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Speaker 1: twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ninety one. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break. We're life from the
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Speaker 1: it is our job to get you guys ready for
Speaker 1: Jacksonville versus Dallas. We'll get into some different topics regarding
Speaker 1: the match up. We will also get some fan questions.
Speaker 1: We got a whole list of them lined up to
Speaker 1: ask these guys around a lot of different topics about
Speaker 1: this team. Let's start first though, with Mike McCarthy. He
Speaker 1: was talking a little bit about about the He was
Speaker 1: asked questions about the offensive line, and they are questions
Speaker 1: about where who's going to line up player and one
Speaker 1: thing he mentioned was yesterday in practice they rotated. They
Speaker 1: had five different rotation combinations on the offensive line, and
Speaker 1: then he also said they're not there yet. Regarding lining
Speaker 1: up with just five guys for an entire game, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. What do you guys thoughts
Speaker 1: about kind of where they are and what you expect
Speaker 1: to see this weekend with the offensive line. I think
Speaker 1: that I think that the continuity part has kind of
Speaker 1: been thrown out the window a little bit because they've
Speaker 1: had to They've had to work so many different combinations,
Speaker 1: and so it also speaks volumes for the job Joe
Speaker 1: Philbins done as an old line coach, but also the versatility.
Speaker 1: These guys have flexibility to go in there and play
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: that they're practicing this way because they know that they
Speaker 1: have to do it at times, and also because they can.
Speaker 1: They're they're allowed. I mean that these players are good
Speaker 1: enough to do that. So as for where they're gonna
Speaker 1: line up, all that, Brian and Amber handled where they're
Speaker 1: gonna line up, how we know, But I mean, I
Speaker 1: think they're getting it. They're getting it ready, and Jerry's
Speaker 1: on the radio right now talking about I mean Jerry,
Speaker 1: Jerry talked about it that Tyrn Smith could play some
Speaker 1: right tackle. That's where all this is going, and that's
Speaker 1: what you know that nobody wants to throw that out there,
Speaker 1: but Jerry is saying it, and that that you know,
Speaker 1: Tyrant has the ability to play left tackle, he could
Speaker 1: play right tackle, and that's just another name in the
Speaker 1: mix of who could be playing on the right side.
Speaker 1: I think yesterday when Mike McCarthy was pressed with the
Speaker 1: question from Todd Archer, that he didn't really want to
Speaker 1: answer the question, and I think that you started kind
Speaker 1: of feeling that maybe there was something up there. Um.
Speaker 1: I think also too, from things that I'm hearing inside
Speaker 1: the organization, that that Tyrn Smith went to the coaches
Speaker 1: after the injury, you know, to steal and said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to help any way we can here.
Speaker 1: And I think that was a big, big play on
Speaker 1: Tyrant's part and the coaches part, you know, and they don't.
Speaker 1: We talked about this yesterday even you know, just even
Speaker 1: throwing it around. You know, it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: some speculation, was that that you really didn't want Jason
Speaker 1: Peters to probably play sixty five seventy snaps. So here
Speaker 1: you have Tyrant Smith willing, you know, seeing what's going on,
Speaker 1: seeing what potentially the future is at your left tackle spot,
Speaker 1: and you know, saying it for the team like, hey,
Speaker 1: I haven't been available all year. You know, you guys
Speaker 1: have won ten games with me not being around, But hey,
Speaker 1: if I have to play right tackle, if I could
Speaker 1: help us, there be willing to do that. And then
Speaker 1: it also helps Jason Peters. And then it also if
Speaker 1: you get into a situation where ball can be involved.
Speaker 1: And again it's one of those things where you know
Speaker 1: it might be the score will be dictating or the
Speaker 1: flow of the game will dictate if you want to
Speaker 1: play him at all. So yeah, I mean this is
Speaker 1: you know, this is one of those things where they,
Speaker 1: like Nick says, they've got all these players that they
Speaker 1: can move around and see where they're at. And it
Speaker 1: used to be very much like, oh, it's about continuity.
Speaker 1: It's about same five guys. As you know, you don't
Speaker 1: want to mess with the continuity and all that this
Speaker 1: team's stumb in their nose and the face of that.
Speaker 1: Right now they're just saying, hey, we got all these guys.
Speaker 1: We got to figure out our guys and what combinations
Speaker 1: they can play in. Yeah, I really like the fact
Speaker 1: that they're trying out multiple combinations and not just going
Speaker 1: with one thing and just kind of seeing what works better.
Speaker 1: And they have different plans going into the game, and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people seem to be very
Speaker 1: very excited to see what that looks like having Tyron
Speaker 1: on that side, and by doing so, you technically keep
Speaker 1: your best five out there without having to really shuffle
Speaker 1: too many pieces. And I was thinking, I'm still not
Speaker 1: a huge fan of having him on the right side
Speaker 1: because just concerned about injuries and I and if anyone
Speaker 1: can do it, it's him. Like he's he's a pro,
Speaker 1: He's one of the best out there. He knows the game,
Speaker 1: he knows what to do, so I have trust in
Speaker 1: him being a beast. But and a beast is a
Speaker 1: beast anywhere you put him. But it does affect the
Speaker 1: type of environment you're at. And I was thinking this
Speaker 1: morning while I was listening to the fan and just
Speaker 1: listening to McCarthy talk about it a little bit. Um
Speaker 1: I went back to Sack Martin and how he moved position.
Speaker 1: But then he led me to remember, and well he
Speaker 1: stayed on the same side, like he moved to tackle,
Speaker 1: but he was still on the same side. So I'm
Speaker 1: just so I'm one of the few I think that
Speaker 1: that is kind of concerned about what could happen. Hopefully
Speaker 1: nothing injury wise happens, but I am looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: But I am concerned. And it seemed kind of go
Speaker 1: ahead and talk. Let me look. I did a poll
Speaker 1: on so almost yesterday and I did the different combinations,
Speaker 1: three possibilities of switching around people and hold on, let
Speaker 1: me find what the fans seem to like. I will
Speaker 1: tell you this one thing, and Nicky and I were
Speaker 1: talking about this upstairs a little earlier. One of the
Speaker 1: things I would love to see is not just tiring
Speaker 1: on the right side. I would love to see, especially
Speaker 1: if this game, if Ferguson can't play, when they lined
Speaker 1: up in their jumbo where they normally have four tight
Speaker 1: ends out there, I would love to see Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: at right tackle, with Zach Martinett at left I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, at right tackle, with Zach at right guard,
Speaker 1: and then with Peters as an eligible receiver right outside
Speaker 1: of Tyring. I would love to see that like that.
Speaker 1: To me, I look at that and say, you can't
Speaker 1: get third and short. If you can't pick up third
Speaker 1: and short like that, then what are you doing? Like
Speaker 1: you got three Hall of Famers sitting right there together
Speaker 1: and their only job is to maul whoever's in front
Speaker 1: of them. I'm going to bet on them every single time.
Speaker 1: So I think there's some really cool things you can
Speaker 1: do with this lineup with these guys, depending on where
Speaker 1: you want to line them up. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't think that they are even sticking to you.
Speaker 1: Gotta put them in one spot and leave them there.
Speaker 1: Like they've moved these guys around all season. They give
Speaker 1: them spells, they'll come in for a series. I think
Speaker 1: there are ways to do this, and I think there
Speaker 1: are ways to do this that may make a defense
Speaker 1: have to adjust to the variability of the different guy.
Speaker 1: They may line up at a different spot at a
Speaker 1: different time in a game. So what we posted on
Speaker 1: some Most Cowboys were three combinations and the results pretty
Speaker 1: much surprised me as to what fans kind of voted
Speaker 1: the most. And we had just to given anything we
Speaker 1: had for the first one, tyring McGovern and then on
Speaker 1: the other side, Jason Peters. The second one was Tyring
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith and then Jason Peters on the other side.
Speaker 1: Then the third one was Tyler Smith McGovern and then
Speaker 1: Tyring on the right side. Most people, fifty nine percent
Speaker 1: of the votes went to moving Tyler Smith to guard
Speaker 1: having tired on his left side, and then Jason Peters
Speaker 1: all the way to the right, which for me was
Speaker 1: surprising because port Connor mc gomer and getting kicked out
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem like it's kind of kind of
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what all the combinations that McCarthy
Speaker 1: has prepared. But I thought that that poll, the results
Speaker 1: of it was pretty interesting. Fans like names. I mean
Speaker 1: they like the names. And Tyler Smith is the first
Speaker 1: round pick. They didn't like him as a first round
Speaker 1: pick when he was a first round pick drafted, but
Speaker 1: now that he's here, he's a first round pick and
Speaker 1: so you know, and he's strong and he's done a
Speaker 1: good job, and so it's like, well, he could just
Speaker 1: move in and I may move everyone around. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised too by by that being the poll, But fans,
Speaker 1: that's what fans think of. They're like, all right, ill
Speaker 1: me my best guys. Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, first round pick, and then be honest, sorry,
Speaker 1: but who's playing well? You know he's playing well. We
Speaker 1: haven't really ever said that he that he got blown
Speaker 1: up on any play or bat snaps or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Like he is really played well. And last year when
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing wells because of the stuff we could
Speaker 1: really see. You know, I've never seen false starts on
Speaker 1: the center as much as I saw with him. He's
Speaker 1: cut that down. Shotguns have been good. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is actually moving people off the line. He's done a
Speaker 1: really good job. Ye let's talk about t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: What do we know about him? Is this a chance
Speaker 1: he's playing this weekend? Where where is he and his
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say absolutely, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's I think that's the case. I think they got
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out again. It comes down to,
Speaker 1: you know, we see what happens with James Washington and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. How many guys you can address, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean they've got all these guys now on the
Speaker 1: offensive line they have to think about. So it's gonna
Speaker 1: come down to numbers on you know, if in fact,
Speaker 1: that he could play. It sounds like to me, everything
Speaker 1: has been been super positive about him. You know, it's
Speaker 1: pro's pro kind of guy coming in, learning all the spots.
Speaker 1: And you're listen to Dak talk about him yesterday, He's like, man,
Speaker 1: it looks like he's fine for me. So, you know,
Speaker 1: and Dak's gonna say, Dak's always going to be positive.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that you know, t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: veteran guy, and you know he wants to play. He
Speaker 1: wants you know, he's he's sat out the whole year,
Speaker 1: So for an opportunity going to contribute, I think is
Speaker 1: something that they're they're welcoming, right. Yeah. And one thing
Speaker 1: to remember too about if Jake Ferguson doesn't play, and
Speaker 1: he's getting so late into the week here and not
Speaker 1: playing so from a concussion last week, that's not a spot.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that they will replace. I don't believe
Speaker 1: they will just say I gotta have my fourth tight end, right.
Speaker 1: So what happens is is you could have an extra
Speaker 1: receiver active this week that you didn't have before, or
Speaker 1: an extra lineman if you wanted to say, well to
Speaker 1: Derek's point about lining up with Peters and all those guys,
Speaker 1: you know how many backup Let's just say it's Ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, no, let's just say it's Peters
Speaker 1: on the right side, and then Tyrants the backup, which
Speaker 1: I've never said before, but so I just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: so Tyrants the backup, and then Josh Ball probably still
Speaker 1: be active, and then you need a guard. And I'm
Speaker 1: not getting into who it could be, but I mean
Speaker 1: we were watching it out there, and and and there's
Speaker 1: some guys on the practice squad that could get elevated,
Speaker 1: because I believe of Ante Collins is out of elevation.
Speaker 1: I think he is. Yeah, so so it might be
Speaker 1: and they have some other guys that they could bring
Speaker 1: in it, maybe like a backup guard, because I don't
Speaker 1: know who would be your backup guard. Someby Tyler Tyler Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you slide him in and you put those other two
Speaker 1: at time. I mean, yeah, if you if you're that's
Speaker 1: the way I would go. Yeah. But going back to
Speaker 1: t Y, I think something that surprises me, knowing he's
Speaker 1: been out this long that everybody players McCarthy, everybody that's
Speaker 1: been asked, they keep they've mentioned his speed and the
Speaker 1: way he runs. So that's exciting to hear that at
Speaker 1: this point he's been here like less than a week
Speaker 1: and he's in good shape and form and it's not
Speaker 1: getting out there. You know, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can get dehydrated in this weather, but but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, just like out of breath and just
Speaker 1: kind of being going back in football football form in shape.
Speaker 1: So that's that's very impressive to me to know that
Speaker 1: he's he's literally ready to go. Now, the thing to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on is is if he in fact
Speaker 1: has been has had enough time to learn all the
Speaker 1: routes and all the playbook and all that. But shape wise,
Speaker 1: he seems like he's he's fast and can move around
Speaker 1: pretty well. But the one thing I will say is,
Speaker 1: and we've seen the Cowboys do this with players, like
Speaker 1: when you don't have a training camp and he hasn't
Speaker 1: played all season, ram no matter what kind of shape
Speaker 1: he's in, they're still going to kind of have that
Speaker 1: ramp up period. So I expect it even if he's active,
Speaker 1: he's going to play a limited number of reps. They're
Speaker 1: just gonna get him out there a little bit. I
Speaker 1: would suspect and and just kind of ease him into
Speaker 1: this thing to ensure he doesn't get again. You're also
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who has a history of solf
Speaker 1: to so you gotta make sure you eat. Ramped him up,
Speaker 1: ramped him up slowly enough to where his body can
Speaker 1: acclimate without getting that hamstring or that catch wise as
Speaker 1: really the next week, which, yeah, I'm kind of getting
Speaker 1: with all this drama, I'm making me anxious about the Well,
Speaker 1: see better get through this one this weekend. You're right,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, all right. I did have one
Speaker 1: of the question before we go to break, Brian, you
Speaker 1: talked about Treyvon walker earlier this week. Yeah, the pass
Speaker 1: Rusher's injury status. He's still like they still don't know.
Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced all week, and I saw to day
Speaker 1: that Doug Peterson said that they will determine to day
Speaker 1: whether he looks like he might be able to go
Speaker 1: or not. If he doesn't go, that's a big loss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're a team that struggles on defense at times,
Speaker 1: and he is a I think he's out the best
Speaker 1: defensive player. I think it's their best defensive player. I
Speaker 1: know people might say that you know that they've had.
Speaker 1: They have others, I mean, Josh Allen and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but you take him off the field because he's the
Speaker 1: one weapon that can If you said, okay, well how
Speaker 1: can you go after Tyler Smith a little bit, That's
Speaker 1: who I would take. I would put Walker on Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith and try and and wear him out, you know,
Speaker 1: a little rookie on rookie there. But yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be a big, big, big loss. I mean, Devin Lloyd
Speaker 1: I think has played pretty well for him as well.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see how that all plays out. But
Speaker 1: this is a team he gives up some yards. I
Speaker 1: Nick Nick said something really earlier in the week I
Speaker 1: thought was pretty good. He goes about thirty points might
Speaker 1: not be enough in this game. This this has got
Speaker 1: a potential for both teams going big. I mean and
Speaker 1: it I know we're gonna have our scores and all
Speaker 1: that at the end of the show. But the more
Speaker 1: I watched this, the more I'm thinking, Okay, how does
Speaker 1: Dallas matchup here? Well, how does Jacksonville match up here?
Speaker 1: So I think both teams defensively are going to be
Speaker 1: put under a lot of stress in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know this is going to happen because I
Speaker 1: I have Dak Prescott on my fantasy team and I
Speaker 1: have a bye this week, and I think he's going
Speaker 1: to have forty seven points of fantasy points because I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go off. Well how it usually works, right,
Speaker 1: I think this team and I went and went back
Speaker 1: and looked at some of the times when they've struggled
Speaker 1: in games in the last couple of years, it has
Speaker 1: a bad performance, whether they lost or not, it was
Speaker 1: just this wasn't good, and the narrative is what's wrong
Speaker 1: with the team? Um, every time they basically score forty
Speaker 1: points and when they come back when they're when this
Speaker 1: is the talk. Now the one time when they had
Speaker 1: a bad game against the Bucks and Cooper Rush took
Speaker 1: over and they scored twenty against Cincinnati and one that
Speaker 1: was still a huge game. Bounce back game. They bounce
Speaker 1: back when they don't play well, and I think that
Speaker 1: they'll do that. I think the offense will, But I
Speaker 1: do think it's gonna be the defense is gonna get
Speaker 1: tested a lot. Yeah, I do too. Do you think
Speaker 1: this defense they've been getting tested the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks And I don't know that they've been as as
Speaker 1: much of a shut yeah, as much of a shutdown defense.
Speaker 1: They give up three points the last weekend, I mean
Speaker 1: the second half, second half right right, right right, And
Speaker 1: I thought they got putting some bad situations in that game.
Speaker 1: But to your point, yes, I think there's all these
Speaker 1: when you start taking out your cornerbacks and putting guys
Speaker 1: out there, and then all of a sudden, your best
Speaker 1: player doesn't have a sack. You know, now you're sitting
Speaker 1: there thinking, Okay, where's the defense gonna come from? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Layton Vanners, Oh yeah, okay, go have fourteen tackles. You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it. It doesn't look the same when
Speaker 1: Parsons is in sacking and they're not getting you know,
Speaker 1: not knocking balls down. I mean, it was really it was.
Speaker 1: It was that the fact that the Texans came out
Speaker 1: and said, the only chance we have in this game
Speaker 1: is to play two quarterbacks, one that runs and one
Speaker 1: that throws. That's kind of now you're playing against a
Speaker 1: guy that can run and throw. So that's the that's
Speaker 1: the kind of the drama that you're going to deal
Speaker 1: with this this week. You d the defense right now,
Speaker 1: do you think that they've started to decline a little
Speaker 1: bit or kind of for your opinion, have they stayed
Speaker 1: kind of where they've been on that same line, because
Speaker 1: I don't think they've kind of they play the runway.
Speaker 1: I think the personnels, I think the personnel and hit
Speaker 1: the nail on the head like I think they've lost
Speaker 1: personnel to personnel. Think about it. You're down your second
Speaker 1: and third cornerback. That means you're fourth and fifth cornerback
Speaker 1: are now your second and third corner and you're claiming
Speaker 1: guys for other teams or you're getting guys on your
Speaker 1: practice squad to you know, you're bringing guys in because
Speaker 1: as you're not sure. And as a personnel guy, you
Speaker 1: you've been you've been in the scout for name on
Speaker 1: one finger. How many times when you were in that
Speaker 1: office when y'all cut a good corner? Yeah? Never, never,
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. So if the guy's on the street,
Speaker 1: I could think of it's your various ward. That was
Speaker 1: a trade and that was they let him go and
Speaker 1: he turned out to be he was gonna make the team.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget we were in that. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: in that. But it doesn't happen often. You were in
Speaker 1: your point. I'm saying, like, let a guy go at corner,
Speaker 1: like and we can let him go and then he's out.
Speaker 1: That was the street, and it's like it's really good. Like, no,
Speaker 1: I remember that game. Doesn't happen which one? Well, it's Houston.
Speaker 1: It was a preseason game. We were all down there
Speaker 1: doing the game and it made the trade. He was
Speaker 1: on the field ward and they pulled him off the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they said, listen, you're going to Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: then you get a guard because you were in a
Speaker 1: bad situation. Guard gets hurt in practice and then you
Speaker 1: never you never play with you know, you missed out there.
Speaker 1: That was that was just damn bad luck right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that really what happens. All Right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break. We'll come back. We would talk
Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville versus Dallas matchup. Got a few questions
Speaker 1: for these guys, and we'll get some of your questions.
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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about the Jacksonville versus Dallas matchup. I
Speaker 1: think the biggest question coming into this game that I
Speaker 1: think I've seen from fans most often is, and this
Speaker 1: one comes from Nathan Shimp, how does Dallas contain? Shimp
Speaker 1: was one of the good three Stooges. He was pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know you lost about three quarters of the audio.
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Speaker 1: were the best. I remember three Stooges, but most probably Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, how does this seem contain Trevor LARTs?
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking both from a from a running standpoint
Speaker 1: and also his ability to throw. He's got a really
Speaker 1: good arm. Yes, what do you do pull his hair.
Speaker 1: There you go, pulls hair? That was easy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean touch one. I don't know. One of the biggest
Speaker 1: challenges is how quick he gets rid of that ball.
Speaker 1: Like he can be pretty quick, so it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough even without our pass rushers, just
Speaker 1: to be able to be faster than him and pressure
Speaker 1: him to get him off his tackle. You gotta tackle
Speaker 1: like quickly, like anybody that gets the ball out quick.
Speaker 1: It's they're not throwing it sixty yards down the field.
Speaker 1: They're throwing it quick, and they're wanting those guys to
Speaker 1: go make plays. So Kelvin, Joseph, Duran Bland, Treyvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: I mean another situation too, go, Yeah, you gotta make tackles.
Speaker 1: You gotta make plays because it's gonna be quick. Quick
Speaker 1: throws out in the open space and you gotta get
Speaker 1: him down. That's how that's I think that's the way
Speaker 1: they like to run to the outside and and move
Speaker 1: the chains and keep it from third and twelve, third
Speaker 1: and nine. They don't want that. Nobody wants that against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and so you have to figure out ways
Speaker 1: to do that. I think Doug Peterson is going to
Speaker 1: look at games where the Cowboys struggled on defense, and
Speaker 1: I look at the you know, I look at a
Speaker 1: little bit what Green Bay was able to do in
Speaker 1: the running game. I think you look at maybe what
Speaker 1: the Giants did a little bit earlier about them. Look
Speaker 1: with the texasist did Philadelphia. Yeah, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's more about like Doug's always and I
Speaker 1: know I've known Doug for a long time, and this
Speaker 1: whole thing about this quarterback is the concepts he's trying
Speaker 1: to He's trying to create opportunities with concepts that this
Speaker 1: this player you know, with Trevor Lawrence can handle where
Speaker 1: that's throwing on the move, it's the read option stuff.
Speaker 1: It's him running the ball straight himself. You know. It's
Speaker 1: he's not a big guy when you talk about physically,
Speaker 1: with body armor and all that stuff. So it's not
Speaker 1: going to be like drift school and those guys you see,
Speaker 1: you know, running in it, and it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a slippery type of a player.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to pick and choose. It's
Speaker 1: to me, Nick's right, the tackling, but discipline, I mean you.
Speaker 1: We saw what happen in Philadelphia with with when they
Speaker 1: played Michael Parsons and they took the ball at Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and he froze. And now it's kind of that,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole idea what Doug's gonna try and
Speaker 1: do in this game is make this defense play slow.
Speaker 1: It's they're they're gonna do things. It's like, what can
Speaker 1: we keep the Cowboys from doing? Running? We're you're gonna
Speaker 1: eliminate them. We're not gonna let them run to the ball.
Speaker 1: So what you do is you create doubt and you
Speaker 1: create the ability to make everybody freeze or play that
Speaker 1: half step slow. And if you get him playing half
Speaker 1: steps slow. You know, Travis at and has not had
Speaker 1: really great rushing games the last several weeks. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're going to try and run the ball. I mean,
Speaker 1: Dallas has been better on run defense. But I think
Speaker 1: the thing about with Trevor and all that the minute
Speaker 1: did he throws an interception, it creates doubt in his mind. Now,
Speaker 1: he's been really good since Week nine, not throwing any
Speaker 1: interceptions or being even close so, but the games that
Speaker 1: he loses or they lose, he turns over the ball.
Speaker 1: So if I'm Dallas, the first thing I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do is play coverage pressure and make him turn over
Speaker 1: the ball and then now take him out of his
Speaker 1: game that way. But if they don't, if they allow
Speaker 1: him to feel comfortable and they get a little running
Speaker 1: game going in, the quarterback runs for six and seven
Speaker 1: and they get first downs and stuff, That's why I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a long game, because it
Speaker 1: takes a lot of discipline to play against the quarterback
Speaker 1: that's playing this well. And then with the running game
Speaker 1: and with the skill guys they got with Zay Jones
Speaker 1: and then also with Christian Kirk, and then this tight
Speaker 1: end Evan Ingram. We've talked about him forever with the Giants.
Speaker 1: He's a much better player here in Jacksonville he ever
Speaker 1: was with the Giants. I actually like that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are playing this team the week before they play Philly,
Speaker 1: because I think this is a Philly starter kid Like.
Speaker 1: I think they've got some of the pieces and like
Speaker 1: to play some of the ways at Philly not as well,
Speaker 1: but some of the things that feel you like the concept. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they like to do some of the same things,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's a good week for Dallas
Speaker 1: to have to face that and get ready for because
Speaker 1: they're gonna face it in spades next week. It's a
Speaker 1: good week for them to see what they can do
Speaker 1: against that. All right, next question, half of you guys
Speaker 1: and without you don't have to give away your picks.
Speaker 1: But if Dallas should lose this game, what will be
Speaker 1: the main reason why they didn't take advantage of Jacksonville's defense?
Speaker 1: That they didn't. They did not. They did not. They
Speaker 1: let Jacksonville's defense, who's had struggles, given up yards and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They didn't take advantage of keeping drives
Speaker 1: going and keeping Jacksonville's defense off the field. So to me,
Speaker 1: if you go and let Jacksonville get you on three
Speaker 1: and out, three and out, three and out, and then
Speaker 1: you kick a field goal and it's a three and out,
Speaker 1: that's that's a recipe for a loss for me, because
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to put some points up
Speaker 1: in this game, but you've got to take advantage of
Speaker 1: their defense, especially if some of their best players are
Speaker 1: you know, if if if Walker's not playing in this
Speaker 1: football game, and then you've got to take advantage of
Speaker 1: this defense. I would like to say a slow start,
Speaker 1: but I mean they've shown to be able to come
Speaker 1: back in the second half and make up for what
Speaker 1: they lacked of in the first half of the game.
Speaker 1: But I think this is a game that where the defense,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense is going to struggle a little bit
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I can see that, not on Trevor
Speaker 1: sign necessarily, but on the other side, I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of iffy and concern what Kelvin Joseph can do and
Speaker 1: protect and cover. So I just think that if they lose,
Speaker 1: this game would be one Cowboys offense starting out slow
Speaker 1: a little bit, but also to the Cowboys defense not
Speaker 1: being able to do enough to cover the passing game.
Speaker 1: I think it's just the Houston game all over again.
Speaker 1: I think if that happens, then I think that they'll lose.
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars are better than Houston and they'll
Speaker 1: score a little bit more um. And so if you
Speaker 1: fumble a punt in the first half a first quarter
Speaker 1: of a game and give them a gift for a
Speaker 1: touchdown and then you know, turn the ball over at
Speaker 1: a time two more times in the game, especially then
Speaker 1: the red zone, both red zones, you do that you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna lose. I mean because Jacksonville will take
Speaker 1: advantage more than than Houston did, and they probably won't.
Speaker 1: They'll close the door on you and won't leave it
Speaker 1: open like that. But I mean, Cowboys play Houston this week,
Speaker 1: same game. You can go down to Houston. They win
Speaker 1: thirty four to seven. Worse than that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really believe Turpin doesn't fumble the ball. I think they
Speaker 1: win by thirty points. I agree, But I think that
Speaker 1: that killed them. I absolutely it did. It killed the
Speaker 1: momentum they had, killed the momentum, and it opened the
Speaker 1: door for them to make plays encourage Houston to stay
Speaker 1: around in the game. Yeah, exactly, and they're they're fifty
Speaker 1: fans were excited and all that, which is gonna gonna
Speaker 1: be the case here. I mean, this will be a
Speaker 1: bold game atmosphere and it'll be fun. It'll be a
Speaker 1: fun type of game. Cowboys will have as many, if
Speaker 1: not more fans. But those games, you know how they are,
Speaker 1: you know how those college atmospheres are. I mean, one
Speaker 1: fan base is saying, let's go Cowboys, and then the
Speaker 1: Jackbears fans get in there. So it'll be fun. But
Speaker 1: I mean, Cowboys just can't leave it open like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, as we said, we have been talking about
Speaker 1: fast starts and slow starts for a few weeks. Last week, ironically,
Speaker 1: they had a fast start. They immediately score, they hold
Speaker 1: them to a three and out, then the fumbel happens,
Speaker 1: and even after the fumble happens, when they got the
Speaker 1: ball back, they scored another touchdown. They scored touchdowns in
Speaker 1: two of their first three drives. So it wasn't a
Speaker 1: slow start last week as much as it was they
Speaker 1: had that lull in between and they were making too
Speaker 1: many mistakes and giving them great opportunities, and they cashed
Speaker 1: in on those opportunities. What Houston was able to do
Speaker 1: was once that you fumbled the ball and gave it
Speaker 1: to him, they said, let's put Driscal and let's see
Speaker 1: we got here. Let's go. Because before that they go
Speaker 1: three and out and you're kind of thinking, if you scored,
Speaker 1: it's fourteen enough, and you're like, okay, when are we
Speaker 1: gonna put Driscal in this game? And we really want
Speaker 1: to run this offense when we're down already fourteen points.
Speaker 1: So you encouraged him to It's like, we'll try it.
Speaker 1: Let's go. We're only down you know we're down seven.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah, all right, um, let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: check our final break. We'll come back. We'll get some
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Speaker 1: Let's get some questions. First question from stx Mario. He says,
Speaker 1: if Ty is active, how does that all to the
Speaker 1: game day roster. We talked a little bit about it
Speaker 1: for a second, but specifically wants to know about Washington
Speaker 1: and Tolbert and maybe even Noah Brown. How does that
Speaker 1: affect affect who may be active and what their roles
Speaker 1: might be on game day. Like I said before, I
Speaker 1: think that they don't have to do anything differently this week.
Speaker 1: If Jake Ferguson doesn't play, it's just different. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just you just put a I mean they have
Speaker 1: a tied end on the practice squad Seth Green they
Speaker 1: could bring up they want to do that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they're going to do that though. I think
Speaker 1: that they'll probably just maybe go with an extra receiver
Speaker 1: or extra lineman. I can't remember right now if Tolbert
Speaker 1: was active for this game or not last week. I
Speaker 1: don't remember if he was. I don't think he was.
Speaker 1: Anything was either And I think maybe t Y Hilton
Speaker 1: takes over for Ferguson. Yeah so does what? But I
Speaker 1: guess they're gonna dress six likely and the sixth guy
Speaker 1: will be Turpin, I think is what they'll do. So
Speaker 1: you'll probably see Gallop, Lamb, Brown, Washington, Hilton, and then
Speaker 1: with Turpin being the guy that they use on the team.
Speaker 1: And James James Washington did special team stuff last week.
Speaker 1: He did return kick off like, he did things that
Speaker 1: you would put on special teams. So I guess that's
Speaker 1: more of the question for me anyway, is do you
Speaker 1: expect that this is okay? Do you expect that James
Speaker 1: Washington starts to see fewer opportunities offensively if you're trying
Speaker 1: to integrate to and as yeah, right, I mean you
Speaker 1: keep going. You would think that they're gonna they were
Speaker 1: ramping Washington up. But at this point do they ramp
Speaker 1: up ramp down? Like what happened at this point with
Speaker 1: James Washington. Now that you have t Y in the building, Okay,
Speaker 1: would you get to figure out that I could say Washington,
Speaker 1: I've kind of been one of those things where if
Speaker 1: you had to carry, if you had to carry, say
Speaker 1: you do sign Beckham. I kind of And this is
Speaker 1: the personnel guy in me. I gotta figure out a
Speaker 1: way that jail and Tilbert somehow gets some mysterious injuries.
Speaker 1: I say, you just walked by him and you kneecap him.
Speaker 1: I'm just say, in practice, in practice, we might have
Speaker 1: pulled a hamstring. We might we might have we might
Speaker 1: have a thumb problem. I'm just hey, this is not
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com saying this. This is Brian Broad
Speaker 1: one oh five three of the fan, former personnel guy.
Speaker 1: This this these guys have nothing to do with my thoughts. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you got to figure out you're gonna need some
Speaker 1: rout out. It's like, well, we were talking about this
Speaker 1: scenario before about you know you, Hey, come see me
Speaker 1: in the weight room. You're like, what's wrong with your foot?
Speaker 1: You're like nothing, you sorry are Now there's there's saying
Speaker 1: high ankle sprains. We get. I mean just I think
Speaker 1: we're in a situation where you where you have to Again,
Speaker 1: this is not Dallas Cowboys dot com people, this is me.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about it. I'm trying to because I
Speaker 1: don't want to lose him, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to put him. I don't want to wave him or
Speaker 1: anything like that. James Washington might be a whole other
Speaker 1: thing too. But then, like we need to figure out
Speaker 1: Nick's talked about the thing with Beckham the one day
Speaker 1: active and I don't know that rule. I don't know
Speaker 1: the rule about putting him on IR. But maybe you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to have him on your roster in order
Speaker 1: to rehab him and all that stuff. I think you
Speaker 1: could put him on the practice squad. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: at this point, who's gonna poach him? Like he's been
Speaker 1: out there? Yeah, you put him on the practice squad
Speaker 1: and you can put back him on the practice squad
Speaker 1: and pay those guys whatever you want him. Yeah you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you put him on there and then he and
Speaker 1: there's a there's also an IR practice squad so you
Speaker 1: can put a guy there. I think there's different creative
Speaker 1: ways to do it. I don't know if he's got
Speaker 1: to be on the roster, but if you have to,
Speaker 1: if you have to hold a roster spot for him,
Speaker 1: if you have to have one, I'm looking at Tolbert
Speaker 1: on a what I talked about, and then maybe even
Speaker 1: James Washington. I don't know how you carry nine damn receivers.
Speaker 1: Why is Will Greer got to be on the team
Speaker 1: right now? I just completely forgot he was even on
Speaker 1: the right. No, he's inactive every week. The problem with
Speaker 1: the Will Greer thing is you've kind of invested in
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and there's teams out there that
Speaker 1: are quarterbacks are all banged up. Now he's on the
Speaker 1: practice somebody could go get him. I mean he is no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he isn't because he lost the ability to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't bring him. And let's not forget Rush is
Speaker 1: a free agent after this year, So they gotta be
Speaker 1: thoughtful by if they're thinking Greer might be the guy
Speaker 1: that that kind of becomes your backup next year, they
Speaker 1: can't mess around with that, right, mess around and lose him.
Speaker 1: So how to hold him there. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at those receivers and I'm kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: who do I kind of move on from? But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna move on from my third round
Speaker 1: guy because but I'm gonna figure out somebody say he's
Speaker 1: not on my fifty three. So that being said, I
Speaker 1: don't think you have to put back him on the team.
Speaker 1: You can put him on the practice squad. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think there's a way to do that. Ye
Speaker 1: all right, let's go on to the next question with Peters, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how concerned to you about the cornerback situation behind Diggs?
Speaker 1: I know we talked about like where they are and
Speaker 1: that that obviously, like what's your level of concern because
Speaker 1: I'll even ask you, how did you think Calvin Joseph
Speaker 1: played last week? I didn't think he was terrible. But see,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about I think he got worked on
Speaker 1: that long ball that went down the field. To me,
Speaker 1: to me, I am just not playing Kelvin Joseph and
Speaker 1: off coverage, I'm just not I'm I'm letting him. I'm
Speaker 1: letting him get up there. If you get holding and
Speaker 1: all that, you've got to teach this guy. You gotta
Speaker 1: give him reps. She gotta give him work, you know,
Speaker 1: the ball he knocked down on. I was talking to
Speaker 1: some people that were that were with visit with Malik Hooker,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about that. Hooker was trying to hey, listen, ball,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come your way. Here we go, get ready,
Speaker 1: you know, And they're kind of trying to help Joseph,
Speaker 1: you know, play a little bit better and play with
Speaker 1: a little bit more understanding. I've always believed with him,
Speaker 1: and she she gotta give him work. You know. Now
Speaker 1: we'll see what the whole thing with Mullin. My guys
Speaker 1: who watched tape for a living in the league, they're
Speaker 1: like Mullin's okay, they weren't like, you know, they weren't
Speaker 1: like listen all. But you know when you went out
Speaker 1: and traded for you know, Hankins, they were like, man,
Speaker 1: that was a That's that's what you got to do
Speaker 1: right there. That's the kind of moves you gotta make.
Speaker 1: So I'm willing to give the kid a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity because I think he's got some talent,
Speaker 1: I really do. I thought he had some pretty good
Speaker 1: Mullins last week, but then I had to remind myself
Speaker 1: that we're playing against the Texans. So as far as
Speaker 1: the level of concerned, I'm pretty damn concerned, Okay, especially
Speaker 1: for next week. So we'll see what he does this
Speaker 1: week and how he looks out there. But that's the balances. Yes,
Speaker 1: he had good moments, but then remembering who the opponent was,
Speaker 1: you know, he has he reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: Cheeto Oozier in that athletically pretty good and is normally
Speaker 1: pretty close to his receiver, but that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you make the play. There's something about being there. It's
Speaker 1: still giving up the play. It's that next thing of
Speaker 1: like figuring out where his eyes are, hands are knocked
Speaker 1: the ball out. I mean, Cheeto did that for four
Speaker 1: years where he was he was there, but the guy
Speaker 1: would still make a great catch on him, and it
Speaker 1: happened so much where you're like, just doesn't finish the play.
Speaker 1: And I think Anthony almost Anthony, yeah, and almost almost Joseph,
Speaker 1: I guess. So, so he's good. He's good, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's what, like Stephen Jones says, he's our most
Speaker 1: athletic player, or maybe the most talented player, which I
Speaker 1: don't know about that as far as cornerback goes, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't always translate into making the play when the
Speaker 1: balls in the air. All right, we're gonna get our picks. Um,
Speaker 1: gonna go round the table. Let me know what you
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen, and give me a score. Let's
Speaker 1: start today with you, Amber, What do you think is
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Thirty five thirty two. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: I can see it be in a close game. But
Speaker 1: I do think that the Cowboys do have disability to
Speaker 1: this ability to come back and bounce from what happened
Speaker 1: last week. I thought they could have easily lost that
Speaker 1: game against the Texans. They didn't. They got away with
Speaker 1: a win. But I do see them kind of struggling
Speaker 1: again in some areas. Something about the defense. I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling super super confident that they're just gonna completely dominate
Speaker 1: and stop Trevor. My tongue twister Lawrence stopped Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: ver Lawrence. Um. But yeah, I see it being a
Speaker 1: pretty close game five thirty two Cowboys winning. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when when you went through when we played the game,
Speaker 1: the when you get the schedule and go win loss,
Speaker 1: win loss, win, lost game. You're kind of going along
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, man, and this is probably not a
Speaker 1: good Jacksonville team, and it's a week before you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna play for the division. I was kind of thinking
Speaker 1: Dallas was going to be the team that was going
Speaker 1: to be ahead of Philadelphia. So I was thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: these are one of these games where you come out,
Speaker 1: maybe play like you did against the Texans, where you know,
Speaker 1: you find a way. I've gone back and forth on
Speaker 1: this game in my mind. I really have. And there's
Speaker 1: a side of me that thought when we when we
Speaker 1: picked those games way back then, We've done podcasts, talked
Speaker 1: about him, and it's been like it's Jacksonville game that
Speaker 1: you know, Jacksonville is a lot better team. They really are.
Speaker 1: But they believe right now that Tennessee is going to
Speaker 1: fail and they have a chance to win this division.
Speaker 1: That's what they're thinking about right now, so they need
Speaker 1: this win bad. I'm with Ambar though, I'm gonna pick
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The number that came in my head was
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty one. That's what came in my head.
Speaker 1: I think both teams are gonna I think both teams
Speaker 1: are gonna play well on offense the defenses. It's gonna
Speaker 1: come down to somebody is going to have to make
Speaker 1: a stop, and it might not be the stop, the
Speaker 1: last stop, but it might be the stop before the
Speaker 1: last stop to get somebody to punt. I think Dallas
Speaker 1: gets the final stop and Dallas wins thirty five thirty one.
Speaker 1: I think I would be a little bit more concerned
Speaker 1: about it. Have they not played the way they did
Speaker 1: against Houston. I think that that was a game that
Speaker 1: they overlooked them and they're not going to do that
Speaker 1: in this one. And also the fact that what you
Speaker 1: said about Jacksonville really really needing this one, I think
Speaker 1: that probably hurts them more than that, because if they
Speaker 1: go out and just play, they got all these first
Speaker 1: round picks and they go play, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty good. But you know, they're two weeks removing
Speaker 1: getting forty put on them by Detroit, you know, so
Speaker 1: they they're they're an up and down team as well,
Speaker 1: but Detroit's playing better. I didn't want to play Cincinnati
Speaker 1: or Detroit right now. I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go on record for the Cowboys. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think that the Cowboys will will bounce back and I
Speaker 1: think that they they win UM thirty seven to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: all right, And I also think the Cowboys are gonna win,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I actually think it's gonna be similar
Speaker 1: to what we've seen most of the times when Cowboys
Speaker 1: have played teams of this caliber. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: a close game. I think it'll be a close game.
Speaker 1: Do halftime. I think in the second half the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will get their mojo and I think it won't be
Speaker 1: close by the end. I think the final scores forty
Speaker 1: one twenty seven. I think Cowboys take advantage of their defense.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys give up a little bit. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get some points put on them. But I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's not gonna be enough.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have enough. Yeah, don't turn
Speaker 1: over the ball. Yes, if they just play a clean game.
Speaker 1: And I think all the talk. The one thing I'll
Speaker 1: say about Dak Prescott has not been a guy that
Speaker 1: turns over the ball as a part of his career.
Speaker 1: Do you look at his career This year, he's had
Speaker 1: a lot more turnovers and I think it's become a
Speaker 1: focal point at this point, everybody talking about it. I
Speaker 1: think he's thinking about it. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: force him to be a little smarter with when he's
Speaker 1: going to be aggressive. I think he's gonna still be aggressive.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a little bitmart about when
Speaker 1: he's aggresive and how he's aggressive, and so I do
Speaker 1: expect that to kind of come back down and him
Speaker 1: not to be not to turn over the ball as much.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this is going to be a
Speaker 1: game with Cowboys, Like I don't think it'll be close
Speaker 1: by the end. They definitely went because I don't see
Speaker 1: with Philly coming into town next week and everything that's
Speaker 1: been kind of building up for that game, I don't
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys heading into that game with a loss
Speaker 1: against I'll tell you what, I agree with Nick on
Speaker 1: this one too. I'm glad Jacksonville's good or or it's
Speaker 1: getting better, because if Jacksonville was the same record as Houston,
Speaker 1: they could very well go and lose this game. Yep,
Speaker 1: they could. They could say Philly, Philly, everybody could be
Speaker 1: talking about because what's happened already. Micah Parsons all the comments.
Speaker 1: Philly's having a comment. They're not even playing each other.
Speaker 1: They're playing the Bears, you're playing the Jaguars. But there's
Speaker 1: already talk between the two teams. But I think the
Speaker 1: fact that Jacksonville has done what they've done, particularly over
Speaker 1: the last three weeks to two of the last three games,
Speaker 1: I think that forces Dallas to pay attention to them,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why they go out and play
Speaker 1: a good game. All right, appreciate you guys. Jonas'll be
Speaker 1: back on Monday. We'll let you know what I'm right
Speaker 1: and wrong till then. For Nickie, Ben Brian brought us
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