1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime podcast and we have. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Some foundational stories coming up for you. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 3: But the thing is this foundation needs a little support 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: from these sponsors. So we'll stick around two minutes and 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: we'll get into the episode. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: My manager gave away my private information to my estranged grandfather. 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: What does he want with that? 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Trigger warning? Stocking and workplace privacy breed yay, I twenty 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: two female have been working at the same retail job 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: for over six years now. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Wow. 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: I will not be naming the company as it is 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: fairly small, but I loved working for this business. By 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Electrical Box eighty nine nineteen 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: to the r slash Okay Storytime subpart it. I'm Sophia, 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: advice goofy. But we don't have all the answers. We 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: only know what we'd do, so let us know what 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: you do in the comments and op says I moved 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: to a different store earlier this year due to management issues. 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: I'll try not to get into it, but I had 24 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: the same manager for the first four years, and I 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: adored her. Unfortunately, she moved to a different store, and 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: the new manager was definitely not. 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: The right fit. 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: We clashed very often, and if I'm being totally honest, 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: we were both fairly toxic. I think she created the 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: toxic environment, but I definitely did not help the situation. 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: I was poisoning at it on top of it. It 32 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: was just the. 33 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Little poisoned cherry on top of the poisoned PI. There 34 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: were about six other people who quit or move to 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: a different store because of her behavior, which I think 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: is very telling, as there were only ten employees when 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: she started. Anyways, after about one year of working with 38 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: this new manager, I couldn't take the toxicity and work 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: drama anymore, and I decided to move to a different store. 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Until this week, I had zero contact with my old manager, 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: and I was happy to just let everything go and 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of forgive her in my mind. Okay, now, I 43 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: don't think I can do that. On Monday, I was 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: rostered on for work, but I ended up calling in safe. 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I work every single Monday, so I felt really bad. Well, 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: looking back, I'm extremely grateful that I was not. 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: At work okay. Oh. 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: An old man came up to the store and asked 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: my coworker if I was there. She assumed it was 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: a family member, so she called over my brother, as 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: he was the one who covered my shift that day. Sorry, bro, 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: does your brother work there? Sounds like it, that'd be 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: super funny if he didn't work there. And she was 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: just like, I brought my brother. I'm gonna bring my 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: brother and he's gonna fill in my shift. He asked 56 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: my brother if he knew who he was, and my 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: brother had absolutely no clue. It turns out that he 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: was our grandfather on my dad's side, whom we had 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: never met or spoken to before. 60 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: Interesting. 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: He continued on and said that he didn't want to 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: talk to my brother. He only wanted to talk to me. 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Oh lovely, Oh oh no, no, no, no, that's weird, 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: that's nice. 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: I don't like that. Yeah, I think he has something. 66 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: He has a will to give you his inheritance, but only, oh, pe, 67 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: not your brother. 68 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: My brother told him that I was not there, and 69 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: thankfully he just left. When my brother came home and 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: told me this, I was so incredibly angry. My dad 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: was as well, as he had not contacted his father 72 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: in over twenty five years. I hated the fact that 73 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: he tried to catch me at my job where I 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: couldn't really run away. Then my mind went to how 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: the heck. 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: Did he know where I was? 77 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: It was gonna be my question is. 78 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he know you were, How did he find 79 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: you there? 80 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: If it's like this small store and he's been estranged 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: for twenty five years? 82 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: As wait, does he know that that was your brother? 83 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Like, so I think he knew that? 84 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 85 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Interesting? 86 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Probably? Oh boy, what does the soul guy want? I 87 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: don't know. 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't trust him. This part might sound a bit confusing, 89 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: but I'll try my best, Okay. My dad and his 90 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: sister had a fine relationship until about two years ago. 91 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: My aunt knew where I worked, but she does not 92 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: know that I moved to a different store, as we 93 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: have not had any contact with her. My aunt was 94 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: also in contact with my grandfather, so we assumed she 95 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: might have told him where I worked, but he would 96 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: have no knowledge about me moving stores. 97 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Ooh, so there's someone that leaked that part at the 98 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: other store. 99 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Then ah, yeah, because she left that store because of 100 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: the toxic boss. How toxic was that boss? 101 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: And are they still toxic? 102 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: The next day, I went to the old store I 103 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: worked at to see if anyone had asked about me. 104 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I went directly to my manager and asked to speak 105 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: with her in private. We went into the back and 106 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: I asked her if an older man came in and 107 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: asked if I was working. It turned out that he 108 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: did go to that store first, but my old manager 109 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: told him I had moved stores. Ah, what kind of 110 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: stupid person gives out that kind of information? 111 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: Oh uh, the toxic one. Yeah, the toxic one. Yeah, 112 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: that's that's that's crazy. 113 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: She she if she had just if she just said, oh, 114 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: she moves stores, she doesn't work here anymore, that's maybe okay, 115 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: unless there's only like two stores around. 116 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: But if she told the location not good, Yeah. 117 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? In this moment, I saw red. I 118 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: was definitely giving her attitude at this point, but I 119 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: asked if she had said anything else to him. She 120 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: casually admitted that she told him I always work Mondays 121 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: and if he went to that store now, he could 122 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: still catch me. The company has an app where you 123 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: can see when everyone is rostered on, even people at 124 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: the other stores. So even though I thought it was 125 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: very weird that she looks at my roster enough to 126 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: notice that I work every Monday. I was too mad 127 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: to get into it. I started to laugh in disbelief. 128 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: I went off at her and said something like, are 129 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: you effing kidding me? I have no clue who this 130 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: man is, and you have just told him where and 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: when I work. To be very truthful, I was full 132 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: on yelling at this point, which started a heated argument 133 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that went on for a while. 134 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Awesome. Ashley says, that's illegal. Yeah, and if you get 135 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: a good lawyer, you'll never have to work again. 136 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you cannot just give out that kind of 137 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: information to strangers. 138 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: By the way, Sophia works every Tuesday from two to midnights. 139 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: It's true, and you can find her on Okay, story Time, 140 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: on YouTube, Facebook, or it's Kiley. 141 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: You just gave away my private information that nobody knew. 142 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: Quick Sue him, sued sue me. 143 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: To summarize the argument, I started yelling at her first. 144 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: She said that she had done nothing wrong, but I disagreed. 145 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Dude. 146 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: Her excuse was that he told her he was my grandfather. 147 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: My response was that he could have lied, been a stalker, 148 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: or been dangerous. She told me there's nothing she could 149 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: do anymore, so I should just get over it. I 150 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: called her an e fing sword and I left, lovely. 151 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: That might you get you in trouble. 152 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: The grandpa loophole, she. 153 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Was like, he said he was your grandpa. It's like 154 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: if like a serial unliver is like knocks at your 155 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: door and is like, hey, I'm your brother, and they're like, 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I've never met you before, but you said you're my 157 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: brother in wow. 158 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: What huh? 159 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and take people at their words. Thought to double 160 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: check these things. 161 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: Yup, that's true safety one oh one? Yeah, what was 162 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: really going through this manager's mind? 163 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I think she just like doesn't like that girl, I agree, 164 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: or or it is just not very smart. 165 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: I oh, yeah, because I left. 166 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I know it was not the best way to go 167 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: about the situation and that I should not have started 168 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: yelling and swearing at her, But I have never been 169 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: so enraged. Beginning of the conversation, we were both civil, 170 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: but her lack of accountability and no apology tipped me 171 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: over the edge. Little did I know while this was happening, 172 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: my grandfather went to the store I worked at again. 173 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: He also went in two days later, on the Thursday. 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Thankfully you have not been working when he comes in, 175 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: but now I'm extremely paranoid. Anyways, my old manager obviously 176 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: went to HR about the whole situation, which I do understand. 177 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: There's so much history between us and me coming in 178 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: and calling her an effing C word probably should have 179 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: been brought up. Yesterday, I had a meeting with the 180 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: CEO of the company, a manager, and some other guy 181 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: who kind of manages the managers. 182 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: Interesting. 183 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: The meeting was extremely awkward, and I admitted that my 184 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: behavior was inappropriate, which is true, and I apologize to 185 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: my manager. She accepted my apology, and they were wrapping 186 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: up the meeting, but I interrupted to discuss how she 187 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: gave a random stranger my personal information. 188 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: Boom. 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Now yet you said, I apologize for my actions, and 190 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: they said, oh, well, I. 191 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: Guess it is. I'll done. 192 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: And you said, how Webburn, I don't apologize for calling 193 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: her out forgiven my information, and then Mike drop and 194 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: they all went. 195 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: They all went for a million dollars. 196 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: The response to this was not great. They basically said 197 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: that there was no ill intent behind her doing this, 198 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: and simply telling my grandfather where I worked did not 199 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: warrant that response. I explained that he is a stranger 200 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: to me, and he has now come in the store 201 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: multiple times, and I am very upset about the whole situation. 202 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: They said, we can discuss this at a later date, 203 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: but this is not really what this meeting was about. 204 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: But it was about that. 205 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: It literally was about that here though, Well, okay. 206 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: So I think OP went around about this wrong. 207 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: I agree. I don't that initial meeting was not that 208 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: because you know how like you go to court, yeah, 209 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: and you have new evidence and you have boom evidence, 210 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: It's like who whoa, whoa, whoa. We weren't talking about that. 211 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: We weren't. We were not We're not here there And 212 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: also like the defenses whoever, everyone has to be aware 213 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: of the evidence. Yeah, that's what I think needs to 214 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: happen here is or like not everyone knows what's actually 215 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: happening here exactly. We got to make another meeting to 216 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: discuss this. 217 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I think that OP should have before her manager, even 218 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: like her old manager even filed the complaint to HR. 219 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: She should have gone to her managers and said, hey, 220 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: this happened. I reacted poorly. Well, she should never actually 221 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: have gone to confront the manager. She should have confronted 222 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: HR and said this happened. This is totally unacceptable. 223 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would. 224 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Be my first thing after she already confronts the manager again. 225 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: You go to HR, you say this happened. I'm sorry 226 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: for doing that. However, it's completely inappropriate that she revealed 227 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: man version. 228 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you should have gone to before get ahead of 229 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: the story. Yeah, go ah gosh, complaint for complaint. 230 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Right there, I left crying. I was so incredibly frustrated 231 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: and embarrassed because of our history. This situation made it 232 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: seem like I was just dragging up old stuff for 233 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the sake of it, and that my manager had done 234 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: nothing wrong. I've asked my family and friends for their 235 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: opinion on this whole situation, and they have all kind 236 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: of said they see both sides. I think that is 237 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: their way of saying I'm wrong, but they don't want 238 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: to tell me. I honestly think that even though my 239 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: response and how I handled the whole situation was very wrong, 240 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: my manager is still the one at fault. I need 241 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: someone who does not know me or my manager to 242 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm being delusional. Am I the ale 243 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and there is an update? I think that you were 244 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: in the wrong for how you reacted, and had you 245 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: gone through the proper channels, you might have your complaint. 246 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Your complaint might. 247 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: Have been received better and you could have got a 248 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: big check. 249 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Because I think that you were right to be upset. 250 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that is totally a breach of privacy. 251 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: But I think because you reacted in that way, they're 252 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: less likely to take you serious. Now. 253 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's one of those moments where you gotta 254 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: not let your emotions take control and you gotta think 255 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: before you know, you say kind of thing, which is 256 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: sometimes really impossible to do in the moment, or like 257 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: when you're just really heated or really in that mindset. 258 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree, this one could have been a 259 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: big paycheck and so much easier. You just like worded 260 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: it better or went into it with a better mindset. 261 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: I understand you were angry, but that was not the 262 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: correct response in that moment. I agreed, And maybe it 263 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: might have it again, and you could you've learned from 264 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: these mistakes. You're only twenty two year she's young. This 265 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: could happen again. You'll be ready. 266 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: No, we don't want that, don't know, but there is. 267 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: An update and we do want that. A lot has 268 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: happened since my original post, so I'll try to keep 269 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: it brief. 270 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: I need advice. 271 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm going to quit my job. That's yeah, 272 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: probably the right move. 273 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: I agree. I cannot quit right this second. 274 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm a broke UNI student, but as soon as I 275 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: find a new job, I'm out of there. I actually 276 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: would have preferred to work something out with HR, but 277 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I basically have a stalker now, so there's no way 278 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable working at that store anymore. I would 279 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: have just moved to another store from this company, but 280 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the only other store that is close to where I 281 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: live was the one I already left. After my post, 282 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: which was last Saturday, my grandfather ended up coming to 283 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: my work every single day. On Monday, he came up 284 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: to me. I thought he was a customer, so I 285 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: approached him like anyone else, and he just asked me 286 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: if I knew who he was. Once he said that 287 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I knew it was him, I said no, I didn't 288 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: know who he was, and he told me he was 289 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: my grandfather. I just replied with, oh, lovely. It was 290 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: so awkward. I asked him if there was anything I 291 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: could help him with, and he just said wait ay 292 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: to talk. I said okay, waiting for him to keep talking, 293 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: but he told me he wanted to speak in private. 294 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: This is so creepy. Sorry. 295 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I was Ope's father personally, I'd probably be 296 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: breaking that silence to say, don't ever talk to my 297 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: daughter again. 298 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be like this, I know, like what 299 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: is going on? Oh yeah yeah, like with the boss saying, 300 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: oh yeah, we kind of see where everyone's it's that 301 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: like that grandfather has come out of nowhere. 302 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: It seems like nobody really cares about Op's experience right now. 303 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. 304 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: I said that is not happening, and that if he 305 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: doesn't buy anything, I'm going to have to ask him 306 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: to leave. I work in a shopping center, and the 307 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: story workout is not the store that you can actually 308 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: walk into. You just walk up to a counter. It 309 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: kind of looks like a deli with a grocery store, 310 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. He went over to the bench 311 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: that faced our store and just sat there staring at me. 312 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: This took place around four PM, and our store closes 313 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: at five point thirty Lovely on Mondays. I always close 314 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: by myself. There are not enough customers to justify putting 315 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: more people on after like three o'clock. When five thirty 316 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: around he was still there. I'm not gonna lie. I 317 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: was crapping myself. I really did not know what to do, 318 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: so my plan was to just speed walk past him 319 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: and walk to my car. Ope, you are young, but 320 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: you're not that young. You need to call your parents, 321 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: call someone and say, hey. 322 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: Pick me up, mall security, pick me up. 323 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: You had an hour and a half. You call someone. 324 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: You called all security, called boss. You say there is 325 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: a stalker outside. I do not feel safe. 326 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: There's a movie about a guy that could help you. 327 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: All Blart mall klop. 328 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: He would have rest, he did, and he would have 329 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: as expected. He started following me and calling after me. 330 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I did not look back once, just got into my 331 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: car and drove off. I need help with his part. 332 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: As I was driving off, I saw him take a 333 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: photo of my car. I have no idea why he 334 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: did that. I thought maybe he wanted my license plate. 335 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: If anyone knows what the reason for this is, please 336 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: tell me. After this, I told my current manager what happened, 337 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: and she then contacted HRS so she could have a 338 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: meeting with them to sum up what happened At the meeting, 339 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: they said that they can ban him from all stores. Lovely, 340 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: adjust my work hours, report him to the police if necessary, 341 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: help me apply for a restraining order. If all that 342 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: does not help, well, there at least there's that. 343 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: At least there's that some movement. Okay. 344 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: The meeting happened Tuesday, and every day since my original 345 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: post he has come to the store. Thankfully, I have 346 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: been allocated to all the jobs that do not require 347 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: me to be outfront serving customers. I am also not 348 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: doing the closing shifts anymore. He will come to the store, 349 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: ask for me, and then he is told he needs 350 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: to leave because I am out back and cannot be seen. 351 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: He will usually leave after looking at the comments under 352 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: this post. I have been documenting everything good and reporting 353 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: it straight to my manager. 354 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: Oh my guys. 355 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: The only reason I think i'll bother with the restraining 356 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: order is if he finds my new place of employment. 357 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: After I quit. Yeah. 358 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that he has any other information 359 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: about me. The only thing that I am certain of 360 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: is that he knows what university I am attending. It's 361 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: a huge uni, so I'm not too concerned about that. 362 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I am praying that once I find a new job, 363 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: you won't be able to contact me anymore. 364 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 365 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is crazy, really scary, really really scary. 366 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. This doesn't make any sense. The only 367 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: way I'll be okay with all of this is if 368 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: you had a large sum of money. 369 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, I need to give you money. 370 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: Please let me talk to you. I have so much 371 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: money to give you. 372 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: Okay. Would you guys actually take money from someone you 373 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: really don't know, like that, like a large monney? Well exactly, 374 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: I would say, like, what strings are attached? Let's go 375 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: six figures? 376 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: What strings are attached? 377 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: We don't know. 378 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: We don't know the strings. 379 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: We don't know because we don't know this person. This 380 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: person is like, I just want to give you this money. 381 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: And I'm your grandfa. I'm your grandfather. 382 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: I want a contract. 383 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: I'll take that money. 384 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: If you take that money, if something I'm ready to do, 385 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm stalking you. 386 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: Next question, are you taking it in cash or check? 387 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Cash? 388 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: Riley? Why? Because the check is due you have to 389 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: take tax out if you get it is because if 390 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: tags is risey right. Response, I'm proud of you. 391 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: I remember it made sense in the context that I 392 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: was bringing it up in. 393 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: You didn't want to carry on all that money. 394 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be at dangerous. You were picking up 395 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: random money. 396 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 3: Hundre K would be like, you know those thick, thick 397 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: things with money, be like ten of. 398 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Those, And now I understand I could carry it around 399 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: a small devil bag. I was picturing in a large 400 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: all in ones riley in my mind. 401 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: Ones. Yeah, meaning says random theory. What if Gramps is 402 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: there to warn her about something. 403 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: He's like, I've come back to want you. 404 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: There's more stockers coming? 405 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: Well, then why wouldn't you tell her? 406 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, why why can't you tell that, like in 407 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: front of everyone. 408 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust a person who says I need to get. 409 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: You alone in the time. 410 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, a person I don't know, A random guy I 411 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: don't know. 412 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: Right here with me and the customers, who cares. If 413 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: it's about family, I don't even know who they are, right. 414 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: If it's about family, bring your brother, bring your dad, 415 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: bring anyone. 416 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: But there's a little bit left to the story. A 417 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of people were telling me that I could sue 418 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: my old manager and or the company. So I asked 419 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: a few of my UNI friends that are studying law. 420 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: They basically said that it might technically be possible to 421 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: sue my old manager or the company as our actions 422 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: were a breach of confidentiality and privacy and illegal where 423 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: I'm from, but it's very difficult and unlikely to be 424 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: worth it financially as I do not have any physical 425 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: evidence that my old manager's actions directly caused or worsened 426 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: the stocking. I know this was not the happiest of updates, 427 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: but once I leave this job, I'll never have to 428 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: think about my grandfather or that effing C word again. 429 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I have no 430 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: clue what I'm doing. Y. 431 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough situation. 432 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: You're a young girl. 433 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, you're figuring it out. It's scary out there. 434 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: My advice would be to go to people in power sooner. 435 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: Go to your manager, Go to HR, go to your parents, 436 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: Go to people that are able to fix this. 437 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 3: You know, Reddit can't help redd it can advise you, 438 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: but yeah, to point you in the right direction. Go 439 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: to these people who actually have the power to fix us. 440 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: Find your nearest mall cop. 441 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, find the end of that story. 442 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: What creepy Grandpa's dogger. I know that if he didn't, 443 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: did he look creepy? That sucks? But was he like? 444 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: I feel like the vibe of this would have been 445 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: different if he looked mystical. Yeah, it was a wizard. 446 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: He looked like he had he had. 447 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: Please come, I have to talk to you. Please boom 448 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: talk to him side quest. Yeah there, I am did 449 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: not get those vibes you go. 450 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 451 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: I was reported to HR for inappropriate dancing at the 452 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: company holiday party. 453 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: They just can't handle your swagger. 454 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: Every year my company hosts a big formal holiday party 455 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: with best stress competition. This year, I decided to go 456 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: for it. By the way, this comes from chihuaba Is Crossed. 457 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 3: If you want my own stories, go to the Freaking 458 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime Subredded. I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and 459 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: we're here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't have 460 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: all the answers. We only know we would know, and 461 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: if you have anything that you would know, we'd love 462 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 3: to read it in the comments, so we would love 463 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: to know it. We read them all, don't. 464 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: I read the ones that I'm my naming him. 465 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: I read the ones I have Keon's naming them and 466 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: I don't read them at all. I've been sewing my 467 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: own clothing for a few years now. 468 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Ay yo, that's who my mommy does. 469 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: And occasionally do costumes for Drag and Berlins's show Sick. 470 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: Just Angie, Just Future Angie, Future Angie. What is she 471 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: doing on the holidays? It's a good dancer, Angie's you 472 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: know this? Yeah, I remember her birthday party. She's a 473 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: good dancer. Geez. Yeah. In working on the costumes, I've 474 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: learned a lot of coture techniques in gown making, lots 475 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: of feathers, beads and spar goal in both communities, but 476 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: I hadn't had the chance to make myself something wearable 477 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: using anything I learned. The holiday party felt like the 478 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: right time to make something myself, something beautiful and to 479 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: show it off. Yeah. I end up making a floor 480 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: length red satin gown with a big bow in the back, 481 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: matching opera gloves and a sparkly white faux first stole. 482 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what a stole is, but I'm assuming 483 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: it's like one of. 484 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: Those kind of I was gonna say, like a sash. 485 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: But it's like one of those things that you wear 486 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: like kind of like on your like it goes a star. 487 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: It's not a star, yeah kind of, it's not sash, 488 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 3: it's got. 489 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: On your arms. 490 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. It was significantly less literally than initially planned. 491 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: But once the bass came together, I decided I liked 492 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: the look of the satin undisturbed and left it alone. 493 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: The dress was a big hit. It was glamorous. I 494 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: felt beautiful in it, and people were shocked that I 495 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: hadn't made it all myself. I was best dressed. 496 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: Overalls can go yes, Yes, you're too powerful, You're too beautiful. Ah, 497 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you're too beautiful. 498 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: Stop it. 499 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: Every time someone won, they got to go out onto 500 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: the dance floor and do a little fashion walk. It's 501 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: been around, answer a couple of questions, and they go 502 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: to sit down. What is my turn to walk? I 503 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 3: did a few things I've seen that for less shows, 504 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: drag shows, probably a few old Hollywood movies. Oh, I 505 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: did the slow side step with wavy arms, shrugged off 506 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: the stone, better to show off the boat and look 507 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: down over my shoulder. I think I did a three 508 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: step turnaround at some point. Nothing racy or inappropriate in 509 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: less than a minute long. 510 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: Oh that's it arm that you literally you went you 511 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: went like you went da and then you went like 512 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: you're like, turn here andyone dude, that's it. 513 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: And someone reported that I'm gonna just be real with 514 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: you and I'm sorry, this is gonna come off as 515 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: a little harsh. Some old dude probably got what to do. 516 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: And the side of them, Yeah, our report, it's her fault. 517 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: She's a witch. She's a witch. She did this to me. 518 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: She's a hot witch. 519 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: It's like the plot of freaking one battle after another. Yes, yeah, 520 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: you haven't seen. 521 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: Have you seen it? No? Anyway, someone reported it to HR. 522 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: I got caught in a few days after the party 523 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: and was told that my dancing had made people uncomfortable. Hard. 524 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think that's it, because that's ridiculous. 525 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: That is absolutely ridiculous. I asked if there were multiple reports, 526 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: and they said there was only one. 527 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: Then why did you see people that. 528 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: That's absolutely ridiculous to get one report. If they were 529 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: there at that party and they saw no problem with it, 530 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: then they should not have brought it up at all. 531 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: Well, if one person reported it, then multiple people had 532 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: problems with it. 533 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone was like that. 534 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: It was probably probably someone high up or a partner 535 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: or something like that. 536 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like someone HR needs to make happy. 537 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: It was hr oh and she's a woman and her 538 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: husband was like, oh my gosh, can't you dance like that? 539 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: And she's like, I hate you. 540 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: They gave me the work parties are still work speech, 541 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: and they let me go. They didn't even really give 542 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 3: me a chance to say anything. I am so frustrated. 543 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: Their dress was work party appropriate, my walk was work 544 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: party appropriate, and no one said a single negative thing 545 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: to my face. I'm still proud of myself and the dress, 546 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: but it feels like majorly misplaced effort. What a creuddy 547 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 3: way to start the break and in the work here, 548 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: what do you guys think? Genuinely, I don't think you 549 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: did anything wrong? 550 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, nah, I think you question you say. I think 551 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: you ate that up. 552 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I think you slayed too hard, that's what you did. 553 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: They're just jealous that you went off. 554 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's going on here. What line of 555 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: work are you in? I don't think I. 556 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Think even if it was like a professional office, I think. 557 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: That they're all accountants. 558 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, Well, clearly some accountant is not 559 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: getting anything and he's like, oh a I'm just so 560 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: worked up seeing you walk down the aisle. 561 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: Some of that that is the same voice that my 562 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: mom talks about her Irish account. She had to switch 563 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: accounts recently, and that guy gives her a hard time 564 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: and he's like, I think he likes it. I have 565 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: to tell him to his work and he likes it. 566 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: Just likes crazy. But I don't think you did anything wrong. 567 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: I think that you based on what you told us, 568 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: unless you did something else that doesn't sound inappropriated. 569 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: This, yeah, I know so many video this I need 570 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: to know exactly. 571 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: Needs video evidence and he needs to make Oh my god. 572 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: Not like that. 573 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: I just need to know, Like, no, I get what 574 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: you're saying. 575 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: Just like the context of everything. If everyone looks like 576 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 3: they work an accounting firm and you're the only one 577 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: that has a spark of life in them, then I 578 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: can see where someone has a problem with it. 579 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: It just feels kind of like when like a woman 580 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: who wears a very normal like office attire but is 581 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe curber, gets in trouble just because she's curvier. And 582 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: in this case it's you literally were wearing a normal 583 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: tire walk down the thing, and as maybe someone like 584 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: thought you were is like thought you were attractive or 585 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: is jealous for some reason and takes it out on you. 586 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: And then instead of HR being like, well that's unreasonable, 587 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: we were there. No one else said any other complaints. 588 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: They you know, didn't do that. 589 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: Ali says work parties are a great way to get fired. 590 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: I guess so we've read a few indeed. Update, Oh wow. 591 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: I did not expect the response this has gotten. I 592 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: think I was still annoyed because I hadn't really got 593 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: to talk to anyone about it yet. Thank you for 594 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: letting me vent and sharing your perspectives, HR stories and humor. 595 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: I feel a lot lighter just reading through the comments. 596 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: I just want to clarify two things, since my mention 597 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: of burlesque has rightfully made it sound like I brought 598 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: my inner jesca rabbit to a stuffy work function. First, 599 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 3: the moves I added to my walk are not specific 600 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: to burlesque and can be found in virtually all forms 601 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: of dance. I only mentioned burlesque and drag because that's 602 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: where I learned about him. I'm not a dancer, it 603 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: never have been. The sideways walk is used a lot 604 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: in burlesque and drag because it's a really good way 605 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: to show an audience your outfit with it, not just 606 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: doing a regular catwalk around the stage. Moving sideways keeps 607 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 3: your torso so the front of your outfit is facing 608 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: the audience, and arms up and out on the hips 609 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: keeps the outfit in full view. Variations of this can 610 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: be seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms 611 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: are inspired by ballet. Depending on how you move, it 612 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: can be graceful, sexy, or kind of clamp camp camp. Yeah, 613 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: like drag, why is this an adjective? 614 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Camp is like it's like in a lot of quick 615 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: what tense, tense, fire, no, no, no. Camp just means 616 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: like it's like exaggerated. It's showy, like in drag. A 617 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: lot of drag is very campy. It's like you you 618 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: wanna have big makeup and like if you've seen Rocky 619 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Horror picture show, that's that's camp. It's supposed to be 620 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: kind of like. 621 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: I don't like this word. I don't like the way 622 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: that it's us queer word. So oh yeah, oh okay, okay. 623 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: So every time I think of camp, I'm like, how 624 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: does this dance feel like we're in the middle of 625 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: the woods. Yeah, telling a scary story around the fire. 626 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: It's usually used in queer communities to refer to, but 627 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: it's not exclusively. You can you can see how do they. 628 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: Come up with camp? Camp is like, I don't know 629 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: where that does not That sounds like the opposite camp. 630 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: Let's see. You keep reading in all the very oxy 631 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: more on the right word for this. 632 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 633 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I've been trying to work oxymoron 634 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: into a sentence. It has been difficult. Probably should read 635 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: the definition of okay. Variations of this dance can be 636 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 3: seen in musicals, ballroom dances, and the wavy arms are 637 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 3: inspired by by let. Depending on how you move, it 638 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: could be graceful, sexy, or kind of camp. I was 639 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: trying to be graceful, show off the dress and make 640 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: the glitter on this stole sparkle. Second, what do you got? 641 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 642 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: Well, it just says so far as says an aesthetic 643 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: in sensibility to regards something as appealing or amusing because 644 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: of its heightened level of artifice, affection, and exaggeration. I'm 645 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: still searching for where the word origins and development. Camp 646 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: may have been derived from the gay slang polari, which 647 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: borrowed the term from the Italian camparere or from the 648 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: French term say gamper, meaning to pose in an exaggerated fashion. 649 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: Okay, it cowers. 650 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: From yeah, it comes from that checks out for the 651 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: modern sense of camp flamboyant, do that, yeah. 652 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, bench and rich are always doing things outside down. 653 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: British cross stresher Frederick Park referred to his campush undertakings 654 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy. 655 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: It's over the top. 656 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Interesting alright, this is new to I didn't know the 657 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: origins of the word, so that's interesting. 658 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: Second, almost everyone who walks each year does their best 659 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: impression or a really campy imitation of a fashion model's catwalk. 660 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: Some people really swing their hips, and most stop at 661 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: the end of the runway and do the model hip 662 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: pop over the shoulder, look at into the camera. Last year, 663 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: the guy who won Best Dress showed up in a 664 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: gold sequence suit and did a genuine ballroom Paris is 665 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: burning ballroom, not Waltz catwalk. That would have been very 666 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: scandalous if a woman had done it. Okay, this just 667 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: makes me think that someone had a crush on you, yeah, 668 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: and found a way out. 669 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: And then it's again, I think that hr instead of 670 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: actually looking at the complaint, just wrote it off and 671 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't actually care to investigate. Instead took it out on you. 672 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, hey's John og host. We're gonna get 673 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: back to the stories, but a quick three minute break 674 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: of ads from our sponsors. There was also a time 675 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: for actual dancing towards the end of the night, and 676 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: there were definitely people every year who get a little loose. 677 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: Somebody did get called in for wasted twerking last year, 678 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: but she was kind of a mess that whole month, 679 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: so it might have been something else. I literally thought 680 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: she twirked or something. Yeah. 681 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: That means like you didn't do any of that. You 682 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: literally walked sideways, did like a this walk and then 683 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: turn your head over your shoulder. 684 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: That's it. Fun please, yeah, lokey, for real. 685 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: You guys are boring people at your job. 686 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: I do understand that maybe my attempt of being graceful 687 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: may have come off as sex yer. Then it's ended, 688 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: like when girls are nice to guys. I thought it 689 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: was flirting. No, I could see that. I was banking 690 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: on the fact that the moves are not burlesque or 691 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: drag specific. The gown itself is not form fitting, it's 692 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: a full skirt, and felt like the others swaying their 693 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: hips down the runway was less work appropriate than ballerina arms. 694 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was right. I'll come 695 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: up with something else if I get to walk again 696 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: next year. Thanks for the laughs and support. We got 697 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: an update two months later. I think we actually get 698 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: a good answer. 699 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: I hope. So. I hope it's like we know, I 700 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: now know who called me out, and now they're getting 701 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: fired because they do. 702 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: If this happened to me at work, I would try 703 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: my best to laugh it off, even though it's like 704 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: a serious awkward meeting. 705 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh hey, it's really awkward, But it doesn't seem like 706 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: it is actually affecting your job. Yeah, I think it 707 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like you're on probation. Yeah, it doesn't seem 708 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: like any of your other coworkers knew or no. So 709 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: I think maybe I don't think it's a huge deal. 710 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: It's super annoying and like disrespectful of them, But. 711 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. Would we go around the office or 712 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: wherever you work, wherever op works? You'm like, who thought 713 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: my dance was scandalous? 714 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 715 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: You just take a pull what'd you think of my dance? 716 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: Like you see? 717 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: Who says yes, he's swift, he says, so the hater 718 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: is gonna hate. 719 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna just shake it off. 720 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: In December, I posted here about being called into HR 721 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: for inappropriate dancing tldr M. I pumply host a holiday 722 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: party every year with a best dress competition where winners 723 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: get to do a catwalk to show off their outfits. 724 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: I made my own dress one best dress overall. It 725 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: did a sidestep, wavy arm, and a three point turn, 726 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: and someone reported me jhar I was going to post 727 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: any updates because the outcome was pretty bland, but I'll 728 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: be gone yesterday. I was shocked to see how much 729 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: more activity on the post had gotten after I initially 730 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: logged out and thought that maybe someone would like to 731 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: read about what happened. Long story short, someone in HR 732 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: did not do their due diligence and I was being 733 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: called in by mistake. I knew it. 734 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I That's what I thought. I feel like HR got 735 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: a complaint and instead of actually investigating it, were just like, whatever, 736 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: we're just gonna callop in ew Yeah. 737 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: Half arsed yes, as only came to lie after a 738 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve party not work related, where the same 739 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: person complained about my inappropriate dancing. I was out of 740 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: town on New Year's. 741 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that guy got a better get, like on 742 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: probation or fired or something. 743 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: The guy who made the report initially went to HR 744 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: to complain about a woman in a red dress from 745 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: my department trying to dance with him at the holiday party. 746 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Apparently he didn't know her name, and the person he 747 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: talked to did not ask for more identifying information. This 748 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: person decided that I must be the woman in the 749 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: red dress, despite the fact that there were multiple women 750 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: and red dresses at the holiday party and had arranged 751 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: for the initial meeting. 752 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: Ah, you were the lady in reddy. 753 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: You're the look. You're the only lady that was in 754 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: red that they thought of. 755 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just so striking in your dress. 756 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you stood out. 757 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 3: You won two awards that day. 758 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 759 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: Once we came back to the office after the holiday break, 760 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: I was once again called at the HR. They told 761 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: me that they normally didn't talk to employees about personal conflicts, 762 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 3: but since I had repeated a behavior that they had 763 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: already warned me about, they felt it was necessary to 764 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: meet with me again. This prompted a back and forth. 765 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 3: I apologize for my walk at the holiday party, and 766 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: I said I understand that some people may have found 767 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: it too risk ay, but that I hadn't done it 768 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: again and don't intend to. They said this was about 769 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: the dancing. I told them the only dancing I had 770 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: done at the party was the walk. They said the 771 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: walk was fine, this was about the dancing. This is 772 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: so annoying. Oh. 773 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I understand my walk. And they're like, 774 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: it's not about the walks, about the dancing. And she's like, well, 775 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: I danced at the thing, and they're like, no, it's 776 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: not about that. 777 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: It's about the dancing. 778 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: And she's like, what dancing are you talking about. 779 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: We're just going back and forth. 780 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would be so annoyed in this wedding. 781 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: How do they show you this? They don't do. 782 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: Any investigation at this HR fire. 783 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: The HR couldn't this gracious. Oh that's kind of scary. Yeah. 784 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: At some point, one of the HR reps outlined the 785 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: initial complaint to me. 786 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry they didn't even tell you what the 787 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: complaint is. 788 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: That's what I was saying. Which was dancing with a coworker. 789 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: I told them I don't danced with any coworkers that night, 790 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: nor had it even been on the dance floor. Then 791 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 3: I asked them have been to any New Year's Eve parties? 792 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 3: And I told them I've been out of town. This 793 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 3: essentially ended the meeting. I assumed they realized they were 794 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: talking to the wrong person and the issue of privacy 795 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: kicked in. I was given an apology by the head 796 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: of HR a few days ago. Afterwards, good They told 797 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: that this situation was being dealt. 798 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: With finally, all right, Oh yeah, they're like, oh, maybe 799 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: we should actually investigate the claims and instead of accusing 800 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: a person that just like we have no proof, yeah 801 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: of the maybe we should one ask them if they 802 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, you start the meeting off of, hey, 803 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: this is the complaint, was that you did you do that? 804 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 3: What do you have to say about that? 805 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: Instead of starting with like, you can't do this again, 806 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: because that's a stupid way to start a conversation. 807 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 3: I would really like to read whoever this HR complaint 808 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: read story. 809 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're like, oh, he keeps dancing, she's dancing, 810 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: she's enticing me without us. 811 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 3: This dude's like getting hit on. I guess his will though. Yeah, 812 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 3: if that's that's what I. 813 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Caught that the other person, it doesn't even seem like 814 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: the person who reported it, who was the same person, 815 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: was the person dancing with that red dress lady. Seems 816 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: like he saw someone else dancing with a woman in 817 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: the red red dress and then reported that. 818 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: Oh I see, So it seems like he's just freaking jealous. 819 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I need more I need more 820 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: contact on that. Yeah, one person doesn't work here anymore, 821 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 3: but I don't know if that was the HR rep 822 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: and whether or not if that person was fired. 823 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is all working out. 824 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: I would be like, I don't know. I feel like, 825 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 3: what what do you What do you need? I need? 826 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: I need HR to give me money, apology. 827 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 3: I need days mix up. 828 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need days off. 829 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 2: Like lunch, I need lunch and dinner. 830 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 831 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: I'd be like, ah, thank you for apologizing. I'm actually 832 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: incredibly hurt by this accusation. 833 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: Stressed me out a lot, and it's. 834 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Stressed it affected my my work. 835 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: You footloosed me. I thought I couldn't dance anymore. 836 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 3: I thought I. 837 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: Couldn't dance ever again. 838 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and. 839 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,760 Speaker 1: Therefore I want these. These are my demands. 840 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 2: I want to dance, and I want to dance with 841 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: my food. 842 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: I want to dance, pay somebody there we go. I 843 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: want to feel the heat with somebody. 844 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: I want to dance. 845 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: I think I know who the real woman in Red 846 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: was unless she was in Burgundy. 847 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: They mistic Red and Burgundy. 848 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: She's like, I think I know who it was unless 849 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: she was in Burgundy. 850 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: Then I don't know. This was a toss up, but 851 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 3: I have no idea whether she's been spoken to. Well, 852 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: don't stitch on her. I don't know the guy she 853 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: was trying to dance with. Still feel weird about everything 854 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: when I think about it, but I think that's because 855 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what went on with the two people 856 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 3: who were actually involved. I don't think it was very often, 857 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 3: which is good. Thanks again for all your hr stories 858 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 3: thoughts in humor. I didn't realize how frustrated I was 859 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 3: about not being able to talk to anyone about the 860 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: comments really helped. 861 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, seen the story, dude, I kind of wonder 862 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: what was going on? 863 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, what actually was happening with the other two people? 864 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like. 865 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I'm wondering, I'm wondering how explicit or 866 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: like risque this woman other woman's dancing actually was. If 867 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: this guy already complained about Ope's dancing, yeah, you know, 868 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: like was it just kind of normal dancing? 869 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: And then he was like. 870 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: Ah, she did not dance, saying what me? That's what 871 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: I want to know. But also I hope that either 872 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: the HR guy or that guy who keeps reporting people 873 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: he's out of here. 874 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: Agreed. Agreed. 875 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: I was accused of sleeping with my coworker twice. 876 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: My age ew. 877 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: And this comes directly from the r slash Okay storytime 878 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: subpared it. No, I thirties female work in a male 879 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: dominated field. My current job, which I've been at for 880 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: years now, is surprisingly filled with a lot of drama 881 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: despite being mainly only men at or only a few 882 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: years shy retirement age. Those men are getting nipped to 883 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: crete easy things. 884 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: Those men have nothing to lose. 885 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: I am so bored. I'm retiring next year. I want 886 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: to spice it. 887 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 3: Up, and they're about to just go to a retirement home. 888 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: Yep, I am the only female that works on the floor. 889 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from New York two seven 890 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: to two and if you want to spit your own stories, 891 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay storytime subpred it. 892 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, I'm Keon. 893 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: And we're here to give good advice. But we don't 894 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: have all the answers. Don't you only know what we'd do, 895 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: So let us know what you would do in the comments, 896 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: and Opie says, I safely assumed the typical workplace drama 897 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: that comes with a female working in a male workforce 898 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be there due to the fact everyone at my 899 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: work has decades on me in age. Ah, but you've 900 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of forgotten that the men not twice your age 901 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: and might be kind of creepy. 902 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 3: Dang, Opie fell for misogyny. 903 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: Dang, She's like, no, there's no misogyny here. Older men 904 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: never do misogyny, Opie. 905 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 3: I know you're doing black coffee and spoke cigarettes too. 906 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 3: You're an old man. We know who you are. 907 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: I've had zero trouble with any of these men, even 908 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: though I was hesitant due to being their boss and 909 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: younger than most of their children. However, I have one coworker, 910 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: seventies male, who I get along with very well because 911 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: he reminds me of my dad, who is my best friend. 912 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: I love that while it worked. During downtime, we will 913 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: shoot the crap about cars, football, and baseball. We text 914 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: while it worked to communicate so that I don't have 915 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: to go and find him every time I need to 916 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: perform some type of task. It's a big building, and 917 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: it's easier for me to keep doing what I'm doing 918 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: and text him what to do to save time, especially 919 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: in busy season. Now on to the fun part of this. 920 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: His wife, seventies female, has never been brought up too 921 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: much at work. The few things he has said to 922 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: me that involved her struck me as odd, but I'm 923 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: not one to pry. The one day the first year 924 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: he started working with me, my coworker seemed off and 925 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: like something was wrong. He had been having some health spats, 926 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: and I asked if he was doing all right. His 927 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: response was just upset because my kids don't want to 928 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: visit us for Easter because of my wife, thinking she 929 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: might not be the biological mother. I just said, oh, stepmom, 930 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: problems can be hard. Turns out she is the biological mother. 931 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: You made a wild assumption. I would not have assumed 932 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: that just because he says, they don't want to see 933 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: their mom. 934 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're on step to cellbred for step moms, 935 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 3: I guess, so I guess on that. 936 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's on that, you know, on that thought process 937 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: right now. But I would not have just said like, oh, 938 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: step moms. I honestly would have done the same thing. 939 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 3: Really, I almost asked a couple at my church when 940 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 3: they said, like, you're having a kid. I was like, oh, 941 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 3: did you do a paternity test? I almost asked it, 942 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: but I had to stop myself. 943 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't do that. I didn't ask any 944 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: further questions because there were other coworkers around. Fast forward 945 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: another six months and he asked me if I could 946 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: possibly just find him when I need to do something 947 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: at work. I said sure, without questioning anything. Coworker later 948 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: takes me to the side because of the texting thing, yeah, 949 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: and says he needs to warn me about something. Yeah, 950 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure some other coworkers saw that she was texting 951 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: him and then assumed something. 952 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 3: I was assuming that winter's coming. He just coming. That's 953 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: the vibe I got that. He just imst wolln you 954 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: should do. Your life will be had. 955 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 2: Just mix two things right now. 956 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she did. 957 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: He proceeded what I didn't mix them up. 958 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 3: I got to know into a different thing. 959 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: He proceeded to tell me that his wife looked at 960 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: his phone and now thanks for sleeping together at my 961 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: place of work. 962 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: But the text messages are, hey, did you plug that 963 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: thing into my box at work? 964 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: And she said what does this mean? And he said, 965 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: I was talking about the computer. 966 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 3: Your combobulator looks larger than it usually does. She's like, 967 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: what does that mean? 968 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: He's like, with the combobulator at. 969 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 2: Work, it just combobulated. 970 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 971 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: What to do? 972 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: I was regulating the combobulator. 973 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: I'm always asking Kean to plug things in for. 974 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 2: Me, mm hmm, and I do it with consent, usually 975 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: on his knees. 976 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: First off, my place of work is not somewhere that 977 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: this would be very feasible to do anyway, guys, mingman, 978 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't mixing it up. I was adding another reference. 979 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 3: You were you were. 980 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't mixing it up. I was making a Gandolf reference. 981 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: But you also put in a guy reference in there. 982 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I made two separate reference. 983 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: No, you did that. I did the god and then 984 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 3: you repeated my God, the Lord of the Rings with 985 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 3: the winter is coming. Yeah, I was, I was moving on. 986 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 3: It's okay to remix, were remixing, Yeah, it was remixing. 987 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 3: All right, we'll give you that. 988 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: It's all fantasy. 989 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: But she is I I've never even read William Thrones. 990 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. 991 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 3: That's a lot. 992 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: She is absolutely convinced that my text him are codes 993 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: for spicy related acts. I think this is exactly what 994 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: you just said, example a text coworker, can you bring 995 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: this to that area please? And she thinks that means 996 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: to meet me in the back of my work to 997 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: do things to him. 998 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 3: Come on, make it that was that was nothing going 999 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 3: on to a good one. 1000 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: Think about this makes my stomach turn because this man 1001 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: is in his seventies. 1002 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: He reminds me of my dad, and I am. 1003 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: In a long term relationship with a child of my own. 1004 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: She's also claiming I want to steal him from her 1005 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: for money, which is a crazy concept because I am 1006 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: his boss and make over double what he does. There 1007 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: are so many more outrageous things she has said, and 1008 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: word got around at work, as it always does, about 1009 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: his wife and how she thought we were sleeping together. 1010 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: It was a joking matter for about a year round 1011 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: our workplace, with everyone poking fun at the situation until 1012 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: one night. Oh, this woman decided to show up at 1013 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: our work and proceeded to text coworker that. 1014 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: She wanted to fight me. 1015 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sorry, a seventy year old woman showed 1016 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: up at your work and was like, I'm gonna fight you. 1017 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 2: Let's start that ring that bell. I'm ready. 1018 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 3: I want to see you. That's crazy. That would be 1019 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 3: the highlight of my whole year. That's freaking I'll be 1020 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 3: ready for it. 1021 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: That's my nana's age. That's if my nana came to 1022 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: someone's workplace and I was like, I'm fighting you, I wouldn't. 1023 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: Want to fight my grandpa. He's about seventy. Yeah, he's 1024 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: pretty well, but he works with saw mills. 1025 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: But he's not that old. Like, I feel like you're 1026 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: still you can still be pretty spry. 1027 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah you're pretty young. 1028 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like my aunt is inner seventies and she's like 1029 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: pretty spry. Play with dude and she like she still 1030 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: goes on ikes with me and stuff. Oh wow, Yeah, 1031 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: she's like really great shape. She looks pretty young. 1032 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: Hey, John Ogi host, we're gonna get back to this episode, 1033 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 3: but a quick three minute break of ads from a 1034 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: sponsor's keeping the show alive. 1035 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: Man, I can only hope to have this much spark 1036 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: left in me in my seventies. 1037 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: A lot of people do. Somebody's not that old. 1038 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: Our work is guarded and she wasn't able to get in, thankfully, 1039 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: but it still threw me for a loop. 1040 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 3: Fun fact, this is one of our own still right, 1041 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness comments. I want to see your name? Yeah, Lois, 1042 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 3: is this? I think that you need. 1043 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 1: To talk to your friend. 1044 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: He fighter, That's what I'm. 1045 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think you should ever talk to her. 1046 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were planning on it, but 1047 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: I don't think you should ever like go to her 1048 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: because it's not your relationship. It's on your you know, 1049 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 1: seven year old friend to manage his own relationship. Okay, 1050 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: And it seems like no one at your workplace believes 1051 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,439 Speaker 1: this lie, so that's good. 1052 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1053 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: I think I think talk to your friend and say 1054 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: he like, she can't be coming you need to have 1055 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: a conversation with her, or we need to talk to 1056 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: our boss because she can't be coming in here. 1057 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1058 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: When I'm trying to do my job, I'm your boss. 1059 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: Actually she's oh, he's the boss. 1060 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 3: But also then it gives that it gives that perspective 1061 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: of like, yeah, a dominating boss over a coworker, and 1062 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: the coworker drop it only so little, just like you 1063 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 3: and Kiel. You're like, I'm like stand there and you're like, Okay. 1064 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: I decided to take coworker to the side. I have 1065 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: a serious conversation about it. That's what I just said. 1066 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 3: Nice. 1067 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: And it turns out that for a while now, pretty 1068 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: much since the day she looked at her texts, she's 1069 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: been trying to figure out how to catch us and 1070 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: find a way to tell my man about us. She's 1071 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: been unsuccessful so far because I only have one form 1072 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: of social media and it's brand new and on lockdown 1073 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: since day one. Anyway, just figured i'd share this little 1074 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: funny story of how I'm a gold digger trying to 1075 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: sleep with a man well over twice my age. 1076 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 3: Whoa. She admitted it at the end she hadn't met 1077 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 3: it as she's actually doing it. She said it right there, Okay, 1078 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 3: crazy little okay storytelling. Yeah, my parents started a church 1079 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 3: with I think this guy's my cousin or something. Anyways, 1080 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 3: started church my parents getting like an altercation with this guy. 1081 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 3: He bans them from the church that they've started. They 1082 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 3: put in a lot of time. They were very upset. 1083 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 3: But like that guy closed on the church, found out 1084 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 3: he was doing some fraud through the church, and then 1085 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 3: married another woman. He's still with his wife, married with 1086 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: a woman and stole her four to one k bag man. 1087 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 3: What yeah, that's quick within like three years. Yeah. I 1088 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 3: always had a bad guy about that guy, right, yeah, 1089 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: but you got it. And like the thing that bothered 1090 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 3: me the most is like, you call my dad and 1091 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: said that his dad was a way better man than 1092 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 3: my dad could ever be. Like my grandpa was a 1093 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 3: way better. But I'm like, dude, my grandpa had like 1094 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 3: four wives, always was drinking and smoking, died on the 1095 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: golf course because he was like not in good health. 1096 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 3: He had a heart attack. That's why not golf. 1097 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: What's so weird? Just a weird thing to say this. 1098 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: I know. 1099 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, that guy was not it. And 1100 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: my dad's actually like turning his life around, helping He 1101 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 3: like goes visits like like anyone. Yeah, and like he's 1102 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 3: visiting kids at what's the what's the juvie prison? 1103 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: Jevy. 1104 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 3: Oh it it goes to the juvi and like precis kids, 1105 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: like he's actually doing stuff in the community. 1106 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: Then yeah, guy, yeah, sometimes people need to mind their 1107 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: own businesses or do a little bit of investigative work 1108 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: because it's it's clear through these stories that some people 1109 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 1: just don't not investigate the claims that they have. 1110 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 3: But we need to give them a walk through and 1111 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: how to. 1112 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like, all right, these are the steps to 1113 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: investigate a crime and or a claim. 1114 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: Yes, or an affair. 1115 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: Misinformation spreads like a wildfire, but you know what else 1116 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: spreads love and we love you, so if you love us, 1117 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe and seeing tomorrow as