WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: Bear Chested Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Kabbooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard starts right now in.

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<v Speaker 1>The air everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mather and Danny g

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<v Speaker 3>Radio A Happy Saturday to you. The twenty ninth day

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<v Speaker 3>of November. Rivalry weekend continuing in college football today, watched

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<v Speaker 3>what I watched out with Texas Texas A and M

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<v Speaker 3>watched a little bit of that game on Friday, the

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippi Mississippi Steak and the Egg Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched that. In the NFL, we'll start with the NF.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get be a very sporty fifth hour podcast, A

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<v Speaker 3>very sporty fifth hour podcast. We've got on this one,

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<v Speaker 3>disco Hulkemania, and ain't no fun if the.

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<v Speaker 1>Homies can't have none.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll combine all of these things together, and we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to meditate, because what else are you supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to do on a Saturday, But we'll start with this

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<v Speaker 3>in Philadelphia, PA, the Delaware Valley, the et A, G

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<v Speaker 3>L E S.

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles su c K suck Suck suck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they got smashed by the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Stump Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>Bears getting it done yesterday on Black Friday, a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four to fifteen final, as Chicago converting almost sixty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of their third down plays, They were two for three

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<v Speaker 3>in the red zone, and they win a game where

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams was terrible because they had multiple running backs

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<v Speaker 3>that went over one hundred and twenty five yards. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like a throwback for the Bears. As Caleb Williams

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<v Speaker 3>was terrible. It didn't matter. The Bears won anyway in

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<v Speaker 3>dominating fashion. Their defense, which had been so bad against

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<v Speaker 3>the run, held Sequon Barkley down. Of course, he only

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<v Speaker 3>had thirteen attempts in that game. But don't bury the lead.

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<v Speaker 3>My man won't bear the lead. So the Eagles coach

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Sirianni. Did you see what he said after the game? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So Sirianni said that while they will evaluate everything in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 3>he will be staying with offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo as

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<v Speaker 3>the play caller, Sirianni saying, quote, this is the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>team sport there is and it is never about one person.

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<v Speaker 1>Close quote. So that is a good jumping off point.

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<v Speaker 3>Let us discuss the question, can you explain why Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Sirianni refused to consider even the thought of changing the

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles play caller?

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<v Speaker 1>So on this one, it's rather simple, right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like saying, hey, listen, we really got to

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<v Speaker 3>clean the house. I want to clean the entire house. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to clean the entire house. That's great, let's

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<v Speaker 3>clean the entire house. Okay, we're gonna do it, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're not touching the kitchen, the bathroom or the living room.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to do that. But what you said

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted to clean the entire house, It's like, well

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of important.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just don't want to do it. What are

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<v Speaker 1>we even doing? This is football spin class, is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's on the table, Every possibility is on the table

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<v Speaker 3>in Philly except the one thing, the one thing that

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<v Speaker 3>clearly needs to actually be on the table, which makes this,

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<v Speaker 3>to use one of our classic mallarisms, it's coach speak.

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<v Speaker 3>Cotton candy like you're get in the summer at the

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<v Speaker 3>State Fair, get that cotton candy and it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, it's a big. Look at that, what a

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<v Speaker 1>deal like?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you're like, well, it's just spung sugar and

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<v Speaker 3>it looks big, but there's no substance. Philadelphia has been

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<v Speaker 3>outscored forty eight to fifteen in the last six quarters

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<v Speaker 3>since they blew that twenty one to nothing lead to

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Cowboys. They got thrown into the wood chipper

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<v Speaker 3>by the Bears, of all things, the Chicago Bears, who

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<v Speaker 3>are now nine to three on the season, although most

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<v Speaker 3>of those wins have been nail biers, not this game

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<v Speaker 3>on Black Friday. And now Nick Sirianni's got that everything's fine,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry. He's got that look on his face. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got that kind of grin thing going on, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>hosting HGTV and advice from the upper balcony. Here, buddy,

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<v Speaker 3>but it bety. This ain't a renovation show. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>we're not renovating. We're doing the demo, is what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>The Bears ran the ball like they had resurrected Walter

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<v Speaker 3>Payton Sweetness in a secret basement lab somewhere somewhere, far

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<v Speaker 3>far away. Forty seven carries two hundred and eighty one

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<v Speaker 3>yards for the Chicago Bears, a couple of rushing touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 3>They had two guys go over one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five yards, averaging six yards per rush. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>a defensive front in Philly. That was an open toll booth.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck. You couldn't You couldn't have planned it worse

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<v Speaker 3>for the Philadelphia defense in this game because Camvib Williams

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<v Speaker 3>was not very good. He completed less than fifty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of his passes, he had an interception in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not very good and it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the Eagles defensively allowed the Chicago Bears to run

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<v Speaker 3>it right down their throat and it was ridiculous. You

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<v Speaker 3>could have driven the Malard Moobe two point zero through

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<v Speaker 3>those running lanes without slowing down. And then you also

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<v Speaker 3>have Jalen Hurts for Philadelphia right now, He's not Superman.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Clark Kent without the glasses, and he's just nothing special.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just a dude, not the dude. He's just a dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Your garden variety mortal quarterback, quarterbacking with practice squad results

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<v Speaker 3>right now for Jalen Hurts, in fact, what's my evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go last four games. Jalen Hurts has averaged six

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<v Speaker 3>and a half yards per past seven is average. He's

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<v Speaker 3>below average, completing fifty nine percent of his passes that

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<v Speaker 3>ain't good, has a passer rating of eighty five. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not elite. That's Marriott Lobby is what that is. You're

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<v Speaker 3>in the Marriott Lobby. Quarterback club is what you are.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's is it panic at the disco? It's panic

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<v Speaker 3>at the Batulo disco. The offensive coordinator and you know

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<v Speaker 3>they had high hopes. They had high hopes and now

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<v Speaker 3>they're living the death of a Bachelor champion is what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing here. And Nick Siriani another example. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>is not leading his team. He's riding shotgun with no GPS.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a show pony who needs a perfect weather situation

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<v Speaker 3>to succeed. And now I want to say perfect weather,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean everything's gonna be right, relatively healthy, getting along

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<v Speaker 3>with each other. You throw a thunderstorm in there, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you throw a thunderstorm in there. And Nick Siriani is

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<v Speaker 3>the guy hiding behind the vending machine. He's sucking his thumb,

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<v Speaker 3>is what he's doing. And you know what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is it's the Malard Milk Carton moment, is what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. You look at the Eagles offense, and we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen them a lot. They're the defending, reigning champion and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. But you look at the Eagles offense, you say,

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<v Speaker 3>have you seen this unit?

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<v Speaker 1>The last last time we saw them really clicking.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Week eight? Was Week eight, And reward has been

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<v Speaker 3>offered if you find the Eagles offense now. Nick Sirianni

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<v Speaker 3>says they're evaluating everything. But again, for those of you

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<v Speaker 3>in the back of the room that are a little late,

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<v Speaker 3>guess what if he doesn't start evaluating Sirianni the play calling,

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<v Speaker 3>the owner will start evaluating him. So this is not

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<v Speaker 3>fly Egles fly on the road to Victor Ree anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this is fry egles fry. Because you can't handle

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<v Speaker 3>success the Eagles fan base booing them and emptying out

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<v Speaker 3>all those people in Philadelphia that mocked the Dodger fans

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<v Speaker 3>for leaving early. That stadium was empty by the time

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<v Speaker 3>Al Michaels signed off on that broadcast, it was empty.

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<v Speaker 3>With the Capitol League now flipping the page. Here Part

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<v Speaker 3>two of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Hour Malor monologue.

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<v Speaker 3>Extensive edition of The Fifth Hour with Me and Danny

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<v Speaker 3>g So. After the Bears upset the Eagles in convincing

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<v Speaker 3>fashion and it was not really all that close. The

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<v Speaker 3>Bears were in control late in the game, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the Eagles go down, we talked about what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>with Nick Siohanni. But on the side of the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>first year coach Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson performing one of

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<v Speaker 3>his electrifying locker room hype speeches become a weekly ritual,

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<v Speaker 3>always recorded for social media, and it was one of

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<v Speaker 3>those moments that leaves you wondering how he has a voice. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>but he added a different twist, a little funny twist

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<v Speaker 3>to this week. I don't know if you saw it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, when as he was giving his postgame speech,

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<v Speaker 3>he ripped off his shirt in what seemed to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>First for the team.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall my Ditka ever doing that back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day, or any of the other Bears coaches we've had.

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<v Speaker 3>So Indeed, as Ben Johnson was working up to a lather,

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<v Speaker 3>get himself worked into a tizzy, he did indeed pull

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<v Speaker 3>his shirt over his head.

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<v Speaker 1>The players around him are opted.

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<v Speaker 3>The locker room was howling, excited cheers and streams. The

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<v Speaker 3>bear chested coach right in the middle of the locker

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<v Speaker 3>room and.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at that groove and it was like, oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>And then came the standard good, better, best rallying cry

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<v Speaker 3>from Ben Johnson and just a little less dressed than

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<v Speaker 3>he normally is. Now that postgame reaction has been well

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<v Speaker 3>dissected since the Bears game ended with the Eagles. I

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<v Speaker 3>know Lucky Tony very excited. The Bears are kicking some

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<v Speaker 3>ass right now. So the fact that the Bears coach

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson decided to become a Chippendale's dancer, that is

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<v Speaker 3>a good jumping off point. So let us discuss the question.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually came from p one Mike who emailed me

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<v Speaker 3>late last night and Mike said, hey, what about this?

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<v Speaker 3>And his question was, did the Chicago coach Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>jinks the Bears season with his shirt off celebration? I

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<v Speaker 3>have a satin night john On all right, So to

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<v Speaker 3>say that the Bears jinx their entire season because Ben

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson decided that he wanted to take his shirt off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go no way on that. Absolutely not. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a curse. It is not. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is civic service for the good people of Chicago. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't jinx the season when you're getting a free hot dog.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've learned since that game ended yesterday that the

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<v Speaker 3>mom and pop Wiener's Circle shop to restaurant Wiener Circle

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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago, it's on the north side, knocked the part

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<v Speaker 3>of town and they literally promised three winners if Ben

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson went shirtless, and he's now gone shirtless. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a curse. That is public charity is what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's community outreach. That's the Windy City stimulus package. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't jinx a season, you ignite this season. This

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<v Speaker 3>was hul Comania. It was hull Comania territory, the late

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<v Speaker 3>great Hall Cogan, the guy ripped the shirt the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>coach like he was about to go tag team with

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<v Speaker 3>macho man and slide into a slim gym guy and

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing missing was the right index finger to

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<v Speaker 3>the ear, the classic Hull Cogan.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you gesture.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want superstition and you want karma and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. That's fine. I'm not against those things. They

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<v Speaker 3>make for good talk radio. You win football games, though,

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<v Speaker 3>and this big a movement, Capital M becomes a movement,

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<v Speaker 3>Capital M energy, full frontal commitment, and Johnson is all

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson's got this good, better, best speech which has

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<v Speaker 3>turned into a bit of a cultural ritual in the

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<v Speaker 3>football world. It came, we are told, from his high

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<v Speaker 3>school days at AC Reynolds, and now the Bears at

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<v Speaker 3>the pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Level are living it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like their pledge of allegiance good, better, best,

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<v Speaker 3>never let it rest. They're chanting it like they're about

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<v Speaker 3>to stampede, similar to the wildebeast in the Lion King.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's working. They're hitting on all cylinders. And

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<v Speaker 3>when the Bears win, like they did yesterday on Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson conducts that speech like he he's a conductor

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<v Speaker 3>at the Chicago Symphony. And when they lose, he risked

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<v Speaker 3>becoming a viral me. Remember the Chargers coach Brandon Staley

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<v Speaker 3>was doing yoga stretches before kickoff and they recorded it

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<v Speaker 3>and Brian my branded Staley rather has really not gotten

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<v Speaker 3>any any serious interest as a head coach because of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a thin line between motivation and mockery. They

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<v Speaker 3>both start with M and O and after that they go.

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<v Speaker 1>Their separate ways.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Ben Johnson's walking walking this motivation and mockery

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a tightrope and he's the tightrope artist over Lake,

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan in a blizzard. So at this moment, this was

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<v Speaker 3>I file this one in the basket. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the basket, what was in the basket? If you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the basket, I file this one in the

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<v Speaker 3>shirtless swagger basket.

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<v Speaker 1>This was blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Collar Glenn, blue collar glamour. This was the full embodiment

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<v Speaker 3>of every Chicago construction worker who eats a beef sandwich

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<v Speaker 3>at seven in the morning and then for lunch, but

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<v Speaker 3>they have lunch at like ten thirty. They have the

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<v Speaker 3>deep dish Chicago pizza and then they have dessert. They

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<v Speaker 3>have that great popcorn, which tree in Chicago knows all about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the move here. So listen, this was what the

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<v Speaker 3>Bears want to become. Was it a little cheesy, a

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<v Speaker 3>little corny shure, But it's fun. They're winning, And as

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<v Speaker 3>long as you're winning, the whole stadium is going to

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<v Speaker 3>get bear chested in January at Soldier Field, it'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the Lambeau meets Marty Gras scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Frostbite is the free giveaway meets euphoria, which is also

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<v Speaker 3>a giveaway should you actually get into the stadium. So

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<v Speaker 3>this guy is a man of the people, man of

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<v Speaker 3>the people. He's not coaching football leading a revolution of

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<v Speaker 3>pork passion and pigskin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's PPP.

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<v Speaker 3>And you don't jinx your season for Michael and the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you think, oh my god, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did You don't jinx your season when the team's laughing,

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<v Speaker 3>bonding and celebray good times.

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<v Speaker 1>They're celebrating good times. You don't ruin the magic when.

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<v Speaker 3>You're leaning in to the abracadabra, the hocus pocus. That

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<v Speaker 3>locker room was not tense. It was alive with energy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was alive with energy, and players respond to that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not analytics, And no, you shouldn't have done that.

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<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't have played that guy because of the analytics.

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<v Speaker 3>This is humans being bros, humans being bros. And let's

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<v Speaker 3>be real, Chicago has not had this kind of charisma.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they got to the Super Bowl with the

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<v Speaker 3>Rex Grossman, but they've not had this kind of suit

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<v Speaker 3>of charisma since Mike Ditka removed his his with two

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<v Speaker 3>fingers in the old stop at on National TV. And

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<v Speaker 3>that is personality football. We just saw the moment in

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<v Speaker 3>which the Bears coach Ben Johnson, good old Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 3>became an internet legend. Johnson is throwing gasoline on the bonfire.

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<v Speaker 3>And if the fire gets too big, okay, fine, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want it to get too big. It shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 3>too big. Better to burn out, right than fade away

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<v Speaker 3>you want to burn out, and worst case scenarios like hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>at least you got a free hot dog. At least

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<v Speaker 3>she got a free hot dog. Congratulations, We're happy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So Ben Johnson trying to feed Chicago one shirtless video

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<v Speaker 3>clip at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, we head back to college football. Old Miss head

0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 3>coach Lane Kiffen expected to make a decision later today.

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<v Speaker 3>He confronted a reporter someone named Ben not me, Ben Garrett,

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<v Speaker 3>not Ben Gay, Ben Garrett of something called the Old

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<v Speaker 3>Miss Spirit, which sounds like it's a riveting magazine newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff. So it's very very very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, So Lane Keivin confronted this guy regarding some offensive

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<v Speaker 3>remarks made on his podcast amid the rumors that Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Kivin's going to leave Oxford for Baton Rouge. The moment

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<v Speaker 3>happened just minutes after Old Miss had closed its regular

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<v Speaker 3>season with a thirty eight nineteen nineteen victory over Mississippi

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<v Speaker 3>State the Egg Bowl. The game, there was a fight

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<v Speaker 3>in the thing and right there boom and so there

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<v Speaker 3>are they locked in? Are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they a playoff team? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The Rebels, who were seventh in the college football playoff

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<v Speaker 3>ranking are now eleven and one. Now later today, at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, probably earlier in the day than late, Lane

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Kiffin is going to take out the trash a little

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday news conference and the expectation is that Lane will

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<v Speaker 3>take advantage of that escape portal and he gone, He's

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<v Speaker 3>out of here, see you later, bye bye. So that

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<v Speaker 3>is a good jumping off point. Everyone's japping about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let us discuss the question. Here's the question. What stood

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<v Speaker 3>out to you about Lane Kiffin's hulla balloo with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Miss reporter?

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<v Speaker 3>All of this over social media presence and whatnot. So

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<v Speaker 3>the question here is what stood out to you about

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Kiffin's hulla balloo with the the Old Miss Reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've got ourselves here a real Southern fried soap opera,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is one that did not come with commercial breaks.

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<v Speaker 3>All miss regular season did not end when the clock

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<v Speaker 3>hit zero zero zero zero to infinity and beyond, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got you've got this back and forth thing

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<v Speaker 3>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's freaking great.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely love it. It is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the regular season, as we say, it's over

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<v Speaker 3>for Old Miss. But this is this is cinema. You

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<v Speaker 3>got Lane Kiffin there, visor on white hoodie, surrounded by

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<v Speaker 3>five fully uniformed Mississippi State troopers like he was John Gottie,

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.679
<v Speaker 3>and he spotted the reporter and decided, you know what,

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be mean, Gene Oakland, I'm gonna be Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>the Marain Heat and I'm gonna do a wrestling promo

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<v Speaker 3>from back in the day. And as the reporter, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy Ben Garrett from something called The Old Miss Spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not sure what that is, but the kid Froz

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<v Speaker 3>and I've actually been there. I relate to this story

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<v Speaker 3>because I've had this happen to me where I've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>confronted and when you're a young enough guy, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know what to do. You're like, oh oh oh boy,

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 3>uh oh yeah. So yet you have that And he

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<v Speaker 3>did freeze like he was this guy Ben Garrett, the

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<v Speaker 3>reporter froze like he was a wood frog in winter

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<v Speaker 3>hibernation mode, shut down sequence, initiated all that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you respart. No fight, no pushback, no quick thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of puddles, a lot of puddles out

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<v Speaker 3>there for Lane Kiffin. And then, like so many do today,

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<v Speaker 3>the reporter ran not to the tunnel. He didn't run

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<v Speaker 3>to try to find a number to apologize to.

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<v Speaker 1>The so and so.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>What sparked this a line from this guy's podcast about

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Kiffin. The guy he gets does some podcasts and said,

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<v Speaker 3>can't turn a hoe into a housewife. How hose rather

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<v Speaker 3>hose don't act right?

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<v Speaker 1>So pece a while. Lane was offended by this. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, it's not just any kind of jabber. That is

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<v Speaker 3>a direct lyric from Snoop Doggy Dog and Nate dogg

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<v Speaker 3>the classic West Coast anthem. Ain't no fun if the

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<v Speaker 3>homies can't have none. So there is that, uh. And

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 3>it was a nineties staple, is what it was. But

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Kiffen heard it differently. Good old Lane, stay eating y'all. Lane,

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<v Speaker 3>he heard it differently. He got some word from someone

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<v Speaker 3>that they called him a ho. And moments after the

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 3>egg Bowl win, there and some are saying the biggest

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 3>egg Bowl win over arrival in their rivalry game in

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Old Miss history. So Lane storms right to the locker

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<v Speaker 3>room and then he got distracted and says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>want to walk in here and call me a hoe, pointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Towards the locker room. We'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that cartoon bubble above my head, I stood

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<v Speaker 3>up and I applauded again. Content that is cinema is

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<v Speaker 3>what that is, and it's going to be old news.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I brought this up and I brought up

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<v Speaker 3>the Friday NFL game is one of the advantags you

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<v Speaker 3>have doing a podcast every day is you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to worry about trying to squeeze everything in and because

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>every day is unique, every day is unique. But we

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 3>have a unique setup here where we are able to

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<v Speaker 3>give you content that other shows cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you cannot give you. It's just just the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we put this thing together here on the

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<v Speaker 3>fifth hour to embrace this because we know we're not

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to really enjoy it with other

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 3>things going on over the course of the weekend. But

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<v Speaker 3>by confronting the reporter, keep just again keeping the real.

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<v Speaker 3>By confronting the reporter, Lane Kiffn did not just respond,

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 3>He gave that fledgling podcast a free Times Square, billboard,

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 3>National Audio, Advertising and television, Old school Media, all those

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 3>big media companies. Before the show, maybe seventeen to twenty

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 3>people had heard of the podcast. One of them was

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 3>probably the host mom, another was a cousin, two others

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 3>were third cousins. And then there was a stray raccoon

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 3>that was quietly chewing through some.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of pipe. I don't know what that was. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is the new Moxie two point zero.

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks to Lane again for going professional wrestling at

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<v Speaker 3>the podium. This kid's just been given billboard placement in

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<v Speaker 3>midtown Manhattan without having to pay a nickel or a dime,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 3>not a dimeback, not a dime and that's the irony.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffin meant to bury the reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, he marked it, marketed him, voted him, and turned

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 3>him into a trending topic. He did, in the words

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 3>of a disgraced infomercial ceo, there is no such thing

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 3>as bad publicity, just billboards in Times Square you did

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<v Speaker 3>not save to pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone clearly.

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<v Speaker 3>Has an axe to grind with Lane Kiff and has

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of hatchet jobs on Lane, a lot

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 3>of body blow, body blow, body blow, body blow and

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. So listen, Lane, he is what his

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 3>resume says he is. You look at his Wikipedia page

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's not great.

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not great. And it's like, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, there's no such thing as bad publicity, just billboards,

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 3>as we said, And and someone clearly whispered it into

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<v Speaker 3>the year. And I don't know what what was whispberd,

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 3>but one of those Hey, hey, Lane, man, did you

0:25:58.560 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 3>hear what they said?

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<v Speaker 1>You did you hear?

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I No, I didn't hear what they said about me.

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Well I'll wait till you hear this.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 3>And then then Lane kiffn lifelong football gypsy, by the way,

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 3>notorious program hopper hoppity hop being no mad with a

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 3>headset and he's got a losing memory. It'll be close

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 3>to home. Lane Kiffin allergic to staying put. It's another

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 3>thing you learned about Alane Kiffin coach team. There's a

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of movement, and he bails like a tenant who

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 3>found out that rent is going up, and so you

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 3>just kind of vacate the premises.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's the reputation.

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Now as far as the whole remark as we can

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 3>break that down, that is just gasoline thrown on a

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>coaching fire that's already been burning for twenty years. Fresno State,

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 3>USC Alabama a FAU now old miss and next a

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<v Speaker 3>mystery team.

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>We love the mystery team. We live for the mystery team.

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>The coaching carousel goes round and round and round and

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>round and round and round and around.

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 3>And will they find a job when it all stops?

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 1>All stops?

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 3>And we'll see the coaching carousel in its natural habitat.

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like a dessert to a lizard. It's just lizards love.

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 3>They love desserts, they do. But here's the kicker. This

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 3>whole moment tells you something about college football. If you

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't already know in modern times, coaches have egos the size.

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Of SEC stadiums. All right.

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>The reporters, though, they do need to do better. That

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 3>reporter should have answered back to Lane Kiffen with one

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 3>line and one line only, don't hate the player, Lane

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 3>gotta hate the game. That would have been a walk off,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 3>a mic drop, that's the SoundBite for social media. Instead

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 3>he said nothing. And so what we did is we

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<v Speaker 3>just filled in the blanks. That's what we're doing on

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<v Speaker 3>the Fifth Hour podcast. We're filling in the blanks. But

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom liner, Lane Kiffin isn't mad at the reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>It just looked like he was mad at the reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>He's mad at his reputation. Because if you don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about your reputation, if there's no validity to it, then

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<v Speaker 3>who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>But he obviously cares. He knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the podcast, whatever the name of it, it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't wind him up. It exposed Pete Carroll. It exposed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Carroll exposed Lane Kiffin, not Pete Carroll, but it

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<v Speaker 3>exposed Lane Kiffin right because he you know, he might

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<v Speaker 3>confront LSU boosters later today. There's a lot of chatter

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<v Speaker 3>overnight that who knows what's gonna happen when the sun rises,

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<v Speaker 3>but that Lane's gonna leave for LSU and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if he leaves, if he does leave, old miss,

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<v Speaker 3>that line about the hoe will be child's play to

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<v Speaker 3>the digital lynch mob. I promise you beach all right,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get out on that. Have a wonderful Saturday here,

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy the holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Weekend here as you're right in the middle of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Got another day today and tomorrow, and then back to

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<v Speaker 3>the salt mines, back to the sweatshop, and as Danny

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<v Speaker 3>would say, later, skater asta pasta boom shaka laka.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, next time, next time, my Felacia