Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Jetty enough He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we
Speaker 2: will do a job with it too. We'll own it
Speaker 2: and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
Speaker 2: bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site
Speaker 2: and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out,
Speaker 2: create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of
Speaker 2: jobs and housing for the people of the area.
Speaker 3: Worth pointing out. As you can tell he's reading there.
Speaker 3: This wasn't like just something he shot off the top
Speaker 3: of his head. Somebody wrote that, correct, and he walked
Speaker 3: into read it the whole The United States is going
Speaker 3: to take over gozele thing.
Speaker 1: He's half serious about this.
Speaker 4: We're joking last hour about how everybody's freaking out when
Speaker 4: Trump he just he indicates what direction he wants to
Speaker 4: go by making outrageous demands or statements or whatever, and
Speaker 4: then the negotiations begin and it's gonna be fine. It's
Speaker 4: the only thing that keeps HIMSNBC on the air is
Speaker 4: freaking out over what Trump says, for instance, but not
Speaker 4: around here.
Speaker 1: We try to bring you what's happening, then help you
Speaker 1: understand it. If we can.
Speaker 4: I will tell you this as insane as the idea
Speaker 4: of US owning Gaza is. It's been what was described,
Speaker 4: at least in the Wall Street Journal as a closely
Speaker 4: held idea among a small group of senior advisors.
Speaker 1: Now I listened to Trump talk.
Speaker 3: And all like he as a real estate developer, like
Speaker 3: Dick Cheney and some of though there's other names I've forgotten.
Speaker 4: Want to take over a rack that crowd. I mean,
Speaker 4: I can't remember if they named names. I read this
Speaker 4: a couple of hours ago. Taking control of the hotly
Speaker 4: contested territory would put the US at the center of
Speaker 4: the world's most complicated diplomatic and national security conflicts, raising
Speaker 4: the prospect that Trump is signing up for exactly the
Speaker 4: kind of foreign entanglement he told voters he would avoid.
Speaker 1: Well, that is absolutely self happening.
Speaker 3: Taking Gaza and holding it would make a rack seem
Speaker 3: like taking over Nebraska.
Speaker 4: It would certainly be the bet. The best case. It
Speaker 4: would be very similar. Yeah, although it's a much smaller area.
Speaker 4: Definitely that that that's an advantage. But oh my god.
Speaker 3: So it's funny, and it's funny since he said yesterday,
Speaker 3: I didn't even contemplated it in reality because I just
Speaker 3: assume that's not on the table.
Speaker 1: Right and I am. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say two thirds, one third, two thirds is
Speaker 4: all right. He's signaling directionally that the time for farting
Speaker 4: around is over right the Arab Muslim neighboring countries, you're
Speaker 4: not going to turn your back and say it's Israel's
Speaker 4: problem in the US is anymore, you're gonna help us,
Speaker 4: or I'm gonna hurt you, or we're just gonna start
Speaker 4: taking over giant swath's land.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I definitely think that's the message. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: two thirds of it.
Speaker 4: So when the other third of it is that he
Speaker 4: and his advisors have been talking about this, wrote out
Speaker 4: that statement and he was like, you could hear the
Speaker 4: lust in his voice as a real estate developer, because
Speaker 4: you know, if you're not familiar with this, the Kaza
Speaker 4: Strip is an astonishingly valuable piece of land.
Speaker 1: Globally speaking.
Speaker 4: It is a beautiful, temperate, La like climate right by
Speaker 4: the Mediterranean with nice hills and everything. I mean, it
Speaker 4: would be You can't even imagine the value of that
Speaker 4: land if you could get crazy Islam out of it.
Speaker 4: And a third of me here's Trump talking about that,
Speaker 4: and I can hear the excitement in his voice, and
Speaker 4: there's about a third of me that thinks he's at
Speaker 4: least half serious.
Speaker 3: Well, let's hear some more of the Trump stuff so
Speaker 3: we can discuss it all.
Speaker 1: Let it just roll on in order there, Michael.
Speaker 5: This was not a decision made lightly. Everybody I've spoken
Speaker 5: to loves the idea of the United States owning that
Speaker 5: piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs. If
Speaker 5: the United States can help to bring stability and peace
Speaker 5: in the Middle East, we'll do that.
Speaker 3: A quick question, where are the people going to be
Speaker 3: when we have it? Somewhere somewhere else? He kind of
Speaker 3: sort of gets to that, doesn't he.
Speaker 2: We should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts,
Speaker 2: and there are many of them that want to do
Speaker 2: this and build various domains that will ultimately be occupied
Speaker 2: by the one point eight million Palestinians living in Gaza.
Speaker 2: Ending the death and destruction and frankly bad luck. This
Speaker 2: could be paid for by neighboring countries of great wealth.
Speaker 2: It could be one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, twelve,
Speaker 2: It could be numerous sites, so it could be one
Speaker 2: large site, but the people will be able to live
Speaker 2: in comfort and peace.
Speaker 3: To me, that my takeaway yesterday was he's telling Egypt
Speaker 3: and Jordan particularly, you don't get to rile up your
Speaker 3: people anymore about how awful it is for the Palestinians,
Speaker 3: while at the same time not allowing a single Palestinian
Speaker 3: into your country when you're right next door.
Speaker 4: That game is over. Here's the rub. They're smart to
Speaker 4: not let them in. The countries that have tried, you know, Lebanon, Jordan,
Speaker 4: Kuwait at one point.
Speaker 1: You know what they get.
Speaker 4: They get angry Islamist revolutionaries in their country screws up
Speaker 4: their country. Look at the Beirot Civil War if you
Speaker 4: want to, you want to see bloodshed, sectarian bloodshed. So
Speaker 4: that's the rub. There's and it's funny. We have a
Speaker 4: lot of new folks listening new radio stations. Thank you
Speaker 4: very much for being here. Give it a little while
Speaker 4: you get used to it. It's not like a lot
Speaker 4: of talk shows that always try.
Speaker 3: To New Hampshire Hello for Oklahoma City, Yes, and others.
Speaker 1: Oh, from the country, Hello Tulsa, Fort Collins, Colorado? Love
Speaker 1: Fort Collins? Anyway?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Or were we? Oh?
Speaker 4: A lot of talk show hosts are constantly trying to
Speaker 4: sell you certainty. They know everything all the time, every
Speaker 4: single second. There are times that there is uncertainty. For instance,
Speaker 4: I'm looking through some of the specifics that Trump said,
Speaker 4: and a top advisor said, and and and I don't
Speaker 4: want to be inflammatory, I do, but if you were
Speaker 4: to momentarily take seriously the idea that, Okay, the US
Speaker 4: is gonna quote unquote take over Gaza temporarily, We're gonna
Speaker 4: relocate all the Palestinians, temporarily, find them nice places to
Speaker 4: live in other lands. All right, we're gonna rebuild it
Speaker 4: into a fabulous seaside resort town with jobs for everyone
Speaker 4: and well of plenty. And then uh yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 4: plan is we'll let all the angry, militant Palestinians right
Speaker 4: back in. Now, if you heard that as a realist,
Speaker 4: what would you think.
Speaker 1: What's the last part there? Exactly? They're gonna clear them
Speaker 1: out and not let them back in.
Speaker 4: And Israel having decided post October seventh, something is gonna
Speaker 4: change fundamentally, I mean really really change. We're not going
Speaker 4: to have uneasy peace with people who want to wipe
Speaker 4: us off the map because we're Jews anymore. That's over
Speaker 4: and throughout the history of mankind. And again I'm not
Speaker 4: saying this is true. I'm just saying it's in your
Speaker 4: pie chart of possibilities in the history of mankind. The
Speaker 4: way you settled an intractable situation like that is you
Speaker 4: got rid of the people occupy in that land.
Speaker 1: Where are we supposed to go? I don't know, not
Speaker 1: here in short Israel, And.
Speaker 4: It's ally the United States are going to take over
Speaker 4: that land and assuring a fundamental change of who's in
Speaker 4: what place in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Well, let me uh with this.
Speaker 3: This was in Mark Alprin's political newsletter this morning, in
Speaker 3: which he wrote his newsletters called the Wide World of News.
Speaker 3: He said, this from a Wide World of News reader,
Speaker 3: one of the smartest and most anti Trump people I
Speaker 3: have ever met, in a series of emails to me,
Speaker 3: and I'll just read a little bit of it. Trump
Speaker 3: made me love him. This is from one of the
Speaker 3: most anti Trump people Alprin's ever met. Wow, Trump made
Speaker 3: me love him. He spoke to the reality of the
Speaker 3: situation that a winning side must now emerge, and it
Speaker 3: must be us. The cycle of killing between jew and
Speaker 3: Arab Muslims must end, and he is Colossus, will make
Speaker 3: it happen. Quite stunning, quite obvious, quite visionary, quite outrageous
Speaker 3: to everyone but me. He's got MSNBC spinning. He stunned
Speaker 3: Bbie and left him speechless. Amazing theater. But the message
Speaker 3: is somebody needs to emerge the victor, and the time
Speaker 3: is now.
Speaker 1: This ends exactly. Yeah, And you know it's funny.
Speaker 4: I've been pitching that idea for a while and some
Speaker 4: people probably think I sound like a lunatic. But Israel's
Speaker 4: peace plan is to defeat their enemies, and defeat them
Speaker 4: to the point that they are no longer an enemy,
Speaker 4: They're not a threat in any way. It's also Homas's plan,
Speaker 4: Rand's plan the other direction. Well, and given that fact,
Speaker 4: Israel's flexibility to like have a a half solution, a
Speaker 4: peace loving patient half solution where they go back to
Speaker 4: something October Sixthy, No, they've decided they're not going to
Speaker 4: do that anymore. What does that look like in reality?
Speaker 4: This is what I've been saying for a long time
Speaker 4: it looks like the complete and total annihilation and or
Speaker 4: removal of those who have vowed to wipe every jew
Speaker 4: off the.
Speaker 1: Face of the map, particularly Israel.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's something we haven't figured out in the
Speaker 3: modern world with a when and you know, uh, video cameras,
Speaker 3: every video cameras everywhere in modern sensibilities and all that
Speaker 3: sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Is wars have always ended when one.
Speaker 3: Side wins to the point that the other side has
Speaker 3: to give up whatever they got to give up to
Speaker 3: make the fighting stop. And we've stopped doing that around
Speaker 3: the world for the most part, except for in like
Speaker 3: your god awful parts of the world where nobody cares
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 1: We've stopped doing that.
Speaker 3: And the only way for this to end is for
Speaker 3: one side to just obliterate the other side.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can stomach that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can stomach.
Speaker 4: That right right, Well, I just think that the Barack Obama,
Speaker 4: John carry Joe Biden, to the extent that he had
Speaker 4: any thoughts, they believe that not only could we eliminate
Speaker 4: unconditional surrender type conflicts mostly which I think is a
Speaker 4: good idea if you can do it diplomatically. Don't kill people,
Speaker 4: don't hurt people, don't wreck their stuff. But they thought
Speaker 4: you could. You could do that completely one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: eliminate wars of annihilation or total victory. It's not realistic.
Speaker 4: Human beings will not cease to be human beings just
Speaker 4: because you want them to stop anyway. Again, though I
Speaker 4: can't decide which of those options Trump is most enthusiastic about.
Speaker 1: The Other thing about Trump is that.
Speaker 4: He is he's a bullet of china shop negotiator, but
Speaker 4: he's very good at a couple of things. Number One,
Speaker 4: he understands one hundred percent where leverage is in a negotiation.
Speaker 1: He is acutely aware of that, like a like a fox.
Speaker 4: And he's also very good at understanding if you're not
Speaker 4: willing to walk away from a negotiation, you have lost
Speaker 4: a significant amount of leverage. And so he will walk
Speaker 4: into something like a bullet or china shop, and he
Speaker 4: has two, three, even four outcomes in mind that might
Speaker 4: be acceptable under certain conditions. And I'm not sure which
Speaker 4: one of these he's most enthusiastic about here, but the
Speaker 4: whole palette is available here.
Speaker 3: How's is Maga World taking him seriously but not literally
Speaker 3: when he says he was asked about we got another
Speaker 3: one here, I know where about a time, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I keep rambling going sorry.
Speaker 3: Uh, dang it, we got the three?
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I don't have the right sheet. Go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Michael, mister president.
Speaker 3: Given what you've said about Gaza to the US and troops.
Speaker 1: To help secure the security back.
Speaker 5: There as far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what
Speaker 5: is necessary.
Speaker 3: I mean, nothing could be less Maga than that, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's been his whole thing since before he
Speaker 3: even started running in to twenty fifteen, the stupid wars
Speaker 3: in the Middle East and everything like that. And he's
Speaker 3: he's talking about sending troops to Gaza. How did people
Speaker 3: react to that? I assume you are taking him seriously,
Speaker 3: not literally. You don't think that will ever act really happened.
Speaker 3: That's never gonna happen.
Speaker 4: If I was Tucker Carlson's dog, I'd run for my
Speaker 4: life because he's looking for something to kick right now.
Speaker 1: You can't believe that. What do you think you think
Speaker 1: he means it?
Speaker 3: I don't think he means text line four KFTC.
Speaker 6: That tund that the price of a Super Bowl commercial
Speaker 6: just went up from seven million dollars to eight million dollars.
Speaker 1: Here's an ad that they're planning to run in the
Speaker 1: second quarter.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, why didn't anyone tell us that a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl ad cost.
Speaker 1: Eight million dollars? We don't have eight million dollars. We're
Speaker 1: barely hanging on by a thread over here.
Speaker 4: It was the last time anyone went to a Best
Speaker 4: Buy even we just buy this crap on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Now this also counts as an ad. Oh god, oh god,
Speaker 1: turn away best fine. Imagine that. Well, they didn't really
Speaker 1: think that through.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the Super Bowl, the newest JK. Rowling release
Speaker 4: ought to be Harry Potter in The Secret Playbook. Ooh,
Speaker 4: I was just reading about how the Chiefs have a
Speaker 4: just a The reason they always look so great and
Speaker 4: whoop up on teams in the playoffs after stumbling, fumbling,
Speaker 4: bumbling their way to just barely good enough season. Well,
Speaker 4: they had a wonderful season, but like each individual game
Speaker 4: they would just do.
Speaker 1: Enough to win. Is that they keep all.
Speaker 4: Sorts of clever innovative plays secret. They don't use them
Speaker 4: during the regular season. They have an entire Now it's
Speaker 4: the playoffs playbook.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a risky maneuver. Seems to be working for him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems nuts.
Speaker 4: But anyway, speaking of nuts, so perhaps you've heard Donald
Speaker 4: Jay said, the US is going to take over the
Speaker 4: Gaza Strip, won't it. We'll be responsible for it, We'll
Speaker 4: clean it out, we'll rebuild it. Palestinians will go away.
Speaker 4: Then we'll let them back when it's all rebuilt and stuff.
Speaker 4: And it's it's I'm almost certain is straight out of
Speaker 4: the Will Invade Panama playbook. And we got some great
Speaker 4: sensible No, you're not going to be in China's back pocket,
Speaker 4: concessions from Panama, really productive negotiations. I'm pretty sure it's that.
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, Jack, I'll let you analyze. The
Speaker 4: White House put out multiple pages.
Speaker 1: Just last night. Tonight, President Donald J.
Speaker 4: Trump announced a bold vision for the United States to
Speaker 4: secure lasting piece in Gaza. The definition of insanity is
Speaker 4: doing the same thing over and over again expecting a
Speaker 4: different result. The killing must stop, and President Trump will
Speaker 4: finally ensure there is peace. President Trump's visionary proposal and
Speaker 4: relentless pursuit Piece was immediately praised. Former US Ambassador at
Speaker 4: Israel I'm not going to name some of these people
Speaker 4: just to save time, but Trump's pose USA takeover the
Speaker 4: Gaza strip may sound out of the box, but it
Speaker 4: is brilliant, historic, and the only idea I've heard in
Speaker 4: fifty years that has a chance of bringing security, piece
Speaker 4: and prosperity to this troubled region. Former Deputy National Security
Speaker 4: Advisors said, today we heard President Trump come out and
Speaker 4: say what no American leader has had the courage to
Speaker 4: say before, which is that the United States is willing
Speaker 4: to step in here and play the leadership role we
Speaker 4: need to play. Let's see News Nations Leland. I know
Speaker 4: his act, he's a journalist, but there's a lot of appetite,
Speaker 4: especially in the US, to say the way we've been
Speaker 4: dealing with the past Palestinians for the past fifty years
Speaker 4: hasn't worked. Why not give something new a try. Senator
Speaker 4: Rick Scott A. Most terrorists murdered babies and burned people alive.
Speaker 4: They're evil monsters. Thank god, we finally have a president
Speaker 4: who's committed to standing with Israel and working with NET
Speaker 4: and Yahoo. Get the terrorists out of Gaza, bring every
Speaker 4: hostage home. The list goes on and on, pages of
Speaker 4: statements in support of this policy op including Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I heard a bunch of them, including Lindsay Graham, where
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, that's an idea.
Speaker 4: I think it is a directional gesture. It is the
Speaker 4: chantic crazy.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not freaking out because I don't think there's
Speaker 3: any chance we're going to take over Gaza.
Speaker 4: So no, no, But what does he really want? What
Speaker 4: he really wants is a serious shakeup of the status.
Speaker 4: Quote what will that look like? If I may quote
Speaker 4: the Spice Girl, tell me what you want? What you
Speaker 4: really really want?
Speaker 1: That's where we have found.
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Speaker 7: Must season control of USAID, which provides humanitarian assistance around
Speaker 7: the world, but Musk who is the world riches man
Speaker 7: posting we spent the weekend feeding USAID into the wood chipper.
Speaker 7: The State Department is now starting to evacuate all USAID
Speaker 7: staff who are on foreign assignments worldwide, some fifteen hundred
Speaker 7: to two thousand people. The goal is to bring all
Speaker 7: those workers and their families back to the United States
Speaker 7: by this weekend.
Speaker 4: All of this stuff is unfolding better than I could
Speaker 4: have imagined, a lot of it, including the reaction to
Speaker 4: some of the Doge stuff that's going on. Give me
Speaker 4: a sixty one sixty two back to back there.
Speaker 6: Michael Doze is not a real government agency. Doze has
Speaker 6: no authority to shut programs down or ignore federal law.
Speaker 6: DOJ's conduct, I said, cannot be allowed to stand.
Speaker 3: Watching Elon Musk because he's the guy who's trying to centralize.
Speaker 1: All power behind him, and he hasn't been elected to anything.
Speaker 3: So whatever the Atlantic cover story this month, are they
Speaker 3: a monthly or weekly? It's a website, The Atlantic, the
Speaker 3: Constitutional crisis is here with a picture of Elon staring
Speaker 3: up in the Capitol.
Speaker 1: Constitutional Crisis.
Speaker 4: The part of this that I love is that although
Speaker 4: this is exactly what Trump ran.
Speaker 1: On, right, the reaction to.
Speaker 3: The government and part of the country to wanting to
Speaker 3: get rid of government employees should.
Speaker 1: Tell you something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why why would you be so resistant? I mean,
Speaker 3: unless it's your sister who's going to lose your job,
Speaker 3: and nobody owns a loser job and have to go
Speaker 3: find another job. I mean, it's not pleasant no matter what.
Speaker 3: But other than that. I mean, why would you be
Speaker 3: against the government shrinking or getting fewer employees, Why would
Speaker 3: why would your immediate reaction be so emotional and fearful.
Speaker 4: Well, that's why the progressive scam, I think is so
Speaker 4: evilly brilliant. They've convinced a large number of people in
Speaker 4: the US. And maybe people are just inclined, you know,
Speaker 4: by their psychology that they were born with to lean
Speaker 4: in this direction. But they've convinced many, many millions of
Speaker 4: people that the government is good and benevolent. It not
Speaker 4: only is meant to solve all of your problems, but
Speaker 4: it will solve all solve all of your problems if
Speaker 4: you give them enough money and enough power. And people
Speaker 4: would hear that couple of sentences, I just uttered and say, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they are here to solve all of our problems.
Speaker 3: Well, for instance, this US AID thing, money we give
Speaker 3: to various countries around the world. And we've heard the
Speaker 3: list in the last week or so about how we
Speaker 3: gave you know, seventy million dollars to Ireland for a
Speaker 3: transgender play.
Speaker 1: Or something like that. But I have more.
Speaker 3: Yes, But now they're talking about recalling thousands of US
Speaker 3: eight employees from foreign countries by Saturday.
Speaker 1: Like fast, you gotta get out.
Speaker 3: Josh Rogan, who we really really like generally, but I
Speaker 3: don't like his take on this. ABC reporting that State
Speaker 3: Department is moving to recall thousands of US eight employees
Speaker 3: from foreign countries.
Speaker 1: Shame.
Speaker 3: These are people who have dedicated their careers to helping.
Speaker 1: Out blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: And one of my favorite pundits reacted, this is not
Speaker 3: a military deployment. These are jobs, not religious missions. They
Speaker 3: signed up to serve their country. Spare me right. I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's part of this that seems a little chaotic
Speaker 4: to me, like the jan and six pardons and that
Speaker 4: sort of thing. I think we could probably do a
Speaker 4: better job if we take our time. It doesn't need
Speaker 4: to be by the end of the week. It's more
Speaker 4: of the generalized squealing about reducing these programs that bothers.
Speaker 3: These are some sort of missionaries, These people that worked
Speaker 3: in government given their lives to the church, which is
Speaker 3: government in your eyes, and just you.
Speaker 1: Don't understand what you're doing. I was reading another article.
Speaker 3: It was a I forget which newspaper it was, but
Speaker 3: it was a like a write in give me advice
Speaker 3: sort of thing about how my partner and I had
Speaker 3: bought a house in this area, and now because we could,
Speaker 3: we didn't have to go into the office. But now
Speaker 3: with the evil Republicans, they didn't say evil, but now
Speaker 3: with the Republican administration, my partner's gonna have to go
Speaker 3: into the office and we need to sell our home
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah. Yeah, welcome to the freaking world.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many people You know, how many
Speaker 3: people have had to sell their homes because their jobs changed? Lots,
Speaker 3: lots and lots, including me, including my dad, including Joe,
Speaker 3: including tons of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 3: You are so insulated from the real world, you government employees,
Speaker 3: you have no idea what you're talking about. And it
Speaker 3: makes me furious.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, USAID managed Mordan forty billion dollars and has no
Speaker 4: fewer than ten thousand employees around the world. And some
Speaker 4: of the programs they run are very, very good. I
Speaker 4: think we'd all be in favor of them, or most
Speaker 4: of them. Most of them are are definitely defensible, including
Speaker 4: on a purely real politic level where we're winning friends
Speaker 4: and influencing people and keeping China at bay in various
Speaker 4: parts of the world. But having said that, and here's
Speaker 4: not only is this list amusing, but it leads me
Speaker 4: to my ultimate point. Let's see, So the USA, who's
Speaker 4: who's writing this article? I thought it was really good.
Speaker 4: Oh it's the editorial board of the journal BAA BAA
Speaker 4: US eight is hardly full of Mother Teresa's and only
Speaker 4: want to do good without a political agenda. And the
Speaker 4: House Foreign Affairs chairman sites is some examples. The agency
Speaker 4: in the Biden years supported electric vehicles in Vietnam. I mean,
Speaker 4: because where would America be if people were just riding
Speaker 4: or on in regular cars in Vietnam? And a transgender
Speaker 4: clinic in India. A Serbian LGBT group called the groupa
Speaker 4: Izaji received a million and a half dollars to advance diversity,
Speaker 4: equity and inclusion in Serbia's workplaces in business communities.
Speaker 1: Many many other examples. Also.
Speaker 4: An analysis by the Middle East Forum says one hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty four million dollars of USAID money has supported
Speaker 4: radical organizations around the world, and one hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: two million of that aid was going to groups aligned
Speaker 4: with foreign terrorist organizations.
Speaker 1: We are funding to the tune of hundreds of millions.
Speaker 4: Of dollars, the very people who are killing our soldiers
Speaker 4: and our people if they stray into the wrong part
Speaker 4: of the world.
Speaker 1: Well, to your point of the air examples of it
Speaker 1: doing good, and I'm sure there are, Oh, I'm not
Speaker 1: close to my ultimate point.
Speaker 3: You can probably answer yours one of your points, but
Speaker 3: one of your points being there are you know, there's
Speaker 3: money spent that's doing good. And then the idea that
Speaker 3: there are, you know, domestically employees or programs or whatever,
Speaker 3: they're good.
Speaker 1: Fine, then we'll bring them back.
Speaker 3: Let's go too far, let's go way too far on
Speaker 3: cutting the government. And if it turns out, you know,
Speaker 3: we really need that agency, it'll be easy to put back.
Speaker 3: We seem to be really good at growing the government.
Speaker 3: That never seems to be a problem.
Speaker 4: You don't care if kids dive ades in Africa anyway,
Speaker 4: that would be the response. So anyway to work to
Speaker 4: my ultimate point, the list of these dumb, wasteful, or
Speaker 4: like in a bloody way, self defeating expenditures. They're not
Speaker 4: only stupid and amusing or frustrating, they're proof that here
Speaker 4: I put like this, the fact that those expenditures exist
Speaker 4: proves that the agency is utterly corrupt. The problem is
Speaker 4: not those expenditures specifically, although that's a problem, but the
Speaker 4: agency that would permit that and promote that and be
Speaker 4: happy of it and proud of it. That is a
Speaker 4: disease agency that Oh yes, Jack says.
Speaker 1: Let's go too far. Yeah, yeah, they're they're crazy people.
Speaker 3: For one thing, you're crazy people, way out of step
Speaker 3: with the mainstream of America. If you saw how many
Speaker 3: people would have to be involved, maybe shockingly few would
Speaker 3: have to sign off on millions of dollars for some
Speaker 3: sort of trans clinic in India. I mean, that's not
Speaker 3: in step with the American priorities.
Speaker 1: What was my other point on that? Oh yeah, And
Speaker 1: to your point, they're they're corrupt.
Speaker 3: But that's the stuff that we can look at and
Speaker 3: we obviously scratch our head and think, oh, okay, you
Speaker 3: need to justify that. How about the programs that sound
Speaker 3: pretty There are lots of programs in the United States
Speaker 3: that sound great and they still don't accomplish anything. You're
Speaker 3: gonna tell me we don't have lots of those around
Speaker 3: the world that their intention is great, but they're just
Speaker 3: flabby or poorly run or it didn't work or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, that happens all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4: And according to virtually everybody I trust who's looked into
Speaker 4: USA through the years, it has become this incredibly self congratulatory,
Speaker 4: self regarding branch of the government that views itself as
Speaker 4: above the government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what above taxpayers.
Speaker 3: That was the other point that I flit it out
Speaker 3: of my head was the it shows how insulated they
Speaker 3: think they are, how nobody's watching, and they can do
Speaker 3: whatever they want because they know how unpopular some of
Speaker 3: this stuff would be. But they're just so confident nobody's
Speaker 3: paying any attention. We can do whatever we want and
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna notice or care.
Speaker 1: Well. I think it's even worse than that.
Speaker 4: I think their beliefs not that nobody's watching, but that
Speaker 4: nobody dare criticize them, and nobody should have that right.
Speaker 1: Which leads me to my favorite tweet I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3: I can't believe the US is about to invade Gaza
Speaker 3: and our government has zero dollars to put on any
Speaker 3: transgender musicals there.
Speaker 4: Speaking of which, the self declownment of Hollywood through this
Speaker 4: ridiculous gender bending Madness Movie, Amelia Perez. It's even funnier
Speaker 4: than I thought, and I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get to that next segment. That
Speaker 1: is great.
Speaker 3: I wanted to jam in this one thing just because
Speaker 3: we were talking about USAID. This is a tweet from
Speaker 3: Peter Baker, who's an incredibly smart guy. He's got one
Speaker 3: of the most important journalistic positions on planet Earth. He's
Speaker 3: the White House reporter for the New York Times. Smart guy,
Speaker 3: And this is what he tweeted out. Total USAID annual
Speaker 3: spending to provide food, medicine, shelter, and other services to
Speaker 3: impoverished countries around the world.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight billion dollars.
Speaker 3: Total increase in Elon Musk's net worth since November election
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty six billion.
Speaker 1: And that's the whole tweet.
Speaker 4: Uh, what's the next part because that's completely what really.
Speaker 1: The hell is that? Oh?
Speaker 2: My right?
Speaker 3: And so that lands with the New York Times today, right?
Speaker 3: Does that land with the New York Times crowd with?
Speaker 1: Oh? Devastating, That's just devastating.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't understand the way you people look at
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 1: It just I can't even wrap my hand around it.
Speaker 1: Let me this rabbit down its hole.
Speaker 4: So if, for instance, Tesla had had the worst quarter
Speaker 4: ever and Elon's wealth had dropped.
Speaker 1: By thirty percent, that would excuse or justify a different
Speaker 1: level of government spending.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't quite get the nexus there, and
Speaker 4: there isn't one.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of scary sounding, emotion provoking, progressive.
Speaker 1: No, somebody's rich and it's not me, is the whole message.
Speaker 1: I think. I don't even know.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the transgender movie thing is great and a
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: Stay with us, arm strong. Yeti's very nice to meet.
Speaker 7: I let you know about change up a ratio.
Speaker 2: I see, I see men to women, A woman, two men.
Speaker 4: The feel good hit at the springtime for at least
Speaker 4: hit music goal.
Speaker 3: Amelia gomet is the female Alia Press is the female
Speaker 3: sounding voice, the former guy that's now a woman that's
Speaker 3: nominated for an Oscar.
Speaker 4: It's Zoe Saldana, who's a sturdy and fine actress and
Speaker 4: unfortunately a completely embarrassing movie a self beclouding. It is
Speaker 4: the most exquisite self declouning in the history of self
Speaker 4: declouding Hollywood, driving like the Last Ten Nails in its
Speaker 4: own coffin by nominating.
Speaker 1: This horrific wreck of a movie for thirteen oscars.
Speaker 3: So this person tweeted the other day we mentioned this
Speaker 3: yesterday tweet or tweeted a couple of years ago. She
Speaker 3: had tweets in twenty twenty about George Floyd, writing in
Speaker 3: a thread that she believed very few people ever carried
Speaker 3: about the drug addict swindler George Floyd. She also had
Speaker 3: tweeted out remarks about Muslims, calling Islam an infection for
Speaker 3: humanity and describing Muslim migration to Spain as a planned invasion.
Speaker 3: Those kinds of things have got her on the wrong
Speaker 3: side of the wolf crowd.
Speaker 4: Her being a male, but it makes it very confusing
Speaker 4: if we don't stay consistent.
Speaker 1: With the pronounce here.
Speaker 4: Also posted once positive once that Adolf Hitler simply had
Speaker 4: his opinion of the Jews and he was entitled to it.
Speaker 1: So this is the whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: You can't say like, that's just your opinion man about
Speaker 3: Hitler and the Jews.
Speaker 4: Right, So, this brave, brave transgender person who's the first
Speaker 4: dude ever nominated for a Best Actress in Hollywood is
Speaker 4: nominated this wreck of a movie for thirteen Awards, just because.
Speaker 1: It's all about the ugly, nasty.
Speaker 4: Murderous cartel boss who longs to be a girl and
Speaker 4: his plucky lawyer helps him be one and that turns
Speaker 4: him into a saint. And we'll get more into that.
Speaker 4: But it's even worse than that. And I mentioned that
Speaker 4: that Mexican audiences hate it and Latinos in general are
Speaker 4: not digging it. But I hadn't really fully understood why
Speaker 4: the flaws of Amelia Perez I'm quoting from an article
Speaker 4: here in IndieWire were always more disturbing than out dated
Speaker 4: tropes or it's casting director's absurd suggestion that the production
Speaker 4: couldn't find qualified actors in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Analogies are imperfect, but to understand why Latinos Latinos are
Speaker 4: appalled by Amelia Perez, imagine this.
Speaker 1: The Academy lauds a clan.
Speaker 4: Rehabilitation musical like The Klan was really pretty cool themed
Speaker 4: musical set in the Deep South but shot in Paris.
Speaker 4: Its non American actors speak in British and Assy accents,
Speaker 4: and the few black actors are relegated to extras. That's
Speaker 4: what this movie is to Mexican people, Hispanic people, Central Americans.
Speaker 1: Whatever. It's like. Cartels aren't so bad.
Speaker 4: With no Mexican people, them slaughtering the language, speaking in
Speaker 4: the wrong accent, and and just like pretending like it's
Speaker 4: no big deal. Latinos, especially those from working class communities
Speaker 4: along the border of view cartels as the lowest of
Speaker 4: the low. These aren't code bound Hollywood thugs like Tony Montana.
Speaker 4: Cartels show no mercies. They kidnapped, torture, and dismember, including children.
Speaker 4: They're victims number in the hundreds of thousands with no
Speaker 4: end in sight. And it's infuriating to see a ward's
Speaker 4: bodies celebrate a film that repackages suffering as a kitchy
Speaker 4: telenovella with garish musical numbers.
Speaker 1: Equally frustrating.
Speaker 4: One more sentence is Hollywood's obliviousness to regional class divides, which, uh, well,
Speaker 4: that's kind of a distraction.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm just noodling this through.
Speaker 3: So and I am appalled by the idea that they
Speaker 3: put out this trans movie at this moment in time,
Speaker 3: and Hollywood jumped and gave it the most Oscar nominations
Speaker 3: in the history of motion pictures. I mean, give me
Speaker 3: a break. I mean, that's just so over the top,
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. But that particular critique about the way they
Speaker 3: treat the cartels, how's that different?
Speaker 1: Like I was just looking at.
Speaker 3: The latest list of the greatest movies of all time
Speaker 3: and Goodfellas was in the top ten, and it is
Speaker 3: one of my favorite movies of all time. How's that
Speaker 3: not kind of making the mob seem cool and like
Speaker 3: you kind of wish you were a part of it.
Speaker 1: That would be too long an answer comparing it to
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 3: I just mean, that's an overall thing where you take
Speaker 3: something back, you know, like Bonnie and Clyde or Butching
Speaker 3: Sun Dancer.
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that gets done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the concept of the anti hero, Yeah, absolutely it does.
Speaker 4: To be sure, some American outlets did cover the unease
Speaker 4: among the few Latinos who'd seen Amelia Perez in November,
Speaker 4: well before the Best Picture nomination, reported that acclaimed Mexican
Speaker 4: born raised cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto described it quote as completely
Speaker 4: an authentic. Renowned Mexican writer George Volpi blasted it as
Speaker 4: quote one of the crudest and most deceitful films of
Speaker 4: the twenty first century for its sheer incompetence. Even if
Speaker 4: you believe Latinos are overreacting, the film's blunders are blatant
Speaker 4: and they go into a list. But I think that
Speaker 4: it's it's a movie for black people, explaining that the
Speaker 4: Klan wasn't that bad without black people in the cast.
Speaker 4: Everybody speaking in aussy and British accents, and they get
Speaker 4: everything wrong and like dismiss the suffering is it doesn't
Speaker 4: really matter because this transgender clansman is now a really
Speaker 4: nice guy.
Speaker 1: Something's what this movie is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of them might be the timing. You
Speaker 3: know a lot of mob movies, if you had shown
Speaker 3: them in the neighborhoods where the mob was being so
Speaker 3: cruel at the time it was happening, the people in
Speaker 3: that neighborhod probably wouldn't thought it was so great, would
Speaker 3: have enjoyed it the same way.
Speaker 4: And the mob didn't have hundreds of thousands of disappeared
Speaker 4: victims of just from the general populace, including children.
Speaker 1: Important question, has the Oscar voting happened already?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: Because I want them, I want them to give the
Speaker 3: awards to these people. I want them to go up
Speaker 3: there and the crowd try to decide if they should
Speaker 3: cheer or not, and how they're.
Speaker 1: And I hope it's too late. I know with every
Speaker 1: fiber of me, I hope that.
Speaker 3: I hope they've already voted and this person's already set
Speaker 3: to win Best Actress.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be The movie has got to win ten
Speaker 1: Awardes Armstrong and Getty