Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven
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Speaker 1: Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck
Speaker 1: At Dating. I hope you guys listened to last week's
Speaker 1: episode because that was the episode where I got the
Speaker 1: chance to explain and give some more details about the
Speaker 1: proposal that happened. I'm Annapollo host in Hawaii. UM. We
Speaker 1: have a very special episode for you today because not
Speaker 1: only are we recording live from the Galapagos Islands very
Speaker 1: close towards Charles Darwin conducted much of his research, but
Speaker 1: we have an incredibly special guest co host with us
Speaker 1: this week, the podcast host herself new podcast, True Crime
Speaker 1: Reality Right True Crime Reality Podcast with Eyeart Radio. Kaylan
Speaker 1: Miller Keys is joining us this week. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me again. Thank you for letting us
Speaker 1: have you again. I feel like last week was the
Speaker 1: alternative fact version of the engagement, and this week we're
Speaker 1: actually getting the truth of what has happened when Dean
Speaker 1: got down on one knee after he dragged Klin through
Speaker 1: an eleven mile hike near death experience just to get
Speaker 1: a ring on her finger and not even the ring
Speaker 1: he initially bought her, but one that he gave her
Speaker 1: after he lost it, the actual ring. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a good recap and exactly how I felt. I tried
Speaker 1: so calin. Yeah, I'm gonna let you guys pretty much
Speaker 1: like to. I have some questions, Amy, our producer has
Speaker 1: some questions, but I want to hear from you guys first.
Speaker 1: So Dean, why don't you ask Klin your questions of
Speaker 1: you know how it felt for her when this whole
Speaker 1: journey began. Was I supposed to have questions prepared? Now
Speaker 1: you guys are just talking. I feel like it's better
Speaker 1: if you just talk rather than me insert my question. So, like,
Speaker 1: start from the beginning, Kalin, did you have any idea
Speaker 1: that he was going to propose to you this weekend? Well?
Speaker 1: I yeah, I do want to say. So, you guys
Speaker 1: have already heard my story. So I'm just gonna hand
Speaker 1: the microphone over to her and let her just go.
Speaker 1: And it's good. That's a rare thing. I originally thought
Speaker 1: he was going to propose in Hawaii because we were
Speaker 1: talking about when we were both proposing, and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: my dates aren't flexible, and I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: got to be Hawaii. But then he lost the ring
Speaker 1: and I was like, I guess he's not proposing. So
Speaker 1: that really threw me for a loop. And all my
Speaker 1: friends thought he was doing that to throw me off,
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He actually lost the ring, but he
Speaker 1: did propose with a beautiful ring that I have on
Speaker 1: my finger now that he won't let me show anyone.
Speaker 1: All that to say I did not know he was proposing.
Speaker 1: He definitely threw me off. Oh you just said you
Speaker 1: didn't know that because you lost the ring, then I
Speaker 1: thought you weren't proposing. I gotta say something. Let interject.
Speaker 1: I think she is being very nice by saying that
Speaker 1: she had no idea that it was coming, because I
Speaker 1: secretly think she had every like understanding that it was coming.
Speaker 1: She got her nails done the day before we left.
Speaker 1: I get my nails done every two weeks. I never
Speaker 1: don't have my nails done. And I got them painted
Speaker 1: dirt color. I specifically got them painted the color of
Speaker 1: dirt because whenever I get my nails done and they
Speaker 1: were camping, I get dirt in them. Why would I
Speaker 1: paint my nails dirt colored if I knew I was
Speaker 1: getting engaged. Why would you paint your nails their colored
Speaker 1: at any moment in time. I like the color that
Speaker 1: you have. Actually, by the way, um, oh what's here? Uh?
Speaker 1: There was something else that you did that made me
Speaker 1: suspicious of your knowledge. I can't remember what it is though. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to remember thinking about
Speaker 1: something else that you did. And I was like, that's
Speaker 1: a little fishy. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think. I'm trying to remember what it is,
Speaker 1: all right, anyway, So then back to Kaylin here. So
Speaker 1: we got to Hawaii. We camped one night in Hawaii
Speaker 1: on a public beach and Klin hated it. She didn't
Speaker 1: feel safe. But at the end of the day we
Speaker 1: were safe. Right, Yes, we were safe. But when you're camping,
Speaker 1: there's usually so many other people camping around you, and
Speaker 1: I think a big mistake Dina and I made, um,
Speaker 1: at least for myself. We listened to this crime Junkies
Speaker 1: podcast that was specifically about murders happening while people are
Speaker 1: camping in national parks, which gave me anxiety. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it still sticks with me. So at least, like when
Speaker 1: you're camping there are other campers around, if something's going
Speaker 1: to happen, like could happen to someone else, But we
Speaker 1: were the only campers, the only people intents on this beach.
Speaker 1: So then I was like, if something happens, like, we're
Speaker 1: the only target here. And that's what I thought about,
Speaker 1: as cars are driving up and doing sketchy things at
Speaker 1: two a m. That would be like watching Jaws as
Speaker 1: you were walking into the ocean exactly here. Here's what
Speaker 1: I gotta say about Kalin's logic based off the fact
Speaker 1: that there were no campers around us. If you're driving
Speaker 1: your car down the freeway, are you more likely to
Speaker 1: get into an accident if there's a bunch of other
Speaker 1: cars around or if you're the only car on the freeway.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the possibility for friction is a lot
Speaker 1: higher when there's a lot of people around, Like if
Speaker 1: there's no one around us, I see where you're coming from,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to like diminish your feelings in
Speaker 1: that sense. And it was a little sketchy because we
Speaker 1: there was no marked campsites. I had never camped on
Speaker 1: the beach in Hawaii before, so I don't really know
Speaker 1: what I was doing um. But anyways, all this to
Speaker 1: say is that the proposal trip got off to a
Speaker 1: bit of a rocky start because hotels isn't quite are
Speaker 1: expensive and we were going to start the hike early
Speaker 1: the next day and we got in late that night,
Speaker 1: and so I was like, well, why don't I just
Speaker 1: book this campsite for us for three dollars and then
Speaker 1: I'll get us a nice hotel on the back side
Speaker 1: of the trip after the proposal has already happened. So also, UM,
Speaker 1: I think the mistake I make in camping or hiking. UM.
Speaker 1: For this, I started to google the campsite and people
Speaker 1: were saying that it was dangerous and that they didn't
Speaker 1: feel safe there. So then that added to my not
Speaker 1: feeling safe. And also in that regard for the hike,
Speaker 1: I did no prior research, and I told Dean from
Speaker 1: now on, for the rest of our lives, I will
Speaker 1: not blindly agree to any hike. I'm going to research it.
Speaker 1: Because I started to research a week before we left,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the most dangerous hikes in America.
Speaker 1: I had no idea, and I probably wouldn't agree if
Speaker 1: I agreed if I knew that. So I think my
Speaker 1: downfall is Google in any of these situations with team
Speaker 1: or it's Europe just because it's the most dangerous, because yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you researching a very dangerous
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous hikes in the world would
Speaker 1: be considered your downfall. I would consider that your upfall.
Speaker 1: Just because it's the most dangerous hike, and I'm eric
Speaker 1: cut doesn't make it dangerous though, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's still at the end of the day, it's still
Speaker 1: a hike, and a hike just requires you to put
Speaker 1: one ft in front of the other until you end
Speaker 1: up at the camp site. I'm not saying it was easy,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying like, just because it's the most of
Speaker 1: something doesn't necessarily make it a bad thing. You know
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That was pretty eloquent. I would say, um,
Speaker 1: And in fact, okay, I'll hand it back to Kaylin.
Speaker 1: So do you want to talk about the hike a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, So the hike began, and also the
Speaker 1: day before we left, we flew to Bozeman to see
Speaker 1: Dean's brother and pick up some camera equipment, and Dean's
Speaker 1: brother told me, like, it's pretty sketchy, it's pretty scary,
Speaker 1: and and his brother is so good at hiking rock climbing,
Speaker 1: like he's pretty fearless in my eyes. So for him
Speaker 1: to say it's a little scary for him, to say
Speaker 1: it's really difficult or a little difficult, but a little
Speaker 1: difficult for him, is like super difficult for me. And
Speaker 1: another thing he said was one mile feels a lot
Speaker 1: longer than one mile. And I'm really glad he said
Speaker 1: that because that helped me through the hike, because it's true.
Speaker 1: One mile we started and I was like we had
Speaker 1: to have gone like five miles. We had gone maybe
Speaker 1: one and a half miles, maybe two, And that's how
Speaker 1: the whole hike felt. It was so long, it was
Speaker 1: so difficult. It was like one of the worst hikes
Speaker 1: I've ever done in my life. Um So, I was like,
Speaker 1: in my head, I was telling myself we should get
Speaker 1: to the end camp site, which is eleven miles, but
Speaker 1: I knew that we had a backup which was six
Speaker 1: miles in, and once we were only two miles in,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no chance that I could possibly
Speaker 1: make it eleven miles when these miles just feel so long,
Speaker 1: and mismarked, um so thankfully We camped at the six
Speaker 1: Mile camp site and that was nice. We met a
Speaker 1: friend there who lives there and what's his name, Don
Speaker 1: rich Um, And yeah, it was nice. We eat mashed potatoes. Dean.
Speaker 1: I don't mind dehydrated meals, but Dean didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that, and I don't know if that was part
Speaker 1: of the romance. Aspect was I was trying to make
Speaker 1: us eat good, healthy, real meals, and he did a
Speaker 1: really good job. Like the meals are great. We weren't
Speaker 1: eating um hydrated our freeze, dried pat tie. It was
Speaker 1: really good. It was good. Granted, those meals are delicious,
Speaker 1: but they just messed with your stomach so much. We
Speaker 1: hiked in vegetables. I cut up onions, potatoes, carrots, pepper, sausage,
Speaker 1: and oh gosh, I'm just so great, aren't Do you
Speaker 1: have any more questions? Um? Well, it's funny that you
Speaker 1: say all these things, and I'm not saying they're not true,
Speaker 1: but I do want to point out that every time
Speaker 1: I go on a big hike or a big adventure,
Speaker 1: Caitlin is like, are you excited? And I always say, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not excited. I'm going to be miserable. For the
Speaker 1: next However, many days I'm going to be hiking and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be exhausted and I'm just gonna suck. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And that's exactly what I told her when
Speaker 1: we were hiking into Poli. As we were starting, she
Speaker 1: was like, are you excited? I was like, no, this
Speaker 1: is gonna suck. And she agreed it sucked. But what
Speaker 1: the only reason that it's fun to do these things
Speaker 1: and um, and what Kalin can attest to is after
Speaker 1: the fact, we look back at it with such fond
Speaker 1: memories of the experience. It's hard to look back on
Speaker 1: the experience engagement aside. If we didn't get engaged on
Speaker 1: the trip, we would still look back and be like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that was an awesome trip. Do you disagree? You agree?
Speaker 1: So she agrees, and that's that's the case with all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So although it was kind of miserable in
Speaker 1: the moment looking back, proposal or not, it was still
Speaker 1: a very magical experience. I do agree with what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But also, Dean is a is it type one or
Speaker 1: type two fun m Dean's a type two fun guy
Speaker 1: where he doesn't enjoyed in the moment, but he enjoys
Speaker 1: it after. In the story that he gets to tell
Speaker 1: I'm a type one fun person. I like to have
Speaker 1: fun in the moment and enjoy every aspect of the
Speaker 1: fun I'm having. Um So for him it's it's more fun.
Speaker 1: It was fun for me, but more enjoyable for him.
Speaker 1: The only reason it's more enjoyable for someone like me
Speaker 1: and like this. The only reason something like this is
Speaker 1: more enjoyable for someone like me is because I've done
Speaker 1: it more often and I'm more capable of doing it.
Speaker 1: So it's like I suffer less during it, and I
Speaker 1: still get to feel as much joy after the fact,
Speaker 1: like you did a great job. I want to give
Speaker 1: Kilin all the credit in the world, because that was
Speaker 1: a hard hike. Twenty two miles on the Napoly Coast
Speaker 1: is very challenging, and Klin was an absolute beast. We
Speaker 1: got to the beach and I proposed, and then the
Speaker 1: next day we were trying to navigate how Calin was
Speaker 1: going to get off the beach and we could have
Speaker 1: gotten an emergency helicopter would it costs a thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: And then calind how to go to the hospital with
Speaker 1: an injury quote unquote, and she was like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. It's embarrassing. And I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: then the only other option is for you to hike out.
Speaker 1: And she was so anti hiking out, but then the
Speaker 1: second we started hiking out, she was faster, stronger, braver
Speaker 1: than I've ever seen her in my entire life. And
Speaker 1: she crushed the hike out in spades, and it was
Speaker 1: very impressive. You're welcome, and you would you agree, like
Speaker 1: it's so we did have a SUPERI hike which is
Speaker 1: ten miles and ten miles out, and on that hike
Speaker 1: it's a lot more easy to get a helicopter out,
Speaker 1: so Calin flew out of that one. And I think
Speaker 1: that one is a little different because you actually were
Speaker 1: like in more pain on that one. But if you
Speaker 1: don't have an option of like just getting a free
Speaker 1: ride out, you were very capable and you crushed the
Speaker 1: hike out. It was very impressive, you know, as Dean
Speaker 1: can attest to sometimes, as guys, we just have horrible thoughts,
Speaker 1: you know, like just like things that enter our brain.
Speaker 1: And I have moments from like I can't believe I
Speaker 1: thought that how horrible human, I am, and I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest. When hearing this story, there's something in my
Speaker 1: head that goes, I think Dean went on this trip
Speaker 1: to die because here's something. Well, I'm because, so Dean
Speaker 1: has always said he never wanted to propose. Obviously, I'm joking.
Speaker 1: Let me preface that before we get hate. He wanted
Speaker 1: to propose, But like, in the back of my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, so telling me that Dean
Speaker 1: has always said he's never wanted to propose. Never, So
Speaker 1: here he is in a moment where he has to propose.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to. So I mean he wants to obviously,
Speaker 1: but now I'm just like creating this story in my head.
Speaker 1: Then he goes on this He picks the most dangerous hike,
Speaker 1: hoping that you guys just fall off like Romeo and
Speaker 1: Juliet and died died together. Before he has to propose,
Speaker 1: he creates all these wonderful meals. One could say maybe
Speaker 1: it was his last meals and he wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that they were as delicious as possible. He picks
Speaker 1: the worst possible and then finally gets this extraordinary beach
Speaker 1: and was like, all right, well we survived so now
Speaker 1: I have to propose, right, It's like passing through the gauntlet.
Speaker 1: Once you get to the other side of the gauntlet,
Speaker 1: you know that whatever you had planned to do at
Speaker 1: the end has to happen now because you've you've completed
Speaker 1: all of the trials in front of you and now
Speaker 1: here you are. It is funny too. I think I
Speaker 1: talked about this on last week's episode. How we we
Speaker 1: talked about last week on the episode. I think about
Speaker 1: how Caitlin and I wanted to propose to each other
Speaker 1: and she's now it was me a proposal, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. I'm waiting, and how I was thinking about
Speaker 1: if I should give her the proposal that she would
Speaker 1: deem as her perfect proposal, or should I do it
Speaker 1: this way, which is kind of more my thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like instead of going to the Italian countryside and proposing
Speaker 1: out there, which sounds pretty lovely, Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I was kind of doing it my own way, and
Speaker 1: so now I'm excited to see how she does it
Speaker 1: because I imagine she's going to do it her own way. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. I had it planned like perfectly for
Speaker 1: him originally, and now my plans are shifting because I'm like,
Speaker 1: if this was all about him and what he likes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you proposal the year was all about no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all the things that you enjoy. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I should do a proposal of the things that
Speaker 1: I enjoy. So I'm not sure I did enjoy it
Speaker 1: and you'll still enjoy a proposal for you, Absolutely I will,
Speaker 1: but it maybe won't be as adventures as I was
Speaker 1: originally thinking it would be. Can I hear what your
Speaker 1: original please? It could still happen. I just want to
Speaker 1: hear it. But if you say it out loud then
Speaker 1: you can Maybe then you can put it to bed
Speaker 1: and you can do the other idea that you have.
Speaker 1: I can tell you the one that I was the
Speaker 1: first thought in my mind before I realized it would
Speaker 1: have been like fourteen dollars. I was going to have
Speaker 1: propose to you on a zero gravity flight. I know,
Speaker 1: but it's fourteen dollars. So and if the price keeps
Speaker 1: going up, it goes up a thousand dollars every year,
Speaker 1: So that's not happening. I thought it was like thirty dollars.
Speaker 1: For that it's like or maybe it's now sixteen. I
Speaker 1: think it's eight per person. Oh really, it's actually not
Speaker 1: as bad as I thought, because I know Nick did
Speaker 1: that on his season of The Bachelor with Vanessa, and
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of the executive producers of
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I can't remember when, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't, I don't know, I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: I was angry, but I was like, you guys took
Speaker 1: Nick on the zero gravity flight, Like, what do I
Speaker 1: have to do to get on that flight? Next time?
Speaker 1: I want to go on that date. I don't care
Speaker 1: who it's with. I don't care what happens. I want
Speaker 1: to be on a zero gravity airplane. Um. So that
Speaker 1: would have been a nice proposal. But since we started dating,
Speaker 1: you have talked about that. It's three and a half
Speaker 1: years and so I thought that would be the perfect
Speaker 1: proposal for you, But unfortunately I don't have that kind
Speaker 1: of money. It's just it's pretty cool to think about.
Speaker 1: You would literally be one of maybe, like a thought, well,
Speaker 1: they probably do them a lot nowadays, one of a
Speaker 1: few thousand people in the history of human existence to
Speaker 1: experience zero gravity. That's pretty sweet. That's worth the price tag,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I accept. I'll marry you let's go
Speaker 1: on his zero gravity flight. Kalen, did you when did
Speaker 1: you finally start believing that Dean would propose to you?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine when you first started dating Dean that
Speaker 1: he you thought going to the relationship that this could
Speaker 1: potentially end in marriage, because if everything that Dean was
Speaker 1: doing at the time of his life living in a
Speaker 1: van didn't know if he wanted to get married, kind
Speaker 1: of settled down. So when did you finally realize I
Speaker 1: think he is down for proposing to me and getting married.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the moment was, but I do agree.
Speaker 1: I think we both went into this relationship not expecting
Speaker 1: it to last long um like nevertheless end in marriage.
Speaker 1: But I think we just had so many conversations and
Speaker 1: like talked about I don't know if it was like
Speaker 1: year one or year two, and we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is we're like into this relationship. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know, and it was, but I think we
Speaker 1: just had so many conversations that eventually we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we could do this. But I don't know like what
Speaker 1: moment it was. I think it was just early on
Speaker 1: I put the ring on, we got a cellphone plan, together,
Speaker 1: we joined our bank accounts together, we got a dog together,
Speaker 1: we bought a house together. That's true. We did all
Speaker 1: the steps that married people do. So I think we
Speaker 1: already felt married, and then we had a lot of
Speaker 1: conversations on like should we should we not? And Dean
Speaker 1: didn't want to and then warmed up to the idea.
Speaker 1: For me, it's just like I had already made the
Speaker 1: decision that I was going to spend my life with you,
Speaker 1: So it's like, fine, if you want to get married,
Speaker 1: let's just get married. But then people turn that into
Speaker 1: a headline. Fine, let's get married. You're excited to get married.
Speaker 1: I'm excited spen the rest of my life with you.
Speaker 1: Marriage doesn't excite me as much as that. That's fair,
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, So I know. We also have some
Speaker 1: questions from our producer Amy uh that I wanted to
Speaker 1: invite on here. She prerecorded them. So let's hear our
Speaker 1: first question from our producer Amy Sugarman, who without this
Speaker 1: podcast would not be possible, So thank you Amy. She
Speaker 1: has some questions for you guys. Amy, what's your first question?
Speaker 1: If Calyn wants all your passwords and pass codes, will
Speaker 1: you be okay with that it sounds like this question
Speaker 1: is directed to me. Calin already has all my pass
Speaker 1: codes to everything, and I have hers to everything as well,
Speaker 1: and the pass codes are I'm just kidding. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to share the pass codes, but yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 1: we have each have like three variations of the same
Speaker 1: pass code. I probably shouldn't have said that, but but
Speaker 1: we know we know each other's passwords to everything. So
Speaker 1: and that kind of started early on too, maybe like
Speaker 1: you're one in our relationship, we've always just had trust,
Speaker 1: which has been nice and like transparency. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: I think it happened day one for me. I didn't
Speaker 1: give a crap, but we started sharing our location our
Speaker 1: first like two weeks into dating. Yeah right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just saying I've never I've never had anything
Speaker 1: to hide and either of you. So it's very early
Speaker 1: on that we just did that, which is nice. Dean.
Speaker 1: Once you have children, if Kaylin decides she doesn't want
Speaker 1: you jumping out of airplanes and doing dangerous things, are
Speaker 1: you willing to stop for the sake of the family. Hmm,
Speaker 1: I guess this one is directed to me again as well. Um,
Speaker 1: what I stopped for the sake of family. Oh crap, sorry,
Speaker 1: we're having some audio issues here. I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: this down. Um, what I stopped for the sake of family? Hell? No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whatever I want, whenever I want, and
Speaker 1: no one's gonna stop me. Um, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna answer, and not for you. But but Dean's
Speaker 1: brother now has a child, and Dean and him went
Speaker 1: on a hike, and Dean chose the option to do
Speaker 1: like the more dangerous for vision of the hike, and Brad,
Speaker 1: his brother, because now he's a dad, opted for the
Speaker 1: safer version of the hike. And I can see Dean
Speaker 1: maybe being similar, Like he's still going to do the
Speaker 1: things that he loves, but you've given the option between
Speaker 1: like easy versus uh, death defying, maybe he'll choose the
Speaker 1: easier part. For the record, I don't think that Brad
Speaker 1: shows the easier route because he's a father. I think
Speaker 1: he chose that route because he's lazy and he was
Speaker 1: scared of the more challenging route, which me being the
Speaker 1: non lazy, fearless person that I am, and I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what I was doing until I was already
Speaker 1: halfway through it, and at that point it was too
Speaker 1: late to turn around anyways. But I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: it's possible. I don't think skydiving really is all that dangerous. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can die skydiving, but you can die doing a
Speaker 1: plethora of other things, um, the things I do while exhilarating.
Speaker 1: I don't think our tip particularly very dangerous. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't think skydiving is necessarily something you
Speaker 1: need to give up if your dad, but maybe like
Speaker 1: free soloing. I also haven't jumped out of an airplane
Speaker 1: in a year, so I kind of have already given
Speaker 1: up skydiving. My main Scott having friend moved to Miami,
Speaker 1: and now I have no friends to sky dive with.
Speaker 1: Although John Hershey I think it is his last name,
Speaker 1: Katie's ex boyfriend, is a skydiver and we've never met
Speaker 1: in person, but we flirt all the time on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I want him to be any skydiving buddy, so
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. Um. I've never free sold anything,
Speaker 1: except for I guess in Montana at one time when
Speaker 1: I almost died. But to summarize this whole conversation, UH,
Speaker 1: it might not ever matter because we might not ever
Speaker 1: have kids. If we do have kids, I would probably
Speaker 1: he's up a little bit, sure, but that's just because
Speaker 1: I'll be old and lay. Yeah. I think that Dean,
Speaker 1: you'll definitely ease up. And I also think you guys
Speaker 1: will definitely have kids because for the past however many
Speaker 1: years I've known this guy. Oh, I'm not gonna get engaged.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ever buy a house. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: settle down, I'm not gonna get married, And here he
Speaker 1: is now. Now the thing is, we're not sure if
Speaker 1: we're gonna have kids. I don't I you guys are
Speaker 1: having kids, But I do think that you will tame
Speaker 1: it down because when you have a kid, and I
Speaker 1: can speak from experience, you start thinking about death a
Speaker 1: lot more, even because you think it's not about you
Speaker 1: dying anymore. It's about your child being without their parents.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think about a lot, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not so much me dying. It's like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: if I die, this thing that I love so much
Speaker 1: won't grow up without one of his parents, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, that's more heavy. So that's when I think
Speaker 1: about I'm sure you guys will think about as well,
Speaker 1: Like literally, right before you jump out of the plane, Dean,
Speaker 1: You're like, here we go, and then you'll be like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, oh no, they could all right, never mind, guys,
Speaker 1: you guys go, I'm gonna wait till the plane lands. Um.
Speaker 1: I will say, one of the biggest roadblocks for me
Speaker 1: every wanting to have kids has always been just financial stability. So, uh,
Speaker 1: one of these days, maybe when help I Suck a
Speaker 1: dating podcast turns into like a spinoff reality TV show,
Speaker 1: we signed on to like a three year movie deal,
Speaker 1: and the finances just become a little bit more solid
Speaker 1: than the child could be a lot more realistic. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't. Kalin is back and forth on having kids too.
Speaker 1: We definitely are open steady of adopting a kid. I
Speaker 1: used to be like in a Big Brother program where
Speaker 1: I at once a month, once a week, I can't
Speaker 1: remember how often was would hang out with this young
Speaker 1: boy a j and even that seemed like a lot
Speaker 1: of work. Once a week to hang out with a guy,
Speaker 1: and he was like a twelve year old kid, and
Speaker 1: I was like trying to give you were also in
Speaker 1: your twenties, partying and living like a selfish lifestyle, as
Speaker 1: you should in that a stage of your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another thing too, is I love living a selfish lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I love to be able to just travel to Pakistan,
Speaker 1: go to Antarctica for a month if I want to
Speaker 1: what's baby, what's baby Hunter gonna do? I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Hunter with me. I could take under it with me. Actually,
Speaker 1: pretty baby his name or that'd be pretty sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the boy's name if we have a boy. Wait,
Speaker 1: are you serious? Yes? Hunter Scott Bell. Well, that's amazing
Speaker 1: if I love that name Hunter, and if you guys
Speaker 1: are serious about that, that's so cool that you guys
Speaker 1: already have. Yeah, this guy. I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: gonna have kids, but if we do, his name is
Speaker 1: gonna be Hunter. Well, in fairness, In fairness, I've had
Speaker 1: that name picked out since I was like twelve. So
Speaker 1: and then if we have a girl, it'd beat Debbie
Speaker 1: cal picks the middle name Bell. And if we have
Speaker 1: a third child, then cal can start. Oh I thought
Speaker 1: it would be Scott at the bird. Uh yeah, Michael Scott. No,
Speaker 1: I've had those names picked out ever since I was
Speaker 1: a wee little lad and I don't think you've ever
Speaker 1: had names picked out, So, just because of that timeline alone,
Speaker 1: my name's take President. Okay, But I know people are
Speaker 1: going to come up to you for that, so I
Speaker 1: think you should explain the importance of the names. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you'll come after me, and I'll
Speaker 1: explain the names if and when we get to that
Speaker 1: point in life. But those are the names Hunter, Scott, Bell,
Speaker 1: and Debbie. Calin picks the name Bell. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: tricky because Debbie is an older name, and so it's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine like a young girl, a young seven
Speaker 1: year old girl, being called Deborah. We not Debora. But
Speaker 1: I have a friend named Debbie and she's very cool Debbie,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of like opened her eyes too cool.
Speaker 1: Debbie's right. As long as she's a cool Debbie, she'll
Speaker 1: be fine. But yeah, that's where we're at now, Klin.
Speaker 1: If there was one thing, one behavior the Dean could
Speaker 1: change before your wedding day, what is it? M Um?
Speaker 1: So many to choose from you can only pick one? Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: and we've had this conversation many times. I like to
Speaker 1: be very punctual. My mom was always late when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, so I really try to be on
Speaker 1: time too. Things are early. Dean doesn't have that same
Speaker 1: sense of urgency, so if he could just be on
Speaker 1: time to our wedding, that would be ideal. Sure, easy enough.
Speaker 1: I can I share my retort last time you shared this? Okay,
Speaker 1: I won't. You're welcome, So there you go, punctuality. I'll
Speaker 1: work on it for you, babe. I really want Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson to officiate your wedding, and so when everybody sits down,
Speaker 1: he's like Bronco's Country Let's Ride, Let's rad. That's funny
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, because the guy that I want
Speaker 1: to officiate it is literally Russell Wilson's twin. He gets
Speaker 1: stopped all the time. People ask him if he's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and he has to do it Broncos
Speaker 1: Country Let's Ride. I can't believe he's still I cannot
Speaker 1: believe he still does that Broncos Country Let's Ride. He's worst.
Speaker 1: Um Oh, I don't want groomsmen at my wedding. I
Speaker 1: don't want well, it's kind of up to you. I'd
Speaker 1: be weird if you had bridesmaids and I had no groomsman. Uh,
Speaker 1: I will have zero grooms man. I hate the thought
Speaker 1: of having to have like six friends that I'm like,
Speaker 1: your friends are better friends than everyone else in the crowd.
Speaker 1: And then the people in the crowd that aren't up
Speaker 1: on the groomsman part. Uh Like, oh, like, why am
Speaker 1: I not a groomsman? It just seems like unnecessarily stressful
Speaker 1: to me, So no groomsmen. Um. I just want one
Speaker 1: of my really good friends to officiate, and then everyone
Speaker 1: else is just in their seats. Yes, And I want
Speaker 1: us to all sit on hay bales, and I want
Speaker 1: us to have hay hooks that you drag the hay
Speaker 1: bales into the house after the ceremony for the reception,
Speaker 1: that you then use as a seat in the reception
Speaker 1: as well. But that's the workshoped idea. We can figure
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Speaker 1: favorite podcasts. Do we have another question for Ami, who
Speaker 1: makes most of the decisions with the remote control. Biggest
Speaker 1: pet peeve about dean um care. He likes to pick
Speaker 1: his nose hairs out to make himself sneepy nice. I
Speaker 1: don't love that. Infut flick. Sneezing is so underrated. It's
Speaker 1: one of the most enjoyable bodily urges. Dude, Ashley gets
Speaker 1: so mad at me when I sneeze because I let
Speaker 1: it go. I'm not holding anything back because she tries
Speaker 1: to hold in her sneezes like a psycho and she's like,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I I wind up like it's
Speaker 1: like a hole. It's like, you know, really, I guess
Speaker 1: the next snats back and I'm let because it feels
Speaker 1: so goddamn good. Cover cover with the elbow. It feels great.
Speaker 1: I love it. Most annoying habit Calin has. Oh uh
Speaker 1: do I know this or her habit that she has? Well,
Speaker 1: I have decided just recently that Klin, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is a hypochondriac. I wouldn't nessarily. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's necessarily a habit, but you do have a habit
Speaker 1: of scaring yourself out of things, but I think it's
Speaker 1: more of like what's like a physical habit that you do. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that out there. I wanted
Speaker 1: to put that out into the ether. Uh. You don't
Speaker 1: really have any weird habits and you're the habit is
Speaker 1: that I don't like about. You are telling me not
Speaker 1: to do the habits that you don't like. A mind
Speaker 1: like I was like humming yesterday, and Calin is like,
Speaker 1: don't hump basically, And so you're habits of telling me
Speaker 1: not to do things. That's not that bad, though. One
Speaker 1: word to describe Dean. One word to describe Klin, you first,
Speaker 1: a one word to describe Calin perfect, really feel perfect.
Speaker 1: He's my perfect little angel. But that's three words, perfect
Speaker 1: little angels. So just perfect, say unique. You're unlike anyone
Speaker 1: I've ever met what you are, and you like that
Speaker 1: by yourself, Caitlin, Does Dean remember to put the toilet
Speaker 1: seat down? No? Wait, that is a load. He actually
Speaker 1: doesn't really lift it all the time. I am bread
Speaker 1: with fury right now. I go out of my way
Speaker 1: all the time to lift and replace the toilet seat,
Speaker 1: and I am good. Now you're telling me that's going unnoticed.
Speaker 1: You're telling me you don't recognize all this hard work
Speaker 1: that I do for you. I thought you peter with
Speaker 1: the seat down. Sometimes you do, because the soilet seat
Speaker 1: is always down when you go there to use it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean I pe with the toilet seat down. That
Speaker 1: just means I'm very good at replacing the toilet seat. Yes,
Speaker 1: blown away. Right now, I'm gonna start peeing all over
Speaker 1: the seat. I have a question do sometimes? That's why
Speaker 1: I think you don't lift all the time. Yeah, Is
Speaker 1: it really that bad to pee with the toilet seat down?
Speaker 1: Just if you miss? Well, here's here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: I don't live the toilet. See. I've never lived at
Speaker 1: the toilet. See. I gotta be honest. I was never
Speaker 1: taught to lift the toilet seat. So when I in
Speaker 1: my older years, found out that that was a thing,
Speaker 1: because obviously, you know the toilet seats up and down.
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, oh, you lift it for
Speaker 1: guys when they pee, and you put it down for girls,
Speaker 1: because I remember, this is how I found out. This
Speaker 1: is honestly how I found out. This is so pathetic.
Speaker 1: I was watching What Happens in Vegas with Ashton Kutcher
Speaker 1: and Cameron Diaz, and there is a scene in there
Speaker 1: where he takes the toilet seat off and she goes
Speaker 1: to pee in the middle of the night and she
Speaker 1: falls in because the toilet seat is not there. And
Speaker 1: then I was thinking about the toilet seat and the
Speaker 1: purpose of it, because I'm like, obviously they sit there.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, the do you never
Speaker 1: put the toilet seat down? Because all my life I
Speaker 1: assumed that putting the toilet seat down was putting like
Speaker 1: the lid down, not the seat, the lid, and that
Speaker 1: like guys didn't do that. And I was like, but
Speaker 1: then so many people I go to their houses and
Speaker 1: the toilets up what I thought with the toilet seat
Speaker 1: was And then I was like, I don't get it,
Speaker 1: Like they always say that guys don't put the toilet
Speaker 1: seat down, but like any restaurant I go to, it's
Speaker 1: always up. But then I realized, wait a minute, that's
Speaker 1: like the lid and then the seat is the actual seat,
Speaker 1: and all my life I've been peeing with the seat down.
Speaker 1: Soon but as a guy, like how bad is your aim?
Speaker 1: You've got You've got a really good practice on a
Speaker 1: small target, which is pretty impressive. There's this, uh this
Speaker 1: tick talk video of some guy talking on a podcast
Speaker 1: about this exact scenario. Very good. It's pretty funny. It's
Speaker 1: a guy and who I assume was his girlfriend talking
Speaker 1: and he's saying, why would I lift the toilet seat
Speaker 1: up to Pete just to put it back down after
Speaker 1: I'm done. That's two actions per yearinary event. And then
Speaker 1: when the girl goes Pete, it's zero because she doesn't
Speaker 1: have to put pick up or put down. And what
Speaker 1: he was trying to say was he should pick the
Speaker 1: toilet seat up, do his business, and then leave, because
Speaker 1: that's one action per yearinary event. And then when the
Speaker 1: girl comes in to use the bathroom, she would lower it.
Speaker 1: That's one action per yearinary event. It's just an equal
Speaker 1: division of labor, essentially, is what he's trying to say.
Speaker 1: And it makes a lot of sense. And I'm now
Speaker 1: now that you're telling me that you don't notice how
Speaker 1: hard they work to keep the toilet seat down for you,
Speaker 1: it's game over. No, no, no, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Please don't change. Also, I gotta say this to underrated
Speaker 1: for a guy is just to sit down to Pete.
Speaker 1: I I love sitting down to Pete, but like half
Speaker 1: the time I'll go just sit down, pick a load
Speaker 1: off percent because now it's just when I need some
Speaker 1: alone time. I'm like, all right, I'm and I don't
Speaker 1: have to go number two, Like I'm just gonna go pee.
Speaker 1: I'll sit there and just be on there five minutes
Speaker 1: and just just breathe a little bit, maybe scroll through TikTok,
Speaker 1: have a nice little time by myself. Um, oh, what
Speaker 1: was I gonna say? Oh? Dean blew my mind one
Speaker 1: time years ago when we used to record this podcast
Speaker 1: in the I Heart Radio UH building. We went to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and we're in the urinals next to each other,
Speaker 1: and Dean said something that literally blew my mind, and
Speaker 1: he goes, you know what doesn't make sense to me?
Speaker 1: He said, our hands are so dirty. We have to
Speaker 1: wash them obviously, but before we wash them, we touched
Speaker 1: our genitals, Like we touched like that part. Why would
Speaker 1: we not wash our hands prior to using the bathroom?
Speaker 1: And then I was like, that makes total sense to me,
Speaker 1: because our hands are so dirty from touching door knobs
Speaker 1: or shaking hands. They get so much bacteria in though.
Speaker 1: And then we go to the bathroom and before washing
Speaker 1: our hands, we will literally you know, we have to
Speaker 1: do that. We gotta get it out, so like you
Speaker 1: touch it and then like you're touching it and then
Speaker 1: you're moving the back to here from your hands to
Speaker 1: like a sensitive part of the body, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, they should. We
Speaker 1: should pre wash and there should maybe even be penis
Speaker 1: washers in the bathroom too, because if anything needs to
Speaker 1: be washed after peeing on a man, it's the penis.
Speaker 1: So it just get like a little holes you stick
Speaker 1: in and it just spurts this a little antiseptic on
Speaker 1: it or something. Yeah, like a little like a little
Speaker 1: glory hole you just go in. That sounds like it
Speaker 1: was sting. Well, it's it's an imperfect system. Will work
Speaker 1: out the king. It is imperfect system. There's some merit
Speaker 1: to the idea. So my last, my final question before
Speaker 1: we sound off and then quickly talk about what the
Speaker 1: punishment should be for our fantasy football This time, Kalen
Speaker 1: uh So, Dean talked about how you both wanted to
Speaker 1: pose to each other. So is there a uh timetable,
Speaker 1: like do you think this potentially could happen before the
Speaker 1: end of the year or do you not even want
Speaker 1: to say because you don't want to ruin this price
Speaker 1: at all. No, it definitely will happen before the end
Speaker 1: of the year. The problem is, Dean is so hard
Speaker 1: to track down. So like my plan to make this extravagant,
Speaker 1: elaborate proposal is just like quickly, I'm realizing it's just
Speaker 1: unrealistic because he has a golf tournament, he's going here,
Speaker 1: he's like always doing stuff, and I've tried to make
Speaker 1: a plan without giving it away that I'm like trying
Speaker 1: to plan the proposal. So I think it might be
Speaker 1: a little bit lamer than what I'm anticipating, but it
Speaker 1: will be before the end of the year. She's flying
Speaker 1: out a photographer for a random engagement shoot in December.
Speaker 1: I would be shocked if it was. No, it's definitely
Speaker 1: not that that's in January. It's happening before the end
Speaker 1: of the year, right right, right right. You know, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite characteristics about myself is I'm hard to
Speaker 1: pin down. So good luck pinned me down for this
Speaker 1: engagement because gathering stone don't or a rolling stone don't
Speaker 1: gather any moss, so they say, m I'm sorry now,
Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was daydreamed about like all the
Speaker 1: ways she could propose. I was thinking of, like, because
Speaker 1: golf is so important to you, and not I hope
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, because I don't want to
Speaker 1: blowuper spot. If this is even a possibility, but like
Speaker 1: somehow you put a ball in on like the eighteenth
Speaker 1: hole and you've got to reach in and then like
Speaker 1: there's a ring there. I wanted to do something golf related,
Speaker 1: but he was like, I don't want to be known
Speaker 1: as the golf guy. I do cooler stuff than that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to be known
Speaker 1: as a golf guy. Ei. There are times. There are
Speaker 1: times where I play golf, like like four or five
Speaker 1: times in a week, and after I look I don't
Speaker 1: know the week. I look back on the weekend like, wow,
Speaker 1: I did nothing this week and I have nothing to
Speaker 1: be proud of. I shot nine five every day this week,
Speaker 1: and I am so upset and I never want to
Speaker 1: play golf again. And the next week comes around, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: all I want to do is play golf. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to be known as a golf guy, you know.
Speaker 1: I want to be known as like the cool skydiving,
Speaker 1: rock climbing, mountain climbing cool guy. Yeah. Ashley sometimes wonders
Speaker 1: why I play sports because I'll be in a bad
Speaker 1: mood afterwards. She's like, do you even enjoy playing? I'm
Speaker 1: like yes, but when I don't play well, it ruins
Speaker 1: my day. And then I usually don't play well because
Speaker 1: I'm not good. Um, so quickly before we signed off
Speaker 1: on this podcast, Uh well, first of all, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for sharing your story, and and Caitlin, thank
Speaker 1: you for sharing the true side of the story and
Speaker 1: not Dean's alternate side of it. Um, but congratulations to
Speaker 1: you both. It's so exciting. Um, I'm very excited to
Speaker 1: hear Caitlin what you have in store for your proposal.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, you guys are just both often awesome people.
Speaker 1: So congratulations, it's very exciting. And before we sign off,
Speaker 1: Dean and I are playing each other in fantasy football
Speaker 1: this week is the annual help I suck at eating
Speaker 1: Football off if you will. I'm four and four in
Speaker 1: the league. Dean, what the hell's your record? Four and four?
Speaker 1: We're both four and four. I think I'm porn for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we both suck. Um. We're also do you know
Speaker 1: who else is for? There's so many people who are
Speaker 1: four and four in this league? Tanner's four and four,
Speaker 1: Chris Randon is four and four, Jason Tartik is for
Speaker 1: and four, Nick is three and five. He sucks Joe.
Speaker 1: Do you know what grocery store? Joe's record is one
Speaker 1: and seven? Probably pretty bad. I think he's pretty consistently bad.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you know who number one is?
Speaker 1: Do you know who's leading the well? So Michael Michael
Speaker 1: A is tied. So it's Michael A, Ben and Bennett.
Speaker 1: If you remember Bennett from I don't know, uh, tastious season,
Speaker 1: it was clarentatious season. Um, yeah, they're all in first place.
Speaker 1: Holy ship anyway, So no Bennett, No, Bennett is the
Speaker 1: executive producer. Oh yeah, it's Benett's because yeah, that's Bennett.
Speaker 1: Bennett was like that he's been like the EP for
Speaker 1: like years and years. Oh yeah, yeah, it's Bene Benett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: never mind, I'm losing my mind any who. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: so we do have to figure out, like what's our
Speaker 1: punishment gonna be. Maybe Caitlin can think of something. So
Speaker 1: Jared and I are playing each other this week in
Speaker 1: fantasy football? What could the loser? What happens to the loser? Um?
Speaker 1: I really liked what Mark had to do, your friend
Speaker 1: Mark for fantasy That was for losing the entire season, though,
Speaker 1: what was it? What we made we in our fantasy
Speaker 1: football league. We made the loser. He had to reshoot
Speaker 1: ESPN the Body magazine issue. So he's like naked with
Speaker 1: a football, like you're doing a puny football post. There
Speaker 1: is no way I'm showcasing any part of my body.
Speaker 1: I agree, not very single game. If punishmentber a single
Speaker 1: game has to be a lot more lighthearder than that.
Speaker 1: Our other one is. It's pretty uh in our other league,
Speaker 1: same league actually that the guy did the esp in
Speaker 1: the body issue. I don't love this punishment very much,
Speaker 1: especially because I'm in last place. But loser has to
Speaker 1: spend twenty four hours in an eye hoop and every
Speaker 1: pancake you eat the ducts one hour from your steak.
Speaker 1: And it's just a little it's a little played out.
Speaker 1: I think to many people are doing that one. But
Speaker 1: I want maybe we can have the listeners. That's nothing
Speaker 1: but the pancake thing. Hold on. So if you tell
Speaker 1: me so, if I get a stack, If I don't,
Speaker 1: because I knowing I lost the season, I would go
Speaker 1: in starving. I would not have eaten anything. That's where
Speaker 1: I would start my twenty four hours and a stack
Speaker 1: of pancakes. If I ordered, I know six pancakes is
Speaker 1: a lot, but I could eat six pancakes in one
Speaker 1: sitting if I was really hungry. Okay, so that's eighteen hours,
Speaker 1: and then I just spend two more hour Like I
Speaker 1: bring my laptop. I worked for two hours, So what
Speaker 1: am I down to now? And I have six pancakes
Speaker 1: and then I'm still ten hours? See it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a long as day. Yeah yeah, I would. I
Speaker 1: think I would get there, get to i Hub at
Speaker 1: like five am and just down like six pan kicks
Speaker 1: like you said, uh, and then do my best to
Speaker 1: eat like maybe six more and then that way I'll
Speaker 1: be out of there by dinner time. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the that's like the it sucks because I'm two and
Speaker 1: six in that league, well behind everyone I auto drafted
Speaker 1: because I was in Nepal during the draft two QB league,
Speaker 1: and I auto drafted Zack Wilson and Carson Wentz. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot believe ESPN auto drafts me the
Speaker 1: two worst quarterbacks in a two quarterback league. I'm two
Speaker 1: and six. It's unbelievable. Um, but email us what you
Speaker 1: guys think our punishment should be? Jared and I or
Speaker 1: d M s. You can email us I Suck a
Speaker 1: Dating at iHeart media dot com, or simply follow us
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Help Underscore I Underscore suck Underscore at Underscore Dating.
Speaker 1: That's so harder to say that I expected it to be.
Speaker 1: D M is what you think the punishment should be? Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm projected to beat Jared, So make the
Speaker 1: punishment as projections mean nothing. Yeah, I agree, I agree,
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it. For this week's episode, Like
Speaker 1: I said, we're recording live from the Galapagos Islands here
Speaker 1: off the coast of Ecuador, so I'm sorry if our
Speaker 1: audio wasn't the best, and there has been a bit
Speaker 1: of a delay, so it's kind of why there might
Speaker 1: be some awkward pauses. But thank you so much for
Speaker 1: listening to this episode of Help I Suck at Dating.
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