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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast simply enjoys the Buffet. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I enjoined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Cessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rose.

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Speaker 1: That's all what's top buys? Hey, Dan, what's happening Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Thursday Show? I'm loving this week fifteen. This isn't sometimes

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Speaker 1: those crappy April podcast Mark. Are you willing to say

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Speaker 1: a great team, they weren't competitive the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: They've just gotten crushed. Kaepernews beat him once. So sorry, Dan,

427
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all were ruling against you here, but

428
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: please switch your pick. I'm not picking the forty niners.

429
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: But I think this has been a great team for

430
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: a long period of time, right, and I think this

431
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: is this is the end of the road, and I

432
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: think they're gonna go out fighting, but I don't think

433
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: it'll be enough. We're all on the same page on this.

434
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: I just don't think it'll be embarrassing for him. Whatever, guys,

435
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 1: moving on to our next game, the Dallas Cowboys, Yes,

436
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Speaker 1: speaking of Thanksgiving, a rematch the Dallas Cowboys against the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. And this is a game in which the

438
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are trying to bounce back for really got embarrassed

439
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: in their building by the Eagles. The Eagles moved into

440
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: first place. Now the Cowboys have tied the Eagles again.

441
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: They picked up a game last week, and uh, this

442
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: is a game in which three of us in this

443
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: group believe that the Eagles will again beat the Cowboys,

444
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: but one of us disagree. And when that happens on

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Speaker 1: the around the NFL podcast we called hero pick, and

446
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: in this case it is the great Who was it?

447
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: Greg Rosen? The ultimate hero? Mark I got a hero

448
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: pick on this, Mark Seler, defend your hero. I will

449
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: defend it. I think that, you know, when you look

450
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Speaker 1: at these division matchups, I think people want want to

451
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: bury the Cowboys, not Dan. Dan has been a Cowboys

452
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: guy here, but they want to say this is the

453
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Speaker 1: end for Dallas. You always use the word people when

454
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Speaker 1: you want to take shots at me across the board.

455
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: I think people look at Dallas, is there a team

456
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Speaker 1: that's not going to make the playoffs. I like what

457
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Speaker 1: they did. They went against Chicago. I thought they got

458
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Speaker 1: back on their game land. They showed basically the strengths

459
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: from the earlier part of this year translated is the

460
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Speaker 1: Marcot murray out of bed. Yet I feel like aftery're

461
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: getting seventy touches a soldier field that seems strange. I

462
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: thought he looked fresh. I mean, I think he'll be fine.

463
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: I think that they you know, they're bye week came

464
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: at the perfect time. This one thing, these NFC East

465
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: divisional games. I just went with the split. Philly went

466
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: into Dallas and stole one. I just say Dallas doing

467
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: the same thing. They didn't steal one, that's all right,

468
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: that's why they dropped a bomb on him. I would say,

469
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: though Mark Sanchez did not look good last week. If

470
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Speaker 1: he I could see him potentially laying another egg. Well,

471
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Speaker 1: that was against Seattle, and that's almost what I would

472
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Speaker 1: call in aberrations. I think that's gonna be a game

473
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Speaker 1: where Philly will bounce back on offense that I'm not

474
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: looking at them to do reproduce what happened against the Seahawks.

475
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 1: Dallas showed that they had trouble with Philadelphia. I think

476
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a real tight, high scoring game. I

477
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Speaker 1: picked the Eagles because I think they're clearly the better team.

478
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: Their defense is playing at a really high level over

479
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Speaker 1: the past month. They even in the Seahawks game, Russell

480
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: Wilson pulled some plays out of you nowhere to watch

481
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: it there kids, kids could be watching the But but

482
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: that that that's outside of structure. The Fletcher Cox is

483
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: playing like a top three or four defensive player right now,

484
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: in the top three or four is playing like a

485
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Speaker 1: top three or four defensive player in the NFL. He

486
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: is dominant, and I think that's been the difference. This

487
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: is a really good defense now and they weren't earlier

488
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Speaker 1: in the year. If you're gonna make a case for

489
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, they really made a big deal

490
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: about They had the short week last time, and Romo

491
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Speaker 1: had the injury and he couldn't get his normal practice

492
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: routine in, he couldn't take the pain killing injection. And

493
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: now he's had a nice long rest until this game,

494
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: and he did move around pretty well in that Chicago game,

495
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: but he still isn't the same guy that's gonna push

496
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Speaker 1: the ball down the field. And I think you have

497
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Speaker 1: a team that's gonna make big plays in Philly and

498
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: a team that has to go twelve plays to score

499
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Speaker 1: every touchdown in Dallas. And that's why the Eagles. Greg

500
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago on the show was bemoaning

501
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: the fact that he picked Philly over Seattle, realizing after

502
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: the fact that it was a big mistake. Same thing

503
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 1: is going to happen again. And all three of you,

504
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Speaker 1: and you gentlemen know that I love, even though I

505
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: get shots about it, love the national pastime baseball. And

506
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I love it his stats and

507
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: and milestone numbers and football there doesn't have the same

508
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: type of ring with that type of stuff, But two

509
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: thousand yards as a running back does have that glow

510
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: and it's a special number to Marco Murray. Three four

511
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: yards away. He needs average one thirty one over the

512
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: next three weeks. That's not impossible. He could could be

513
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: a two thousand yard running back. How do you feel

514
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: about the fact that if your team isn't the Yankees,

515
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: you just have to tear it down every few years

516
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: as soon as you get good players because they get

517
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: too expensive. Great sport, Dan, I'm not interested in this

518
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: debate right now. I have twenty six rings to fall

519
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Speaker 1: back on. Good sir, and paul O'Neil. We stole Pauli

520
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: from you. The Reds they had him and they gave

521
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: him to us of Bobby Kelly to send those rings

522
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: to the hands. Anyway, moving on, Paul Oi was a

523
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: great Yankee. The Denver Broncos head to San Diego to

524
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: face the Chargers. The Denver Broncos, of course, they leaned

525
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: hard on their running game of late, and we've talked

526
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: a little bit about Peyton Manning falling off statistically of

527
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: late and whether that is something to be curious about.

528
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: As we head towards the playoffs, they face a Chargers

529
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: team that really needs a win here. While they're eight

530
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: in five, not bad position, but they can't really afford

531
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: to stumble. Here another game where the three of us

532
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: picked one team, the Denver Broncos, and one other person

533
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: picked the Chargers. Who is that person? The man speaking right,

534
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Daniel Hans. I picked the Chargers because, first of all,

535
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Speaker 1: I am loyal to the team around the NFL as West.

536
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, perhaps to a fault, but you know what,

537
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: when I make a decision, I stand by it. I'm

538
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: gonna ride this to the end. And I think this

539
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: is a spot where the Chargers are gonna take care

540
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: of business against the Broncos team that I'm sorry they're

541
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: due for a loss. I don't think they're gonna get

542
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: the one seed. I think they're the two seed. Twelve

543
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: and four sounds right there, tenant three right now. They

544
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: could lose the game and still be fine to get

545
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: that two seed. The Patriots are gonna get the one seed.

546
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I know that, So I think the Chargers need the

547
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: game more. I love Philip Rivers in the spot at home. Um.

548
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll fill that building up with Chargers fans this

549
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: time around, not like what they did against Sunday against

550
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So I like it. I like, I feel

551
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: good about the zero pick and I am rolling forward

552
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: with a team of around the NFL. We gave the

553
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: Patriots a lot of credit for winning in San Diego

554
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: a different sort of way, like on a day that

555
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't play that well, and it's even but like,

556
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: let's give the Broncos credit for doing that. This is

557
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: a team that in the past would not have been

558
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: able to win the game on defense and with the

559
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: running game like C. J. Anderson, And that's I mean,

560
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: they put a strangle hold on a pretty good Bills

561
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: team on a day where Peyton Manning got very little

562
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: done through the air. It was a relatively routine game,

563
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: even if it looked close at the end. And that's

564
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: impressive to me that they can win even when Manning

565
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: is not playing that one. I would never look at

566
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: John Fox's a young Bill Belichicker. He's older than what

567
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: they're both old guys, but like like him in the

568
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: making a mentorship where oh, you know, my quarterbacks not

569
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: playing at a high level the way has maybe in

570
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: put previous weeks, so I'll change the offense and do

571
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: what we do a different way. The Broncos haven't been

572
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: have having had to do that, and I'm impressed with

573
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the fact that they essentially took what was a pretty

574
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: moribund ground game and are able to amp it up

575
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: behind the line that's had some ups and downs. I

576
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: think more of that. I think the Broncos are telling

577
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: us something about Peyton Manning's arm right now, But you

578
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I thought it shouldn't it be okay in San Diego,

579
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: be nice and warm at least? Well. I think there's

580
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: more too within that. Remember two years ago and oh

581
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: the hubbub over Eli having a tired arm. I think

582
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: he's not the only Manning with a tired arm. I

583
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: think Peyton Manning's got something going on well, and he

584
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: keeps trying to force the ball down the field because

585
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: I think defenses are allowing that. I mean, you saw

586
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: it last week where he pushed about three balls down

587
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the field, most of one of them he hit one

588
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: know him picked off a couple of them. Looked pretty ugly.

589
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: But to me, it's because they're they're almost daring Manning

590
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: to go deep and for now he's still been going

591
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: for it, and yet it hasn't really worked very well.

592
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: One thing in Dan's favor, I mean Mike McCoy, who

593
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: spent obviously a lot of time with with Manning. He's

594
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: always played him well in San Diego. I thought, you know,

595
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: outside of one or two affairs, they found a way

596
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: to get under Denver skin. I think when you have

597
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning as your quarterback, you you go run heavy

598
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: out of necessity. It's not because you want to. You

599
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: put the game in Peyton Manning's hands. One reason I

600
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: like the charges a little bit in this game is

601
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: they are a different defense with Melvin Ingram there, and

602
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: they are different offense with Ryan Matthews there and helped

603
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: that Manteo is back. I do think their defense especially

604
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: is different than they were five or six weeks ago

605
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: when they were in that lull. All right, this is

606
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: a free Pepsi cola product from the break room. To

607
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: anyone that could get closest to John Fox's age without

608
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: going over, We'll start with the Sessler. Uh sixties seven.

609
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't tell anyone's age above my own.

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Speaker 1: That's that's old. It's not I got right. Yeah, that

611
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: was right around where I was going. I'm gonna go

612
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: fifty five. Then Chris Westling, he is fifty nine years old.

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Speaker 1: West you have a diet Pepsi coming your way. I

614
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Speaker 1: don't drink diet. You have a mountain dew coming your way.

615
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Speaker 1: And even one of our sponsors, we're just great product.

616
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Speaker 1: Is that their catch? Right? I'm not sure that we

617
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: don't know alright. Moving on to Cleveland where the Cincinnati

618
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: Bengals will play the Browns and Bengals, of course, coming

619
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: off that tough loss, I really took it on the

620
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: chin against the Steelers. Tighten up that division. They're up

621
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: a half game on the Steelers and Ravens. The Browns

622
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: at seven and six is must win territory for this team,

623
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: and of course they have Johnny Manzel at quarterback. And

624
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest surprises of the picks I thought

625
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: this week for the around the NFL group was that

626
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: we all picked the Browns to knock off the Bengals

627
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: except for one of us. And he's sitting to where right,

628
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of charm. He's Greg. That's

629
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: the first I've heard of that. Yeah, I don't know

630
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: where that came from Greg, Defend your hero. I think

631
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: the Bengals are a slightly better team. I thought, much

632
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: like Mark did in the NFC East game, that just

633
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: seems like these two teams should split their season series.

634
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: I think the Browns have something great going on that

635
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: doesn't quite add up to a very good team that

636
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: they've overachieved. A few weeks ago, I pegged them at

637
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: eight and a. This feels like a game they're gonna lose.

638
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: And I don't really have much faith in Johnny Manzel

639
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: being a difference maker. I don't see why he's going

640
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: to be better than most of the rookie quarterback performances

641
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: we've seen. It's really hard to just step right in there.

642
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: You're facing a tough, veteran defense, and I think they

643
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: lose a Taiwan. We've said this before. The Bengals offense

644
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: goes as a J. Green goes, and the best defensive

645
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: player on the Browns for the past six seven weeks,

646
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden, is playing at extremely high level. His last

647
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: three games against a J. Green fifty one yards, seven

648
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: yards and twenty three yards. You just scared Greg. I

649
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: wish I knew that before I picked the Bengals. I'm

650
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: sticking with it. Mark, you're confident when we talked about

651
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: some Wednesday you think there's gonna be a molly whopping. Well,

652
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: we are contractually obligated to make a confident call as

653
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: part of our Wednesday handiwork, and this was my confident call.

654
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Just gonna go drop a big bomb on the Bengals.

655
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Greg drinking his little twelve ounce bottles of hate or aide.

656
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Typical cel. He thinks the world's against him because one

657
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: person five picked the other team that's probably favored in

658
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: this game. May me a break. I think the Cleveland

659
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not actually thinking because of Manziel. They almost beat

660
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: the Cults last week. All had Manziel been in there

661
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: and simply turned out a couple of field goals, they

662
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: would have won. I mean it was an offense that

663
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't went in reverse and did nothing. So I like

664
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: where the defense is at. It's it's much as about

665
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: that as the offense. And they're at home. I've and

666
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: they're at home, and I I for some reason, I

667
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: continue to have this image in my head that the

668
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Browns are playing a deeply meaningful Week seventeen game with

669
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: a chance to make the playoffs, and I told you, Mark,

670
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: and it's not personal against you. I see something crushing

671
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: happening to the Browns to not win that game, or

672
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: perhaps they do win the game and then they get

673
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: killed by some team winning later in the day, something

674
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: really heartbreaking, or Billy Kundiff probably blows something like something

675
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: like that can happen, and but still it will be

676
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: a building block season for a franchise that needs one.

677
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: So I think to get to that point in the

678
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: cessler I have, they gotta win this game. Take care

679
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: of business at home. Makes sense. Bengals have a problem.

680
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: I think they gave up their most yards in a

681
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: game since two thousand and seven last week, and their

682
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: best defensive player, Vante's Perfect, is out for the season.

683
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: That's the problem. They've also had a hard time really

684
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: integrating Gianna Giovanni Bernard into the offense since he came

685
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: back from injury. Now we hear from Bernard they're gonna

686
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: start Jeremy Hill, use him more as the bell cow

687
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: guy Bernard on special places. Actually think that's a that's

688
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: a good thing. I don't think Bernard's a great runner,

689
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: He's a really good receiving back. Hill is a better runner. Hill. Also,

690
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: when the Browns went in and stomped them, you went

691
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: to the media and called him a joke basically, and

692
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: the Browns players said, we haven't. It's not all about metrics, guys.

693
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a little bit more. No, And the Browns

694
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: players basically said, we're gonna settle this score with Jeremy

695
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Hill on Sunday. And you got your coach calling the

696
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Browns quarterback a little person. Come on, this is too much.

697
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: This is too much talk from a Bengals team that

698
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: is unimpressive. They forgot that they were the Cincinnati Bengals. Right,

699
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't live in Cincinnati or now you don't even

700
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: live in Cleveland. Well, you don't live in either city.

701
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: We live in l A. Moving on, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

702
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: as we said, had that big win over the Bengals,

703
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: and now they go to Atlanta the Georgia Dome, which

704
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: is just an electric atmosphere for football. I find, get

705
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: under that roof, get on that turf, Mark, and away

706
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: we go, electric offense. I think you've said enough, all right,

707
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: um setting Mark Love's outdoor stadiums and thanks for playing

708
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: along with me there, Mark Uh. The Falcons who, by

709
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: the way, if we haven't been paying attention, things are

710
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: wide open for them to win this division. They stink

711
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: that's the problem. But you have Carolina whose quarterback just

712
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: was in a two car accident where his car flipped

713
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: fourteen times. You have the Saints, who who just absolutely

714
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: laid an egg at home against that Panthers team before

715
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: the car wreck for for Newton. So you have you know,

716
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: if all these awful, pretending teams that aren't playing well,

717
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: the Falcons, if they could just find a way to

718
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: play halfway decent football, could steal this division. Will they

719
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: win at home against the Steelers? Chris Wesley. I haven't

720
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: been able to trust the Steelers from one week to

721
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: the next all year. I feel really good about them

722
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in this game. Really. Julio Jones with a hip flexer,

723
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: and he has been their entire offense the last two weeks.

724
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: If you can't play your right, if Julio Jones can't play,

725
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: the Falcons don't move. He's been the leby on Bell

726
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: of wide receivers the last couple of weeks. Just absolutely

727
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: one man wrecking crew. But this offense is better than

728
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: it was early in the year. We I thought that

729
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: was one of the Falcons only because Julio Jones was

730
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: playing out of his mind. Look at what happened Monday night.

731
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: No one else did anything we were trying to give them.

732
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, the Browns defense played well lately. They moved

733
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: the ball against the Browns, but then they had five

734
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: hundred yards against Arizona. They had a big time performance

735
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: in green Bait. The offensive line, which has been such

736
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: a disaster all year, has at least been stable to

737
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: the point where Matt Ryan kind of looks like Matt

738
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Ryan is playing pretty well. Their offense is probably the

739
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: best thing going in the NFC South right now if

740
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Julio Jones is the Steelers, so, I agree, But it

741
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: also wouldn't surprise me if they put up forty points

742
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: on this seeing. I agree. I'm shocked only because it's

743
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, a game. I think this Steelers are a

744
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: much better team than the Falcons. Look two fluke losses

745
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: from the Jets and Bucks away from having the same

746
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: record as the Page but a flint. Let me ask

747
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: you this, Chris, when you're Pittsburgh and you have all

748
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: week to prepare for the Bucks, in all week to

749
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: prepare for the Jets, and you blow both of those games,

750
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: that tells you something. Those aren't flukes. That's something about

751
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: your team. You're not gonna show up in a big moment, right.

752
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: They also had a very close win against Tennessee and

753
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: ugly win against Jacksonville. So at a certain point, it's

754
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: not flukes, that's just kind of who they are. If

755
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: they yeah, I mean, if they could lose to those teams,

756
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: the Falcons can beat them. But I think there's a

757
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: reason we all picked the Stealers because that potential is

758
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: so great with this team and they're playing well. So yes,

759
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: I think West you'll admitted too. We've all kind of

760
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: got sucked back in by the Steelers because it's so

761
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: easy to get sucked in by this team. Let's see

762
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: if they burn us again. Moving on, the Green Bay Packers,

763
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: who are playing like no one else in football right now,

764
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: head to Buffalo to face the Bills. You know, the

765
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: Bills are one of the damned We uh forked them

766
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. Uh So that tells you where

767
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: we stand on this game as a group. But you know, still,

768
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: this is a team that's played well at home this year.

769
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: They've showed they have a great you know, defensive front,

770
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy is dealing with a little bit of an

771
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: issue with his hip, I believe, which is something you

772
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: gotta keep it keep an eye on. But still, Aaron

773
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers is on one team and Kyle Orton is on

774
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: the other, so I would assume that will settle this

775
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: is term in terms of a competition. I actually thought

776
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: about picking the Bills in this game because of their

777
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: the way their defense plays at home, they just fly

778
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: to the ball, And then I thought of what you said,

779
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: that's Aaron Rodgers against Kyle Ward, and I couldn't bring

780
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: myself to do it. It's almost like, I I agree,

781
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the Bills at home are tantalizing, but it's in enough

782
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: to keep this competitive for a certain amount of time.

783
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: But what we've seen from Green Bay on offensive late,

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: it's just an outpouring of points and yardage. They look

785
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: completely unstoppable. They're at the point where the when the

786
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Broncos were hitting their peak, where unlike some we want

787
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: to watch a fifty two seven game, and I get

788
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: that that's cool, Like I want to see close games,

789
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: and the Packers are sometimes off my radar as an

790
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: exciting watch because they're that dominant. This is the one

791
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: chance to play a defense that might maybe keep it

792
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: close for a help of quarters. It's a really good

793
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: matchup with the Packers offense versus the Bills defense, and

794
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: especially the Packers offensive line, which has gotten a lot

795
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: of love like as this reform great unit. Like we'll

796
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: see how good they are this week. Because the way

797
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: to beat the Bills is not really to drop back

798
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: and pass forty times, and that might be what they

799
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: have to do if Eddie Lacy is not healthy. I mean,

800
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos had the right idea to just just run

801
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: at them, because you don't want to get your QB hurt.

802
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: I think Marcel Darius coming after you. Well, after watching

803
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: what Julio Jones did to the Packers secondary, the Bills

804
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: have to feel good about the way Sammy Watkins played

805
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: last week. He was making big catches all over the field,

806
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: and I feel like he's gotten a little left behind

807
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: like Mike Evans and O'Dell Beckham. Sammy Watkins is going

808
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: to be an absolute star in the NFL. But this

809
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: their offense is so hard to watch. They were reminding

810
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: me of Jason Campbell with the Bengals last week at

811
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: the end of the game, just thinking dunk. Every play.

812
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: Everything they do is about deception or trying to trick

813
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 1: the offense with like five different fake screens and Morton

814
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: throws at five year It's like after a while, it's

815
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: not an NFL off in real quick because of the quarterback.

816
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Watkins didn't cross thirty eight yards in a

817
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: game for the four weeks previous. It's like they're because

818
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: of that. I think it's also because he's been playing

819
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: through injuries all year. He looked great this past week.

820
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: He looked like back to the guy who was dominating

821
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. I know we want to move on,

822
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: but quickly. I do want to give some love to

823
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, the oldest back in the league. Maybe his

824
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: last few games here, he's still getting nick done. It's

825
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: been kind of fun, which Brown. He's fun to watch us.

826
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: There were some whispers that Fred Jackson could replace Frank

827
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: Gore in your stable of boys. Oh they've both been

828
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: there for a decade. There two of the longest term tenants.

829
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't have as much turnover as West. I'm not fickle.

830
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I just those guys a little bit in the stable

831
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: for like fourteen years. All right, he's in the Mountary

832
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: Lodge Pocono. Jlio Jones has been career Steve Smith, he's

833
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: in one of those Champagne glasses. That's also the hot top.

834
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: Brooks is in there too. That shot was unwarranted, but

835
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: I was just saying, you you admit Fred Jackson he's

836
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: been making Yeah, that was It's been a long week

837
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: and you know this is what Dan and I deal

838
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: with every day downstad. Alright, moving on, So, while we

839
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: were talking about some of these af C North teams

840
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to slug it out this week

841
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: to eat their place in the standings and hopefully move up,

842
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: one team gets to buy there. The Baltimore Ravens. They're

843
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: playing the Jacksonville Jaguars at home. Uh, everything is pointing

844
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens playing you know very well of late, everything's

845
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: pointing to the Jags, essentially giving the Ravens little trouble,

846
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: a thirty three to ten type game. That's just what

847
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling. Do you guys disagree or is this game

848
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: just gonna be a blow up third too even unevenly

849
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: matched teams. The Ravens are a really good team. Did

850
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: you know that the Packers are the only team with

851
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: few or three announcing the Ravens this year. There are

852
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: there a borderline great offense. It is so strange to

853
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: watch a Joe Flacco offense be at top six or

854
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: seven offense. And I think he is playing as well

855
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: as he as he's played. He looks more athletic like

856
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: he's His pocket movement has been great. The only way

857
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: you beat the Ravens is by throwing a lot on them,

858
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: and Jaguars can't do that. And they've in Baltimore with

859
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: this quarterback, this coach. They've been here year after year.

860
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: This is not an unknown place. And of the whole

861
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: that whole division is so shaky with this deal. Or

862
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: is the Browns the Bengals don't know what's going to happen.

863
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: The Ravens of the one team that, Yeah, I'm confident

864
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: to go in and take care of business. Spie about

865
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: the score, Dan mentioned, Sure sounds fine. There's one bright

866
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: side for you, Mark because of Shoelace's injury, Dinard Robinson,

867
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of Toby Gerhardt. That isn't the side I'm

868
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: not going to get into. Its lead the n f

869
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: A f C and touches right Mark was remarkably and

870
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: we all make mistakes, but Mark was remarkably behind the

871
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Jaguars as a franchise thought general manager running back you

872
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: literally picked their GM to make the leap. I did.

873
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: It's great, you know, you know what I'm willing to

874
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: say that I was about a thousand miles off, not

875
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: on him specifically, but the whole team scoring. Right now,

876
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: you hate the Jags. Be exciting, alright, Move on, as

877
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: we move on to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who will

878
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: travel to Charlotte to face the Panthers and not see

879
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, who, of course, after that car accident, will

880
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: miss this game. Derek Anderson will get his second start

881
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: of the season. His first start was in Week one,

882
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: also against the Bucks. He played pretty well there. And

883
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: the Bucks are in you know, suck for Duck Range.

884
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: Right now, there's two and eleven at the bottom of

885
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: the NFL standing, So you know, don't be surprised if

886
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: they if they stall and finished the two or three wins.

887
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't imagine they'll be at the Pathers, but the

888
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Pathers kind of stink too. It could be a game. Yeah,

889
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a four win team. Right,

890
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: that hadn't won a game in more than two months.

891
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: We all picked the Panthers, and I feel good about

892
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: that because they just don't want to take the Bucks

893
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: on the road at all. But this is a team

894
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: that won one game out of nine and they have

895
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson starting, so who knows. I think we pointed

896
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: to their two biggest weaknesses being an offensive line in

897
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: secondary for the Panthers, and both played much better last week.

898
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just because the Saints didn't show up,

899
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: but their offensive line looks pretty good. And on the

900
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, the Buccaneers real quick. They

901
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: do have two keepers that they did that they got

902
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire or were they off the trash

903
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: heap in the off season. Linebacker Danny Lonsana has had

904
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: a great year and this guy, jac Quis Smith pass rusher,

905
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: defensive end could be a starter next year. Looks really good.

906
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: One thing about the Bucks seven games eight points are

907
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: less decide that it's been in a lot of close games.

908
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: That's the most in the league with the Jets, I mean,

909
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: and they're losing them, so they're not a good team,

910
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: but they're not getting blown out week after week. The

911
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Meanwhile, they are looking to hold on to

912
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: their place in the a f C playoff race, the

913
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: fringe of the a f C playoff race, and they

914
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: have to travel to indian Now to face the Colts. Uh.

915
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: The Colts led by Andrew Luck, of course, so uh

916
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: this this promises to be a tough game. But we

917
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: will say this about the Colts. They did not look

918
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: very good for fifty eight minutes against the Browns last week.

919
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: They kind of got let off the hook by some

920
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: bad Brian Hoyer play. So is it possible that the

921
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Texans hang around to this game and maybe I have

922
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: a chance to steal it. We'll start with Greg. I

923
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: don't think so. They've never won in Indianapolis, which I

924
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: don't put too much stock in, but I do put

925
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: stock into the fact that the Colts are a different

926
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: team at home, especially that defense, than they are on

927
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: the road. They they are a problem though they are

928
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: due to be picked off by some inferior team because

929
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: they're not really a good team at all. The offensive

930
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: line is not very good anymore. The defense had started

931
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: out well, and that's not very good. They're just kind

932
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck and t Y Hilton. That's your team.

933
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: I think their offense, though, is the chance to be

934
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: when it wants to be special. I mean they what

935
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: they did last week was no small thing. They completely

936
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: had the men the mental strength to wipe out in

937
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: their minds three quarters a terrible play, and they know

938
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: that with Luck and Hilton, where else can come flying back?

939
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it reminds me of last week's

940
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: game a little bit. They need to run Fleaner and

941
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen in two tight insets and put Reggie Wayne

942
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: on the bench up. Sorry, but I came in Monday

943
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: morning and the first thing I said to you guys

944
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: was Reggie Wayne's done. He's playing. I didn't know he

945
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: was playing through a torn triceps. But his game next week,

946
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: it's the Browns, was the worst game I've ever seen

947
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: by it was. It was the worst game I've ever

948
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: seen by a wide receiver. Wait, what about your Kenny

949
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: Britt games last year? It was in that territory comeback.

950
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne dropped three passes and they were all right

951
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: in his hands and he couldn't do anything. No separation.

952
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: You gotta get Moncrief in their herons all I mean,

953
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: it's a good offense. If the Texans somehow won this game,

954
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: by the way we we forked them weeks and weeks ago,

955
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: they got a chance to win the a f C South.

956
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Now I don't I don't think they're gonna win this game,

957
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: but we are in week fifteen, and if they just

958
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: won this one game, there one back with two to

959
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: play and they you know, they gotta shot. Here are

960
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: are fork danger teams because as as when we forked

961
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: team they that means they have no chance in our

962
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: minds of making the playoffs. And if we get one wrong,

963
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: Greg donates to a charity, which he'll be the first

964
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: one to let you know about it. Uh So, yeah,

965
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: the Texans are one of those teams that we forked.

966
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: The Panthers we forked. Feeling okay about that, uh and

967
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: also the Falcons, so you know everyone else I'm feeling

968
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: pretty good about. It's only because a division this year

969
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: is historically gone awful that we're even dealing with two

970
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: of those. And we talked about fork in the Saints too,

971
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: just fork in the whole NFC South out of total

972
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: disrespect for the entity. I like that they deserve it.

973
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Moving on, the Oakland Raiders buried more balls and head

974
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: to Kansas City to face the Chiefs. Speaking of a

975
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: team that's on the fringe and and on the chopping block,

976
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: and they could have a fork sticking out of their

977
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: back by next week. Uh. They are in the three

978
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: game losing streak now seven and six, so they desperately

979
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: need this win. They will be at home against the Raiders.

980
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: Everything seems to be an order for the Chiefs, get

981
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: healthy game for Kansas City, you know should be. But

982
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders have a chance to have one in the

983
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: all time runs of spoiling team season. I mean they

984
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: can spoil hard BA and that era, take out and

985
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: sweep the Chiefs and basically and that rival season. It'd

986
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: be fun. If you're a raiderstand you got nothing else

987
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: to play for. Chiefs run defense stans. In the last

988
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: four weeks, Marshawn Lynch, Latavius Murray, C. J. Anderson, and

989
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: Kerwin Freaking Williams put in four of the best running

990
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: back games you'll ever see. I have a sessler that

991
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: Lottavius Murray is gonna drop a buck fifty on the

992
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 1: Chiefs would not surprise you. To make this a game

993
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: you should switch over and take the Raiders. I said,

994
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: make it a game when I wasn't that impressed with

995
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Murray against the forty niners. It's a different defense last week.

996
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: But he ran for like one point nine yards per carry.

997
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: He is he is by far the best weapon they

998
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield. Weapon not maybe being the

999
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: right word, but at least they've moved on from there

1000
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to five year old running back m j D. Didn't

1001
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: even get a touch last week. I mean not totally.

1002
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I think we all do. We all knew even before

1003
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: the season started that that might not work out. But

1004
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: to see he was he won the rushing title three

1005
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: years ago and now he was gonna be out a league.

1006
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Probably have they started measuring his yards percarrying feet? This

1007
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: is this is an insane stat. So the Football Outsiders

1008
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: has the worst run offenses, you know, measured by their

1009
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: advanced stats. Since the Raiders have the sixth worst running

1010
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: attack since nine, m j D involved the fifth worst

1011
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: of all time last year's Jaguars m j D leading

1012
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: the show. So basically he has he has led to

1013
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: of the worst running offenses in NFL. H did you

1014
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: get that from the week fifteen research notes which I

1015
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: hold in my left hand right now, I did not.

1016
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this is now. They don't go to football outsiders.

1017
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: This is their own little propriety. Thank you, Dan Is

1018
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: holding it above his arm, poisting it above the world.

1019
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah no, it's it's good stat though, thanks Betty. Uh No.

1020
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs, though, I mean we West and I

1021
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: last week picked them as maybe sneaking in the back

1022
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: door for a playoff spot. I'm already regretted. Yeah, I

1023
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: don't feel too good about that either. I think we

1024
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: might be forking them this time next week. Well, you

1025
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: know how quickly they fall, You know, these things happen.

1026
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Moving on to the Miami Dolphins. You know, Greg's gonna

1027
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: put this as like one of the games of the

1028
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: century because he's been talking about this Dolphins Patriots showdown

1029
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks. So now they get a chance.

1030
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: The Dolphins head to New England to face the Patriots.

1031
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: And you know, earlier in the show, let's be honest,

1032
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: we forked the Dolphins. So you know where we stand

1033
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: on as a group of this with this game. But

1034
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: are the Dolphins gonna show some life the porpoises? I

1035
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: should say they won this game last year and in

1036
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: week fifteen against the I'm just telling you, I'm just

1037
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: telling you what happened. You're not gonna hear the word

1038
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: revenge out in New England this week, But that's exactly

1039
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. They're not gonna get swept by the Dolphins.

1040
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: That's the difference this time around. And I just don't

1041
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: understand how this defense in Miami has collaps And I

1042
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: think that, more than anything, is why this whole team

1043
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: might get taken apart in the office. Yeah, it's a

1044
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: total weakness right now that they can't Miami's defense was

1045
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: the reason in Week one they went in there and

1046
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: did a nice job against New England. It's mystifying to me,

1047
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: but they completely crumbled on that front. New England is

1048
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: running the ball. Well, they're gonna put four running backs

1049
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: in there that we've never even heard of, signed off

1050
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: some sort of street committee tomorrow and run for fifty yards.

1051
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: You make a good point, by the way. I think

1052
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: we talked abou us a little bit over the weekend.

1053
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: All right, Bill, we get it. You're you're a master

1054
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: of the world, and you're smarter than all of us.

1055
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: Can you put Jonas Gray in the game, put him

1056
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: in the game he read for two yards and seven

1057
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns on Sunday Night Football. He oversleeps once and we

1058
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: never see him again. That you can spend six weeks

1059
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: telling Mike Tomlin I know how to outcoach you players.

1060
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: I usually defend Belichick for just about anything. For get

1061
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: the boy in because his name is Jonas. I mean,

1062
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: he's great that one game. Just give him another chance,

1063
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: give him, give him ten touches. He'll just put up

1064
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: hill n leash him in the Divisional round for hundred

1065
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: ninety seven yards in three touches. It wasn't the going

1066
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: out that got Belichick. It was the Sports Illustrated cover.

1067
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: He was just like that ain't happening again. Jonas too

1068
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: much attention. He does not have editorial control, Grego apparently.

1069
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, any so, anything else to say about this game?

1070
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: It feels like the Patriots are just typical late December

1071
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: regular season destruction fest. Right forty to be shocked. They

1072
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: don't take care of business? Yeah right, Moving on, this

1073
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: is a game that has everybody excited. East to west,

1074
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins head to the meadow Lands to face

1075
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Will probably see Colton McCoy in

1076
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: this game. Jake Ruden came out and his Thursday press

1077
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: conference and stated that barring a setback with a Friday

1078
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: precautionary precautionary test with some doctors, McCoy will play with

1079
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: that neck issue he's had. Uh, so we'll get another

1080
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: look at McCoy. I guess at this point, the Red West,

1081
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: you're shaking your head. Nothing has tickled men as much

1082
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: this week as Jake Ruden holding off on his quarterback

1083
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: decision to see if quote McCoy is healthy. Give me

1084
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: a break. Kirk Cousins is better than Coulte McCoy play him.

1085
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious that they're waiting on quote McCoy's

1086
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: health to make a decision last week. I know it's hilarious.

1087
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: It couldn't have gone worse for Gruden because if he

1088
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: has another game where McCoy doesn't score point or has

1089
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: a terrible I mean, he's kind of Gruden's digging his

1090
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: own grave by just sticking with the call. It's the

1091
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: sign of a person who's not thinking clearly, well, what

1092
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: is he gonna do? What you're so excited about Kirk Cousin.

1093
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's any better. They've averaged four

1094
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense and kirk Cousins starts r G

1095
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: three's and about three thirty In quote McCoy's, kirk Cousins

1096
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: is better. He said, um, what was that? Look? I

1097
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I I don't see a whole

1098
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: at this point. If you're if you're Gruden, maybe a

1099
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: little bit of consider to see from week to week

1100
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: in practice with the same quarterback. This ship is sinking.

1101
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure going to kirk Cousins, I

1102
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: see saying why would you not play a healthy Kirk

1103
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: Cousins over an injured Culte McCoy. I don't understand that.

1104
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: How many interceptions did he throw? He moves them? Your

1105
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: name the first Culte McCoy back on the field. I

1106
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: was fine to be a third stringer. This is Smart's son.

1107
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about. Oh no, that's called now. I like

1108
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: cult McCoy is an average, but we're talking. We're not

1109
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: arguing between cult McCoy and this outrageously higher supreme being.

1110
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: We're talking about another very average quarterback. We have to

1111
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: wait for our injured quarterback who couldn't move the ball

1112
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: past the fifty yard line last week, and it was

1113
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: signed as a third stringer. That's who we're waiting on.

1114
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: They all stink, I mean, come on, And maybe it's

1115
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: the offense too. And the reason why Mark is so

1116
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: salty though, is by tradition he always has the last

1117
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: Cult McCoy game that he played on a loop in

1118
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: coult sess. There is room playing at all times, just

1119
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: all day, every day. And so right now they've got

1120
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: that Rams shutout stinker. Everyone's in a bad mood because

1121
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: I have a two year old. That would drive my

1122
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: two year old insane. I don't want to deal with them,

1123
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: by the way it's telling. I don't know if you

1124
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: guys saw Jake Ruden admitted earlier this week too that

1125
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: the job has been harder than he expected. I don't

1126
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: think he he that it was going to be a

1127
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: circus in Washington, but because every year it's something new.

1128
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: This year, of course, it's that r G three fell

1129
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: off the earth. Last year it was all the Shanahan stuff.

1130
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know, this is starting to feel a

1131
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: little one and Dunney doesn't it with ye? Jim Zorn,

1132
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: how is fantastic? How is Bruce Allen going to keep

1133
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 1: his job. Two different head coaches that he has hand

1134
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: picked have benched the quarterback who he went out and

1135
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: sold his soul for. Here's the thing that I don't

1136
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: think Bruce Allen is hand picking anyone. I don't think

1137
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: he's hand picking players. I don't think he's handpicking coaches.

1138
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: I think the owners picking the coaches, and those two

1139
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: are buddies from way back. By the way O'Dell Beckham

1140
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: walked across the Hudson River this morning, it wouldn't surprise me.

1141
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Moving on, the New York Jets are heading to Nashville

1142
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: to face the Titans in a game. Really, it's really

1143
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: about the draft more than anything else. Who will move

1144
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: up and closer that number one pick and who will

1145
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: bury themselves. So again, as a Jets fan, it's a

1146
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: tough spot, but I will be kind of rooting for

1147
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: the Titoons kind of rooting. That's just wrong, ton HUSI.

1148
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: Where are we? Well, I don't even know what's happening,

1149
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: but Zach Mettenberger is not playing in this game. So West,

1150
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: you're excited because you get sing little Gino Smith Jake

1151
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: Locker action. Here's what I like. Are that up on

1152
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: game rewind, big boy. Here's what I like about this game.

1153
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: You know how the Bengals Saturday playoff loss has become

1154
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: my favorite holiday. Yes, one of my favorite holidays is

1155
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: also when the patrons patron saying of bad teams. Chris

1156
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Durham joins the team during the last season, and you

1157
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: just look up one day Chris during plays for the Titans. Now,

1158
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: Larry is it's a weird gig, but it's pays well.

1159
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm amazed. Actually, I'm not amazed at all. This should

1160
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: be a split performance. Mark and Dan took the Titans here,

1161
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: so I'm going to be rooting on the old Jets

1162
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: to try to pick up, which always means whenever you

1163
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: have to root for the Jets. And I'm just rooting

1164
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: for Dan to get that number one pick, and I

1165
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: hope you guys can take it from there without a little.

1166
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: I was all excited about Marcus Mariota and then Bucky

1167
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: rolls in here and tells us that bagging groceries in

1168
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: three years again. The Titans, by the way, are the

1169
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL. That's why I didn't take them.

1170
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: I think they are the very worst team in the NFL.

1171
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: If I had to choose one one Tennessee. Here's my

1172
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: another great stat from one of your former stable members,

1173
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Bishop Sanky. Trent Richardson has more runs. Trent Richardson has

1174
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: more runs over fifteen yards this year than Bishop Sanky.

1175
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: That is disgusting. Speaking of discussing the more distressing, the

1176
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: Jets announced that, or the Daily News reported, I guess

1177
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: that Jets probably announced it that Jesse Jane Decker, Eric

1178
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Decker's wife will be singing the national anthem or excuse me,

1179
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: performing at halftime at Meadowlands Stadium when they play against

1180
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't need you don't need to be

1181
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: an expert in anything to know that's a bad idea

1182
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: and she's gonna get booed, and it's gonna be a

1183
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: plot line that the tabloids will be right. That would

1184
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: have been nice in around sim like September eighteen, after

1185
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: she says that the Jets fans are mean and she

1186
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: got into that, you know, and then marcher out to

1187
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: midfield for a halftime show. Am I the only one

1188
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: that's using my brain now? And it's a poor idea

1189
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: And they probably did this to get back in his

1190
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: favor after all of this, after Smith, no one thinks clearly.

1191
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: Moving on, we had to Ford Field, where the Minnesota

1192
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Vikings will face the Lions. The Lions are nine and four,

1193
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: and you know they took care of business at against

1194
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: the Bucks last week, so that that's not the nine

1195
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: game losing streak in December. If they can win this game,

1196
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: and let's face is a very winnable game against the

1197
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: middle league Vikings team, they would be in very good

1198
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: position to grab a playoff spot at ten and four.

1199
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: So the only thing that could really hurt them is

1200
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: if they pull a Lions, if they get lionz and

1201
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: blow this game. And frankly, I would not be surprised

1202
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: if it happened. I didn't pick, I didn't have the

1203
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: guts to pick the Vikings, but I could see that happening.

1204
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the Vikings are particularly good team week

1205
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: to week. I think that they are misleading six and seven.

1206
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: I think Teddy Bridgewater is kind of maxed out what

1207
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: he does, and the defensive line is pretty good, but

1208
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: it's not as healthy anymore. I mean the Lion the

1209
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Lions should take care of business. I think they will.

1210
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they finally have their Calvin Johnson and Golden

1211
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: Tate combination healthy and together, and I this is one

1212
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: that if they are a playoff team on any level,

1213
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: you gotta go in and take care of business with authority.

1214
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: King is a little strange though it's not a neat

1215
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: complete cinch of a matchup. No, they beat him seventeen

1216
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: three in Minnesota. Their next two games aren't tough, but

1217
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: you could see them losing one of them this game

1218
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: against Minnesota and then they go to Chicago next week.

1219
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: The last two weeks in my game rewe notes of

1220
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: the same sentence written, this team is better than people

1221
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: think about. The Lions Stafford has a passer rating in

1222
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Eric Ebrons finally getting involved. Golden

1223
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: Tate is Hindes Ward, DeAndre Levies and all pro. This

1224
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: defense is for real? Do you trust the offense is

1225
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: getting better? Do you trust them? Right? So, obviously you're

1226
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: you have them taken care of business against the Vikings,

1227
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, if they're better than people think they're,

1228
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, in ten win team, are they much better

1229
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: than that? I think they're the third best team in

1230
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 1: the NFC. Wow, quite a drop off two to three. Yes,

1231
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: But you say you think they're better than the Eagles.

1232
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: I guess it's not that crazy. Bo and Dominican Sue

1233
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: set told reporters yesterday that his agent will decide where

1234
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: he plays next most likely. Thank you, and uh, what's it?

1235
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: I like that? Yeah, you like it's candid. That's good.

1236
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: But my favorite part was a report just trying to

1237
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: draw something out of this stone as Sue, what memories

1238
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: are your favorite takeaways from your time Ford Field? His

1239
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: quote wins Thanksgiving. Other than that, I don't know, feeling

1240
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: good about the Motor City. Hunh, there hasn't been a

1241
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: whole lot. I'm gonna answer is that he's not a

1242
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: dumb guy either. And Thanksgiving or two of the low

1243
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: lights of his career happening back to back Peace Givings.

1244
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: I thought he loves playing the villain. Get excited for

1245
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: your playoff run Detroit exactly. Finally, Uh, Monday Night Football,

1246
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: the novel in Saints head to Soldier Field to face

1247
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears got beat up against the Cowboys

1248
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: in their last meeting on Thursday Night Football, so we

1249
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: get gifted with another Bears primetime game, this one without

1250
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, who got all types of messed up when

1251
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: he took that shot to his back on Thursday. So

1252
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: he's out and the Saints now in, you know, which

1253
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: will be really telling game for them, a winnable game,

1254
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: but also a team that's in a little bit of

1255
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: turmoil as we see the um Sean Payton benching prominent

1256
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: players and you know, they cut somebody and so now

1257
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: they have a big game here. They have to re

1258
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: establish themselves and they're not a great road team. What happens.

1259
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: This is a tough game to pick. Well, we all

1260
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: picked the Saints, which I which I think is just well,

1261
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: it was just last week that we were saying, all right,

1262
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, we finally figured it out, we're not going

1263
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: to keep falling for this inconsistent, disastrous New Orleans team.

1264
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: So let's put him on the road for the inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who New Orleans has played, they've been

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Speaker 1: a nightmare. I mean, they're going to go on the

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Speaker 1: road in a frigid environment. I guess the saving grace

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Speaker 1: is that the Bears they're allowing scores on like of

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Speaker 1: the drive. It's like it's like the highest of any

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Speaker 1: team in like twenty something years. So maybe New Orleans

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Speaker 1: can get it going the Bears that have reached that

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Speaker 1: rare place for me a couple of weeks ago that

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Speaker 1: I thought, I'm not going to pick him to win

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Speaker 1: a game the rest of the year, Like I can't imagine,

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Speaker 1: Like if they were hosting the Jaguars, I would take

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I can't kill you on that. Uh. Jake

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Speaker 1: Cutler was symbolized for me in one play last week

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't involved in. It was Andrew up throws

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Speaker 1: an interception and I think it might have been Joe

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Speaker 1: Hayd and he goes and he's so eager to make

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Speaker 1: the tackle he actually flies through another player to make

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Speaker 1: the tack. When I'm just thinking, keep picture Jake Cutler

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Speaker 1: doing that. No way, you have to care enough, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's it. That is the previews for all our

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Speaker 1: games that we'll see coming up or looking forward to

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Speaker 1: another week because we get closer to the playoffs. This

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Speaker 1: is UH. We'll be back on Sunday and we'll recap

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Speaker 1: all this goodness. Thank you as always for listening. We

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Speaker 1: meant to get to some of those itune comments. We

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Speaker 1: didn't do it this week. We'll get to it next

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Speaker 1: week though, But Thank you to everyone that's been leaving

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Speaker 1: comments and doing all that great stuff to support the show. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hans signing off for the Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, The Boss, and t D behind the Glass

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Speaker 1: until Sunday,