1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: me your girl Danielle Moody pre recording, well not really, 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: but this week, folks, I'm going to tell you I 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: have some amazing shows that are lined up for you. 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Today is going to be the last one that is 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: not prerecorded, as one of my best friends is getting 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: married and I am in her wedding and so I 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: will be heading there to be there, as you know, 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: have moments of celebrating joy and love and I'm very 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: excited about the opportunity to do so. But don't you 11 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: ever fear. As always, we have some incredible shows lined 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: up for you for the rest of this week. But 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: as always, our good good friend, doctor Jonathan Metzel is 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: in conversation with me today discussing, you know, as always, 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: democratic messaging as we are now less than two weeks 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: to the midterm elections. Now, folks, here's what I want 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: to say about this hall to midterms and the anxiety 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: that I know that I am feeling. If you follow 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, then you know that earlier this week 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I sent out a tweet and I said, you know, 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling great today. I'm feeling a lot of 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: anxiety and I'm feeling a bit hopeless, and those things 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: are true. And you know, like everyone else, I go 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: through valleys and streams in terms of my emotions and 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: reactions to what I'm hearing. And so what did I 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: do after I sent out that tweet yesterday? I turned 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: off the fucking news because frankly, the way in which 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the midterm elections are being covered is one as if 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: it is a completely normal election, right, as if there 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: are just the normal things that are at stake. Once again, 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: this being the fault of mainstream media to actually do 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: its job as the fourth estate, to hold this country 33 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: accountable to itself, to hold our elected officials accountable, and 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: also to navigate what is really rough and treacherous terrain 35 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: that we've never had to navigate before in this country. 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: And once again, much like they did with the emergence 37 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, they are failing. Whether or not they 38 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: are failing on purpose or out of ignorance, I have 39 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: no idea, but either way it's not good. And so 40 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: what I will say is that I know many of 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: you who DM me, who tweet at me, are feeling 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: the same way, are feeling this level of anxiety and 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: stress and are having sleepless nights. And what I am 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: going to say to you is that outside of listening 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: to my show, which I want you to continue to do, 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm telling you to turn off the fucking news, right 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: it is not helpful to watch this horse race that 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: they are portraying where Steve Cornaki and others bring out 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: their big board and let me bring you to this 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: place and let me pick up this random white person 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: on the street to talk about how aggrieved they are 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: and how much they're going to vote for, you know, 53 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: whoever Donald Trump tells them to vote for. It's not 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: helpful because what it does is that it reinforces in 55 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: us that know, regardless of how much work we put in, 56 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: how much we donate, whether or not we show up, 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, it doesn't matter 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: that the numbers are tightening in and with those tightening numbers, 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: our chests they're tightening. What matters, folks, is that you vote, 60 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: plain and simple. What matters is that you get as 61 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: many people to vote and vote for Democrats down the 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: fucking ticket as much as possible. Anything else outside of 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: those actions is nothing but noise and won't do anything 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: to assuage your worries or your fears, or your anxiety. 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: And so I say to you, outside of getting to 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: the polls yourself and getting as many of your friends, 67 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: your colleagues, your family members to the polls as possible, 68 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: volunteering at the polls, offering rides, offering help. Outside of 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: activating in that in real life way, turn off the 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: news because it is going to do nothing other than 71 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: drive you fucking crazy. And I would even offer that 72 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: on election day, plan your election day again, if you 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: have not, if you have early voted, then plan your 74 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: election day doing something good and nourishing for yourself. If 75 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: you work for a corporation or a nonprofit or an 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: outlet that is giving you that day off, go to 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: the polls and volunteer, right. And if you're not going 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: to volunteer, then go out in nature, feel your day 79 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: centered around joy. And do not turn on the television. 80 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Do not go into the twe because outside of the 81 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: in real life things that I have just said, that Ken, 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: you can do sitting down in front of the television 83 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: and watching every conversation, bite sized, you know, punditry on 84 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: what is going to happen, and all of this tea, 85 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: leave reading and all of this nonsense is not going 86 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: to serve you. And I will tell you that, you know, 87 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: in the past, before Trump BT, which is how I 88 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: think that we're going to be, you know, guiding our 89 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: calendar around America moving forward, is that before Trump, I 90 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: loved election Day. It was exciting, it was fun. I'm 91 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: a person that grew up in politics, That's what my 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: degree is in. I used to go to watch parties 93 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it was a time to drink and 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: commiserate and you know, and have a good time and 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, feel like you were actively, you know, participating 96 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: in your democracy. That's no longer the case. It actually 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: feels like, you know, going into dental surgery without any anesthesia. 98 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: So that sounds awful. And I think that for folks 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: who are going to vote on election day, go in vote, 100 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: share your eye voted sticker with your friends and your 101 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: family and your colleagues on social media. Encourage them all 102 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: to go and do the same. To drop what it 103 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: is that they're doing, you know, drop a link that 104 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: says like if you're living in this state, an area, 105 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: or here's where you find out where your polling stations 106 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: have been. Because as we have seen, as what was 107 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: just aired out in Virginia that sixty thousand voters were 108 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: sent to the wrong place. I don't think that that 109 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: was an accident, and neither should you. So outside of 110 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: doing these very real tactical things, watch a movie, Watch 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: ten movies, right, It is most likely then, unless this 112 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: is a blowout on either side, we will not know 113 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: the results until later on in the week. So again, 114 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: sitting on your couch, glued to the screen, glued to 115 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: your phone, glued to your laptop is not going to 116 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: serve you. It's not going to serve your nervous system 117 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. And why do I 118 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: bring up your nervous system, because, folks, we have talked 119 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: about wellness on this show, the ways in which I 120 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: have developed rituals and practices that are keeping me sane 121 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: and steady and grounded. And I encourage you all to 122 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: lean in to those rituals and practices that you have 123 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: developed over the last couple of years, to really dig 124 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: into them, because what happens when our nervous system is 125 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: overworked and overwhelmed is that we allow disease to come 126 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: into our bodies, which causes our cortisol levels to rise, 127 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: which in turn allows disease to enter into our bodies. 128 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: So the more at ease that we can make ourselves 129 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: by virtue of prayer if you're a religious person, meditation 130 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: if you are a spiritual person, walks in nature, if 131 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: washing yourself in nature and just sitting and taking deep 132 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: breaths helps you. Workouts, yoga as a form of workout, walking, running, gardening, 133 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, being with your animals, petting them. All of 134 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: those calming activities, wellness activities are what we need to 135 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: double and triple down on as we prepare our selves 136 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: for election day, but also as we prepare ourselves for 137 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the aftermath of election day. Folks, I'm not going to 138 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: lie to you. I never lie to you on woke 139 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: f and tell you that everything is going to be okay, 140 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: all is going to be well. I think that we 141 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: can learn on an individual way to keep ourselves well, 142 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: but as a larger collective, as a nation, as a democracy. 143 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: My magic eight ball says outlook unclear. So the way 144 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: in which we can treat ourselves and teach ourselves to 145 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: rest to center joy. And again, this is not me 146 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: saying ignore. It is saying that we need to take 147 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: in the news like doses of medicine. Right, you don't 148 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: when the doctor hands you antibiotics, you don't take the 149 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: whole bottle at one time. You take a pill over 150 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: the course of how many days. Well, I'm telling you, 151 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you watch ten minutes and then you 152 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: turn it off, right, Maybe you check in on Twitter 153 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: four five minutes and then you're like, Okay, I'm good. 154 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: We have got to have these balancing tactics to help 155 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: us be able to deal and manage and manage well 156 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: with what is coming our way and what we have 157 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: been dealing with and consuming over the last three years seven. Really, 158 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: when you think about, you know, the beginning of Trumpism, 159 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: and it has only been for me really truly, during 160 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the beginning of COVID have I developed practices that I 161 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: have been doubling and tripling down on that helped me maintain. 162 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: So I'm going to offer something new to you all. 163 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: I have been having trouble sleeping, and you know it's 164 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: my days have gotten a lot busier in terms of 165 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: the work that I do with these shows, both WOKA 166 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: and Democracy Ish, with my writing that I do with 167 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: The Daily Beast, with you know, other work that I 168 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: do to help movement organizations hone their voice and increase 169 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: their impact. So I had sent a note to a 170 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: friend of mine who owns and is one of the 171 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: co owners of an online apothecary called Old Strobe st 172 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: r o B and the O has a line over 173 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: it Strobe Apothecary. And I said, Hey, my schedule has 174 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: ticked up. I'm gonna be traveling more, I am working more, 175 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really trying to stay in balance, and I 176 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: feel myself slipping back into old patterns of behavior that 177 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: serve no one. And she said, Okay, I got you. 178 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put together a box and I'm gonna send 179 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: it your way. Inside of this box, my dear friends, 180 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: and I will pull this up for people who watch 181 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: the video on Patreon. This is Strobe Apothecary's how their teas, 182 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: their loose teas come. And she sent me a wonderful 183 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Rubio's Vanilla Chi tea. She sent me another one that 184 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: I can't get right now, a heartwarming shy tea that 185 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: it was all about healing broken hearts and pain. And 186 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: she sent me another one that is about easing our 187 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: overworked minds. They put together these beautiful tea blends, and 188 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I am a coffee you know now, a coffee drinker. 189 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I used to be a real big tea drinker. And 190 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: what I've started to do is what I've learned is 191 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: that my French press can also work as a tea press. 192 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Who knew everybody knew, I'm making this joke. Everybody knew 193 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: but me, And so now in my evenings, instead of 194 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: going for my cocktail or going for you know, little 195 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: a little smoke, not of cigarettes, but instead of reaching 196 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: for these external things, which there I have no problem 197 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: with any of them. I love a good cocktail and 198 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: all of those things. But I'm trying to figure out 199 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: how to get myself at ease on my own. So 200 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm closing out my day with tea and going through 201 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: this ritual before bed of turning off the electronics, you know, 202 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: either picking up a magazine or a book, but turning 203 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: off the electronics earlier than I normally would because I'm 204 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: working at such a high pace during the day that 205 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: it takes me now longer to wind down. And again, 206 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: these are about being in tune, in tune and aligned 207 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: with our bodies and recognizing that we are not fucking 208 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: machines that we are not meant to grind, we're not 209 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: meant to ignore and quote unquote power through right. And 210 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: so I am listening to my body as it is 211 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: really stressed and recognizing that I need more time to 212 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: wind down and more time to wind up. So I'm 213 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: giving myself that time. I you know, read the directions, 214 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: I put in the tea, I you know, put on 215 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: my kettle, and then I sit right and I poured 216 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: the tea I drink, you know, which is so soothing 217 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: and nice and calming, and then I head in to 218 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: do my normal routine of meditations, storytelling, and trying to 219 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: ease myself into sleep. I'm also recognizing that when I 220 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: am stressed, that I require a good amount of sleep, 221 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: like eight to nine hours. Thankfully, friends, I don't have 222 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: any fucking kids, so I don't have to deal with 223 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: having to manage a bunch of other little people. But 224 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: even if you do, I want us all to learn 225 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: to be more in tuned with what we need and 226 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: then figure out the ways in which we give ourselves 227 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: what it is that we need, because we all to 228 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: be operating in the fullness of ourselves in order to 229 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: navigate the new world that we are living in and 230 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: so that is very real. And I offer that because 231 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, on top of what was also in my 232 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: basket of goodies was sage and Palosanto and you know, 233 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: and crystals that are for clarity and for guidance that 234 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: I can carry with me as I'm now moving around 235 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: more to help level me out. And whether or not 236 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you believe in these things or figure out your own thing, 237 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: I offer what I am using as what I call 238 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: rituals to help me with my routines that are keeping 239 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: me grounded and level in a way that I know 240 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: many of us are swirling right now up in our heads. 241 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: So that is it for what I am using and doing. 242 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: And again, folks, if you have different routines and rituals, 243 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: share them in the comments section, share them with one another, 244 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: share them with me, because I think that the more 245 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: that we can come together as a community that is 246 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: not only about raging against the machine but is also 247 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: about rest and wellness, the better off we will all 248 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: be all right, dear friends. 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Jonathan, 279 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: it was such a pleasure to join your class last week, 280 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't have an opportunity to do 281 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: a debrief and so I'm and I got such good 282 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: feedback from the woke a f audience that they appreciated 283 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: the conversation and the role reversal that we did. So 284 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you a chance to fill us 285 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: in on what some of your students have said. Well, 286 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the Royal Reverse apart Man. Being the host is hard. 287 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: It's hard work. You have to like think on your 288 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: feet and stuff. So I'm glad to be back in 289 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: this chair today. But but no, the students loved it. 290 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: They of course really appreciated your clarity and directness. We're 291 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: spending a whole semester looking at pandemic, which of course 292 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: is changing and it's impact on politics. And so I 293 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: got a million comments that were fantastic. Many were about 294 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: the content, and many were about what does it mean 295 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: to be in the career of the media right now? 296 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: How is the pandemic changing the media? And so I 297 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: just think we should do that again. It was really fun. 298 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it was it was awesome. It 299 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: is very rare that I am interviewed on my own show, 300 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: so so UM, I definitely appreciated it. And I thought 301 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: that their questions, you know, a lot of their questions, um, 302 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, about how to move forward in this time, 303 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and we were really great UM. And the fact that 304 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: you get to be in touch on a regular basis 305 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: with young people who are living through a time that 306 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, frankly none of us could possibly imagine. I 307 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: think is really important to always be in touch with 308 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: how they are thinking and how they are navigating this 309 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: um this time. So that being said, I want to 310 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the New York Times is 311 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: um article that they have done this week, UM, which 312 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: is entitled their America is Vanishing like Trump. They insist 313 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: that essentially they Um, you know they were lied to, right, Um. 314 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, Jonathan, I have not gotten 315 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: through the entirety of this of this article because it 316 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: pissed me off, frankly, and I just brought it up 317 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: in another interview, and you know, people were just like, 318 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm so frigging tired of the New York Times, I'm 319 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: so tired of these deep dives into white grievance. Um. 320 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: So I I what are your thoughts about this continued 321 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: narrative and how helpful or unhelpful it is in the 322 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: grand scheme of how one democrats assess this, you know environment, 323 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: as we are two weeks away from the most consequential 324 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: and probably our last free and fair election in this country, 325 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: and also just this changing idea. So what do you 326 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: make of this consistent narrative? Well, I mean, the thing is, 327 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: like I understand, right, I understand the framework that liberal 328 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: America puts around conservative America because like I wrote a book, 329 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: they did the exact same thing. Right, Dying of Whiteness 330 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: was about the fear of being the demographic minority, the 331 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: fear of kind of status threat, losing privilege, all these 332 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: kind of things we're driving, right, America to make irrational decisions. 333 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: But I would say what that didn't look at was 334 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: how it's not like, oh, this is such a brilliant 335 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: liberal critique that the right never thought about. The right 336 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: was actually using the same method to mobilize people, to 337 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: scare the shit out of them, to get them to 338 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: vote and become more extreme and radicalized and adopt more 339 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: extreme positions. And so the point is, like, the right 340 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: has found this never ending well of resentment that will 341 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: get people to the polls. I mean, that's the main thing, 342 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: and it'll get them to accept positions that we're fifteen 343 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: years ago insane. And the left hasn't done that, right, 344 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: The less hasn't done that. And so I certainly agree 345 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: with the article. And there was another one that I 346 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: helped with in the Washington Post a couple of days 347 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: ago about white America dying from COVID, which is certainly true. 348 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: White America is dying from COVID much more. But the 349 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: point is it's a model of power, right, And so 350 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: the counter to that, in addition to critiquing the right, 351 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: is like, what's the left doing now to mobilize in 352 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: the face of a really existential threat across the country. 353 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: It's not just in right America anymore. You know, the 354 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: New York governor's race is really close, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is 355 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: really close. There's a potential of some really bad stuff. 356 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: And so what's the left version of that that's going 357 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: to get every single person in your under your umbrella 358 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: to help to come to the barricades. And I will 359 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: say that, as horrible as the overt racism and race 360 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: baiting is, that's on the right. Um, they've mobilized the 361 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: ORC army basically that's going to go out and vote, 362 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: and not only that, like stand with guns by ballot 363 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: boxes and everything else. And what's the left version of that? 364 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: We can critique it till we're blue in the face, 365 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: but what's what's our version that's going to reverse that trend? 366 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: And I don't see it, but you know, to be fair, Jonathan, 367 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what could reverse that trend, right Like 368 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I think that if I think that if our idea 369 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: of a pushback beyond critique and beyond pundentry, which obviously 370 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: the both of us do um, but beyond that, the 371 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: power that be in the Democratic Party, the powers that 372 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: actually have the ability to shift to shift message and 373 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: offer policy and offer broad strategy, like there is no 374 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: turning the people who have adopted Trumpism as their flag, 375 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: their mantra, and their cross to die on. We're not 376 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: offering those people an alternative. They're gone. And so I 377 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: think that it isn't about well, what is our version 378 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: of X. It's how are we not telling people very 379 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: directly and clearly and lifting up in their own words 380 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: what these Republicans are saying and using that as are 381 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: like we don't have to craft messaging. This week, Ronda 382 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Santis and Charlie Christ faced off in a debate where 383 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Ronda Santis was talking entirely about white comfort and not 384 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: wanting to offer white people reality in the formation of 385 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: this country because it will provide them with too much guilt. 386 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: Why is the Why don't Democrats take that SoundBite and 387 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: play it and say you should care about what your 388 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: kids are learning and not learning, who is teaching them 389 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and not You know, you have them talking about, well, 390 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: we want to get rid of entitlements, Medicare, social Security. 391 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: You got the whole of Florida that is over the 392 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: age of sixty five, So why aren't we messaging to 393 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: them that says that what afforded you the ability to 394 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: buy this retirement home or enter into this retirement village, 395 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Go and dry up come twenty twenty five if you 396 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: allow for Republicans to take control, because guess what they're 397 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: not going to protect what is allowing you to exist 398 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: now that you are retired. I mean, when a perfect 399 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: example of this as a crime right because crime, of 400 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: course is real if there is a real crime right now. 401 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: And also crime is being manipulated, exaggerated, blasted out to 402 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: people in the suburbs who don't really care that somebody 403 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: got pushed on the subway in New York except that 404 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: it reinforces their stereotype of liberal black America coming for 405 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: you and all that kind of stuff. And so the answer, 406 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: the Democrat's answer very often was like, well, the crime 407 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: is not as bad there, you know, over exact the station. 408 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: But it's totally the wrong response, Like the right response 409 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: would have been to co opt the issue of crime 410 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: and then come out with a crime Reduction Act or 411 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: something like that that use that language proactively to put 412 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: the other guys on the defensive and make them respond 413 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: to your position using the language of the stuff they 414 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: care about. I just feel like we spend so much 415 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: time refuting all their mumbo jumbo, and the thing is 416 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: that it doesn't work that way. And so I think, like, like, 417 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: we didn't realize until it feels like three days ago 418 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: that crime was a big issue, even though it really 419 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: is a big issue for a lot of people. And 420 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: the answer isn't to critique their formulation of crime. It's 421 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: to use the rhetoric of crime to change the conversation 422 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: onto terms that are favorable for you. Now, it's easy 423 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: for us to sit here and say they could just 424 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: change the message. Of course, in the real world, people 425 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: are being bombarded with a zillion different, you know, messages 426 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: across multiple platforms. It's not just like putting it on 427 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: NBC the way it used to be. But I will 428 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: say that we never put them on the defensive using 429 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: their language to change the narrative. We never do that, 430 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing it again. I mean, I'm the most 431 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: worried about the governor race in New York right because, 432 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, Zoldians using the NRA playbook of scaring the 433 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: crap out of white people about black crime in the city. 434 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: And the answer isn't, well, the crime isn't as bad 435 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: as it was twenty years ago, which is what the 436 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: Democrats are saying. It's to take the mantra of crime 437 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: be proactive, and then reformulate an aggress of message that 438 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: forces them to respond, you know, why aren't you down 439 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: with blah blah blah and so. So I don't know. 440 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: I feel like, actually, Chris was pretty good at doing 441 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. I thought that he surprised the 442 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: hell out of me. I'll tell you, yeah, I thought 443 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: it was pretty good. The things like we're figuring this 444 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: out like now with ten days to go, and I 445 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: feel like we haven't been doing this enough, anywhere near enough, 446 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: you know. But the reality is, you know, unlike us 447 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: who live and breathe in politics and know every movement 448 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: of every new policy that is being released or pushed 449 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: back on by the Republican Party, is that most people 450 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: don't tune in until around now, right, like most like 451 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: average Americans. Thankfully, there have been over eight million ballots 452 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: that have been cast, right, and that those that are 453 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: saying that are following the election in the way of 454 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: what's been cast and whose early voting starts right now 455 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: is the fact that we are the numbers are good, right, 456 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: We just don't know and won't know if it is 457 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: the Republicans that have motivated their people to come out early, 458 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: but the trend has been that it's the Democrats that 459 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: come out early. It's us that go will always go 460 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: to early voting and do the mail in ballots and 461 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: do these things. And so I don't want to just 462 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: follow the trends of what the polls are saying, because 463 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: for Democrats, it's not a motivator to say that we 464 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: are behind, right, we have to walk that fine line 465 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: of saying that. To your point, these races are tightening 466 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: in a way that they shouldn't be tight right, particularly 467 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: in New York. But I'm also not gonna I'm not 468 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: going to hang my hat on every goddamn pole that 469 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: comes out because in the last couple of years they 470 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: have been wrong. Right. So the question really is what 471 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: are Democrats voting for? That's the narrative, and it can't 472 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: be I'm voting for saving America from the Republicans. You 473 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: actually have to vote for something, and I don't think that. 474 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: I really don't think the Biden administration has crafted that. 475 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand like it's complicated right now, but 476 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't think voting against Republicans is a strong enough platform. 477 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: And so what gets people to the polls is voting 478 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: for something. A lot of times, I mean also SCAREDO 479 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: Trump and stuff like that, but I think that you're 480 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: voting for bodily autonomy, You're voting for your right to vote. 481 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: You're voting for student loan debt relief that is being 482 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: blocked by Republicans that Democrats, to your point, are not 483 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: using the fact that it has been blocked by a 484 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: group of Republican governors and holding that up to young 485 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: people and saying we're out here trying to help you, 486 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, and look and here's this clip. They blocked it, right, 487 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: so we need your help to have the numbers to 488 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: override it. Like that's the kind of pivot that I 489 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: think that the both of us want and need at 490 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: this moment, Right, Um, Jonathan, you know, quick pivot from 491 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: from mid terms which are breathing down our next because 492 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: with a couple of minutes that we have left with you, Um, 493 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: COVID is not done. I know more people now, Jonathan 494 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: that have contracted COVID than I did last year and 495 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: the year before. Give us an update as to where 496 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: we are and what folks need to be doing as 497 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: we had head first into winter and what I believe 498 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: is going to be another COVID winter. Well, two main 499 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: things the virus is meet eating like beyond anybody's world 500 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: is imagination. It's evading a lot of the immunity that 501 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: we built up through vaccines and through just her stuff. 502 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: But it's it's kind of going out the window. So 503 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: what's happening in a lot of places, Um, you know, 504 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: it seems to be a rapid rise and then and 505 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: then it's coming down a little bit. But people seem 506 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: to be getting sick in places like Germany and Second Pore. 507 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: So now is it's a good time to play play? 508 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: It's safe if you can, you know, mass and handwashing 509 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: for the next couple of months for sure. And I 510 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like Republicans taking over is going 511 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: to be a great thing for the virus from the 512 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: virus perspective. Also, so you know, we're doing this while 513 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: we have a quasi semi functional CDC. But just the 514 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: infuriating thing for me is that there's a new there's 515 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: a new version of what virus protection is going to 516 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: look like. I think it's almost certainly going to be 517 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: some kind of nasal spray kind of thing that blocks 518 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: the virus, the virus from you know, from entering the 519 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: respiratory track. China and Russia are way ahead of us 520 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: and developing this because our Congress has blocked any funds 521 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: for for stuff, and so I just think that the 522 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: funding issue for American science is going to be a 523 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: major issue also. And quick, last thing, there's a new 524 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: booster that is out. Is this is this booster something 525 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: that people who are still on the fence about getting. 526 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: What is your response to that get some kind of 527 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: booster for sure? I mean, just we have three almost 528 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: three years of data now that shows that getting boosted 529 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: is protective. New booster, old booster. They look like they're 530 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: roughly the same, to be honest. But I think that again, 531 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: we're in for a shit winter, and I think doing 532 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: everything you possibly can right now is the best approach. 533 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Doctor Jonathan Matzel as always deeply appreciate your time and 534 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: your insights. As you're traveling today. We appreciate you, and 535 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: we will unpack more next week. All right, take everybody? 536 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on woke 537 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: A f As always power to the people, and to 538 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: all the people power get woke and stay woke as fuck.