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Speaker 1: a good time now, y'all. This week on Selective Ignorance
Speaker 1: with Mandy B and of course my super producers, this
Speaker 1: is not a sports podcast, but.
Speaker 2: We are sharing our opinions, y'all.
Speaker 1: What's the NBA right to Nicks the Magic City promotional
Speaker 1: night with the Hawks versus the Magic Now that game
Speaker 1: did take place last night, but we are finally sharing
Speaker 1: our thoughts of the cancelation of Atlantic culture being presented
Speaker 1: in an NBA arena and where we see him on it.
Speaker 2: And you'll be surprised to note.
Speaker 1: That we all have a different take on this one. Now,
Speaker 1: what else is everyone so upset about? Apparently records aren't
Speaker 1: meant to be broken? Bam, Autobio scored eighty three points
Speaker 1: against the Washington Wizards, and people don't know whether to
Speaker 1: be mad at him the coach or the defense of
Speaker 1: the Wizards.
Speaker 2: But apparently people are upset and bringing up Kobe Bryant
Speaker 2: in the mix. Too real, real, weird?
Speaker 1: Really well, what's also weird is how people are now
Speaker 1: aligning Jay Z.
Speaker 2: With being a puppet for billionaire Row.
Speaker 1: He has been mentioned in the Epstein Files and of
Speaker 1: course in our good old segment This is America.
Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about. Do we care.
Speaker 1: If he knows what's going on? Does he know what's
Speaker 1: going on? Or is he just around as the.
Speaker 2: Token black guy because you always need one of those.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Then we're getting into Patrick Beverly as well as James
Speaker 1: Pearce Junior and all of the talk around charges being
Speaker 1: dropped for athletes. Come on, do we care about women's
Speaker 1: safety out here in these streets?
Speaker 3: Come on?
Speaker 1: Man, Yes, I'm asking that question because it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: And then also what's weird is what's happening with Dwight
Speaker 1: Howard and his now ex wife, Amy Luciana. Dwight Howard
Speaker 1: filed for divorce this week. Amy Luciana got on the
Speaker 1: internet with a big old bag of coke and we're
Speaker 1: discussing some takes around this relationship we have all. Damn,
Speaker 1: what was I about to say?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: Fuck it? We are here, welcome my super producers minus one.
Speaker 1: We got the og pot legend in the building. Hey, King, would.
Speaker 3: It do about the boy? The older, the sweetest, the
Speaker 3: truth to tune?
Speaker 4: What what is that's day?
Speaker 3: Yo?
Speaker 1: You are so I feel like you're jealous that you're
Speaker 1: not in a costume right now and.
Speaker 4: Is inside the sentence outside? That's just what did you
Speaker 4: develop this ib that's like that's left leftree talk.
Speaker 2: Lefree talk talk.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, website for him for leper con porn.
Speaker 3: If you're lucky to be Irish, you're lucky.
Speaker 1: Enough, Okay, I don't know. I'm not gonna hold you up.
Speaker 1: And King, you're doing way better than I could have.
Speaker 1: I sounded like a pot when.
Speaker 4: You sound bead at doing patchwad than I do doing Irish.
Speaker 2: No, I ain't even gonna hold you.
Speaker 1: I'm actually Jamaican, a pseudo far okay, y'all. Unfortunately journalism
Speaker 1: Jason is with them kids. There's some event happening in
Speaker 1: Jersey today that he said he got to go tend too,
Speaker 1: And as much as I say for them kids, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna allow him to be a husband and a father
Speaker 1: because I still got to not husbands, not fathers. Over
Speaker 1: here on the pot. What do you well?
Speaker 2: Is this something I don't know?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm childless. I'm childless with all the
Speaker 4: parential advice.
Speaker 1: Now, y'all, that voice is my guy, the king of headline,
Speaker 1: Jason jolly.
Speaker 3: My blessing all the yap niggas.
Speaker 2: You were supposed to do that in an Irish accent.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait wait wait wait only because I just found
Speaker 1: out there were black Russians?
Speaker 2: Are there? Not black Irish?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah niggas everywhere they were black German. Those are
Speaker 4: the listen, we're gonna we want to do a history
Speaker 4: of course. And it's playing Jamal O'Sullivan fact. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, Lafonso O'Shaughnessy out there out there doing something,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like he's out there somewhere
Speaker 4: doing something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Now, these don't really These kind of make my my yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're green as y'all have glasses on again. If
Speaker 1: you want to watch the video of this, uh Me
Speaker 1: and Jah are dressed as leprechauns.
Speaker 3: I was coerced. I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was coerced. By the way, if this isn't the
Speaker 1: most biracial thing ever. So I come in and want
Speaker 1: us to dress like Leprecauns, and John's like, but Biggie
Speaker 1: days today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to represent for Biggie Small, the illest.
Speaker 2: So I told him, you know he has this cape open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, everybody's gonna keep a real nigga.
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep a real Irish old nigga, and we
Speaker 4: gonna motherfucking We're gonna represent Biggie Smalls.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We're gonna took our our
Speaker 3: buckled hat.
Speaker 4: To the side, like t I p the King of
Speaker 4: the South, and you know what I'm saying, We're gonna
Speaker 4: We're gonna keep a real player in here.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 1: I forgot that it was like Saint Patty's Day weekend
Speaker 1: this weekend until I saw.
Speaker 3: All the the parade till the whites come out.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't know Atlanta could be so bid you.
Speaker 4: Know what the crazy part about it. I saw a
Speaker 4: bunch of niggas down there too. I saw cheerleading teams
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, were allowed to celebrate St Patty's Day?
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, listen, we're supposed to be celebrating sinners.
Speaker 3: There's this possibility that sentators could win a bunch of
Speaker 3: oscars tonight.
Speaker 4: And how the black people overcame the blood sucking Irish
Speaker 4: and here we are dressed as the oppressed, as a colonizer,
Speaker 4: so we.
Speaker 3: Were slips too.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm gonna get into. So do you
Speaker 1: know the backstory of Saint Patty's.
Speaker 3: I have no idea anything about Patrick's.
Speaker 1: So I looked okay, and hopefully you guys now the
Speaker 1: day today is actually Saint Patty's Day, So if you're
Speaker 1: at work or your friends, you could actually be like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me tell you the history behind this thing.
Speaker 2: Now here's a crazy thing. Saint Patrick ain't even Irish?
Speaker 3: Who is he?
Speaker 2: Bitch?
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's by the way. Way, by the way, last
Speaker 1: week after Pott and we went out to eat and
Speaker 1: they eighty six a couple things and.
Speaker 2: I was like, bitch, and oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, like, bitch is just a part of
Speaker 1: my vocabulary.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: AnyWho, So Saint Patrick was actually born in Great Britain.
Speaker 1: So St Patrick is actually British. Bro you ready, And
Speaker 1: at sixteen, Irish raiders kidnapped him and made him a
Speaker 1: shepherd slave.
Speaker 3: Bro Listen.
Speaker 1: Now, after becoming a slave, the nigga actually did get
Speaker 1: to escape and he then became a Christian missionary.
Speaker 2: Now hear me out, This is the crazy part.
Speaker 1: And he apparently did believe that slavery was a choice
Speaker 1: because he then decided, you know what, let me go
Speaker 1: back to the place that enslaved me and preach. So
Speaker 1: he chose to go back to the country that actually
Speaker 1: enslaved him to preach the good Gospel. Now, legend says
Speaker 1: he used the three leaf shamrock to explain the Christian Trinity,
Speaker 1: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Now, for centuries,
Speaker 1: it was just a religious in Ireland. And you want
Speaker 1: to know the crazy part about this. In Ireland when
Speaker 1: it was celebrated, all the pubs.
Speaker 2: Were actually closed.
Speaker 1: Everything was closed, like you know how like Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: shit be shutting down deuring like the Jewish holidays and
Speaker 1: all that Ireland was actually shut down you.
Speaker 2: Could even go to a pub.
Speaker 1: So in the eighteen hundreds, though, the Irish immigrants in
Speaker 1: the US started huge parades to celebrate their identity, kind
Speaker 1: of like what we're doing now with Junetie, and in
Speaker 1: cities like New York and Boston they made it massive.
Speaker 1: And so now pretty much Irish prayde with American culture
Speaker 1: equals We're gonna drink beer and we're great.
Speaker 4: I can't think of anything more American than adopting a
Speaker 4: holiday for capitalism and debauchery.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I ain't even know, like he.
Speaker 3: Was a slave, so I never didn't know he was
Speaker 3: a slave.
Speaker 1: He was a slave and then became Christian and then
Speaker 1: wanted to preach the good Gospel to the people who
Speaker 1: enslaved him.
Speaker 3: He better than me.
Speaker 4: I'd have went back there with hell fire and pitchforce
Speaker 4: burned that pitch down.
Speaker 3: This is a selective ignorance past.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 4: So the expectation for you listeners out there is to
Speaker 4: expect ignorance with a little bit of information. Okay, So
Speaker 4: I'm going to lean into the Caribbean aspect of this.
Speaker 4: The Irish Caribbean connection stems from the seventeenth century force
Speaker 4: transportation of Irish prisoners, indentured servants and settlers to the
Speaker 4: islands like Monserrat, Barbados and Jamaica under British rule. British
Speaker 4: always doing function, pretty proud and beating the chest. But
Speaker 4: it was like y'all got a dark history as well,
Speaker 4: and a big hand in all of this.
Speaker 3: And this was during the Cromwellian era.
Speaker 4: The history uh this history created a blend of cultures,
Speaker 4: influencing surnames, music, food accents, with up to twenty five
Speaker 4: percent of Jamaican's claiming Irish ancestry. The one thing about
Speaker 4: the Irish though, that I'm glad that in that the
Speaker 4: Caribbean folks didn't adapt is pretzels, like the big pretzels.
Speaker 3: That's their thing, right, I ain't gonna hold you pretzels.
Speaker 2: No pretzels is German? Ain't it? German? Get you confusing
Speaker 2: the White Country potato?
Speaker 4: They do potatoes? What does Irish potato?
Speaker 3: Right? Potatoes fix your face?
Speaker 2: Can I tell y'all?
Speaker 1: And maybe this is my mama's caucassidyation.
Speaker 2: She loves shepherd's pie, no person meal.
Speaker 3: I do you want better?
Speaker 4: I will say that that could yeah without knowing you
Speaker 4: know that. Wow, that was probably made from scrap ship.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, Shepherd's Pie, We're going to take the bottom.
Speaker 2: Can you put some ground beef? Do you put some
Speaker 2: mashed p tiers on top of that thing with some cheese?
Speaker 3: It's the version of it's the version of the designa yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty much by.
Speaker 1: People know it's given castle role. It's just a differ
Speaker 1: in the castle.
Speaker 4: This the Shepherd's Pie at Cheesecake Factory is fucking delicious.
Speaker 4: How about Factor Cheesecake Cheesecake Factory having a lot of dope, Well.
Speaker 2: They should have dope ship.
Speaker 1: It's only a fucking forty five page menu, like they
Speaker 1: gonna have something.
Speaker 4: If your culture ever invented anything. They selling it at
Speaker 4: cheesecay Factory.
Speaker 2: Now other other Irish dishes. Mate, it is corn beef
Speaker 2: and cabbine.
Speaker 3: It it was like it was all over.
Speaker 2: Can you can you okay? Can the mash all?
Speaker 3: That ship is not good for your gas intestinal track?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh Bailey and whiskey.
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I'm here for any celebration to dress
Speaker 1: in a costa.
Speaker 3: Genis I like guns? You know there's I'm a stout
Speaker 3: in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4: You Caribbean too, in the Caribbean as a drink, right,
Speaker 4: my aunt told me, because I'm part Beijing myself. My
Speaker 4: aunt told me when I was young, she said, when
Speaker 4: you start dating girls, you're gonna drink this drink you
Speaker 4: gotta take.
Speaker 2: You're talking about.
Speaker 3: Younnis. That was the first tiger bomb.
Speaker 4: Some carnation milk a little bit and eggs, like like
Speaker 4: crack the egg.
Speaker 3: And that's not like you're gonna put it in the Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna go get some shot. The whole band fun up,
Speaker 3: the whole cheeks like no combinations.
Speaker 4: You blended in the blender and then you drink it
Speaker 4: and it's supposed to make that's like the pack. I
Speaker 4: think she was trying to keep you from getting, to
Speaker 4: keep you from getting somebody pregnant. Oldrian like, let me
Speaker 4: drink your own kind of concoctions. King.
Speaker 2: That sounds like bubble gus. Yeah, that's outing.
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy and it does say, of course, YOI
Speaker 1: looked it up.
Speaker 2: It's a Caribbean guinness punch.
Speaker 1: But you also add nutmeg and cinnamon and vanilla extract
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: That sounds like dessert.
Speaker 3: That that that's that. But but what did you put that? Get? Like?
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Kick is today y'all Yo, shout out to the Irish
Speaker 3: frokes man.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I do want to ask you only because in
Speaker 1: terms of this culture, I know that there used to
Speaker 1: be a scary movie when I was growing up with
Speaker 1: a leprechaun that was real scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Caprican was classic, fun nineties.
Speaker 1: Classic, and y'all know, I'm trying not to age this show.
Speaker 1: And then one of my favorite cereal growing up was
Speaker 1: that's really all I know about this culture, and I don't.
Speaker 1: It's it's Lucky charms, Irish. No, that's American. It's General Mills, right.
Speaker 3: The General Mill. Yeah, Irish?
Speaker 2: Do you remember wait? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is gonna be only because commercials used to
Speaker 1: really do their big one with marketing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do you.
Speaker 1: Remember the Order of the Marshmallows? No, no, no, don't
Speaker 1: look it up. But there's a jingle to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a go ahead start heart.
Speaker 1: Stars, horseshoes, clovers, and balloons, yes, that's yeah, butts of
Speaker 1: gold and rainbows, Oh my god, end me red balloons.
Speaker 2: I think they say balloons twice if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Damn, I haven't heard that ship is so long you
Speaker 3: just took.
Speaker 2: By the way. I don't know if there's a little
Speaker 2: jing of a viction, clovers and balloons.
Speaker 3: And rainbows, Irish folk.
Speaker 2: Blue moons, okay, it's blue moons.
Speaker 4: Then balloons they have they have like the beers and
Speaker 4: no mustache, the Irish cats.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, shamans and then be out there by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: I do want to shout out.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was just told that I
Speaker 1: do know an Irish, so shout out to Rory. I Also,
Speaker 1: I also had an ignorant thought. She was like, of
Speaker 1: course he's Irish, that's where the red hair comes.
Speaker 3: Irish Irish as fu.
Speaker 2: Okay, but do all like, are all gingers Irish?
Speaker 3: I thought he was Dominican, all right, Irish ginger. I
Speaker 3: know black, I know black.
Speaker 1: Anyways, before we get into all of our sports topics
Speaker 1: this week, are there any other ignorant thoughts we got?
Speaker 2: Being dressed like lepercuns?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I had to.
Speaker 4: So I went to go get a haircut that I
Speaker 4: planned on, that I planned on rocket that I had
Speaker 4: a nice, a nice haircut that I went and got
Speaker 4: myself trimmed up for being shaggy.
Speaker 3: And then this nigga want me to come in here
Speaker 3: and dress and clectic. Don't worry. So now I'm in
Speaker 3: here in my inclect the outfit. We got some barber
Speaker 3: essentials over here. You know what I mean? Oh, you know, true, true, true,
Speaker 3: You're gonna get that freshery later on, you know.
Speaker 4: But so look, so I understand that nowadays, everybody trying
Speaker 4: to do their business, everybody wants to go viral. Everybody
Speaker 4: needs the Wi fi to help prop up their economy.
Speaker 4: I understand that. But I get to the barber shop,
Speaker 4: I sit in the chair, I'm not even paying attention
Speaker 4: to nothing. And you know, he asked me what I
Speaker 4: want to do? Boom, I give him instructions.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 4: He turns around. He started talking real loud. I'm like,
Speaker 4: why is this nigga talking so loud? All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: I turn around, this nigga is on live stream in
Speaker 4: my haircut.
Speaker 3: This nigga's live. So I'm like, at first, I'm looking,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're not even gonna.
Speaker 4: Ask me if you if I don't want me free right,
Speaker 4: that's that's what I want him now. I want him
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so we're getting money today? Like, what
Speaker 4: you mean we're getting money?
Speaker 3: Money? What you mean you gains? I said, you got
Speaker 3: your you got your law stream up right here? We're
Speaker 3: getting money today? Or what's what's going on? Oh?
Speaker 4: No, no, you know, I'm just trying to get my content, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're trying to get your content? When was you gonna
Speaker 4: to me reduction in that feet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, bro, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: You asked me sixty five dollars for this haircut and
Speaker 4: you want to just make content anyone taking likeness?
Speaker 3: Nigga? What Like? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think that men deal with that too.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it never happened to me. That was the
Speaker 4: first time it ever happened to me. And I was
Speaker 4: like this nigga not even gonna say nothing. He just
Speaker 4: gonna sto.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know I love you?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: How how scruffy? Because the only content I see with.
Speaker 1: Men is when they go in looking real bad and
Speaker 1: then they come out.
Speaker 2: I feel like, how bad?
Speaker 3: No, I was crazy.
Speaker 4: I had picked my whole ship out, so like it
Speaker 4: was like I looked like I was from the nineteen
Speaker 4: six Got.
Speaker 2: To hit you with that before and after, and yeah,
Speaker 2: my beard.
Speaker 3: Was all over the place. He was like the I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: what were we doing?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That's why he put that camera on.
Speaker 1: He said, I need y'all to watch me watch but
Speaker 1: it got worse. So I want him about this.
Speaker 3: I'm a chill out. I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm a chill out. I turned around. At one point
Speaker 4: the Nigga had two viewers in the live. He talking
Speaker 4: to you about, Hey, Tony, come down here. I'm like, Nigga,
Speaker 4: don't nobody nobody's watching this ship? My god, like nobody's
Speaker 4: watching this ship. Turn his fucking camera off. But then
Speaker 4: he tries to hit me with the Steve Harvey.
Speaker 2: What's the steve?
Speaker 3: He pull out?
Speaker 4: He pull out the ninety degree angle piece of plastic,
Speaker 4: pull out the little his little spray bottle.
Speaker 3: It tries to hit me with the enhancements.
Speaker 4: Wait, I got many multiple Yeah, he tried to beaninging
Speaker 4: me out.
Speaker 3: Now was it liquid or with powder? Liquid? That's not
Speaker 3: watch all that I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure he sprayed the first I was like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I got your hairlines, Like, Nigga, I have a hairline.
Speaker 3: My ship is not you try to trade young me.
Speaker 4: Now, like like just line me up and let me
Speaker 4: go about my business.
Speaker 3: But he tried it. I felt, I felt a type
Speaker 3: of way about it.
Speaker 2: That's something that y'all have to actually ask.
Speaker 4: For, you to ask for or he's supposed at least
Speaker 4: ask you, Hey, do you do? Nigga just pulled out
Speaker 4: and just start going like whoa.
Speaker 3: So this is you, This is your normal barber. This
Speaker 3: is a guy.
Speaker 4: So I was cutting my own hair for a long
Speaker 4: time because I was just tired of Barbara, of course,
Speaker 4: but about two months ago I found this dude. He
Speaker 4: cut me real quick on like the last minute, and
Speaker 4: it was a decent cut. Cool, I'll rock with you.
Speaker 4: So this is the third time I sat in his chair.
Speaker 3: Oka, he's new. He's yeah, he's not enough.
Speaker 4: I said, like, they're supposed to ask you like my
Speaker 4: barber shot the goose. He he he doesn't do to.
Speaker 4: There's a difference between the wet and the dry. There's
Speaker 4: a dry either the dry a spray powder right, the
Speaker 4: one someone.
Speaker 2: That looks like it's coming out of the spray paint, right.
Speaker 3: But it depends on how they use it. Brush right.
Speaker 4: You could get a line up and they'll just hit
Speaker 4: enough where and it's just for when you walk out
Speaker 4: the But the liquid joint, now that's a different thing
Speaker 4: because it has to have to spray a out of
Speaker 4: it so it can stay. You're right, and it's gonna
Speaker 4: wash wash off. I'm like you, and then you might
Speaker 4: be allergic. You might be hyper allergetic.
Speaker 3: I could be. Yeah. You're not gonna ask no question.
Speaker 4: Do you mind it? They're supposed to ask you. Yo,
Speaker 4: you mind if I put this? They asked you about alcohol?
Speaker 4: You you want alcohol?
Speaker 2: Hold you? That's crazy, brof the niggas spend the night
Speaker 2: on my pillows.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be tight white ship.
Speaker 1: I don't even think like I would be so upset
Speaker 1: by that. Like if a niggas hair.
Speaker 4: Hairline, imagine after a Mandy session, all that sweat and.
Speaker 3: It went what's the highest and lowest, the highest and lowest? Quick?
Speaker 3: You know, got poked in your booty and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: But the great thing, Manny, the thing is too is
Speaker 4: like if he comes to your crib right after the.
Speaker 3: Haircut with the Beijing you know, I'm not sheets.
Speaker 4: You might not even get a shot thing because mayb
Speaker 4: you're gonna look at this nigga and be like, what
Speaker 4: is that in your like not even that?
Speaker 1: Plus he dried up and I'm calling you Carlos.
Speaker 4: They don't like that one in the comments because they
Speaker 4: was really excited about you.
Speaker 3: They thought you didn't do this for real, y'all.
Speaker 2: Know where full court came.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot every Oh he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that nigga's hair was wiping off on goddamn jerseys.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. That's a little crazy. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: come on, man, come on man, all right, well, let's
Speaker 2: get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into I'm glad that you did wipe that
Speaker 1: shut off because I don't hold you.
Speaker 2: I would have well.
Speaker 3: Camera today, like what are we doing? Right?
Speaker 4: So, Mandy, just so just to add this to most
Speaker 4: bar is now, not all, but a lot of them,
Speaker 4: I would say, over the last five years, they've taken
Speaker 4: the idea of putting ring cameras and ring lights in there,
Speaker 4: all that right, like the big for content.
Speaker 3: Some of them do it the right way, right post
Speaker 3: before and after. Some of them don't. In your case, yeah,
Speaker 3: so that is the thing to me.
Speaker 4: All of those are supposed to be set up ahead
Speaker 4: of time. You about to come and get a cut,
Speaker 4: right cool? Can I record this whole thing? We get
Speaker 4: hot treatments?
Speaker 2: Do y'all say yes? When they asked, can I record you?
Speaker 3: Literally the first time I've ever been recorded at a barber.
Speaker 3: My barber and the girl who break my hair, they do.
Speaker 4: Uh, they'll do before and after they do from the top, okay,
Speaker 4: and it's all discussed before.
Speaker 3: It's not it was whatever, right, Yeah, they do it
Speaker 3: the right way.
Speaker 1: Very very rarely do I say yes, especially if I'm
Speaker 1: a paying customer.
Speaker 3: But the other people you're familiar with, if I'm.
Speaker 1: Paying, not like my my the person that's been doing
Speaker 1: my blonde now for five years, Yeah, yeah, you got it,
Speaker 1: got and she done kept my price, her price from
Speaker 1: five years ago, because it's like yesterday's price is not
Speaker 1: today's price, and she kept it, so that works out.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, if I'm a.
Speaker 3: Pain customer now Vietnam, do not before.
Speaker 2: And after me? Baby? What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Anyways, before and after Technically we spoke about before the
Speaker 1: cancelation of Magic City Night with the Orlando Magic versus
Speaker 1: the Hawks, and we are now in the after part
Speaker 1: of that because they have literally one week before the
Speaker 1: game took place, which was this past Monday, they canceled it.
Speaker 1: So clownery, Okay, you say clownery. I do want to
Speaker 1: share something that the AJAC in terms of how they
Speaker 1: explained why they mixed it. Following the NBA's decision to
Speaker 1: cancel Magic City Monday, the AJAC has invited the Atlantic
Speaker 1: community to sit with something deeper in their collect they
Speaker 1: work as anti trafficking advocates and they've been involved in
Speaker 1: countless cases where traffickers groon, recorded, or forced women to
Speaker 1: work at strip clubs and took all of the money
Speaker 1: that those women earned. So here is the invitation that
Speaker 1: the AJAC put it to the hawks of the NBA,
Speaker 1: to city leaders, and to anyone who found themselves thinking
Speaker 1: about these questions.
Speaker 2: We invite you into this conversation.
Speaker 1: We want to work together, learn from another, and search
Speaker 1: for real solutions to address the systems that allow exploitation
Speaker 1: to flourish. Now really interesting because during our conversations the
Speaker 1: idea of sex trafficking wasn't really brought.
Speaker 2: To our attention. I'm not sure in what space this became.
Speaker 1: The reasoning that the NBA nixed it as much as
Speaker 1: they just kept leaning into the fact that this is
Speaker 1: a family brand.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Ironically and hilariously enough, the same week there was a
Speaker 1: Crown Royal Night that was promoted, and so of course
Speaker 1: the internet also compared the two, like, are we also
Speaker 1: enticing children to drink alcohol and make it seem like,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: It's cool and fun?
Speaker 2: And I will say where I sat with this.
Speaker 1: It was just another way that I realized that women
Speaker 1: are just not celebrated in any of their life decisions.
Speaker 1: As a sexually liberated being, You're looked at as the
Speaker 1: most disgusting, most vile person and that there is no
Speaker 1: reason to celebrate you. And so I know that we
Speaker 1: leaned into the Magic City wings in the kitchen. I
Speaker 1: know that we leaned into even the performance element of TI,
Speaker 1: which t I still did perform and is performing for halftime.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, wow, this caused such a
Speaker 1: Sirmind you look the the white boy in al Horford.
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas weren't even gonna be playing at all.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why y'all had to speak to
Speaker 1: but it like heavily weighed with me that I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't. But also
Speaker 1: like a sexually liberated woman is not one to celebrate.
Speaker 2: A woman who chooses this path.
Speaker 1: Is not celebrated, ironically in the same league and amongst
Speaker 1: the powerful men who are deviantly led by sex, led
Speaker 1: by lust. I was I will say my opinion on
Speaker 1: them actually canceling this. The reason why I thought it
Speaker 1: was terrible is only because they weren't refunding tickets, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people bought these at an accelerated rate
Speaker 1: compared to what maybe you could get Hawks tickets for
Speaker 1: the low but like basically where you could honestly go
Speaker 1: to a game for thirty dollars, those same thirty dollars
Speaker 1: tickets were going for two hundred plus. Yep, they didn't
Speaker 1: issue refunds. And for me, they also let people know
Speaker 1: a week before, like people have travel plans.
Speaker 2: People were flying in for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be a thing.
Speaker 2: This was gonna be a huge thing.
Speaker 1: Now I'm mad that they canceled it because again, I've
Speaker 1: been seeing NBA dancers with they tits and ass in
Speaker 1: my face since I was a young one.
Speaker 2: I just came on here talking about All Star Weekend,
Speaker 2: how it's a part of the thing, and I want
Speaker 2: the sexy girls on the court.
Speaker 1: So this is just like, eh, it's leaning hypocritical to me.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know y'alls thoughts.
Speaker 3: I got a problem with this on multiple levels.
Speaker 2: I'm not even the canceling of it or the throwing
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: The canceling or the throwing.
Speaker 2: Of this night where do you? Oh?
Speaker 3: No, I have a probably with the canceling of it. Talk,
Speaker 3: I have a problem with the canceling of it.
Speaker 4: Before I say anything else, I'll say that I'm never
Speaker 4: gonna rock with the whatever the conservative Christian point of
Speaker 4: view is, I'm never gonna.
Speaker 2: Rock with that period, no off top.
Speaker 4: I'm on the other side of that, and like a
Speaker 4: lot of you, niggas are participating in that.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of the reaction to this reminded me
Speaker 3: of when people.
Speaker 4: See like gay couples, gay sex scenes, gay kissing in movies.
Speaker 3: And how am I supposed to play in this to matildren?
Speaker 3: You know, ma, children, you gotta be men kissing men,
Speaker 3: And what am I supposed to say to my children?
Speaker 3: You could just stop being a punk as.
Speaker 4: Parent and just tell your child, Hey, niggas is gay,
Speaker 4: so men like men. Some women like women or people
Speaker 4: love with it, whatever you want to give it as
Speaker 4: you can keep it real simple.
Speaker 2: And in this case, some women decide to.
Speaker 3: Dance or even if you don't want to go down
Speaker 3: that route.
Speaker 4: And Magic City is a place for adults. The same way,
Speaker 4: if your child want to they wanted to go see
Speaker 4: an L rated movie, you say, hey, you can't go
Speaker 4: see Diehard too, because that's an adult movie. When you
Speaker 4: get old enough, you can go, but it is a
Speaker 4: movie that has violence in it. Or what's it magic City?
Speaker 4: It's people are dancing and having fun and drinking alcohol.
Speaker 4: It's it's not for you play for a dotes. It's
Speaker 4: really that simple. So all of that, like what am
Speaker 4: I supposed to tell my kids? Like that's some bullshit?
Speaker 4: Like you say.
Speaker 2: That too, because what about the ones of us with
Speaker 2: no kids.
Speaker 1: Going to a basketball game is also an adult thing
Speaker 1: to do too. We go, we like to have fun,
Speaker 1: we drinking our beers, we eating the bullshit food and
Speaker 1: we shouldn't eat. It's also, while there is a family
Speaker 1: friendly element to it, who the fuck is paying for
Speaker 1: the tickets the adults? So having even this adult centre
Speaker 1: night is what's the problem. It's like what are we
Speaker 1: You're catering to both people.
Speaker 3: It was as sanitized as it could possibly be.
Speaker 4: It was just the word Magic City, like there was
Speaker 4: nothing lude or lurid.
Speaker 3: About to happen.
Speaker 4: But you know, but a lot of these people carry
Speaker 4: this shit as if something something wild was gonna happen,
Speaker 4: or it was gonna be something that was going to
Speaker 4: fuck up the kids, or whatever the case is. But
Speaker 4: beyond that, I have the real problem I have with
Speaker 4: it is like this slick ass wording that they try
Speaker 4: to use to justify what they're talking about. They keep
Speaker 4: talking about exploitation and trafficking unless you have a specific
Speaker 4: charge that you're levying against Magic City or a woman
Speaker 4: that's coming for you saying this shouldn't be doing this
Speaker 4: because XYZ woman has come forth to say she's being trafficked,
Speaker 4: whatever the case is, to just put that on.
Speaker 3: Magic City is a legal business. It is.
Speaker 4: Magic City is not a speak easy, it's not a
Speaker 4: juke joint. It's not some down low yet to find.
Speaker 4: If you know, you know, this is a legal business
Speaker 4: that have been paying taxes and operating this city forty years.
Speaker 3: It's not a criminal enterprise.
Speaker 4: If you don't like the idea of strippers and sex
Speaker 4: and all of that. Then that's fine, But your religious
Speaker 4: dogma doesn't have nothing to do with what businesses and
Speaker 4: corporations should be doing or what you should be doing
Speaker 4: with your own kids. Like, you make those decisions, and
Speaker 4: those are your decisions. But to try to make it
Speaker 4: like Magic City should be looked into for like a
Speaker 4: rico charge because they're trafficking women. Those are grown ass
Speaker 4: Black women who made grown ass decisions about what they
Speaker 4: want to do. Yeah, and your Christian conservative lens is
Speaker 4: so myopic that you think you can't even fathom the
Speaker 4: idea that a woman would want to do sex for
Speaker 4: money in your mind, that's unfathomable unless you're being tricked
Speaker 4: or being coerced in some kind of way. And it's like, no,
Speaker 4: black people aren't stupid. People can make their own decisions,
Speaker 4: and if these women decided to dance to make their money,
Speaker 4: that's their decision. They don't have nothing to do with you.
Speaker 4: Don't use Jesus as the spiritual shield for you to
Speaker 4: practice your ism, your misogyny, or whatever your thing is.
Speaker 4: Like to me, that just makes me think that you
Speaker 4: don't think much of these black women because you think basically,
Speaker 4: they're too stupid to do this. There's no way they
Speaker 4: would do this unless someone was making them a victim
Speaker 4: of something.
Speaker 1: And what I was looking up real quick too, did
Speaker 1: these charges because even in terms of trafficking, that was
Speaker 1: like a question. But like all these athletes and flew
Speaker 1: out some women for some pussies.
Speaker 2: Like Zion.
Speaker 1: I think that that's the other conversation that is, like,
Speaker 1: if we're really leaning on caring about these women, and
Speaker 1: then why is there not in any sort of approach
Speaker 1: to making sure their players aren't in these establishments or
Speaker 1: making sure that the league is not attached or associated
Speaker 1: with any mind you fucking Paul George's wife now, which
Speaker 1: don't know how they made it. There was a stripper
Speaker 1: from Tutsis and he tried to offer her mad money
Speaker 1: for an abortion.
Speaker 2: They not got four kids and they're married.
Speaker 1: But like a lot of these men are also married
Speaker 1: to former dancers. They go and celebrate at these plays.
Speaker 4: All those popular players in the league have been seen
Speaker 4: in strip clubs, taking pictures, in music videos, in strip clubs,
Speaker 4: all kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: You have a person that now also is an analyst
Speaker 1: and speaks about the game who literally has a wing
Speaker 1: flavor named after him in this establishment?
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? You're with them canceling it?
Speaker 3: Yes? Explain why? Sure? Explain why?
Speaker 4: Why are we surprised in the society we live in
Speaker 4: today would accept that we have to play ball.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: They accept everything we gotta play right that that they
Speaker 4: accept everything else that they can control.
Speaker 3: Right. Since we're doing St.
Speaker 4: Patti's right, We're going to give you some Irish translations.
Speaker 3: Here we go. They don't want the dark little ones.
Speaker 4: The dark little ones want them running up in the
Speaker 4: State Farm Arena with the aura and energy of what
Speaker 4: Magic City represents.
Speaker 1: Do you think I was about to say, you've been.
Speaker 2: I see uteruses and cheeks on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: So many areolas.
Speaker 1: They dress so like if if we really cared about
Speaker 1: this being a family friendly thing.
Speaker 2: Now we're about to sound real old job.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you State Farm Marena would at least
Speaker 1: have a dress code, because baby, you are seeing coochie
Speaker 1: lips and as cheeks.
Speaker 2: You're a regular Milwaukee Bucks game right.
Speaker 3: But a few things.
Speaker 1: The establishments ran by a black man.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, I'm not telling my magic the
Speaker 3: NBA the product.
Speaker 4: Okay, they have border directors and they have all these
Speaker 4: other layers and advocate for these type of knights and whatever.
Speaker 4: I could see a scenario where somebody was in that
Speaker 4: board like yo, you know, but we could frame it differently,
Speaker 4: and it was probably some like I don't know, from
Speaker 4: them for them, and they said all right, they greenlited.
Speaker 4: But now possibly corporate sponsors who don't like the dark
Speaker 4: looked through ones, right, they probably like, yeah, you're really
Speaker 4: going to do this ship. Yes, we know it's not
Speaker 4: the strip of stripped thing, but boom, it's the energy,
Speaker 4: it's the aura, it's the what it represents. I know
Speaker 4: it's contradictory because of what you said, right, but they
Speaker 4: ultimately have the when it comes to us and that ship,
Speaker 4: it's just we're never gonna be on the winning side
Speaker 4: of that conversation, so we shouldn't expect to have it.
Speaker 3: The fact that they say yes and was able.
Speaker 4: To pull that back and say no, that's that's haha.
Speaker 3: We still run this ship, niggas. I feel like they don't.
Speaker 4: I feel like they care about money more than they
Speaker 4: care about all of that. And this Magic City Night
Speaker 4: was already basically what you're talking about with the inflated tickets.
Speaker 3: They were about to make a bunch of money.
Speaker 4: And you know what would have been the headlines on
Speaker 4: Tuesday morning, That administration that's creating these conflicts abroad. They
Speaker 4: would have focused on that with long ass Twitter feed.
Speaker 3: It's over there.
Speaker 1: I mean, but but Trump got something to say about
Speaker 1: every motherfucking thing.
Speaker 2: Don't know how to get that what the Orange SHEETO
Speaker 2: got to say?
Speaker 4: I think we do because we know there's gonna be
Speaker 4: some outlandish ass ship. I don't even think I think
Speaker 4: that like Luke Cornett and our war for coach signing it,
Speaker 4: Richard Jefferson talking about it on on D one making
Speaker 4: this song and his music video, and.
Speaker 2: Either Today.
Speaker 3: Is lame.
Speaker 1: I literally had D one. I was like, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Because he was doing so much. I was like, are
Speaker 1: you really upset like with this? Like I was, I
Speaker 1: was concerned, but this was we think the opposite on everything.
Speaker 1: But I was like, there's no way you're really this
Speaker 1: upset about this night.
Speaker 2: But you're right. He put out like three songs.
Speaker 4: It was like.
Speaker 3: Proud of himself.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, so culturally, do we lose anything by
Speaker 4: not having the night?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's I don't think we lose.
Speaker 4: Okay, but no, I don't think it's a matter of
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a winner lost thing for the culture.
Speaker 4: If Atlanta was a top seed team in the East,
Speaker 4: do you think it would have they would have DoD Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so too. I think if they were the
Speaker 4: top three seed.
Speaker 2: Wasn't even a televised game, was it?
Speaker 3: No? Probably not?
Speaker 4: And and also let's be super clear about this, like this,
Speaker 4: this was conceptualized by a rich, rich, rich white woman.
Speaker 4: M So, this wasn't no like old niggas think they're
Speaker 4: gonna pull the wool like. Jamie Gertz is the principal
Speaker 4: owner of the Atlanta Hawks. She produced the Magic City documentary,
Speaker 4: and she is white as white, white white.
Speaker 3: She's from Let me.
Speaker 4: So like, this wasn't no ship where niggas was trying
Speaker 4: to pull the wool over the eyes.
Speaker 3: Jamie ger like you like frosh.
Speaker 2: She looks like she has three biracial kids.
Speaker 1: I don't want a bunch of Jalen's but.
Speaker 3: A bunch of Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know who her husband is, Tony Wrestler, Okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: it smells like her and the people at the Hawks.
Speaker 3: The conception that really put this thing together.
Speaker 4: This is not no like Nigga, this is like something
Speaker 4: that she genuinely doesn't feel like there's a problem with it.
Speaker 4: And so like again, I'm never gonna be on the
Speaker 4: side of the Christian conservative POV like once that comes
Speaker 4: into play, I'm out because all that shit is is
Speaker 4: a shield to just practice whatever it is you want
Speaker 4: to practice and hide behind Jesus and say, what is
Speaker 4: what Jesus? What's Jesus business? You ain't Jesus yo. Miss Gertz, Hey, listen,
Speaker 4: we support you. And if you ever want to take
Speaker 4: us out to Magic City because you eat wings with
Speaker 4: Jamie gert said, we will.
Speaker 3: Happily accompany you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She's they said she's eight billion dollars richer than Oprah Winfrey.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask let me ask both of you all
Speaker 1: the questions. Let me ask you both of you all a
Speaker 1: question a king specifically, actually, since you have more of
Speaker 1: the conservative lends here. No, I'm curious if Magic City
Speaker 1: is something that you don't want celebrated.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you feel like would cause
Speaker 2: this much outrage?
Speaker 3: Be me clarsified not that I want it.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, let's look at it from the lens
Speaker 4: of the powers that be who are in control of
Speaker 4: this thing, and why we should manage our expectations when
Speaker 4: it comes to these asks from those people. Because you
Speaker 4: mentioned it and when you was saying, you know that
Speaker 4: you was for it, that the Christian conservative society is
Speaker 4: not going yeah, so we shouldn't expect them to go no.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but they'll tolerate. But it's ship But but
Speaker 4: that's my problem though, the hypocrisy of it. Be like
Speaker 4: a sin is a sin is to say, if you're
Speaker 4: that Christian, you're that about the Bible, and you're that
Speaker 4: about Jesus, A sin is a sin is a sin. Technically,
Speaker 4: Jesus doesn't look at you opening your pussy lips any
Speaker 4: different than he looks at murder or stealing or lying.
Speaker 4: It's all the same. A sin is the sin is
Speaker 4: all of this inens you the hell. So the idea
Speaker 4: that this sex is weighted differently, so much weighted differently
Speaker 4: in it's this society where these people try to act
Speaker 4: as if sex is like the worst sin. If you're horney,
Speaker 4: if you're lusty, if you have any of that on
Speaker 4: you like, that is the worst thing you can be.
Speaker 4: If you're a whore harlot, that's the worst thing you
Speaker 4: can be. You can work your way back from all
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 2: Jebel They don't want to have the Jezebel.
Speaker 3: Sphere right, no more?
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, but it's like y'all are treating sex as
Speaker 4: if it's very different and the only thing that I
Speaker 4: can I can the only way I can rationalize that
Speaker 4: is through misogyny.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you that this reminds me right now?
Speaker 1: I think more people talked about this promotional night than
Speaker 1: they have any other game this whole season. This got
Speaker 1: more press than All Star weekended a thousand and this
Speaker 1: is where I'm like, is the game right now that bad?
Speaker 1: Because this past week the conversation was about Bam one
Speaker 1: Bio scoring eighty three.
Speaker 2: First off, I've been doing this for a little shit.
Speaker 2: I know how to do a little transition.
Speaker 4: I was I was gonna add something to repent.
Speaker 1: Well, everyone has now been upset with this eighty three
Speaker 1: point game. Yes, that Bam had now here is what
Speaker 1: the critics have focus on. I'm going to bring up
Speaker 1: with the critics and folks on then we'll share our
Speaker 1: thoughts and see where we fall on the mix. By
Speaker 1: the way, Google has compettis when you.
Speaker 2: Look him up.
Speaker 1: If you were literally at your desk right now typing
Speaker 1: Bam out of bio because a lot of you probably
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Who this nigga is. We'll get into that too.
Speaker 1: He now here is the criticism the fact that Abayi
Speaker 1: stayed in the game during the blowout to chase the record,
Speaker 1: that the heat intentionally fouled and created extra possessions to
Speaker 1: help him score more, and that he attempted forty three
Speaker 1: free throws, which fueled accusations of stat padding. Now head
Speaker 1: coach Eric Spoltra defended defended the decision and said that
Speaker 1: he apologizes to absolutely.
Speaker 2: No one period.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I was laid out with my
Speaker 1: nigga and he was like, he was like, yo, did
Speaker 1: you see what Bam did tonight?
Speaker 3: And I was like nah.
Speaker 2: He was like, if you had to guess how many
Speaker 2: points he.
Speaker 1: Scored, what do you bet LIKEA I said thirty eight,
Speaker 1: which is ironic because.
Speaker 2: Said thirty eight. So he goes to pull up. He
Speaker 2: was like, don't look at the video. Don't look at
Speaker 2: the video.
Speaker 1: He goes to screenshirt things so he can watch it
Speaker 1: on TV. And so we watched him score every point.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he had thirty eight like in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Something stupid thirty something in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: So we keep watching it. Halftime comes, I think he
Speaker 1: is I don't know, sixty maybe.
Speaker 2: At the half something ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And as I keep watching it, he's in his seventies.
Speaker 1: By the third quarter, they're up by twenty something points,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why is he still in the game.
Speaker 1: I literally asked this question, said, why is he still
Speaker 1: in the game? Any other star player starter, if you
Speaker 1: are up by this much in a game by this point.
Speaker 2: Bow out gracefully.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happens, and you sit chass down,
Speaker 1: and then you watch a whole bunch of niggas that
Speaker 1: never get in the game throw bricks at the goddamn
Speaker 1: courn Okay, So I was like, Wow, he's still in
Speaker 1: And so then as we're in the fourth quarter, all
Speaker 1: the way down to the last minute, we see him
Speaker 1: chasing this record. Now the record is, of course Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: who scored.
Speaker 4: Eighty one and second Chamberlain Will Chamberlain, Yeah, don't count
Speaker 4: he scored over one hundred.
Speaker 3: We're not here. We're not do we not No, we're
Speaker 3: not getting no, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: We're not doing what.
Speaker 4: We're not going. That's the problem. The Frameman has been
Speaker 4: crazy because people keep talking about Kobe's record. I'm like, Kobe,
Speaker 4: we don't have no record.
Speaker 3: Kobe was number two. You don't get on record for
Speaker 3: being number two.
Speaker 4: But at this nigga as if he did the thing,
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, Well Chamberlain did the thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, well in a different era, a very different
Speaker 1: eraror very different era.
Speaker 3: This caveats to all of this.
Speaker 1: By the way, real quick, real quick, if I'm not mistaken, now,
Speaker 1: Will did score thirty one points in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and fifty nine in the second half. Right, But what
Speaker 1: was different about the game back then as to why
Speaker 1: we questioned it, because I see.
Speaker 4: They wasn't doing three points every fucking shot a two
Speaker 4: point range game and all that layups, real ship, And
Speaker 4: then people always make the argument about the level of athleticism,
Speaker 4: how good the players were in a certain area.
Speaker 3: You only play who was in front of you, right,
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't.
Speaker 4: That's why you can't compare when it's the when Jordan
Speaker 4: was playing a lot of hand checking. There's no hand
Speaker 4: checking now, right, So the theory would be it as
Speaker 4: easier to score a buckets now. So plus, if it
Speaker 4: was that easy, a bunch of Nigga would have scored
Speaker 4: a hundred points.
Speaker 1: A lot of them have scored seventy's a lot of
Speaker 1: seventy points.
Speaker 3: Three every shot.
Speaker 2: Quite a few players who have dame. Okay, now you
Speaker 2: said who gets credit for being number two? I did
Speaker 2: have a thought about this. Do you also.
Speaker 1: Feel like everyone was so upset that he chased this
Speaker 1: record because of the untimely passing of Kobe, and how
Speaker 1: we still honor Kobe.
Speaker 2: And we liked that Kobe got that.
Speaker 1: It's like, I feel like that's a part of it
Speaker 1: because I'm just like But also, if we compare the two, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think this much criticism comes from a Curry
Speaker 1: if he gets it. I don't even think if kd
Speaker 1: gets it, it comes from that if Jalen. I think
Speaker 1: also the fact that a lot of people this isn't
Speaker 1: a popular in the league, not even their highest scoring
Speaker 1: all Starry, He's not.
Speaker 2: A super star.
Speaker 1: Three Now, for me, I thought it was cool. I say,
Speaker 1: eighty three kind of cool. I do think he should
Speaker 1: have went out, so I get a little bit of
Speaker 1: that upset. I didn't expect the outrage that I've seen
Speaker 1: online around it, because records are meant to be broken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen. What is two things? A bam
Speaker 3: had seventy by the third or so.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like they just did some bullshit at the
Speaker 4: end and gave the nigga forty five points in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter end to try to make something crazy. He
Speaker 4: was already whooping these niggas ass As a solo individual performer,
Speaker 4: they couldn't do on. He was just on, and once
Speaker 4: he got to a certain point, I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: you could have taken him out. But also, this kind
Speaker 4: of thing happens in sports all the time. When when
Speaker 4: Michael Strahan got the sack record to beat Reggie White,
Speaker 4: when Ritt Fark just like basically collapsing straight hand touched
Speaker 4: his shoulder, I got a sack.
Speaker 3: I break the record.
Speaker 4: This happens all the time in basketball other sports where
Speaker 4: if you're that close to it, your teammates and your coach,
Speaker 4: if you're that close to it naturally, they want to
Speaker 4: help you out, get.
Speaker 3: You to the over the top.
Speaker 4: But Kobe, there's a big reason, Like niggas love Kobe,
Speaker 4: and like they can't world something too.
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned him outing seventy and the third y
Speaker 1: only pulled something up. But the fact that Wilt Chamberlain's
Speaker 1: game also wasn't televised. People imagine it as a pure
Speaker 1: one hundred with uninterrupted domination from start to finish, right,
Speaker 1: But people are saying that there is also a historic
Speaker 1: number of people that attended the arena that said it
Speaker 1: was very reminiscent of what Bam.
Speaker 3: Did didn't during that time.
Speaker 2: Where they pretty much let him.
Speaker 3: You can't one hundred points with no help, Like nobody's
Speaker 3: that damn about.
Speaker 4: I think like the players identify that he's on a
Speaker 4: different sphere right now. Yeah, and they just kept feeding
Speaker 4: the beast until and once they saw there was a
Speaker 4: there wasn't any disruption and how he was playing.
Speaker 3: He's, yo, we're just gonna le him, let him have it.
Speaker 4: And I think once you get to seventy two as
Speaker 4: a coach, he's like, you know what, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to I'm not going to stand in the way. It
Speaker 4: is now, I don't I think. Now, let me ask
Speaker 4: you something. If I don't know how he revered Kobe,
Speaker 4: but I know other players they hold Kobe to that
Speaker 4: godly If it was one of those players, if they
Speaker 4: had a guy to eighty two, you think they would
Speaker 4: have just said, yo, I don't want to break my
Speaker 4: man's right.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Eighty one, eighty one, sorry eight, you think they would
Speaker 4: have fell back?
Speaker 2: Good question, would you beat your if you love?
Speaker 4: If you love Kobe Bryant, I was a Kobe hater
Speaker 4: mind to I want to see Kobe lose every single
Speaker 4: game he ever because what though, because he was so good?
Speaker 3: No, I just thought he was a sucker. Oh him.
Speaker 3: We'd be a sports fan and just be like, oh,
Speaker 3: fuck him.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, but here's the thing about it, Like, no,
Speaker 4: if you love Kobe Bryant like that, and you're in
Speaker 4: the mama mentality, Kobe Bryant is gonna shoot you in
Speaker 4: your forehead in front of your grandmam, and.
Speaker 3: It'd be like, all, well, nigga, that's Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4: So like you can't bitch up because like that's what
Speaker 4: Kobe would want you to.
Speaker 3: Over and it is what it is.
Speaker 4: So if you're a Kobe fan like that, that's what
Speaker 4: you're supposed to got a hot take.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad. I'm not.
Speaker 2: You're just mad because this would have been a clip.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The FBA community is here, we go, there we go. Uh.
Speaker 3: Kobe was born in Italy. Bamit the FBA before you
Speaker 3: even right the NBA. Nigga want Italy Millennium side is
Speaker 3: the straight American?
Speaker 2: They say Philly, right, they say Lower Mary just like
Speaker 2: Lower Marria.
Speaker 4: He's from He's from Philly, all right to you whatever
Speaker 4: house Lower Marion to South Philly like to Beanie Sea
Speaker 4: on them.
Speaker 3: Lower Marion is like.
Speaker 4: Like if I want to see how nigga in the
Speaker 4: same way that that Almeretta was like, if you're from Riverdale, nigga,
Speaker 4: you're not from Atlanta.
Speaker 3: How far is Riverdale from Atlanta? Twenty minutes? Riverdale is right?
Speaker 3: Airport is the airport college park? Right? So Kobe right
Speaker 3: there he was down with state property a little bit.
Speaker 3: So Bam is Nigerian?
Speaker 1: Oh got Kobe Bryant was not born in Italy. Was
Speaker 1: born in Philadelphia, So so the FBA community. He moved
Speaker 1: to Italy when he was six, So my SI and
Speaker 1: he got there. Thanks for Thanks for yeo me with
Speaker 1: the fact check.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead with your hot taking.
Speaker 4: The foundation of Black Americans. Are not the happy that
Speaker 4: this Nigerian born NBA player broke this foundation of Black
Speaker 4: Americans right because they're not going to appreciate the historical
Speaker 4: context of.
Speaker 3: Being ahead of Kobe the right way, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So with those same FBAs have endured Kobe dealing with
Speaker 4: white women, They've been cool with that.
Speaker 3: Time in circumstance. Time opportunity creates circumstance.
Speaker 2: It's funny because he brought up the white woman.
Speaker 1: I actually loved this Nigerian king brought his woman to
Speaker 1: the podium.
Speaker 2: Right there.
Speaker 1: Was happy because mind you, there was also people talking
Speaker 1: about that, but they don't be saying nothing about these
Speaker 1: badass kids that be being brought to the podium.
Speaker 2: So I love that he brought his black woman and.
Speaker 1: Sat her to take in on this celebration with us.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was really dope. And she also
Speaker 1: holds the record of a highest scoring game for.
Speaker 3: The w W.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was bullshitting with the what I said, But
Speaker 4: the thing is, it's primarily because of the Kobe fandom. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we thought that that record would never or that
Speaker 4: that his position would never be no one would ever
Speaker 4: be number two. Yeah, I mean, Jackson Jr. Was mad
Speaker 4: as hell that Nigga was on a crazy Twitter rant
Speaker 4: going in about how angry he was.
Speaker 2: That that was really weird.
Speaker 3: No, but that's but that's just just that just goes
Speaker 3: to show how much we're invested in our favorite players.
Speaker 4: That's just what Jordan's same thing with Jordan's Jordan is
Speaker 4: that's what and Lebron, those are those are.
Speaker 3: People stand out for them.
Speaker 1: This was this I will say what I thought about
Speaker 1: this and why it was so interesting to me is
Speaker 1: because the league is so heavily invested, and a lot
Speaker 1: of you are heavily invested in the gambling aspects of this.
Speaker 1: So we're actively seeing teams tank right now, yep, so
Speaker 1: that they can have higher picks in the lottery or.
Speaker 3: Right. And and I bring up this this scenario with
Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 2: Where's the competition and the Wizards even wanting this to
Speaker 2: happen against.
Speaker 4: And they just got Antonio and Anthony Davis and so
Speaker 4: y'all not going to play these guys could did they no, no, no,
Speaker 4: because they want to do exactly what you said, which
Speaker 4: which was which Adam Silva addressed, and he said, next
Speaker 4: year they'll be implementing right anti rookies. And oh, in
Speaker 4: regards to the free throws, that bam bam can't call
Speaker 4: us on files, that's true too, like the bamb can't call.
Speaker 3: Us on foule.
Speaker 4: So if the refs called that many files, is that abnormal?
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that's abnormal. That's because the other team was
Speaker 4: trying to stop him, trying to stop him for getting
Speaker 4: the record, So it's like, what do y'all want him
Speaker 4: to do? Like plus, not to mention he only scored
Speaker 4: eighty three, but the nigga between free throws and field
Speaker 4: goals and three pointers, he missed like thirty shots. Like
Speaker 4: he was like twenty for forty. It was crazy seven
Speaker 4: for twenty two, so he could have scored a hundred soft.
Speaker 4: I got to see a hut. It's easy.
Speaker 3: Country ass Atlanta ass.
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards asked, oh, gosh, did the balls in your court?
Speaker 3: Bro? You gotta get eighty five? Now what? At some
Speaker 3: point within his career he got to do you know
Speaker 3: what's crazy?
Speaker 2: The last person I want celebrated. Why, oh, Anthony ed nigga?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: First off, he's not a present father, he has accuations.
Speaker 2: Against him with women.
Speaker 1: The fact that they keep trying to make this nigga
Speaker 1: also the face of the league is crazy, Like I
Speaker 1: think true, It's just weird that this is who we
Speaker 1: have as someone to to platform right now, Like mind you, Well,
Speaker 1: the league just wants to keep talking about how corny
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown is. He's he's right now being discussed as
Speaker 1: number seven for the MVP options. That's insane, And it's
Speaker 1: just like and then and then also the whole league
Speaker 1: talking about how boring Jason Tatum isn't why he don't
Speaker 1: didn't get accolades. Yet there's no controversy around him. He
Speaker 1: clearly brings his brings deuce to every game. But yet
Speaker 1: we want to keep making the face of the league
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, who said here goes your money for eighteen years,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be a part of that
Speaker 1: baby's life, and then to made kids with x y
Speaker 1: Z Elementop. We want to keep talking about Nick Cannon
Speaker 1: making all these broken homes.
Speaker 2: Yet we want to platform Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: As the face of the NBA while also not allowing
Speaker 1: us to promote Magic City. The hypocrisy and all of
Speaker 1: this is like we care when we do, but we
Speaker 1: don't when we don't.
Speaker 3: And that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Even you want to, I don't want.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I was unaware about the uh that stuff. Honestly, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I knew he was a deadbie dad.
Speaker 1: He was a super dead Bee dad and literally literally
Speaker 1: took took the woman to court and said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pay you this much money for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Here you have it in one lumps some payment.
Speaker 3: I don't never, never ever talked to me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to you. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be in this child.
Speaker 1: Life wild that is that is nuts, and that's the
Speaker 1: person we interesting.
Speaker 3: I didn't make the league.
Speaker 4: And he says it too, he said that's why I
Speaker 4: was drawing that from his assessment of himself.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, though.
Speaker 4: The when it comes to that face of the league thing,
Speaker 4: I feel like there are standards of morality that you
Speaker 4: can get away with that aren't necessarily crimes that they
Speaker 4: will still give people platforms too, Like you can be
Speaker 4: a bad person and not necessarily have committed a violent
Speaker 4: or sexually related crime, and they will still be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: he's an asshole that has some asshole ship with him,
Speaker 4: but like we'll still that's.
Speaker 3: His business, that's not our business. Right, they're separated. They
Speaker 3: will separate that ship in a heart.
Speaker 1: Now, let's be very clear. Anything in regards to mistreatment.
Speaker 4: Of a woman, they're more than happy.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that we are celebrating even doctor Dre
Speaker 1: constantly becoming he just became a millionaire. But the celebration
Speaker 1: of doctor Dre, Yeah, multiple women that came out and
Speaker 1: said that he would be what cares. No one cares
Speaker 1: about dead beat dads. No one cares about abuse. There's
Speaker 1: no like if you were great at basketball or rapping
Speaker 1: or making beans, that's of.
Speaker 2: Being a bad person in those spaces. It just is
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest with you. That leads us
Speaker 1: to our next fucking topic. Like James Pearce Jr. There
Speaker 1: are literal videos of James Pierce Junior literally refusing arrest,
Speaker 1: going against seven cops, being aggressive in front of a
Speaker 1: police station, tried to run over not just any woman
Speaker 1: but also a well known woman.
Speaker 4: And more famous than him, and yeah, so I see
Speaker 4: the video. That's I read. I read, we read last week,
Speaker 4: we read everything, but we.
Speaker 1: Now no, no, no, there's video of him resisting arrest. Mind you,
Speaker 1: he tried to hit her with his lambeau in front
Speaker 1: of the police station.
Speaker 2: Now, y'all.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons rusher James Pierce Junior had four charges brought
Speaker 1: against him by the Miami Dade State Attorney regarding the
Speaker 1: February incident with NBA player Rakia Jackson. The twenty two
Speaker 1: year old Pierce, who did play at Tennessee, has been
Speaker 1: charged with only three felonies. Those charges are aggravated battery
Speaker 1: with a deadly weapon, fleeing and e looting police, and
Speaker 1: resisting an officer. However, the fourth felony charge, which is
Speaker 1: aggravated stocking felony aggravated stocking was just switched to misdemeanor.
Speaker 1: He was arrested and held over night, but of course
Speaker 1: was even given a bond and posting twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and was released. So he's since been released.
Speaker 2: He harassed her, he chased her down with his vehicle,
Speaker 2: tried to hit her, and is out out free sleep
Speaker 2: in his own better.
Speaker 3: I mean here's the thing, right, Like, and we are
Speaker 3: moving from.
Speaker 2: The NBA to the NFL.
Speaker 1: But I think, like I said, overall, I combined even again, rappers, producers,
Speaker 1: anyone who is seen as great even within our community
Speaker 1: and beyond. Right because sports is not just limited to
Speaker 1: black the black community, but when you were great at something,
Speaker 1: the things that you do kind of get looked over.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, And like James Pearce Jr.
Speaker 4: There's no there hasn't been any word whether the Falcons
Speaker 4: will cut him. I think I think he will get
Speaker 4: cut ultimately because I don't know that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Wait, there's a lot happening with your team. Did they
Speaker 1: just cut because of some other behavior? Wasn't a coach
Speaker 1: or something just cut from the Falcons?
Speaker 3: He was?
Speaker 4: He was like he was a not even assistant coach.
Speaker 4: He was like a I think he was a not
Speaker 4: a wide receivers coach. I forget what his position was.
Speaker 4: He was like a film random film room but something
Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, he got he got cut for
Speaker 4: it was some type of sexual text that he sent
Speaker 4: to some woman or harassing somewhere with all types of
Speaker 4: pictures and photos he was sending the US some wild shit.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he got sent home.
Speaker 4: James Perce Junior will probably get cut the charge that
Speaker 4: the two serious charges that was going to probably land
Speaker 4: him in prison were dropped. So I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know how they'll do their calculus on that, but
Speaker 4: I think for their I think they have to cut
Speaker 4: them A because of the behavior. B because you're not
Speaker 4: going to be able to really justify this beyond just
Speaker 4: like we don't care. And I don't know if Arthur
Speaker 4: Blank has the stomach for we don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I did want to add, By the way, the coach
Speaker 1: was Troy Lewis. He was the estas defensive line coach
Speaker 1: and he recently got let go after following reports of
Speaker 1: sexual assault, rape and physical battery from a December twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four incident with a staff member at the University
Speaker 1: of Michigan.
Speaker 3: He was because he was Sharon Moore's home.
Speaker 2: More also, and I think we discussed it. They dropped
Speaker 2: all of those charges, Yeah, because they found some holes in.
Speaker 3: The plutnsistency with the girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some inconsistency, some some police dereliction of duties that
Speaker 4: they didn't do their part. I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 4: you can get away with a lot of crimes if
Speaker 4: all the things aren't in place, even if you did
Speaker 4: that ship, like, yeah, how horny can you be that
Speaker 4: you just lose all your fucking coof like you just said, oh,
Speaker 4: just fuck it. I mean with all the cameras and
Speaker 4: surveillant chats and technology that you're going to get away
Speaker 4: with any of this ship.
Speaker 3: Well, self controls at an all time low.
Speaker 4: At all time in society at large, self controls are
Speaker 4: all time low, and lust is probably on the top
Speaker 4: of the list of things that.
Speaker 3: People had less zero control over.
Speaker 4: They just they just their whole life radiates on do
Speaker 4: our busting up today or not?
Speaker 3: And that's a crazy way to live your life, right, Because.
Speaker 1: I just also think that there haven't been enough healthy conversations,
Speaker 1: not only around consent, but men are pushed to explore,
Speaker 1: not even exploring, just having sex, and women are pushed
Speaker 1: to protecting it and feeling shamed by it. And so
Speaker 1: I think when you have the upbringing of those two
Speaker 1: contrasting ways of viewing sex, as we get older, there's
Speaker 1: confusion and how to receive it, how to give it,
Speaker 1: what's old to you, what's not old to you, how
Speaker 1: you show up in the bedroom, how to communicate when
Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable, and so this is where we have now
Speaker 1: we have adults navigating off of not knowing what the
Speaker 1: fuck they're doing or feeling entitled to certain things. And
Speaker 1: then unfortunately, when you're a man with money access power,
Speaker 1: like we're seeing with these celebrities, you also don't really
Speaker 1: get criminalized.
Speaker 3: Do we blame rap music for this?
Speaker 2: I did not say that.
Speaker 3: I'm asking no, Like what inspires the behavior?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 3: It's fucking bitch hole.
Speaker 1: But it's patriarchy because they say the same ship in
Speaker 1: rock music and ship like that, like I did it
Speaker 1: all for the nookie, Come on the nookie, come on
Speaker 1: so you.
Speaker 3: Could take that.
Speaker 1: Eat ch ass Is that a song?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: You're a line somebody the red jalapenos.
Speaker 1: Anyway, red chili peppers, that's it? Does not yell all
Speaker 1: eat your asshole.
Speaker 4: The AI version red hot hallopeno sounds like a euphemism
Speaker 4: for asshole.
Speaker 3: That's what I was like, what are we doing? It's
Speaker 3: the AI versions the AI version right now?
Speaker 4: But no, I'm just trying to think what contributes to
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously ship starts.
Speaker 3: At the home, but I think a lot of the behaviors.
Speaker 1: Learnedous, you know, the ignorance that and why I hate
Speaker 1: that line of questioning is because it it makes it
Speaker 1: appear as these crimes, these assaults are only happening within
Speaker 1: our community and aren't a problem at large. And for me,
Speaker 1: we know, like these crackers out here doing some goofy
Speaker 1: weird shit too.
Speaker 2: I mean shit, look at Brothlisberger that he had all
Speaker 2: the charges against him and nothing really happened.
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I want to focused on our community
Speaker 4: because we got to take care of us, right, what
Speaker 4: how do we remedy this is because our women.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all women.
Speaker 4: Are not being impacted by this, but people that we
Speaker 4: we shouldn't know women that got assaulted at all.
Speaker 3: This shouldn't happen. We know way too many. But to me,
Speaker 3: it because.
Speaker 4: Comes down to like your personal responsibility accountability, Like I'm
Speaker 4: not going to outsource blame for this to anywhere other
Speaker 4: than the people who do it, and they're rationale for
Speaker 4: doing it. To me, doesn't really matter, it's all it's
Speaker 4: all degenerously. So it's like but with power, with power
Speaker 4: and money, yeah, and being able to take advantage of
Speaker 4: these situations or just not even if then I even
Speaker 4: if it's not a money and power thing like sexual assault,
Speaker 4: touching a woman, grabbing a woman, doing whatever you want
Speaker 4: to do, I think that you're enable to do. Like,
Speaker 4: that's a problem with you, rapist, that's the problem with you.
Speaker 4: Pussy grab her, that's a problem with you.
Speaker 3: Like a dude that be filming women is like, what's
Speaker 3: wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Hear me out.
Speaker 1: This becomes a bit tricky because when we talk about
Speaker 1: holding our community accountable for things that we deem to
Speaker 1: be quote unquote wrong, right, we also have a Patrick
Speaker 1: Beverly who his fifteen year old sister was in the
Speaker 1: home or in a bed alone with her eighteen year
Speaker 1: old boyfriend. Now, clearly we have conversations to about age
Speaker 1: gaps and things that are appropriate and not appropriate, and
Speaker 1: we talk about women at the age of fifteen not
Speaker 1: really being able old enough to consent to sex, and
Speaker 1: you know it's and so former NBA player Patrick Beverley
Speaker 1: was arrested on charge of assault for family violence and
Speaker 1: household and pending breathing. Basically, he grabbed his sister by
Speaker 1: her neck and picked her up off the ground. Now
Speaker 1: this was him probably instilling some sort of fear into
Speaker 1: her that what you're doing is wrong. And so I
Speaker 1: think that again that leads to the conversation of how
Speaker 1: do we even change in our community? When growing up
Speaker 1: it's belt to ask. Growing up, it's seeking revenge on Oh,
Speaker 1: if you come and fuck up my family, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come and fuck up yours. Even when we get into
Speaker 1: street code, right, the conversation is not letting justice handle it,
Speaker 1: but that we gonna deal with it. We're gonna like
Speaker 1: we're our own vigilantes within our own community. A lot
Speaker 1: of times, and so when it comes to the conversations
Speaker 1: on how how do we go if we literally go
Speaker 1: all the way back to you got a whooping, getting
Speaker 1: a spanking, that's how we're taught to even administer any
Speaker 1: sort of consequence.
Speaker 3: They don't do about to ask no more.
Speaker 1: They absolutely do about to ask, Oh, there's a there's
Speaker 1: a choke, there's a punch, he whooped, his sister asked.
Speaker 1: But but again, if you are the older brother, let's
Speaker 1: be very clear, A lot of times there's this fatherly
Speaker 1: like expectation of how you yeah, and you might feel
Speaker 1: like we siblings and we fight, and how many times
Speaker 1: have we as siblings fought so then it's also like
Speaker 1: are we in that era where now siblings can't fight?
Speaker 3: La?
Speaker 4: But I think there's a fine line between YO, get
Speaker 4: somebody up and trying to you know, mediator situation when
Speaker 4: you see your little sister and an older boy the punching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's another thing. The mom called Patrick to
Speaker 2: come over and handle the situation right.
Speaker 4: But when you do that, the intention behind that was
Speaker 4: probably from a you know, I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I need I need a male.
Speaker 2: I need a man. But that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't know what he saw to make him
Speaker 4: do all of that. I can't put myself in the
Speaker 4: shoe because I wouldn't. I wouldn't put no hands on
Speaker 4: my sister like like it'll be some form of I'm here,
Speaker 4: we're gonna stop whatever's going on, and we're gonna find
Speaker 4: a solution.
Speaker 3: But not to that level.
Speaker 1: But here's my question growing up right if unfortunately, and
Speaker 1: this is another thing that probably is not instilled right
Speaker 1: within our community, the mom lets.
Speaker 2: The like a father.
Speaker 1: When there is a father figure on the home, we're
Speaker 1: taught to fear the dad. Wait till your daddy wait
Speaker 1: to your daddy get home. Oh, your daddy gonna handle you,
Speaker 1: or you don't want to make your dad upset. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times, unfortunately, even in the upbringing, and
Speaker 1: that's when there's a father figure in the home, the
Speaker 1: father is the one who instills the punishment or puts belt,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 1: But so when we're talking about these conversations on how
Speaker 1: we can really change that within our community, it has
Speaker 1: to be that there can't be fear instilled by men
Speaker 1: even from a very young age when and again that's
Speaker 1: when a father figure is in the home. Outside of that,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about older men, even in how they
Speaker 1: instill sexual deviance in little boys, it can't be to
Speaker 1: teach these boys to go out and chase tail at
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve years old, and for a girl to
Speaker 1: be shamed about her sexual you know, desires or things
Speaker 1: like that, Like we are taught to be shamed for arousal,
Speaker 1: for wanting sex, for having sex. Oh, if you are
Speaker 1: a girl that ends up fast sucking any type of
Speaker 1: dick through school, you are a Jezebel and you're scorning.
Speaker 2: You have the scarlet letter on you forever. The boys y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all are high fiving each other for having sexual experience.
Speaker 4: Those dynamics are in play here. So here's what I say. First,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't call whether there's clearly two
Speaker 4: different stories, right, Like Patrick Beverly is telling his side
Speaker 4: of the story. He said, he's saying he didn't do
Speaker 4: any of the things his sister is accusing him of.
Speaker 4: The sister is saying, this is what happened to me, right,
Speaker 4: I don't have none of us have all the facts
Speaker 4: about exactly what happened in that house. The court will
Speaker 4: have to figure that out. I don't know how they
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Now, But did you what are your thoughts on the video?
Speaker 3: So that's what I was going to get to. My
Speaker 3: problem really is.
Speaker 2: Can I play a clip from it just in case?
Speaker 3: Because there's a couple of things we need to talk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that you're bringing up the video and his
Speaker 1: explaining himself, because I will say to a lot of times,
Speaker 1: we don't get to hear both sides of the story,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, no one really wants to ever hear the
Speaker 1: man side of the story either.
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother it is. So here is.
Speaker 3: The call around three o'clock in the morning, and Andrew
Speaker 3: have a five o'clock in the morning flight to LA.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna workout for some teams and I get interrupted
Speaker 4: with a call at three o'clock for mom, like, I
Speaker 4: need you to come over here fast.
Speaker 3: Like, now, what's going on? What happened into the house?
Speaker 2: Little Mom's from your mom?
Speaker 3: Like my pool sister next from When I say Pool,
Speaker 3: I mean arm com here, right, I'm like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? Like, what are you doing? As a thirty
Speaker 3: seven year old brother and the fifteen year old sister.
Speaker 4: It's not little sisters, it's it's a.
Speaker 3: Little daughter vibe. So the young man, you know, and
Speaker 3: he was cool, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now by the way, y'all, it is shot like
Speaker 2: a Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a scene where he's in the car and they
Speaker 4: paying it on the side. Yeah, it's basically a documentary
Speaker 4: explanation of his situation. But yeah, your thoughts now, so
Speaker 4: so I started off to say it. Yeah, the facts,
Speaker 4: I guess are being disputed, and I don't have any
Speaker 4: insight on what the facts are as far as what
Speaker 4: happened between Patrick Beverley and his sister. But the there's
Speaker 4: layers of problems with the whole situation right to what
Speaker 4: you're saying about the father is supposed to you know,
Speaker 4: I guess instill this fear in the situation, right. I
Speaker 4: don't know why the mother felt like she had to
Speaker 4: put Patrick.
Speaker 3: Beverley even in this.
Speaker 4: If you live in the house with your daughter, your
Speaker 4: daughter is active. This is a recurrent theme. It is
Speaker 4: that we heard this public could because of the extremity
Speaker 4: of what happened there this It sounds like they've been
Speaker 4: dealing with this element.
Speaker 1: Seven years old with a fifteen year old sister. It's
Speaker 1: not a sibling relationship.
Speaker 4: It's a daughter, yes, clearly it was.
Speaker 2: And the mom, he says it, she there were three
Speaker 2: am in the morning.
Speaker 3: Right like, you're you're the money because you're not.
Speaker 1: Even not even you're the one with the money. But
Speaker 1: she feels the figure. But that's the thing too.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's because he's got the money if he
Speaker 4: was just the breadwinner, so you listen to.
Speaker 2: The bread we're bringing money into this.
Speaker 1: But also if this woman currently does not have a
Speaker 1: even boyfriend or man, say that the father of this
Speaker 1: fifteen year old is not in the house. Unfortunately, what
Speaker 1: we see too, is these weird dynamics that happen.
Speaker 2: With moms and their son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my son is my king.
Speaker 2: My son is my king. My son is and so
Speaker 2: the baby daddy not here.
Speaker 1: You not a daddy, which is why he said, I
Speaker 1: didn't even I don't even have this brother sister relationship
Speaker 1: with my sister.
Speaker 2: I have a daughter dad relationships.
Speaker 4: So the reason why the mother called him is because, yes,
Speaker 4: the red wind A part is a big factor, because
Speaker 4: everything that they are able to do is because he
Speaker 4: had on his success. So with dad saying, she's saying, well,
Speaker 4: this is your house, were in it. You ain't gonna
Speaker 4: disrespect the pipeline of the house, right, So you know what,
Speaker 4: I argue that we come over here.
Speaker 3: The mother's probably thinking that's the only way to whatever.
Speaker 2: That is back to what we have to start doing
Speaker 2: as a mother. Talk to your daughter who's fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Old and navigate why this might not be the dynamic
Speaker 1: you want to have. Mind you, there's so many conversations
Speaker 1: that I also realized I didn't have with my mom
Speaker 1: about age gaps and these older men not really knowing
Speaker 1: how to treat you. But also at fifteen, how you're
Speaker 1: making these adult decisions that you really shouldn't be making.
Speaker 1: But that's a conversation that I think more mothers need
Speaker 1: to have with their daughters instead of now bringing the
Speaker 1: black male figure to come and steal that fear and
Speaker 1: to put bell to ass and to like, we got
Speaker 1: to also stop making our black men these fear mongering
Speaker 1: examples within the family unit.
Speaker 2: That is a huge part of the problem.
Speaker 4: There too, right, And so that's the first thing, is like,
Speaker 4: why does Pat need to be involved in this? Clearly
Speaker 4: like that's a family dynamic they've probably been dealing with
Speaker 4: for a while.
Speaker 3: So that's one part of it.
Speaker 4: The second part of it is with even with what
Speaker 4: Patrick Beverly like the way it played out, right, you
Speaker 4: are coming over there because there's an issue with your
Speaker 4: sister and the sister is sneaking out going to see
Speaker 4: the boyfriend. Pat in one of the clips, talks about
Speaker 4: how much he's like, yo, I know you're fifteen, you love,
Speaker 4: you're in love. I see your I respect your love,
Speaker 4: I respect the fact that you love this boy, whatever
Speaker 4: the case is.
Speaker 3: But if when when you're.
Speaker 4: Coming over there, and if the problem is this boy
Speaker 4: is and how your sister snuck out to be with
Speaker 4: this boy, and she's fifteen and he's eighteen. Why are
Speaker 4: you hemming up the sister? Because he said in the
Speaker 4: clip the boy called the police.
Speaker 2: Why, I mean, but why are you hemming up a
Speaker 2: woman at all?
Speaker 4: Like, if anything, you would think the normal reaction would
Speaker 4: be one of these niggas is doing something to my sister.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go fuck that nigga up.
Speaker 1: You can't do that either, No, no, but that was respectful.
Speaker 1: Well and he said that, he said, I wasn't But.
Speaker 3: That's the problem.
Speaker 4: But isn't that part the problem If he's an eighteen
Speaker 4: year old boy with your fifteen year old sister, Yeah,
Speaker 4: your sister. You can say the sister is doing whatever
Speaker 4: she but like you can come out. There's no you
Speaker 4: addressed you, but you addressed that boy. He said in
Speaker 4: the video. I didn't want to mess up his life,
Speaker 4: so I made sure there was no charges filed and
Speaker 4: all this. I didn't want to mess up the boy's life. Well,
Speaker 4: why are you protected him? Could it be more?
Speaker 3: What? Could it be more to the story that we
Speaker 3: don't know?
Speaker 4: Of course, the problem is I mean they again, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna know all what happened inside.
Speaker 1: I mean but the bigger, the bigger scope of the
Speaker 1: thing is like, I actually don't feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like unfortunately this only happened because of the trickle down effect,
Speaker 1: which is why when you said, what can we change different?
Speaker 1: That's what we have to change different. I do want
Speaker 1: to make sure we go on because we still have
Speaker 1: two topics to get to you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah again.
Speaker 1: I that's that's the final take on this one though,
Speaker 1: Like within the black community, we got to make changes
Speaker 1: about how the man we need up bringing and communicating
Speaker 1: with each other. Overall, Let's do jay Z and then
Speaker 1: will end with Coke Gate.
Speaker 3: Coke this nigga d the white Howard oh y. So this uh.
Speaker 3: A lot of you know a lot.
Speaker 4: Of stuff came out in the Epstein files, some of
Speaker 4: which is like accusations, things that are just not really important,
Speaker 4: things that are outing people for their you know, sexual crimes.
Speaker 4: But one of the things that was inside of these files,
Speaker 4: I know this guy Just Staley is related to Harvey Weinstein,
Speaker 4: I mean, Jeffrey Epstein. They were friends. Just Staley was
Speaker 4: the former CEO of the Barclays. He used to do
Speaker 4: investment banking and those type of things, And one of
Speaker 4: the things that was in the Epstein files was this
Speaker 4: email that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein that reads, you
Speaker 4: want to know why we're not South Polo. And it
Speaker 4: just to be clear, he's I think he's referencing South
Speaker 4: Polo from the standpoint of them being a revolutionary and
Speaker 4: them reacting and overthrowing the government and revolting, pro testing
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So, by the way, you're reading an email from just
Speaker 2: Stally to.
Speaker 4: Jeff he said, watch the watch the TV ads on
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. It's all about hip blacks and hip
Speaker 4: cars with white women. The group that should be in
Speaker 4: the streets has been bought off period by jay Z.
Speaker 3: That's from just Stally. I need to point out a
Speaker 3: couple of things.
Speaker 4: This email was sent on February third, twenty fourteen, two
Speaker 4: years prior to.
Speaker 3: This net is when yeah, right, the Next came to Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: You know, jay Z was a big part of bringing
Speaker 4: into Brooklyn, getting against public acceptance of this move. People
Speaker 4: were very critical at the time that this was going
Speaker 4: to disenfranchise a lot of people, a lot of people
Speaker 4: who had lived in Brooklyn for a long time.
Speaker 1: Maybe I opened the Applebee's across from Barclays, did you yep?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a part of that, right, so that the
Speaker 4: whole area is gentrified now.
Speaker 3: But the thing also that happened in twenty twelve is
Speaker 3: that Trayvon Martin was killed.
Speaker 4: And when Trayvon Martin was killed, it was a It
Speaker 4: wasn't a local store, it was a national store. People
Speaker 4: were angry, people were outside in the streets. So I
Speaker 4: want to be clear that even him saying this is
Speaker 4: historically inaccurate the idea that black people have been glamored
Speaker 4: and bought off by jay Z and they're so black
Speaker 4: people are so stuck on celebrity and fame and money
Speaker 4: that we can't possibly concentrate on the things that are
Speaker 4: going on around us. No, because niggas got in the
Speaker 4: street in twenty twelve when Trayvon Martin was killed. Also
Speaker 4: in this same year that this email was sent, Michael
Speaker 4: Brown was killed and people were back in the streets
Speaker 4: because Michael Brown got killed.
Speaker 3: We watched it on video and we said, this is
Speaker 3: fucked up. So this is a white.
Speaker 4: Man talking about some foolishness that he doesn't even know
Speaker 4: what he's talking.
Speaker 3: Nothing he's saying here is even remotely accurate now per usual.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 4: The separate issue from that is, and I had this
Speaker 4: conversation with a friend like a month ago, which is
Speaker 4: interesting that this came out now, is that jay Z
Speaker 4: is just in transparence. Jay Z is my favorite rapper ever.
Speaker 4: I think what jay Z has done for music and
Speaker 4: hip hop culture and all of that kind of shit
Speaker 4: is amazing. But people have had a lot of criticism
Speaker 4: for jay Z for years now for the way he
Speaker 4: operates in capitalism.
Speaker 3: And I think the culture at.
Speaker 4: Large that our relationship with capitalism has evolved over the
Speaker 4: time as we see more things deteriorate because people are greedy,
Speaker 4: because corporations want money, and they're willing to choose money
Speaker 4: over literally anything else, human lives or anything else. So
Speaker 4: the conversation around, I don't believe that jay Z is
Speaker 4: a distraction to the black community.
Speaker 3: I don't even believe when people say that.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a cop out to just find
Speaker 4: some boogeyman to blame some things on. But are there
Speaker 4: things that jay Z could address and issues that people
Speaker 4: have with some of the things that he's done business wise? Sure,
Speaker 4: I think that's fair, But as far as being a puppet.
Speaker 4: That's where it gets a little bit weird, because are
Speaker 4: you mad at it?
Speaker 2: Are you forward or against?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What what is your sense on this specifically?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I don't think he's a puppet.
Speaker 4: I think that jay Z is a capitalist and I
Speaker 4: think that he operates in that system unabashedly.
Speaker 3: The question is that if jay Z operating in.
Speaker 4: Capitalism, is he being used or because he sells The
Speaker 4: story he sells to us is that I'm going to
Speaker 4: go into these business places and take advantage of these
Speaker 4: crackers who want to take advantage of me.
Speaker 3: And he has to some degree he has.
Speaker 2: It's not going to need to every degree.
Speaker 1: But we've seen him operate successfully in a liquor business
Speaker 1: and buy and sell it like he's owned it and
Speaker 1: sold it.
Speaker 2: We've seen the changes he's made for the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: in the league that didn't even want their players to kneel,
Speaker 2: We've seen him.
Speaker 4: I mean, but the question is are those things just
Speaker 4: because those things have happened, does that also mean that
Speaker 4: they couldn't.
Speaker 3: Still be using him to do things that aren't in
Speaker 3: our face that we're not accounting.
Speaker 1: Rights me off like they never gonna be happy.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I don't like to and and
Speaker 4: we could expand on this later on, because I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure it probably right now, the whole whole, But even
Speaker 4: in this conversation about you know, and I hate seeing
Speaker 4: it because it's getting quite annoying now. And it's some
Speaker 4: folks out here that's always commenting on Charlemagne's business dealing
Speaker 4: and always this and that, and always got some negatives
Speaker 4: say about it. Look, business deals are done in the
Speaker 4: favor of the person doing business.
Speaker 3: How you critique it as it relates to you don't matter.
Speaker 4: You negotiate your whatever it is, you want, your agenda,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. That only whether you would do it,
Speaker 4: and what looks like if you that don't matter that
Speaker 4: you don't the position, the position you're in to do
Speaker 4: that when it's time you have your gender. But why
Speaker 4: is it always a conversation about, oh, oh, he must
Speaker 4: have did something, got in the booty hole to get
Speaker 4: the two hundred men?
Speaker 3: Why I want.
Speaker 1: To just there's a there's a sentence from the caption
Speaker 1: of all of all of these things that were pulled.
Speaker 1: It's imperative to understand how black celebrities are weaponized against
Speaker 1: us due to its deceptive nature but effective impact. The
Speaker 1: ruling class means us harm and will outsource that mission
Speaker 1: to anyone willing to sell themselves out for the right price.
Speaker 1: Is the jig finally up? For Jigaman?
Speaker 2: And my problem is we love and.
Speaker 1: Celebrate the fact that we are able to go to university,
Speaker 1: obtain degrees, climb the corporate ladder, have c suite positions.
Speaker 1: Why do we get to a point where when someone
Speaker 1: finally makes it into certain rooms and someone finally makes
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money, now we gotta view them
Speaker 1: as a sellout?
Speaker 2: Is there not?
Speaker 3: Is it coco bread every day? Like Nick?
Speaker 1: It's literally like our ancestors wildest dreams to be able
Speaker 1: to sit in some of these rooms. So the idea
Speaker 1: that now they're sellouts or not doing enough for like,
Speaker 1: I just hate that this is a constant conversation around
Speaker 1: around black people who read a certain level of success
Speaker 1: or get into certain rooms with white people that yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe ate for us, but there are conversations changing the narrative,
Speaker 1: Like we literally could go and look at all the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls from the eighties and nineties and see the
Speaker 1: exact change of what's been happening in the celebrities that
Speaker 1: are now performing now. But it's like, you're damned if
Speaker 1: you do, damned if you don't.
Speaker 3: But I think there's room for both things.
Speaker 4: I don't think that someone achieving a thing for being
Speaker 4: in a room or having a certain success means.
Speaker 3: That there was how did you get? Like? Was there
Speaker 3: harm done along the way to get to that point?
Speaker 2: I hate that conversation too.
Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter though, because if that's what happened,
Speaker 4: that's what happened.
Speaker 3: The people whose.
Speaker 4: Houses in Brooklyn, who wanted to stay there, who didn't
Speaker 4: give a fuck about no Barclay Center, They wanted to
Speaker 4: keep their homes, they wanted to stay there where they've
Speaker 4: been for whatever amount of years. Now, plot twists that
Speaker 4: shit was gonna happen. Whether jay Z has, whether he
Speaker 4: had whether.
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's one thing. But did jay Z have
Speaker 3: to participate in it?
Speaker 2: Bro he owned zero.
Speaker 1: Of the net They want to talk about like butor no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it worse. That allowed him to be
Speaker 1: a part of the NBA, which later then he also
Speaker 1: sold that stake so that he could start Sports Rock
Speaker 1: Nation Sports. But also that's having that partnership or that
Speaker 1: relationship or that bit of ownership probably led him to
Speaker 1: be able to We saw him sit with Bloomberg in
Speaker 1: the Russian when he sold it, but that's probably what
Speaker 1: led to him later being able.
Speaker 2: To make the changes that he's making the NFL.
Speaker 1: To me, again, I agree, if it was gonna happen
Speaker 1: whether I'm here or not, why not find a way
Speaker 1: to where I can get into the room and make
Speaker 1: a difference.
Speaker 4: Or maybe I mean we gotuse guess what Those rooms
Speaker 4: are controlled by them people. We don't have zero ownership
Speaker 4: or anything to be in our own rooms. But I
Speaker 4: don't think it's a I don't think it's necessarily a
Speaker 4: problem wanted to be in the room, but it's the
Speaker 4: idea that you can't have. Just because there he's doing
Speaker 4: a benefit thing doesn't mean that he can't be critiqued
Speaker 4: for things that went along along the way. Bill Cosby
Speaker 4: put a lot of people in school. He played a
Speaker 4: lot of people's tuition too. Does that mean that Bill
Speaker 4: Cosby can't re critique for the ship that he's.
Speaker 3: Doing behind the scenes that he's been accused of.
Speaker 1: But I think that even with this, but even this
Speaker 1: it's all imaginary of what jay Z is doing wrong
Speaker 1: or what he knew, or.
Speaker 4: For the people who did not everybody was with the
Speaker 4: Barclay Center. Some people did not want in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Some people.
Speaker 4: Before that was short. Well, the Illuminati is all bullshit.
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about illuminati. I'm not talking about like, oh,
Speaker 4: you did some ritual to become rich, that's not what
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: You know what else? Right now, look a lot like
Speaker 1: Barclay over there the same Go look at Marcy and
Speaker 1: what they're doing over there in Brooklyn, and they're gentrifying
Speaker 1: New York. Look So to even place any bit of
Speaker 1: blame or critique on Jay Z for being a part
Speaker 1: of what is literally happening to by.
Speaker 2: The way, talking about New York the beltline, what the.
Speaker 1: Of what's happening here in one of the blackest cities
Speaker 1: in America. It's doing nothing but pushing pushing our community.
Speaker 2: Out further into the outskirts.
Speaker 1: Like they're now being pushed to some out and they're
Speaker 1: now being pushed to build. They're now being pushed to
Speaker 1: Gweney County. What what the old fourth Ward and the
Speaker 1: West End and even Nowtown look like.
Speaker 4: Now they're doing four it looks like Silicon Valley, and
Speaker 4: you know, and you know who's participating in that extra
Speaker 4: to make sure that that thing happens. The black mayors
Speaker 4: that have been running this city. Yeah, I mean I'm
Speaker 4: not The black mayors who've been running this city for
Speaker 4: fifty sixty years have all played a part in that
Speaker 4: expansive growth. Yeah we get the FIFA, we get the
Speaker 4: World Cup, Yeah, we get the Super Bowl. Yeah, we
Speaker 4: get these big events, we get this business that's good
Speaker 4: for the city. I'm not saying that there aren't benefits
Speaker 4: to that, but to act as if those people who
Speaker 4: are being pushed out don't give a fuck about the
Speaker 4: World Cup, they give a fuck about the house that
Speaker 4: they lost because of the imminent domain.
Speaker 1: Okay, but to me, it's one of those where, again,
Speaker 1: with all the things going on in this world, one
Speaker 1: of the things that I'd be like, you damn if
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 2: Damned you don't. I don't feel like this is something
Speaker 2: to spend energy.
Speaker 4: Is it changed clothes or is it dead presidents? But
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. He needs one of those too,
Speaker 4: Like what j Z change change clothes?
Speaker 2: Change Look, he told you that.
Speaker 4: Listen, guys, to be in these rooms, you gotta take
Speaker 4: off your your NFL jerseys, your baseball football jerseys and
Speaker 4: put on some and put on some tie to play
Speaker 4: the part code twitch or well I was gonna I
Speaker 4: would say less their president is more where I'm from.
Speaker 3: M like like, like, are you are you from Brooklyn? Right?
Speaker 3: You're from the streets of Brooklyn? Right? You grew up
Speaker 3: in the hood.
Speaker 4: Right, you grew up around the people who the people
Speaker 4: who are your neighbors, the people who you kicked it with,
Speaker 4: the people who.
Speaker 3: Are around you your community.
Speaker 4: Those are the people who moved out of the area
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn because of Barclay Center.
Speaker 3: King are you are you? Are you? Are you of that?
Speaker 3: Or are you of uh uh? Twitter? CEOs and Michael Rubins?
Speaker 4: What what are what are you of?
Speaker 3: Question? You see, that's a great That's a question. That's
Speaker 3: a great question. I think that we got to ask question.
Speaker 4: I would record, I would ask, I would ask, I
Speaker 4: would ask ourselves that question because I'm from the projects.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I want to see I want to be
Speaker 4: I want to get some money with these guys, because
Speaker 4: got the money.
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to compromise. I'm gonna bring I'm
Speaker 3: gonna bring my ship to it.
Speaker 4: But you with me that you fuck with me, But
Speaker 4: we don't have to oppress anybody. But that's the That
Speaker 4: is the fake dream that they're talking about right here,
Speaker 4: That right there is the fake dream. Because the question is,
Speaker 4: if you're operating under capitalism, is there any scenario under
Speaker 4: capitalism where someone is not harm compassionate whole point?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that bullshit or not?
Speaker 4: Because I think that's bulls compassion Yeah, I think that's so.
Speaker 3: Do we have to know?
Speaker 1: Want to make money, We want to be on pay.
Speaker 2: I want to be as rich as possible. List how
Speaker 2: did you get there? You probably harmed someone a long way.
Speaker 2: Suck my dick. I'm living like this. It is hard.
Speaker 2: I don't know all the right way to do everything.
Speaker 3: Take what you get then, I mean tatigue.
Speaker 4: I think in our scenario, the question would be how
Speaker 4: how you can't have it both ways? How much is
Speaker 4: designed to harm people? That's super clear how capitalism is
Speaker 4: designed to you? Watching capitalism is designed to harm you.
Speaker 4: We all have to operate under it. We don't have
Speaker 4: no choice. We live here in America. That's what the system.
Speaker 2: Twitched my camera.
Speaker 3: But it is designed But the harmed people.
Speaker 4: The question point in our scenario is how many hard
Speaker 4: over usage of chat.
Speaker 3: Poison water for information? Is it worth it? I mean,
Speaker 3: is it worth so we're complicit, could be using that's
Speaker 3: don't let me know it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, but.
Speaker 4: No, listen, listen uh me? He shot the big Homi
Speaker 4: Johnathan Mana. He texted me and say, Yo, chatty b T,
Speaker 4: don't a. I don't like you king, And I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't like that last one. I think you're looking
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: I got last topic. Last topic.
Speaker 4: We are well, but they make me look good though.
Speaker 4: Of course I think she got a little light in her.
Speaker 4: She got at you know, the prompts is like probably
Speaker 4: like you know, I think chatchy BT is on the spectrum.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm about to get both of you all the little
Speaker 1: taste of collars and they put them.
Speaker 4: That's why I put on that both time both ip
Speaker 4: probably got AI and it shocked me and choke me
Speaker 4: while I'm talking about jay Z.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, last topic, Let's see if you care.
Speaker 4: I do have a clip to play text message hold.
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard and Amy Lucia Happened has literally been on.
Speaker 2: The internet all week.
Speaker 1: Amy got in the car, claiming that Dwight Howard's behavior
Speaker 1: led to CPS coming to pick up her step child.
Speaker 1: Of course, Roy read you had something to say Dwight
Speaker 1: about Dwight Howard came into it. Their shared son also
Speaker 1: came on the internet. Amy sat in a in a
Speaker 1: car crying with a back of coke, saying that this
Speaker 1: is the reason, while also rubbing her face taking the coke.
Speaker 1: It was just a lot going on right now. There's
Speaker 1: a few topics of this. I guess I'll ask y'all's thoughts.
Speaker 1: Did y'all care about this? Are y'all like here for
Speaker 1: family disputes being on the internet.
Speaker 3: I don't care, per se.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, if Dwhite Howard is doing what he's
Speaker 4: being accused of doing, then I want that woman to
Speaker 4: get someone.
Speaker 2: What is he being accused of doing? Taking coke?
Speaker 4: Well, she's saying that he is like locking her out
Speaker 4: of the home. They're marriage that she's locked him out
Speaker 4: of the house numerous signs. She had to break in
Speaker 4: the back gate, and she had to walk through the
Speaker 4: floorst to break in the back gate because when he
Speaker 4: gets mad at her, he changes the cold and she
Speaker 4: can't get to the security. Yeah, if you're a billionaire
Speaker 4: or you're a brokie bro the behavior, it's the same ship.
Speaker 3: Niggas will still default to the same.
Speaker 1: Leap in my car when my husband gets mad because
Speaker 1: he's a multi millionaire and he's an NBA star. By
Speaker 1: the way, the no one one calls lead to she
Speaker 1: was like, I'm with Lakers star.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was like, girl, you've fending out over your nigga, Like,
Speaker 1: this is weird. I did, however, want to take a
Speaker 1: different approach to this conversation. Clearly, the bag of coke
Speaker 1: was crazy. Clearly them divorcing, I don't care.
Speaker 4: She put on some of the coke in her hand,
Speaker 4: talked about it, and then put it back in the
Speaker 4: bag to make sure that it wasn't everybody.
Speaker 3: No one's gonna find out. Look, where's that at right now? Nah,
Speaker 3: you just got a whole key in there.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's listen to this clip. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is a clip from Claudia Jordan. She was on
Speaker 1: a Fox soul show called Side Dish, and I was
Speaker 1: I want to know y'all's thoughts on what she had
Speaker 1: to say about everything happening.
Speaker 6: He should have never been married to a woman first
Speaker 6: of all, while you waste that woman's time.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 6: No, that's not a legend.
Speaker 2: He everybody knows. Okay, it's not a legend. People. There's
Speaker 2: lots of evidence out there about Dwight. How ll y'all
Speaker 2: know what it is. I mean, look, he got the mouth. Okay,
Speaker 2: his mouth. Tell everyone to know about he got off.
Speaker 5: He got a mouth.
Speaker 3: Pretty much.
Speaker 6: Now, people say that Royce is petty and she should
Speaker 6: have waited to know the hell she should not if
Speaker 6: you have known the story about their relationship. And she
Speaker 6: crashed out a few months ago, a year ago, and
Speaker 6: gave up all the tea. She'd been quiet for so
Speaker 6: many years about the things this man has been doing
Speaker 6: to this woman behind her back, allegedly Okay that that
Speaker 6: Royce put laid out all the receipts, Okay, stopping her
Speaker 6: from getting employment.
Speaker 2: Just keep on filing.
Speaker 6: Motion at the motion, at the motion until she's bankrupt,
Speaker 6: getting her off basketball wives like just putting a gag
Speaker 6: on her, on her. He has been interfering this woman's
Speaker 6: life for a long time.
Speaker 2: So imagine you've been trying to.
Speaker 6: Tell the world like your story, you get shut up,
Speaker 6: shut down, and Amy luci Anam comes into the playout
Speaker 6: and then marries this guy and gets with them and
Speaker 6: then globes and is laughing at Royce like it was you.
Speaker 2: You're jealous of my position.
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody jealous of anybody that's with Dwight Howard except
Speaker 6: maybe some dudes.
Speaker 2: Okay, No one is jealous about that.
Speaker 6: Nobody is jealous.
Speaker 2: Maybe miss Kitty is jealous.
Speaker 6: And if you don't know whom's kitty is, look up
Speaker 6: miss Kitty.
Speaker 2: M for me. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say this first and foremost,
Speaker 1: it is very tasteless for me and for anyone to
Speaker 1: speak about whether or not a man should be married
Speaker 1: to a woman based on their sexual preference or things
Speaker 1: that took place in their past.
Speaker 2: So she went in and on about Royce.
Speaker 1: Maybe her and Royce have a friendship, But for me,
Speaker 1: there's a huge problem to me with leading with the
Speaker 1: fact that Dwight should not have been married to a
Speaker 1: woman because of the thing that we are privy or
Speaker 1: whatever the.
Speaker 2: Case with him and men.
Speaker 1: We have to if we want to move forward with
Speaker 1: these conversations and have more healthy relationships and have less
Speaker 1: dl men and get to a place where we can
Speaker 1: have conversations around consent and kinks and desires and make
Speaker 1: this healthy.
Speaker 2: For everyone sex.
Speaker 1: You can't say here and tell a man who may
Speaker 1: or may not be bisexual, because we all also know
Speaker 1: that people don't want to have labels attached to them
Speaker 1: that they don't have as their own. Tell them that
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be married to who they want to be married.
Speaker 4: To, especially because they didn't have shit to do with
Speaker 4: the topic, nothing to do with a reason to shit
Speaker 4: on that man and talk some LGBT, some anti LGBTs.
Speaker 1: Some anti male bisexual hate, and ignorance. To me, it's
Speaker 1: one of the most ignorant takes. Again in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, men are not able.
Speaker 2: To be to be an LGBTQIA and I don't.
Speaker 1: Understand why we know that gay is gay, lesbian is lesbian,
Speaker 1: but by can identify both genders, and I still do
Speaker 1: not understand by in twenty twenty six, men, specifically black
Speaker 1: men cannot hold the bisexual title if in fact they
Speaker 1: like men and women, let them.
Speaker 2: I also know so.
Speaker 1: Many men that like trans women and identify as straight.
Speaker 1: So when we get into these labels of straight or
Speaker 1: gay or hetero or homo and all these things. There's
Speaker 1: still shame in identifying with labels because people don't want
Speaker 1: to be labeled. They don't want to be put in boxes,
Speaker 1: they don't want to be put in categories. They don't
Speaker 1: want to be put into these things because they just
Speaker 1: want to be themselves, and maybe they are dealing with
Speaker 1: be questioning or shame around them. Let's be very clear,
Speaker 1: Dwight came into this league as a Christian boy, whit
Speaker 1: comes from the Christian roots, went to a Christian high school.
Speaker 1: So whatever his sexuality is right now, there's probably a
Speaker 1: lot of shame, a lot of questioning, a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He's probably and unlearning himself, so to see here and
Speaker 1: this be a thing.
Speaker 2: Also, baby, I'm gonna say it, y'all.
Speaker 1: Gotta stop acting like women don't know what some of
Speaker 1: the men is into. The problem is a lot of
Speaker 1: these women won't admit that they know that their men
Speaker 1: like to be pegged or that their men like to
Speaker 1: sec dick. On the side of this, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of women that actually allow it but don't admit that.
Speaker 1: I notice what my man is into, but I love him. Also,
Speaker 1: Amy Luciana, Luciana whatever married Dwight.
Speaker 2: After all the gay allegations.
Speaker 1: You not gonna tell me this girl didn't know nothing
Speaker 1: about Dwight or what Dwight may have wanted in or
Speaker 1: around his mouth or boot all.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: My thing is Amy is not someone who is completely
Speaker 1: oblivious to what the sexuality of horror of her husband is.
Speaker 1: So even for her to say that, but Royce got
Speaker 1: the receipts.
Speaker 2: Like first saw. Roy's been coming for Dwight since day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think Dwight has because I'm not just talking
Speaker 4: about his sexuality right now. I'm just talking about his
Speaker 4: relationship with Royce and how fucked up it seems.
Speaker 2: It's always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that he for me anyway.
Speaker 4: I don't think he gets the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 4: of how petty or whatever type of shit he might
Speaker 4: be doing to this lady in their private home like that.
Speaker 3: None of that would surprise me.
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, to your point about him sexuality, Like ay,
Speaker 4: it kind of comes back to what we were talking
Speaker 4: about with the Hawks game. Is just that the way
Speaker 4: people view sex is it's fucked their brain up. But
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is outside of the religious
Speaker 4: part of it. I don't know why people have struggle
Speaker 4: with the idea of sex or sexuality, whatever it is,
Speaker 4: because ultimately it doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 1: Mind you, Amy was talking about coke cps came and
Speaker 1: took the children, and yet on this take, we're still
Speaker 1: leaning into whether or not fucking Dwight sucks dick or not.
Speaker 1: Who fucking cares? And why does that keep being a conversation?
Speaker 1: Mind you, Bisexual men, gay men can be good fathers,
Speaker 1: good partners. Let's stop acting like Dwight is now so
Speaker 1: stained and a man that no woman should ever take serious?
Speaker 1: Like is he a liar?
Speaker 3: Probably? Probably? But why do we.
Speaker 1: Keep giving him this scarlet letter like he is the
Speaker 1: most disgusting creature in the world because there's allegations of
Speaker 1: him being with men.
Speaker 2: It's not him, it's like the homophobia of it.
Speaker 3: But it's not him. It's the construct, right, you mentioned
Speaker 3: it earlier.
Speaker 4: It's the societal construct of how they view based on religion. Yeah,
Speaker 4: religion says that ship is a no. And so you
Speaker 4: mentioned that he grew up in a Christian ysehold, where's
Speaker 4: a no. But even within the construct, the tabooism that
Speaker 4: happens behind closed doors. Taoism says, how you say that
Speaker 4: Ireland Irish?
Speaker 2: That's the word.
Speaker 4: Listen, y'all don't want to put y'all y'all want to
Speaker 4: remove the l out of salmon.
Speaker 2: So yeah, tabooism. We're gonna let you go ahead.
Speaker 3: Is there right? No, we're gonna make it. Listen. They
Speaker 3: got the aa V.
Speaker 4: Whatever that ship is, right, but looks tabooism, right. It's
Speaker 4: just like we don't know what his experiences was or
Speaker 4: if any where he encountered these scenarios as a young
Speaker 4: in right, which he developed and liked or whatever, So
Speaker 4: we don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just the construct. We got to stop. The construct
Speaker 3: is the construct?
Speaker 4: The look they're trying to change, change laws and state
Speaker 4: the state that's anti l g B t Q, anti
Speaker 4: interracial marriage, anti whatever they the construct says, that's.
Speaker 1: That's my problem is that we're going to have a
Speaker 1: conversation about this, this divorce as a whole and what
Speaker 1: was unhealthy about it?
Speaker 2: What lets CPS to come and get the child? Still
Speaker 2: don't know that?
Speaker 1: And then this bag of now there's a drug situation here,
Speaker 1: hold on, like the U has.
Speaker 2: CPS taking taking a kid out the home. We have
Speaker 2: a bag of coke.
Speaker 3: That bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you still out walking free because this intend
Speaker 2: to distribute.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of you know what I mean. We
Speaker 3: don't want to keep going back to the plug. He
Speaker 3: just wanted the extra suprise to get it.
Speaker 2: But then the conversation back to his fucking sexuality.
Speaker 3: How many podcasts.
Speaker 2: So you're demonized more for being a black man that
Speaker 2: might like men, more than being a criminal, more than
Speaker 2: using drugs, more than being an abuser, more than being
Speaker 2: a cheater.
Speaker 1: Heaven forbid you like Dick, you are worse than all
Speaker 1: those people in terms of a relationship. And I don't
Speaker 1: understand why we are criminalizing black men for this sexual.
Speaker 3: Love, moral man, evolving him to moral mandy. I love it.
Speaker 2: Now, We'll let a man be a cheater. Look at you.
Speaker 2: You want Anthony.
Speaker 3: Edwards to hold on. I didn't have the information. I
Speaker 3: didn't do other city. I didn't have that information. You
Speaker 3: put me on games. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: There's still a level of yeah, doctor Dre's a billionaire.
Speaker 1: Yay fun that he hit women like even with this,
Speaker 1: there is a child that was moved from a household.
Speaker 2: There is a woman that is a legend. She's being
Speaker 2: locked out.
Speaker 1: That nigga sat front rode with the goddamn Lakers game, smiling,
Speaker 1: waving to everybody, and then filed for divorce the next morning.
Speaker 2: We still don't know why that child was removed basically
Speaker 2: out of the home.
Speaker 1: We know that this relationship is unhealthy because Amy filed
Speaker 1: six months ago for divorce, and yet the conversation of
Speaker 1: the goddamn Internet is dwight sexual.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a collision of two things happening.
Speaker 4: We as a society from the inception of people, we
Speaker 4: have all been running around practicing like unprotected patriarchy, right,
Speaker 4: So like there's that part of it, right, yep. Then
Speaker 4: there is the part of it that is supposed to
Speaker 4: be is like the sex shaming of the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So it's like, well, what's the what's the worst thing
Speaker 4: you can do to a man who's supposed to be
Speaker 4: a big alpha male Like amber Rose did the same
Speaker 4: thing to Kanye when she was mad at him, and
Speaker 4: she's like, oh, well, that's why you like fingers in
Speaker 4: your booty hole, nigga, And it's like all right, like
Speaker 4: you're trying to find you're using patriarchy to say, the
Speaker 4: man is supposed to be this the.
Speaker 3: Nothing feminine, nothing like the strongest big dug.
Speaker 2: Yeah, masculine, and take a finger in the bootle hole.
Speaker 4: You do whatever you want to. Whatever a man and
Speaker 4: a woman do is a whin a man and a
Speaker 4: woman do. Whatever a man and a man does is
Speaker 4: what a man and a man does, and all of
Speaker 4: that shit like that's fine, but you're trying to take
Speaker 4: these two things and use them as weapons against each other.
Speaker 4: And it's like for what or what for what? Just
Speaker 4: to get off points, like what does that have to.
Speaker 3: Do with anything?
Speaker 4: Everything changed October twenty eighteen for Dwight Howard.
Speaker 3: That was the beginning of the NBA season. When he's
Speaker 3: at the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 4: Okay, he was out for the season opener, Okay, And
Speaker 4: when they put on an injury report why he was
Speaker 4: out and you know that's public.
Speaker 3: Everything started there, bro and the report was a tailbone injury.
Speaker 3: It says Dwight, mister star of the NBA season.
Speaker 4: Do the legitimate albeit and usually describe gluteal injury known
Speaker 4: as performance muscle injury, the soreness in the buttocks which
Speaker 4: caused the significance records the significant pain and discomfort. So
Speaker 4: when you put that on the internet, right, what happens
Speaker 4: when you put that on the internet everybody? And that's
Speaker 4: when the start. That is the origin story of how
Speaker 4: we get here. Mind your business. If he liked what
Speaker 4: he likes, hats off, bro, talk about that and we
Speaker 4: shouldn't be we should not he like, we like, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's that is. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: Like I don't, but that's sexuality whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is is separate from are you a good father?
Speaker 2: Being a good father? Are you abusing children? Are you like?
Speaker 2: Come the fuck on.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna have these conversations, I need people to
Speaker 1: be a lot less ignorant and attack the matter and
Speaker 1: not be so homophobic in there in their takes, especially
Speaker 1: especially like Claudia, your friend with with gays. You work
Speaker 1: with Carlos king to me to lean into that is like,
Speaker 1: what do we come on?
Speaker 3: Girl?
Speaker 1: But that's for Dustin, you work with Carlos, Like to me,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be like like criminalizing Dwight for whatever his
Speaker 1: sexuality may be while he's getting a divorce a divorce
Speaker 1: in his heterosexual relationship with a woman.
Speaker 4: If she's triads with Royce, and like that is her
Speaker 4: motivating thing to be anti Dwight because she's friends with
Speaker 4: Royce and she thinks that Dwight did her dirty. If
Speaker 4: you think that that, I'm sticking up for my homegirl.
Speaker 2: Let's not say that you should have been married to
Speaker 2: a woman, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's a petty way to start the conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was This was a lot. I think I'm
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Speaker 2: To see it.
Speaker 1: We got showing up as my barber. We're gonna we're
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Speaker 2: Basically, y'all.
Speaker 3: I have been blocking, can get a mullet. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: You gotta leave me a little bit. I don't want
Speaker 2: to go bald.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that was my question. I was like, when
Speaker 3: you stay shaved, shave, shave.
Speaker 4: And shave, let me see all like like like all
Speaker 4: like down to the skin.
Speaker 2: No, not down to this, not down to the skin. Hey,
Speaker 2: hey yo me word records the waves. All right, guys.
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