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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world. Then welcome to the Nodungks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, October eleventh, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeiths here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews. Before we get to talk

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Speaker 1: about the NBA. What a game one of the WNBA

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Speaker 1: Finals last night. Holy moly links coming back from eighteen down,

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Speaker 1: getting into overtime, pulling out the victory. Hell yeah, what

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Speaker 1: a game. It is one of the best games across

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Speaker 1: any sport.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome season multiple fifteen point come in the

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Speaker 3: same game. So cool that Minnesota was actually able to

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Speaker 3: like look completely stunned in the first quarter and come

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Speaker 3: back twice. They've tried to throw it away at the end,

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Speaker 3: just like the Liberty did. Ryan Ruco hit us.

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Speaker 1: With the The action is intoxicating, and I have to

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Speaker 1: agree part of my lexicon. Now the action certainly was

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Speaker 1: intoxicating last night. Incredible game obviously, and I'd like to

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Speaker 1: hear now it's gonna next season go from a best

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Speaker 1: of five WNBA finals to the best of seven.

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Speaker 2: Sure we like that.

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Speaker 4: More basketball, It's always better.

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Speaker 2: What a game.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into our NBA Award predictions, just a

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Speaker 1: reminder if you didn't catch them, watch them or listen

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Speaker 1: to them. We did two of our NBA season preview

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Speaker 1: shows earlier this week on Monday and Wednesday, and they

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Speaker 1: are us going through every team and debating the over

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Speaker 1: under team win total, doing our leans, and at the

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Speaker 1: end of those podcasts doing our locks. So go check

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Speaker 1: those out if you haven't already, And thanks everybody that

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Speaker 1: has watched or listened. But this is part three our

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Speaker 1: season preview.

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Speaker 2: What do you like the leaning and locking? I like it.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking those shows are not lean, they're chunky.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I feel like we're talking for forty

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Speaker 3: five minutes, and then I look at somehow we've gone

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Speaker 3: for over one hundred minutes on all of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are like ninety minute shows, those over under podcasts.

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Speaker 1: This one. It's gonna come in a clean sixty.

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Speaker 3: Oh take the under.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling it.

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Speaker 3: The more tap dance you can do at the top.

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Speaker 4: Help.

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Speaker 1: So okay, let's get to our first major award. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with They're grinding daddy of them all, the most

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Speaker 1: Valuable Player. We're gonna show you, generally the top five

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Speaker 1: favorites in each of the major NBA awards. So here

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Speaker 1: they are for everybody on YouTube. I will read them

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Speaker 1: for the podcast listener. Luka once again the favorite to

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Speaker 1: win MVP plus three fifty. You got Yo Kitch behind

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Speaker 1: him at plus four to fifty, SGA right there with

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Speaker 1: Yo Kich at plus four to fifty, Embeed at plus

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Speaker 1: nine hundred, and then Giannis comes in here on our

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Speaker 1: top five board at plus one thousand. Let's for all

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Speaker 1: of these like, make your pick, talk it out, give

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Speaker 1: your reasoning, and then if we want, we can do

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Speaker 1: like a dark horse, pick someone that's not on that board,

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Speaker 1: that's maybe further down.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that don't make it. That'll make it long,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll just start playing what about this guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but with this one, there is no what about

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Speaker 2: this guy it's going to Luca for the first time

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Speaker 2: for this guy, a guy who we know is going

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Speaker 2: the league six seasons, five time All Star, five time

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Speaker 2: first team All NBA. This guy's going to it, and

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Speaker 2: especially after making an appearance in the finals, I think

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Speaker 2: who was a monkst that one two three last year.

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Speaker 2: It was Jokic, Shay and Luca last year, and I

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Speaker 2: If we're we're making this pick right now, eight months

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Speaker 2: Jokic said that they got bounced in the second round,

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Speaker 2: So I think it's going to him finally over a guy, yeah,

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Speaker 1: SGA did beat out Luca for the MVP in the

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Speaker 1: NBA dot Com GM survey, winning forty percent of the

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Speaker 1: to our guy John Schuman doing great work once again.

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Speaker 2: But that was also very weird because jims were asked

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Speaker 2: which player forces opposing coaches to make the most adjustments,

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Speaker 2: Luca by far more than anybody else. And also, who's

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Speaker 2: the best point guard in the NBA Luca over Shay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's not forget like they could both have

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Speaker 1: well and gets one or not. But Luca, look, it

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Speaker 1: makes sense to pick him. It does feel like one

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Speaker 1: Why not this year, you know, with some new players

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Speaker 3: there was definitely a little Luca is the best player

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Speaker 3: it's understandable that he would be at the top of

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Speaker 3: the odds. I got burned a couple of times picking Luca.

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe the first two times that he was

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Speaker 3: a favorite for this award. So I'm personally gonna sit

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Speaker 3: it out until he wins one. But he'll win one

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Speaker 3: at some point. Maybe this is the year. Like he

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Speaker 3: was pretty close to averaging a thirty point triple double

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Speaker 3: last season, he could easily do it again this year.

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Speaker 3: I think the Mavericks take a little step forward offensively,

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Speaker 3: I think, if I'm looking at the board that we have,

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Speaker 3: would be the pick for me. But I'm going off

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Speaker 3: the board for my MVP pot Okay. I like Jalen

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Speaker 3: Brunson lost fourteen hundred seventh in odds, there's a chance

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Speaker 3: he could have a twenty seven point per game seven

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Speaker 3: assists fifty to forty ninety season. He was close last

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Speaker 3: year twenty nine seven and four, shot forty eight from

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Speaker 2: I think he could get a little better.

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Speaker 3: With Carl Anthony Towns being the main five there bridges

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Speaker 3: of driving lanes for Jalen Brunson. He'll obviously still be

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Speaker 3: He probably also gets the New York bump.

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Speaker 1: He gets a little bit of bump for being a

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Speaker 1: good guy and giving back one hundred million dollars, which

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Speaker 1: then allows them to bring in his friends and then

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Speaker 1: trade away one of his friends and bring in another guy.

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Speaker 3: Who's friends with the GM. It worked out nice. He's

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Speaker 3: getting the friendship bump.

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Speaker 4: In the MVP.

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Speaker 3: It seems a little unlikely that Jalen Brunson could replicate

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Speaker 3: last season he finished fifth in MVP. But I think

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Speaker 3: the Knicks will be better this season. I think be

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Speaker 3: excited to vote for a Nick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but will his numbers be as good? I know

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Speaker 2: But if cats shooting, if mckel bridges you shooting, are

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Speaker 2: reason why his numbers were that good was because Randall

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Speaker 2: if they're injuries, sure he gets every shot, but I

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Speaker 2: just wonder with those guys in there, he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: Couldn't his numbers though, dip and the Knicks win the

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Speaker 1: and like that would help his chances win MVP, like

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Speaker 1: the league record wise, Brunson will get the love for

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Speaker 1: that team. That's no doubt. Where you know, poor Tatum,

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Speaker 3: like literally a fifty to forty ninety season and they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how much record matters because Shay will

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Speaker 2: the question is how many games are the MAVs gonna

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Speaker 2: the just the Western Conference help him out just because

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Speaker 2: a I don't know if an OKC gets up there

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Speaker 2: that are like under fifty wins that didn't help them.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if it helps Luca just because he

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Speaker 2: is Luka Dontrich. Now, I don't know how many games

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Speaker 2: the Mas we're gonna win, are gonna win because I

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Speaker 2: I'm picking Luca to win. So I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: a weird one. Maybe it's one of those years like

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Speaker 2: a Russell Westbrook that's a lower seed. But this dude

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Speaker 2: is the guy who's going to have the best numbers.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have better numbers than Shae across the

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Speaker 2: board like he did last year. He was the leading scorer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he rebounds, Oh yeah, yes, this everybody so

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Speaker 2: across the board. He's gonna have the numbers. It's all

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Speaker 2: what the voters are in the mood for.

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Speaker 1: Really, when it comes down to it, well, I'm picking Shay.

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Speaker 4: I'll back SGA.

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Speaker 1: You got Luca, you got Brunson, I'll go SGA to

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Speaker 1: win his first MVP. He has earned consecutive first team

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Speaker 1: All NBA Odds nods, two top five MVP finishes, obviously

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Speaker 1: Shay has averaged I'm taking the last two seasons and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the ant man for me, who finished seventh

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Speaker 2: His numbers will go up from last year because Cat

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you'll go ant Man.

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Speaker 3: John Morant Tephan odds plus thirty five hundred. Basically, you

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very funny when he saw a

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Speaker 1: You're on there because you haven't played it a long time,

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Speaker 1: so respectfully, back to you, sir, my dark horse pick.

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Speaker 4: It's too low.

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Speaker 2: But Pelo, when they make the announcements, all NBA go

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Speaker 4: Wow, interesting, Yeah, that'd be true. Is that true? Derek Rowse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek Rose was an All NBA before he won.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's shocking because you think, well, he's Westbrook. No,

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Speaker 3: Him Harden, No way. He was way over twenty five

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Speaker 1: Curry was under twenty first MVP season, shocking, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Will he maintain that level?

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Speaker 1: Any chance for Jason Tatum to get this at plus

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: Okay, those are our picks for MVP. Obviously, play along

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Speaker 1: here in the stream. Team leave your selections in the

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Speaker 1: dunk Zinc either on Twitter or IG. Okay, Most Improved Player,

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Speaker 1: let's go to this one. Here are your favorites according

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Speaker 1: to bet MGM webin Yama plus seven hundred. What are

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Speaker 4: Disgusting?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kaminga plus one thousand, Mobiley plus eleven hundred,

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Speaker 1: Josh Kitty plus fourteen hundred. There now on the Bulls,

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Speaker 1: plus fourteen hundred. Trey, let's start with you. Is it

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Speaker 3: Or do you have another name and it is someone

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Speaker 1: You thought it was going, josh Y. Don't be crazy, man,

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Speaker 1: you saw the clip. Just like everybody close out, my man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It just disgusts me to see Victor webbit yell, that's

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Speaker 3: I had to go in and check. Do you think

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Speaker 3: a number one draft pick has ever won Most Improved Player?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No, insec not in their second year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Never nervous Pervis Ellison the only I think number one

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Speaker 3: Some guys have won it in their second year. Gilbert Arenas,

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Speaker 3: then was awesome his second year, scoring a ton of points,

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Speaker 3: But I like Jalen Johnson. He did have a real

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Speaker 3: But he's wearing ankle braces this season, so his feet

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Speaker 3: I just think there's a little bit more opportunity there

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Speaker 3: are like Jalen Johnson players right now because he's really big,

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Speaker 3: just think it'll be a potential. Like I don't think

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Speaker 3: because it's hard for the Hawks to get All Stars

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Speaker 3: have to be an All Star to win Most Improved Player.

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Speaker 3: I think seven of the last eight seasons was a

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Speaker 3: me mip Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that ten point increased last year, up to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like the nerds, the basketball geeks were like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, and you know, and.

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00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 1: The numbers bump up a little bit, maybe they surprise

437
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: people as well, and they're a little better.

438
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 4: They'll you know, they'll just be five hundred.

439
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 2: He will be the hawk second best player. Unfortunately, got

440
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 2: hurt last year and there was.

441
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 3: Some hope, there was a bit of hope here in Atlanta.

442
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 2: That that team was going to be good when they

443
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,200
Speaker 2: started eight and seven, But then bank he went out

444
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 2: and the team just true, That team plummeted big time.

445
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, he had sixteen and nine last year. He's

446
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 2: a very very, very good player. He'll clearly be the

447
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 2: second best player for me. I'm going with the guy

448
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: on that list as well. It's Evan Mobley because everybody

449
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 2: just sees him as just this defensive player, which he's amazing,

450
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,719
Speaker 2: receiving third the third most Defensive Player of the Year

451
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 2: votes last year. But he is a very good offensive player,

452
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: and I know Kenny Atkinson, head coach there, is gonna

453
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 2: let him break out. People need to know this guy

454
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: needs to be unleashed, and I think he will be

455
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: because his usage rate has just been the same every

456
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: single season of his career. His first three seasons it's

457
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: been the same. But Kenny Atkinson has come out and said,

458
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 2: I am letting this guy go. If he gets the break,

459
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: if he gets the board, he's got to lead that break.

460
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 2: If he's got five out on offense, he should run

461
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: that offense. He should run a pick and roll. He's

462
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: said that they're gonna unleash him in a lot more ways.

463
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Last year he was tied for one hundred and forty

464
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: fifth in the league in terms of usage rate. He

465
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: just has to go up. He's a modern player. He's

466
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: so good. Uh, you know, it's a similar guy to

467
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson in a way, these these long guys who

468
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: are so good and so talented needs to be unleashed.

469
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 2: If they've got five shooters out, then this guy just

470
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: needs to be just run free. Heaven, just run free.

471
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: His his offense should be there, he should be way

472
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Speaker 2: out this year.

473
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 4: Mobley, I feel like he's one of your favorite players.

474
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 4: He's a great player.

475
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Speaker 2: Yes I do. I talk about him quite frequently.

476
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 4: But you go to bat for him quite a bit.

477
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just the team that's built around.

478
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: If Donovan Mitchell allows that to happen, than Evin Mobley

479
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: could be that guy. His usage rate needs to go

480
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: down a little bit. And I think he did re

481
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: sign with Cleveland knowing that we need to get him

482
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: and Garland going. And so it's it's up to Mobiley

483
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: to be better. It's up to Atkinson to run through him.

484
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: But it's also up to Mitchell to say, all right,

485
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 2: this guy's good, this guy's this guy. I think this

486
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: guy's as good as that guy on that show, on

487
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: that podcast, that test Mause guy. I think he's that good.

488
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, interesting, Yeah, you love Mobley and Mobley also

489
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: loves you.

490
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 4: On No Dougs. Yeah, I love that guy.

491
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 2: YEA.

492
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: So part of your equation here for most Improved for Mobile,

493
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 1: I assume is like an All Star season too, to

494
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: fit sort of that bill that Trey was saying, which

495
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: is definitely possible.

496
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard for Evan Mobley because he's been around

497
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: for a few years. He again, he was fourth and

498
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year last year. Like he is,

499
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: he's known for being a very good player. He keeps

500
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: on getting Defensive Player of the Year votes. Yeah, I'm

501
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: not sure how much his numbers increase. Again, when when

502
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: you say that he's going to be playing with Donovan

503
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 2: Mitchell and Darius Garland and Jared Allen who are going

504
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: to score a lot, Well, numbers go up enough, I

505
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: don't know. But the most improved, it's just it's all

506
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: about the narrative. They have to be great and so

507
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: that's part of it.

508
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: My most Improved player pick. I guess I'm thunder pilled.

509
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: Give me Jalen Williams, give me j Dubb. He has

510
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: the sixth best odds to win this award. He's plus

511
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred, So that's why he wasn't on that board

512
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: we showed you but seventy one games last season, he

513
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: averaged nineteen four five assists per game.

514
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 4: He improved his.

515
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: Three point shooting a lot from two years ago to

516
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: last year, thirty six percent to forty three percent. So

517
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: hopefully you can stay above the forty percent mark here.

518
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 1: But I like that he improved as a playmaker. He

519
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: increased his assist percentage, lowered his turnover percentage, had a

520
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: higher usage rate, so asked to do more and was

521
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: still efficient. He became like a closer for them too.

522
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: We talked about him multiple times last year, like took

523
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: over games at times and got the thunder a win.

524
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: So I'll go with him, gonna be like, those are

525
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 1: good numbers, he needs to bump them up a little bit.

526
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: A part of this, though, is I'm banking. I guess

527
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: on maybe he would be the second All Star selected

528
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 1: with SGA. He's sort of battling chet holmgrin. I mean

529
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: that that could get a little difficult for him to

530
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: win this award. But I love this stat as well

531
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: from SI Jillen Williams had a twenty one percent usage

532
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: rate in about thirteen hundred minutes with Josh Giddy. But

533
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: when Giddy wasn't out there and it was about eight

534
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: hundred minutes. Jillen Williams. His usage percentage was like twenty

535
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: nine percent. Like he's the second guy, he's the second playmaker.

536
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: So now with Getty gone, you know, maybe there's a

537
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: bit of a role change there that could benefit him

538
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: his numbers and his chance to get some more love

539
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: for this. And I just think people love this guy too.

540
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: So if they're good, they're a sixty win team, like

541
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people think they'll be knocking on the

542
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: door of then I think he could win it.

543
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: Give me j dub I agree, that's a pick. Yeah,

544
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: that was my dark horse, was Joe because Josh Gidty

545
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: is gone. They basically had the same usage rate last

546
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: year to finish plays for that team. So this guy

547
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: is just gonna be rocketing up with Harnteresting out there

548
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: and Caruso out there. He's gonna be allowed to finish plays. Now,

549
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: he's kind of slim because he's already voted. He's fourth

550
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: last year, he's on a lot of ballots. Yeah, so

551
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: that's a problem. And will his numbers go up? They

552
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: will because he's averaging nineteen last year he had great

553
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: efficiency four and a half assists he could be an

554
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: All Star. I think he's more likely to be an

555
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: All Star. Yeah, most improved I.

556
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: Sort of do too.

557
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: I do too.

558
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: I also saw like you were saying, you usually have

559
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: to become an All star tray. The other trend for

560
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: most improved players over the last decade or so is

561
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: like you have to almost increase your points per game

562
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: by like four and a half, you know, four to

563
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: five points more per game than you had prior. I mean,

564
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: what did I say he had averaged nineteen basically last year?

565
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: Could he average twenties? I guess he could. I think

566
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: that's maybe a bit of a stretch. I think he'll

567
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: just be better as a player. I don't know if

568
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: his numbers scoring numbers go up that high. But give

569
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: me j Dubb. So you have him as a dark horse, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

570
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: who's your dark horse pick?

571
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: Do I have a dark horse pick? Mine would have

572
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: been Jaylen Williams. But I also think it's kind of

573
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: ridiculous that he's not in the top five odds.

574
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be.

575
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 3: Above Giddy Yeah at the very least. Yeah, I guess

576
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: I'll hop on the jadeb.

577
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got I've got one more. Give me Kid

578
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Cunningham as a super dark horse pick, I would take, Well,

579
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm playing the gonna be an All Star thing.

580
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with that.

581
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham has much more of a chance to be

582
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: an All Star than Jade and Ivy, and at plus

583
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: three thousand, these are very This is a dark horse pick.

584
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Man don't do this, but he does have good numbers,

585
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: and if his team is actually a competent basketball team,

586
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: then I could see the narrative being formed of what

587
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: this would be his fourth year. I know it doesn't

588
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: feel like it because he hasn't played a lot at times,

589
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: But Kate Cunningham, that's my dark horse. I might be

590
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: all right, let's keep it going here where we go

591
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: on Rookie of the Year. Let's talk about the young buys,

592
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: that big young buy. Zach Edy.

593
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: He scares me.

594
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: Just look at it, just looks like I don't know.

595
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: I posted a picture of a twenty foot tall Michael

596
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: Myers and playful yes, and people responded to me right away,

597
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: Zach Edy.

598
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, got a Halloween vibe to it. Okay, so

599
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: we got a lot of names on this board because

600
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: we had a big tie at the end, but Zachar

601
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Eady is the favorite twin Rookie of the year plus

602
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: five hundred, Reed Shepherd with the Rockets plus six hundred,

603
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: Zachary rishache At plus nine hundred for the Hawks, and

604
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: then a tie here with tar Boozellis Castle and Bub

605
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Carrington Wizards all plus one thousand. So task get us

606
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: started here. Obviously, Webb Yama ran away with Rookie the

607
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: Year last year, but this one feels much more wide open.

608
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: Oh it is open.

609
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: Who are you picking?

610
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm picking Zachary resa Schet of the Atlanta Hawks. Did

611
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: we see his preseason debut.

612
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: He looks so good.

613
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: One gay, great one game, you look great.

614
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: But he also looked refined. He doesn't look like a

615
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: nineteen year old out there his first basket, that zero

616
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: step in transition. He just takes the time to see, Oh,

617
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: this guy's with, this guy's running in front of me.

618
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he just looks developed to be able to

619
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: do that. And then you know there's all the fancy stuff. Yeah,

620
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: drop the ball between your legs for a pass and fancy,

621
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: but he just he's a ballplayer. He knows, okay, somebody's

622
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: running at me. At the three point line. I'll past this,

623
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 2: but in transition, he'll take that three. Like he'll do

624
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: anything out there. He can cut, he can shoot threes.

625
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: He's just good, and I know he's going to play.

626
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: If you look at those other guys up there, like

627
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: Zach Edy read Shepherd. I don't think it's a good pick.

628
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: At because you just don't think the minutes will be

629
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: there now.

630
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna play every single game read

631
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: Shepherd read Shepherd. Look who he's playing behind. He's playing

632
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: behind Fred Vandley, who played thirty seven minutes a game

633
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: last year. He's playing behind Jalen green Ye, who plays

634
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: backup point guard at times. He was a backup point

635
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: guard for like five minutes per game last year. And

636
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: there's so many guys that just get moved to the

637
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: guard spot, like Dylan Brooks played guard spot minutes. I

638
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: mean Thompson played guard spot minutes. He's gonna play even more. Yeah,

639
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: take played more minutes. Like there's there's so many guys.

640
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: I think Cam Whitmore is gonna play more minutes of

641
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: the guard. I don't think he's part of that rotation that.

642
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: Is like trying to win the now, which Reid gives them.

643
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: You see his first preseason gain, though I want enough

644
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: minutes to win will be difficult, and Resae is not

645
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: starting for this team right now, but I think he

646
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: will be at some point of this season because he's

647
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: playing behind DeAndre Hunter, who gets.

648
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: Hurt all that time. Yeah, he's missed. I went and

649
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: did the math. He's missed a third of his games

650
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: essentially since being in the NBA, and they may trade

651
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: him at some point. There's going to be in that

652
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: starting lineup at some point of this year. And again

653
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: like will Zach Edie start for sure? Yes, at some point, Yeah,

654
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: it looks like it could. Those are the two that

655
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking at.

656
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: Yah, yeah, okay, you're going to though.

657
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, also tough to tell apart him and Jill and

658
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Johnson when they're both out there.

659
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: I saw a picture of Trey Young, Resa and Jalen

660
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: Johnson like lined up height wise, and people said it

661
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: was a Pokemon evolution chart. They all look like very

662
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: similar hairstyles and.

663
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: Facial hairstyle when they're just slightly bigger and buffer as

664
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: they get on it's like Charizar to Charmander or whatever.

665
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: And then and.

666
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Jilla Johnson is he is he number one? Reshach number ten?

667
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

668
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Right, they got the ones that they got to start them,

669
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: they should will be okay. Also, I can't get over

670
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: like I saw even the Hawks like share a photo

671
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: with like way to go Zach or something, and seeing

672
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Zach spelled with two c's.

673
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't like it. It's mind blowing. Yeah, what the.

674
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Hell, I've never seen this z A C. H. Wait,

675
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: it goes Zach.

676
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be just z A C.

677
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree, they're.

678
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Keeping it and they're still calling Zachary. I was waiting

679
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: for Bob Rathmund to say Zach with the move. I

680
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: was waiting for it Zach because I wanted to be immediate,

681
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: the first Zachary and then a history still Zachary right now?

682
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you're going I like that.

683
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: You've never been another Zachary.

684
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: No, Wow, that's a surprising.

685
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean maybe their given name Zach sign it like

686
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: Zach Lavine may have been Zachary when they signed.

687
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: They never go by it.

688
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: They never go by it. Not a not a man

689
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: in the NBA history has gone by it.

690
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: But I like that Zachary Levine. It's a business like

691
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: season for him. This year, Zachary. Okay, so you're going

692
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: with the number one pick.

693
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they're all overlooked everybody.

694
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: He's the most over one, number one, like nobody cares.

695
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: It feels like he's like he must have went late

696
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: in the first round, right, No, he was a number

697
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: one pick. Okay, who you're back? And I know you're

698
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: high on Recess as well, but.

699
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think it's gonna be one of the

700
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: top three here, Edie, Shepherd or recessche because they all

701
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: have opportunity. Like, I actually think that re Shepherd is

702
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: gonna play quite a bit. It wouldn't surprise me if

703
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: Van Bleid is traded by the end of the season.

704
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: And there.

705
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: I just think that the rock are going to want

706
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: to see what all of their younger guys can do.

707
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: And Shepherd looks like a guy you don't want to

708
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: keep off the floor for too long. He's gonna be good.

709
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: But I also think that only Edie is locked in

710
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: as a starter amongst these three, and you know, the

711
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: Grizzlies and the Rockets and the Hawks, they could all

712
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: be at least over five hundred I think, so they're

713
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: at least going to be in the mix as competitive teams.

714
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 3: I just think Edia has the most defined and like

715
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: from day one role. So I don't really like taking

716
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: the favorite, but I don't think he was the favorite

717
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: when I first said I was going to take Ead

718
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: back during the summer.

719
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: That's right.

720
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's already changed for him because he looks so

721
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: good and he looks like he will have a big

722
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: role on that. Talking about to.

723
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Me, give me Zach Edy a stat line for this season,

724
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: what would we what do you think would get him

725
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: a Rookie of.

726
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: The Year win? What do you what? Picture it?

727
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: Give me sixteen points per game okay, ten rebounds on

728
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: sixty five percent shooting.

729
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Okay, and maybe two blocks or something like that.

730
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, maybe, yeah. I think Jared Jackson Junior

731
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: blocks more the shots. He maybe he'll lead the league

732
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: in box outs though.

733
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

734
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

735
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: And screen assists, yeah, oh yeah, you know he's going

736
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: to be It's him and go Bear for a screen

737
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: assist leader. I think, thanks here, I'm going with you.

738
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm taking it's between Recesher and Zach Edie. But I

739
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: think Edie just having the starting role there on a

740
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: team that's like, you know, won barely any games. Now

741
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: they get their star guys back, Yeah, they could win

742
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: forty five games. They could, you know, obviously even more

743
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: some people think so I think he'll play a part

744
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: in that. You know, he's shooting the three ball too.

745
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Looks comfortable there from the big guy and a good

746
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: old Canadian boy. So you know you got to play

747
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: that card dark horse Rookie of the year pick.

748
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: I got Rob Dillingham, so we all have a Rob.

749
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, a great, great dark horse because you're like a

750
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: lot of stuff would have to happen for it to

751
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: be Rob Dillingham. Conley would have to go out basically,

752
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: and they'd have to elevate dilling Ham. And he does good.

753
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the thing he's got going for him

754
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: there is commonly may not play a lot, So he's

755
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: gonna come off the bench, he's I think he's gonna shoots.

756
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: I think he is a better player already offensively than

757
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: Niki Alexander Walker. I know that's that's a lot to say,

758
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: but this this dude is just so good. So I

759
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: think he's gonna shoot more than on Minnesota. He's just

760
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: got the touch, the floaters, the three point shot and

761
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards has already said he reminds me of myself.

762
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: He likes it. He likes it because he's super duper confident.

763
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: As far as all the highlights your ig highlights is

764
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: gonna be this guy. I think that that helps Jerky.

765
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: He's fun and his odds are plus two thousand for

766
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year here, so probably yeah, yeah, down

767
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: the board. Okay, so we all have the same guy

768
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: in that one. Let's keep it moving here we might

769
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: hit this tight hour six Man of the Year odds

770
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: again by way of bet MGM Malik Monk who should

771
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: have won it last year, he's the favorite plus six hundred.

772
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso now on the Thunder plus nine hundred, nasried

773
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: drop your nas reads in the chat. Could he go

774
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: back to back for six Man of the Year he

775
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: won it last year? He's plus eleven hundred. Hi May

776
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Hawka is junior of the Heat same plus eleven hundred odds,

777
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: and then Dante DiVincenzo on the Wolves now plus fourteen hundred,

778
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: so uh TK. Could Naz Reid pull a lou will

779
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: a Debt left shrimp a Kevin McHale and go back

780
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: to back six man.

781
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: Of the Year.

782
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: Nicely done.

783
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: I'm scrolling down.

784
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I got it. Yeah, Kevin McHale,

785
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: well done, well done. Indeed, I guess it's possible. But

786
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: everybody wants Nas Reid to start. Everybody's like, send Julius

787
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: Randall to the bench. So I'm taking Julius Randall. Wow,

788
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: just kidding, just kidding.

789
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: If I were taking a Timberwolf, I would take Dante DiVincenzo.

790
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

791
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: Uh. To be quite honest, I just I think this

792
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: is kind of a hard one because I'm like, is

793
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: Caruso coming off the bench right now? It looks like

794
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: he probably will, but I think he could be a

795
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: starter for that team. Kind of feel the same way

796
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: about Hi may hawkas Yeah, first, Dante DiVincenzo could be

797
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: a starter, Reid could be a starter. So my process

798
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: love the nation. I guess I'm taking Malik Monk even

799
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: like his role is probably going down this year. He

800
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: was a huge clutch player for the Kings last season,

801
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 3: but they brought in to rozen. You know, he's gonna

802
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: have the ball in crunch time, just like dearon Foxwell,

803
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: so I don't think he's gonna be as necessary to

804
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: the Kings just because they have some more awesome options

805
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. I think it's a

806
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: tough one to figure here. Yeah, I mean, I don't really.

807
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: I didn't really think I was gonna take Malik Monk,

808
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: but I just started talking and it came out. It's like,

809
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like I would like to

810
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: take de Vincenzo, but I'm like, is he the seventh

811
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: man on the team? Well, okay, I was.

812
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I was slightly concerned about Nasried and Dante DiVincenzo like

813
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: cannibalizing each other when it comes to this vote. But

814
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: then I was reminded, uh, could be like Jordan Clarkson

815
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: and Joe Ingalls a couple of years ago, well four

816
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: years ago now at this point on the Utah Jazz,

817
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: they went one two in this Clarkson won the Ingle's

818
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: got a majority of the second place votes running up

819
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: for six minutes. That could happen. So you just like

820
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: they get lumped together and they're like, well, it's got

821
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: to go to one of them because they're elite bench,

822
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, maybe don't be scared if

823
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: you want to take it.

824
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: But all right, I got your concern. Yeah, Okay, you're going.

825
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Are you going, Malik Mondo?

826
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: No, I'm going, he talked. I wanted to take him.

827
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: He told me not to be scared. I just get

828
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: a little spooked. It's weak enough. Scary times still thinking

829
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: of that Zachy.

830
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: Okay, Dante Devincenza, where are you going?

831
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm going with another weird scenario where they could have

832
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: two guys that you could vote for with the New

833
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans because who is starting for that team?

834
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 3: Well, Herb Jones is apparently starting at center center.

835
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that bodes well for somebody like

836
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: Trey Murphy on that team to be the guy coming

837
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: off the bench. Because let's just okay, let's we'll talk.

838
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: Because we know Zion starting, we know Herb Jones is starting,

839
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: we know Jante Murray is starting. He's not going. He

840
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: is their point guard.

841
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram's got to start, I think.

842
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: So at least yeah, yeah, but they don't have a

843
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: center then Jones maybe. Okay, so we're CJ McCallum. He

844
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: plays on that team too, and then they pay him

845
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars. Are they starting six guys? I mean

846
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: there are how many guys there? They start like one

847
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: of these.

848
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean, in this case, Tice is out, he's not starting.

849
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Herb Jones is starting at center, which you

850
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: think they're lying to us, probably, but it is strange

851
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: because they have so many guys. So yeah, okay, so

852
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: if we're starting, this could be the New Orleans Pelicans

853
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: starting team. You're talking, Uh, Johntay Murray is your starting

854
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: point guard, McCollum's right beside him, Ingram, Zion, and Herb Jones. Okay,

855
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: that's your starting five. Well, Trey Murphy is the guy

856
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: to vote for when it comes to six man because

857
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: he's just gonna come off in fire because he's so

858
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: good at it and he is not playing right now.

859
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: He's banged out for a couple of weeks, but he

860
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: should be back, and so he's kind of a dark

861
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: horse in terms of this right now, just because he's out.

862
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: So find him, find him in the betting odds and

863
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: take Trey Murphy the third. It is an odd scenario. Yes,

864
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: there's just so many guys, so many good players.

865
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: There, and that could get blown up in your face

866
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: if they do trade Brandon Ingram and then Trey Murphy

867
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: slots into the starting line.

868
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, and then yes, cannot win.

869
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's a similar similar thing with Malik

870
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Monk in Sacramento. The guy obviously is a bucket and

871
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: he can score coming off the bench, but is he

872
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: going to get enough shots when it comes to the

873
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: end of the game. And do they want to go

874
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: in a different direction? Do they Are they going to

875
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: keep all of those smaller players. Do they want to

876
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: get taller? Do they want to get because they are

877
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: lacking in that. I know, I know Demotsimois is their

878
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: center and that's what he does, but it may be

879
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: a time, it might be time to get a little

880
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: bigger and move one of those guys out of there.

881
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: This is tough. This is a very difficult one to

882
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: like try and predict.

883
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Malik Monk, but yeah, you're right.

884
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: A big part of his case last year that I

885
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: kept saying on the show is like this guy takes

886
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: over late. He really does. But now you got you

887
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: already have Fox of course was a part of that equation.

888
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Now he got DeRozan, who's one of the best we've

889
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: ever seen in terms of fourth quarter scoring. It's like

890
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: this monk get squeezed here a little bit, so I'm

891
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna go with my dark horse pick because I just

892
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: don't like anyone else really on the board. Because you

893
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: said it, Trey, half of these guys might be starting

894
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: at some point. Give me Bobby Portis at plus eighteen hundred.

895
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: Likes to shoot.

896
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Nobody likes that pick, I'll tell you that. But he

897
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: finished third last year in this so he's top of

898
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: mind when it comes to six man. Yeah, he scores.

899
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: He heard fourteen and seven in about twenty five minutes

900
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: per game, good shooting splits fifty forty eighty, and Crazy

901
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Eyes was right there with nas Red when it came

902
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: to wind shares like he does impact winning. So give

903
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: me og Bobby Portis for a.

904
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: Six Man of the Year win.

905
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't love it, but you know this is difficult

906
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: anyone else that you want to show some love to.

907
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of nice dark horses here. CJ. McCollum,

908
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: I actually think is the guy that should come off

909
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: the bench for the Pelicans. He's tenth in odds at

910
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: plus eighteen hundred, and then I like Duce McBride as

911
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: well plus two thousand. He's eleventh in odds. Tim's doesn't

912
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: play a lot of guys, but he's gonna have to

913
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: play Duce McBride. But it's kind of hard to take

914
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: him for six Man of the Year when you're taking

915
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson for MVP. You know, I was like, I

916
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: ain't a lot of minutes left over for the v

917
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: if there's an MVP. But uh yeah, I like both

918
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: of those guys.

919
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: I think they're good players.

920
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: I like Duce McBride that pick as well, because this

921
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: team is a little thinner and let's say there's more injuries.

922
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: You know, Mitchell Robinson is out, Kat missed some games

923
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: last year, OG missed some games last year. If they

924
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: all go out, this guy's gonna come on the floor

925
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: and shoot a lot. I think he's he's got the

926
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: ticket to go. But I do like sprinkling your money

927
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: amongst all the Pelicans. I don't think. I don't think

928
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: we know who's coming.

929
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Cam Stewart here, Eh yeah, none, golf a little bit

930
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: over here.

931
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 4: That guys on this guy, he'll.

932
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Make cut three dollars for Trey Sprinkle Andrey Murphy CJ gets.

933
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really no good a good

934
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: pun there for dollars.

935
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: To put a dollar on Jose Alvarado just for.

936
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 2: Fun throwing down.

937
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: He's seeing a lot of Benedict matharn.

938
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 4: I wouldn't lie.

939
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: He just scored twenty five points.

940
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: And had a great one. Then the Baker. That's what

941
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him this season. They did that video

942
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: for their schedule release where apparently like he likes baking goods.

943
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: His team Halliburton, in one of the media days, was like, yeah,

944
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: he baked me a great I think it was banana bread, I.

945
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: Want to say, or something like that. Cool.

946
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: I forgot ben the Baker. He can score. He's kind

947
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: of a forgotten guy for me, just because of how

948
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: much time he missed. And you know, the Pacers were

949
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: pretty good in the playoffs.

950
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: And he wasn't around.

951
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's still a good player than the Baker.

952
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: That's a big da because you know he's cooking.

953
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's getting hot.

954
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: That's a science, that's true.

955
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: I thought his mom cooked a lot for his team.

956
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: Yes, menu, yeah, yeah, yeah, So.

957
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: Learn it from his mama. Yeah, Okay, I like that.

958
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: Let's sprinkle sprinkle like a lot of sprinkles. What do

959
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: you sprinkle in baking flour?

960
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: Sprinkles sprinkles. Put him on the top of your cake.

961
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: You do sprinkle sprinkles.

962
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to you can get that. You can also

963
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: sprinkle salt. Get the salt.

964
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Cookie. Defensive Player of the Year odds. Come on, we're

965
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: trying to get under an hour here, just kidding. Look

966
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: at these odds. We have our first like, look at

967
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: these odds. That doesn't really where it is. Nickel Beck

968
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: Mon Yama, the odds on favorite to win this minus

969
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: two fifty. Vegas is saying it's his, guys, you'd be

970
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: silly to bet on anyone else. Bam plus twelve hundred

971
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert plus fourteen hundred Mobiley Tasso's guy plus sixteen

972
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: hundred Chet Holmgren also plus sixteen hundred. Rudy Gobert claimed

973
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: his fourth Defensive Player of the Year award last season.

974
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, his French counterpart here odds on favorite. Can

975
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: you make a case for anyone else TK besides Whoman

976
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Yama or would you be backing him even though you're

977
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: not getting a good payout.

978
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna win it. He basically told everybody

979
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 3: at the end of the season last year, I'm gonna

980
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: win Defensive Player of the Year next year for the

981
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: foreseeable future. It's just I feel like it's unfortunate for

982
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: Bam out of Bayo, of all people, he never squeezed

983
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: one in because Go Bear got one last year with

984
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, a bounce back season for the timber Wolves.

985
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: I think BAM's chance was the year that Jaron Jackson

986
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Junior won it. Maybe the year Marcus Smart one it

987
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 3: where it was kind of like, we can't do Go

988
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: Bear again, But then Gobert came back last year.

989
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: He deserved it.

990
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: So I do think it'll be Victor, But I think

991
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: it would be cool if Bam got one. I don't

992
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 3: think he will. Yeah, I get second though.

993
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: Dam is finished for five consecutive seasons in the top

994
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: five in Defensive Player of the Year, which is pretty wild,

995
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: Like he's always in the running for this, but always

996
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: a bridesmaid.

997
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's if the voters say, can't give it to

998
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Victory yet, oh.

999
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, he's gonna win twenty of these literally.

1000
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. The most anybody has won the Defensive Player of

1001
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: the Year is that four is Rudy Gobert, the late

1002
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: de Kenmi Matumbo, and Ben Wallas. Yeah. So there's four

1003
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: across the board. If you give Vic his first when

1004
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: he's twenty one, he's gonna surpass those four. He's gonna

1005
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: smash it. And maybe that's okay with everybody. But if

1006
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs don't have one of the top

1007
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: five defenses, well that's it.

1008
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: They weren't they like twenty second in defensive rating last year.

1009
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: Like how high does it? Does it just have to

1010
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: be above average? Does it have to be top ten?

1011
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: I think it has to be top five. I think

1012
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: that would be really good.

1013
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: The Spurs are not going to be top five defenses.

1014
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: Very unlikely. I agree. Yeah, but Victor is going to

1015
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: play more than he did last year. They're going to

1016
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: have a better team than that period, So I think, yeah,

1017
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: it depends on what the voter thinks. It would be

1018
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: good to give Bama just a lifetime achievement of war

1019
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: for being, you know, top five for so long. He's

1020
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: in his prime year and Vick is going to get

1021
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: a thousand of these, So yeah, the BAM won. The

1022
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: BAM part, that's a good one.

1023
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: He averaged three point six blocks per game when min

1024
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Yama did last year led the league. He's good for

1025
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: over a steal a game too with those long arms,

1026
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: and you know rebounds as well, that's usually somewhat part

1027
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: of the equation. And then like all the shots that

1028
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: he just deters from people taking because they get around him,

1029
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: They're like, no, I'm not going to do that. So yeah,

1030
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: it's tough not to not to pick him here because

1031
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: they're like that whole thing. Last year was like, well,

1032
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: we got to give it to Rudy. It's a really

1033
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: good defense and he's done it again. God damn it, Rudy,

1034
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: you did it again. But there was like, yeah, even

1035
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: Wemby saying well, I'm going to win this moving forward,

1036
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: so thanks for keeping the seat warm.

1037
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: He cares about defense. If he was like if he

1038
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: was a guy that was like, oh I'm just seven

1039
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: foot five, I only play offense, he maybe would still

1040
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: be a contender for defensive. But unfortunately he cares as

1041
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: much on bad end. Yeah, he does about the offensive end,

1042
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: which is impressive.

1043
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I am just fascinated with the Again,

1044
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: we always talk about this award. It's a bit of

1045
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: a team award. It's like your team generally has to

1046
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: be a good defensive unit, and then you pick the

1047
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: best defensive player from that to give the award to,

1048
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, hence why sort of Marcus smart one at

1049
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: that one year for assultic awesome defensive team. He's a

1050
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: great defensive player, he gets it. You could have given

1051
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: it to a couple other guys on that team, for sure,

1052
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: But like, how good does the Spurs defense have to be?

1053
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: That's like, if they're fifteenth, you know, if they're average.

1054
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: That ain't good enough.

1055
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so either, So that'll be But that's

1056
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a hell of a debate if he's got

1057
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: four blocks per game and two steals, but they're like, well,

1058
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: they're only average. And then you get into obviously the

1059
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, the box plus minus in defensive wind Chares,

1060
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: I get all that and get into the nerdy numbers.

1061
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: I mean he finished second last year and there were

1062
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: twenty seconds.

1063
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

1064
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: If they move up to fifteen, people be like, what

1065
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: an improvement. They're one of the best defensive teams in

1066
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: there right now, and you.

1067
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: Know why, Okay, I'm picking them and I'm not gonna

1068
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: overthink it. Wendy's gonna win this. Uh do you have

1069
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a dark horse pick though?

1070
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 2: In that Marcus smart Light. I think Drew Holiday could

1071
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: get his first of his career. It would be difficult,

1072
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: but if they prop themselves up to the top defense,

1073
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: which would not be surprising at all, and you know,

1074
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: somebody like Minnesota drops off a little bit, I think

1075
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: there's a good chance there. It would be sort of

1076
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: a career award for him as well. Six time All

1077
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: Defensive player but never the All Defensive trophy. Yeah, he's

1078
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: been on six All defensive teams, but I don't know.

1079
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: Everybody always says in that GM survey as well, who's

1080
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: the best perimeter defender? That guy? Yeah, And so you know,

1081
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: when when it comes down to if the voters have

1082
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: to debate, mmmm, this is Victor Rouman Yama guy, he's

1083
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: not on.

1084
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: A good enough defense.

1085
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: That guy who's you know, one of the better perimeter players.

1086
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 2: Maybe one of those rare events or those rare times

1087
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: where that perimeter player gets it. There's a chance there's

1088
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: a chance you.

1089
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Can make a case for anyone else a dark horse.

1090
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, nay, nay, I cannot, No, I can't.

1091
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: But also a horse nag, Yeah, I'm very good, that

1092
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: good everybody, but Victor has a dark horse.

1093
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Really well, right, I thought you might come on here

1094
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: and convince me Caruso could get some votes.

1095
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 3: He's a guard.

1096
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the problem.

1097
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: I think Drew Holliday would probably win it before Caruso does.

1098
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: Give me a Herb Jones at plus What sixty six

1099
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: hundred are his odds? Now that we know he's playing center,

1100
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Herb Jones sixty?

1101
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: Is he even that?

1102
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: I don't.

1103
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's not. Maybe not. But if this

1104
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: works and they're saying they're gonna try it, my god,

1105
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: like he'd get some credit. And he's an incredible defender.

1106
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: And you got all his teammates already wearing Herb Jones

1107
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year shirt campaign is already swelling. Okay,

1108
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: give me Herb Jones as a dark horse, but I

1109
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: got Wemby like you guys.

1110
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: It makes sense on offense, for sure, zon with five

1111
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: guys who can shoot, four guys who can shoot. Of course,

1112
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: let's have Herb out there. But I want on the

1113
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: defensive end, how good it's going to be.

1114
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: It's like IRV Jones is gonna have to be playing

1115
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: like Zach Edy, you know, Yo Kich and all the

1116
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: monsters there. Hey, i'd like to see him try final

1117
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: award here. Coach of the Year, Yeah, oh yeah. The

1118
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: guys in the Zip ups Tomtebeau for the Knicks plus

1119
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred, he's the favorite.

1120
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of lint. If you're on YouTube here, yeah,

1121
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: look at that. That's a not a very good photo, right,

1122
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: It's a ton of lint.

1123
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: On Zip really attracts the lint hard to get off.

1124
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: It is washed it Udoka of the Rockets plus eight hundred,

1125
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: Jenkins with the Grizzlies plus eight fifty, Jamal Mosley with

1126
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: the Magic plus one thousand, and Nick Nurse seventy six

1127
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: ers plus twelve hundred. TK gets started here. Do you

1128
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: like one of those names for your Coach of the

1129
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: Year prediction? Or are you going off the board?

1130
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: Who am I going with?

1131
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel the same way about Eric

1132
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: Spolsro as I do Bam out of bio like Spolstrus

1133
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: should have a Coach of the Year, and he's a

1134
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: little bit of a dark horse here plus sixteen hundred,

1135
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: he's at ninth, but I think I will take Kenny

1136
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: Atkinson shall be my choice plus two thousand. He's eleventh

1137
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: in odds. I just think you know, of Evan Mobley,

1138
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: win's most improved player becomes an All Star. I think

1139
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: the Calves can be good. I think the Calves can

1140
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: at least be as good as they were last season,

1141
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: and maybe they can look a little bit more cohesive

1142
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: on the offensive end with Kenny Atkinson coming in and

1143
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: changing up the systems and that kind of stuff. I

1144
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: think you'll be able to see the Calves did nothing

1145
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: basically this offseason besides bringing Kenny Atkinson, but I think

1146
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 3: you'll be able to see the improvement in the team

1147
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: compared to JB. Bickerstaff there in years past. So I

1148
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: think that just the scenario, similar to Budenholzer coming in

1149
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: with the Suns, another good choice. I think for Coach

1150
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: of the Year, you'll just be able to say, oh,

1151
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: it was the coach that changed things here, because the

1152
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: coach is the only thing that changed here.

1153
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Spoolster's got to get one at some point, I

1154
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 2: totally agree, But who has the best narrative. I definitely

1155
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: think Cleveland could get Kenny Atkinson one. Also Jamal Moseley

1156
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: being up there in the odds, I think there's a

1157
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: reason for that because they could easily be a fifty

1158
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: win team ye and prop up. And they had such

1159
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: a good defense last year that is likely to keep up.

1160
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: And I think their offense can take a big jump

1161
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: strictly because Paul Boncaro is going to get better with

1162
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: a shooter out there, but also just get better having

1163
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: the ball run through him and Jalen Suggs will be

1164
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: nice and fresh on the both on the both ends

1165
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: because Casey p will be taking the other team's best player.

1166
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: So most has got a great story. It's it's all

1167
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: about story with the coach of the Year.

1168
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: So that's your pick.

1169
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good.

1170
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off the board for my pick. I'm

1171
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: going Mike Budenholzer with the Suns plus twenty five hundred,

1172
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: so he's quite far down this list.

1173
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: Good odds.

1174
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: He needs to take the Suns, who were probably just

1175
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: on the periphery of a top ten team last year.

1176
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: He needs to take them to sixty wins for him

1177
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: to get this. But guess what, Boonholzer has done that

1178
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: twice before and one coach of the year. Both times

1179
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: he did it, he did with the Hawks when they

1180
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: won sixty games, and he did it with the Bucks

1181
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: when they won sixty games. Can he do it a

1182
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: third time? Can they add what would that be? When

1183
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: they went forty nine last year? We said, yeah, can

1184
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: they You know, they did have to have an incredible year,

1185
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: but I think that would do it. So I'll take

1186
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: him as sort of my dark horse pick as well.

1187
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: Quick trivia question. Only coaches to win three Coach of

1188
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: the Year awards? Can you name them? And he guesses

1189
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: so many.

1190
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: Phil Jackson, No, no, no, Red No. We Coach of

1191
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: the Years Greg Greg Popovich is the only one to

1192
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: do it with one teams.

1193
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

1194
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Then this guy did it with two teams, and one

1195
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: guy did it with three teams.

1196
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: Is what I'm saying. Bud's gonna hopefully.

1197
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: Tom's got one.

1198
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: You would love to hang out with this one coach?

1199
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: You specifically, I would love to hang out with this one.

1200
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: Coach Rick Carlisle.

1201
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: He's no longer a coach I wanted. He's still with us.

1202
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe Don Nelson Nelson eighty four years old,

1203
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: fish tie Hawaii. I would actually yeah. Man Ethan Sherwood

1204
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: Strauss once wrote an article about hanging out with Don

1205
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: Nelson on his farm founded awesome exactly.

1206
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: And then the only coach to do it with three

1207
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: different teams, which actually did surprise me. I was like,

1208
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: holy crap, he did this three different teams. Uh, famously

1209
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: well well dressed man, Pat Lakers Nick's heat there you go,

1210
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: Ken Budenholzer join that list, and uh, not a well

1211
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: dressed man, I would say, Mikeenholzer.

1212
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: They're naming uh the pat riley is it gets a

1213
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: court named after him?

1214
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: In my Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

1215
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

1216
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Oh so Larry Brown did it in the A B A.

1217
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 4: I should say that a lot of coach of the.

1218
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Year within Uh John Tom Tibodau is not a well

1219
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: dressed coach.

1220
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Well, nobody is anymore. That's the problem.

1221
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: That is the problem. Yeah. Eric Coon on the stream

1222
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: team says, Tims sleeps in his half zip. You know

1223
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 2: what I wouldn't. I would not be surprised.

1224
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Any other dark horse picks, just like you know, throw

1225
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: a dart at the board here and say, well, why

1226
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: not this guy for Coach.

1227
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: Of the year.

1228
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: People like Doc Rivers. There's there's an outside chance, so

1229
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: he gets a lot of wins.

1230
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: You know what's funny that you bring up Doc Rivers

1231
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: because I was thinking because it feels so open in

1232
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: a weird way. For Coach of the Year, I was like,

1233
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: could this be a year where a team that was

1234
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: garbage last year suddenly is like in a play in

1235
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: situation like they're flirting with five hundred that they get

1236
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: love like Doc Rivers did with the Magic once upon

1237
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: a time way back in ninety nine two thousand. The

1238
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Magic went forty one and forty one and they missed

1239
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they had a garbage team in all honesty,

1240
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: it was like led by darl Armstrong, no offence and

1241
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: dear a Armstrong, but like they you know, had a

1242
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: really good year. Point is, could the Hornets with Charles

1243
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: Lee do that this year? Could Bickerstaff with the Pistons

1244
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: do that this year? Usually Coach of the Year it

1245
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: goes to a team that wins fifty plus games, right,

1246
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: generally even more, But maybe maybe this's a weird year,

1247
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: like one of those bottom of the barrel teams like

1248
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: has like a crazy increase where it's like they're like

1249
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: in a plan and like, oh yeah, let's give.

1250
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: The credit to him.

1251
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, so you're telling me to sprinkle, just

1252
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 3: sprinkle a little.

1253
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: I was on number thirty odds, my guy, Billy Donald. No,

1254
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: I did not say that odds on.

1255
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: The board, Bulls going forty one and forty one, taking

1256
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: home the nine seed once again, hang the banner, Billy

1257
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: Coach of the year.

1258
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 4: No.

1259
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: No, because because the balls were worth a sprinkle. No,

1260
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: because the.

1261
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: Bulls weren't that bad last year. That would be like

1262
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: a two win improvement if they went forty one forty one.

1263
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: I need, I need the Pistons, I need the Wizards.

1264
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: Sprinkle a little on Keith, Sprinkle a little on Charles

1265
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: Lee with the Hornets. You know, obviously I don't think billups,

1266
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: but uh, Bickerstaff, Like I said, with the piston, sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle, Come.

1267
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: On, Salt Bay, do some sprinkling on some odds. I

1268
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: think that's why people in a similar scenario, some people

1269
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: say that Victor Roman Yama could it be MVP? You

1270
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: take a team from where they are to a play

1271
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: in Ish.

1272
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Team, Popovich fourth Coach of the year. Hell of a call,

1273
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: But they won twenty two games last year.

1274
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: This is why I stuck around. You want to be

1275
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: the first guy to win four Coaches of the Year.

1276
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: Wow, Pavich ain't accepting that award. No way, he wouldn't accept.

1277
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: He's not taking the call. He's like, I give it

1278
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: to somebody else.

1279
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, those are the six major awards. And

1280
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking, why didn't you guys do

1281
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Clutch Player.

1282
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: Of the Year.

1283
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: Good question, Well, Ben MGM didn't have the odds for

1284
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm sure they're out there on some other books,

1285
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Clutch Player of the Year still

1286
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: seems like a fake award to me.

1287
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: Kind of.

1288
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: It feels more like the Hustle Award than it does

1289
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: one of these awards that is voting, but it is voting, right,

1290
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: it's voting. Get one of the sexy weird vases.

1291
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: You know. I believe that.

1292
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: They get a Victor Solomon, But I don't know.

1293
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: But you want to call your shot, Clutch Player of the.

1294
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: Year calling a shot? That's what these clutch players can do.

1295
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: HM stuff.

1296
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: I guess, okay, want to yea.

1297
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: According back to back, according to a random website that

1298
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 3: correlates several websites, he's the leader. He's the odds leader

1299
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: him Shay, Luca, Edwards and Brunson, and I guess Damian

1300
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 3: Leward is tied. With Brunson. Okay, I'll go Donovan Mitchell,

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: nice pick.

1302
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: I'll go.

1303
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be him. Okay, good, he's dark Horse,

1304
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: not even on the board.

1305
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: There we go.

1306
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: He's below Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray has I have haz odds?

1307
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: No yokas?

1308
00:57:59,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Why do we forget about you?

1309
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

1310
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: He gets clutch basket after clutch basket.

1311
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he does.

1312
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: He scores in the clutch all the time, just because

1313
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: they're not sexy like FATA way jumpers. They're like dinkers

1314
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: and dumpers. That's why.

1315
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs more of those weird ones. But he

1316
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: would have to play against Anthony Davis every game.

1317
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: That helps.

1318
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: All right, we did it just over an hour, maybe

1319
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: just under I'm not sure. I never know when we

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Speaker 1: actually start. But hey, thanks for joining us live on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: That's a fun This is always one of my favorite

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: podcasts of the year. If you're a Survivor fan. We

1323
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: did a great episode of No Buffs yesterday. It's up

1324
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: on the YouTube no busfeed. It's up on the podcast feed,

1325
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: breaking down the best probably episode of the season so.

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Speaker 4: Far, Episode four.

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Speaker 1: Having a blast with tk JD and my beautiful wife

1328
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Norah I'm breaking it down, So go check that out

1329
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: if you're a Survivor fan. This weekend we got the

1330
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: induction of the Basketball Hall of Fame class for twenty

1331
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: twenty four. Vince Carter going in, Billups, Michael Cooper. Those

1332
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: are the most notable NBA games, but a bunch of

1333
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: other WNBA and contributors to the game. Jerry West again, right,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yes, yeah, So have fun with

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00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: that this weekend. We'll be back on Monday to maybe

1336
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit, but to also do

1337
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: our tiers. Yes, ranking all thirty teams, title contenders all

1338
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: the way to the uh what do we call the

1339
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: bottom dwellers? I forget we had a name for them.

1340
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: I guess it's now. It's gonna be something for flats,

1341
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: gotta be FA for flag or capture the flag. But

1342
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: we will rank all thirty teams, will fire up the

1343
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: tear maker. That's on Monday Live at Tenney of Eastern.

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Speaker 3: Take the over on minutes on that one.

1345
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, I don't know what you can.

1346
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 3: You can't set the line higher.

1347
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Do you think that's you think that'll go over ninety minutes?

1348
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I do. Jad thinks. Yeah, I don't think so.

1349
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: I agree with.

1350
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Talked a lot about the teams at Under, but we'll see.

1351
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a long one. We're gonna have fun.

1352
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: That's Monday morning. Otherwise, have a great weekend until that

1353
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: Clipper Road.

1354
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time.

1355
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 4: Turn up, love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember you're right Skeets sixty

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: minutes bang as far as content goes, bang, Yes, there

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: are are some ads to make it longer than sixty minutes.

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01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: What are you going to do? We live in a

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: modern society where we have to sell ads. What are

1361
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: That's so true advice to weekend people.