1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Jetty enough He Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: will do a job with it too. We'll own it 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: jobs and housing for the people of the area. 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: Worth pointing out. As you can tell he's reading there. 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: This wasn't like just something he shot off the top 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: of his head. Somebody wrote that, correct, and he walked 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: into read it the whole The United States is going 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: to take over gozele thing. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: He's half serious about this. 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: We're joking last hour about how everybody's freaking out when 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: Trump he just he indicates what direction he wants to 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: go by making outrageous demands or statements or whatever, and 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: then the negotiations begin and it's gonna be fine. It's 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: the only thing that keeps HIMSNBC on the air is 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: freaking out over what Trump says, for instance, but not 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: around here. 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: We try to bring you what's happening, then help you 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: understand it. If we can. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 4: I will tell you this as insane as the idea 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: of US owning Gaza is. It's been what was described, 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 4: at least in the Wall Street Journal as a closely 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: held idea among a small group of senior advisors. 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Now I listened to Trump talk. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: And all like he as a real estate developer, like 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Dick Cheney and some of though there's other names I've forgotten. 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: Want to take over a rack that crowd. I mean, 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: I can't remember if they named names. I read this 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: a couple of hours ago. Taking control of the hotly 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 4: contested territory would put the US at the center of 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: the world's most complicated diplomatic and national security conflicts, raising 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: the prospect that Trump is signing up for exactly the 39 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: kind of foreign entanglement he told voters he would avoid. 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: Well, that is absolutely self happening. 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: Taking Gaza and holding it would make a rack seem 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: like taking over Nebraska. 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: It would certainly be the bet. The best case. It 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: would be very similar. Yeah, although it's a much smaller area. 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: Definitely that that that's an advantage. But oh my god. 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: So it's funny, and it's funny since he said yesterday, 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: I didn't even contemplated it in reality because I just 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 3: assume that's not on the table. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Right and I am. I don't know. 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say two thirds, one third, two thirds is 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: all right. He's signaling directionally that the time for farting 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: around is over right the Arab Muslim neighboring countries, you're 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: not going to turn your back and say it's Israel's 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: problem in the US is anymore, you're gonna help us, 55 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: or I'm gonna hurt you, or we're just gonna start 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 4: taking over giant swath's land. 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I definitely think that's the message. Yeah, that's 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: two thirds of it. 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: So when the other third of it is that he 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: and his advisors have been talking about this, wrote out 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: that statement and he was like, you could hear the 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: lust in his voice as a real estate developer, because 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, if you're not familiar with this, the Kaza 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: Strip is an astonishingly valuable piece of land. 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Globally speaking. 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: It is a beautiful, temperate, La like climate right by 67 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: the Mediterranean with nice hills and everything. I mean, it 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: would be You can't even imagine the value of that 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: land if you could get crazy Islam out of it. 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: And a third of me here's Trump talking about that, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: and I can hear the excitement in his voice, and 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: there's about a third of me that thinks he's at 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: least half serious. 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, let's hear some more of the Trump stuff so 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: we can discuss it all. 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Let it just roll on in order there, Michael. 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: This was not a decision made lightly. Everybody I've spoken 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: to loves the idea of the United States owning that 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 5: piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs. If 80 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 5: the United States can help to bring stability and peace 81 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: in the Middle East, we'll do that. 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: A quick question, where are the people going to be 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: when we have it? Somewhere somewhere else? He kind of 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: sort of gets to that, doesn't he. 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: We should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, 86 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: and there are many of them that want to do 87 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: this and build various domains that will ultimately be occupied 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: by the one point eight million Palestinians living in Gaza. 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Ending the death and destruction and frankly bad luck. This 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: could be paid for by neighboring countries of great wealth. 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: It could be one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, twelve, 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: It could be numerous sites, so it could be one 93 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: large site, but the people will be able to live 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: in comfort and peace. 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: To me, that my takeaway yesterday was he's telling Egypt 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: and Jordan particularly, you don't get to rile up your 97 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: people anymore about how awful it is for the Palestinians, 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: while at the same time not allowing a single Palestinian 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: into your country when you're right next door. 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: That game is over. Here's the rub. They're smart to 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: not let them in. The countries that have tried, you know, Lebanon, Jordan, 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: Kuwait at one point. 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: You know what they get. 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: They get angry Islamist revolutionaries in their country screws up 105 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: their country. Look at the Beirot Civil War if you 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: want to, you want to see bloodshed, sectarian bloodshed. So 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: that's the rub. There's and it's funny. We have a 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: lot of new folks listening new radio stations. Thank you 109 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: very much for being here. Give it a little while 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: you get used to it. It's not like a lot 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: of talk shows that always try. 112 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: To New Hampshire Hello for Oklahoma City, Yes, and others. 113 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh, from the country, Hello Tulsa, Fort Collins, Colorado? Love 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: Fort Collins? Anyway? 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Or were we? Oh? 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: A lot of talk show hosts are constantly trying to 118 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: sell you certainty. They know everything all the time, every 119 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: single second. There are times that there is uncertainty. For instance, 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: I'm looking through some of the specifics that Trump said, 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: and a top advisor said, and and and I don't 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: want to be inflammatory, I do, but if you were 123 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: to momentarily take seriously the idea that, Okay, the US 124 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: is gonna quote unquote take over Gaza temporarily, We're gonna 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 4: relocate all the Palestinians, temporarily, find them nice places to 126 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: live in other lands. All right, we're gonna rebuild it 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: into a fabulous seaside resort town with jobs for everyone 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: and well of plenty. And then uh yeah, yeah, the 129 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: plan is we'll let all the angry, militant Palestinians right 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: back in. Now, if you heard that as a realist, 131 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: what would you think. 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: What's the last part there? Exactly? They're gonna clear them 133 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: out and not let them back in. 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: And Israel having decided post October seventh, something is gonna 135 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 4: change fundamentally, I mean really really change. We're not going 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: to have uneasy peace with people who want to wipe 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 4: us off the map because we're Jews anymore. That's over 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: and throughout the history of mankind. And again I'm not 139 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: saying this is true. I'm just saying it's in your 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: pie chart of possibilities in the history of mankind. The 141 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: way you settled an intractable situation like that is you 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: got rid of the people occupy in that land. 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Where are we supposed to go? I don't know, not 144 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: here in short Israel, And. 145 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: It's ally the United States are going to take over 146 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: that land and assuring a fundamental change of who's in 147 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: what place in the Middle East. 148 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, let me uh with this. 149 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: This was in Mark Alprin's political newsletter this morning, in 150 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: which he wrote his newsletters called the Wide World of News. 151 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: He said, this from a Wide World of News reader, 152 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: one of the smartest and most anti Trump people I 153 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: have ever met, in a series of emails to me, 154 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: and I'll just read a little bit of it. Trump 155 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: made me love him. This is from one of the 156 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: most anti Trump people Alprin's ever met. Wow, Trump made 157 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: me love him. He spoke to the reality of the 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: situation that a winning side must now emerge, and it 159 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: must be us. The cycle of killing between jew and 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: Arab Muslims must end, and he is Colossus, will make 161 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: it happen. Quite stunning, quite obvious, quite visionary, quite outrageous 162 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: to everyone but me. He's got MSNBC spinning. He stunned 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: Bbie and left him speechless. Amazing theater. But the message 164 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: is somebody needs to emerge the victor, and the time 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: is now. 166 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: This ends exactly. Yeah, And you know it's funny. 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: I've been pitching that idea for a while and some 168 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: people probably think I sound like a lunatic. But Israel's 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 4: peace plan is to defeat their enemies, and defeat them 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: to the point that they are no longer an enemy, 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: They're not a threat in any way. It's also Homas's plan, 172 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: Rand's plan the other direction. Well, and given that fact, 173 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 4: Israel's flexibility to like have a a half solution, a 174 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: peace loving patient half solution where they go back to 175 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: something October Sixthy, No, they've decided they're not going to 176 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 4: do that anymore. What does that look like in reality? 177 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: This is what I've been saying for a long time 178 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: it looks like the complete and total annihilation and or 179 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: removal of those who have vowed to wipe every jew 180 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: off the. 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Face of the map, particularly Israel. 182 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: All Right, that's something we haven't figured out in the 183 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: modern world with a when and you know, uh, video cameras, 184 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: every video cameras everywhere in modern sensibilities and all that 185 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: sort of thing. 186 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Is wars have always ended when one. 187 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Side wins to the point that the other side has 188 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: to give up whatever they got to give up to 189 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: make the fighting stop. And we've stopped doing that around 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: the world for the most part, except for in like 191 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: your god awful parts of the world where nobody cares 192 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: what happens. 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: We've stopped doing that. 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: And the only way for this to end is for 195 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: one side to just obliterate the other side. 196 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can stomach that. I don't 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: know if I can stomach. 198 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: That right right, Well, I just think that the Barack Obama, 199 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: John carry Joe Biden, to the extent that he had 200 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: any thoughts, they believe that not only could we eliminate 201 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: unconditional surrender type conflicts mostly which I think is a 202 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: good idea if you can do it diplomatically. Don't kill people, 203 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: don't hurt people, don't wreck their stuff. But they thought 204 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: you could. You could do that completely one hundred percent, 205 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: eliminate wars of annihilation or total victory. It's not realistic. 206 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: Human beings will not cease to be human beings just 207 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: because you want them to stop anyway. Again, though I 208 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 4: can't decide which of those options Trump is most enthusiastic about. 209 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: The Other thing about Trump is that. 210 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: He is he's a bullet of china shop negotiator, but 211 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: he's very good at a couple of things. Number One, 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: he understands one hundred percent where leverage is in a negotiation. 213 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: He is acutely aware of that, like a like a fox. 214 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: And he's also very good at understanding if you're not 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: willing to walk away from a negotiation, you have lost 216 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 4: a significant amount of leverage. And so he will walk 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: into something like a bullet or china shop, and he 218 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: has two, three, even four outcomes in mind that might 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: be acceptable under certain conditions. And I'm not sure which 220 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: one of these he's most enthusiastic about here, but the 221 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: whole palette is available here. 222 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: How's is Maga World taking him seriously but not literally 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: when he says he was asked about we got another 224 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: one here, I know where about a time, but. 225 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I keep rambling going sorry. 226 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: Uh, dang it, we got the three? 227 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I don't have the right sheet. Go ahead, Yeah, 228 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, Michael, mister president. 229 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: Given what you've said about Gaza to the US and troops. 230 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: To help secure the security back. 231 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: There as far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what 232 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 5: is necessary. 233 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: I mean, nothing could be less Maga than that, right, 234 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean, that's been his whole thing since before he 235 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: even started running in to twenty fifteen, the stupid wars 236 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: in the Middle East and everything like that. And he's 237 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: he's talking about sending troops to Gaza. How did people 238 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: react to that? I assume you are taking him seriously, 239 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: not literally. You don't think that will ever act really happened. 240 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: That's never gonna happen. 241 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: If I was Tucker Carlson's dog, I'd run for my 242 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: life because he's looking for something to kick right now. 243 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: You can't believe that. What do you think you think 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: he means it? 245 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: I don't think he means text line four KFTC. 246 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: That tund that the price of a Super Bowl commercial 247 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 6: just went up from seven million dollars to eight million dollars. 248 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Here's an ad that they're planning to run in the 249 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: second quarter. 250 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: Oh my god, why didn't anyone tell us that a 251 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: Super Bowl ad cost. 252 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: Eight million dollars? We don't have eight million dollars. We're 253 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: barely hanging on by a thread over here. 254 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: It was the last time anyone went to a Best 255 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: Buy even we just buy this crap on Amazon. 256 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Now this also counts as an ad. Oh god, oh god, 257 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: turn away best fine. Imagine that. Well, they didn't really 258 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: think that through. 259 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Super Bowl, the newest JK. Rowling release 260 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: ought to be Harry Potter in The Secret Playbook. Ooh, 261 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: I was just reading about how the Chiefs have a 262 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: just a The reason they always look so great and 263 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: whoop up on teams in the playoffs after stumbling, fumbling, 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: bumbling their way to just barely good enough season. Well, 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: they had a wonderful season, but like each individual game 266 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 4: they would just do. 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: Enough to win. Is that they keep all. 268 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: Sorts of clever innovative plays secret. They don't use them 269 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: during the regular season. They have an entire Now it's 270 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: the playoffs playbook. 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a risky maneuver. Seems to be working for him. Yeah, yeah, 272 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: it seems nuts. 273 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: But anyway, speaking of nuts, so perhaps you've heard Donald 274 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 4: Jay said, the US is going to take over the 275 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: Gaza Strip, won't it. We'll be responsible for it, We'll 276 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: clean it out, we'll rebuild it. Palestinians will go away. 277 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: Then we'll let them back when it's all rebuilt and stuff. 278 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: And it's it's I'm almost certain is straight out of 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: the Will Invade Panama playbook. And we got some great 280 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: sensible No, you're not going to be in China's back pocket, 281 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: concessions from Panama, really productive negotiations. I'm pretty sure it's that. 282 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, Jack, I'll let you analyze. The 283 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: White House put out multiple pages. 284 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: Just last night. Tonight, President Donald J. 285 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: Trump announced a bold vision for the United States to 286 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 4: secure lasting piece in Gaza. The definition of insanity is 287 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: doing the same thing over and over again expecting a 288 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: different result. The killing must stop, and President Trump will 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: finally ensure there is peace. President Trump's visionary proposal and 290 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: relentless pursuit Piece was immediately praised. Former US Ambassador at 291 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: Israel I'm not going to name some of these people 292 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: just to save time, but Trump's pose USA takeover the 293 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: Gaza strip may sound out of the box, but it 294 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 4: is brilliant, historic, and the only idea I've heard in 295 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: fifty years that has a chance of bringing security, piece 296 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: and prosperity to this troubled region. Former Deputy National Security 297 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: Advisors said, today we heard President Trump come out and 298 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: say what no American leader has had the courage to 299 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: say before, which is that the United States is willing 300 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: to step in here and play the leadership role we 301 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: need to play. Let's see News Nations Leland. I know 302 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: his act, he's a journalist, but there's a lot of appetite, 303 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: especially in the US, to say the way we've been 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: dealing with the past Palestinians for the past fifty years 305 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: hasn't worked. Why not give something new a try. Senator 306 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: Rick Scott A. Most terrorists murdered babies and burned people alive. 307 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: They're evil monsters. Thank god, we finally have a president 308 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: who's committed to standing with Israel and working with NET 309 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: and Yahoo. Get the terrorists out of Gaza, bring every 310 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: hostage home. The list goes on and on, pages of 311 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: statements in support of this policy op including Marjorie Taylor Green. 312 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 313 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: I heard a bunch of them, including Lindsay Graham, where 314 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, that's an idea. 315 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: I think it is a directional gesture. It is the 316 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: chantic crazy. 317 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: No, I'm not freaking out because I don't think there's 318 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: any chance we're going to take over Gaza. 319 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: So no, no, But what does he really want? What 320 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: he really wants is a serious shakeup of the status. 321 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: Quote what will that look like? If I may quote 322 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: the Spice Girl, tell me what you want? What you 323 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: really really want? 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: That's where we have found. 325 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: If you missed your segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 326 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: Getty on demand. 327 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 328 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 7: Must season control of USAID, which provides humanitarian assistance around 329 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 7: the world, but Musk who is the world riches man 330 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 7: posting we spent the weekend feeding USAID into the wood chipper. 331 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 7: The State Department is now starting to evacuate all USAID 332 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 7: staff who are on foreign assignments worldwide, some fifteen hundred 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 7: to two thousand people. The goal is to bring all 334 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 7: those workers and their families back to the United States 335 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 7: by this weekend. 336 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 4: All of this stuff is unfolding better than I could 337 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: have imagined, a lot of it, including the reaction to 338 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: some of the Doge stuff that's going on. Give me 339 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: a sixty one sixty two back to back there. 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 6: Michael Doze is not a real government agency. Doze has 341 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 6: no authority to shut programs down or ignore federal law. 342 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 6: DOJ's conduct, I said, cannot be allowed to stand. 343 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: Watching Elon Musk because he's the guy who's trying to centralize. 344 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: All power behind him, and he hasn't been elected to anything. 345 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: So whatever the Atlantic cover story this month, are they 346 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: a monthly or weekly? It's a website, The Atlantic, the 347 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 3: Constitutional crisis is here with a picture of Elon staring 348 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: up in the Capitol. 349 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Constitutional Crisis. 350 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: The part of this that I love is that although 351 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: this is exactly what Trump ran. 352 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: On, right, the reaction to. 353 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: The government and part of the country to wanting to 354 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: get rid of government employees should. 355 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Tell you something. 356 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, why why would you be so resistant? I mean, 357 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: unless it's your sister who's going to lose your job, 358 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: and nobody owns a loser job and have to go 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: find another job. I mean, it's not pleasant no matter what. 360 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: But other than that. I mean, why would you be 361 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: against the government shrinking or getting fewer employees, Why would 362 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: why would your immediate reaction be so emotional and fearful. 363 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: Well, that's why the progressive scam, I think is so 364 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 4: evilly brilliant. They've convinced a large number of people in 365 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: the US. And maybe people are just inclined, you know, 366 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: by their psychology that they were born with to lean 367 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: in this direction. But they've convinced many, many millions of 368 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 4: people that the government is good and benevolent. It not 369 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: only is meant to solve all of your problems, but 370 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: it will solve all solve all of your problems if 371 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: you give them enough money and enough power. And people 372 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 4: would hear that couple of sentences, I just uttered and say, yeah, yeah, 373 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 4: they are here to solve all of our problems. 374 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: Well, for instance, this US AID thing, money we give 375 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: to various countries around the world. And we've heard the 376 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: list in the last week or so about how we 377 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: gave you know, seventy million dollars to Ireland for a 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: transgender play. 379 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: Or something like that. But I have more. 380 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Yes, But now they're talking about recalling thousands of US 381 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: eight employees from foreign countries by Saturday. 382 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: Like fast, you gotta get out. 383 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Josh Rogan, who we really really like generally, but I 384 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: don't like his take on this. ABC reporting that State 385 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Department is moving to recall thousands of US eight employees 386 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: from foreign countries. 387 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Shame. 388 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: These are people who have dedicated their careers to helping. 389 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: Out blah blah blah blah blah. 390 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: And one of my favorite pundits reacted, this is not 391 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: a military deployment. These are jobs, not religious missions. They 392 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: signed up to serve their country. Spare me right. I agree. 393 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's part of this that seems a little chaotic 394 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: to me, like the jan and six pardons and that 395 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: sort of thing. I think we could probably do a 396 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: better job if we take our time. It doesn't need 397 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: to be by the end of the week. It's more 398 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: of the generalized squealing about reducing these programs that bothers. 399 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: These are some sort of missionaries, These people that worked 400 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: in government given their lives to the church, which is 401 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: government in your eyes, and just you. 402 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: Don't understand what you're doing. I was reading another article. 403 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: It was a I forget which newspaper it was, but 404 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: it was a like a write in give me advice 405 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: sort of thing about how my partner and I had 406 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: bought a house in this area, and now because we could, 407 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: we didn't have to go into the office. But now 408 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: with the evil Republicans, they didn't say evil, but now 409 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: with the Republican administration, my partner's gonna have to go 410 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: into the office and we need to sell our home 411 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah. Yeah, welcome to the freaking world. 412 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: Do you know how many people You know, how many 413 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: people have had to sell their homes because their jobs changed? Lots, 414 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: lots and lots, including me, including my dad, including Joe, 415 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 3: including tons of people. 416 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens. 417 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: You are so insulated from the real world, you government employees, 418 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: you have no idea what you're talking about. And it 419 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: makes me furious. 420 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 421 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: So, USAID managed Mordan forty billion dollars and has no 422 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: fewer than ten thousand employees around the world. And some 423 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: of the programs they run are very, very good. I 424 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: think we'd all be in favor of them, or most 425 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: of them. Most of them are are definitely defensible, including 426 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: on a purely real politic level where we're winning friends 427 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: and influencing people and keeping China at bay in various 428 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: parts of the world. But having said that, and here's 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 4: not only is this list amusing, but it leads me 430 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: to my ultimate point. Let's see, So the USA, who's 431 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: who's writing this article? I thought it was really good. 432 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 4: Oh it's the editorial board of the journal BAA BAA 433 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: US eight is hardly full of Mother Teresa's and only 434 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: want to do good without a political agenda. And the 435 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 4: House Foreign Affairs chairman sites is some examples. The agency 436 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: in the Biden years supported electric vehicles in Vietnam. I mean, 437 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: because where would America be if people were just riding 438 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: or on in regular cars in Vietnam? And a transgender 439 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: clinic in India. A Serbian LGBT group called the groupa 440 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 4: Izaji received a million and a half dollars to advance diversity, 441 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 4: equity and inclusion in Serbia's workplaces in business communities. 442 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: Many many other examples. Also. 443 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: An analysis by the Middle East Forum says one hundred 444 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: and sixty four million dollars of USAID money has supported 445 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: radical organizations around the world, and one hundred and twenty 446 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: two million of that aid was going to groups aligned 447 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: with foreign terrorist organizations. 448 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: We are funding to the tune of hundreds of millions. 449 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: Of dollars, the very people who are killing our soldiers 450 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: and our people if they stray into the wrong part 451 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: of the world. 452 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: Well, to your point of the air examples of it 453 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: doing good, and I'm sure there are, Oh, I'm not 454 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: close to my ultimate point. 455 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: You can probably answer yours one of your points, but 456 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: one of your points being there are you know, there's 457 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: money spent that's doing good. And then the idea that 458 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: there are, you know, domestically employees or programs or whatever, 459 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: they're good. 460 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Fine, then we'll bring them back. 461 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: Let's go too far, let's go way too far on 462 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: cutting the government. And if it turns out, you know, 463 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: we really need that agency, it'll be easy to put back. 464 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: We seem to be really good at growing the government. 465 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: That never seems to be a problem. 466 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: You don't care if kids dive ades in Africa anyway, 467 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: that would be the response. So anyway to work to 468 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 4: my ultimate point, the list of these dumb, wasteful, or 469 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: like in a bloody way, self defeating expenditures. They're not 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: only stupid and amusing or frustrating, they're proof that here 471 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: I put like this, the fact that those expenditures exist 472 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: proves that the agency is utterly corrupt. The problem is 473 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: not those expenditures specifically, although that's a problem, but the 474 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: agency that would permit that and promote that and be 475 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: happy of it and proud of it. That is a 476 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: disease agency that Oh yes, Jack says. 477 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: Let's go too far. Yeah, yeah, they're they're crazy people. 478 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 3: For one thing, you're crazy people, way out of step 479 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: with the mainstream of America. If you saw how many 480 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: people would have to be involved, maybe shockingly few would 481 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: have to sign off on millions of dollars for some 482 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: sort of trans clinic in India. I mean, that's not 483 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: in step with the American priorities. 484 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: What was my other point on that? Oh yeah, And 485 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: to your point, they're they're corrupt. 486 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: But that's the stuff that we can look at and 487 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: we obviously scratch our head and think, oh, okay, you 488 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: need to justify that. How about the programs that sound 489 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: pretty There are lots of programs in the United States 490 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: that sound great and they still don't accomplish anything. You're 491 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: gonna tell me we don't have lots of those around 492 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: the world that their intention is great, but they're just 493 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: flabby or poorly run or it didn't work or whatever. 494 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: You know, that happens all the time, all the time. 495 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: And according to virtually everybody I trust who's looked into 496 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: USA through the years, it has become this incredibly self congratulatory, 497 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: self regarding branch of the government that views itself as 498 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: above the government. 499 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what above taxpayers. 500 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: That was the other point that I flit it out 501 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: of my head was the it shows how insulated they 502 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: think they are, how nobody's watching, and they can do 503 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: whatever they want because they know how unpopular some of 504 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: this stuff would be. But they're just so confident nobody's 505 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: paying any attention. We can do whatever we want and 506 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: nobody's gonna notice or care. 507 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: Well. I think it's even worse than that. 508 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: I think their beliefs not that nobody's watching, but that 509 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: nobody dare criticize them, and nobody should have that right. 510 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: Which leads me to my favorite tweet I mentioned earlier. 511 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: I can't believe the US is about to invade Gaza 512 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: and our government has zero dollars to put on any 513 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: transgender musicals there. 514 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: Speaking of which, the self declownment of Hollywood through this 515 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: ridiculous gender bending Madness Movie, Amelia Perez. It's even funnier 516 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: than I thought, and I thought it was funny. 517 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get to that next segment. That 518 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: is great. 519 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to jam in this one thing just because 520 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: we were talking about USAID. This is a tweet from 521 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 3: Peter Baker, who's an incredibly smart guy. He's got one 522 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: of the most important journalistic positions on planet Earth. He's 523 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: the White House reporter for the New York Times. Smart guy, 524 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: And this is what he tweeted out. Total USAID annual 525 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: spending to provide food, medicine, shelter, and other services to 526 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: impoverished countries around the world. 527 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: Thirty eight billion dollars. 528 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: Total increase in Elon Musk's net worth since November election 529 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty six billion. 530 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's the whole tweet. 531 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: Uh, what's the next part because that's completely what really. 532 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: The hell is that? Oh? 533 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: My right? 534 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: And so that lands with the New York Times today, right? 535 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: Does that land with the New York Times crowd with? 536 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: Oh? Devastating, That's just devastating. 537 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't understand the way you people look at 538 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 3: the world. 539 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: It just I can't even wrap my hand around it. 540 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Let me this rabbit down its hole. 541 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: So if, for instance, Tesla had had the worst quarter 542 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: ever and Elon's wealth had dropped. 543 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: By thirty percent, that would excuse or justify a different 544 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: level of government spending. 545 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: I don't I don't quite get the nexus there, and 546 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: there isn't one. 547 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: It's just kind of scary sounding, emotion provoking, progressive. 548 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: No, somebody's rich and it's not me, is the whole message. 549 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: I think. I don't even know. 550 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the transgender movie thing is great and a 551 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: bunch of stuff. 552 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: Stay with us, arm strong. Yeti's very nice to meet. 553 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: I let you know about change up a ratio. 554 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: I see, I see men to women, A woman, two men. 555 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: The feel good hit at the springtime for at least 556 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: hit music goal. 557 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: Amelia gomet is the female Alia Press is the female 558 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: sounding voice, the former guy that's now a woman that's 559 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: nominated for an Oscar. 560 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: It's Zoe Saldana, who's a sturdy and fine actress and 561 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: unfortunately a completely embarrassing movie a self beclouding. It is 562 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: the most exquisite self declouning in the history of self 563 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: declouding Hollywood, driving like the Last Ten Nails in its 564 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: own coffin by nominating. 565 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: This horrific wreck of a movie for thirteen oscars. 566 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 3: So this person tweeted the other day we mentioned this 567 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: yesterday tweet or tweeted a couple of years ago. She 568 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: had tweets in twenty twenty about George Floyd, writing in 569 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: a thread that she believed very few people ever carried 570 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: about the drug addict swindler George Floyd. She also had 571 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: tweeted out remarks about Muslims, calling Islam an infection for 572 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: humanity and describing Muslim migration to Spain as a planned invasion. 573 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: Those kinds of things have got her on the wrong 574 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: side of the wolf crowd. 575 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: Her being a male, but it makes it very confusing 576 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: if we don't stay consistent. 577 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: With the pronounce here. 578 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: Also posted once positive once that Adolf Hitler simply had 579 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: his opinion of the Jews and he was entitled to it. 580 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: So this is the whoa, whoa, whoa. 581 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: You can't say like, that's just your opinion man about 582 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: Hitler and the Jews. 583 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: Right, So, this brave, brave transgender person who's the first 584 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: dude ever nominated for a Best Actress in Hollywood is 585 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: nominated this wreck of a movie for thirteen Awards, just because. 586 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: It's all about the ugly, nasty. 587 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: Murderous cartel boss who longs to be a girl and 588 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: his plucky lawyer helps him be one and that turns 589 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: him into a saint. And we'll get more into that. 590 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: But it's even worse than that. And I mentioned that 591 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: that Mexican audiences hate it and Latinos in general are 592 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: not digging it. But I hadn't really fully understood why 593 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: the flaws of Amelia Perez I'm quoting from an article 594 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: here in IndieWire were always more disturbing than out dated 595 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: tropes or it's casting director's absurd suggestion that the production 596 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: couldn't find qualified actors in Mexico. 597 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. 598 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: Analogies are imperfect, but to understand why Latinos Latinos are 599 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 4: appalled by Amelia Perez, imagine this. 600 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: The Academy lauds a clan. 601 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: Rehabilitation musical like The Klan was really pretty cool themed 602 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 4: musical set in the Deep South but shot in Paris. 603 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: Its non American actors speak in British and Assy accents, 604 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: and the few black actors are relegated to extras. That's 605 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: what this movie is to Mexican people, Hispanic people, Central Americans. 606 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Whatever. It's like. Cartels aren't so bad. 607 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: With no Mexican people, them slaughtering the language, speaking in 608 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: the wrong accent, and and just like pretending like it's 609 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: no big deal. Latinos, especially those from working class communities 610 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: along the border of view cartels as the lowest of 611 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 4: the low. These aren't code bound Hollywood thugs like Tony Montana. 612 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: Cartels show no mercies. They kidnapped, torture, and dismember, including children. 613 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: They're victims number in the hundreds of thousands with no 614 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: end in sight. And it's infuriating to see a ward's 615 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 4: bodies celebrate a film that repackages suffering as a kitchy 616 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 4: telenovella with garish musical numbers. 617 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Equally frustrating. 618 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: One more sentence is Hollywood's obliviousness to regional class divides, which, uh, well, 619 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: that's kind of a distraction. 620 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm just noodling this through. 621 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: So and I am appalled by the idea that they 622 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: put out this trans movie at this moment in time, 623 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: and Hollywood jumped and gave it the most Oscar nominations 624 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: in the history of motion pictures. I mean, give me 625 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: a break. I mean, that's just so over the top, 626 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. But that particular critique about the way they 627 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: treat the cartels, how's that different? 628 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: Like I was just looking at. 629 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: The latest list of the greatest movies of all time 630 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: and Goodfellas was in the top ten, and it is 631 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: one of my favorite movies of all time. How's that 632 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: not kind of making the mob seem cool and like 633 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: you kind of wish you were a part of it. 634 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: That would be too long an answer comparing it to 635 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: this movie. 636 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: I just mean, that's an overall thing where you take 637 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: something back, you know, like Bonnie and Clyde or Butching 638 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: Sun Dancer. 639 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's that gets done. 640 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the concept of the anti hero, Yeah, absolutely it does. 641 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: To be sure, some American outlets did cover the unease 642 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: among the few Latinos who'd seen Amelia Perez in November, 643 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: well before the Best Picture nomination, reported that acclaimed Mexican 644 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: born raised cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto described it quote as completely 645 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: an authentic. Renowned Mexican writer George Volpi blasted it as 646 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: quote one of the crudest and most deceitful films of 647 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: the twenty first century for its sheer incompetence. Even if 648 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: you believe Latinos are overreacting, the film's blunders are blatant 649 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 4: and they go into a list. But I think that 650 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: it's it's a movie for black people, explaining that the 651 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 4: Klan wasn't that bad without black people in the cast. 652 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: Everybody speaking in aussy and British accents, and they get 653 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 4: everything wrong and like dismiss the suffering is it doesn't 654 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 4: really matter because this transgender clansman is now a really 655 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 4: nice guy. 656 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: Something's what this movie is. 657 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and some of them might be the timing. You 658 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: know a lot of mob movies, if you had shown 659 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: them in the neighborhoods where the mob was being so 660 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: cruel at the time it was happening, the people in 661 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 3: that neighborhod probably wouldn't thought it was so great, would 662 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 3: have enjoyed it the same way. 663 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 4: And the mob didn't have hundreds of thousands of disappeared 664 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: victims of just from the general populace, including children. 665 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: Important question, has the Oscar voting happened already? 666 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 6: Uh? 667 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: Because I want them, I want them to give the 668 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: awards to these people. I want them to go up 669 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: there and the crowd try to decide if they should 670 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,240 Speaker 3: cheer or not, and how they're. 671 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: And I hope it's too late. I know with every 672 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: fiber of me, I hope that. 673 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: I hope they've already voted and this person's already set 674 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: to win Best Actress. 675 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be The movie has got to win ten 676 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: Awardes Armstrong and Getty