 828 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: know as some stones might be located, would charges against 829 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: that person be dropped if that person was me? Because 830 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 2: that would likely help this person's memory. So there's somebody 831 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: to that effect right now. The prosecutor agrees the highest terms, 832 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: and suddenly I recall the location of the stones. Now 833 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: he took the detectives, the prosecutor, Alan Cone, and they 834 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: all go to a Miami diner. So then he tells 835 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: him wait outside. Now he goes inside and then a 836 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: few minutes pass and then he walks back out and 837 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: he goes, I got it right here. Now he has 838 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: a key and a note. That's what he has right here, 839 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: a key in a note. He says. The note is 840 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: directions to the hiding police scavenger hunt. 841 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: We're just there on the junket to go down there, 842 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: scavenger hunt. 843 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: Good Sonny Miami, there saw the little treasure hunt. So 844 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: the cops follow the notes and all the instructions on 845 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: the notes. This leads them to downtown Miami and then 846 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: leads them to a Trailways bus station, and then that 847 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: guides them inside to the bus station to a bus 848 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: station locker, and they go to a bus station locker 849 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 2: nine to eleven and the key. The detectives try the 850 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: key and it does indeed open the bus station locker. 851 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: Inside was a bag of what looked like dirty clothes. 852 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: So there's like some use socks and drawers, nothing anyone 853 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 2: wanted to go digging through. So the three NYPD detectives 854 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 2: and the prosecutor, now a coon, they go back to 855 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 2: a motel room. That's where they dump the contents out 856 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: onto a coffee table. And what drops out, Elizabeth, other 857 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: than the dirty drawers and the dirty. 858 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: Socks, baby Yoda, two. 859 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 2: Good guess, two aquamarine jewels, emeralds, a small sapphire, and 860 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: then the Midnight Star clunk wow, and finally out tumbles 861 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 2: the Star of India kunk. Yeah. The New York Prosecutor 862 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: expected Allan to hand over all of the gems. Now 863 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 2: inside the bag is most of the gems, so Adam 864 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: Kiel explained, he doesn't quite notice this at first. He's explained, 865 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: oh well, yeah, I'm sorry, man, we did hawk nine diamonds. 866 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: There were little ones. We needed some, you know, walking 867 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: around money. The prosecutors like, uh, yeah, they're not all here. Allan, 868 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 2: where's the uh the you know, the big daddy long boy, 869 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 2: the DeLong ruby. 870 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the long one exactly. 871 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: So he's on of looking for that one now Alan 872 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: At this point he stops grinting. He has no idea 873 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: they should be there, as far as he knows they 874 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: should be there. Yeah, it's not in the bag of 875 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: dirty clothes. So it turns out the missing gem would 876 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: be found and it would not be found by a cop. 877 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: Enter my freelance writer, Yes, Franciero and Tell, freelance magazine 878 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: writer working in the Miami area at the time, selling cars. 879 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 2: So really used cars. He was more of a used 880 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: car salesman who occasionally sold his writing for money. So yeah, 881 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: that's the really the best way to put it. He 882 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 2: is a he's a freelance writing used car salesman. Yah, 883 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: So francis antel. He follows the story in the news 884 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: and he's tracking it. Why he's watching it developed, He's 885 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: got theories. He's convinced he knows where these missing gems are. 886 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: So what does my man Francis do well, this freelance 887 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: writing used car salesman. He goes after the story, Elizabeth, 888 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: he goes right to the source. Now, do you remember 889 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: if I told you about a bandon named Dicky Pearson 890 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: that I mentioned him? 891 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 892 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 2: Dicky Pearson was this local small time criminal that Alan 893 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: Cohon asked to hide the gems and he's, man, Hi, 894 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 2: these in my backyard. Yeah, that's right, I told you. 895 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: They got back to town. He gone to his friend 896 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 2: Dicky Pearson and said, hey, man, hey, could you hide 897 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: these for me? So he had them first in his boat. 898 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: Then he gave the rest to Dickey Pearson and said, 899 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 2: hied him in your backyard. So somehow my man Francis 900 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: Antel figures this out. He goes to Dickey Pearson, and 901 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 2: Dicky Pearson at this point had been doing his best 902 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 2: impression of laying low. He is. He's trying to be 903 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: as cool as Steve McQueen behind the wheel of a 904 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: Ford fastback, right, He's just like, I'm all about the 905 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: crime live, right. He's trying to be like Florida, a 906 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: small time criminal. But my hero Francis ante he knows 907 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: a bar where Dicky Pearson likes to drink. So he's like, Okay, 908 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: my plan is I'm gonna go and confront this small 909 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: time Florida criminal. I'm gonna ask him, point blank, Dickie, 910 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: where in your backyard did you hide the gems So 911 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: now it's summer of sixty five at this point and 912 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: we're in West Palm Beach, Florida. Just to put this 913 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: all into perspective, now, I want you to imagine it's 914 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: a hot, sticky night. Dicky Pearson's as local bar, Roxy's. 915 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: It's on the Dixie Highway there, Okachobe Boulevard. Ok. Now, 916 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: Francis Ante, our freelance writing used car salesman. He just 917 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: shows up at Roxy, walks right up to Dickey Pearson 918 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 2: and says, hey, man, can I get an interview with you? 919 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: Dickie's like, yeah, interview, sure, okay, fine, right, and he's 920 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: like now, Francis. He kind of like toughens up after 921 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: he gets the agreement. He's like, okay, we're in your 922 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: backyard at the gems Bery, Dicky. So what does Dicky 923 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: do because he's like, uh, he low key freaks out 924 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: a little because like, who is this guy? 925 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 6: You know? 926 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 2: Who yeh, I know, who does he represent? Why is 927 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: he just coming up Bobby like this, Like he's like, 928 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 2: he's just the baddest man in around. So he's convinced 929 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: this guy must know something. So before he like totally 930 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: fear pees down his leg, Dicky Pearson goes, I got 931 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: the gems man, So he just tells them right, yeah, 932 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: he goes like, I gotta let me talk to high 933 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: the fence and we'll take care of it. 934 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: Now, this is like school for bad criminals. 935 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing just imagining all this happening in a Florida 936 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: Bards sixty five. That's the other part. So Dicky Pearson says, 937 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: and I quote, it's my understanding that the people who 938 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: have the stone are willing to return it if they 939 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: can obtain immunity from prosecution. They all talk like damon 940 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: runyon asque characters like you know, Harry the Horse says, 941 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: if there's a man who is a no, I may 942 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: know that man anyway. So Dicky Parrison, he asks, He's like, 943 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 2: by the way, if we can talk community, that would 944 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 2: be great for prosecution, but also maybe a little money 945 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 2: on the side, you know, for the effort. So what 946 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: does he ask for twenty one grand. He starts to 947 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 2: touch around. 948 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, okay, asks the freelance journalist for twenty one. 949 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't know who this is. Remember this guy came 950 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: on him like he's a tough guy, right, So he's 951 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: like okay, now, oh my boy. The freelance writing youth 952 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: car salesman. He doesn't know anybody. He's not representing anybody. 953 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: As you point out, he has no money. He has 954 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: the ability to make a deal, but he's like okay. 955 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: He bluffs him. He's like, I'll be in touch. So 956 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: now he's got to go find this money. So what 957 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: does he do? He does what he does best. He 958 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 2: does research. He starts reading. He reads a lot. He's 959 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 2: a writer, so he's the library and he's just And 960 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: then also he knows a couple of criminals. So he 961 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 2: starts listening to what's the word on the street. He 962 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: hears from the word on the street that there's this 963 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 2: missing stone. The last one is most likely in the 964 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 2: possession of some loan sharks. They have it and uh, 965 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: they know the stone is hot and they want to 966 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: get rid of for some ready cash. Yeah, so what 967 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 2: does our freelance writing youth car salesman. Do now, Elizabeth, Well, 968 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: you tell me. He goes to his editor because he's 969 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 2: got a story. He's like, I need money. I'm gonna 970 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: go to my editor. So he goes. He lays the 971 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 2: whole story out in his lap. And his editor is 972 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: dude named Bill Antel, not the an anyway, their names 973 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: are similar. Anyway, Bill Antell, he's a city desk at 974 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 2: or Miami right, So he's a former investigative reporter. He 975 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: loves his story. He starts digging into it. He comes 976 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: back to Francis Antel and he's like, look, man, I 977 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: can't corroborate enough of this, so this story doesn't check out. 978 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 2: We can't run with this. He's like, what are you 979 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: talking about? I got it all here. Francis freaks out 980 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 2: freelance writer style. Yeah, and the editor's like, look man, 981 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: you got to calm down. So Francis the freelance writing 982 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 2: youth car salesman, he's like, this is this is fine. 983 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: I'll take it somewhere else. So he's like, who else 984 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: has deep pockets? When want this story? The New York 985 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: papers and so he contacts the New York Daily News. 986 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 2: They love this story. They're all about it. Francis now 987 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: has a new lifeline, but there's one problem. They will 988 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 2: not pay the loan sharks for the gym, so he 989 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: still has a problem. He now he's somewhere to publish 990 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: his story, but he needs money and he's a broke 991 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 2: ass freelance writer. So what's he gonna do. Well, he 992 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 2: goes to a local billionaire, because duh, who has money? 993 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 2: He's billionaires. Money's like it's a plural. 994 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Anywhere they have the money, they. 995 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: Have the money, lots of the money, so many moneies. 996 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 2: So this is the mid nineteen sixties, right, and this 997 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: guy was an accessible billionairess the mid sixties, so he 998 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: liked to take lunch and hold court at a corner 999 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: table at a hotel coffee shop. So he can just 1000 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: find his billionaire sitting at a hotel coffee shop. Now, 1001 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: the reason why he liked this one is he owned 1002 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 2: it so he could tell people to get out. 1003 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: Who is this billionaire? 1004 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well i'll tell you one sex So Labor 1005 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: Day in nineteen sixty five, Francis antell. He walks in 1006 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 2: to visit the billionaire in his you know, coffee shop office, 1007 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 2: tells him, look, I need twenty five grand for some 1008 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 2: ransom money for this missing gem from the National History Museum. 1009 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 2: You probably read it about his big news and consider 1010 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: you're you know, it's important, and this billionaire is like hmm. 1011 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: He gets curious. He does consider it his civic duty 1012 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: to help the billionaire. Elizabeth John D. MacArthur, Oh same 1013 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 2: John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation of TBS and 1014 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 2: NPR fames. 1015 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: And cries you know what, viewers like you exactly. 1016 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: You know it. So that dude sitting there in his 1017 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: corner booth of the coffee shop, he listens to Francis 1018 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: lay out the story and he's like, hmmm, I don't know, 1019 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 2: my boy, this all sounds like hogwash or some kind 1020 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: of Yankee balder dash. I'm I'm kidding. He's from Pittsburgh. 1021 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about it all anyway. Francis antel. He's persuasive. 1022 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: He convinces the billionaire to throw in his money to 1023 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: help him get back the gemstones. Right, So now he's 1024 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: got financial backing. So what does he do. He goes 1025 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: over to a hotel room where Dicky Pearson's waiting and 1026 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 2: he tells him, look, man, I got the money. You 1027 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: tell those loan sharks. I got the money and it's 1028 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 2: twenty five grand. Dicky Pearson degrees, He's like, all right, cool. 1029 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: September second rolls around Johndie MacArthur, Francis Antel. They hit 1030 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: up the first Marine Bank, which he owns, Johnny MacArthur owns. 1031 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: He's like, look, this is the bank president, a future 1032 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 2: by the way, Florida State Senate president. Just you know, coincidentally, 1033 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 2: just saying, you know, billionaires can make power. Anyways, happened, 1034 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: So he and Antel counted out the money right, and 1035 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: small bills, no consecutive serial numbers, just like in the 1036 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: movies Elizabeth. 1037 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: Right. 1038 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: Then Antell takes his money and he shoves fifteen bundles 1039 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 2: into his coat pockets. He doesn't want to have like 1040 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: a money bag. So he's just like walking around like 1041 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 2: the Michelin man with stuff cash right now. First though, 1042 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: he had to meet Dicky Pearson in an elementary school 1043 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: parking lot. So because the reason why is Dicky doesn't 1044 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 2: have the rubies on him, but he's got info on 1045 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: the where the ruby is, and the deal is if 1046 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 2: it works, then the ruby is recovered and they'll give 1047 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: the money. So waiting back at his place is John D. 1048 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: MacArthur waiting by the phone. He gets the phone call. 1049 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 2: It's Francis. He tells him, all right, go to a 1050 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: phone booth at a gas station at West Palm Beach, right. 1051 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: So billionaire goes over there and he's at the newspaper 1052 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 2: editor from the New York Daily News with him and 1053 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: a photographer. He's like, okay, it's on the Florida Turnpike. 1054 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: You can't miss it. So they drive over there. They 1055 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: get to the phone booth and they're they're looking around 1056 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 2: the phone rings. After a couple of minutes like, oh, 1057 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: thank god, it's you know, it's Francis and Dickey. And 1058 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: he's like, okay, did you where is it again? Due 1059 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: looked around on the ground right, he's telling where to look. 1060 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: He's like, I don't see it, right. So the billionaire 1061 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: is telling the editor where to look. The editor's on 1062 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 2: his knees, messing up his suit, and eventually he's like, 1063 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I can't find it. We're asking where, 1064 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 2: and it's like they're you, going back and forth. So wait, 1065 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: I got it. I found it. He looks down. He 1066 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: holds up this giant stolen ruby just sitting there in 1067 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 2: a phone booth and a gas station in Florida for 1068 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: anyone to find, and the photographer snaps his like epic 1069 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 2: shot of him holding up the ruby to the billionaire. 1070 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: Now they still have to decide is this real? Right? 1071 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: Maybe it's So they go back and they have an expert, 1072 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 2: a jewelry expert, waiting at the hotel, and he checks 1073 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 2: it with the loop and he's like, it's real. The 1074 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: billionaires overjoyed, but now they got to go give the 1075 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 2: money to Dicky Pearson. So they hop in the car 1076 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 2: and they go over Howard Johnson's just north of the 1077 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: Miami Ear. Yeah, right, you know, it's time to pay 1078 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 2: Dicky Pearson. So they walk in and they're immediately greeted 1079 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: by that warm, friendly aroma of the extra cheesy mac 1080 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: and cheese of Howard Johnson's. Then they sit down in 1081 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 2: a booth and Dicky Pearson strolls in, cool as he 1082 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 2: can be, wordlessly, just picks up the twenty five grand 1083 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 2: walks out, Dicky. Wow, done deal with Dicky. Right next day, 1084 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: the New York Daily News has their exclusive Here's Ruby, 1085 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 2: and everyone's all excited. Museum of Natural History flies down, 1086 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: they pick up the Gemstones. The DeLong is back on 1087 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 2: display that same week. Right, you can go there today, 1088 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 2: go see it. It is back on display. 1089 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: The Long one. 1090 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's excited now. The charming anti hero of the day, 1091 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: Murph the surf, the guy who at the heart of 1092 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 2: the story, he went on to some truly terrible things. 1093 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 2: So if you go and look into a story, I 1094 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 2: just know that it is the type of stories we 1095 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 2: don't tell. His story, it gets kind of bleak, but 1096 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 2: he does then find the Lord and he brings grace 1097 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 2: and compassion to the lives of thousands of inmates. So 1098 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 2: there is that anyway. Dickie Pearson he gets arrested months 1099 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: after this exchange where he then gets caught and he 1100 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 2: still has some of the ransom money on him and 1101 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 2: he has one due ten years in federal prison. Oh 1102 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: man Hi the Fence. He also gets busted and convicted 1103 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 2: for surprise surprise fencing. Jewels Francis Antel, the freelance writing 1104 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 2: youth car salesman. He wrote a book about his adventures 1105 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 2: as an amateur detective. And look at that, Elizabeth. He 1106 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 2: didn't even have to go to prison to do it 1107 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: time amazing. Gus Hope to all the other writers anyway. 1108 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: Francis Antel's book is called Ransom and Gems, the DeLong 1109 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 2: Ruby Story. It's kind of a mundane title, but not 1110 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,720 Speaker 2: bad book. It's the job done anyway. Marphed the Serf. 1111 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: He did have one last great quote, and it wasn't 1112 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 2: about Primo afghany Oh darn it no, this one. It 1113 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 2: came about after his second stint in the big house. See, 1114 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 2: cautions at school and work aren't enough to help a 1115 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 2: person walk the good path in life, especially when you're 1116 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 2: rehabilitating someone who's gone wayward. And I quote Murph the Surf. 1117 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: He says, if you don't deal with a person's heart, 1118 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: with their soul, all you're doing is passing out band aids. 1119 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Murph the Surf going deep. All right, Murph, anyway, 1120 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: there you go. There's my story of a ridiculous stride 1121 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: and a freelance writer as our hero contest. So it's 1122 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 2: a ridiculous takeaway. 1123 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: Again, planning, you know they did. There was some lack 1124 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: of planning going on. 1125 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: They basically treated it like you know, like you know, 1126 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 2: the surfer, you paddle out and your plan is I'm 1127 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 2: just dropping in. 1128 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: It's kind of jazz jazz. 1129 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 2: They're just like, oh well, I'm in the right spot. 1130 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 3: But also just some I mean, obviously, I think when 1131 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 3: people have these criminal tendencies, they also have impulse control issues. 1132 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 3: And these guys have this serious impulse control of like, 1133 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 3: just because you have the money doesn't mean you have 1134 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 3: to spend it right now in the flat. 1135 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, their blood was like pure adderall it's just 1136 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 2: like pumping anyway, Thanks for listening. 1137 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1138 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 2: You can find us online Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter 1139 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: and Instagram. 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