Speaker 1: Welcome everyone back to then Novercare Complex, its Eagles Draft Central,
Speaker 1: presented by Diets and Watson, and I'm Dave Spidero, your
Speaker 1: Eagles insider and it's been a long long time since
Speaker 1: we had a conversation. I graduated from four years of
Speaker 1: college in this time and played eighteen holes of golf
Speaker 1: since the Eagles were last on the clock, and they're
Speaker 1: about to be on the clock in just a moment
Speaker 1: here with the one hundred ninety first pick selection in
Speaker 1: the sixth round, their first of two picks in round
Speaker 1: number six in this twenty fifteen NFL Draft. But the
Speaker 1: truth is, in the time I went over to the
Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial Field to host an Insider Series event with
Speaker 1: about five hundred season ticket members, had an absolutely fantastic time,
Speaker 1: thanks to all those fans who took time out on
Speaker 1: their Saturday to join us there. And we had a
Speaker 1: chance to introduce Eric Rowe, and it was just a
Speaker 1: tremendous time over there with the Eagles and what we're
Speaker 1: doing and making sure that fan engagement is very high there.
Speaker 1: So let's get you caught up on everything the Eagles
Speaker 1: have done in this draft. Three picks have been made
Speaker 1: so far, you know that the Eagles also dealing their
Speaker 1: fourth round selection to the Detroit Lions for a third
Speaker 1: round pick next year. And since that time we've been waiting.
Speaker 1: Eric Row Jordan Hicks first went to the stadium, said hello,
Speaker 1: everybody met the media, had the press conference, did their interviews,
Speaker 1: their meeting with the various staffers in the building. Now
Speaker 1: and now we are waiting. Chip Kelly had a very
Speaker 1: engaging interview with the NFL Network and now the Eagles
Speaker 1: about to be on the clock. So who might they pick?
Speaker 1: What are they looking for? We've got a couple of
Speaker 1: guys who are anxious to talk about it in the
Speaker 1: fancase Bo Wolf and Greg co Sell. Gentlemen, welcome back
Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft. Oh great to be back. Dave.
Speaker 1: What do you think here? You know, you're looking for measurables.
Speaker 1: You're looking for somebody who can you can develop quickly athletes.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your thought process? Well, and we've learned
Speaker 1: that you're looking for players who the Eagles have had
Speaker 1: contact with throughout the pre draft process, and there are
Speaker 1: still a few of those players left on the board.
Speaker 1: Along the offensive line, I think that's the position Eagles
Speaker 1: fans will want to talk about. There's Sean Hickey from Syracuse,
Speaker 1: Andy Gallick, more of a center from Boston College. Also
Speaker 1: Lawrence Gibson from Virginia Tech who sort of blew up
Speaker 1: the combine. He would be more of a developmental tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if they go offensive line, I think those are names.
Speaker 1: Maybe another name, although there's an injury element to him,
Speaker 1: as Rob Chris from North Carolina State, who has athletic
Speaker 1: left tackle traits. If you look at the other side
Speaker 1: of the ball and you're looking for athletes that have
Speaker 1: miserables and traits which the Eagles look forward, you have
Speaker 1: obum gwatch him boom? Is it? Yes? For a wide
Speaker 1: receiver turned defensive lineman from state. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: he is a very real possibility here for the Eagles
Speaker 1: with one of these two sixth round picks. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: he's someone who transitioned from playing receiver to playing defensive
Speaker 1: end slash linebacker, and he's very, very athletic and late
Speaker 1: in a draft, that's what you're looking for. You're looking
Speaker 1: for traits that you feel you can work with. And
Speaker 1: then of course in the secondary, Eagles did take Eric Rowe,
Speaker 1: the versatile defensive back from Utah but some corners through
Speaker 1: the Eagles have been linked with Jacorey Shephard from Kansas,
Speaker 1: Darryl Roberts from Marshall, and then at Saint Evans from
Speaker 1: Kansas State. And then at safety you've got Kurtis Drummond
Speaker 1: from Michigan State on the board. To Ron Smith from
Speaker 1: Fresno State, who we expected to be taken earlier. I
Speaker 1: don't think that he's been linked with the Eagles, but
Speaker 1: perhaps there's some kind of injury issue, but maybe he
Speaker 1: would be a possibility here. Yeah, the corners really intrigued
Speaker 1: me as well, because I still think they could look
Speaker 1: in that direction. Darryl rob which was really interesting for
Speaker 1: me to watch on film the Marshall corner. I think
Speaker 1: he's someone that they could have significant interest in as well.
Speaker 1: I certainly think that's the case, Dave. Any other positions
Speaker 1: you think the Eagles might go with. You know, I've
Speaker 1: I've thought long and hard about the outside linebacker position.
Speaker 1: You always want edge rushers. We have to wonder where
Speaker 1: Malcolm Smith is in his development, Marcus Smith his development.
Speaker 1: We have to look at maybe still you know, you
Speaker 1: talked about safety. That's something that I would always wonder.
Speaker 1: I wonder about tight end you do you just pencil
Speaker 1: in with or inkin Trey Burton, although there's been some
Speaker 1: tight ends taken. So I don't have positions. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, I don't discount six round picks. I
Speaker 1: certainly don't discount seventh round picks. Didn't event over at
Speaker 1: the stadium with Jason Kelsey, former sixth round pick Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl center. These are outstanding football players, great athletes, and
Speaker 1: players who have a lot to prove. Players a lot
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases who thought they were going
Speaker 1: to go earlier in the draft. So they come into
Speaker 1: a team with a chip on their shoulder and a
Speaker 1: lot to prove. So it's a it's an area where
Speaker 1: you can really define your draft and turn it from
Speaker 1: something good to something special. Yeah, and because all these
Speaker 1: draft boards are so varied, in the third day, the
Speaker 1: Eagles are gonna be taking players who probably have fourth
Speaker 1: or fifth round grades on their board with these six
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, A name that really jumps
Speaker 1: out at me is Jacory Shepherd. Is somebody who I
Speaker 1: think and that is to pick for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: I told you I mentioned him. Yeah, So he is
Speaker 1: to pick and your your reaction to that. Guys, he
Speaker 1: is a long corner athletic. You can do the press
Speaker 1: man things that he'll be asked to do. I guarantee
Speaker 1: he was higher on their board day because I watched him.
Speaker 1: I was actually given a tip about him by a
Speaker 1: coach and I watched him, oh maybe three or four
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I watched four games, and he has all
Speaker 1: the traits you look for in a press man corner.
Speaker 1: He actually transitioned to corner, I believe, from receiver and
Speaker 1: has only played corner for two years, so he has
Speaker 1: a much higher sealing. He's just matching the surface. The
Speaker 1: only concern you might have with him, and this is
Speaker 1: why he's a later round pick, is he does not
Speaker 1: have great speed, the vertical speed you might look for.
Speaker 1: But as far as those natural traits to play press
Speaker 1: man corner, Jacorey Shephard is that guy. About the physicality,
Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty physical. You know, not a
Speaker 1: lot of college corners necessarily are physical and every snap,
Speaker 1: but he has good size. He did play both a
Speaker 1: physical press man corner and shadow press man corner, so
Speaker 1: he does and he's done it in college at Kansas.
Speaker 1: He's done what the Eagles want their corners to do
Speaker 1: so clearly day of the Eagles making it a priority
Speaker 1: to upgrade the secondary this offseason, signing Byron Maxwell, drafting
Speaker 1: Eric row Now, drafting Jacory Shepherd in the sixth round. Interesting, guys,
Speaker 1: this draft, you know, a wide receiver in the first
Speaker 1: round and then it's been all defense. So when you
Speaker 1: give up seventy two plays of twenty plus yards in
Speaker 1: the passing game, worst in the NFL, and then you
Speaker 1: change out your coaching staff in the secondary, which the
Speaker 1: Eagles did, Corey Unglan and Matthew Harper now the coaches,
Speaker 1: and they've talked about getting those long press covermen. The
Speaker 1: Eagles backed up their vision with some very definitive actions here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Shepherd is a player who obviously will have had
Speaker 1: the experience of playing against very speedy receivers in the
Speaker 1: Big twelve, which is a lot of offenses. So here's
Speaker 1: my question, and again with rookies. And he's a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick, so we don't want to talk about him
Speaker 1: like he's a high first round pick and he's coming
Speaker 1: into start. But Shepherd is a kid I think, as
Speaker 1: I said, that's only going to get better and better
Speaker 1: because he's young and inexperienced playing corner. Let's say he
Speaker 1: comes in early and plays really well, and because he's
Speaker 1: not a safety prospect, he's a corner. Since we know
Speaker 1: Row can play safety and played it well, is there
Speaker 1: a chance down the road that their secondary looks like
Speaker 1: Maxwell and Shepherd with Roe at safety, Well, it's possible. None.
Speaker 1: You've also got Jill and Watkins. Don't discount him another
Speaker 1: player with your versatility to play both corner and safety.
Speaker 1: So the Eagles all of a sudden, very multiple in
Speaker 1: their defensive back which is what they want. How many
Speaker 1: times have we heard Bill Davis talk about that regarding
Speaker 1: the secondary. That's what they want. That's why they didn't
Speaker 1: want to get locked into taking safeties who can only
Speaker 1: play in the box for instance. They don't want that.
Speaker 1: They want versatility and flexibility in their defensive backfield. What
Speaker 1: do you think, Dan, who how will the Eagles line
Speaker 1: up mid season in the secondary. Well, I still don't
Speaker 1: know who the other safety is. I'm gonna say Jalen
Speaker 1: Watkins has a shot there. I think Eric Rowe will
Speaker 1: begin his career with the Eagles at the cornerback positions.
Speaker 1: So I'll throw this out and it's a young group
Speaker 1: and it's a new group, and it just shows you
Speaker 1: how quickly things change in the NFL. Let's go with
Speaker 1: Maxwell and Rowe at the cornerback positions, and I think
Speaker 1: inside Thurman and Boykin, that's going to be quite a
Speaker 1: battle here. And then I think you've got Malcolm Jenkins
Speaker 1: working next to Jaylen Watkins. Earl Wolf is going to
Speaker 1: own a chance. I know obviously Ed Reynolds is going
Speaker 1: to have a chance. Jerome Couplin, we have no idea
Speaker 1: big body, but it's it's to me that it's it's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving pieces, new names, new faces,
Speaker 1: new coaches who are going to evaluate these players all
Speaker 1: from ground zero. Yeah, it's obviously early to talk about
Speaker 1: position battles heading into training camp, but it looks like
Speaker 1: there's at least one open spot in the secondary, whether
Speaker 1: it's the second cornerback position or the second safety position,
Speaker 1: depending on where Eric Rogos, and then I guess a
Speaker 1: guard position, right guard. Is it gonna be Matt Tobin,
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Alan Barbie? Those seem like the
Speaker 1: two big position battles potentially in training camp. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: some certainly some some questions still there, and hey, we've
Speaker 1: got two picks to go here. We're gonna keep it
Speaker 1: live for you here on Eagles Draft Central through pick
Speaker 1: one ninety six in Chicago. They are having a good
Speaker 1: time there now in this sixth round. You've noticed that
Speaker 1: through the NFL network and so forth, that the teams
Speaker 1: are having their picks in the sixth round introduced by fans,
Speaker 1: and so you've noticed that Merril Reese is not sitting
Speaker 1: next to me. He is elsewhere, and he is doing
Speaker 1: an equally important job. Hi, I am Merrel Reese, voice
Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles, to announce the next pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen NFL Draft. The Eagles are very proud
Speaker 1: to present Brian Gingerlowski of Scranton, Pennsylvania. How you doing good?
Speaker 1: With the fifth pick of the sixth round, number one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one overall, the Philadelphia Eagles select Jacorey Shepherd,
Speaker 1: defensive back from Kansas. And there you go. That's a
Speaker 1: nice job, Merrill. Now hurry up and get back to
Speaker 1: our Extinity studio for pick one ninety six, and congratulations
Speaker 1: to that man for the for Brian Gingerlowski from the
Speaker 1: Ronald McDonald House announcing the first of two six round
Speaker 1: picks for the Eagles, pick one ninety one. Overall, the
Speaker 1: Eagles still with pick one ninety six and then one
Speaker 1: pick in round seven, So the Eagles adding to their
Speaker 1: depth along the defensive backfield. Now we will hear from
Speaker 1: Jip Kelly after pick one ninety six. Obviously they are
Speaker 1: getting ready for that next pick. Cleveland is in with
Speaker 1: pick number one ninety five and I really don't know
Speaker 1: where to think about this next pick. I guess offensive line,
Speaker 1: but you just want to you just want to make
Speaker 1: sure you've get you've got a really good measurable here,
Speaker 1: somebody that you can kind of build with, and somebody
Speaker 1: potentially you can come in and play special teams. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Eagles number one in the NFL in special team
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and they've added some resources two special teams
Speaker 1: in this offseason. So the Cleveland Browns have to pick
Speaker 1: in at one ninety five. Eagles will be on the
Speaker 1: clock shortly. And I would love to have a guest
Speaker 1: for you, but I just don't know. Guys, you have
Speaker 1: any names for me? Anybody bow that the Eagles have
Speaker 1: shown interest in as Malcolm Johnson tight end from Mississippi
Speaker 1: State goes at one ninety five Eagles officially on the clock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, it's the same list as it was a
Speaker 1: few picks ago, minus Jacory Shepherd so o boom, guatch
Speaker 1: him from Oregon State. The converted wide receiver turned pass
Speaker 1: rusher on the outside has the length and measurable as
Speaker 1: Eagles would be looking for. It's possible they could go
Speaker 1: with another corner because Daryl Roberts is still there for
Speaker 1: maybe they just hit that position heavy. And then you've
Speaker 1: got the offensive lineman who we talked about, Sean Hickey
Speaker 1: from Syracuse, Laurence Skipson from Virginia Tech, Andy Gallick from Boston.
Speaker 1: You know, they've showed Rob Chris, but he showed interest
Speaker 1: in Darryl Roberts. As you said, they've showed interest in
Speaker 1: Randall Evans, a corner from Kansas State who played primarily
Speaker 1: in the slot, and he fits the Eagles measurables because
Speaker 1: he's six feet one ninety as a slot corner. Because
Speaker 1: Walter Thurman, while he's here and theoretically battles with Boykin
Speaker 1: now for the slot, Thurman's coming off a major knee injury,
Speaker 1: so he's an unknown to a certain extent, we have
Speaker 1: to assume where there's smoke, there's fire. Boykin's name has
Speaker 1: been bandied about, and our sense I believe you would
Speaker 1: see it the same way. From what Chip talks about
Speaker 1: is that five nine corners are not necessarily what he
Speaker 1: would ultimately like. So we don't know that for sure,
Speaker 1: but you know we've seen Boykin's name out there, so corner,
Speaker 1: you know they may be looking to totally revamp the secondary.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of coaches in the NFL who are
Speaker 1: starting to look at deef pass defense from the outside
Speaker 1: in as opposed to the inside out bow in that
Speaker 1: they want man to man corners and if you can
Speaker 1: line up man to man and cover, then you can
Speaker 1: do a lot of other things as opposed to starting
Speaker 1: with the pass rush. Of course, every team wants to
Speaker 1: pass for we know that, but there's different ways to
Speaker 1: look at this. When there's a lot of teams in
Speaker 1: the league and I've had these conversations, are starting to
Speaker 1: feel like, hey, it's more important to get the corner
Speaker 1: and the cover of people than it is the pass rushers.
Speaker 1: The other ones I'll quickly add the Oregon players, potentially
Speaker 1: Tony Washington, linebacker Eric Dargan's safety. If it's going to
Speaker 1: be an organ guy, that's who. How about a guy
Speaker 1: like Randall Levans, what do you think of him? Well,
Speaker 1: we said it again, just yet another We're just we're
Speaker 1: just on fire. Now, let's let's understand that, and let's
Speaker 1: talk about this. There are now three cornerbacks drafted by
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, and we know that Roe has the
Speaker 1: body to potentially play safety, although I still think they
Speaker 1: will have him at cornerback early. Any of these two
Speaker 1: other picks, you're Corey Shephard and Randall Evans potentially handle
Speaker 1: the safety position. I don't know enough about Evans. Shephard
Speaker 1: is not super physical. He's also a little bit smaller.
Speaker 1: Evans is six feet six feet. This past year at
Speaker 1: Kansas he played predominant I think it was Kansas State.
Speaker 1: I believe in the state. Yeah, he played. I'm only
Speaker 1: in the slot almost every I watched four or five
Speaker 1: games he only played in the slot, So I assume
Speaker 1: in the other games that's what he did as well.
Speaker 1: So he was a six foot one ninety pound corner
Speaker 1: only in the slot. I can't imagine they drafted him
Speaker 1: after having played only in the slot. To play outside.
Speaker 1: I think they view him as a bigger slot corner,
Speaker 1: and I really believe it fits Chip Kelly's profile. They
Speaker 1: do not want short corners, whether it's outside or in
Speaker 1: the slot. And one thing we've seen from Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: is trying to take away the projection of moving a
Speaker 1: guy to a new position. So the only one of
Speaker 1: the three who I think would make sense of safety
Speaker 1: is Row. But of course he's the best of the three,
Speaker 1: and I think, as I agree with you Dave, his
Speaker 1: value is going to be the highest on the outside
Speaker 1: of cornerback. But maybe he allows you to move pieces around,
Speaker 1: maybe he slides onto tight ends in certain situations. But
Speaker 1: I think he is the star of this class obviously.
Speaker 1: So the Eagles go out in free agency and they
Speaker 1: sign Byron Maxwell, Walter Thurman, the third e J Biggers.
Speaker 1: All Right, you wonder, okay, let's keep atting to the mix.
Speaker 1: But now there's three cornerbacks here, and you wonder is
Speaker 1: there enough room at the cornerback in even early on
Speaker 1: in the pre training camp period, I mean, how many
Speaker 1: do you carry? Do you look for somebody to get moved?
Speaker 1: Bow and Greg. You know we've all heard these stories
Speaker 1: out there about the veterans, and I guess I anticipated
Speaker 1: maybe some movement there in this draft. We've had none. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And off the top of my head, I think the
Speaker 1: Eagles have had about nine to ten corners in camp
Speaker 1: over the last two years with Chip Kelly. So it's
Speaker 1: going to obviously be deep competition. But you do wonder, now,
Speaker 1: you know, does a player like Brandon book and end
Speaker 1: up going somewhere else? I don't know, He's you know,
Speaker 1: he has been a very productive player for the Eagles
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons. It's it's like anything else
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It depends on the value that you're
Speaker 1: being offered. But again, now we're getting to the point
Speaker 1: where Chip Kelly is in control of personnel. It's clear
Speaker 1: that he has certain parameters. He's a believer to some
Speaker 1: degree in the Bill Parcel's school of thought that you
Speaker 1: define measurables for every position, and maybe it's not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but that's your foundation. You don't draft exceptions,
Speaker 1: you don't play with exceptions. You stay to what your
Speaker 1: measurables are. And I think that's what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: trying to remake the secondary in his vision of what
Speaker 1: he believes the secondary should be so I think yeah,
Speaker 1: as I agree. In the two position groups we have
Speaker 1: now seen Chip Kelly completely revamped during his time as
Speaker 1: head coach is wide receiver and now cornerback. So those
Speaker 1: big positions on the outside, Chip Kelly obviously thinks those
Speaker 1: were the ones that needed to be remade for this roster.
Speaker 1: And let me emphasize this for Eagles fans, when you
Speaker 1: are watching this team in the preseason and during the
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen regular season, you're going to see a team
Speaker 1: that at the cornerback position in in coverage, they want
Speaker 1: their big, long armed covermen up at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: In press coverage, they want to be physical at the
Speaker 1: last guy. I think there's a whole And then you
Speaker 1: guys have talked about a fundamental change, not just in
Speaker 1: names and embodied tip, but fundamentally the Eagles want to
Speaker 1: get nasty at the cornerback position. As we see the
Speaker 1: updated draft tracker, they and Greg, well, you tell me
Speaker 1: how difficult it is to do that, to be that
Speaker 1: kind of in your face. We're going to get our
Speaker 1: hands on you. Group of cornerbacks. Well, we've talked about
Speaker 1: that when we looked at Eric Row. In terms of
Speaker 1: what the Eagles corners are asked to do in this defense,
Speaker 1: it's all about disruption at the line of scrimmage, disrupting
Speaker 1: the timing of the offense, throwing them off so that
Speaker 1: the Eagles can you get to the corner. You have
Speaker 1: to remember that the NFL passing game has changed to
Speaker 1: a large degree. It's not the old days where it
Speaker 1: was a lot of deeper drops, long developing routes. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of three step, five step timing throws. More
Speaker 1: people are in the shotgun, the shotgun is usually quicker
Speaker 1: throws or because you have more people in routes and
Speaker 1: less in protection. So if you can disrupt routes at
Speaker 1: the line of grimmage, that is a better way against
Speaker 1: quicker drops than the pass rush because you can get
Speaker 1: a linebacker totally clean to the quarterback. But if it's
Speaker 1: a five step timing route and the ball comes out
Speaker 1: on time in two point one seconds, a clean linebacker
Speaker 1: will not get there in two point one seconds. So
Speaker 1: it's really becoming more important in the eyes of many
Speaker 1: to disrupt on the outside as opposed to focusing all
Speaker 1: your energies on the pass rush. So it makes sense
Speaker 1: to you then that Schip Kelly wants to really completely
Speaker 1: revamp this cornerback group so that they can do that philosophically,
Speaker 1: it makes good sense as we look at the board
Speaker 1: and we see the competition, and how many times has
Speaker 1: Chip talked about that bow competition? That's what he wants.
Speaker 1: He's still a relatively new head coach first developing his program.
Speaker 1: What do new head coaches always want? Competition? So right
Speaker 1: now they go into camp with all of these corners.
Speaker 1: They're not all going to make the team. We know that,
Speaker 1: but he wants the competition. And you also wonder now
Speaker 1: if Nolan Carroll is the kind of player who gets
Speaker 1: a look potentially at safety, whether he has that kind
Speaker 1: of skill set. So it's going to be fascinating to
Speaker 1: the Other issue too, is they played a ton of
Speaker 1: dime last year six defensive backs, and Nolan Carroll filled
Speaker 1: that role very effectively. He could be the kind of
Speaker 1: player that play when they played dime, whether that becomes
Speaker 1: their predominant sub package or whether they just use it
Speaker 1: ten snaps a game. Nolan Carroll could fill that specific role,
Speaker 1: but you would be surprised if they really played a
Speaker 1: majority of dime considering the value they put at the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker position this offseason, that remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of teams with good inside
Speaker 1: linebackers that are three four based and I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. I think they're going
Speaker 1: to figure that out. But clearly, I mean we can
Speaker 1: say based on what they've done today that they clearly
Speaker 1: think their secondary is very, very important, clearly more important
Speaker 1: to them right now than offensive line. They must feel
Speaker 1: very comfortable with their offensive line right now. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: And when you commit so many resources to revamping one position,
Speaker 1: obviously that's going to mean that other positions are going
Speaker 1: to be left a little bit wanting. But obviously, I
Speaker 1: think if you talk to Eagles fans during the year
Speaker 1: last year, they would have said, we want a new secondary.
Speaker 1: Well now we have one. How how much improved in total? Guys?
Speaker 1: Is this Eagles defense from last year? You add the cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: you add Kiko alonso Um, you add some coaching, new coaches,
Speaker 1: I mean, new philosophies are the Eagles, you know, And
Speaker 1: I know a lot of pieces have to come together here.
Speaker 1: It's it's very premature, but how much of an of
Speaker 1: an improvement have we seen with what the Eagles have
Speaker 1: done defensively. You know, I think again you made a
Speaker 1: great point, Dave. It's premature because these guys they drafted today,
Speaker 1: their prospects, and no matter how excited you are, and
Speaker 1: believe me, I really liked Eric Rowan. I evaluated him
Speaker 1: their prospects. But I think they're they believe that they've
Speaker 1: gotten significantly better at the position. And as I said before,
Speaker 1: it all starts with competition. So now they feel that
Speaker 1: when they come out of camp, and that's a long
Speaker 1: way off into of August beginning September, they feel when
Speaker 1: they come out of camp their secondary is going to
Speaker 1: be far superior to the way it ended the season
Speaker 1: last year. That's clearly the way they feel, and especially
Speaker 1: not just beyond camp, but one two years down the road.
Speaker 1: That's really I think the important thing of this draft weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, well, very good stuff, We thank you
Speaker 1: very much, and we wait, Tip Kelly and one more
Speaker 1: pick for the Philadelphia Eagles in twenty fifteen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: If you are just joining us, let's check out that
Speaker 1: Eagles draft tracker one more time. Eagles have made their
Speaker 1: latest selection really within five picks, two more cornerbacks added
Speaker 1: to the defense's mix. So the Eagles after taking Nelson
Speaker 1: Aguilar in round number one way back on Thursday Night,
Speaker 1: it has been defense, defense, defense, more defense for Bill
Speaker 1: Davis and a secondary that gave up a league high
Speaker 1: seventy two plays of twenty plus yards in the middle.
Speaker 1: There a trade to the Detroit Lions, trading a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick this year for a third round selection next season.
Speaker 1: The paper trail of Sante Samuel traded to Atlanta in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve for a seventh round pick. Bryce Brown selected.
Speaker 1: Bryce Brown traded to Buffalo, and there you go in
Speaker 1: that fourth round pick now becomes a third round pick
Speaker 1: next year. When we returned to Eagles Draft Central presented
Speaker 1: by Dietson Watson, we hope to hear from head coach
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. He's got some splaining to do the Eagles defense, defense,
Speaker 1: and more defense on Day three of this NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Eagles Draft Central presented by Dietson Watson.
Speaker 1: I'm Eagles insider Dave Spidero. We're live from the Novicare
Speaker 1: Complex in South Philadelphia on a beautiful Saturday in South Philly.
Speaker 1: Eagles going defense heavily in the sea. The third day
Speaker 1: of this draft, they made the trade with Detroit, acquiring
Speaker 1: a third round pick next year. So a lot of downtime,
Speaker 1: and since then the Eagles have added two cornerbacks, one
Speaker 1: of them Jacorey Shepherd from Kansas. Now, we don't know
Speaker 1: how he's going to project down the line with his defense.
Speaker 1: We don't know where he fits in with Bill Davis
Speaker 1: the scheme with cornerbacks coach and defensive backs coach Matthew
Speaker 1: Harper and Corey Unglem think. But we do know that
Speaker 1: there are a lot of six round picks who become
Speaker 1: good football players. Let's learn a little bit more about
Speaker 1: Jacorey Shepherd. A feature from the Jayhawks Insider two pm, Lawrence, Kansas,
Speaker 1: a Monday. KU defensive back Jacorey Shepherd is on the
Speaker 1: move right now. We're on the way to pick up
Speaker 1: my little Christopher. UM call him Tank, so everybody called him,
Speaker 1: so I'll call him Tang. Tank is the little Jacory
Speaker 1: is the big The program is big Brothers, Big Sisters.
Speaker 1: Doing one of my speech classes, this girl gave a
Speaker 1: speech about the program and I got involved through that.
Speaker 1: At twelve years old. Tank is a sixth grader at
Speaker 1: West Middle School. That was school boy. Tank and Jakorey
Speaker 1: have gone paintballing together, bowling the movies. Today it's shooting hoops,
Speaker 1: be crying either. Jacory truly treats him like his own
Speaker 1: little brother. Are you sorry I'm trying to throw touchdowns?
Speaker 1: You can't play under pressure. You just want me to win.
Speaker 1: I'm a gonna teach you how to shoot this year.
Speaker 1: You remind me of myself when I was at age.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be the best. So he always
Speaker 1: try to trash talk to me about I like pressure.
Speaker 1: Were like the same people, Connor like we like a
Speaker 1: lot of the same thing. The two have been hanging
Speaker 1: out for a year now. Jacorey will spend his only
Speaker 1: off day of the week with Tank for hours. Today's
Speaker 1: Around the World game is especially time consuming. I saw
Speaker 1: you see a lot of kids out there on their own,
Speaker 1: just really doing their own thing or sometimes and that's
Speaker 1: sometimes how to get cut up in in the wrong crowds.
Speaker 1: So we don't build about four houses all bricks. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tank has seen Jacorey in his element past play jacary
Speaker 1: S touch down in one. He's been to two KU
Speaker 1: games he's two and up. Everybody gets to hang out
Speaker 1: with a cave. I'm gonna try to get you some tickets,
Speaker 1: some other tickets to making you ask again you want
Speaker 1: to go to Yeah, Jacorey might want to hold on
Speaker 1: to that good luck charm and vice versa. He love it.
Speaker 1: That's What's one thing his mom always tell me is
Speaker 1: how happy they are that I'm doing it. He just
Speaker 1: asked me if that's my riser. Sure, yeah, you only
Speaker 1: won spot two spots, two spots for Jayhawk Insider. I'm
Speaker 1: Mick Schaeffer. So there you go a little bit about
Speaker 1: Jacorey Shepherd, one of two cornerbacks Eagles have drafted today.
Speaker 1: Still one pick remaining four the Eagles in round number seven.
Speaker 1: So we're sitting here at an overcare complex and we'd
Speaker 1: love to hear what you think about the Eagles draft
Speaker 1: efforts thus far in twenty fifteen. Give us a call.
Speaker 1: Two one, five, three, three nine six seven zero nine.
Speaker 1: Jump on board. Let's talk Eagles and what a wild
Speaker 1: and crazy offseason it's been for this football team. Many
Speaker 1: many moves. Think about it. Eagles finish up twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: in New York a win over the Giants, get the
Speaker 1: ten wins, missed the playoffs, and then look at all
Speaker 1: this happened. Restructuring of the front office, a massive amount
Speaker 1: of roster turnover. Some very prominent players and productive players
Speaker 1: no longer Eagles, including quarterback Nick Foles, running back Leshawn McCoy,
Speaker 1: linebacker Trent Cole, Todd Harriman's, Kerry Williams, Bradley Fletcher in
Speaker 1: the list, contin Jeremy Macklin now at Kansas City Chief
Speaker 1: and so then Eagles go into free agency very aggressively.
Speaker 1: Among the moves signing DeMarco Murray, Byron Maxwell, trading for
Speaker 1: Kiko Alonso at linebackers. So is this a ground based offense?
Speaker 1: What do we think about DeMarco Murray as a Philadelphia Eagle?
Speaker 1: Give us a call two one three three nine six
Speaker 1: seven zero nine, and the phone number once again, two
Speaker 1: one five, three three nine six seven zero nine. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Philadelphia and talk to Dan Ben, who's on
Speaker 1: the phone. Hey Ben, Welcome to the show. Hey Dave,
Speaker 1: how are you? I just had a quick question, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking Evan and Shephard here in the sixth round, how
Speaker 1: do you see the defensive back position laying out for
Speaker 1: the season. Do you see us going more nickel or
Speaker 1: dime with this kind of influx the defensive back Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's first gauge your expectations. Let's talk first
Speaker 1: about Eric Rowe. I expect him to be a cornerback first.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with me? I guess he's not there.
Speaker 1: I tell you that Eric row will be a cornerback first.
Speaker 1: That's my belief. I don't think there'll be a change
Speaker 1: in the philosophy necessarily defensively, but we will see a
Speaker 1: lot more competition. Look at the names of the Eagles cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: of course, led by Byron max Well, EJ. Biggers now EJ.
Speaker 1: Biggers signed for you know, not not a whole lot,
Speaker 1: not a whole lot um, not a ton of you
Speaker 1: know money, certainly have one year contract. Boykin, we've heard
Speaker 1: a lot about him in the off season. Still remember here,
Speaker 1: still a very good football player, knowing Carol a good
Speaker 1: football player. Hey, let's hear from Chip Kelly, head coach
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia Eagles, ready to explain his philosophy in this
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen NFL draft. On the offensive, Do I hate
Speaker 1: offensive lineman? No? I love offensive lineman, so you know,
Speaker 1: but again you got to take how how what's available,
Speaker 1: you know, and and as as we moved out of
Speaker 1: the fourth round, not have a pick until you get
Speaker 1: to six. So, um, there weren't many offensive linemen left
Speaker 1: at that point in time, so you know, the board
Speaker 1: is pretty pretty depleted by the time we got back
Speaker 1: on the on the clock. So there's a couple of
Speaker 1: guys there, but um, you know, a couple that you
Speaker 1: look at, and that's just kind of how it works out.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't predict where it was.
Speaker 1: There was a run in the second round. There were
Speaker 1: some guys that were really excited about but but they
Speaker 1: went before we picked also, so that's just kind of
Speaker 1: how it how it goes. Yeah, the Lions called us,
Speaker 1: so they were they were looking to move up and
Speaker 1: they had actually called us before the day started that
Speaker 1: if you know there's a player where we're looking for there,
Speaker 1: would you be interested in this? So yeah, they offered
Speaker 1: a pick, you know, pick in a higher round next year.
Speaker 1: So um, it's probably short term sacrifices for long term
Speaker 1: gains is what you're looking at when you're making those decisions.
Speaker 1: So it's one of those deals right now you wish
Speaker 1: you had to pick and then next year you're going, great,
Speaker 1: we got an extra three, you know. And it's so
Speaker 1: when you you're kind of caught in the moment. That's
Speaker 1: why I think you got to have discipline undraft there
Speaker 1: when you're caught in the moment. We'd rather have picks
Speaker 1: on this day. But you really think about it, just
Speaker 1: you got a better chance of taking a guy in
Speaker 1: the third round one year better than you do in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. So that's probably made this. Sig Row
Speaker 1: was a real personal player. Yeah, he was. You know.
Speaker 1: The unique thing about him is he's played safety, he's
Speaker 1: played nickel, he's played corner. He's a physical player. He's
Speaker 1: an outstanding special teams player. UM and Bill Schneider. You
Speaker 1: know you're getting a Bill Schneider coach football player. Uh.
Speaker 1: They they love him in Manhattan, you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of what they say about him, had real good exposure
Speaker 1: to him. He's a guy that we've had our eye
Speaker 1: on for a while just because of his not only
Speaker 1: his athletic ability, but his position versatility. So he's a
Speaker 1: guy that that that we were excited that he was
Speaker 1: still there. We didn't think he'd be there, nor did
Speaker 1: we think Shepard would be there, and I think some people,
Speaker 1: even um if you follow the guys on TV, had
Speaker 1: him in a lot higher grade than he was. So, um,
Speaker 1: we're looking to fight to you know, when as I told,
Speaker 1: we had a priority of doing a better job in
Speaker 1: terms of depth of inside linebacker and and and getting
Speaker 1: guys to play in the secondary. So you know that's
Speaker 1: what we're looking at right now. And we could take
Speaker 1: another one in the in the seventh so you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna get his. Uh if you look at the
Speaker 1: history and I studied the history here, um, we haven't.
Speaker 1: They haven't drafted a lot of dbs and in the
Speaker 1: last ten years, and you know, there's a thing we
Speaker 1: need to develop those guys and try not to rely
Speaker 1: on free agency to go out and get those guys.
Speaker 1: We had to because of the situation we were in,
Speaker 1: but we hope to continue to get defensive backs through
Speaker 1: the draft and develop them. So off the drafted in
Speaker 1: the last two years. Yeah, it's just how it feels,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we hadn't drafted dbs in recent years,
Speaker 1: so it's just kind of you can't take them all.
Speaker 1: You know, you only have certain amount of picks, and um,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not that we don't think we need
Speaker 1: to create depth in the in the offensive line. But
Speaker 1: as you look at it right now, the only offensive
Speaker 1: lineman we've lost is Taught you know. And so um
Speaker 1: we feel like getting Alan Barbie back off off of
Speaker 1: his injury. Uh, Tobin and Gardner played really well for
Speaker 1: us there, and we've got some young guys that were
Speaker 1: still continuing to developed. Jillian Vandervelt's back. There's some guys
Speaker 1: there that have that have played for us. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just kind of how it felt. There
Speaker 1: were some offensive linement we were really excited about in
Speaker 1: this draft. Uh, but we just didn't they get picked
Speaker 1: before we had an opportunity to pick again. So that's
Speaker 1: a question for Havan. So a lot of numbers at
Speaker 1: piner back. Now, do you expect Walkings and Biggers to
Speaker 1: stay at that point? We're going to throw them all
Speaker 1: out in the field and figure out who the best
Speaker 1: corners and safeties are. So and again I've said this,
Speaker 1: I don't care on Monday who lines up where. You know,
Speaker 1: we just let's start working on technique, let's start backpedal,
Speaker 1: and let's start. We got a long way to go.
Speaker 1: You got three weeks of just you can't even go
Speaker 1: against a look, you know, they're just backpedaling and breaking
Speaker 1: and doing drills with you know, with no heartbeat across
Speaker 1: from and then we'll get going and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: But the more people you have to select from, the better.
Speaker 1: We think our prospects are in the secondary. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Evan has a contract, so if there's uncertainty there about
Speaker 1: what he wants to do, how do you decide whether
Speaker 1: you take many We have never had an offer for Evan,
Speaker 1: so there's nothing to take, okay, whether if we're shopping him.
Speaker 1: Evan's been available to trade for two years now and
Speaker 1: we've never had an offer for him. That's through his
Speaker 1: agent and him. They've asked for us to if he
Speaker 1: can renegotiate a contract and see what he can get,
Speaker 1: and we've obliged him with that, but we've never had
Speaker 1: an offer on him. So now, Randall's a six Randalls
Speaker 1: a six foot corner, you know, one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: five pounds. Uh. Corey's just a little bit shorter, but
Speaker 1: not out of the realm of what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: I think he's just a notch at five to eleven. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know they're they're they're both in the ballparks in
Speaker 1: our height, weight, speed parameters and what we're looking for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had an injury. Um heard it at the I
Speaker 1: think he may have. You got to exactly get with
Speaker 1: him when you talk to him. But we've discussed and
Speaker 1: we know with that. I don't think his playtime is
Speaker 1: a lot faster than that when you turned the tape on.
Speaker 1: But he was injured when he finally got tested. So um,
Speaker 1: but we we've our first exposure to him was at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. So yeah, he's a guy that FIP
Speaker 1: had had an eye on. You know, obviously we have
Speaker 1: a lot of guys and then once we kind of
Speaker 1: figure out where they are from a special team standpoint,
Speaker 1: we ship him over to FIP and he gave him
Speaker 1: a really good grade as a returner. So last year
Speaker 1: it was present in the offseason, but once he came
Speaker 1: in everything did what he was supposed to do. Yet
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the one part about this
Speaker 1: part with the CBA, and I said it with Michael,
Speaker 1: I've said it with Evan. Whoever, it's strictly voluntary, so
Speaker 1: you know, I can't call him and tell him we
Speaker 1: need him to be here, nor would I. That's that's
Speaker 1: the player's decision in terms of where they are, So
Speaker 1: that's that's a question for Evan, not us. I haven't
Speaker 1: talked to him since. No, the mandatory doesn't happen till June,
Speaker 1: so he's not on our board. Paul, anybody talk to you? No? Okay, Elliott, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: We're good. Appreciate I gave you an extra tweet. See
Speaker 1: tweet and kills you and exit stage right for Eggit
Speaker 1: stage left actually for Chip Kelly as he addresses the
Speaker 1: media following the eagles two picks in round number six,
Speaker 1: both cornerbacks. So the Eagles have added three defensive backs
Speaker 1: of their four selections. Of their five selections, excuse me
Speaker 1: in this twenty fifteen NFL Draft. One selection remains, and
Speaker 1: when the Eagles are on the clock, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: In round number seven. We will come back live with
Speaker 1: our Eagles Draft Central, as well as Chip Kelly's wrap
Speaker 1: up press conference from an Overcare complex from Dave Spidero,
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