1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium and gets you ready for the NFL Draft, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: which is happening next week, among other things that we 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: do here. It's the off season, but as the man 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: said in the intro, there is no offseason. It's Texans Radio. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermy or John Harris with you tonight. DP students 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: going to join us in the next segment to give 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: you information that you might not have known about some 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: of the new Texans and you're definitely gonna want to 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: hear this information. So we're looking forward to that. Johnny 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: good evening, My friend. Hey, we only have a few 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: days left, that's really it. A few days left before 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: the draft, a week from thursday. Let's rock. Thank god. 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how I mean. It's to a 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: point where last probably week and a half, been working 16 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: on twenty twenty two already. You know that I always 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: work a year ahead. I always have my document ready 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: to go, that I've got everything in Harris one hundred, 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: which turned into Harris to fifty, and then I've got 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: a document where I'm starting to look ahead. Okay, what 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: players doing it to be looking for in this summer, 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: and then I've got my trustee surface that's all kinds 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: of games loaded up in. I mean, then I'm kind 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: of doting eyes and crossing teas on some guys that 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of popped up late maybe or that I've kind 26 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: of set aside that I want to just okay, I 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: need a day to look at this guy um, and 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: that actually worked for a guy to get into the 29 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred got by them. If yah to melfon Wu, 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait until you have to say that strafed. 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I hope he's drafted here. It's actually easier to pronounce 32 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: um than it than it sounded, or maybe than I 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: sound made it sound. But boy, if he gets here, 34 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: he would be a big, long, fast corner who I 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: think can really play. And I studied him really hard 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: about him about a week week and a half ago, 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: probably the last day before I sent in the second version, 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, yeah, this guy could play, 39 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: and I was I was convinced. When I saw the 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl confirmed rout film, I felt good. So yeah, 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: there's just those kind of last eyes, dotted teas, cross 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: sort of thing that we're ready to go. Okay, well 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: we have a number of things to get to in 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: the early going. First of all, and we'll get to 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: this maybe a little bit later on in the show, 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: but report got out that forty players worked out for 47 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the Texans yesterday, first day of conditioning, and I thought 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: that was a really good sign. John, I mean, you 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: look at a lot of teams around the league. Hey, 50 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: we're not gonna work out. Teams put out statements or 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: players put out statements rather, and then all of a sudden, 52 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: will wait a minute. You know, you've got forty players 53 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: coming into the building to work out strong showing to 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: start the week, to start the offseason conditioning program. I 55 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna go every single day, but 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: I do like that you have a lot of guys 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: on this squad who are hungry, and I think a 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: lot of guys know that, you know what, I kind 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: of gotta work out because I don't know. Serious said 60 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: last week, I might not be here, you know specifically, well, 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: nobody really specifically, but he was referring to the mass, 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the mass of players that they have signed here. There's 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: no way they can possibly accommodate everybody come September. So 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna try to do their best to make the squad. 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: It's interesting you say at about forty people. I'm not surprised. 66 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: I think you hit right on it, you know, hearing 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario say, there's competition and some guys waters get 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: in the building, get a lay of the land. Where 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: is everything? Where's the cafeteria, where's the locker room? Where 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: do I address every day? Where's this? Where's that? Where's 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: the practice field, where's that? All those kind of things 72 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: you kind of do on your own pace when you're 73 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: going through the off season. And look, forty players. Not 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: to say that every single one of them is new, 75 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: but I mean that's about the number of new players 76 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: that you have. So again, you've said this a million times. 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: We've heard everybody come through this building say the same 78 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: thing about this particular aspect. Yes, there are some players 79 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: and there are bits of teams that put out statements 80 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: about boycotts and all that kind of stuff. With the 81 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: off season program. This is all voluntary until the involuntary 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: mini camp at the very very end. It's always been 83 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: that way eight always it is voluntary. So for forty 84 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: players to be up there I think is really cool. 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: I actually saw a video of the Panthers working out 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: look like they work out in some sort of bubble, 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: which I don't they I think that is almost brand new. 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: They know they've been working on it. They got a 89 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: new facility. It's actually going in South Carolina. So I 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: wondered at that point, when I still have video, h 91 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I wonder how many guys we have so good to 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: know that we've got guys that are doing that and 93 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: getting ready for the season. And look, it's not that 94 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: the other thirty eight. I think there's seventy guys in 95 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: the roster right now. I think that's the number somewhere 96 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: in there. They're thirty eight, aren't you know. They're not 97 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: just goofing off. You know, they're getting ready for the season. 98 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: There's doing it their own way. And I've got I've 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: got no problem with that, And I remember build Brandon 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: have any problem with it. I guarantee the staff doesn't 101 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: really have a problem with it. Get yourself ready. When 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: there's a mandatory situation like mini camp, be here, be 103 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: here for that aspect. Look, it would be nice if 104 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody got here, But that's just pine the sky type 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: of thinking that you know, can't come to, especially with 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: COVID situation all that. I don't know if we'll go 107 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: back to what it used to be, but that was 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: really nice, Mark to see that there were a certain 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: number of guys and you know, a few dozen that 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: were three dozen plus were there in the building getting 111 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: some work done. Very cool. All right, this is an anniversary, Johnny, 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: the anniversary of when David Carr was drafted number one 113 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: overall by the Houston Texans and two thousand and two. 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: How about that. In fact, we've got a number one 115 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: overall draft pick Who's Better coming up in a few 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: minutes here. We're gonna play Who's Better in this segment, 117 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: so stick around for that. But let's get to David 118 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Carr for a moment. I have my top three favorite 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: David car plays, and I'm gonna start as you do. 120 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: Of course you do. I'm proud of you. I'm proud 121 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: of you that you remember this anniversary and to share 122 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: this with the people, this is fantastic. I'm curious too, 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: because I've told you as many times. In all honesty, 124 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: the two thousand and two to two thousand and six 125 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: period for me is just a kind of a dark pits. 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I was not I was not here, So it's always 127 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: cool to me to hear those calls in those moments, 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: especially a young Mark van Meertha Mike in those years. Well, look, 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I think we all know what number one is going 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: to be, so or we have a pretty decent idea 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: as people are listening in, And I don't have a 132 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: highlight for number three because the highlight was not in 133 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: the highlight reel and I got a dig to the 134 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: game audio to find it, and I'm not gonna do 135 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: that right now. So it occurred the first time the 136 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: Texans ever beat the Colts. We all know that was 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and six Christmas Eve, Chris Brown forty two 138 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: yard field goal for the win. I'm not going to 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: play that highlight, but we've played it many times. We've 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: revisited that moment. But Johnny right before and that was 141 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: a big day for Ron Dane running the football over 142 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards. They played keep away from 143 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. That's how they beat the Colts for the 144 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: first time ever in two thousand and six. But right 145 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: before the field goal, car and this is his second 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: to last game as a Texan, had to make a 147 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: play and he made a play hitting Andre Johnson for 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: I think it was a sixteen yard game that set 149 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: up that field goal. And you could just feel it 150 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: in the building that the coaches were like, we don't 151 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: want to throw this football. This has been working so 152 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: well all afternoon, running running, running, Let's not throw it. 153 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: But they had to. They were running out of time. 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Somebody had to make a play, and Car made the 155 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: play to Andre to set up the Chris Brown game 156 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: winner to beat the coach for the first time ever. 157 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: So I got to give car some credit there, and 158 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: of course Andre for making a nice play and it 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: was just a little square in and he got the 160 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: field goal position in catch. But those are important plays, 161 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: right to hit the receiver to set up a game 162 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: winning potential field goal. Hey yeah, I mean those plays 163 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: are Those plays are massive and it comes from one 164 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: of the big wins and in Texans history. So yes, now, 165 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you won't go find and dig that 166 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: one up, Okay, all right, I don't know if I 167 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: give you a pass. I've got this next one though. 168 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: All right. This is number two on the all time 169 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: David Carr Top three Plays in Texans History list and 170 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: it occurred week four of year two. This is the 171 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Texans against the Jaguars, and there they were late in 172 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: the game Byron Leftwich, who's now the offensive coordinator for 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: the Box. He's going to be a head coach in 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: this league. We all know what's gonna happen eventually, maybe 175 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: next year, he says, he doesn't want to talk about it. 176 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I get it, but anyway, he's playing quarterback for the 177 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Jags and he turns it over and the Texans get 178 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: the ball and they get it down to the one 179 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: yard line and Dom capers riverboat. Dom decides, instead of 180 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: kicking a field goal automatic to send the game into overtime, 181 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: he is gonna send Car over the top. And here's 182 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: what happened. If they make it, they win. If they 183 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: don't make it, they canna lose. It's as simple as that. 184 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: You're down here, you might as well go do it. 185 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: Right now. Two seconds left, Car sneaks it over the top. 186 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: He's in touchdown Houston. The Texans win. The Texans Jexonsville. 187 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm a final playoff the day now, Johnny. I love 188 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: the call because it worked. If it doesn't work, if 189 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Carr gets stuffed and the ball got knocked out by 190 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the way, but after he crossed the plane. If it 191 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: doesn't work, you're dead. But you know it's year two 192 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and whatever. At the time, the Texans went to two 193 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: and two on the year because they beat the Dolphins 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: opening day, lost two in a row, and then they 195 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: beat the Jags. They were two and two year two. 196 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: I felt like, hey, that's not a bad start to 197 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: go two and two. I want to take him two 198 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: and two last year. Believe me, two and two and 199 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: year two. Anyway, that was a nice play by David 200 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: and that shows his athletic ability as well, no doubt. 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I always think that's one of the I don't want 202 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: to say the easiest, but I think it's one of 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: the most effective. If your quarterback has got some pretty 204 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: good hand eye coornation, we're a little bit of ups. 205 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is get the ball over. Now, 206 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: when you're out in the field, you can't do that 207 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: because you're not down until you're down. But one you 208 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: crossed the plane, that's it. That's all you need to do. 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: Drew Brees is a magician. That was one of the 210 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: things was all the great things Drew Brees you know, 211 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: did in his career. He was so good at the 212 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: over the top because all he had to do is 213 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: take the snap and just get it over and then 214 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: Putton's pop it over and then bring it back so 215 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: you didn't fumble it or take the risk his fumble. 216 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: He was so good at that and obviously that's what 217 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: David did on that particular play. I love that play 218 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: at that point. I don't love that play out in 219 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: the field because nine times out of ten that turns 220 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: into a fumble for the other squad. Not the goal 221 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: line just becomes a touchdown as long as you get 222 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: the ball over the plane, and Johnny I think number one. Look, 223 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to the first touchdown in the 224 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: history of the franchise. And we'll play that in just 225 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: a second here. But in the game against Dallas of 226 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Temper eight two thousand and two, David made a couple 227 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: of nice throws in that game, other throws to Corey Bradford. 228 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: One that was a pass interference ticket on the first 229 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: play of the game that got them at the scoring 230 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: Another was in the second half when he hit Bradford 231 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: on a deep throw that I think Bradford had to 232 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: hold up for a little bit. But anyway, give Corey 233 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a lot of credit he was a deep threat back then. 234 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: And it's funny because those passes you didn't get enough 235 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: of that when you had car and Andre Johnson on 236 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: the same team together. Cars all time long TD pass 237 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: to Andrey Johnson was fifty two or something like that, 238 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: and Andre never caught a touchdown pass longer than that 239 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: until Matt job got here. Very first game with Shops 240 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: seventy plus against the Chiefs bang in twenty in twenty seven, 241 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: and it was a different deal. But Carr looked kind 242 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: of loose on opening Day. And I remember when we 243 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: were rerunning that game last year, because during COVID we 244 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: had all this nostalgia stuff. You could tell that he 245 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: was loose. He kind of embraced a moment and he 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: just played foot loose and fancy freed. I think he 247 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: tightened up his time went on, and I think his 248 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: teams realized that there wasn't as much pass protection as 249 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: the Texas would have liked. They took advantage of that. Yeah, 250 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: And I think that starts to play on any young quarterback. 251 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: I think we saw it with Sam Darnold a little 252 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: bit where he wasn't quite sure what he was seeing. 253 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, feeling I mean, he said it such 254 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football when he was miked up, which 255 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I think is one of the low brow moments and 256 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Monday Football to actually play that from the miked up, like, 257 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: oh man, that's just a killer. But it just goes 258 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: to show when you don't have when you don't have 259 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: the protection that ended up coming in later years, and 260 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: you start to take a few hits and now all 261 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: of a sudden your clock is kind of twisted and 262 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: warped a little bit. Then all of a sudden, you 263 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: start to do things that you didn't do in that 264 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: game against the Cowboys, and I think you're right, you know, 265 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: going back and watching that game and you're like, man, 266 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: David Carr just looks in control, like you if you 267 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: didn't know, you wouldn't have really been able to surmise 268 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: that he was a rookie in that particular game. But 269 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: then the hit start piling up, and then you start 270 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: holding the ball bit longer you try to make something happen, 271 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: and it just becomes, you know, this this avalanche of 272 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: things you don't want your quarterback to go through, and 273 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: unfortunately David had to go through that. I you know, 274 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: it's funny you talk about pass protection. I always you know, 275 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: step back, and I talked to Chester Pits about this 276 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and he gets kind of upset about some 277 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: of it. You know, Oh, it's not only on the 278 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: offensive line, which is true. It is what ends up 279 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: happening is that your quarterback just like your offensive line. Look, 280 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: your offensive line is gonna get beat up and get 281 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: beat a little bit. You know. It's like the year 282 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: that Deshaun took you know, sixty two sacks. Those were 283 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: not all on the offensive line. You know, I went 284 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: back and great at a lot of them. There's probably 285 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: a good fourteen fifteen at least that were on DeShawn 286 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: for knocking the ball out of his hands quick enough. 287 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Now he was able to adapt and adjust because he 288 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: had some guys along with him and he made the adjustments. 289 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: David was unable to make it, and it was unfortunate. 290 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: But Night one, two thousand and two, that was pretty sweet. 291 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: And here it is the all time greatest play in 292 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: the history of David Carr's tenure as a Houston Texan. 293 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: On the anniversary of when he was drafted, here's car 294 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: colleague signals takes the snap, stands tall rows shortly by Miller. 295 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: He takes it out on the fund to the end zone. 296 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Touchdown Houston, David Carter Billy Miller, the first touchdown in 297 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Texans history, and David Carter Billy Miller will live in 298 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Texans history forever. And I've always said this about that game. 299 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: You could win ten Super Bowls, but you're still gonna 300 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: talk about that night. You'll talk about the tech super Bowls, 301 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: believe me, but you'll still talk about that night as 302 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: a great night for what it was, opening up franchise history, 303 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: beating the Dallas Cowboys. And I think you know you 304 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: brought up some of the points already, Johnny. But if 305 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Basselli was healthy, if Ryan Young was healthy, who knows 306 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: what would have happened with David Because we see this 307 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: example now with Alex Smith retiring this week. Alex Smith 308 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in two thousand and five, and 309 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: look what happened when he eventually got Jim Harbab as 310 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: his head coach and his career really turned around with 311 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: the help of Harball that eventually Andy Reid with David Carr. Look, 312 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: maybe it was never gonna happen, but maybe it would 313 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: have been different had he been able to sit for 314 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: a year, or Bisselli and Ryan Young stay healthy and 315 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: you have those book end tackles that Charlie casually. Hey see, 316 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I had this idea, you had these book end tackles 317 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: they had protect the Ricky quarterback and we're good to go. 318 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: And if that had happened, you know, maybe his career 319 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: is very different from what it became. But it is 320 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: what it is. And give him credit for building a 321 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: career on the NFL network as a commentator post playing career. 322 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I like what I see from him in that category. 323 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: And look, I like David. The cards are very likable people. 324 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: Derek's very likable, So good luck to them all. Yeah, 325 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: and David, you're right, Yes, a pretty good job in 326 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: NFL network. I get frustrated with people that will say, oh, 327 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Tony Vassili was the worst texting ever, Like, I mean, 328 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: he just he he was injured, he was not ready 329 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: to play. And I was same with Ed Reid. You know, 330 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Ed Reid came here as damaged goods, you know when 331 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: he got here, and both of them were injured, but 332 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: their Hall of Fame players. Obviously, Ed Reid's gone in. 333 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I think Basselli will go in at some point man 334 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: BESSELLI was so good in his prime, and you know, 335 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's why Texans vans are are are mad about it. 336 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, he's the worst, texting people 337 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: saying I'm like, hey, I don't know, well, it is 338 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: he the worst acquisition, perhaps considering how high profile he 339 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: was at the time, and they made him sort of 340 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the immediate phase of the franchise prior to the draft 341 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: pick of Car because he was you know, the expansion 342 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: draft really didn't have a draft order, but they announced 343 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: him first. So I mean, it really hurt though, because 344 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: we do have photos of him in a Texans uniform, 345 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: but he never played in the game. And it's really 346 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: a tease, all right, Johnny, let's transition here to who 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: who's better? But I'm gonna relay it to number one 348 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: overall pick stuff because it's the anniversary of Car getting drafted. 349 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: Alex Pip retires this week. But the Texas of two 350 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: others as far as number one overall picks besides David 351 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: Carr in their history. So I'm gonna ask you right 352 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: now who's better, Mario Williams number one overall pick in 353 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: two thousand and six or Jeddevion Clowney number one overall 354 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: pick in twenty fourteen. Who's better, Johnny? And if you 355 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: want the numbers, I'll give them to you because the 356 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: case is very compelling for the old guy. Yeah, I know, 357 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: I know it is. For Mario. Mario was much more 358 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: productive sack wise, Clowney scared teams when you talk to 359 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: people around the league, even when JJ was going just 360 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: unbelievably well. Now, obviously Clowney's, you know, two biggest years 361 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: were in sixteen seventy with JJ was heard, but in 362 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: eighteen I've gone back and watch that game against the 363 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles often, and I guarantee if Philly was scared 364 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: to death to him of Clowney. I knew Mario was good, 365 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and I felt like Mario he's number one overall pick, 366 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: But in some ways Mario was underrated, Like I don't 367 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: think people really gave Mario that his just due for 368 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: how good he actually was. But if I've got to 369 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: take one of them fully healthy, I'll take Clowney ten 370 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: times out of ten. You know I feel that way too. 371 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: I think a lot of this has to do with, 372 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: I mean, the disruption ability and stuff that really doesn't 373 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: show on the stat sheet because I looked at force fumbles, TFLs. 374 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: I looked at everything, every number I could find it. Yeah, 375 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: it's all Mario. And you know, now Clowney can compete 376 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: in the force fumbles and some of the TFLs, and 377 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: Clowney hasn't been able to play as long as Mario 378 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: was in the league, right, so you know, maybe Clowney 379 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: turns into this highly productive you know, he's three years 380 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: in a row of double digit sacks. I don't know, 381 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: but he has yet to get there to double digit 382 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: sack and Mario was there very often. And Mario I 383 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: thought he was on a Hall of Fame trajectory until 384 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: he got injured in twenty eleven and had to go 385 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: out with five, which is his earliest exit ever in 386 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: a season. Every other season he's played I think at 387 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: least thirteen games, So Mario stuck around ten years. Very productive. 388 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I think you're right. Clowney scared 389 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: teams more. I think offensive coordinators were probably up later 390 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: at night worried about what Clowney would do that Mario. Yeah, 391 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely the case. And you know, obviously 392 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Mario got hurt in a twenty eleven season and was 393 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: crushing it early in at twenty eleventh season, And I 394 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: would love to have seen it an obviously butterfly effect 395 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: of him staying healthy that whole year. He stays healthy 396 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: of all of twenty eleven in twenty twelve. First of all, 397 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: is the result different in twenty eleven? That then changed 398 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: your draft position? But then because he chooses to leave 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: in twenty even because you don't really know what you 400 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: have at that point, he is in Journey's banged up. 401 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: He goes to Buffalo, your draft, Whitney merciless. So do 402 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: your draft wit if you've got it, if you've got 403 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: Mario fully healthy and he's going and he just crushing 404 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: it with what on that defensive line now with the 405 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: guys that have there, Cody or O Mitchell, etc. Yeah, 406 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: do you end up drafting Whitney merciless? And if you 407 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: don'tn who do you drafted twenty twelve? There's so many 408 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: things that happened. When he tears that pack and moves on, 409 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: it just changes the trajectory and probably changes it to 410 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: a point where you end up having to draft number 411 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: one overall after a horrible twenty thirteen season. But I 412 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: just know that listening to players, listening to coaches, kind 413 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: of watching on the field, Clowney scared them. Clowney worried 414 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: them in some cases more than even JJ at times. 415 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: And in that Philadelphia game, you could see it. You 416 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: could see that Philadelphia was like, how do we handle 417 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: this guy? And the jack the double teams and the 418 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: chips were going to Clowney in that game. And if 419 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: you watched it, you didn't know who was who? You're like, 420 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: who's nineties? That what? That would have been your first 421 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: thought because in that game he was so completely dominant. 422 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was that was Clowney to a tea, 423 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: show up for a big game, and Manny showed up. 424 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: All right, next, who's better? Who's better? I'm gonna go 425 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: old quarterback and young quarterback? And I'm just going right 426 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: to it. Who's better Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick? Who's better? Johnny? 427 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: Name it? Vic played in an NFC championship game. Vic 428 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: was Vick. We all know what happened to the career. 429 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just starting out really compared to Michael Vick, 430 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: has not been able to log as much time, but 431 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: who's better this. This hurts because I've been a I've 432 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: been a Vic guy ever since his freshman year in 433 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, and I've always said this. When they played 434 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine, you know this, having covered seminoles 435 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: that year, nobody, nobody ran with the Florida State Seminals, 436 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: and nobody was ever faster than anybody on the field 437 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: the Florida State Seminals. And when they played a national 438 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: championship game for Genie Tech with Michael Vick and VIC 439 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: was running away from Florida State Seminals, I was like, 440 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: this is a whole different cat. Now, this is a 441 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: whole I would love to do this with my quarterbacks. 442 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: It's just a different ball game. That said, Lamar throws 443 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: the ball I think better than Vic does. I think 444 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: Lamar can be more effective. Now. Vic always had a 445 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: cannon so he could just launch, but the intermediate stuff, 446 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: there were a lot of times he missed that and 447 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I have to take off a scramble and run. Lamar 448 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: I think is very very good utilizing all levels of 449 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the field. And I think another year, I think Lamar 450 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: will continue to evolve and become an even better passer 451 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: as he goes through this and leave kind of a 452 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: throwing moniker, the rower moniker behind and become a dual 453 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: threat passer as opposed to dual threat thrower, where you 454 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: know you can throw a deep he's got the gun, 455 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: but now he can as a passer delivered to all areas. 456 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: So I think Lamar over vick Vic. Never Vic looked 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: at football differently early in his career. It was just 458 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: kind of what he did. All right, you have sixty 459 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: seconds for this next one. It's not gonna do enough time, 460 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna do it maybe later in the week 461 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, who's better better? Idea the soccer super 462 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: League or a college football super division with maybe fifty teams. 463 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: The European super League would actually work. I think if 464 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: if you didn't have some of the UEFA and Champions 465 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: League that you already have, because you could integrate that 466 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: into the the leagues that they have, the Premier League, 467 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: LA League, etc. College football, those groups breakaway, that would 468 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: be their primary group, that would be the group, right, 469 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: and I think that that wouldn't work. The super League 470 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: was always gonna be replacing Champions League, but it wasn't 471 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna replace their their domest their leagues. Yeah, but that 472 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: would probably have a, you know, a ripple effect on 473 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: Champions League, So I would say better idea. I think 474 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: the Super League is a better idea. I just think 475 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: it was executed poorly. College Football super League with like 476 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: fifty SMO teams. That's coming. I know that's coming. I 477 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: know that's definitely coming down the road. Very cool, Johnny, 478 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, appreciated. Mark, thank you all right, Coming 479 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: up DEEPCU with information you need to know on some 480 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: new Texans very cool stories, cool stuff coming up by 481 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Pick out by Texans Radio. Pick out by 482 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. It's tech since Radio. Mark Vandermer with you, 483 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: joined now by dep Situ lead writer, Houston, Texans dot Com, 484 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: Texas TV, all the rest of it. DP. It's been 485 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: a while since we caught up, so I thought let's 486 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: do it now. I know you've been doing a Meet 487 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: the Texan series. You've been writing a whole lot this offseason. 488 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: No shortage of players to write about. You are really 489 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: when free agency kicks off, we write a few stories 490 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: about the players, we have some press conferences, and then 491 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: we just sort of twiddle our thumbs until the draft starts. 492 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: But I started this Meet the Player series several weeks 493 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: ago when Nick Kisario was just in this flurry of 494 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: signing new free agents, because you know, I thought a 495 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of our fans are out there wondering who they are, 496 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: and we as people covering the team, want to know 497 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: more about these players, and I thought, well, this is 498 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: a good exercise in learning about each player. And there's 499 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: just so many new players. I mean, we I think 500 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: when we hit training camp and the preseason, we're gonna 501 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: we're all gonna need rosters because there's a lot more 502 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: newer faces and familiar faces. But the Meat the Texan 503 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: series has been a lot of fun to cover because 504 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I feel like you really get a sense of these players, 505 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: and when they do have their press conferences, we've seen 506 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: a few of them here this offseason. It sort of 507 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: fills in the gaps of their resume and where they've 508 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: been and sort of their journey to get to Houston. Well, 509 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: it reminds me of some commercials I used to hear 510 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: in my youth, like how do we do it volume right? 511 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: With the Houston Texans this offseason, the volume of players 512 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: extremely high, but some stories pop more than others, or 513 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: some people do. What were some of the free agents 514 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: one or two or three of them that really stood 515 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: out to you? Or acquisitions. I know there were a 516 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: few trades in the mix, of course, well, I mean 517 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: a lot of them. It's it's you know what we 518 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: had like seventy over seventy transactions. So of the ones 519 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I've done so far, because I'm still cranking through them 520 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: and we're trying to release one a day, So I'll 521 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: tell you out of the ones that I've done so 522 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: far that the last one I wrote was comu grew 523 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: j Hill, the linebacker from Hawaii. You know, he won 524 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring with the Eagles a few years back. 525 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: But it's funny to see the ties of how they 526 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: end up in Houston because he was actually drafted by 527 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots by Nick Cassario and then was a part 528 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of roster cuts before the start of the season and 529 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: then went on to have a really good career with 530 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles and spent twenty twenty with the Dolphins. Really 531 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: versatile skill set. That's something I'm sort of seeing across 532 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: all the different storylines. But you know, being from Hawaii, 533 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: he likes to surf. I check out, I mean, I 534 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: follow all of them on social media now as I 535 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: get to know them, so a lot of varied interest. 536 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: There there's one player, o Lineman Coletoner. I texted you 537 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: guys that day. I was like, he went to the 538 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: same high school as me. He's from Greenwood, Indiana. He 539 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: went to Roncoli High School and then went to Harvard. 540 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: So I felt like, just by proxy, I should be 541 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: considered smart because somebody from my high school went to Harvard. 542 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm totally kidding, but he's also a drummer for a 543 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: band called Blind melanin which I don't know people are 544 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: familiar with the group Blind Melon Yan and Huon, the 545 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: lead singer who died of a drug overdose. And then 546 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: I mean he was from West Lafiette, Indiana. But Coltner 547 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: had a pretty interesting background having gone to Harvard. He 548 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: did a lot of internships state State Street Bank. He 549 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: also interned for Indiana Senator Todd Young linebacker Christian Kirksey, 550 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting. I'd totally forgotten about this, 551 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: but then in just doing the research, I remember that 552 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: he was part of the Madden twenty fifteen glitch where 553 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: they had one really teeny tiny linebacker one foot two 554 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: inches that was him, And I went down this wormhole 555 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: one day of just watching all of the interviews that 556 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: he did about overcome his size to be successful in 557 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: the league. And and you know, I saw some highlights 558 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: of one foot two inch Kirksey high fiving like a 559 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: regular sized player on the field. So you know, it's 560 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: like I really enjoy not just their football backgrounds, because 561 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us know where some of 562 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: these guys went to college and where, you know, like 563 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: their NFL career, like the highlights of it, but just 564 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: sort of more about them. Quarterback Ryan Finley, who we 565 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: knew played for the Bengals last year. I was really 566 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: impressed with what a great athlete he was, like at 567 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: the high school level, whatever sport he picked up, he 568 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: just excelled at. And Mark as a basketball player, you 569 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: will appreciate this. He once scored thirty seven points in 570 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: a basketball game. He made one hundred percent of his 571 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: shots in that game, did not miss a single shot 572 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: for Paradise Paradise Valley High, which sounds like a romance 573 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: novel series that I read when I was in junior high. 574 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: It was at twenty twelve twenty thirteen basketball champions for 575 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: his high school he scored thirty seven straight points. He 576 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: also led Arizona in the whole state in passing yards 577 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: and with thirty five passing touchdowns. In high school, he 578 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: was like on roller hockey. He was on the USA 579 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: roller hockey team, played roller hockey for ten years. He 580 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: was just a phenomenal athlete. Had some injuries in college transferred, 581 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: but you know, you can see why these guys are 582 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: able to have the career that they have in the league, 583 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: and you kind of hope that that ceiling is still 584 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: there for him and maybe he just starts a fresh 585 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: chapter and you just see what they can sort of 586 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: add collectively to this roster. But it's it's been a 587 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun getting to know these players if you 588 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: ask me, and the assistant coaches too. You know, Drew's 589 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: done a lot of work on that, but man, there 590 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of guys to get to know. When 591 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: you look at this assistant coaches roster. You know, Tim 592 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: Kelly's back obviously as offensive coordinator. I love pet Hamilton 593 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: being part of this crew, and you know, Lovey Smith, 594 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: who's done everything. You know. I think it's it's interesting 595 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: to point out, Yeah, Mike Rabel to the one year 596 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator in twenty seventeen. But when you look 597 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: at the last three, now, you know fully assigned defensive 598 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: coordinators and Rabel had that year. But you have Wade 599 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: Phillips going into Romeo Cornell going into Lovey Smith, you know, 600 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and all guys are former head coaches, which I like 601 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: as well. So it's an interesting group and I like 602 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: their I mean, they're temper It all seems very similar, 603 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, just a really experienced seen a lot of 604 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: football coached a lot of really big name players. Obviously 605 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith, I mean, Wade Phillips and Romeo Cornell. You know, 606 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: they're all they're all very much esteemed in that category. 607 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: And and Lovey Smith has had a career. Hardy Knickerson, 608 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: who's a linebacker that we signed. He played for Lovey 609 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: at Illinois. His dad was a four time All Pro. 610 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: He also played for Lovey, and then he went on 611 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: to coach with Lovey the Hardy Knickerson Senior. Yeah, that's 612 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: how long Lovey Smith's been around in this league. You know, 613 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about these names on the coaching staff. 614 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Drew's doing a very similar series with 615 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: getting into the coaches, Pet Hamilton, you know the names 616 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: that these guys have worked with over the years. I'm 617 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: excited to see what they bring to this coaching staff. 618 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: From their perspective, I think it adds a lot of 619 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: gravitas as assistant coaches, because sometimes you get assistant coaches 620 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, great, these are assistant coaches. But 621 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's some big name assistants on the staff. 622 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: So you becoming in a bunch to do Texans three sixty, 623 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: You've been writing a ton, You're doing a lot of 624 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: zoom stuff still. So here we are still in the pandemic, 625 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: but coming out of it. What's it like to do 626 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: your job during this time because a year ago we're 627 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: kind of like burrowing in, you know, we're going into 628 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: hibernation and getting to do our jobs all on zoom, 629 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: all virtually digitally. But here we are at the draft 630 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: next week. It's gonna be interesting. I don't know exactly 631 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: how it's going to go down yet. We're still sort 632 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: of formulating our plans. But what do you think of 633 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: where we're at now? I mean, I like it compared 634 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: to last year. I felt like last year it was 635 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: all hands on deck. I mean, we didn't really even 636 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: understand how Zoom fully worked. Now that we have a 637 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: good handle on Zoom and we're able to you know, 638 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: I like being able to go in and shoot TV 639 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: stuff like you mentioned going in and shooting Texans three 640 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: sixty when I need to. I like being able to 641 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: write at home. I personally like to just be in 642 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: my sweats and you know, be comfortable. I like to 643 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: do press conferences on Zoom because sometimes you're just waiting 644 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: around for a long time for these players to come out. 645 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: I really do miss the in person player interviews. I 646 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: hope that this year we're moving more in that direction. 647 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: It seems like we're moving a little bit more towards normal, 648 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: with still elements of pandemic and place. But I've seen 649 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: some of my counterparts from other teams doing very very 650 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 1: very wide shot, socially distanced interviews with players and coaches, 651 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: and I mean that's the part that I really miss 652 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: because I feel like we can interview these guys on Zoom. 653 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: We can write stories from home, but until you're in 654 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: the locker room or on the practice field and talking 655 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: to them, that's when you really develop that rapport and 656 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: get a sense of players and get a sense of 657 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: what they're all about. And for me, that's my favorite 658 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: part of my job, is the deep slant getting to 659 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: interview players. It's fine on zoom, it's great on zoom 660 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: at least we're able to still do it. But I'm 661 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: really looking forward to the day that we can sort 662 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: of incorporate a little bit more of that in person 663 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: stuff as we move forward. So you've been vaxed, right 664 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: I have. I've got my second one. It was not fun, 665 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: but someone had warned me. They're like, don't you and 666 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: your husband get your second shot on the same day? 667 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, whatever, I've had the first one. 668 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: I was totally fine, sons, but just to air on 669 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: the side of caution, I had my husband do his 670 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: like a good forty eight hours after mine, and that 671 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: was probably the best advice I got Maderna. And I 672 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know if that makes a difference or not, but 673 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: I've had had friends that have suffered side effects from both. 674 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Now you you've had COVID, So how did it compare 675 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: to actually having COVID? I heard it's still pretty bad. Well, 676 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the first I had side effects off the first one. 677 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: I have not had the second one yet. Oh, and 678 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why am I getting this thing? It's COVID revisited. 679 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: I just had mini COVID, you know, a three day 680 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: version of what I had before, because as you know, 681 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, I've had the symptoms, I 682 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: mean really bad when I had COVID did but yeah, 683 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: and I made it through, obviously, but I have the 684 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: second one. It was scheduled the night before the draft, 685 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, there's no way I'm doing that because 686 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: I have to be alert, I have to be on. 687 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: So I rescheduled it for after the draft. Yeah, they 688 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: let me do it. That's smart. I mean I would 689 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: if anyone's listening and is getting your COVID, just don't 690 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: do it on a day when you got something super important. 691 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: The next morning, because I was just so exhausted, like 692 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: I thought I was fine, I went dropped my kids 693 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: offic gold, then I came home and I'm like, I'm 694 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: just gonna sleep maybe thirty minutes, and then I awoke 695 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: five hours later, right, and you know, I had a 696 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: little burst of energy. I was able to get some 697 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: stuff done and then I was wiped out again. So 698 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't as bad as maybe some people, but I 699 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't super productive that day. I think, you know, 700 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: with the players and everything the league is going through 701 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: with players coming in or not coming in, and I 702 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: know that there was a report last week the Texas 703 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: weren't going to come in. Then you have forty players 704 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: show up on Monday, which was awesome, and who knows 705 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: how this is all going to play out. But I 706 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: also read that you might need a booster vaccine before 707 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: the holidays, and I'm thinking that's football season, ladies and gentlemen. 708 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if these players if that's a good idea. 709 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, do it on a Monday day, 710 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: like right after the game, not before the game, because 711 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: what if you get side effects from it? Yeah? I 712 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: read that so six months out, which is right around 713 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: cold and flu season. But maybe they could push it 714 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: out till after the season. I don't know. I don't 715 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: know how the booster is going to work. I think 716 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: of it, all the people that got the shot first, 717 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: like all these elderly people that got there's in January, 718 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: they'll be up for a booster much much sooner. But 719 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's good because you want people that are 720 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: more at risk to be fully vaccinated and first in line, 721 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: first in line, ready to go. Final thought here, any 722 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: show's worth binge watching that I've missed, because I mean 723 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: when we started talking about this, it was Tiger King 724 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: a year ago, and in the last year I've done 725 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: all seasons of Suits Succession, Ray Donovan. I'm working on 726 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: some other ones now. Snowfall is what I've picked up, 727 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: which I didn't even know about. It's on FX. It's 728 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: pretty good. I saw a debate on Twitter that it 729 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: might be better than the Wire. It's not better than 730 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: the Wire, but it's pretty good. Do you have anything 731 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: for me? DP? I am really embarrassed to admit some 732 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: of the stuff that I watch The Bachelor, I binge 733 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: watched a show called House of Hope, which was about 734 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: the Hoe family. They're Vietnamese and they live in art 735 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: About and they live in River Oaks About HBO. Max 736 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: and I actually know someone in the show because someone 737 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: said the kids go to the same school as your kids, 738 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, it's a big school, Like 739 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: I probably don't know who they are. But then when 740 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: I saw the main character Washington home his wife, I 741 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I've served on some committee 742 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: or something with her. She looks so familiar. She's very sweet. 743 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: But I watched I binge watched that. It's only like 744 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: six episodes. But the fun part about that is I 745 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: love watching shows based in Houston because you're like, oh, 746 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: I've been there, and well there's the Galeria, and you know, 747 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: they do a lot of stuff in the river Oaks 748 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: district and a lot of the restaurants stay frequent. It's 749 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of cool to just to see a lot of 750 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: highland village in ropes and a few places that I'd 751 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: never even been to before on that show. So I 752 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: still love watching Urban Cowboy terms of endearment all these 753 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: flicks that are based in Houston. Anyway, dB, thanks a 754 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: lot for being with us. Thanks Mark, there's DP City. 755 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Let's continue with the program. More coming up as we 756 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: go around the league next on Texans Radio. It's on 757 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. It's on Texas. Final segment here on Texans 758 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: Radio tonight, and we began the show talking about the 759 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: report yesterday forty players working out at NRG Stadium for 760 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. And this is after that was reported 761 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: last week that the Texans would not be working out 762 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: as a squad at the stadium along with so many 763 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: other teams in the National Football League. A lot of 764 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: this as union stuff. By the way, players definitely know 765 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: they need to work out whichever way they do, whether 766 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: they do it in the facility with people or outside 767 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: of the facility privately, or with certain individuals that are 768 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: team members outside of the facility, whatever the case may be, 769 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: this is their livelihood, this is what they do. They 770 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: know they need to get ready for a season. I 771 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: don't know how this will shape things long term. As 772 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: Johnny said, it is voluntary. So if it's voluntary, I 773 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: mean technically you don't have to be there, even though 774 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: over the years we've seen near one hundred percent participation 775 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: around the league club to club for these voluntary offseason workouts, 776 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: blending into OTAs eventually the mandatory mini camp that takes 777 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: place in mid to late June. So we'll see how 778 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: plays out this yere. Obviously COVID has a great deal 779 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: to do with it. I can tell you this the 780 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: building you do see players around. I am not in 781 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: that inner tier as I wasn't during the season. I'll 782 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: probably blend in at some point. Hey, getting vaxed I've 783 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: had the first one. The second one is on the way. 784 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: I've reported to everybody that I've had COVID. I had 785 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: it during the season. Not that that matters much anymore 786 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: to the scientists. If you've had it, hey get the vaccination. Anyway, Look, 787 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: if it's available, go ahead and do it. Obviously, that's 788 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: something I'm doing and I want to be a part 789 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: of everything this season. Want to be on that plane 790 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: traveling to games. We did so many games remotely, those 791 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: road games, we did them off monitors. We feel like 792 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: we pulled it off, had all the good audio, all 793 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: the good visuals that we could describe the action with, 794 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: but it's just not the same. A couple of other 795 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: things we hit on the number one overall, picking the 796 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: draft stuff with this being the anniversary when David Carr 797 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: was drafted. Of course, this week with Alex Smith retiring, 798 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, I heard Sean Pendergass this morning bring up 799 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: a point that I always like to remind people of 800 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: regarding Alex Smith, which is, yay was number one overall 801 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, and a lot of people 802 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: forget that that he was not successful in his first 803 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: few years in San Francisco. There was one game here 804 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. The forty nine Ers came 805 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: in and the Texans beat them that day. Mike Singletary 806 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: was the head coach, but Smith threw three touchdown passes 807 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: in the second half, and I'll never forget that. I 808 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: also remember Alex Smith played in the Reggie Bush Bowl. 809 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: That was New year Year's Day two thousand and six, 810 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: the last game of the Capers era. As Alex Smith 811 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: was squaring off against David Carr, who got hurt in 812 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: the game, and Tony Banks came in and eventually the 813 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Texans lost in overtime to lock up the number one 814 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: overall pick in the draft. So the Texans sort of 815 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: have a history, not sort of, they have a history 816 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: with Alex Smith. They played him obviously as a forty 817 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: nine er, they played him obviously as a Chief. He 818 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: started that playoff game that the Chiefs won thirty to nothing, 819 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: and they were looking like they were going to end 820 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: Alex Smith's career in twenty eighteen when JJ Watt got 821 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: him and forced or caused I mean, I hate to 822 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: put that on on JJ, but the hit caused the 823 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: injury that Alex Smith had to come back from and 824 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: that's been documented so well as Alex Smith miraculously came 825 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: back from that injury. In fact, I missed out on 826 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: a Who's Better. We did Who's Better earlier with Johnny 827 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: and I had one Who's better? Or really, in this case, 828 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: what's more gruesome the Joe Thisman injury suffered at the 829 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: hands or whatever body of Lawrence Taylor, or the Alex 830 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: Smith injury. You could say the Alex Smith recovery might 831 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: be more gruesome, only because we saw so much of 832 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: it on that documentary. The Joe Thisman one was definitely 833 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: a career ender. I don't know if it would have 834 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: been today. I'm sure he's weighed in on that. Hey, 835 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: they are both Washington quarterbacks, so I'm sure thisman has 836 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: been talked to plenty of times about the Alex Smith situation. 837 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: But that thismand injury, it was on the national stage. 838 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: It was Monday night football, was the Giants in Washington 839 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: and huge game back then. And obviously thisman larger than 840 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: life character, and same with Lawrence Taylor, one of the 841 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: greatest defensive players ever, if not the greatest defensive player ever. 842 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: All Right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight. 843 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: Johnny's got Draft Wednesday. Tomorrow, I'll be on the program 844 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of things to go over 845 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: before the draft hits one week from Thursday. Will be 846 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: on every hour of the draft with John Harris analyzing 847 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: every pick, and a whole bunch of other great coverage 848 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: elements for you. Thanks a lot Joanna for producing. Have 849 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: a great night everyone, and go Texans.