WEBVTT - It Has a Nice Ring to It with Caelynn Miller-Keyes 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.640 Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler and Jared Haven 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:10.840 and I heard radio podcast What's going on Everyone, And 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.280 Welcome to an all new episode of Help I Suck 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.680 At Dating. I hope you guys listened to last week's 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.360 episode because that was the episode where I got the 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:26.000 chance to explain and give some more details about the 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.240 proposal that happened. I'm Annapollo host in Hawaii. UM. We 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.519 have a very special episode for you today because not 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.680 only are we recording live from the Galapagos Islands very 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:43.080 close towards Charles Darwin conducted much of his research, but 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.239 we have an incredibly special guest co host with us 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:53.040 this week, the podcast host herself new podcast, True Crime 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:59.000 Reality Right True Crime Reality Podcast with Eyeart Radio. Kaylan 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.120 Miller Keys is joining us this week. Thank you so 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.520 much for having me again. Thank you for letting us 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.080 have you again. I feel like last week was the 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.839 alternative fact version of the engagement, and this week we're 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.240 actually getting the truth of what has happened when Dean 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.319 got down on one knee after he dragged Klin through 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:28.319 an eleven mile hike near death experience just to get 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.640 a ring on her finger and not even the ring 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.600 he initially bought her, but one that he gave her 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.160 after he lost it, the actual ring. Yeah, that was 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.560 a good recap and exactly how I felt. I tried 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.160 so calin. Yeah, I'm gonna let you guys pretty much 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.760 like to. I have some questions, Amy, our producer has 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.760 some questions, but I want to hear from you guys first. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.000 So Dean, why don't you ask Klin your questions of 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.480 you know how it felt for her when this whole 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.280 journey began. Was I supposed to have questions prepared? Now 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.000 you guys are just talking. I feel like it's better 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.880 if you just talk rather than me insert my question. So, like, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.360 start from the beginning, Kalin, did you have any idea 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.960 that he was going to propose to you this weekend? Well? 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:09.200 I yeah, I do want to say. So, you guys 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.680 have already heard my story. So I'm just gonna hand 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.280 the microphone over to her and let her just go. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:18.399 And it's good. That's a rare thing. I originally thought 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.840 he was going to propose in Hawaii because we were 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.280 talking about when we were both proposing, and he was like, well, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.399 my dates aren't flexible, and I was like, oh, it's 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.120 got to be Hawaii. But then he lost the ring 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.520 and I was like, I guess he's not proposing. So 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.200 that really threw me for a loop. And all my 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.360 friends thought he was doing that to throw me off, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.520 but he didn't. He actually lost the ring, but he 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.880 did propose with a beautiful ring that I have on 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.680 my finger now that he won't let me show anyone. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.359 All that to say I did not know he was proposing. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.280 He definitely threw me off. Oh you just said you 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.480 didn't know that because you lost the ring, then I 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.600 thought you weren't proposing. I gotta say something. Let interject. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.400 I think she is being very nice by saying that 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.240 she had no idea that it was coming, because I 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.480 secretly think she had every like understanding that it was coming. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.560 She got her nails done the day before we left. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.519 I get my nails done every two weeks. I never 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.960 don't have my nails done. And I got them painted 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.080 dirt color. I specifically got them painted the color of 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.520 dirt because whenever I get my nails done and they 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.080 were camping, I get dirt in them. Why would I 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.960 paint my nails dirt colored if I knew I was 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.440 getting engaged. Why would you paint your nails their colored 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.280 at any moment in time. I like the color that 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.680 you have. Actually, by the way, um, oh what's here? Uh? 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.480 There was something else that you did that made me 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:49.120 suspicious of your knowledge. I can't remember what it is though. Uh, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.560 I'm not going to be able to remember thinking about 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.360 something else that you did. And I was like, that's 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:01.440 a little fishy. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to. I'm 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.080 trying to think. I'm trying to remember what it is, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.960 all right, anyway, So then back to Kaylin here. So 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.280 we got to Hawaii. We camped one night in Hawaii 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.000 on a public beach and Klin hated it. She didn't 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.680 feel safe. But at the end of the day we 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:20.000 were safe. Right, Yes, we were safe. But when you're camping, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.360 there's usually so many other people camping around you, and 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.000 I think a big mistake Dina and I made, um, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.679 at least for myself. We listened to this crime Junkies 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.600 podcast that was specifically about murders happening while people are 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.160 camping in national parks, which gave me anxiety. Uh, and 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.000 it still sticks with me. So at least, like when 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.120 you're camping there are other campers around, if something's going 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.719 to happen, like could happen to someone else, But we 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.160 were the only campers, the only people intents on this beach. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:49.960 So then I was like, if something happens, like, we're 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.159 the only target here. And that's what I thought about, 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.480 as cars are driving up and doing sketchy things at 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.400 two a m. That would be like watching Jaws as 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:05.440 you were walking into the ocean exactly here. Here's what 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.440 I gotta say about Kalin's logic based off the fact 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.000 that there were no campers around us. If you're driving 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.520 your car down the freeway, are you more likely to 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.160 get into an accident if there's a bunch of other 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.920 cars around or if you're the only car on the freeway. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.160 I'm just saying the possibility for friction is a lot 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.440 higher when there's a lot of people around, Like if 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.120 there's no one around us, I see where you're coming from, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.919 and I'm not trying to like diminish your feelings in 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.200 that sense. And it was a little sketchy because we 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.920 there was no marked campsites. I had never camped on 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.479 the beach in Hawaii before, so I don't really know 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.680 what I was doing um. But anyways, all this to 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.320 say is that the proposal trip got off to a 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.040 bit of a rocky start because hotels isn't quite are 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.320 expensive and we were going to start the hike early 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.560 the next day and we got in late that night, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:51.960 and so I was like, well, why don't I just 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.800 book this campsite for us for three dollars and then 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.200 I'll get us a nice hotel on the back side 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:03.120 of the trip after the proposal has already happened. So also, UM, 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.960 I think the mistake I make in camping or hiking. UM. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.200 For this, I started to google the campsite and people 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.000 were saying that it was dangerous and that they didn't 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.839 feel safe there. So then that added to my not 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.720 feeling safe. And also in that regard for the hike, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.599 I did no prior research, and I told Dean from 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.400 now on, for the rest of our lives, I will 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.040 not blindly agree to any hike. I'm going to research it. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.680 Because I started to research a week before we left, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.080 and it's one of the most dangerous hikes in America. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.080 I had no idea, and I probably wouldn't agree if 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.440 I agreed if I knew that. So I think my 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.760 downfall is Google in any of these situations with team 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:45.080 or it's Europe just because it's the most dangerous, because yeah, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.000 you know, I don't think you researching a very dangerous 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.760 one of the most dangerous hikes in the world would 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.640 be considered your downfall. I would consider that your upfall. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.280 Just because it's the most dangerous hike, and I'm eric 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.120 cut doesn't make it dangerous though, you know what I mean, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:05.800 It's still at the end of the day, it's still 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.280 a hike, and a hike just requires you to put 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:09.840 one ft in front of the other until you end 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.840 up at the camp site. I'm not saying it was easy, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 but I'm saying like, just because it's the most of 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.160 something doesn't necessarily make it a bad thing. You know 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.680 that makes sense. That was pretty eloquent. I would say, um, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:23.800 And in fact, okay, I'll hand it back to Kaylin. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.680 So do you want to talk about the hike a 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.600 little bit. Yeah, So the hike began, and also the 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.840 day before we left, we flew to Bozeman to see 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.920 Dean's brother and pick up some camera equipment, and Dean's 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.440 brother told me, like, it's pretty sketchy, it's pretty scary, 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.960 and and his brother is so good at hiking rock climbing, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.960 like he's pretty fearless in my eyes. So for him 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.560 to say it's a little scary for him, to say 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.480 it's really difficult or a little difficult, but a little 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.720 difficult for him, is like super difficult for me. And 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.600 another thing he said was one mile feels a lot 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.840 longer than one mile. And I'm really glad he said 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.320 that because that helped me through the hike, because it's true. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.760 One mile we started and I was like we had 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.240 to have gone like five miles. We had gone maybe 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.200 one and a half miles, maybe two, And that's how 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.320 the whole hike felt. It was so long, it was 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.559 so difficult. It was like one of the worst hikes 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.760 I've ever done in my life. Um So, I was like, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.000 in my head, I was telling myself we should get 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.440 to the end camp site, which is eleven miles, but 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.280 I knew that we had a backup which was six 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.000 miles in, and once we were only two miles in, 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.720 I was like, there's no chance that I could possibly 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.680 make it eleven miles when these miles just feel so long, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.600 and mismarked, um so thankfully We camped at the six 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.920 Mile camp site and that was nice. We met a 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.920 friend there who lives there and what's his name, Don 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:50.880 rich Um, And yeah, it was nice. We eat mashed potatoes. Dean. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.800 I don't mind dehydrated meals, but Dean didn't want to 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.040 do that, and I don't know if that was part 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.280 of the romance. Aspect was I was trying to make 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.280 us eat good, healthy, real meals, and he did a 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.280 really good job. Like the meals are great. We weren't 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.559 eating um hydrated our freeze, dried pat tie. It was 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.880 really good. It was good. Granted, those meals are delicious, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.839 but they just messed with your stomach so much. We 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:19.000 hiked in vegetables. I cut up onions, potatoes, carrots, pepper, sausage, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.440 and oh gosh, I'm just so great, aren't Do you 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.959 have any more questions? Um? Well, it's funny that you 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.920 say all these things, and I'm not saying they're not true, 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.400 but I do want to point out that every time 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.120 I go on a big hike or a big adventure, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.840 Caitlin is like, are you excited? And I always say, no, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.080 I'm not excited. I'm going to be miserable. For the 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.200 next However, many days I'm going to be hiking and 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.160 I'm gonna be exhausted and I'm just gonna suck. Blah 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.719 blah blah. And that's exactly what I told her when 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.800 we were hiking into Poli. As we were starting, she 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.280 was like, are you excited? I was like, no, this 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:58.160 is gonna suck. And she agreed it sucked. But what 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.079 the only reason that it's fun to do these things 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:07.880 and um, and what Kalin can attest to is after 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.959 the fact, we look back at it with such fond 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.800 memories of the experience. It's hard to look back on 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.320 the experience engagement aside. If we didn't get engaged on 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.600 the trip, we would still look back and be like, Wow, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:24.120 that was an awesome trip. Do you disagree? You agree? 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.800 So she agrees, and that's that's the case with all 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.439 that stuff. So although it was kind of miserable in 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.280 the moment looking back, proposal or not, it was still 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.439 a very magical experience. I do agree with what you're saying. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.679 But also, Dean is a is it type one or 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.560 type two fun m Dean's a type two fun guy 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.440 where he doesn't enjoyed in the moment, but he enjoys 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.040 it after. In the story that he gets to tell 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.720 I'm a type one fun person. I like to have 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.920 fun in the moment and enjoy every aspect of the 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.120 fun I'm having. Um So for him it's it's more fun. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.000 It was fun for me, but more enjoyable for him. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.600 The only reason it's more enjoyable for someone like me 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.319 and like this. The only reason something like this is 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.640 more enjoyable for someone like me is because I've done 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.120 it more often and I'm more capable of doing it. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.360 So it's like I suffer less during it, and I 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.280 still get to feel as much joy after the fact, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.320 like you did a great job. I want to give 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:22.880 Kilin all the credit in the world, because that was 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:27.160 a hard hike. Twenty two miles on the Napoly Coast 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.440 is very challenging, and Klin was an absolute beast. We 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.080 got to the beach and I proposed, and then the 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.080 next day we were trying to navigate how Calin was 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.480 going to get off the beach and we could have 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.199 gotten an emergency helicopter would it costs a thousand dollars? 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.520 And then calind how to go to the hospital with 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.319 an injury quote unquote, and she was like, no, I 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.360 don't want to do that. It's embarrassing. And I was like, okay, well, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.200 then the only other option is for you to hike out. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.559 And she was so anti hiking out, but then the 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.000 second we started hiking out, she was faster, stronger, braver 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.840 than I've ever seen her in my entire life. And 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.480 she crushed the hike out in spades, and it was 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.360 very impressive. You're welcome, and you would you agree, like 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.400 it's so we did have a SUPERI hike which is 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.959 ten miles and ten miles out, and on that hike 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.760 it's a lot more easy to get a helicopter out, 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.920 so Calin flew out of that one. And I think 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.480 that one is a little different because you actually were 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.480 like in more pain on that one. But if you 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.280 don't have an option of like just getting a free 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.400 ride out, you were very capable and you crushed the 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:32.120 hike out. It was very impressive, you know, as Dean 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.520 can attest to sometimes, as guys, we just have horrible thoughts, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.319 you know, like just like things that enter our brain. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.440 And I have moments from like I can't believe I 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.880 thought that how horrible human, I am, and I gotta 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.160 be honest. When hearing this story, there's something in my 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.120 head that goes, I think Dean went on this trip 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:59.440 to die because here's something. Well, I'm because, so Dean 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.720 has always said he never wanted to propose. Obviously, I'm joking. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.319 Let me preface that before we get hate. He wanted 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.160 to propose, But like, in the back of my head, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.480 I'm like, wait a minute, so telling me that Dean 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.480 has always said he's never wanted to propose. Never, So 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.559 here he is in a moment where he has to propose. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.240 He doesn't want to. So I mean he wants to obviously, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.280 but now I'm just like creating this story in my head. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.920 Then he goes on this He picks the most dangerous hike, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.040 hoping that you guys just fall off like Romeo and 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.640 Juliet and died died together. Before he has to propose, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.040 he creates all these wonderful meals. One could say maybe 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.160 it was his last meals and he wanted to make 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:40.120 sure that they were as delicious as possible. He picks 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.880 the worst possible and then finally gets this extraordinary beach 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.199 and was like, all right, well we survived so now 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:52.760 I have to propose, right, It's like passing through the gauntlet. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:54.800 Once you get to the other side of the gauntlet, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.920 you know that whatever you had planned to do at 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.120 the end has to happen now because you've you've completed 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.000 all of the trials in front of you and now 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.400 here you are. It is funny too. I think I 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.760 talked about this on last week's episode. How we we 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.480 talked about last week on the episode. I think about 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.800 how Caitlin and I wanted to propose to each other 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.680 and she's now it was me a proposal, thank you 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.560 very much. I'm waiting, and how I was thinking about 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.000 if I should give her the proposal that she would 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.720 deem as her perfect proposal, or should I do it 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.360 this way, which is kind of more my thing, you know, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.880 like instead of going to the Italian countryside and proposing 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.280 out there, which sounds pretty lovely, Don't get me wrong, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.200 I was kind of doing it my own way, and 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.960 so now I'm excited to see how she does it 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.280 because I imagine she's going to do it her own way. Well, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.080 that's the thing. I had it planned like perfectly for 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.920 him originally, and now my plans are shifting because I'm like, 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:59.200 if this was all about him and what he likes, yeah, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.600 you proposal the year was all about no, no, no, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.080 all the things that you enjoy. I was like, well, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.120 maybe I should do a proposal of the things that 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.200 I enjoy. So I'm not sure I did enjoy it 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.720 and you'll still enjoy a proposal for you, Absolutely I will, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.560 but it maybe won't be as adventures as I was 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:21.400 originally thinking it would be. Can I hear what your 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.440 original please? It could still happen. I just want to 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.160 hear it. But if you say it out loud then 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.400 you can Maybe then you can put it to bed 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.240 and you can do the other idea that you have. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.600 I can tell you the one that I was the 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.520 first thought in my mind before I realized it would 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.480 have been like fourteen dollars. I was going to have 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.240 propose to you on a zero gravity flight. I know, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.880 but it's fourteen dollars. So and if the price keeps 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.760 going up, it goes up a thousand dollars every year, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.840 So that's not happening. I thought it was like thirty dollars. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.760 For that it's like or maybe it's now sixteen. I 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.000 think it's eight per person. Oh really, it's actually not 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.640 as bad as I thought, because I know Nick did 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.280 that on his season of The Bachelor with Vanessa, and 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.320 I was talking to one of the executive producers of 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.880 The Bachelor. I can't remember when, and I was like, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.000 I can't, I don't know, I don't I don't think 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.040 I was angry, but I was like, you guys took 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.240 Nick on the zero gravity flight, Like, what do I 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:19.800 have to do to get on that flight? Next time? 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.400 I want to go on that date. I don't care 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.240 who it's with. I don't care what happens. I want 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.160 to be on a zero gravity airplane. Um. So that 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.520 would have been a nice proposal. But since we started dating, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.600 you have talked about that. It's three and a half 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.480 years and so I thought that would be the perfect 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.880 proposal for you, But unfortunately I don't have that kind 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.080 of money. It's just it's pretty cool to think about. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.320 You would literally be one of maybe, like a thought, well, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.000 they probably do them a lot nowadays, one of a 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.720 few thousand people in the history of human existence to 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.440 experience zero gravity. That's pretty sweet. That's worth the price tag, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.280 in my opinion, I accept. I'll marry you let's go 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.520 on his zero gravity flight. Kalen, did you when did 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.520 you finally start believing that Dean would propose to you? 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.280 I can't imagine when you first started dating Dean that 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.120 he you thought going to the relationship that this could 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.240 potentially end in marriage, because if everything that Dean was 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:09.879 doing at the time of his life living in a 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.720 van didn't know if he wanted to get married, kind 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.280 of settled down. So when did you finally realize I 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.560 think he is down for proposing to me and getting married. 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.280 I don't know what the moment was, but I do agree. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.920 I think we both went into this relationship not expecting 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:30.040 it to last long um like nevertheless end in marriage. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:35.320 But I think we just had so many conversations and 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.760 like talked about I don't know if it was like 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.919 year one or year two, and we were like, okay, 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.159 this is we're like into this relationship. I don't know 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:48.879 if you know, and it was, but I think we 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.440 just had so many conversations that eventually we were like, oh, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.479 we could do this. But I don't know like what 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.160 moment it was. I think it was just early on 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.159 I put the ring on, we got a cellphone plan, together, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.959 we joined our bank accounts together, we got a dog together, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.360 we bought a house together. That's true. We did all 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.600 the steps that married people do. So I think we 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.000 already felt married, and then we had a lot of 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.240 conversations on like should we should we not? And Dean 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.720 didn't want to and then warmed up to the idea. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.960 For me, it's just like I had already made the 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.680 decision that I was going to spend my life with you, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.000 So it's like, fine, if you want to get married, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.440 let's just get married. But then people turn that into 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.840 a headline. Fine, let's get married. You're excited to get married. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:33.760 I'm excited spen the rest of my life with you. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.560 Marriage doesn't excite me as much as that. That's fair, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:52.239 That's right. Yeah, So I know. We also have some 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.679 questions from our producer Amy uh that I wanted to 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.560 invite on here. She prerecorded them. So let's hear our 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.119 first question from our producer Amy Sugarman, who without this 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.719 podcast would not be possible, So thank you Amy. She 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.639 has some questions for you guys. Amy, what's your first question? 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.600 If Calyn wants all your passwords and pass codes, will 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.280 you be okay with that it sounds like this question 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.920 is directed to me. Calin already has all my pass 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.639 codes to everything, and I have hers to everything as well, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.240 and the pass codes are I'm just kidding. I'm not 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.879 going to share the pass codes, but yeah, it's pretty 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.560 we have each have like three variations of the same 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:38.359 pass code. I probably shouldn't have said that, but but 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.120 we know we know each other's passwords to everything. So 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.199 and that kind of started early on too, maybe like 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.600 you're one in our relationship, we've always just had trust, 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.760 which has been nice and like transparency. Yeah, that's true. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.359 I think it happened day one for me. I didn't 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.720 give a crap, but we started sharing our location our 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.879 first like two weeks into dating. Yeah right, Yeah, I 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.639 guess I'm just saying I've never I've never had anything 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.000 to hide and either of you. So it's very early 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.880 on that we just did that, which is nice. Dean. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.440 Once you have children, if Kaylin decides she doesn't want 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.920 you jumping out of airplanes and doing dangerous things, are 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.560 you willing to stop for the sake of the family. Hmm, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.360 I guess this one is directed to me again as well. Um, 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:33.520 what I stopped for the sake of family. Oh crap, sorry, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.800 we're having some audio issues here. I'm just gonna put 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.200 this down. Um, what I stopped for the sake of family? Hell? No, 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.040 I'm gonna do whatever I want, whenever I want, and 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:49.240 no one's gonna stop me. Um, I don't know. I'm 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.959 just gonna answer, and not for you. But but Dean's 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.879 brother now has a child, and Dean and him went 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.000 on a hike, and Dean chose the option to do 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.119 like the more dangerous for vision of the hike, and Brad, 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.919 his brother, because now he's a dad, opted for the 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.640 safer version of the hike. And I can see Dean 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.240 maybe being similar, Like he's still going to do the 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.520