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Speaker 2: Episode four seventy six. Her name is Carter Faith.

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Speaker 3: I know I say this a lot of times, but

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Speaker 3: I like her a lot. The thing about Carter Faith

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Speaker 3: like it. It's super refreshing and she's like, this is

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Speaker 3: like a really honest, very likable way. So she has

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Speaker 3: a new song called The Aftermath, and we can't play

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Speaker 3: that right.

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Speaker 2: We can't because we will go to jail.

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Speaker 3: So we suggest that you go and check out The Aftermath.

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Speaker 3: She has a whole new EP called The Aftermath. It

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Speaker 3: just came out on October eleventh. I encourage you to

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Speaker 3: go and search for it if you like this interview.

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Speaker 3: And I wish we could play clips, but now we

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Speaker 2: Yeah sucks, I mean it does.

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Speaker 3: It sucks hard. It puts us in a bad place.

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Speaker 3: She will be on Towards Midland this fall. She's opening

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Speaker 3: for Carly Pearce on some dates. But before all that,

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Speaker 2: She did. She did.

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Speaker 3: She's from David's in North Carolina. She has an older sister,

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Speaker 3: a younger brother who's also a musical artist. His name

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Speaker 3: is Gryffdorff. Yeah sounds like it's from Harry Potter.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's why I didn't know his real name, but

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Speaker 2: And I wanted to be like, do they still have

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Speaker 3: She grew up in a non musical family, but her

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Speaker 3: grandfather's country music cassette tapes were what inspired her. Taught

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Speaker 3: Another wrinkle to her life that I'm impressed by songwriting

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Speaker 3: I don't know we could keep going, but I just

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Speaker 2: You could just like casually drop drop the F word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was just like this f that. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Carter Faith again. Check her out on Instagram at Carter

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Speaker 3: Faith and Carter If you're listening to this this intro here,

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Speaker 3: I say all that with much love I do the aftermath,

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello Bobby. What what cities were we together?

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Speaker 1: We were in Wichital for two nights. I remember that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember you being really good, and I know

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Speaker 3: I did. I purposefully did not ask Tofer who produces rightes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He produces all my music.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, And I hope that my people were really

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was so fun. I thought your

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Speaker 3: And So what's funny about you is that in person

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Speaker 3: I am too until it's time to work, and then

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Speaker 2: Like they're expected to make adult decisions, yes, and.

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Speaker 1: Put themselves aside. Really every single second of every day.

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Speaker 3: That is that is a tough job for sure, which

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Speaker 2: We don't have kids yet.

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Speaker 3: We will have kids at some point, but I was

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Speaker 2: And be so young.

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Speaker 3: You're fine anyway, Yeah, that's aside from that, dude, But

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So like it's like I have friends that are idiots

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel I've seen like people give their babies

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Speaker 2: Was anybody musical in your family?

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Speaker 3: That's my because because that was that's vulnerable, Yes, very

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Speaker 3: Whenever you decided to come to Nashville to go to college,

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Speaker 3: It's a full commit to go to college here, but

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Speaker 1: I think so many times like that in Nashville really

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Speaker 2: Needed, having to co write with folks you didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's literally it's like a first date.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's what it is. And I would

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Speaker 1: It's not true.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, it's it's it's because here you are,

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Speaker 1: Well, what I would do is I would prepare like

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Speaker 2: That's like people that freestyle but they already have it

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Speaker 1: That would be me.

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Speaker 3: They're like, let me lay this down, let me go

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Speaker 2: But you know they had the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm such a liar.

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Speaker 2: That's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm such a liar.

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Speaker 4: Hang Ty, The Bobby Cast will be right back and

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Speaker 2: Did you write it home at all?

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Speaker 1: No songwriters. I got to the point where I would

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I should write some songs. I

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Speaker 2: Did you learn to play piano?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. When I did the normal piano lesson

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that's a mess up thing that I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I'll work on at some point.

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00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: But it's not me here.

449
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think acknowledging that it exists more than working

450
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 3: on it because it's what's gotten here and is kind

451
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 3: of your superpower now. And it's also given you what

452
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 3: your voice is. You have a pretty rebellious voice. What's

453
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 3: crazy about you and your music and what you do

454
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 3: when you like? I like you as a person, and

455
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: again we've spent some time together outside of this. I

456
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: like you, and you're easy to like and you're super nice.

457
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: But again, you're like a freaking firecracker when it's showtime.

458
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 3: Like I would be scared of you if if I

459
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: just saw you perform, I'll be like, there's no way.

460
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I feel like someone on my team recently

461
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: told me they were like, I like, I'm intimidated by you.

462
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: That is hilarious to me.

463
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: That's that's truth, because you have you're dominating on stage.

464
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: Thank you.

465
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I would be like, oh no, no,

466
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: she's way cooler than I am.

467
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna even go up and say if it

468
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 3: were the case, yeah, well.

469
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think back to like, my music

470
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 1: for me is a place I can go that I

471
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 1: can't go any other time, and I don't feel comfortable

472
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: going there all the time, and so I put it

473
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 1: in my music and it's just like, I mean, it's escapism.

474
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 3: I guess you come to town, you're in school, you're

475
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 3: writing songs. Did you feel like you liked writing songs

476
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: or was that to you something? It was fine, but

477
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 3: it was a conduit to get to the performance, Like

478
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: where did that all kind of fall.

479
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: In your head?

480
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 1: I love writing songs. That's my I will die writing

481
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: a song probably. I just feel like that's what I'm

482
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: here to do. That's what like, that's how I communicate

483
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: with myself in with anything else. The performance thing again,

484
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 1: like that is the hardest part of this business for me,

485
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite parts because there is nothing

486
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you feel this way too. There's nothing

487
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: like seeing someone in the audience who you know is

488
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: connecting with you and you know is having a great

489
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: night and you're just there with them as humans. That's

490
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: like so special to me. So I didn't know how

491
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: I would feel about performing, but I'm learning to love

492
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: it and to get used to that. It's just an

493
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: uncomfortable feeling for me.

494
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 3: How about the vulnerability in music when you write the

495
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: song and has that been a growth process for you

496
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: where he's kind of weighed in, yeah, more and more

497
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: and more.

498
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: I that's another thing, like I don't I can't lie

499
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: in my music. I lie a lot in real life.

500
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: Like that's what I say too, Like I'm full of

501
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: crap until I lie a lot.

502
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: I'm a good liar. I love telling people I'm a

503
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: bad liar. But in my music, I'm so honest, I think,

504
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: and just really emotional and vulnerable because that's the type

505
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: music I love. And that's what I started writing for,

506
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: was that feeling that I needed to get out. So

507
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: it's almost like because it's music, it's like a veil

508
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: I can hide time.

509
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: It's just that's the obviously that's the microphone for me.

510
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 3: It feels fake, Yes, it's not, and it's I can

511
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: have and I mean you said how I feel in

512
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: that I can have conversations like this conversation now we're having.

513
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: If we took the microphones away, I don't think I

514
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: would be able to have this intimate conversation and be

515
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: this vulnerable.

516
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: If we're just sitting here talking.

517
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: I would not be able to do that. I get

518
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: that because this microphone is here. It's not real.

519
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: I totally get that.

520
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Even though it's real, Yes, it's not real. I would

521
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: never be like Card, what's up. It's good to see you.

522
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: Let's talk about fat, sad, happy family even if we Nope, no,

523
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 3: this is the Superman cake.

524
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Yes, like events here are my hell, absolute hell. I

525
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: will be in the corner the entire time, sucking down

526
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: a drink, not talking to anyone.

527
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Do you ever think people feel? And I asked this

528
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: because I get this about me. People feel because you're

529
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 3: like that that maybe you're rude. Yes, and they're like, oh,

530
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: she thinks she's too good, when in reality it's like

531
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to bother anybody.

532
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like, like I went on, this is such

533
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: a stupid story. But I went out on the road

534
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: with my friend Ella Langley. I got to open two

535
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: shows for like two weeks ago, and she let me

536
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: ride her bus. That is so nice. A lot of

537
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: people do not do that. I'm like, I'm exhausted getting

538
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: home from this because my whole like self dialogue was

539
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: am I in the way? Am I in the way

540
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: when they asked me to come?

541
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

542
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: That's literally how my brain works.

543
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: Did when when you did Kansas with US? Did did

544
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: I offer free to fly back with us?

545
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: I don't know.

546
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: I think you had too many people with enough seats

547
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: because I think I did.

548
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure you did, and I'm sure I was like,

549
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: what I wondered, That's what I wonder when I said

550
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: that was if you ended up because I we flew back,

551
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 3: and I know I was like, hey, Sae, if Carter

552
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: wants to play back with this, but then you had

553
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: a player and maybe so I was like, but even

554
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: but even then, it's like, but I feel the same way. Yeah,

555
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: unless I'm really close to them or I'm like supposed

556
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: to be on I totally get it because otherwise I

557
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: feel like I am just in the way. Why would

558
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: anybody want to hang out with me?

559
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: Yes? Why do we hate ourselves like this?

560
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: It's such an insecurity though that creates what we're able

561
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: to do at the same time, So when I started

562
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: going to therapy, and when I started really getting too therapy,

563
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to get too therapy because.

564
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to lose my superviow And he was like,

565
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: don't be an idiot. Don't be an idiot. He's like,

566
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: he's like, you're so broken, don't WRT about it. You're

567
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: still going to be I'm not going to be able

568
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: to fix you.

569
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: You graduated school here, I did. Yeah, why'd you want

570
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: to quit so many times?

571
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: Like? What was the was it to do music? Was

572
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: it you just tired to school?

573
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: I think also when I got to town and I

574
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: was like there was a quiet confidence in me where

575
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm good at this. I have

576
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: to send me. So I started writing. That's another thing

577
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: about my family. My dad is like, you're gonna write

578
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: every day you're there. You're going to ask anyone who

579
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: write with you to write with you. You're gonna play

580
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: every show. Like that's just how their brains worke. It's business.

581
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: And so that's what I did. And eventually, like I guess,

582
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: like probably two years into being here, people like Liz

583
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: Rose were gemming me back and writing with me and

584
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: like shit like that. And so by the time I

585
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: was done with school, I had a publishing deal offer.

586
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: I was like, get me out of here. I'm ready

587
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: to like move on.

588
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: When did you start to gain confidence in yourself in Nashville.

589
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh was it in comparison with others? And not that

590
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: you were comparing yourself, but you would actually see other

591
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: people do their thing and go, oh, I don't feel

592
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,239
Speaker 3: so small, like I can do this?

593
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Or did you have did you have it before you

594
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 2: got here.

595
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I think what was really momentous, what's the word monumental for.

596
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: Me was.

597
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: There were there would be publishers that would come into

598
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: our songwriting class and listen to all our songs. And

599
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: I remember feeling like kind of outcast because I didn't

600
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: write with a lot of the other Belmont people. I

601
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: didn't like make friends in college again back to you know,

602
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: knew everyone my whole life. So when I came to college,

603
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it's I'm scared. And so I

604
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: would write by myself or write with people in town.

605
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: And I think it was really special for me because

606
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: pop like actual Nashville publishers would come into our class

607
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: and they would always notice me. And that was when

608
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I would get noticed by people actually in town, and

609
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, maybe I don't have what Belmont

610
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: has right now, and I thought that was a negative,

611
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: but maybe I have what Nashville wants and I can

612
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: go right in town and I'm doing something right, like

613
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: I'm writing the way that actual writers write instead of

614
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: still learning, like I'm just diving into the deep end.

615
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: Because I didn't write since I was like an eight

616
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: year old writing songs like wanting to do this. I

617
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: feel like I just went in super naive and that

618
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: was really helpful for me. And so those publishers would

619
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: let me write with their signed writers, and people just

620
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: kind of lifted me up while I was still in school,

621
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: and I think that gave me confidence. People giving me confidence, you.

622
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, but this time doesn't give anything.

623
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

624
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: So I would say any confidence they gave you was

625
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: earned because this is a very value based down They

626
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: must have seen value in you in some way that

627
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: you could help them in some way. They are a

628
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: couple of good wines. But this is a this is

629
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: a business. Sounds a business.

630
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: No, I've I've learned that, so I.

631
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Don't watch it because you're good.

632
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: It's definitely wasn't anyone doing you any charity, but it's

633
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: people recognizing.

634
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that recognition, though, was really great for me,

635
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: just because my parents love what I write, my friends

636
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: love what I write. But who cares about that? You know?

637
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, most parents and friends love what their friends. Right?

638
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: What about singing? Were you were doing vocal anything in school?

639
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: I was like singing class?

640
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, do they have those?

641
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 3: They have vocal classes, right, But but are they like

642
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: opera or do they have like country?

643
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: You can major in voice at Belmont, but you have

644
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: to take opera class.

645
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Or can you do a voice? Can you do like

646
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: country music voice? I don't think so you don't either.

647
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what they would teach. I

648
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: guess what are they teach in songwriting? Though they teach a.

649
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Lot, but what do they teach in songwriting?

650
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: We did a lot of like analyzing songs, which I

651
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: think is smarter than like being like, this is your

652
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: rhyme scheme, because that's just you know, you need to

653
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: know those rules to break them.

654
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: Rhymes rhymes dot com, rhymesone dot com. There's you go.

655
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: You're looking for a rhyme.

656
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: If you need to be taught how to rhyme in something?

657
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: There seriously, So you evaluate songs or not evaluate, but

658
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 3: you listen to songs and then try to understand what

659
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: made them, what made it good?

660
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: Like I remember we listened to Space Cowboy by Casey

661
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: and we're just all like, this is just simple, simple, beautiful,

662
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Like there's a complex part here, this melody here, Like

663
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: that's what we do, which I think is helpful.

664
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: That's super cool.

665
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what artists do you hear? Maybe not even artists

666
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: a word. I think artists were not singers. What artists

667
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: do you hear? They kind of speak for you? And

668
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: I asked that because I always had favorite artists and

669
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: singers and stuff. But when I was in my twenties

670
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: or so, like John Mayer would say stuff and I

671
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: would be like, oh, I think that, Oh this is

672
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: somebody who's like songwriting my thoughts.

673
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: I never had that happen before.

674
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.

675
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: And there are comedians that we'll say things and I'm like, oh,

676
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: I thought that. I just didn't say that in that

677
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: way nearest funny and nearest compelling as they did.

678
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: But like there's who what artists did that for you?

679
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I think like Miranda Lambert that was my badass side,

680
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: you know. And then Casey Musgraves. I remember hearing Mary

681
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: go around in a Walmart parking lot and I made

682
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: us stay in the car till we listened to the

683
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: whole thing for the first time. Just people like that.

684
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: They are just talking about small town normal life because

685
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: that is what most of America is, and that's definitely

686
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: the life I lived, was just normal life with these

687
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: like very intense feelings that all creatives have, that all

688
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: people have. Probably, so there's definitely a lot of Casey

689
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: Miranda Pistolani's always have.

690
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: You met Maranda?

691
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I have not met Miranda.

692
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: Very guys are very similar just in Yeah, I'm lucky

693
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: enough to know Miranda relatively well at this point.

694
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: She just seems real and very soft spoken and quiet.

695
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and unless she's like doing her thing that's not

696
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: her thing, Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild because again,

697
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: she is such a freaking fire crack.

698
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes she is. She's I want her to like stand

699
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: up for me, you know, and I want her to

700
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: be on my mind.

701
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: And she would, and she'd cut somebody too. But other

702
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: than that, she's just quiet Miranda who's really not going

703
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: to get in anybody's way and be a wallflower. But

704
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: as well, a lot of similarities there.

705
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like to observe and you can tell

706
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: that in her music, I think too, which is why

707
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: it's not just that badass side. It has that like

708
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: real person side too.

709
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: Congrats on signing a deal.

710
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Thank you.

711
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: When did you get that news?

712
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: Was it a long work in progress where you kept

713
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: hoping developing with that?

714
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: I think my long work in progress has been like

715
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: finding people on my team that I trust. So I've

716
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: gone through some managers, I've gone through some people on

717
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: my side, and so that was kind of a long

718
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: time coming. I learning how to trust people in this

719
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: business is really hard because what how.

720
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: Can I trust any of your very transactional place and

721
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: everybody's your best friend until it's not easy to be.

722
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Your best friend, which that's business.

723
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: And it is this but you're right, it feels very

724
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: it's very personal. It feels way more personal than it

725
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: actually is, especially at first, because I felt I fell

726
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: into those trappings at first too. I was like, oh,

727
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: this person, this is my best friend. Yes, And then

728
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: it turns out then you go.

729
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: To all the other labels and they all have their

730
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: same fiel.

731
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

732
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm learning how to clock people quicker, which is helpful.

733
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: But I think my experience with Universal Nashville all has

734
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: to do with Hannah Wilson and Cindy. Maybe there Hannah Wilson.

735
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I've known her since I was still at school, and

736
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: she just loved what I did and would come to

737
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: my shows and come to my c MA fest deada

738
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: heat show, you know that no one was there. And

739
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: then when I met Cindy, maybe she just she just

740
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: liked what I did. Like she's like, I don't need

741
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: you cutting outside songs. I like your voice. I need

742
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: your voice. I think it's important. And when you're a

743
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: songwriter that just speaks volumes. And then there's a woman there,

744
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Chelsea Blythe who I love so much too. She's from

745
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: LA and she has just a whole different view on

746
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: country music, which I think we're seeing is very important.

747
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: When you sign a deal one what does that mean? Now?

748
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: But were you nine six three months working toward this

749
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: specific deal with these specific people. Were you wondering, I

750
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: wonder if they're gonna sign me? Or was it like

751
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: a random call, Hey Carter, you want to do Yeah?

752
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm all I mean, like, what is that? What is

753
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: that process? What's the build? It's different for everybody.

754
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Like mine was like I met with a lot of

755
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: labels and they all act interested, you know, and then

756
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: you like keep and then you're like, dude, am I

757
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: interested in them? It is like I felt like I

758
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: was a bachelorette, you know, which is so weird. And

759
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: because I'm not this TikTok viral girl, like I don't

760
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: have these like crazy, They're not going to give me

761
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: like five million dollars, you know. So I'm like, they

762
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: have to care about my music and I have to

763
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: feel that well.

764
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: They need to long term invest in you.

765
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm trying to do this my whole life. This

766
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: is my career. So I think I met with a

767
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: lot of LA labels, I met with a lot of

768
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: Nashville labels, and I basically at one point just told Universal,

769
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: which is this is probably bad business on my half,

770
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm only going to sign with

771
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: you guys, so it's now and never like let's go.

772
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: And it was done in like a month.

773
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: Were other labels making you different offers or was there that?

774
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Wow?

775
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: But that's pretty cool.

776
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 3: It does mean all the offers are goodfair or yes,

777
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: but that's cool.

778
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: No, that is really freaking cool. Like I don't know,

779
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just a girl and you guys want

780
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: to give me money to make music.

781
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool for you. Hesitant to sign at all?

782
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because I again, I don't like authority. This

783
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: is very personal to me all the things. I just

784
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: it's scary to put your like my heart and soul

785
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: in someone else's hands. That's what it truly feels like.

786
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: But I also that's what I needed to level up.

787
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: I thought about it a ton, and that's what I

788
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: decided I needed to get to that next level. So

789
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I keep going.

790
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Did you do the thing where you took the picture

791
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: with the papers in front of you? Yeah? I did.

792
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I expect you all.

793
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, everybody's around you, and then you take up

794
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: the picture. How long ago to take the picture?

795
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: That was in March? I think?

796
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: And then do you get to post it right away

797
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 3: or it's like we're gonna hold onto what you officially

798
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: announce it?

799
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: I think I posted it right away.

800
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

801
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: I also don't really ask permission for a lot of things,

802
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, sorry, it's announced.

803
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: I felt that.

804
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

805
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: And so when you sign with the label, do they

806
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: say when if you signed, we'd love to have you.

807
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: Here is our version of a long the long term

808
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: strategy we would do with you, yeah.

809
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: Because like an agency.

810
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: I I switched agents recently a year and a half ago,

811
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: and I was I liked my agency CAA, but my person,

812
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: an old agent, had gotten so big in the political

813
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: world representing people that I felt a bit lost because

814
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: her specialty wasn't television, which is what I was doing.

815
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: And so she was like, I'm so I said, hey,

816
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to other agencies. There's really open and honest,

817
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: and all of them were like, come to us WM ME.

818
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: It was all right, They're all like but they all

819
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: had a different version of what their offerings were. And

820
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: I ended up signing with UTA that's my agent now.

821
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: But I liked their long term and they said, okay,

822
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: look we're signing now. But in three months, six months,

823
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: twelve months. This is where some of them were just like,

824
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: if you signed with us, we're gonna be rocking immediately.

825
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's kind of.

826
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: Bull crap, Like I see you, yeah, yeah, it's like

827
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: that sounds really good, but that's kind of bull crapes.

828
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: Where's the label situation similar? And what about where you signed?

829
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: We're like, what was the plan? What did they tell you? Oh?

830
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: My god, my favorite thing for people to say is like,

831
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, are we doing this or not? And I'm like,

832
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: we're not else. Sorry. I think the plan with them

833
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: is like I'm trying to be a big fucking deal,

834
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I am gonna work for that and

835
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: this is what I love and I'm gonna want to

836
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: do that.

837
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: Are are you going I need I need a single

838
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: out tomorrow whenever this happens, or are you going I

839
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: need you guys to let me find that that I

840
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: think is that single we need tomorrow whenever that day comes.

841
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I came in with an album that I wanted to record,

842
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: and so I was like, this is my album that

843
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I want to record. I'm still writing, I write three

844
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: times a week, but I need to know that you

845
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: guys are gonna let me put out an album next year.

846
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: And because I need to put out music. I think

847
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: that's the game now, is being frequents. I need your guys'

848
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: help getting me on tours or just helping me get

849
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: out in front of real people stuff like that. And

850
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: I also, I feel like what I really loved about

851
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: Universal is that they just appreciate my point of view,

852
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna tell me I can't say a

853
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: certain word or say something a certain way, and I'm

854
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: very clear about that in meetings. So I think just

855
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: I just love that they respect me and I respect them.

856
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: Feels like that what I appreciate about you is not

857
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: what your point of view is.

858
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: Is that you have one right, Yeah, Like I don't need.

859
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: To agree with anyone's ideas or point of view or

860
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: for art. Yeah, but I do really love when people

861
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 3: have one, yeah, and one that is ninety three percent

862
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: formed already. I'm always about ninety three percent. You're always changing, yeah,

863
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: a little bit right. And so do you feel like

864
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: that's what they liked about you? I think so is

865
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: that not so much exactly what you said and they

866
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: agree with everything about what the deep but they were like, oh,

867
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: we just like this.

868
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: She freaking has an idea of what she wants and

869
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: who she is.

870
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: I think. So, I mean, I'm like, I'm going to

871
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: have weekly meetings like this is what I expect.

872
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: That's freaking awesome.

873
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: But my parents are business people, so they're like, you

874
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: know that. I think that's why I've been successful in

875
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: a way is because I've had both those points of view.

876
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: All right, It's a little different yeah, song a little

877
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: different for it. I mean, to me, it sounds a

878
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: little different.

879
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: It's very different.

880
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: What's up?

881
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: So honestly, me and Tofer, we made like I was

882
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: talking about the album I brought to Universal that I

883
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: want to record. We had made album before that, and again,

884
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: like management switched up. I was like, I don't feel

885
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: comfortable release since as an album doesn't feel like me anymore.

886
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of songs we recorded that

887
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I really loved, and Alright was one of those. And

888
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I just felt like, it's not like I'm on country

889
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: radio and I need to be any sort of thing

890
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: right now, Like I just love this song and I

891
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: want to put it out, and we say it feels

892
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: like the Willy Wonka soundtrack with like Ana del Rey vibes,

893
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: and I love both those things I love. I just

894
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: love a lot of other influences artistically than country, Like

895
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: I am country, but I like playing into all those

896
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: other influences as well.

897
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: And the irony is that's most people, and the same

898
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: irony is businesses, corporations, executives don't really feel safe doing that.

899
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: Which was my struggle when I moved to town. Was

900
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: here I come, I don't wear a cowboy hat. I

901
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: don't have a belt buckle. And it's like I played

902
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: hip hop on my show. I did, but again, I'm

903
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: from Mountain Pine, Arkansas. Like the trade, yeah, the trailer

904
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: party like. And there's different kinds of country. There's cowboy country,

905
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: there's redneck hilberty country, which is what I was right,

906
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: white trash country, yes, And so you know, I come

907
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 3: to town but I have a background in hip hop

908
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: and pop and alternative. But I'm as country as you

909
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: could possibly be. But this town was not.

910
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 2: Warm to it for a long.

911
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: Time because it was just so it was different. But

912
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: the thing was, it wasn't different. And my this is

913
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: I was like just what everybody is. Yes, and it

914
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: feels like that your story has so much parallel with that.

915
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: Is that that's what you're You're.

916
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Sensibilities are the normal person. Yes, your country, but you

917
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: also love Landon del Ray or insert other artists.

918
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: It's not country and you can still be country and

919
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: have all that.

920
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: And I've seen so many female country artists talk about

921
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: being put in a box and I just don't want

922
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: to start off on that foot. I feel like I

923
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: can not be put in a box if I don't

924
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: start in the box. So that's something I'm like super

925
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: passionate about doing.

926
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: What words to people and not want you to put

927
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: in songs what words if you put in songs, do

928
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: you have songs?

929
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

930
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: But is that any Mike, Do you feel like that's

931
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: even that bad anymore?

932
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: No? I don't think.

933
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't either, because I feel like

934
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: that it's just the vernacular. And also it's like just

935
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: Sabrina Carpenter or let's go there. Judge you as an example,

936
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: because that's a very very current example, like and please,

937
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: please please, I mean the F word, even Taylor. Yeah,

938
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: I mean they're throwing it's it's not a thing. It's

939
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 3: just a bunch of forty five to sixty year old

940
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: that wasn't a thing like that. They're like, well, we

941
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: can't do this because it was never done that way before.

942
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: But it's just not the same anymore.

943
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: No, And I think girl like not girls like people

944
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: my age see that, and that's how we talk.

945
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: I agree.

946
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: So I agree that I just need people who are like, Okay,

947
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: that is real, that is real.

948
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: What's the lyric you have with the f wort in it?

949
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: He only fucks with the strong stuff.

950
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: Like drinks or women or.

951
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, both the songs about both.

952
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: What song is that strong stuff? Is that the only

953
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: song you have the effort in it?

954
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I say, fuck in Carolina burns too?

955
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: What's the what's the context of that?

956
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: Nothing sticks around like a fucked up crown?

957
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: Do you we're either one of those songs ever going

958
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: to be and you're like whatever they call a single?

959
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: Now? Did you make an other like another like a that's.

960
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: Another thing version. I didn't really realize that, like to

961
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: have a clean and you have to have a whole

962
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: nother master. Oh, I didn't know that you can't just

963
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: mute it or like movement. So I was like, no,

964
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a clean version because

965
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: I can't pay for another master.

966
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

967
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that crazy this time?

968
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: Did you know that? I thought you or just like

969
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: mute it?

970
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, just mute it. And it's like point two, like

971
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: version two of the same. I know you're write three

972
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: times a week now?

973
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: Still more?

974
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Three usually is the good number.

975
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: What are you writing about most right now? Like just conceptually?

976
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: What what what's.

977
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: I I'm like finishing writing for this album that I'm about.

978
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: To start, like, what emotion are you feeling? Mostly most

979
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: of your songs are even if you don't write them.

980
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, most of your things are happiness, sadness, anger, jealousy,

981
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: Like where are you right now?

982
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: Well, so I date another artist, So it's a lot

983
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: of like I love you, but we're probably not going

984
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: to end up together, you know that? Like honest feeling.

985
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask who if it's not known, is

986
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: it known?

987
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? His name? We have a song together. Okay, Okay,

988
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: his name's Tyler Halverson. He's a Texas country artist.

989
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: Let me see this guy looks like yeah, yeah, that

990
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: meet him. That's not him. I'm a different day.

991
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm a different guy.

992
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: No as a guy who worked No, No, Tyler Halverson.

993
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah. He's definitely got a vibe about him.

994
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: He's on the road every weekend because he does the

995
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: whole Texas rigamarole.

996
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: You know.

997
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like writing a lot about missing him and

998
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: if he's talking to hoes and shit like that.

999
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know thing about him, but we

1000
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: do know I like about him. Yeah, he looks legitimate

1001
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: as the artist that he is.

1002
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: He also like has a little softness like a little nerd,

1003
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: like kind of like a little Yeah, there's something about

1004
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: him that's not just.

1005
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm an angry cowboy and I don't know.

1006
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of country music right now. It feels

1007
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: like just being yelled at.

1008
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: Does he wre prescription glasses? Yes?

1009
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: He does.

1010
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: I like that too. I think that's why he's really

1011
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: bad and kind of tell something's up there. And how

1012
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: long you guys been together?

1013
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Like a year and a half.

1014
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Going pretty good?

1015
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the best.

1016
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: He lived here, he lives here.

1017
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he It's just nice to talk to someone about

1018
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: things that they get and it's not like someone you're

1019
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: competitive with.

1020
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. M hm, this

1021
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: is the Bobby Cast.

1022
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: Have you had day to day changes since you've signed

1023
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: a deal?

1024
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: Do?

1025
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Is?

1026
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: I feel the same right now? But you're expecting, like

1027
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: when you're done it to be different.

1028
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it better be different, right, I'm like here, better help.

1029
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: My day to day is just different because I have

1030
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: to ask more people if I should do something or

1031
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: ask for forgiveness if I did something wrong. So like

1032
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: more I have to answer to more people. But I

1033
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: guess they're kind of answering to me. That's the mindset

1034
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking.

1035
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: You have management, I do, Yeah, I'm with range, and

1036
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: so did you have the whole.

1037
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: My struggle was for a long time I felt like

1038
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: I was working for them, I know. And then I

1039
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I hope. I it took me a

1040
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: long time to realize. Then I got to be like,

1041
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: I have to make it like they're working for me.

1042
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Now I'm in a really good spot where we work together. Yes,

1043
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: but they're not my boss. But I felt like for

1044
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: a long time, like I was like, I don't want

1045
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: to get in trouble with my management.

1046
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: No, I know, did you have that?

1047
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm a little girl.

1048
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 3: You're not fooling me with that one. But yeah, because

1049
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: that's a weird thing, especially if they're older than you.

1050
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I think what again? What helped

1051
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: me is too bad experiences with other managers. I had

1052
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: to learn how to fire someone.

1053
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so you did. So you did have the struggles

1054
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: early on?

1055
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pretty rough. And I had to be a

1056
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: big girl and make a decision and get out of

1057
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: that situation or you know all the things. So I

1058
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: went into deciding who my manager would be very headstrong,

1059
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: and I was just like I'm Carter Jones. This project

1060
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: is Carter Faith. I want Carter Faith to be all

1061
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: of ours. But like I'm the president.

1062
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: How long did it take you to be that?

1063
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: I started out with them like that because.

1064
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: With your current Yeah, so with the first wed no,

1065
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: oh my god, and don't say who it is or

1066
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: anything like no, no, but where And in my mess

1067
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: ups too, and some of them were my fault.

1068
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know I did things wrong.

1069
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. I think you probably have experiences.

1070
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I think everyone has. Like assuming someone's on the same

1071
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: page as you is my biggest mistake.

1072
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: Mine also is assuming they're doing as much work and

1073
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: is caring as much as I am.

1074
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: They're not, and they're not.

1075
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: And and and the actualization is, of course they're not.

1076
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Of course they're not.

1077
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: Of course they're not.

1078
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: But they weren't doing it even as much as I

1079
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: thought they should have anyway. Yeah, so I had to

1080
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 3: go first of all, no one's gonna work as hard

1081
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: for me as me, because.

1082
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm the only I'm the only me. Yes, however, they're

1083
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: not doing crap, I.

1084
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: Know, like separating that is a thing. Yeah, and yeah,

1085
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: just in this business, everyone has their own opinions. It's

1086
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: like everything is taken personally at a time.

1087
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 2: You know, did you ever read the Four Agreements?

1088
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: No?

1089
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: Very in Uh, it's it's it's so easy. It's like

1090
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: a very very very thin book. You can read it

1091
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: in an hour. But when you say that, I usually

1092
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: read it once a year. And one of them is

1093
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: don't take anything personal in business. It's very very hard

1094
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 3: for me to do because I'm so insecure, which creates

1095
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: wild competitiveness that I take everything personally and want to

1096
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: burn everyone down because they're my end, the me.

1097
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: If we're not the same, we're not.

1098
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: No one can have it but me, absolutely yes.

1099
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: And anybody I've ever competed against, I hate them. And

1100
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: then I realize, as I get older, maybe I don't

1101
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: have but I do have that, and I still have

1102
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: that emmy that have to fight sometimes. But the Four

1103
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: Agreements is tremendous because it is just like the whole

1104
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: section of it is, don't take anything personal in business

1105
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: because they're not doing it to be personally, and if

1106
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 3: they are, that's a different situation.

1107
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: But I had to.

1108
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: Learn that, and that's tough because I took everything personal

1109
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: and business because business was so personal to me, yes,

1110
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: And it's gotta be personal to you because you're right,

1111
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: so much of what you do is personal, like what

1112
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: you're writing about, like your product is personal.

1113
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like, don't disrespect my art. This is like

1114
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: my child, you know.

1115
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 3: And to them, it's not their child. It's business and

1116
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: you know what, that's what they're supposed to do. They're

1117
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: supposed to see it like business. Yes, yes, And it's

1118
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: finding that right dynamic.

1119
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like I've found that, like range is

1120
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: so my current managers, they're so professional in that way

1121
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: it's business, but they respect me as a person and

1122
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: an artist and a creative and that's like, I don't know,

1123
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: that's just hard to find. But I think also everyone's

1124
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: it's like a relationship, Like everyone's dynamic is going to

1125
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: be different.

1126
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: Cherry Valley Show.

1127
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so there's more to come on what that means.

1128
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: But basically, I just wanted to put together a show.

1129
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: That's the only headline show I've ever done headline, and

1130
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to sing with my friends and my band.

1131
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: I just put together an awesome band that I love

1132
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: and they're some of my closest friends, and I just

1133
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: wanted to put out a show in Nashville where my

1134
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: family could come, my friends could come, to be honest,

1135
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think I want to do some more of

1136
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: those because it was just awesome and fun.

1137
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: I love Ashley Monroe.

1138
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Yes, she's like my sister.

1139
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: Did we talk about Carter when Ashley was here at all?

1140
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah.

1141
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: I've known Ashley for a long mess. And I was

1142
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: telling Ashley because there were there were a few years

1143
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: we didn't talk and actually got sick for a while,

1144
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: and and we didn't talk because for any we didn't

1145
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: talk because we weren't.

1146
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: Talking, but just grow marriage all for her.

1147
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: But what I was telling her was, I know we

1148
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 3: haven't talked in a long time, but I don't feel

1149
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: like we haven't talked. Like That's how much I like

1150
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: value her.

1151
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: She's like a spiritual person to me, for sure.

1152
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: Lucas Nelson. I met Lucas in California, and I knew

1153
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: of his music and I will listen to it a

1154
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: little bit, and then I knew it was in the real,

1155
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: the whole deal, and we were at he plays golf.

1156
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: He's a big golfer.

1157
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew that.

1158
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we were at the Pebble Beach pro am,

1159
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: and both of us were two of the celebrities there

1160
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: by exactly.

1161
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: We're wildly famous.

1162
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: And Lucas is friends with one of my friends, and

1163
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: so we kind of were in the group together.

1164
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: And the first night of.

1165
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 3: The event, they everybody that has like a skill or

1166
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: a talent goes up and it's just entertaining.

1167
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: That's fun.

1168
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 3: So, you know, so he gets up by a couple

1169
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: of songs and make gets up and so Lucas, I

1170
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: want to go.

1171
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: I'll go up and do some songs. And so he

1172
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: goes up for like threes.

1173
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, right, Oh it's completely different.

1174
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was like my wife and I

1175
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: were like, what just happened?

1176
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: Here comes out of him. It's pretty crazy to watch.

1177
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: And so An he's such a lovely, kind guy. Because

1178
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: then after that we got to know him more because

1179
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: that was just like he was so good and they

1180
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: weren't Alanda giants. We get to see great people all

1181
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: the time. We lived where everybody great comes. And still

1182
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 3: it was like when I watched Lucas play, I was

1183
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: like this, there's an.

1184
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: That's an alien. Yeah, that's an So how do you

1185
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: know Lucas So.

1186
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: There's this house in West Nashville. I guess, I guess

1187
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say where.

1188
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: It is, but it's a pretty large area.

1189
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty pretty large area. It's this old house.

1190
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: It's kind of falling apart, but a lot of people

1191
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: I know live in it. That's how I met my

1192
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: boyfriend because he used to live there. Ashley has a

1193
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: writing spot there, Lucas Uh. That's where his Nashville spot is.

1194
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: Meg McCree, Ben Chapman. A lot of hippies called the

1195
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Hippie House, so they all write there. So I just

1196
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: would go over there all the time, and it's like

1197
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: feels like the seventies. You're like, there's back porch, we're

1198
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: all smoking on and hanging out. And I think that's

1199
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: just the type people I gravitate towards. Like I love

1200
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: that you said alien, because there's a lot of creative

1201
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: people in this town. But I really gravitate towards people

1202
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: who are like it's bleeding out of them and like

1203
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: they have to do this because it's in them, not

1204
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: just for any other reason. And so that's how I

1205
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: met him. We I think, honestly, I was writing upstairs

1206
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: with Ashley Monroe and Connie Harrington and Lucas knocked on

1207
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: the door to see if we had coffee or something,

1208
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: and he was holding a guitar and just sat down

1209
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: started writing with us. It's the first time I met him.

1210
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: By the end of the song, we're like, oh, you

1211
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: weren't even in here before. But it's just that, like

1212
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: the inertia of creativity is always in that house, which

1213
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: is cool.

1214
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: Another person that played I'm talking about the last show

1215
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: that I think is so special and lover and I

1216
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: would take a pellot for her, not a bullet, Not.

1217
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: A bullet pellet, a Pellett paintball.

1218
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Is Jillian Jacqueline. Yes, like and Jill. I took Jillian

1219
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 2: to a bunch of shows with me, like two tours ago.

1220
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think I when I was going out

1221
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: with you, I asked her about it. She's like, he's

1222
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: the best.

1223
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: Oh good, yeah, yeah, not creepy at all.

1224
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: He's like, She's like, he's super mean.

1225
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: Well, I just would also get like, not me, I don't.

1226
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't get this, but I that's good.

1227
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: The people you can ask because this sounds weird, man. Yeah,

1228
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: It's like some dudes like, hey, come and yes, you know, yeah,

1229
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: so I know.

1230
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but you're not creepy. I'm not. I don't

1231
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: think I'm creepy at all.

1232
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: So thank you for validating my thought that I am

1233
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: not creepy.

1234
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, Jillian is really amazing.

1235
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: She's awesome, and she's an unreal songwriter and she's still

1236
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: sister in law's right. So it's just that God love

1237
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: incest Well.

1238
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: They don't do it, yeah, but that it's incestual, but

1239
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: not really, not like Arkansas, not like where I'm from,

1240
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: where we do it with our family.

1241
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's how you got here.

1242
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: Exactly how else would I be here? You know what

1243
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: school is.

1244
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: I do know you, and I've seen you play and

1245
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 3: I've heard your voice. Not interesting voice, but i've heard

1246
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: your voice. What you speak for, what you speak at.

1247
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: People are going to love you. It's just a matter

1248
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,240
Speaker 3: of time, and it's the strategy of what you're deciding,

1249
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: what your label decides. It's like, people are going to

1250
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: love you. There are certain people that I meet in

1251
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: this town. What's two stories and just pops into my head.

1252
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: One ell I was on the show yesterday. We haven't

1253
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 3: aired it yet, but she when that song sharted to

1254
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: blow up, and they weren't like put a radio. I

1255
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: just started playing it because I was like, that's a

1256
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 3: good song and I love.

1257
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Its different exactly, like thank you for giving us something different.

1258
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 2: It's awesome exactly. And I was like, this is fun

1259
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 2: and really good.

1260
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of course she's talking in it, but then

1261
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: the chorus it's great. And so I played the song

1262
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: and it's not like I found the song it blew up,

1263
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: but I started playing the song a little bit and

1264
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: I was like, let's get her up here. And so

1265
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 3: she came up and Riley was up with her yesterday too, but.

1266
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: Some real she has texture about her.

1267
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: Yeah she's a bad ass, yes, and real country girl right.

1268
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 2: There, and like said stuff, Yeah, she's smart.

1269
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: And there's a difference in coming in and doing a

1270
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 3: fine interview and answering questions and saying things then coming

1271
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: in and she just was like this is why I am.

1272
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say stuff. And she

1273
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: wasn't worried about it like it was. That was refreshing

1274
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: and the first time I'd ever met her.

1275
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: She's a refreshing person.

1276
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: And when you mentioned her earlier, I was like pen

1277
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back to that because she but she

1278
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna put you guys in a category here.

1279
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know her.

1280
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: She had the song blow Up somebody that I met

1281
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: probably seven years ago, and I've been a diehard fan

1282
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: of her as a creative and she's just now starting

1283
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 3: to pop and she was on my show today.

1284
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: We recorded with her is Cassie Ashton.

1285
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: Love and seven years ago, I'm like.

1286
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Thank you for all catching on right, It's crazy.

1287
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: I was so blown away by her then and I

1288
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: would have her coming. She'd play with Ryan and she

1289
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: played shows with me, and I would be amazed that

1290
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: nobody else was so amazed.

1291
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: She was a huge deal. I would be like, how

1292
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: are people missing this?

1293
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't get that?

1294
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: And but now she performed today and again she's now

1295
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: she's got to she's it's hitting for her. And I

1296
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: just always felt like, I don't know what the wind

1297
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: needs to be like, but people are going to love

1298
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: her because she's She's definitely different.

1299
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: Yes, she is herself, and.

1300
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: That's that's the that's the vibe that I get from you,

1301
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: not just today but in general. Because we've been able

1302
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 3: to spend a little bit of time together, people are

1303
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: going to love you, and I hope it's in eight months,

1304
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: twelve months.

1305
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: I hope it's on that level. You're already growing your.

1306
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: Base, and if it's not eight months or twelve months,

1307
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 3: it's going to be. At some point people are going

1308
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: to love you. There's only a few people that I

1309
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 3: feel that way about. I'm excited for you.

1310
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1311
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: It's super cool. And when people meet you either are like, oh,

1312
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: like Carter Wosh, she's really white. Then all of a

1313
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: sudden you slice them and dice them and then you

1314
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 3: fire them, and then they're like, I don't work for you,

1315
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: Like you're fired anyway.

1316
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: You know, she's hardcore that.

1317
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: McDonald's you're fired, bitch.

1318
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: How did you and to for meet?

1319
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Speaker 1: We met at a wedding actually this there's a videographer

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Speaker 1: company called Running Bear and one of the it's brother's

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00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: sister duo and the girl's name is Alexa and she

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: got married and we were sat next to each other

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: at a table and I was like stoned and didn't

1324
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: know anyone feeling weird, and he was just I mean,

1325
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, tofer. He talked to me right off the bat,

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00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: and I'm an. I feel like we were like brother

1327
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: sister in a past life or something, because he just

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00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: feels like family. And ever since then, we've just been

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00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: writing together. I think that was three years ago, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It is stuff like that where I

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: look back and I'm like, I thought I had it

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00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: figured out writing wise before I met Tofer and not

1333
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: that like he's made me the writer I am. But

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: all the things that happen past the point where you

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00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: thought you were ready is how you actually get ready

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Speaker 1: for a moment, I think. And so I'm like, it

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00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: can take another year, that's fine with me, but I'm

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00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm like getting ready for the moment. You know this.

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Speaker 3: What's funny is in five years, you're gonna look back

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 3: and go and I thought, I know what I was

1341
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: talking about, fib, but you should always be like that.

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I.

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00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: Saw some quote. I don't I'm not gonna say the

1344
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: quote right, but it was like, your art isn't real

1345
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: enough if you're not embarrassed by it a year later.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly like I hate watching listening to anything I've

1347
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: ever done. I won't be watching the because I'm good.

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01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: No, it makes me cringe if I watch like even

1349
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: something old of me on TV from a year two

1350
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: years ago, but then I can then I appreciate that

1351
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: because that means that I feel like I must have

1352
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: grown beyond what that is.

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't want to be the person that's

1354
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: like I killed that every time. I mean sometimes you're

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: like I always.

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01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 3: Want to kill it right then, but like a year later,

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: I should be like, you know what, I'm better than

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01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: that now.

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01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I should be that way.

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: That's my goal always. I'm trying to only be competitive

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: with myself.

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: Nowadays, Yeah, I wish that would my goal.

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: I still want to kill everybody. There's some people I'm

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01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: just like I got. I'm not going to mention any

1365
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: names here. I would tell you off off, Mike, But

1366
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: I got a certain artist called the request line this

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01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 3: morning to fight.

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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Me, to fight you, to be like he's pissed.

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01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: No, no to me, he was pissed at something. I

1370
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 3: like that accurate, Yeah, I mean fight.

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01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: He didn't want to.

1372
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: He probably would have come to punch me in the

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01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: It's well known to Yeah, I don't have a great

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 3: relationship with them, and we've him and we've publicly not

1375
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 3: had a great relationship we've gone at huh, I bet

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: you don't give me give me one letter in the

1377
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 3: first name.

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't even said, don't do first letter. Y oh no, no, no,

1379
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: we had at different that's a funny.

1380
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 3: Story, and that's a great that's an awesome story.

1381
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: No, No, this person is like current current ish.

1382
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you rafter and you might even be friends

1383
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: with them, and that's okay.

1384
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not, Mike, you think, I don't think so.

1385
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't think she is either. She's too cool.

1386
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: But I this person had done some things that I

1387
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: did not feel were I don't like how some things

1388
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: were handled professionally, but they were personally professional, meaning that

1389
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: he dick me over in a way that and then

1390
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: no apology and then just like we're gonna a.

1391
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: Total blowoff, like it was no respect.

1392
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say it was a very and I might

1393
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: have been on stage made some jokes that were quite funny,

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: and then they may have come back, and they might

1395
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: have come back at me on social media and I

1396
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: might So it's we've gone back and forth and I

1397
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: said yesterday on the show, and we can uh bleep

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: this part, Mike. I'm just gonna say for context, and

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: we'll end with this because I could do this for

1400
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: two hours, so you just like talk about stuff. I

1401
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: also have people here, and I've been here now long.

1402
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: I've been here longer than you. I'm older than you.

1403
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: But I had a very similar experience in getting here

1404
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: and being a bit different and going through the process

1405
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: of people not understanding me at all. Yes, and I'm like,

1406
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm pretty nice and like I'm I'm kind.

1407
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Of cool and I'm not going to make you understand me.

1408
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right.

1409
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: And so I was like, I'm not I'm just decided

1410
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be friends with any artists because

1411
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: I want to always be able to say my opinion.

1412
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: Like that was my point. Don't want to be friends

1413
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 3: with no one. I don't trust them anyway. No artists

1414
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 3: are I can be friends with. However, there were a

1415
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 3: few that I'm like, they're like my best friends because

1416
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: they wore me down and I had to start to realize,

1417
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: you know what, I can't think everybody's a douchebag.

1418
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's good to be skeptical.

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm totally a skeptical yeah, all the time. But there's

1420
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: a few that have broken through where I'm like, they're

1421
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 3: really great people, so I would like to encourage you

1422
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: have a few.

1423
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: It's not like I have a few.

1424
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: In the industry's weird though, because you never quite know

1425
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 3: what's up with them, Like what I just felt like

1426
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: somebody was using me for something.

1427
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: They are right until you get to that point where

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: they are like we're just humans.

1429
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: Right, or they're they have I'll be very general, they

1430
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: have more than I do in this area, so they

1431
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: don't need me, Like that was a big deal.

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably nice.

1433
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 3: Like one of my dearest friends not a bullet, take

1434
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: a really strong pellet for.

1435
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: Is Brett Eldridge.

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01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: He's super anxiety written like I am. We're totally weirdos

1437
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: we get scared of him. Tickets on ons that were like,

1438
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: are you being going to sell to anybody? Like, well,

1439
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: they like us tomorrow, but I wouldn't, you know, But

1440
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: like I trust that guy.

1441
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1442
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: I got a couple of those, So I hope you

1443
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: have a couple of those, because you need a couple

1444
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 3: of those.

1445
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: I do. I've lost a few, but you get one.

1446
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: And my point with Brett was he didn't need me.

1447
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: He had so many more he doesn't need he needs nothing.

1448
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: From me except friendship.

1449
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: And that's what it should be about.

1450
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.

1451
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: Though it's not.

1452
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't even try to reader Mike and they're.

1453
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: Sitting Okay, So here's what I want to say. Instagram

1454
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: at Harder Faith, TikTok at Carter Faith. All right, the

1455
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: aftermath it's on ten twelve, So one two Jennifer March, April, May,

1456
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: jun July, Augustber October. So Mike, when this comes out,

1457
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: it won't be October twelve yet, is it?

1458
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: No? Not yet? Okay, so week before so in like

1459
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: a week, Yes, we'll try. I know the aftermath. I've

1460
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: not heard it aftermath.

1461
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: So that will be out. You're out doing shows. You

1462
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: do some Carly stuff, some Midland stuff, You're doing.

1463
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: Some loot grime stuff this fall that'll be announced, and

1464
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: just festivals, random stuff.

1465
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: Do you have merch?

1466
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm making merch because I love merch.

1467
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say too, that's a great

1468
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: way to support an artist that you like if they're

1469
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 3: not headlining shows, is to buy their merch.

1470
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: Yes, please buy my merch I'm going to bring in.

1471
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: When she makes it. Please buy her merch.

1472
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: It'll be cute, I promise.

1473
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want it. Then I needed likely no

1474
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: not ugly, no like next no, no like normal, straight

1475
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: to ugly.

1476
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: Right.

1477
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want it cute.

1478
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, definitely, we'll make it at your face

1479
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: ugly it is.

1480
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: I really enjoy you. Yeah, you really enjoy you too.

1481
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: That's really cool. Yeah, that's really cool. And I'm rooting

1482
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: for you.

1483
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 3: And whenever you're ready ready, like and it's that you're

1484
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: you guys are going because you've been on.

1485
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: The show, but but that doesn't count.

1486
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: Whenever it's like real time and you're like, we're taking

1487
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: this to whatever you're up immediately perfect, so.

1488
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: You will be there. I will.

1489
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: I will make sure of it, or I will cancel

1490
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: you from this town because I have that power. No,

1491
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: if I don't, this not be half dead. All right,

1492
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: Carter Faith, and go at Carter Faith. Good to see Carter,

1493
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: Thanks for

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01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 4: Coming by, Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production