1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: My name is Matt. Our compatriot role is on adventures. 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: They called me Ben. We are joined as always with 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: our super producer, all mission controlled decads. Most importantly, you 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this stuff 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. It's that time of 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the week where Matt and I like to put our 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: money where our mics are and here from the best 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: part of this show, which is you, specifically you, and 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: we have I think we mentioned this in an earlier 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: episode or an earlier listener may a segment. We have 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: done it, Paul, Can we get some kind of sound 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: effect of just like riotous applause, music, trumpets, trus There 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: it is, yes, yes, air horns, maybe a gunshot, Okay, 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm over doing that. There it is perfect. That perfect. 19 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: We're celebrating because because we we got together and you know, 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: we've talked for a while in the past about how 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: we were somewhat overwhelmed by all the amazing calls we 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: get specifically, UH. And we have a system that Matt 23 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: created two go through every one of your calls, hopefully 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: before the like our system expires them and then log 25 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: them and figure out how how to respond, figure out 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: what trends are there, things like that. So we institute. 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: We did something we should have called operations scorchmail, but 28 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: we scorched voicemail whatever we called it. Uh. And we 29 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: are pretty much up to date, which means we have 30 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of calls that we have heard from you, specifically 31 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: you and today, Matt, I was thinking that you and 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I could uh take a couple of these around the block. Unfortunately, 33 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: we can't yet do an episode that's in blocks of 34 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: a hundred voicemails. I think we'll see what you guys think, 35 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: but I don't know. So right now, we're still keeping 36 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: it to a to a three act structure. However, we've 37 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: got a uh something a little different. We're trying at 38 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the end that we hope you enjoy and let us 39 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: know if it works for you. Because we're always always 40 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: work in progress here on stuff. They don't want you 41 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: to know, uh, Matt, you and I talk briefly about 42 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: this first voicemail, uh that I can't wait to get 43 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: your take on this, because this is something it's unbelievable 44 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: that we haven't talked about this yet. All right, well 45 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: let's play it. My name's Ernest. I am a big 46 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: fan of the show. New listener, but still a big fan. 47 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: And there's a giant pool of mercury that was found. 48 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: I forget where it was on an Ancient Aliens ones, 49 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: but they found a giant pool of mercury, and they 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: were talking about how super conductors, if they're kept cold 51 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: enough and actually hover on mercury. It's crazy. I don't 52 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: know if you guys have heard about this. Uh, there's 53 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: like theories and such about how that's how the Pyramids 54 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: were built and all that unexplainable phominans from our five 55 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: thousand years ago. It'd be great to have you guys 56 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: do a spot about it because I don't really know 57 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: much about it and I can't really find a lot 58 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: of information on it. Thanks, have a great day. Nice 59 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ernest, and welcome aboard man. Thanks for checking 60 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: out the show. Yeah, okay, so first of all, we're 61 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: talking about ancient Aliens. Now, anyone who's been listening this 62 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: show for a long time. You know, we love us 63 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: some ancient aliens, but you take those with the meteor 64 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: sized crane of salt. But there's still stuff in there 65 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: that is fascinating and that is worth looking into. And 66 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is one I had never heard of. Been. Yeah, 67 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: it's one of those. Uh. So long time listeners know 68 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: that Matt and I were definitely kind of bookworms, were 69 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: always reading about things like the I still have my 70 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: entire collection of the Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown set. Uh. 71 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, I wouldn't shut up about it. Uh. 72 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: And this is something that I placed squarely in the 73 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: world of stuff they don't want you to know. If 74 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: any of this is true, then this could be hidden history. 75 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: So earnest, what we'd like to do is reply to 76 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: what I see as three points in in your wonderful message. Uh, 77 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and then we'll take them one by one. So first, 78 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: maybe the smallest point to get out of the way. Yes, 79 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: at temperatures below about four degrees kelvin, mercury does become 80 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: a superconductor. The next question is how cold is four 81 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: degrees kelvin in fahrenheit? Four degrees kelvin is equal to 82 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: negative four hundred and fifty two point four seven degrees 83 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: fahrenheit or negative two hundred sixty nine point one five 84 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: degrees celsius for the rest of the world. So this 85 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: this is quite a burden, right. If you want to 86 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: create a superconductor with mercury, the first thing you have 87 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: to do is figure out how to it it's that coal. Yeah, 88 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: More importantly, how to keep it that cold long enough 89 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: for it to do what you wanted to do. And frankly, 90 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: from everything we understand about ancient uses of mercury and 91 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: probably didn't have the technology to do this on a reliable, 92 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: reproducible scale. Next point, earnest. Yes, liquid mercury has been 93 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: found in ancient sites. It's been found in ancient tombs. 94 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: There was liquid mercury found under pyramid in Mexico. There's 95 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: a great story about that from the Guardian. And this 96 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the mercury they found so liquid form. Of course, it's 97 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: at the end of a tunnel beneath this Mexican pyramid 98 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: known as the Pyramid of the Feathered Serpent. This is 99 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: in uh Tatwak and this city in the ruins of 100 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: the city and sent troll Mexico and the folks who 101 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: found this, you know, they're legit archaeologists. They're not They're 102 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: not just trying to get news stories because they're publishing 103 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: a book or something like that. This is their work, 104 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: this is their job, These are their careers. UM mercury 105 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: is is weird because, as far as the experts know, 106 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: in the case of meso America, UH, mercury didn't have 107 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: in a readily apparent practical purpose. But it has been 108 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: discovered at other sites. So because it's been found at 109 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: other ancient sites in this part of the world, it 110 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: leads us to believe, or to reasonably assume that mercury 111 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: at least served a symbolic purpose. Of course, there's always 112 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the possibility that it served some practical purpose that we 113 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: in don't understand. It could have been courting one guy, 114 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Dr Gomez, Sir Geoe Gomez. It could have been symbolic 115 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: of an underworld river or lake. I don't know, what 116 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: do you think about all this so far? Mat Well, 117 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the first thing I think is eight what is it, 118 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: one hundred years ago roughly or something like that, when 119 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: when these folks were entombed, or at least this one 120 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: into t Wakan how did they get the mercury there? 121 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: How do they get a pool of mercury? And how 122 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: badly poisoned was that person or persons that moved all 123 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: that mercury. Um. No, I totally see what you're saying, 124 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make much sense if you are imagining 125 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: yourself in our current understanding of what life was like 126 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: for humans in that time, what would you use mercury 127 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: for outside of, like you said, some kind of symbolic purpose. Um. 128 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: And in the big question here, and the one that 129 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: Ernest puts forth is well, maybe there's a different purpose 130 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: there was practical that has something to do with maybe 131 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: a technology we just didn't know about or don't. Yeah, 132 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: see this is the thing. Okay, there's another thing you 133 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: need to know about this too, Earnest. Uh, there's other 134 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: stuff that has yet to be explained in in different 135 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: parts of this complex, in archaeologists were using a robot 136 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: How cool is that too explore an unexcavated portion of 137 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: a tunnel, and there they found these metallic spheres that 138 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: they called disco balls near some pye rite mirrors. Uh, 139 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: they call them because why not? They called them disco 140 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: balls because it's unique, you know, what to make of it, 141 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: so it was up to them. It's kind of like 142 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: when you're a if you're a biologist. You know, biologists 143 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: and days of old might discover an animal or organism 144 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: they completely didn't understand, and they would just sort of 145 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: name it after something they were familiar with, or name 146 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: it after a mentor or a teacher that inspired them, 147 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: or of course, because they're humans, they would name it 148 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: after themselves. So they would be like, and I don't 149 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: think now, I think you would ever do this. We'll 150 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: pick on Paul today. They would be like, I'm naming 151 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: this Paul's Kimoto. This is Paul's lizard. Everybody call it that, 152 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, people would run with it. So 153 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe in the future these things will just continually 154 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: be referred to as disco balls. So the point is 155 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: there's weird stuff here, more so than just the liquid 156 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: mercury that's yet to be explained. We know that Mesoamerican 157 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: societies could produce liquid mercury, and we know how they 158 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: did it. They took cinnabar mercury, or they use cinnabar 159 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: to create the red pigment that was used in the 160 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: society for decorating royalty and jade objects and artifacts. So 161 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: in the process of heating this or they could make 162 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: liquid mercury. So this is this is something that's known. However, 163 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: if someone says, okay, the ancient alien folks are taking 164 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: one weird too, the Mesoamerica, and they're just they're stretching 165 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: it to make an episode. There's another part of the world, 166 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: ancient China, where there's also mercury. The first emperor of China, 167 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: chin Chi hong U, died in to ten b c. 168 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: He created the first unified nation from China and in 169 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: central China. His tomb is surrounded it's like buried in 170 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: this hill and it's surrounded by this moat of mercury. Yes, 171 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: so they did it too. That brings us to other things. 172 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: So that did they independently these civilizations, Did they independently 173 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: decide the mercury was the jam for prominent dead people 174 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and their civilization or did they find some kind of 175 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: efficacy there that we don't understand? You know? Maybe the 176 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: most one of the more out their ideas is were 177 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: they in contact somehow that has yet to be documented. 178 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: And did someone in ancient China, which predated what this 179 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: meso American too. Did they somehow traverse the Pacific and say, 180 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: among other things, Hey, you know what's cool putting mercury 181 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: in the tombs of your prominent cadap man. You know, 182 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: we talked about this all the time in just our 183 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: thinking and just all of us are thinking has to 184 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: be measured a lot and refined when we just from 185 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: our even our history classes, stuff that's in textbooks when 186 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: you're growing up and going to primary school and stuff 187 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: like that, just how we have to reshape our brains 188 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of what we're thinking about societies that 189 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: have come before us to make sure we're not, you know, 190 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: on some high horse. No matter where you're from, or 191 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: what you look like, or where you come from, just 192 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: make sure you're not looking down on on on people 193 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: and cultures. And I I have to say, I'm flummixed 194 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: when it comes to this mercury. But unless it really 195 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: is just what you're saying, because I can totally see 196 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the reflective nature of it, the strange I mean, mercury. 197 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: If you look at mercury right now, it's weird. It 198 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: doesn't yeah, it's so cool. It doesn't seem real, it 199 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: doesn't seem right, any any liquefied metal just feels very strange, 200 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: especially one that's at room temperature or just you know, 201 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: sitting on the ground or in a cup or something 202 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: and still looks like that it seems to be imbued 203 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: with special properties because in a way it kind of 204 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: is very much. So. Yeah, and that's that's an excellent observation. 205 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, for anybody. You and I have talked about 206 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: this before, when we looked into things like megaliths, or 207 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: we looked into stone circles, these ancient feats of amazing engineering. Um, 208 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: the past is really a conversation. The past is a 209 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: series of evolving questions that were ultimately asking of ourselves 210 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: and our predecessors. And whenever somebody gets on a high 211 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: horse about people of years and millennia gone by myself included, 212 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: we always have to remind ourselves. If you traveled back 213 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: in time to the time of the people you're ducting on, 214 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: the odds are overwhelming that you would be kind of useless. 215 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Like that we would be kind of useless. We wouldn't. 216 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we might have a leg up on certain diseases, 217 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: we might have an understanding of certain things, but like, 218 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: could you build a solar panel. Could you build his television? 219 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Could you build a car or a gun? For most people, 220 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: probably not? Uh? And then think of all the things 221 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: that the average person nowadays can't do that the average 222 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: person back then probably could. Like can you grow and 223 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: maintain a crop and see it through for a year 224 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: such that you can feed yourself if you say crops 225 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: are boring? Well? Can you hunt? Can you make the 226 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: tools you need to hunt? Let's stop dunking on these people. 227 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: That's their different varied knowledge sense. And I know there 228 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: are select few of you out there who can do 229 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: this with without even question, without even thinking about it. 230 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: But can you effectively start a fire from nothing? That 231 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: is so much more difficult than it sounds. Uh? Well, 232 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: unless unless you get trained or you're an eagle scout Ben, 233 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: or you know, you've just watched a couple of YouTube 234 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: videos which you can do and teach yourself. But it 235 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: is still difficult even if you know how to do it. 236 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and this is just my opinion. 237 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Some people may disagreement. Lighting a fire the like old fashioned. 238 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: I just went out in the woods and found the 239 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: stuff to make a fire. Lighting a fire it sucks 240 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: really just just get some flints with you, just carry 241 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: a lighter and don't mess it up. It's just like 242 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: her waterproof matches. That's fine too. It's just like the 243 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: bow and the stick method. It's just yeah, I get 244 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: a tinder box. Yeah, this will sound weird out of context, 245 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: but we love fires. Here's stuff they don't want you 246 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: to know. It's an important piece of human technology. Well 247 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: it's not really human technology. It's just something in the 248 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: natural world that we've managed to work with but never 249 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: quite domesticate or tame. Uh. The mercury thing, right, so 250 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: we know, we know there's a mystery of foot. It's 251 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: happening in what current understanding tells us is to u 252 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: two different cultures. Minimum, they're probably more two different cultures 253 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: divided by geographic space and divided by linear time. We're 254 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: doing relatively similar things with mercury. We do know a 255 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: little bit more, like archaeologists haven't even agreed on the 256 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: proper name of the mes American Society that we just mentioned, 257 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: but we do know a little bit more about this 258 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: time in ancient China because we have documents from that time, 259 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: actual physical writing from this time. And the story is 260 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: that at the time, ancient Chinese thought said that mercury 261 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: could bestow immortality. So the emperor was taking mercury pills 262 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: to help elongate his lifespan, and that probably killed him 263 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: by the age of thirty nine. I'm pretty pretty comparatively 264 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: young for the modern era. Wow, so they thought it 265 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: was medicinal and uh, that belief would prove to be incorrect. 266 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to spend our whole time on this, 267 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: but I do want to set up something that will 268 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: be our a full episode in the future. Earnest, I 269 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: hope you tune in the third point you made that. Really, 270 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't know about you. Mad stuck with me? Could 271 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: this be used to levitate things? Was this in some 272 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: way powering something? So what's interesting about this is that 273 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: there is something called vimana. Uh these mythological flying chariots 274 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: or palaces that are described, um, they are described in 275 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: ancient Sanskrit and Hindu text as though they are real. 276 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: They're like they're described it's not like, let me tell 277 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: you a fun story kind of thing. They're they're described 278 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: as though they are actual vehicles or cars or chariots 279 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: of the gods. And they don't want to spoil too 280 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: much of that at this point, but Earnest, it's on 281 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: our minds as well, and we would like to make 282 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: this a future episode. So thank you for calling. I 283 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: hope that it's interesting to to learn that we can 284 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: confirm at least two of the three things you mentioned. 285 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Mercury is a superconductor at a very low temperature. It 286 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: has yet to be explained why ancient civilizations that seem 287 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: to have never met would treat it with the same 288 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: sort of or holding in the same high regard. And 289 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and if you want to watch that Ancient Aliens episode 290 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: that Ernest mentioned, it is at least according to this 291 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: website that I'm looking at season eleven, episode four, and 292 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: it's called the Mercury Connection. And we've returned Matt's I 293 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: can't be the only person who is having this weird vibe. 294 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I hated this weird vibe that I've been feeling all pandemic, 295 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: Like you go somewhere at the grocery store, you have 296 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: to go out and then someone coughs yeah, and the 297 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: and the energy and the room changes because the question 298 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: the big badger in the bag is is this a 299 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: common cold or is this COVID? Hi? Guys, look here, 300 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: I'm calling that a George. I was definitely like you 301 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: guys to do this on air. I would love to 302 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: know what to think about it. I know we've talked 303 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot. You guys talked a lot about COVID lay 304 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: thing or every guy has done a couple of episodes 305 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: on it, and uh talked about you know, maybe it's 306 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: being a conspiracy. I also have a theory of my own. 307 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: I believe that it is a conspiracy very much as well. 308 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: And I believe that COVID is nothing more than the 309 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: common flute maybe just another strand of it. And the 310 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: social media and the news. I believe it's just emploiting 311 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, all this information about it as far as 312 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: death hole and you know, hospitalization and everything like this. 313 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: So what I find really interested is on really any 314 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: local news social media. I've not seen really anything about 315 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: flu death this year and the death hold on the 316 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: common flu. I found that very odd. Uh. I just 317 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to tell what you guys maybe falling about 318 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: death you don't mind? Yeah, thank you guys, got it 319 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: all right. Luke from Georgia, it's nice to hear from 320 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: a Georgia boy. Um, So this is ah, this is 321 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: a bit of a tough one, Luke, but it's I 322 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: have to say something that personally has been on my 323 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: mind thinking about influenza and you know, the coronavirus and 324 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: just since the end of twenty nineteen, really what what's 325 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: what's been happening as far as the flu and deaths 326 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: that are associated with it, Because you know, if you 327 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: listen to the news, you look at the statistics, you 328 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: know that a lot of people worldwide get very very 329 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: sick from common influenza whatever is most common that season, 330 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: and many die. Um, and let's just talk about that. 331 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a couple of different things 332 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: that we have found and also what we've been hearing. 333 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: So the first thing I want to point to is 334 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: the CDC and their numbers that they have on their 335 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: website see d C dot gov. When it comes to 336 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: influenza by season in the United States, there is there's 337 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: a it's not really an article, there's a page you 338 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: can find. It's called Past Seasons Estimated Influenza Disease Burden 339 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and on here you will find a grid. It it 340 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: tells you the number of symptomatic illnesses, the number of 341 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: medical visits, number of hospitalizations and deaths associated with that 342 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: with that year's flu season. It goes from two thousand ten, 343 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: like two thousand ten to two thousand eleven, all the 344 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: way down through the years to nine. Now, if you 345 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: just look at the numbers and you scroll over to deaths, 346 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: it shows that from two thousand ten to two thousand eleven, 347 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: there were an estimated thirty seven thousand deaths associated with 348 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: influenza in the United States in the in that year. 349 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: And it also shows you that there's a separate set 350 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: of numbers just to the right of that that shows 351 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand to fifty one thousand. Now that means 352 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: that this number thirty seven thousand is actually just kind 353 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: of an average within a range essentially of estimates to 354 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: how many people likely died of influenza. And it shows 355 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: you that throughout the years it's generally staying, you know, 356 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: in the thirty thousands, forty thousands. Sometimes it gets up 357 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: to as much as sixty one thousand. That was in 358 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: the year seventeen to eighteen. That's the estimated number of 359 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: influenza US. But then in two thousand eleven to two twelve, 360 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: it goes as low to as low as twelve thousand 361 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: estimated deaths. So you're really looking at a wide range 362 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: here of numbers that are estimated. And the important thing 363 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: to note here are the most important thing at least 364 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: is that these are estimations. And we know this because 365 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of reporting on this very question 366 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: that you're asking, like what what is what's up with 367 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: the influenza of like who who got the flu? And 368 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: how bad was it? Did anyone actually die from it? 369 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: There's an article that was written in Scientific American. It's 370 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: called comparing COVID nineteen deaths to flu deaths is like 371 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: comparing apples to oranges. It's an opinion piece. Granted, it 372 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 1: was written by Jeremy Samuel Faust was on April, so 373 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: this is pretty early in, you know, the quarantining and 374 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: coronavirus epidemic. But it's somebody who was early who early 375 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: on was looking at this question. And one of the 376 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: major things that Jeremy points out in this op ed 377 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: is that it's very difficult for doctors and experts with 378 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: the CDC and other health experts who are looking at 379 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: things like this to estimate the number of influenza deaths 380 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: in any year and that's because, just like with COVID nineteen, 381 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: as we discussed in our previous episodes, it's tough to 382 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: know whether someone has passed away due to influenza or 383 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: due to COVID nineteen and the coronavirus, or if it 384 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: was something else completely unrelated they just happened to have 385 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: the virus. Um there, there are also a lot of 386 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: deaths that go unreported, especially in elderly communities, where it's 387 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: unknown if you know, this is actually something that caused 388 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: the death or was some other unrelated thing. Um. There's 389 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: just a lot of questions there, And the biggest question 390 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: for me is that I've been unable to find an 391 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: exact answer to is why why are influenza numbers or 392 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: why do they seem to be so low this year 393 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: compared to other years when there are so many COVID 394 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: nineteen infections. And the best answer that I've gotten so 395 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: far is that the measures that all of us have 396 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: been taking to prevent the spread of coronavirus have also 397 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: hugely decrease the number of influenza spreader events essentially, or 398 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: the number of transmissions from person to person. That that 399 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: makes sense to me, right, that probably makes sense to you. 400 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: But that's the best answer that I've gotten thus far. Yeah, 401 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: there are there are a couple of other things we 402 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: could add to this. Uh. First off, I love the 403 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: point about estimates. Estimates always have a margin of error 404 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: on some part. And then add to this, there is 405 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: one phrase used Matt that I want to drive everyone's 406 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: attention to, which is associated with associated with influenza, associated 407 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: with COVID. So not everyone who dies of the flu 408 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: necessarily dies of of the actual infection of the flu. 409 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: Nor is this the actual infection of COVID that always 410 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: kills people. There can be co morbid conditions, right, we 411 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: know that. Um, we know that, for instance, maybe obesity 412 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: or existing pneumonia can play a huge role in these 413 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: sorts of things. So what what we're really saying here, Luke, 414 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: is that at this point, yeah, I would agree with it. 415 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I would agree with Matt. While the science shows us 416 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: so far that these are distinct infections, there are related 417 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: enough that some of the countermeasures people have taken against 418 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: COVID also function as countermeasures against flu. Right, You're you're 419 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: reducing transmission risks through saliva or aerosol, and you're also 420 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: not in close contact with a bunch of people, which 421 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: is great for me, but I understand not everybody's bag 422 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: of badgers. The thing though, is we have to understand now, 423 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: regardless what anybody's beliefs opinions are, or even regardless of 424 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: what the latest research is, we're still laboring under a 425 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: fog of uncertainty. There are people working around the clock 426 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: to understand more of stuff like this. UM we have 427 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, we looked into you might I find this interesting. 428 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: We looked into this work of fiction a while back 429 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: that was considered to be extraordinarily prescient. It was about 430 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: a virus that started in China that was named UH 431 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: something like covid. And then we later found that that 432 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: look had been um revised and edited to be more 433 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: relevant in the current day. That's another thing I would 434 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: be aware of the past can be changed, and changing 435 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: the past is a little bit more difficult nowadays, but 436 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: not as difficult as you think. Uh. We know that 437 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: if you if you want to look further down the line, 438 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: the dystopian timeline of these infections, then consider this, uh 439 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen was not the first of its type. Okay, 440 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: we're talking like if you if you like cars, folks, 441 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: think about this um anybody. Anybody will obviously say that 442 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the newest Cadillac, one Cadillac, is a world away from 443 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: the first iteration of Cadillacs. Let me flex just a second, 444 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: because the first one was badass. The first Cadillacs are 445 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: like more than a century old, you know, at this point, 446 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: they're very different, but they're still Cadillacs. So there are 447 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: things like Mergs that existed before that broke out. There 448 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: are other things other original stars, the original stars, right, 449 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: original recipes ares, we can call it. And then flu 450 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: variants are like this as well. That's why Stephen King's 451 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: post apocalyptic novel The Stand is about a flu infection. 452 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Experts will tell you one of the most depressing similarities 453 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: between COVID nineteen and influenza is that they're uh, they're punchy, 454 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. On a biological level, these 455 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: guys are nimble and they are quick to mutate. So 456 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: we know that from multiple factors, we know that some 457 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: other pandemic would be on the way. I've I've even 458 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: read people saying this is some sort of training, training 459 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: initiative to get people, uh to to normalize the idea 460 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: of massive plaques. I don't think this is the case, 461 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: because these governments are terrible at cooperating with each other 462 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: most of the time, but it is statistically inescapable that 463 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: other things are coming. The thing that I wish more 464 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: people were talking about is that the next thing down 465 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, man, it might actually be a nasty, 466 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: uh souped up version of influenza, and it might be 467 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: something that just can't be medicated around. I think it's 468 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: a fair question to ask how these things are related, 469 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: because they have similar symptoms, especially if you don't have 470 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: the the equipment right to do testing and stuff like that. 471 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: But as far as a you know, on this show, 472 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: of course, we don't always agree with each other, but 473 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page here as far 474 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: as we can see, uh. And this is not based 475 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: on just our own research. I've been reaching out to 476 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: some some folks, some audience members of the show who 477 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: work in this field professionally. As far as I can see, uh, 478 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: all the evidence points to stars Cove being it's its 479 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: own thing, uh. And the reason that we haven't seen 480 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: more reports of flu is to Matt's excellent point about 481 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: the countermeasures that were deployed, especially during flu seasons, we're 482 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: still around. Uh. The second point I would I would 483 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: note is the problem of finite resources for these institutions. 484 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: I guarantee you a lot of the people who were 485 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: working on influenza related things they got what could be 486 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: described as an ocean email that meant they were now 487 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: working on COVID. If that makes sense. For sure, to 488 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: speak directly to you, Luke, and anybody else out there 489 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: who's feeling that same way, I would say that early 490 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: on in this whole situation, I shared a lot of 491 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: your skepticism and uncertainty and uh, just questioning officially what's 492 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: being told to me. It felt very weird. It feels 493 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: still feels like a weird situation right. This whole thing 494 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: feels unreal, feels like a movie. UM. What I would 495 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: say is that I've had very very close people in 496 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: my world become infected with this thing, and I've seen 497 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: the effects firsthand. And I think a lot of you 498 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: listening right now have probably experienced, you know, some some 499 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: close brushes with this thing, if not fought your own 500 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: battle with it. UM, I would you you mentioned you're 501 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of stuff in your local news. UM, 502 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I we don't all have the same experience, right. 503 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: But one of the big strengths of having a group 504 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: like this, you know, where we can communicate with one 505 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: another and and get experiences and share them is being 506 00:33:55,240 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: able to see through other people's perspective. Right, So I 507 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: would just say reach out. Maybe maybe just because you're 508 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: not seeing in your local area doesn't mean that it's 509 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, not real or not what what somebody says 510 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: it is. It just means that it's not you know, 511 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: thankfully not affecting you or your local area. Um. And 512 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: that's really a blessing more than anything else, UM, because 513 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: it's this thing has ravaged a lot of people. I 514 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: don't really know where I'm going here. Just Luke, if 515 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: if you're still feeling like maybe it's not real, I 516 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: don't know, just reach out to some people and here's 517 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. Maybe that might be a good way. 518 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: Or just start a discussion and see what everybody else 519 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: is saying. Here's where it gets crazy. Is our Facebook 520 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: page for anybody who wants to hop on and have 521 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: have these kind of discussions. Again with the best part 522 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: of the show, which is you specifically you uh, you know, 523 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: I have to say on a personal note, I think 524 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: I speak for both of us here. Uh, we're continually 525 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: surprised and in no small way great well for the 526 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: level of discussion that goes on, like people are hearing 527 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: each other out and saying, well, I mean, I mean, 528 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: what do you think about it? You know, and that 529 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: kind of discussion, I guarantee you is infinitely more valuable 530 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: than people going in and trying to talk trash. Because 531 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't have uh, I don't have any peer reviewed 532 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: studies for this yet. I'm sure one's out there, but 533 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: I guarantee you nobody is as funny on the internet 534 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: as we like to think we are, me included, So 535 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: honest discussion is probably for the best. Matt, what do 536 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: you say? We take a take a pause for a 537 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and then uh, try try out 538 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: this new thing we're working on. Let's do it and 539 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: we have returned folks. Uh, so we teach something at 540 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: the top of today's segment. Um, we we get so many, 541 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: so very many awesome haul A correspondencies, you know, and 542 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: as we all like, we say, feel free to reach 543 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: out to us. Will tell you how at the end 544 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: of the show. You can always, of course, reach out 545 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: to me directly on social media if you want, uh 546 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: one thing, I'm just I'm available. I just do want 547 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: to volunteer you so well. One thing that we one 548 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: thing that bothered me about the structure of listener mail 549 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: and maybe you two, Matt, is that we were kind 550 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: of limiting ourselves to three three pieces of correspondence from you. 551 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: So we wanted to take the end of today show 552 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: to introduce a new segment where we found some We 553 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: found some trends. You know, a lot of us are 554 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: calling in about the same sort of thing, like uh, 555 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: psychedelics or the Marshall Islands and sharing stories that we 556 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: think you would enjoy hearing that we think are important. 557 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: And there are stories that maybe you don't need to 558 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: hear from us all because we we talked about we 559 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: want to share these stories directly with you. Okay, So 560 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: what we're going to do is play a couple of 561 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Lee's voicemails back to back and we will be right 562 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: back with you. You ready for it? Here we go. 563 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: These are messages related to in some way to the 564 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: topic we covered on the Marshall Islands and nuclear testing. Him. 565 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: My name is Kelsey. I'm from Arkansas. UM, I've lived 566 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: here my whole life. I was just listening to your 567 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: podcast episode UM Mystery Mayhem and new the story of 568 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: the Marshall Islands, which UM I found really interesting because 569 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: I actually went to college up in northeast Arkansas and 570 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: UM in Fayetteville, and next to it was a town 571 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: called Springdale, and UM, a couple of years in I 572 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: started going to in front Springdale. The first year was 573 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: kind of just didn't say it, they'll look good news 574 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: to it. And I went to, uh, Springdale, and I 575 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: was looking at shall the people, and when my friends 576 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: started telling me about the Marshall's people and like that 577 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: there was just a bunch of Marshall Ease Islanders people. 578 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, I want to be correct about it, but 579 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: Marshall's people who were moved there. And I don't know 580 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: how long they've been there or anything, but I've always 581 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: thought it personally that they were kind of just like 582 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: moved to a remote location because it is nobody knows 583 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: about Springdol, Arkansas, and everybody thinks about spring Dol, and UH, 584 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, they just kind of hit him in there. UM. 585 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: I just thought I would say that, UM, you may 586 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: know that already, but I love your show. Listen to 587 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: you all the time, Like, hey guys, UM, my name 588 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: is Mariah. I love the show. UM. I actually can't 589 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: get enough of std W I s p K UM, 590 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: but you're welcome to use my voice. I just got 591 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: done listening to your Marshall Island's episode and it was 592 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: super fascinating. I. UM. I come from a family of 593 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: eight children, and six of us are adopted, and UM, 594 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: three of them actually are from the Marshall Islands. UM. 595 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: And my mom, so we grew up in Nevada, which 596 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: so we knew all about um kind of the nuclear testing. 597 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: But my mom, we've talked about this a lot. UM 598 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: she went over there and UM for each three each 599 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: of the three siblings. UM, they flew out there to 600 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: the Marshall Islands and it was an experience like they 601 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: had never had them. My mom has told me just 602 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of what goes on there and the people there, 603 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: and UM, my siblings all seemed to have a lot 604 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: of learning disabilities and my mom thinks that UM, they well, 605 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: she doesn't know, but she definitely feels like, UM, some 606 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: of it could have stemmed from the nuclear testing that 607 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: they have done in the Marshall Islands. So, UM, I 608 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: guess my biggest thing is just wondering, UM if there's 609 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: any information on adoptions adoption of Marshalle's children in the 610 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: United States, UM with learning disabilities uh, and whether or 611 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: not that could be correlated to UM nuclear testing in 612 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: the Marshall Islands. So I'm again love the show, UM, 613 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: big fan, and I just cannot believe all the research 614 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: you guys do for your shows and just the amount 615 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: of information that I had. You feel so much more enlightened, 616 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: and you guys are just doing a amazing job. So 617 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: thanks by and we're back. Thank you, Chelsea, Thank you 618 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: so much. Brian. Yeah, I didn't know much about Springdale, Ben, 619 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: I honestly it was it's pretty tough to hear Mariah's 620 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: story about her her family there. Um, but man, both 621 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: of you can't thank you enough for leaving those messages 622 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: and and talking to us. And I'm really glad that 623 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: everybody gets to hear them. And we're gonna keep doing 624 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: this in the future. There was only two in this 625 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: particular instance. Get ready for some of these, we're gonna 626 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: start loading them up. If you're calling in and a 627 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: bunch of other people are calling in about the same thing. 628 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: We might just play a lot of them towards the 629 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: end of one of these segments, because you guys have, 630 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: like Ben said, you have great things to say. We 631 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: really appreciate your your comments and your opinions and your perspectives, 632 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: so we want to keep going in this trend YEP, 633 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: the big one might be psychedelics. Oh gosh, I'm just 634 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: making the call on that. Yes, yeah, be part of 635 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: this conversation. You can find us on the Internet in 636 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: a number of ways and personally, Uh, this is just 637 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: me speaking. One of my favorite things is to hear 638 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: about new topics you think your fellow listeners will enjoy 639 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: in a future episode. So how do I get in 640 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: contact with you guys? You're asking? Well, you find us 641 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Uh. You can find us on 642 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: YouTube where we are YouTube dot com conspiracy Stuff. You 643 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: can find us on Instagram as conspiracy Stuff show I think, uh, 644 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: and of course we'd like to recommend Here's where it 645 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: gets crazy some of the best mods in the business, 646 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: some of the best conversations happening on the uh weirdly 647 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: divisive at times social platform known as Facebook. You can 648 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: find us as individuals too, if you want to hit 649 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: me up directly on Twitter and map been bull in 650 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: hs W you want to hit me up directly on Instagram, 651 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: I am in a burst of creativity, as I like 652 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 1: to say at Ben Bolan shout out also to our 653 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: listener Lee, who just made a new camel license for me. 654 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: I lost one. I lost a camel writing license when 655 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: I was like six, and I'm it's really broke up 656 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: about it. So this guy made me a new one. 657 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: Nice dude, nice one WHOA Well, congratulations, I've been at 658 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: market for one of those two. Leave But that's cool, 659 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: that's all good. That's fine, man. We can can we 660 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: do that, we can camel licensing laws. But Matt, where 661 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: can where can people find you online? Oh? You can 662 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: find me at the aforementioned voicemail, the one that Ernest, Luke, 663 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: Chelsea and Mariah all used today. It is one eight 664 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: three three st d w y t K. You can 665 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: call us, leave a message and we've got kind of 666 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: a specific rubrit that you can use if you'd like. 667 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: It will help us out and it'll increase the chances 668 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: that your voicemail gets on the air. Ben correct me 669 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: here if I if I misspeak. Any of this stuff. 670 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: But I believe we would love for you to introduce 671 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: yourself either as your real name or your nickname, whichever 672 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: one you want us to use on the air. Uh. 673 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: If if you want to be anonymous, just use a 674 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: fun nickname, why not, let's do it. We'll call you 675 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: by that you'll know that we're talking to Beetlejuice and 676 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: it's you. Um, let's see. Then go ahead and just 677 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: tell your message, whatever it's gonna be. Remember to keep 678 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: it as short as you can. And then if you 679 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: want to talk directly to Ben Nolan myself and like 680 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: have a personal message, try and keep it towards the end. 681 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: That way, Paul or you know, Alexis or whoever is 682 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: going to edit it can chop that stuff off. Then 683 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: what was the last thing been? Oh, if it's too 684 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: If it's a very long story, we would recommend you 685 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: don't leave it on voicemail because we're probably not going 686 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: to be able to play the whole thing for one 687 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: of these episodes. If you have a longer story, please 688 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: send it via email and we'll tell you what that 689 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: email is in just a moment. It's just easier for 690 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: us to digest and then we can pare it down 691 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: and tell the whole story a little bit easier that way, 692 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: and you won't have to edit yourself into three minutes. 693 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: Believe us as old school video guys, there's nothing quite 694 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: as quite as Infury eight is knowing something should be 695 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: ten minutes and having to make it three. So this 696 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: is this is the way that you can contact us, 697 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 1: right to us in full love long emails. Uh, we're 698 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: all readers. It doesn't it doesn't matter. You don't have 699 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: to edit yourself when you decide to send a message 700 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: to us. We are a good old fashioned email addressed 701 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: which is conspiracy at i heart radio dot com. Stuff 702 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know is a production of 703 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,280 Speaker 1: I heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 704 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 1: visit the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 705 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.