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Speaker 1: So I blog, I do all the things, and it's

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Speaker 1: a good time now, y'all. This week on Selective Ignorance

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Speaker 1: with Mandy B and of course my super producers, this

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Speaker 1: is not a sports podcast, but.

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Speaker 2: We are sharing our opinions, y'all.

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Speaker 1: What's the NBA right to Nicks the Magic City promotional

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Speaker 1: night with the Hawks versus the Magic Now that game

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Speaker 1: did take place last night, but we are finally sharing

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Speaker 1: our thoughts of the cancelation of Atlantic culture being presented

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Speaker 1: in an NBA arena and where we see him on it.

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Speaker 2: And you'll be surprised to note.

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Speaker 1: That we all have a different take on this one. Now,

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Speaker 1: what else is everyone so upset about? Apparently records aren't

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Speaker 1: meant to be broken? Bam, Autobio scored eighty three points

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Speaker 1: against the Washington Wizards, and people don't know whether to

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Speaker 1: be mad at him the coach or the defense of

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Speaker 1: the Wizards.

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Speaker 2: But apparently people are upset and bringing up Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 2: in the mix. Too real, real, weird?

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Speaker 1: Really well, what's also weird is how people are now

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Speaker 1: aligning Jay Z.

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Speaker 2: With being a puppet for billionaire Row.

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Speaker 1: He has been mentioned in the Epstein Files and of

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Speaker 1: course in our good old segment This is America.

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Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about. Do we care.

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Speaker 1: If he knows what's going on? Does he know what's

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Speaker 1: going on? Or is he just around as the.

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Speaker 2: Token black guy because you always need one of those.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Then we're getting into Patrick Beverly as well as James

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Speaker 1: Pearce Junior and all of the talk around charges being

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Speaker 1: dropped for athletes. Come on, do we care about women's

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Speaker 1: safety out here in these streets?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 1: Man, Yes, I'm asking that question because it's kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: And then also what's weird is what's happening with Dwight

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Speaker 1: Howard and his now ex wife, Amy Luciana. Dwight Howard

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Speaker 1: filed for divorce this week. Amy Luciana got on the

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Speaker 1: internet with a big old bag of coke and we're

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Speaker 1: discussing some takes around this relationship we have all. Damn,

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Speaker 1: what was I about to say?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: Fuck it? We are here, welcome my super producers minus one.

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Speaker 1: We got the og pot legend in the building. Hey, King, would.

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Speaker 3: It do about the boy? The older, the sweetest, the

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Speaker 4: What what is that's day?

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Speaker 3: Yo?

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Speaker 1: You are so I feel like you're jealous that you're

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Speaker 4: Is inside the sentence outside? That's just what did you

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Speaker 4: develop this ib that's like that's left leftree talk.

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Speaker 2: Lefree talk talk.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, website for him for leper con porn.

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Speaker 3: If you're lucky to be Irish, you're lucky.

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Speaker 1: Enough, Okay, I don't know. I'm not gonna hold you up.

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Speaker 1: And King, you're doing way better than I could have.

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Speaker 1: I sounded like a pot when.

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Speaker 4: You sound bead at doing patchwad than I do doing Irish.

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't even gonna hold you.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually Jamaican, a pseudo far okay, y'all. Unfortunately journalism

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Speaker 1: Jason is with them kids. There's some event happening in

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Speaker 1: And as much as I say for them kids, I'm

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Speaker 1: because I still got to not husbands, not fathers. Over

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Speaker 1: here on the pot. What do you well?

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Speaker 2: Is this something I don't know?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm childless. I'm childless with all the

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Speaker 4: parential advice.

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Speaker 1: Now, y'all, that voice is my guy, the king of headline,

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Speaker 1: Jason jolly.

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Speaker 3: My blessing all the yap niggas.

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Speaker 2: You were supposed to do that in an Irish accent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait wait wait wait only because I just found

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Speaker 1: out there were black Russians?

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Speaker 2: Are there? Not black Irish?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah niggas everywhere they were black German. Those are

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Speaker 4: the listen, we're gonna we want to do a history

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Speaker 4: of course. And it's playing Jamal O'Sullivan fact. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah, Lafonso O'Shaughnessy out there out there doing something,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like he's out there somewhere

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Speaker 4: doing something I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Now, these don't really These kind of make my my yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're green as y'all have glasses on again. If

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Speaker 1: you want to watch the video of this, uh Me

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Speaker 1: and Jah are dressed as leprechauns.

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Speaker 3: I was coerced. I was, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was coerced. By the way, if this isn't the

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Speaker 1: most biracial thing ever. So I come in and want

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Speaker 1: us to dress like Leprecauns, and John's like, but Biggie

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Speaker 1: days today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to represent for Biggie Small, the illest.

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Speaker 2: So I told him, you know he has this cape open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, everybody's gonna keep a real nigga.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna keep a real Irish old nigga, and we

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Speaker 4: gonna motherfucking We're gonna represent Biggie Smalls.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We're gonna took our our

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Speaker 4: To the side, like t I p the King of

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Speaker 4: the South, and you know what I'm saying, We're gonna

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Speaker 4: We're gonna keep a real player in here.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna hold you.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that it was like Saint Patty's Day weekend

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Speaker 1: this weekend until I saw.

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Speaker 3: All the the parade till the whites come out.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't know Atlanta could be so bid you.

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Speaker 4: Know what the crazy part about it. I saw a

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Speaker 4: bunch of niggas down there too. I saw cheerleading teams

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Speaker 2: I'm like, were allowed to celebrate St Patty's Day?

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, listen, we're supposed to be celebrating sinners.

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Speaker 3: There's this possibility that sentators could win a bunch of

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Speaker 3: oscars tonight.

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Speaker 4: And how the black people overcame the blood sucking Irish

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Speaker 4: and here we are dressed as the oppressed, as a colonizer,

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Speaker 4: so we.

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Speaker 3: Were slips too.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm gonna get into. So do you

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Speaker 1: know the backstory of Saint Patty's.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea anything about Patrick's.

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Speaker 1: So I looked okay, and hopefully you guys now the

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Speaker 1: day today is actually Saint Patty's Day, So if you're

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Speaker 1: at work or your friends, you could actually be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you the history behind this thing.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a crazy thing. Saint Patrick ain't even Irish?

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Speaker 3: Who is he?

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Speaker 2: Bitch?

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Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's by the way. Way, by the way, last

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Speaker 1: week after Pott and we went out to eat and

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Speaker 1: they eighty six a couple things and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, bitch, and oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize, like, bitch is just a part of

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Speaker 1: my vocabulary.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: AnyWho, So Saint Patrick was actually born in Great Britain.

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Speaker 1: So St Patrick is actually British. Bro you ready, And

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Speaker 1: at sixteen, Irish raiders kidnapped him and made him a

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Speaker 3: Bro Listen.

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Speaker 1: Now, after becoming a slave, the nigga actually did get

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Speaker 2: Now hear me out, This is the crazy part.

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Speaker 1: And he apparently did believe that slavery was a choice

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Speaker 1: because he then decided, you know what, let me go

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Speaker 1: he chose to go back to the country that actually

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Speaker 1: enslaved him to preach the good Gospel. Now, legend says

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Speaker 1: he used the three leaf shamrock to explain the Christian Trinity,

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Speaker 1: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Now, for centuries,

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Speaker 1: it was just a religious in Ireland. And you want

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Speaker 1: to know the crazy part about this. In Ireland when

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Speaker 1: it was celebrated, all the pubs.

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Speaker 2: Were actually closed.

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Speaker 1: Everything was closed, like you know how like Brooklyn and

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Speaker 1: shit be shutting down deuring like the Jewish holidays and

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Speaker 2: Could even go to a pub.

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Speaker 1: So in the eighteen hundreds, though, the Irish immigrants in

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Speaker 1: the US started huge parades to celebrate their identity, kind

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Speaker 1: of like what we're doing now with Junetie, and in

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Speaker 1: And so now pretty much Irish prayde with American culture

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Speaker 1: equals We're gonna drink beer and we're great.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of anything more American than adopting a

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Speaker 4: holiday for capitalism and debauchery.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I ain't even know, like he.

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Speaker 3: Was a slave, so I never didn't know he was

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Speaker 3: a slave.

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Speaker 1: He was a slave and then became Christian and then

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Speaker 1: wanted to preach the good Gospel to the people who

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Speaker 1: enslaved him.

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Speaker 3: He better than me.

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Speaker 4: I'd have went back there with hell fire and pitchforce

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Speaker 4: burned that pitch down.

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Speaker 3: This is a selective ignorance past.

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 4: So the expectation for you listeners out there is to

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Speaker 4: expect ignorance with a little bit of information. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: I'm going to lean into the Caribbean aspect of this.

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Speaker 4: The Irish Caribbean connection stems from the seventeenth century force

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Speaker 4: transportation of Irish prisoners, indentured servants and settlers to the

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Speaker 4: islands like Monserrat, Barbados and Jamaica under British rule. British

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Speaker 4: always doing function, pretty proud and beating the chest. But

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Speaker 4: it was like y'all got a dark history as well,

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Speaker 4: and a big hand in all of this.

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Speaker 3: And this was during the Cromwellian era.

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Speaker 4: The history uh this history created a blend of cultures,

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Speaker 4: influencing surnames, music, food accents, with up to twenty five

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Speaker 4: percent of Jamaican's claiming Irish ancestry. The one thing about

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Speaker 4: Caribbean folks didn't adapt is pretzels, like the big pretzels.

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Speaker 3: That's their thing, right, I ain't gonna hold you pretzels.

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Speaker 2: No pretzels is German? Ain't it? German? Get you confusing

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Speaker 2: the White Country potato?

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Speaker 4: They do potatoes? What does Irish potato?

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Speaker 3: Right? Potatoes fix your face?

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Speaker 2: Can I tell y'all?

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Speaker 1: And maybe this is my mama's caucassidyation.

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Speaker 2: She loves shepherd's pie, no person meal.

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Speaker 3: I do you want better?

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Speaker 4: I will say that that could yeah without knowing you

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, Shepherd's Pie, We're going to take the bottom.

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Speaker 2: Can you put some ground beef? Do you put some

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Speaker 2: mashed p tiers on top of that thing with some cheese?

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Speaker 3: It's the version of it's the version of the designa yeah,

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Speaker 1: People know it's given castle role. It's just a differ

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Speaker 4: This the Shepherd's Pie at Cheesecake Factory is fucking delicious.

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Speaker 4: How about Factor Cheesecake Cheesecake Factory having a lot of dope, Well.

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Speaker 2: They should have dope ship.

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Speaker 1: It's only a fucking forty five page menu, like they

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Speaker 4: If your culture ever invented anything. They selling it at

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Speaker 2: Now other other Irish dishes. Mate, it is corn beef

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Speaker 3: It it was like it was all over.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you okay? Can the mash all?

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Speaker 3: That ship is not good for your gas intestinal track?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh Bailey and whiskey.

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, I'm here for any celebration to dress

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Speaker 3: Genis I like guns? You know there's I'm a stout

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Speaker 4: You Caribbean too, in the Caribbean as a drink, right,

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Speaker 4: my aunt told me, because I'm part Beijing myself. My

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Speaker 4: you start dating girls, you're gonna drink this drink you

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Speaker 2: You're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Younnis. That was the first tiger bomb.

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Speaker 4: Some carnation milk a little bit and eggs, like like

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Speaker 3: And that's not like you're gonna put it in the Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the whole cheeks like no combinations.

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Speaker 4: You blended in the blender and then you drink it

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Speaker 4: and it's supposed to make that's like the pack. I

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Speaker 4: keep you from getting somebody pregnant. Oldrian like, let me

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Speaker 4: drink your own kind of concoctions. King.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like bubble gus. Yeah, that's outing.

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Speaker 1: That sounds crazy and it does say, of course, YOI

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Speaker 2: It's a Caribbean guinness punch.

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Speaker 1: But you also add nutmeg and cinnamon and vanilla extract

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Speaker 2: That sounds like dessert.

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Speaker 3: That that that's that. But but what did you put that? Get? Like?

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: Kick is today y'all Yo, shout out to the Irish

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Speaker 3: frokes man.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, I do want to ask you only because in

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Speaker 1: be a scary movie when I was growing up with

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Speaker 1: a leprechaun that was real scary.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Caprican was classic, fun nineties.

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Speaker 1: Classic, and y'all know, I'm trying not to age this show.

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Speaker 1: And then one of my favorite cereal growing up was

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Speaker 1: It's it's Lucky charms, Irish. No, that's American. It's General Mills, right.

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Speaker 3: The General Mill. Yeah, Irish?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember wait? Do you remember?

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is gonna be only because commercials used to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, do you.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Order of the Marshmallows? No, no, no, don't

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Speaker 1: look it up. But there's a jingle to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a go ahead start heart.

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Speaker 1: Stars, horseshoes, clovers, and balloons, yes, that's yeah, butts of

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Speaker 1: gold and rainbows, Oh my god, end me red balloons.

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Speaker 2: I think they say balloons twice if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Damn, I haven't heard that ship is so long you

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Speaker 3: just took.

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Speaker 2: By the way. I don't know if there's a little

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Speaker 2: jing of a viction, clovers and balloons.

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Speaker 3: And rainbows, Irish folk.

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Speaker 2: Blue moons, okay, it's blue moons.

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Speaker 4: Then balloons they have they have like the beers and

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Speaker 4: no mustache, the Irish cats.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, shamans and then be out there by

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Speaker 2: I do want to shout out.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, I was just told that I

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Speaker 1: I also had an ignorant thought. She was like, of

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Speaker 1: course he's Irish, that's where the red hair comes.

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Speaker 3: Irish Irish as fu.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but do all like, are all gingers Irish?

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Speaker 3: I thought he was Dominican, all right, Irish ginger. I

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Speaker 1: Anyways, before we get into all of our sports topics

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Speaker 2: Being dressed like lepercuns?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I had to.

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Speaker 4: So I went to go get a haircut that I

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Speaker 4: planned on, that I planned on rocket that I had

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Speaker 4: myself trimmed up for being shaggy.

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Speaker 3: And then this nigga want me to come in here

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Speaker 3: and dress and clectic. Don't worry. So now I'm in

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Speaker 3: here in my inclect the outfit. We got some barber

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Speaker 3: essentials over here. You know what I mean? Oh, you know, true, true, true,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get that freshery later on, you know.

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Speaker 4: But so look, so I understand that nowadays, everybody trying

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Speaker 4: needs the Wi fi to help prop up their economy.

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Speaker 4: I understand that. But I get to the barber shop,

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Speaker 4: I sit in the chair, I'm not even paying attention

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Speaker 4: to nothing. And you know, he asked me what I

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Speaker 4: want to do? Boom, I give him instructions.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 4: He turns around. He started talking real loud. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: why is this nigga talking so loud? All of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: I turn around, this nigga is on live stream in

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Speaker 4: my haircut.

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Speaker 3: This nigga's live. So I'm like, at first, I'm looking,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you're not even gonna.

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Speaker 4: Ask me if you if I don't want me free right,

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Speaker 4: that's that's what I want him now. I want him

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so we're getting money today? Like, what

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Speaker 4: you mean we're getting money?

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Speaker 3: Money? What you mean you gains? I said, you got

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Speaker 3: your you got your law stream up right here? We're

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Speaker 3: getting money today? Or what's what's going on? Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, no, you know, I'm just trying to get my content, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're trying to get your content? When was you gonna

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Speaker 4: to me reduction in that feet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, bro, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: You asked me sixty five dollars for this haircut and

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Speaker 4: you want to just make content anyone taking likeness?

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Speaker 3: Nigga? What Like? I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think that men deal with that too.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it never happened to me. That was the

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Speaker 4: first time it ever happened to me. And I was

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Speaker 4: like this nigga not even gonna say nothing. He just

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Speaker 4: gonna sto.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know I love you?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: How how scruffy? Because the only content I see with.

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Speaker 1: Men is when they go in looking real bad and

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Speaker 1: then they come out.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, how bad?

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Speaker 3: No, I was crazy.

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Speaker 4: I had picked my whole ship out, so like it

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Speaker 4: six Got.

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Speaker 2: To hit you with that before and after, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: Was all over the place. He was like the I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: what were we doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That's why he put that camera on.

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Speaker 1: He said, I need y'all to watch me watch but

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Speaker 1: it got worse. So I want him about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm a chill out. I'm out.

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Speaker 4: I'm a chill out. I turned around. At one point

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Speaker 4: the Nigga had two viewers in the live. He talking

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Speaker 4: to you about, Hey, Tony, come down here. I'm like, Nigga,

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Speaker 4: don't nobody nobody's watching this ship? My god, like nobody's

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Speaker 4: watching this ship. Turn his fucking camera off. But then

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Speaker 4: he tries to hit me with the Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 2: What's the steve?

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Speaker 3: He pull out?

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Speaker 4: He pull out the ninety degree angle piece of plastic,

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Speaker 4: pull out the little his little spray bottle.

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Speaker 3: It tries to hit me with the enhancements.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I got many multiple Yeah, he tried to beaninging

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Speaker 4: me out.

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Speaker 3: Now was it liquid or with powder? Liquid? That's not

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Speaker 3: watch all that I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure he sprayed the first I was like, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I got your hairlines, Like, Nigga, I have a hairline.

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Speaker 3: My ship is not you try to trade young me.

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Speaker 4: Now, like like just line me up and let me

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Speaker 4: go about my business.

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Speaker 3: But he tried it. I felt, I felt a type

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Speaker 3: of way about it.

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Speaker 2: That's something that y'all have to actually ask.

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Speaker 4: For, you to ask for or he's supposed at least

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Speaker 4: ask you, Hey, do you do? Nigga just pulled out

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Speaker 4: and just start going like whoa.

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Speaker 3: So this is you, This is your normal barber. This

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Speaker 4: So I was cutting my own hair for a long

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Speaker 4: time because I was just tired of Barbara, of course,

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Speaker 4: but about two months ago I found this dude. He

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Speaker 4: cut me real quick on like the last minute, and

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Speaker 4: it was a decent cut. Cool, I'll rock with you.

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Speaker 4: So this is the third time I sat in his chair.

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Speaker 3: Oka, he's new. He's yeah, he's not enough.

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Speaker 4: I said, like, they're supposed to ask you like my

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Speaker 4: barber shot the goose. He he he doesn't do to.

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Speaker 4: There's a difference between the wet and the dry. There's

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Speaker 4: a dry either the dry a spray powder right, the

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Speaker 4: one someone.

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Speaker 2: That looks like it's coming out of the spray paint, right.

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Speaker 3: But it depends on how they use it. Brush right.

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Speaker 4: You could get a line up and they'll just hit

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Speaker 4: enough where and it's just for when you walk out

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Speaker 4: the But the liquid joint, now that's a different thing

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Speaker 4: because it has to have to spray a out of

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Speaker 4: it so it can stay. You're right, and it's gonna

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Speaker 4: wash wash off. I'm like you, and then you might

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Speaker 4: be allergic. You might be hyper allergetic.

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Speaker 3: I could be. Yeah. You're not gonna ask no question.

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Speaker 4: Do you mind it? They're supposed to ask you. Yo,

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Speaker 4: you mind if I put this? They asked you about alcohol?

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Speaker 4: You you want alcohol?

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Speaker 2: Hold you? That's crazy, brof the niggas spend the night

445
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: on my pillows.

446
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna be tight white ship.

447
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't even think like I would be so upset

448
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: by that. Like if a niggas hair.

449
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 4: Hairline, imagine after a Mandy session, all that sweat and.

450
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: It went what's the highest and lowest, the highest and lowest? Quick?

451
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: You know, got poked in your booty and yeah, yeah,

452
00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.

453
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: But the great thing, Manny, the thing is too is

454
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: like if he comes to your crib right after the.

455
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 3: Haircut with the Beijing you know, I'm not sheets.

456
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 4: You might not even get a shot thing because mayb

457
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: you're gonna look at this nigga and be like, what

458
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 4: is that in your like not even that?

459
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: Plus he dried up and I'm calling you Carlos.

460
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: They don't like that one in the comments because they

461
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 4: was really excited about you.

462
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: They thought you didn't do this for real, y'all.

463
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: Know where full court came.

464
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot every Oh he did.

465
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that nigga's hair was wiping off on goddamn jerseys.

466
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: That's it.

467
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy. That's a little crazy. I'm not gonna

468
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: come on, man, come on man, all right, well, let's

469
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: get into it.

470
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: Let's get into I'm glad that you did wipe that

471
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: shut off because I don't hold you.

472
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: I would have well.

473
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: Camera today, like what are we doing? Right?

474
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 4: So, Mandy, just so just to add this to most

475
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: bar is now, not all, but a lot of them,

476
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: I would say, over the last five years, they've taken

477
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 4: the idea of putting ring cameras and ring lights in there,

478
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: all that right, like the big for content.

479
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 3: Some of them do it the right way, right post

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 3: before and after. Some of them don't. In your case, yeah,

481
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: so that is the thing to me.

482
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: All of those are supposed to be set up ahead

483
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 4: of time. You about to come and get a cut,

484
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: right cool? Can I record this whole thing? We get

485
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: hot treatments?

486
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: Do y'all say yes? When they asked, can I record you?

487
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 3: Literally the first time I've ever been recorded at a barber.

488
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: My barber and the girl who break my hair, they do.

489
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 4: Uh, they'll do before and after they do from the top, okay,

490
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 4: and it's all discussed before.

491
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: It's not it was whatever, right, Yeah, they do it

492
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: the right way.

493
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: Very very rarely do I say yes, especially if I'm

494
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: a paying customer.

495
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: But the other people you're familiar with, if I'm.

496
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Paying, not like my my the person that's been doing

497
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: my blonde now for five years, Yeah, yeah, you got it,

498
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: got and she done kept my price, her price from

499
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: five years ago, because it's like yesterday's price is not

500
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: today's price, and she kept it, so that works out.

501
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: But for the most part, if I'm a.

502
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: Pain customer now Vietnam, do not before.

503
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: And after me? Baby? What are we talking about?

504
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: No?

505
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Anyways, before and after Technically we spoke about before the

506
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: cancelation of Magic City Night with the Orlando Magic versus

507
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: the Hawks, and we are now in the after part

508
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: of that because they have literally one week before the

509
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: game took place, which was this past Monday, they canceled it.

510
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: So clownery, Okay, you say clownery. I do want to

511
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: share something that the AJAC in terms of how they

512
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: explained why they mixed it. Following the NBA's decision to

513
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: cancel Magic City Monday, the AJAC has invited the Atlantic

514
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: community to sit with something deeper in their collect they

515
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: work as anti trafficking advocates and they've been involved in

516
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: countless cases where traffickers groon, recorded, or forced women to

517
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: work at strip clubs and took all of the money

518
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: that those women earned. So here is the invitation that

519
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: the AJAC put it to the hawks of the NBA,

520
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: to city leaders, and to anyone who found themselves thinking

521
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: about these questions.

522
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: We invite you into this conversation.

523
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: We want to work together, learn from another, and search

524
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: for real solutions to address the systems that allow exploitation

525
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: to flourish. Now really interesting because during our conversations the

526
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: idea of sex trafficking wasn't really brought.

527
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 2: To our attention. I'm not sure in what space this became.

528
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: The reasoning that the NBA nixed it as much as

529
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: they just kept leaning into the fact that this is

530
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: a family brand.

531
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: Now.

532
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Ironically and hilariously enough, the same week there was a

533
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Crown Royal Night that was promoted, and so of course

534
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: the internet also compared the two, like, are we also

535
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: enticing children to drink alcohol and make it seem like,

536
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: you know.

537
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: It's cool and fun?

538
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: And I will say where I sat with this.

539
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: It was just another way that I realized that women

540
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: are just not celebrated in any of their life decisions.

541
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: As a sexually liberated being, You're looked at as the

542
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: most disgusting, most vile person and that there is no

543
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: reason to celebrate you. And so I know that we

544
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: leaned into the Magic City wings in the kitchen. I

545
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: know that we leaned into even the performance element of TI,

546
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: which t I still did perform and is performing for halftime.

547
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: But I was just like, wow, this caused such a

548
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: Sirmind you look the the white boy in al Horford.

549
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas weren't even gonna be playing at all.

550
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know why y'all had to speak to

551
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: but it like heavily weighed with me that I was like, damn,

552
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't. But also

553
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: like a sexually liberated woman is not one to celebrate.

554
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: A woman who chooses this path.

555
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Is not celebrated, ironically in the same league and amongst

556
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: the powerful men who are deviantly led by sex, led

557
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: by lust. I was I will say my opinion on

558
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: them actually canceling this. The reason why I thought it

559
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: was terrible is only because they weren't refunding tickets, so

560
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people bought these at an accelerated rate

561
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: compared to what maybe you could get Hawks tickets for

562
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: the low but like basically where you could honestly go

563
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: to a game for thirty dollars, those same thirty dollars

564
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: tickets were going for two hundred plus. Yep, they didn't

565
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: issue refunds. And for me, they also let people know

566
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: a week before, like people have travel plans.

567
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: People were flying in for this.

568
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be a thing.

569
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: This was gonna be a huge thing.

570
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm mad that they canceled it because again, I've

571
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: been seeing NBA dancers with they tits and ass in

572
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: my face since I was a young one.

573
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: I just came on here talking about All Star Weekend,

574
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: how it's a part of the thing, and I want

575
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: the sexy girls on the court.

576
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: So this is just like, eh, it's leaning hypocritical to me.

577
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know y'alls thoughts.

578
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: I got a problem with this on multiple levels.

579
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: I'm not even the canceling of it or the throwing

580
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: of it.

581
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: The canceling or the throwing.

582
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: Of this night where do you? Oh?

583
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: No, I have a probably with the canceling of it. Talk,

584
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: I have a problem with the canceling of it.

585
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: Before I say anything else, I'll say that I'm never

586
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: gonna rock with the whatever the conservative Christian point of

587
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: view is, I'm never gonna.

588
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Rock with that period, no off top.

589
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: I'm on the other side of that, and like a

590
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: lot of you, niggas are participating in that.

591
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: Like a lot of the reaction to this reminded me

592
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: of when people.

593
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: See like gay couples, gay sex scenes, gay kissing in movies.

594
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: And how am I supposed to play in this to matildren?

595
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: You know, ma, children, you gotta be men kissing men,

596
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: And what am I supposed to say to my children?

597
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: You could just stop being a punk as.

598
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: Parent and just tell your child, Hey, niggas is gay,

599
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: so men like men. Some women like women or people

600
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: love with it, whatever you want to give it as

601
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: you can keep it real simple.

602
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: And in this case, some women decide to.

603
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: Dance or even if you don't want to go down

604
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: that route.

605
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: And Magic City is a place for adults. The same way,

606
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: if your child want to they wanted to go see

607
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: an L rated movie, you say, hey, you can't go

608
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: see Diehard too, because that's an adult movie. When you

609
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: get old enough, you can go, but it is a

610
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: movie that has violence in it. Or what's it magic City?

611
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: It's people are dancing and having fun and drinking alcohol.

612
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: It's it's not for you play for a dotes. It's

613
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: really that simple. So all of that, like what am

614
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: I supposed to tell my kids? Like that's some bullshit?

615
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: Like you say.

616
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: That too, because what about the ones of us with

617
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: no kids.

618
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: Going to a basketball game is also an adult thing

619
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: to do too. We go, we like to have fun,

620
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: we drinking our beers, we eating the bullshit food and

621
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: we shouldn't eat. It's also, while there is a family

622
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: friendly element to it, who the fuck is paying for

623
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: the tickets the adults? So having even this adult centre

624
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: night is what's the problem. It's like what are we

625
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: You're catering to both people.

626
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: It was as sanitized as it could possibly be.

627
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: It was just the word Magic City, like there was

628
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: nothing lude or lurid.

629
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: About to happen.

630
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: But you know, but a lot of these people carry

631
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: this shit as if something something wild was gonna happen,

632
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: or it was gonna be something that was going to

633
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: fuck up the kids, or whatever the case is. But

634
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: beyond that, I have the real problem I have with

635
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: it is like this slick ass wording that they try

636
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: to use to justify what they're talking about. They keep

637
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: talking about exploitation and trafficking unless you have a specific

638
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: charge that you're levying against Magic City or a woman

639
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: that's coming for you saying this shouldn't be doing this

640
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: because XYZ woman has come forth to say she's being trafficked,

641
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: whatever the case is, to just put that on.

642
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: Magic City is a legal business. It is.

643
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: Magic City is not a speak easy, it's not a

644
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 4: juke joint. It's not some down low yet to find.

645
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: If you know, you know, this is a legal business

646
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: that have been paying taxes and operating this city forty years.

647
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: It's not a criminal enterprise.

648
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: If you don't like the idea of strippers and sex

649
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: and all of that. Then that's fine, But your religious

650
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: dogma doesn't have nothing to do with what businesses and

651
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: corporations should be doing or what you should be doing

652
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: with your own kids. Like, you make those decisions, and

653
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: those are your decisions. But to try to make it

654
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: like Magic City should be looked into for like a

655
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: rico charge because they're trafficking women. Those are grown ass

656
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: Black women who made grown ass decisions about what they

657
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: want to do. Yeah, and your Christian conservative lens is

658
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: so myopic that you think you can't even fathom the

659
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: idea that a woman would want to do sex for

660
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: money in your mind, that's unfathomable unless you're being tricked

661
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 4: or being coerced in some kind of way. And it's like, no,

662
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: black people aren't stupid. People can make their own decisions,

663
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: and if these women decided to dance to make their money,

664
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: that's their decision. They don't have nothing to do with you.

665
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: Don't use Jesus as the spiritual shield for you to

666
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: practice your ism, your misogyny, or whatever your thing is.

667
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: Like to me, that just makes me think that you

668
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: don't think much of these black women because you think basically,

669
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: they're too stupid to do this. There's no way they

670
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: would do this unless someone was making them a victim

671
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: of something.

672
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: And what I was looking up real quick too, did

673
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: these charges because even in terms of trafficking, that was

674
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: like a question. But like all these athletes and flew

675
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: out some women for some pussies.

676
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Like Zion.

677
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: I think that that's the other conversation that is, like,

678
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: if we're really leaning on caring about these women, and

679
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: then why is there not in any sort of approach

680
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: to making sure their players aren't in these establishments or

681
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: making sure that the league is not attached or associated

682
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: with any mind you fucking Paul George's wife now, which

683
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know how they made it. There was a stripper

684
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: from Tutsis and he tried to offer her mad money

685
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: for an abortion.

686
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: They not got four kids and they're married.

687
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: But like a lot of these men are also married

688
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: to former dancers. They go and celebrate at these plays.

689
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: All those popular players in the league have been seen

690
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: in strip clubs, taking pictures, in music videos, in strip clubs,

691
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: all kind of stuff.

692
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: You have a person that now also is an analyst

693
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: and speaks about the game who literally has a wing

694
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: flavor named after him in this establishment?

695
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? You're with them canceling it?

696
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: Yes? Explain why? Sure? Explain why?

697
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: Why are we surprised in the society we live in

698
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: today would accept that we have to play ball.

699
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: Right?

700
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: They accept everything we gotta play right that that they

701
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: accept everything else that they can control.

702
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: Right. Since we're doing St.

703
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: Patti's right, We're going to give you some Irish translations.

704
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: Here we go. They don't want the dark little ones.

705
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: The dark little ones want them running up in the

706
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 4: State Farm Arena with the aura and energy of what

707
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: Magic City represents.

708
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Do you think I was about to say, you've been.

709
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: I see uteruses and cheeks on a regular basis.

710
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 3: So many areolas.

711
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: They dress so like if if we really cared about

712
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: this being a family friendly thing.

713
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: Now we're about to sound real old job.

714
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: Let me tell you State Farm Marena would at least

715
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: have a dress code, because baby, you are seeing coochie

716
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: lips and as cheeks.

717
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: You're a regular Milwaukee Bucks game right.

718
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: But a few things.

719
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: The establishments ran by a black man.

720
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, I'm not telling my magic the

721
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: NBA the product.

722
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: Okay, they have border directors and they have all these

723
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: other layers and advocate for these type of knights and whatever.

724
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: I could see a scenario where somebody was in that

725
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: board like yo, you know, but we could frame it differently,

726
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: and it was probably some like I don't know, from

727
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: them for them, and they said all right, they greenlited.

728
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: But now possibly corporate sponsors who don't like the dark

729
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: looked through ones, right, they probably like, yeah, you're really

730
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: going to do this ship. Yes, we know it's not

731
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: the strip of stripped thing, but boom, it's the energy,

732
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: it's the aura, it's the what it represents. I know

733
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: it's contradictory because of what you said, right, but they

734
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: ultimately have the when it comes to us and that ship,

735
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: it's just we're never gonna be on the winning side

736
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: of that conversation, so we shouldn't expect to have it.

737
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: The fact that they say yes and was able.

738
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: To pull that back and say no, that's that's haha.

739
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: We still run this ship, niggas. I feel like they don't.

740
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 4: I feel like they care about money more than they

741
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: care about all of that. And this Magic City Night

742
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: was already basically what you're talking about with the inflated tickets.

743
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: They were about to make a bunch of money.

744
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 4: And you know what would have been the headlines on

745
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: Tuesday morning, That administration that's creating these conflicts abroad. They

746
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 4: would have focused on that with long ass Twitter feed.

747
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: It's over there.

748
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: I mean, but but Trump got something to say about

749
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: every motherfucking thing.

750
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: Don't know how to get that what the Orange SHEETO

751
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: got to say?

752
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: I think we do because we know there's gonna be

753
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: some outlandish ass ship. I don't even think I think

754
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: that like Luke Cornett and our war for coach signing it,

755
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 4: Richard Jefferson talking about it on on D one making

756
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: this song and his music video, and.

757
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Either Today.

758
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: Is lame.

759
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I literally had D one. I was like, are you serious?

760
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: Because he was doing so much. I was like, are

761
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: you really upset like with this? Like I was, I

762
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: was concerned, but this was we think the opposite on everything.

763
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: But I was like, there's no way you're really this

764
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: upset about this night.

765
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: But you're right. He put out like three songs.

766
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 4: It was like.

767
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 3: Proud of himself.

768
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm just like, so culturally, do we lose anything by

769
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: not having the night?

770
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's I don't think we lose.

771
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: Okay, but no, I don't think it's a matter of

772
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a winner lost thing for the culture.

773
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: If Atlanta was a top seed team in the East,

774
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: do you think it would have they would have DoD Yeah,

775
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: I think so too. I think if they were the

776
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: top three seed.

777
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Wasn't even a televised game, was it?

778
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: No? Probably not?

779
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: And and also let's be super clear about this, like this,

780
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: this was conceptualized by a rich, rich, rich white woman.

781
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: M So, this wasn't no like old niggas think they're

782
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: gonna pull the wool like. Jamie Gertz is the principal

783
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: owner of the Atlanta Hawks. She produced the Magic City documentary,

784
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 4: and she is white as white, white white.

785
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: She's from Let me.

786
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: So like, this wasn't no ship where niggas was trying

787
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: to pull the wool over the eyes.

788
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: Jamie ger like you like frosh.

789
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: She looks like she has three biracial kids.

790
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't want a bunch of Jalen's but.

791
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: A bunch of Yeah.

792
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't know who her husband is, Tony Wrestler, Okay, okay, yeah,

793
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: it smells like her and the people at the Hawks.

794
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: The conception that really put this thing together.

795
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: This is not no like Nigga, this is like something

796
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: that she genuinely doesn't feel like there's a problem with it.

797
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 4: And so like again, I'm never gonna be on the

798
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: side of the Christian conservative POV like once that comes

799
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: into play, I'm out because all that shit is is

800
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: a shield to just practice whatever it is you want

801
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: to practice and hide behind Jesus and say, what is

802
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: what Jesus? What's Jesus business? You ain't Jesus yo. Miss Gertz, Hey, listen,

803
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: we support you. And if you ever want to take

804
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: us out to Magic City because you eat wings with

805
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: Jamie gert said, we will.

806
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: Happily accompany you. You know what I'm saying.

807
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: She's they said she's eight billion dollars richer than Oprah Winfrey.

808
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: Now let me ask let me ask both of you all

809
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: the questions. Let me ask you both of you all a

810
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: question a king specifically, actually, since you have more of

811
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the conservative lends here. No, I'm curious if Magic City

812
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: is something that you don't want celebrated.

813
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you feel like would cause

814
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: this much outrage?

815
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: Be me clarsified not that I want it.

816
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, let's look at it from the lens

817
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: of the powers that be who are in control of

818
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: this thing, and why we should manage our expectations when

819
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: it comes to these asks from those people. Because you

820
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: mentioned it and when you was saying, you know that

821
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: you was for it, that the Christian conservative society is

822
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: not going yeah, so we shouldn't expect them to go no.

823
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, but they'll tolerate. But it's ship But but

824
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: that's my problem though, the hypocrisy of it. Be like

825
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 4: a sin is a sin is to say, if you're

826
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: that Christian, you're that about the Bible, and you're that

827
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: about Jesus, A sin is a sin is a sin. Technically,

828
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: Jesus doesn't look at you opening your pussy lips any

829
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: different than he looks at murder or stealing or lying.

830
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: It's all the same. A sin is the sin is

831
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: all of this inens you the hell. So the idea

832
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 4: that this sex is weighted differently, so much weighted differently

833
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: in it's this society where these people try to act

834
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: as if sex is like the worst sin. If you're horney,

835
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: if you're lusty, if you have any of that on

836
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: you like, that is the worst thing you can be.

837
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: If you're a whore harlot, that's the worst thing you

838
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: can be. You can work your way back from all

839
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: the other.

840
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: Jebel They don't want to have the Jezebel.

841
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: Sphere right, no more?

842
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, but it's like y'all are treating sex as

843
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: if it's very different and the only thing that I

844
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 4: can I can the only way I can rationalize that

845
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: is through misogyny.

846
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: Can I tell you that this reminds me right now?

847
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I think more people talked about this promotional night than

848
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: they have any other game this whole season. This got

849
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: more press than All Star weekended a thousand and this

850
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: is where I'm like, is the game right now that bad?

851
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Because this past week the conversation was about Bam one

852
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: Bio scoring eighty three.

853
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: First off, I've been doing this for a little shit.

854
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: I know how to do a little transition.

855
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 4: I was I was gonna add something to repent.

856
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: Well, everyone has now been upset with this eighty three

857
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: point game. Yes, that Bam had now here is what

858
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: the critics have focus on. I'm going to bring up

859
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: with the critics and folks on then we'll share our

860
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: thoughts and see where we fall on the mix. By

861
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: the way, Google has compettis when you.

862
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: Look him up.

863
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: If you were literally at your desk right now typing

864
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Bam out of bio because a lot of you probably

865
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: don't know.

866
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Who this nigga is. We'll get into that too.

867
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: He now here is the criticism the fact that Abayi

868
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: stayed in the game during the blowout to chase the record,

869
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: that the heat intentionally fouled and created extra possessions to

870
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: help him score more, and that he attempted forty three

871
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: free throws, which fueled accusations of stat padding. Now head

872
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: coach Eric Spoltra defended defended the decision and said that

873
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: he apologizes to absolutely.

874
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: No one period.

875
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I was laid out with my

876
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: nigga and he was like, he was like, yo, did

877
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: you see what Bam did tonight?

878
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: And I was like nah.

879
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: He was like, if you had to guess how many

880
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: points he.

881
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: Scored, what do you bet LIKEA I said thirty eight,

882
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: which is ironic because.

883
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: Said thirty eight. So he goes to pull up. He

884
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: was like, don't look at the video. Don't look at

885
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: the video.

886
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: He goes to screenshirt things so he can watch it

887
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: on TV. And so we watched him score every point.

888
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he had thirty eight like in

889
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Something stupid thirty something in the first quarter.

890
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: So we keep watching it. Halftime comes, I think he

891
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: is I don't know, sixty maybe.

892
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: At the half something ridiculous.

893
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: And as I keep watching it, he's in his seventies.

894
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: By the third quarter, they're up by twenty something points,

895
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, why is he still in the game.

896
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: I literally asked this question, said, why is he still

897
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: in the game? Any other star player starter, if you

898
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: are up by this much in a game by this point.

899
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: Bow out gracefully.

900
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happens, and you sit chass down,

901
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: and then you watch a whole bunch of niggas that

902
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: never get in the game throw bricks at the goddamn

903
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: courn Okay, So I was like, Wow, he's still in

904
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: And so then as we're in the fourth quarter, all

905
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: the way down to the last minute, we see him

906
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: chasing this record. Now the record is, of course Kobe Bryant,

907
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: who scored.

908
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: Eighty one and second Chamberlain Will Chamberlain, Yeah, don't count

909
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: he scored over one hundred.

910
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: We're not here. We're not do we not No, we're

911
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: not getting no, no, we're not doing that.

912
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: We're not doing what.

913
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: We're not going. That's the problem. The Frameman has been

914
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: crazy because people keep talking about Kobe's record. I'm like, Kobe,

915
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: we don't have no record.

916
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: Kobe was number two. You don't get on record for

917
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: being number two.

918
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: But at this nigga as if he did the thing,

919
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, Well Chamberlain did the thing.

920
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: Okay, well, well in a different era, a very different

921
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: eraror very different era.

922
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: This caveats to all of this.

923
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: By the way, real quick, real quick, if I'm not mistaken, now,

924
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Will did score thirty one points in the fourth quarter

925
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: and fifty nine in the second half. Right, But what

926
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: was different about the game back then as to why

927
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: we questioned it, because I see.

928
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: They wasn't doing three points every fucking shot a two

929
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 4: point range game and all that layups, real ship, And

930
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: then people always make the argument about the level of athleticism,

931
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: how good the players were in a certain area.

932
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: You only play who was in front of you, right,

933
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't.

934
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: That's why you can't compare when it's the when Jordan

935
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: was playing a lot of hand checking. There's no hand

936
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 4: checking now, right, So the theory would be it as

937
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: easier to score a buckets now. So plus, if it

938
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: was that easy, a bunch of Nigga would have scored

939
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: a hundred points.

940
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: A lot of them have scored seventy's a lot of

941
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: seventy points.

942
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Three every shot.

943
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Quite a few players who have dame. Okay, now you

944
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: said who gets credit for being number two? I did

945
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: have a thought about this. Do you also.

946
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: Feel like everyone was so upset that he chased this

947
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: record because of the untimely passing of Kobe, and how

948
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: we still honor Kobe.

949
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: And we liked that Kobe got that.

950
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: It's like, I feel like that's a part of it

951
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: because I'm just like But also, if we compare the two, right,

952
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this much criticism comes from a Curry

953
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: if he gets it. I don't even think if kd

954
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: gets it, it comes from that if Jalen. I think

955
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: also the fact that a lot of people this isn't

956
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: a popular in the league, not even their highest scoring

957
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: all Starry, He's not.

958
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: A super star.

959
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Three Now, for me, I thought it was cool. I say,

960
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: eighty three kind of cool. I do think he should

961
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: have went out, so I get a little bit of

962
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: that upset. I didn't expect the outrage that I've seen

963
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: online around it, because records are meant to be broken.

964
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen. What is two things? A bam

965
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: had seventy by the third or so.

966
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't like they just did some bullshit at the

967
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: end and gave the nigga forty five points in the

968
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: fourth quarter end to try to make something crazy. He

969
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 4: was already whooping these niggas ass As a solo individual performer,

970
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 4: they couldn't do on. He was just on, and once

971
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 4: he got to a certain point, I was like, okay,

972
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: you could have taken him out. But also, this kind

973
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 4: of thing happens in sports all the time. When when

974
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: Michael Strahan got the sack record to beat Reggie White,

975
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: when Ritt Fark just like basically collapsing straight hand touched

976
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: his shoulder, I got a sack.

977
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: I break the record.

978
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: This happens all the time in basketball other sports where

979
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 4: if you're that close to it, your teammates and your coach,

980
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: if you're that close to it naturally, they want to

981
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 4: help you out, get.

982
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: You to the over the top.

983
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: But Kobe, there's a big reason, Like niggas love Kobe,

984
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 4: and like they can't world something too.

985
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned him outing seventy and the third y

986
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: only pulled something up. But the fact that Wilt Chamberlain's

987
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: game also wasn't televised. People imagine it as a pure

988
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: one hundred with uninterrupted domination from start to finish, right,

989
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: But people are saying that there is also a historic

990
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: number of people that attended the arena that said it

991
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: was very reminiscent of what Bam.

992
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: Did didn't during that time.

993
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: Where they pretty much let him.

994
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: You can't one hundred points with no help, Like nobody's

995
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: that damn about.

996
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: I think like the players identify that he's on a

997
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: different sphere right now. Yeah, and they just kept feeding

998
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: the beast until and once they saw there was a

999
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: there wasn't any disruption and how he was playing.

1000
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: He's, yo, we're just gonna le him, let him have it.

1001
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: And I think once you get to seventy two as

1002
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: a coach, he's like, you know what, I'm not going

1003
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: to I'm not going to stand in the way. It

1004
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: is now, I don't I think. Now, let me ask

1005
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: you something. If I don't know how he revered Kobe,

1006
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: but I know other players they hold Kobe to that

1007
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: godly If it was one of those players, if they

1008
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: had a guy to eighty two, you think they would

1009
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: have just said, yo, I don't want to break my

1010
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: man's right.

1011
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: No.

1012
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: Eighty one, eighty one, sorry eight, you think they would

1013
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: have fell back?

1014
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Good question, would you beat your if you love?

1015
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 4: If you love Kobe Bryant, I was a Kobe hater

1016
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: mind to I want to see Kobe lose every single

1017
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 4: game he ever because what though, because he was so good?

1018
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 3: No, I just thought he was a sucker. Oh him.

1019
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: We'd be a sports fan and just be like, oh,

1020
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: fuck him.

1021
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying, but here's the thing about it, Like, no,

1022
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: if you love Kobe Bryant like that, and you're in

1023
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: the mama mentality, Kobe Bryant is gonna shoot you in

1024
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: your forehead in front of your grandmam, and.

1025
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: It'd be like, all, well, nigga, that's Kobe Bryant.

1026
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: So like you can't bitch up because like that's what

1027
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: Kobe would want you to.

1028
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: Over and it is what it is.

1029
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: So if you're a Kobe fan like that, that's what

1030
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 4: you're supposed to got a hot take.

1031
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad. I'm not.

1032
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: You're just mad because this would have been a clip.

1033
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. The FBA community is here, we go, there we go. Uh.

1034
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: Kobe was born in Italy. Bamit the FBA before you

1035
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: even right the NBA. Nigga want Italy Millennium side is

1036
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: the straight American?

1037
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: They say Philly, right, they say Lower Mary just like

1038
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: Lower Marria.

1039
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: He's from He's from Philly, all right to you whatever

1040
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: house Lower Marion to South Philly like to Beanie Sea

1041
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 4: on them.

1042
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: Lower Marion is like.

1043
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: Like if I want to see how nigga in the

1044
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: same way that that Almeretta was like, if you're from Riverdale, nigga,

1045
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: you're not from Atlanta.

1046
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 3: How far is Riverdale from Atlanta? Twenty minutes? Riverdale is right?

1047
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: Airport is the airport college park? Right? So Kobe right

1048
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: there he was down with state property a little bit.

1049
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: So Bam is Nigerian?

1050
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh got Kobe Bryant was not born in Italy. Was

1051
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: born in Philadelphia, So so the FBA community. He moved

1052
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: to Italy when he was six, So my SI and

1053
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: he got there. Thanks for Thanks for yeo me with

1054
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: the fact check.

1055
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead with your hot taking.

1056
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 4: The foundation of Black Americans. Are not the happy that

1057
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 4: this Nigerian born NBA player broke this foundation of Black

1058
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 4: Americans right because they're not going to appreciate the historical

1059
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: context of.

1060
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 3: Being ahead of Kobe the right way, you know what

1061
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1062
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: So with those same FBAs have endured Kobe dealing with

1063
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: white women, They've been cool with that.

1064
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: Time in circumstance. Time opportunity creates circumstance.

1065
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: It's funny because he brought up the white woman.

1066
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I actually loved this Nigerian king brought his woman to

1067
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: the podium.

1068
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Right there.

1069
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Was happy because mind you, there was also people talking

1070
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: about that, but they don't be saying nothing about these

1071
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: badass kids that be being brought to the podium.

1072
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: So I love that he brought his black woman and.

1073
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Sat her to take in on this celebration with us.

1074
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: I thought that that was really dope. And she also

1075
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: holds the record of a highest scoring game for.

1076
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: The w W.

1077
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was bullshitting with the what I said, But

1078
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: the thing is, it's primarily because of the Kobe fandom. Yeah,

1079
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: and we thought that that record would never or that

1080
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: that his position would never be no one would ever

1081
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: be number two. Yeah, I mean, Jackson Jr. Was mad

1082
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: as hell that Nigga was on a crazy Twitter rant

1083
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: going in about how angry he was.

1084
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: That that was really weird.

1085
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: No, but that's but that's just just that just goes

1086
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: to show how much we're invested in our favorite players.

1087
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: That's just what Jordan's same thing with Jordan's Jordan is

1088
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: that's what and Lebron, those are those are.

1089
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: People stand out for them.

1090
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: This was this I will say what I thought about

1091
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: this and why it was so interesting to me is

1092
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: because the league is so heavily invested, and a lot

1093
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of you are heavily invested in the gambling aspects of this.

1094
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: So we're actively seeing teams tank right now, yep, so

1095
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: that they can have higher picks in the lottery or.

1096
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: Right. And and I bring up this this scenario with

1097
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards.

1098
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: Where's the competition and the Wizards even wanting this to

1099
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: happen against.

1100
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: And they just got Antonio and Anthony Davis and so

1101
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: y'all not going to play these guys could did they no, no, no,

1102
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: because they want to do exactly what you said, which

1103
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 4: which was which Adam Silva addressed, and he said, next

1104
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: year they'll be implementing right anti rookies. And oh, in

1105
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: regards to the free throws, that bam bam can't call

1106
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 4: us on files, that's true too, like the bamb can't call.

1107
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 3: Us on foule.

1108
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 4: So if the refs called that many files, is that abnormal?

1109
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that's abnormal. That's because the other team was

1110
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: trying to stop him, trying to stop him for getting

1111
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 4: the record, So it's like, what do y'all want him

1112
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: to do? Like plus, not to mention he only scored

1113
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 4: eighty three, but the nigga between free throws and field

1114
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: goals and three pointers, he missed like thirty shots. Like

1115
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 4: he was like twenty for forty. It was crazy seven

1116
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: for twenty two, so he could have scored a hundred soft.

1117
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 4: I got to see a hut. It's easy.

1118
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: Country ass Atlanta ass.

1119
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards asked, oh, gosh, did the balls in your court?

1120
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: Bro? You gotta get eighty five? Now what? At some

1121
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: point within his career he got to do you know

1122
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: what's crazy?

1123
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: The last person I want celebrated. Why, oh, Anthony ed nigga?

1124
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1125
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: First off, he's not a present father, he has accuations.

1126
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: Against him with women.

1127
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: The fact that they keep trying to make this nigga

1128
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: also the face of the league is crazy, Like I

1129
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: think true, It's just weird that this is who we

1130
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: have as someone to to platform right now, Like mind you, Well,

1131
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: the league just wants to keep talking about how corny

1132
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown is. He's he's right now being discussed as

1133
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: number seven for the MVP options. That's insane, And it's

1134
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: just like and then and then also the whole league

1135
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: talking about how boring Jason Tatum isn't why he don't

1136
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't get accolades. Yet there's no controversy around him. He

1137
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: clearly brings his brings deuce to every game. But yet

1138
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: we want to keep making the face of the league

1139
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, who said here goes your money for eighteen years,

1140
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be a part of that

1141
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: baby's life, and then to made kids with x y

1142
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: Z Elementop. We want to keep talking about Nick Cannon

1143
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: making all these broken homes.

1144
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 2: Yet we want to platform Anthony Edwards.

1145
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: As the face of the NBA while also not allowing

1146
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: us to promote Magic City. The hypocrisy and all of

1147
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: this is like we care when we do, but we

1148
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: don't when we don't.

1149
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 3: And that's the problem.

1150
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: Even you want to, I don't want.

1151
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1152
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: I was unaware about the uh that stuff. Honestly, I wasn't.

1153
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: I knew he was a deadbie dad.

1154
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: He was a super dead Bee dad and literally literally

1155
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: took took the woman to court and said, I'm gonna

1156
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: pay you this much money for eighteen years.

1157
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Here you have it in one lumps some payment.

1158
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't never, never ever talked to me.

1159
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to you. I don't want

1160
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: to be in this child.

1161
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: Life wild that is that is nuts, and that's the

1162
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: person we interesting.

1163
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: I didn't make the league.

1164
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: And he says it too, he said that's why I

1165
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: was drawing that from his assessment of himself.

1166
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 3: But I will say this, though.

1167
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: The when it comes to that face of the league thing,

1168
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 4: I feel like there are standards of morality that you

1169
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: can get away with that aren't necessarily crimes that they

1170
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: will still give people platforms too, Like you can be

1171
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: a bad person and not necessarily have committed a violent

1172
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: or sexually related crime, and they will still be like, Okay,

1173
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: he's an asshole that has some asshole ship with him,

1174
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: but like we'll still that's.

1175
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 3: His business, that's not our business. Right, they're separated. They

1176
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: will separate that ship in a heart.

1177
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: Now, let's be very clear. Anything in regards to mistreatment.

1178
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: Of a woman, they're more than happy.

1179
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Like the fact that we are celebrating even doctor Dre

1180
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: constantly becoming he just became a millionaire. But the celebration

1181
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: of doctor Dre, Yeah, multiple women that came out and

1182
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: said that he would be what cares. No one cares

1183
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: about dead beat dads. No one cares about abuse. There's

1184
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: no like if you were great at basketball or rapping

1185
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: or making beans, that's of.

1186
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: Being a bad person in those spaces. It just is

1187
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: what it is.

1188
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest with you. That leads us

1189
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: to our next fucking topic. Like James Pearce Jr. There

1190
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: are literal videos of James Pierce Junior literally refusing arrest,

1191
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: going against seven cops, being aggressive in front of a

1192
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: police station, tried to run over not just any woman

1193
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: but also a well known woman.

1194
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: And more famous than him, and yeah, so I see

1195
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: the video. That's I read. I read, we read last week,

1196
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: we read everything, but we.

1197
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Now no, no, no, there's video of him resisting arrest. Mind you,

1198
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: he tried to hit her with his lambeau in front

1199
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: of the police station.

1200
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: Now, y'all.

1201
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons rusher James Pierce Junior had four charges brought

1202
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: against him by the Miami Dade State Attorney regarding the

1203
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: February incident with NBA player Rakia Jackson. The twenty two

1204
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: year old Pierce, who did play at Tennessee, has been

1205
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: charged with only three felonies. Those charges are aggravated battery

1206
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: with a deadly weapon, fleeing and e looting police, and

1207
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: resisting an officer. However, the fourth felony charge, which is

1208
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: aggravated stocking felony aggravated stocking was just switched to misdemeanor.

1209
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: He was arrested and held over night, but of course

1210
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: was even given a bond and posting twenty thousand dollars

1211
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: and was released. So he's since been released.

1212
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: He harassed her, he chased her down with his vehicle,

1213
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: tried to hit her, and is out out free sleep

1214
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: in his own better.

1215
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean here's the thing, right, Like, and we are

1216
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: moving from.

1217
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: The NBA to the NFL.

1218
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: But I think, like I said, overall, I combined even again, rappers, producers,

1219
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: anyone who is seen as great even within our community

1220
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: and beyond. Right because sports is not just limited to

1221
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: black the black community, but when you were great at something,

1222
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: the things that you do kind of get looked over.

1223
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, And like James Pearce Jr.

1224
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: There's no there hasn't been any word whether the Falcons

1225
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: will cut him. I think I think he will get

1226
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 4: cut ultimately because I don't know that.

1227
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: No.

1228
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: Wait, there's a lot happening with your team. Did they

1229
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: just cut because of some other behavior? Wasn't a coach

1230
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: or something just cut from the Falcons?

1231
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: He was?

1232
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: He was like he was a not even assistant coach.

1233
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: He was like a I think he was a not

1234
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: a wide receivers coach. I forget what his position was.

1235
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: He was like a film random film room but something

1236
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, he got he got cut for

1237
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: it was some type of sexual text that he sent

1238
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 4: to some woman or harassing somewhere with all types of

1239
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 4: pictures and photos he was sending the US some wild shit.

1240
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, he got sent home.

1241
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: James Perce Junior will probably get cut the charge that

1242
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 4: the two serious charges that was going to probably land

1243
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 4: him in prison were dropped. So I don't know. I

1244
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: don't know how they'll do their calculus on that, but

1245
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 4: I think for their I think they have to cut

1246
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: them A because of the behavior. B because you're not

1247
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: going to be able to really justify this beyond just

1248
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: like we don't care. And I don't know if Arthur

1249
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: Blank has the stomach for we don't care.

1250
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm curious.

1251
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: I did want to add, By the way, the coach

1252
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: was Troy Lewis. He was the estas defensive line coach

1253
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: and he recently got let go after following reports of

1254
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: sexual assault, rape and physical battery from a December twenty

1255
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: twenty four incident with a staff member at the University

1256
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: of Michigan.

1257
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: He was because he was Sharon Moore's home.

1258
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: More also, and I think we discussed it. They dropped

1259
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: all of those charges, Yeah, because they found some holes in.

1260
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: The plutnsistency with the girl.

1261
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, some inconsistency, some some police dereliction of duties that

1262
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 4: they didn't do their part. I mean, that's the thing

1263
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: you can get away with a lot of crimes if

1264
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: all the things aren't in place, even if you did

1265
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: that ship, like, yeah, how horny can you be that

1266
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 4: you just lose all your fucking coof like you just said, oh,

1267
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: just fuck it. I mean with all the cameras and

1268
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: surveillant chats and technology that you're going to get away

1269
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 4: with any of this ship.

1270
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: Well, self controls at an all time low.

1271
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: At all time in society at large, self controls are

1272
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: all time low, and lust is probably on the top

1273
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 4: of the list of things that.

1274
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: People had less zero control over.

1275
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: They just they just their whole life radiates on do

1276
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 4: our busting up today or not?

1277
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: And that's a crazy way to live your life, right, Because.

1278
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 1: I just also think that there haven't been enough healthy conversations,

1279
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: not only around consent, but men are pushed to explore,

1280
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: not even exploring, just having sex, and women are pushed

1281
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: to protecting it and feeling shamed by it. And so

1282
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: I think when you have the upbringing of those two

1283
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 1: contrasting ways of viewing sex, as we get older, there's

1284
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: confusion and how to receive it, how to give it,

1285
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: what's old to you, what's not old to you, how

1286
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: you show up in the bedroom, how to communicate when

1287
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable, and so this is where we have now

1288
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: we have adults navigating off of not knowing what the

1289
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: fuck they're doing or feeling entitled to certain things. And

1290
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: then unfortunately, when you're a man with money access power,

1291
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: like we're seeing with these celebrities, you also don't really

1292
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: get criminalized.

1293
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: Do we blame rap music for this?

1294
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: I did not say that.

1295
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: I'm asking no, Like what inspires the behavior?

1296
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: To me?

1297
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: It's fucking bitch hole.

1298
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: But it's patriarchy because they say the same ship in

1299
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: rock music and ship like that, like I did it

1300
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: all for the nookie, Come on the nookie, come on

1301
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: so you.

1302
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: Could take that.

1303
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: Eat ch ass Is that a song?

1304
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: It is?

1305
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: You're a line somebody the red jalapenos.

1306
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, red chili peppers, that's it? Does not yell all

1307
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: eat your asshole.

1308
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 4: The AI version red hot hallopeno sounds like a euphemism

1309
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: for asshole.

1310
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: That's what I was like, what are we doing? It's

1311
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: the AI versions the AI version right now?

1312
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 4: But no, I'm just trying to think what contributes to

1313
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously ship starts.

1314
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 3: At the home, but I think a lot of the behaviors.

1315
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: Learnedous, you know, the ignorance that and why I hate

1316
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: that line of questioning is because it it makes it

1317
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: appear as these crimes, these assaults are only happening within

1318
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: our community and aren't a problem at large. And for me,

1319
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: we know, like these crackers out here doing some goofy

1320
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: weird shit too.

1321
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean shit, look at Brothlisberger that he had all

1322
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: the charges against him and nothing really happened.

1323
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I want to focused on our community

1324
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: because we got to take care of us, right, what

1325
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: how do we remedy this is because our women.

1326
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying all women.

1327
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 4: Are not being impacted by this, but people that we

1328
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: we shouldn't know women that got assaulted at all.

1329
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: This shouldn't happen. We know way too many. But to me,

1330
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: it because.

1331
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 4: Comes down to like your personal responsibility accountability, Like I'm

1332
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: not going to outsource blame for this to anywhere other

1333
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 4: than the people who do it, and they're rationale for

1334
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 4: doing it. To me, doesn't really matter, it's all it's

1335
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: all degenerously. So it's like but with power, with power

1336
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 4: and money, yeah, and being able to take advantage of

1337
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 4: these situations or just not even if then I even

1338
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: if it's not a money and power thing like sexual assault,

1339
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 4: touching a woman, grabbing a woman, doing whatever you want

1340
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 4: to do, I think that you're enable to do. Like,

1341
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 4: that's a problem with you, rapist, that's the problem with you.

1342
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 4: Pussy grab her, that's a problem with you.

1343
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: Like a dude that be filming women is like, what's

1344
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: wrong with you?

1345
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: Hear me out.

1346
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: This becomes a bit tricky because when we talk about

1347
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: holding our community accountable for things that we deem to

1348
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: be quote unquote wrong, right, we also have a Patrick

1349
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Beverly who his fifteen year old sister was in the

1350
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: home or in a bed alone with her eighteen year

1351
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: old boyfriend. Now, clearly we have conversations to about age

1352
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: gaps and things that are appropriate and not appropriate, and

1353
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: we talk about women at the age of fifteen not

1354
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: really being able old enough to consent to sex, and

1355
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: you know it's and so former NBA player Patrick Beverley

1356
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: was arrested on charge of assault for family violence and

1357
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: household and pending breathing. Basically, he grabbed his sister by

1358
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: her neck and picked her up off the ground. Now

1359
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: this was him probably instilling some sort of fear into

1360
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: her that what you're doing is wrong. And so I

1361
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: think that again that leads to the conversation of how

1362
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: do we even change in our community? When growing up

1363
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: it's belt to ask. Growing up, it's seeking revenge on Oh,

1364
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: if you come and fuck up my family, I'm gonna

1365
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: come and fuck up yours. Even when we get into

1366
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: street code, right, the conversation is not letting justice handle it,

1367
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: but that we gonna deal with it. We're gonna like

1368
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: we're our own vigilantes within our own community. A lot

1369
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: of times, and so when it comes to the conversations

1370
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: on how how do we go if we literally go

1371
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: all the way back to you got a whooping, getting

1372
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: a spanking, that's how we're taught to even administer any

1373
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: sort of consequence.

1374
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: They don't do about to ask no more.

1375
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: They absolutely do about to ask, Oh, there's a there's

1376
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: a choke, there's a punch, he whooped, his sister asked.

1377
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: But but again, if you are the older brother, let's

1378
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: be very clear, A lot of times there's this fatherly

1379
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: like expectation of how you yeah, and you might feel

1380
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: like we siblings and we fight, and how many times

1381
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: have we as siblings fought so then it's also like

1382
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: are we in that era where now siblings can't fight?

1383
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: La?

1384
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: But I think there's a fine line between YO, get

1385
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 4: somebody up and trying to you know, mediator situation when

1386
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: you see your little sister and an older boy the punching.

1387
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's another thing. The mom called Patrick to

1388
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: come over and handle the situation right.

1389
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 4: But when you do that, the intention behind that was

1390
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 4: probably from a you know, I can't do it.

1391
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 3: I need I need a male.

1392
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: I need a man. But that's what I'm talking about.

1393
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't know what he saw to make him

1394
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 4: do all of that. I can't put myself in the

1395
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 4: shoe because I wouldn't. I wouldn't put no hands on

1396
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: my sister like like it'll be some form of I'm here,

1397
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 4: we're gonna stop whatever's going on, and we're gonna find

1398
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: a solution.

1399
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: But not to that level.

1400
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: But here's my question growing up right if unfortunately, and

1401
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: this is another thing that probably is not instilled right

1402
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: within our community, the mom lets.

1403
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: The like a father.

1404
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: When there is a father figure on the home, we're

1405
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: taught to fear the dad. Wait till your daddy wait

1406
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: to your daddy get home. Oh, your daddy gonna handle you,

1407
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: or you don't want to make your dad upset. So

1408
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times, unfortunately, even in the upbringing, and

1409
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: that's when there's a father figure in the home, the

1410
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: father is the one who instills the punishment or puts belt,

1411
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: you know.

1412
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1413
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: But so when we're talking about these conversations on how

1414
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: we can really change that within our community, it has

1415
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: to be that there can't be fear instilled by men

1416
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: even from a very young age when and again that's

1417
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: when a father figure is in the home. Outside of that,

1418
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: when we're talking about older men, even in how they

1419
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: instill sexual deviance in little boys, it can't be to

1420
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: teach these boys to go out and chase tail at

1421
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve years old, and for a girl to

1422
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: be shamed about her sexual you know, desires or things

1423
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: like that, Like we are taught to be shamed for arousal,

1424
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: for wanting sex, for having sex. Oh, if you are

1425
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: a girl that ends up fast sucking any type of

1426
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: dick through school, you are a Jezebel and you're scorning.

1427
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: You have the scarlet letter on you forever. The boys y'all.

1428
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: Y'all are high fiving each other for having sexual experience.

1429
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: Those dynamics are in play here. So here's what I say. First,

1430
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't call whether there's clearly two

1431
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: different stories, right, Like Patrick Beverly is telling his side

1432
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 4: of the story. He said, he's saying he didn't do

1433
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 4: any of the things his sister is accusing him of.

1434
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: The sister is saying, this is what happened to me, right,

1435
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 4: I don't have none of us have all the facts

1436
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 4: about exactly what happened in that house. The court will

1437
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: have to figure that out. I don't know how they

1438
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 4: do that.

1439
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: Now, But did you what are your thoughts on the video?

1440
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 3: So that's what I was going to get to. My

1441
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: problem really is.

1442
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: Can I play a clip from it just in case?

1443
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 3: Because there's a couple of things we need to talk. Yeah.

1444
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: I love that you're bringing up the video and his

1445
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: explaining himself, because I will say to a lot of times,

1446
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: we don't get to hear both sides of the story,

1447
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, no one really wants to ever hear the

1448
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: man side of the story either.

1449
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother it is. So here is.

1450
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: The call around three o'clock in the morning, and Andrew

1451
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: have a five o'clock in the morning flight to LA.

1452
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna workout for some teams and I get interrupted

1453
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: with a call at three o'clock for mom, like, I

1454
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: need you to come over here fast.

1455
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: Like, now, what's going on? What happened into the house?

1456
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: Little Mom's from your mom?

1457
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 3: Like my pool sister next from When I say Pool,

1458
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 3: I mean arm com here, right, I'm like, what are

1459
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: you doing? Like, what are you doing? As a thirty

1460
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 3: seven year old brother and the fifteen year old sister.

1461
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: It's not little sisters, it's it's a.

1462
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 3: Little daughter vibe. So the young man, you know, and

1463
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 3: he was cool, right.

1464
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Now by the way, y'all, it is shot like

1465
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 2: a Real Housewives of Atlanta.

1466
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, a scene where he's in the car and they

1467
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: paying it on the side. Yeah, it's basically a documentary

1468
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 4: explanation of his situation. But yeah, your thoughts now, so

1469
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 4: so I started off to say it. Yeah, the facts,

1470
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 4: I guess are being disputed, and I don't have any

1471
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 4: insight on what the facts are as far as what

1472
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 4: happened between Patrick Beverley and his sister. But the there's

1473
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 4: layers of problems with the whole situation right to what

1474
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 4: you're saying about the father is supposed to you know,

1475
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 4: I guess instill this fear in the situation, right. I

1476
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 4: don't know why the mother felt like she had to

1477
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 4: put Patrick.

1478
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: Beverley even in this.

1479
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 4: If you live in the house with your daughter, your

1480
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 4: daughter is active. This is a recurrent theme. It is

1481
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 4: that we heard this public could because of the extremity

1482
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 4: of what happened there this It sounds like they've been

1483
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 4: dealing with this element.

1484
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Seven years old with a fifteen year old sister. It's

1485
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: not a sibling relationship.

1486
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 4: It's a daughter, yes, clearly it was.

1487
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: And the mom, he says it, she there were three

1488
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: am in the morning.

1489
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: Right like, you're you're the money because you're not.

1490
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: Even not even you're the one with the money. But

1491
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: she feels the figure. But that's the thing too.

1492
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's because he's got the money if he

1493
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 4: was just the breadwinner, so you listen to.

1494
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: The bread we're bringing money into this.

1495
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: But also if this woman currently does not have a

1496
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: even boyfriend or man, say that the father of this

1497
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: fifteen year old is not in the house. Unfortunately, what

1498
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: we see too, is these weird dynamics that happen.

1499
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: With moms and their son.

1500
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, my son is my king.

1501
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: My son is my king. My son is and so

1502
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 2: the baby daddy not here.

1503
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: You not a daddy, which is why he said, I

1504
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: didn't even I don't even have this brother sister relationship

1505
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 1: with my sister.

1506
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,480
Speaker 2: I have a daughter dad relationships.

1507
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 4: So the reason why the mother called him is because, yes,

1508
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 4: the red wind A part is a big factor, because

1509
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: everything that they are able to do is because he

1510
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 4: had on his success. So with dad saying, she's saying, well,

1511
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 4: this is your house, were in it. You ain't gonna

1512
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 4: disrespect the pipeline of the house, right, So you know what,

1513
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: I argue that we come over here.

1514
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: The mother's probably thinking that's the only way to whatever.

1515
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 2: That is back to what we have to start doing

1516
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 2: as a mother. Talk to your daughter who's fifteen years.

1517
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Old and navigate why this might not be the dynamic

1518
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: you want to have. Mind you, there's so many conversations

1519
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: that I also realized I didn't have with my mom

1520
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: about age gaps and these older men not really knowing

1521
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: how to treat you. But also at fifteen, how you're

1522
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: making these adult decisions that you really shouldn't be making.

1523
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: But that's a conversation that I think more mothers need

1524
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: to have with their daughters instead of now bringing the

1525
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: black male figure to come and steal that fear and

1526
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: to put bell to ass and to like, we got

1527
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: to also stop making our black men these fear mongering

1528
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: examples within the family unit.

1529
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: That is a huge part of the problem.

1530
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: There too, right, And so that's the first thing, is like,

1531
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 4: why does Pat need to be involved in this? Clearly

1532
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 4: like that's a family dynamic they've probably been dealing with

1533
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 4: for a while.

1534
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: So that's one part of it.

1535
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 4: The second part of it is with even with what

1536
01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: Patrick Beverly like the way it played out, right, you

1537
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: are coming over there because there's an issue with your

1538
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 4: sister and the sister is sneaking out going to see

1539
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 4: the boyfriend. Pat in one of the clips, talks about

1540
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 4: how much he's like, yo, I know you're fifteen, you love,

1541
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 4: you're in love. I see your I respect your love,

1542
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: I respect the fact that you love this boy, whatever

1543
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 4: the case is.

1544
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 3: But if when when you're.

1545
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 4: Coming over there, and if the problem is this boy

1546
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: is and how your sister snuck out to be with

1547
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: this boy, and she's fifteen and he's eighteen. Why are

1548
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 4: you hemming up the sister? Because he said in the

1549
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 4: clip the boy called the police.

1550
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: Why, I mean, but why are you hemming up a

1551
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 2: woman at all?

1552
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 4: Like, if anything, you would think the normal reaction would

1553
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 4: be one of these niggas is doing something to my sister.

1554
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go fuck that nigga up.

1555
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: You can't do that either, No, no, but that was respectful.

1556
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: Well and he said that, he said, I wasn't But.

1557
01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

1558
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 4: But isn't that part the problem If he's an eighteen

1559
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: year old boy with your fifteen year old sister, Yeah,

1560
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 4: your sister. You can say the sister is doing whatever

1561
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: she but like you can come out. There's no you

1562
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: addressed you, but you addressed that boy. He said in

1563
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: the video. I didn't want to mess up his life,

1564
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 4: so I made sure there was no charges filed and

1565
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 4: all this. I didn't want to mess up the boy's life. Well,

1566
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 4: why are you protected him? Could it be more?

1567
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 3: What? Could it be more to the story that we

1568
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: don't know?

1569
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 4: Of course, the problem is I mean they again, we're

1570
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 4: not gonna know all what happened inside.

1571
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean but the bigger, the bigger scope of the

1572
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: thing is like, I actually don't feel like I feel

1573
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: like unfortunately this only happened because of the trickle down effect,

1574
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: which is why when you said, what can we change different?

1575
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: That's what we have to change different. I do want

1576
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: to make sure we go on because we still have

1577
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: two topics to get to you.

1578
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got the other.

1579
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah again.

1580
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: I that's that's the final take on this one though,

1581
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: Like within the black community, we got to make changes

1582
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: about how the man we need up bringing and communicating

1583
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: with each other. Overall, Let's do jay Z and then

1584
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: will end with Coke Gate.

1585
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: Coke this nigga d the white Howard oh y. So this uh.

1586
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: A lot of you know a lot.

1587
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 4: Of stuff came out in the Epstein files, some of

1588
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: which is like accusations, things that are just not really important,

1589
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 4: things that are outing people for their you know, sexual crimes.

1590
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 4: But one of the things that was inside of these files,

1591
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 4: I know this guy Just Staley is related to Harvey Weinstein,

1592
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 4: I mean, Jeffrey Epstein. They were friends. Just Staley was

1593
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 4: the former CEO of the Barclays. He used to do

1594
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: investment banking and those type of things, And one of

1595
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 4: the things that was in the Epstein files was this

1596
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 4: email that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein that reads, you

1597
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 4: want to know why we're not South Polo. And it

1598
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 4: just to be clear, he's I think he's referencing South

1599
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 4: Polo from the standpoint of them being a revolutionary and

1600
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 4: them reacting and overthrowing the government and revolting, pro testing

1601
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 4: the whole thing.

1602
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: So, by the way, you're reading an email from just

1603
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: Stally to.

1604
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: Jeff he said, watch the watch the TV ads on

1605
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. It's all about hip blacks and hip

1606
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 4: cars with white women. The group that should be in

1607
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 4: the streets has been bought off period by jay Z.

1608
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: That's from just Stally. I need to point out a

1609
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 3: couple of things.

1610
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 4: This email was sent on February third, twenty fourteen, two

1611
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 4: years prior to.

1612
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: This net is when yeah, right, the Next came to Brooklyn.

1613
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 4: You know, jay Z was a big part of bringing

1614
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 4: into Brooklyn, getting against public acceptance of this move. People

1615
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 4: were very critical at the time that this was going

1616
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 4: to disenfranchise a lot of people, a lot of people

1617
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 4: who had lived in Brooklyn for a long time.

1618
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I opened the Applebee's across from Barclays, did you yep?

1619
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: I was.

1620
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 4: I was a part of that, right, so that the

1621
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: whole area is gentrified now.

1622
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 3: But the thing also that happened in twenty twelve is

1623
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 3: that Trayvon Martin was killed.

1624
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 4: And when Trayvon Martin was killed, it was a It

1625
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: wasn't a local store, it was a national store. People

1626
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: were angry, people were outside in the streets. So I

1627
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 4: want to be clear that even him saying this is

1628
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: historically inaccurate the idea that black people have been glamored

1629
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 4: and bought off by jay Z and they're so black

1630
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 4: people are so stuck on celebrity and fame and money

1631
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 4: that we can't possibly concentrate on the things that are

1632
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 4: going on around us. No, because niggas got in the

1633
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 4: street in twenty twelve when Trayvon Martin was killed. Also

1634
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 4: in this same year that this email was sent, Michael

1635
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 4: Brown was killed and people were back in the streets

1636
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 4: because Michael Brown got killed.

1637
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 3: We watched it on video and we said, this is

1638
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: fucked up. So this is a white.

1639
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: Man talking about some foolishness that he doesn't even know

1640
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 4: what he's talking.

1641
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 3: Nothing he's saying here is even remotely accurate now per usual.

1642
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: Right now.

1643
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 4: The separate issue from that is, and I had this

1644
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: conversation with a friend like a month ago, which is

1645
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: interesting that this came out now, is that jay Z

1646
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 4: is just in transparence. Jay Z is my favorite rapper ever.

1647
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 4: I think what jay Z has done for music and

1648
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 4: hip hop culture and all of that kind of shit

1649
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: is amazing. But people have had a lot of criticism

1650
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 4: for jay Z for years now for the way he

1651
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 4: operates in capitalism.

1652
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 3: And I think the culture at.

1653
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 4: Large that our relationship with capitalism has evolved over the

1654
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 4: time as we see more things deteriorate because people are greedy,

1655
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 4: because corporations want money, and they're willing to choose money

1656
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: over literally anything else, human lives or anything else. So

1657
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 4: the conversation around, I don't believe that jay Z is

1658
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 4: a distraction to the black community.

1659
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't even believe when people say that.

1660
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a cop out to just find

1661
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 4: some boogeyman to blame some things on. But are there

1662
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 4: things that jay Z could address and issues that people

1663
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 4: have with some of the things that he's done business wise? Sure,

1664
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 4: I think that's fair, But as far as being a puppet.

1665
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 4: That's where it gets a little bit weird, because are

1666
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: you mad at it?

1667
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Are you forward or against?

1668
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: Like?

1669
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: What what is your sense on this specifically?

1670
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I don't think he's a puppet.

1671
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 4: I think that jay Z is a capitalist and I

1672
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,480
Speaker 4: think that he operates in that system unabashedly.

1673
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 3: The question is that if jay Z operating in.

1674
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 4: Capitalism, is he being used or because he sells The

1675
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 4: story he sells to us is that I'm going to

1676
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 4: go into these business places and take advantage of these

1677
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 4: crackers who want to take advantage of me.

1678
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 3: And he has to some degree he has.

1679
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: It's not going to need to every degree.

1680
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: But we've seen him operate successfully in a liquor business

1681
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: and buy and sell it like he's owned it and

1682
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: sold it.

1683
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: We've seen the changes he's made for the Super Bowl

1684
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: in the league that didn't even want their players to kneel,

1685
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: We've seen him.

1686
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: I mean, but the question is are those things just

1687
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 4: because those things have happened, does that also mean that

1688
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 4: they couldn't.

1689
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: Still be using him to do things that aren't in

1690
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 3: our face that we're not accounting.

1691
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: Rights me off like they never gonna be happy.

1692
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 4: And you know what, I don't like to and and

1693
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: we could expand on this later on, because I'm pretty

1694
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: sure it probably right now, the whole whole, But even

1695
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 4: in this conversation about you know, and I hate seeing

1696
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 4: it because it's getting quite annoying now. And it's some

1697
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 4: folks out here that's always commenting on Charlemagne's business dealing

1698
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: and always this and that, and always got some negatives

1699
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 4: say about it. Look, business deals are done in the

1700
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 4: favor of the person doing business.

1701
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 3: How you critique it as it relates to you don't matter.

1702
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,879
Speaker 4: You negotiate your whatever it is, you want, your agenda,

1703
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 4: whatever it is. That only whether you would do it,

1704
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 4: and what looks like if you that don't matter that

1705
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 4: you don't the position, the position you're in to do

1706
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 4: that when it's time you have your gender. But why

1707
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 4: is it always a conversation about, oh, oh, he must

1708
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 4: have did something, got in the booty hole to get

1709
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 4: the two hundred men?

1710
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Why I want.

1711
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: To just there's a there's a sentence from the caption

1712
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: of all of all of these things that were pulled.

1713
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: It's imperative to understand how black celebrities are weaponized against

1714
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: us due to its deceptive nature but effective impact. The

1715
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 1: ruling class means us harm and will outsource that mission

1716
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 1: to anyone willing to sell themselves out for the right price.

1717
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: Is the jig finally up? For Jigaman?

1718
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: And my problem is we love and.

1719
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: Celebrate the fact that we are able to go to university,

1720
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: obtain degrees, climb the corporate ladder, have c suite positions.

1721
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: Why do we get to a point where when someone

1722
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: finally makes it into certain rooms and someone finally makes

1723
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money, now we gotta view them

1724
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: as a sellout?

1725
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Is there not?

1726
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 3: Is it coco bread every day? Like Nick?

1727
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: It's literally like our ancestors wildest dreams to be able

1728
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: to sit in some of these rooms. So the idea

1729
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: that now they're sellouts or not doing enough for like,

1730
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 1: I just hate that this is a constant conversation around

1731
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 1: around black people who read a certain level of success

1732
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: or get into certain rooms with white people that yeah,

1733
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: maybe ate for us, but there are conversations changing the narrative,

1734
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Like we literally could go and look at all the

1735
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowls from the eighties and nineties and see the

1736
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: exact change of what's been happening in the celebrities that

1737
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: are now performing now. But it's like, you're damned if

1738
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: you do, damned if you don't.

1739
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: But I think there's room for both things.

1740
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 4: I don't think that someone achieving a thing for being

1741
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 4: in a room or having a certain success means.

1742
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 3: That there was how did you get? Like? Was there

1743
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 3: harm done along the way to get to that point?

1744
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: I hate that conversation too.

1745
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter though, because if that's what happened,

1746
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 4: that's what happened.

1747
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 3: The people whose.

1748
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 4: Houses in Brooklyn, who wanted to stay there, who didn't

1749
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 4: give a fuck about no Barclay Center, They wanted to

1750
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 4: keep their homes, they wanted to stay there where they've

1751
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: been for whatever amount of years. Now, plot twists that

1752
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 4: shit was gonna happen. Whether jay Z has, whether he

1753
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 4: had whether.

1754
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's one thing. But did jay Z have

1755
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 3: to participate in it?

1756
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: Bro he owned zero.

1757
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: Of the net They want to talk about like butor no,

1758
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it worse. That allowed him to be

1759
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: a part of the NBA, which later then he also

1760
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: sold that stake so that he could start Sports Rock

1761
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Nation Sports. But also that's having that partnership or that

1762
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: relationship or that bit of ownership probably led him to

1763
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: be able to We saw him sit with Bloomberg in

1764
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 1: the Russian when he sold it, but that's probably what

1765
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: led to him later being able.

1766
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: To make the changes that he's making the NFL.

1767
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: To me, again, I agree, if it was gonna happen

1768
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: whether I'm here or not, why not find a way

1769
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: to where I can get into the room and make

1770
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: a difference.

1771
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 4: Or maybe I mean we gotuse guess what Those rooms

1772
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 4: are controlled by them people. We don't have zero ownership

1773
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 4: or anything to be in our own rooms. But I

1774
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 4: don't think it's a I don't think it's necessarily a

1775
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 4: problem wanted to be in the room, but it's the

1776
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 4: idea that you can't have. Just because there he's doing

1777
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 4: a benefit thing doesn't mean that he can't be critiqued

1778
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 4: for things that went along along the way. Bill Cosby

1779
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 4: put a lot of people in school. He played a

1780
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: lot of people's tuition too. Does that mean that Bill

1781
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 4: Cosby can't re critique for the ship that he's.

1782
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 3: Doing behind the scenes that he's been accused of.

1783
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: But I think that even with this, but even this

1784
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: it's all imaginary of what jay Z is doing wrong

1785
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: or what he knew, or.

1786
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 4: For the people who did not everybody was with the

1787
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 4: Barclay Center. Some people did not want in Brooklyn.

1788
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Some people.

1789
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 4: Before that was short. Well, the Illuminati is all bullshit.

1790
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about illuminati. I'm not talking about like, oh,

1791
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 4: you did some ritual to become rich, that's not what

1792
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 4: you know.

1793
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: You know what else? Right now, look a lot like

1794
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Barclay over there the same Go look at Marcy and

1795
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing over there in Brooklyn, and they're gentrifying

1796
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: New York. Look So to even place any bit of

1797
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: blame or critique on Jay Z for being a part

1798
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: of what is literally happening to by.

1799
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 2: The way, talking about New York the beltline, what the.

1800
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 1: Of what's happening here in one of the blackest cities

1801
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: in America. It's doing nothing but pushing pushing our community.

1802
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 2: Out further into the outskirts.

1803
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Like they're now being pushed to some out and they're

1804
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: now being pushed to build. They're now being pushed to

1805
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Gweney County. What what the old fourth Ward and the

1806
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: West End and even Nowtown look like.

1807
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 4: Now they're doing four it looks like Silicon Valley, and

1808
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 4: you know, and you know who's participating in that extra

1809
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 4: to make sure that that thing happens. The black mayors

1810
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 4: that have been running this city. Yeah, I mean I'm

1811
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 4: not The black mayors who've been running this city for

1812
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 4: fifty sixty years have all played a part in that

1813
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 4: expansive growth. Yeah we get the FIFA, we get the

1814
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 4: World Cup, Yeah, we get the Super Bowl. Yeah, we

1815
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 4: get these big events, we get this business that's good

1816
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 4: for the city. I'm not saying that there aren't benefits

1817
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 4: to that, but to act as if those people who

1818
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 4: are being pushed out don't give a fuck about the

1819
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 4: World Cup, they give a fuck about the house that

1820
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,799
Speaker 4: they lost because of the imminent domain.

1821
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: Okay, but to me, it's one of those where, again,

1822
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: with all the things going on in this world, one

1823
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: of the things that I'd be like, you damn if

1824
01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: you do.

1825
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: Damned you don't. I don't feel like this is something

1826
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: to spend energy.

1827
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 4: Is it changed clothes or is it dead presidents? But

1828
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about. He needs one of those too,

1829
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 4: Like what j Z change change clothes?

1830
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Change Look, he told you that.

1831
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 4: Listen, guys, to be in these rooms, you gotta take

1832
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: off your your NFL jerseys, your baseball football jerseys and

1833
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 4: put on some and put on some tie to play

1834
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 4: the part code twitch or well I was gonna I

1835
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 4: would say less their president is more where I'm from.

1836
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: M like like, like, are you are you from Brooklyn? Right?

1837
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 3: You're from the streets of Brooklyn? Right? You grew up

1838
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: in the hood.

1839
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 4: Right, you grew up around the people who the people

1840
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 4: who are your neighbors, the people who you kicked it with,

1841
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 4: the people who.

1842
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: Are around you your community.

1843
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 4: Those are the people who moved out of the area

1844
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn because of Barclay Center.

1845
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 3: King are you are you? Are you? Are you of that?

1846
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Or are you of uh uh? Twitter? CEOs and Michael Rubins?

1847
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 4: What what are what are you of?

1848
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 3: Question? You see, that's a great That's a question. That's

1849
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 3: a great question. I think that we got to ask question.

1850
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 4: I would record, I would ask, I would ask, I

1851
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 4: would ask ourselves that question because I'm from the projects.

1852
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, I want to see I want to be

1853
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 4: I want to get some money with these guys, because

1854
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: got the money.

1855
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to compromise. I'm gonna bring I'm

1856
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 3: gonna bring my ship to it.

1857
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: But you with me that you fuck with me, But

1858
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 4: we don't have to oppress anybody. But that's the That

1859
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 4: is the fake dream that they're talking about right here,

1860
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 4: That right there is the fake dream. Because the question is,

1861
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 4: if you're operating under capitalism, is there any scenario under

1862
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: capitalism where someone is not harm compassionate whole point?

1863
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that bullshit or not?

1864
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: Because I think that's bulls compassion Yeah, I think that's so.

1865
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Do we have to know?

1866
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: Want to make money, We want to be on pay.

1867
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 2: I want to be as rich as possible. List how

1868
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: did you get there? You probably harmed someone a long way.

1869
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 2: Suck my dick. I'm living like this. It is hard.

1870
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't know all the right way to do everything.

1871
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: Take what you get then, I mean tatigue.

1872
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 4: I think in our scenario, the question would be how

1873
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 4: how you can't have it both ways? How much is

1874
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 4: designed to harm people? That's super clear how capitalism is

1875
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: designed to you? Watching capitalism is designed to harm you.

1876
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 4: We all have to operate under it. We don't have

1877
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 4: no choice. We live here in America. That's what the system.

1878
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 2: Twitched my camera.

1879
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 3: But it is designed But the harmed people.

1880
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 4: The question point in our scenario is how many hard

1881
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 4: over usage of chat.

1882
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 3: Poison water for information? Is it worth it? I mean,

1883
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: is it worth so we're complicit, could be using that's

1884
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: don't let me know it.

1885
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, but.

1886
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 4: No, listen, listen uh me? He shot the big Homi

1887
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 4: Johnathan Mana. He texted me and say, Yo, chatty b T,

1888
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 4: don't a. I don't like you king, And I was like,

1889
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 4: I don't like that last one. I think you're looking

1890
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 4: like that.

1891
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: I got last topic. Last topic.

1892
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 4: We are well, but they make me look good though.

1893
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 4: Of course I think she got a little light in her.

1894
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 4: She got at you know, the prompts is like probably

1895
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 4: like you know, I think chatchy BT is on the spectrum.

1896
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy.

1897
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm about to get both of you all the little

1898
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: taste of collars and they put them.

1899
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 4: That's why I put on that both time both ip

1900
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 4: probably got AI and it shocked me and choke me

1901
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 4: while I'm talking about jay Z.

1902
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, last topic, Let's see if you care.

1903
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 4: I do have a clip to play text message hold.

1904
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard and Amy Lucia Happened has literally been on.

1905
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 2: The internet all week.

1906
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 1: Amy got in the car, claiming that Dwight Howard's behavior

1907
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: led to CPS coming to pick up her step child.

1908
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: Of course, Roy read you had something to say Dwight

1909
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: about Dwight Howard came into it. Their shared son also

1910
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: came on the internet. Amy sat in a in a

1911
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: car crying with a back of coke, saying that this

1912
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 1: is the reason, while also rubbing her face taking the coke.

1913
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: It was just a lot going on right now. There's

1914
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: a few topics of this. I guess I'll ask y'all's thoughts.

1915
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Did y'all care about this? Are y'all like here for

1916
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: family disputes being on the internet.

1917
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 3: I don't care, per se.

1918
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, if Dwhite Howard is doing what he's

1919
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: being accused of doing, then I want that woman to

1920
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 4: get someone.

1921
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: What is he being accused of doing? Taking coke?

1922
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 4: Well, she's saying that he is like locking her out

1923
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 4: of the home. They're marriage that she's locked him out

1924
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 4: of the house numerous signs. She had to break in

1925
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 4: the back gate, and she had to walk through the

1926
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 4: floorst to break in the back gate because when he

1927
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 4: gets mad at her, he changes the cold and she

1928
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 4: can't get to the security. Yeah, if you're a billionaire

1929
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 4: or you're a brokie bro the behavior, it's the same ship.

1930
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Niggas will still default to the same.

1931
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Leap in my car when my husband gets mad because

1932
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: he's a multi millionaire and he's an NBA star. By

1933
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: the way, the no one one calls lead to she

1934
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'm with Lakers star.

1935
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 2: It was crazy.

1936
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: It was like, girl, you've fending out over your nigga, Like,

1937
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: this is weird. I did, however, want to take a

1938
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: different approach to this conversation. Clearly, the bag of coke

1939
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: was crazy. Clearly them divorcing, I don't care.

1940
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 4: She put on some of the coke in her hand,

1941
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 4: talked about it, and then put it back in the

1942
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 4: bag to make sure that it wasn't everybody.

1943
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: No one's gonna find out. Look, where's that at right now? Nah,

1944
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 3: you just got a whole key in there.

1945
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: All right, Let's listen to this clip. By the way,

1946
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: this is a clip from Claudia Jordan. She was on

1947
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 1: a Fox soul show called Side Dish, and I was

1948
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I want to know y'all's thoughts on what she had

1949
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 1: to say about everything happening.

1950
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 6: He should have never been married to a woman first

1951
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 6: of all, while you waste that woman's time.

1952
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: That's number one.

1953
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 6: No, that's not a legend.

1954
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 2: He everybody knows. Okay, it's not a legend. People. There's

1955
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: lots of evidence out there about Dwight. How ll y'all

1956
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 2: know what it is. I mean, look, he got the mouth. Okay,

1957
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: his mouth. Tell everyone to know about he got off.

1958
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 5: He got a mouth.

1959
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 3: Pretty much.

1960
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 6: Now, people say that Royce is petty and she should

1961
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 6: have waited to know the hell she should not if

1962
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 6: you have known the story about their relationship. And she

1963
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 6: crashed out a few months ago, a year ago, and

1964
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 6: gave up all the tea. She'd been quiet for so

1965
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 6: many years about the things this man has been doing

1966
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 6: to this woman behind her back, allegedly Okay that that

1967
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 6: Royce put laid out all the receipts, Okay, stopping her

1968
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 6: from getting employment.

1969
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 2: Just keep on filing.

1970
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 6: Motion at the motion, at the motion until she's bankrupt,

1971
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 6: getting her off basketball wives like just putting a gag

1972
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 6: on her, on her. He has been interfering this woman's

1973
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 6: life for a long time.

1974
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: So imagine you've been trying to.

1975
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 6: Tell the world like your story, you get shut up,

1976
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 6: shut down, and Amy luci Anam comes into the playout

1977
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 6: and then marries this guy and gets with them and

1978
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 6: then globes and is laughing at Royce like it was you.

1979
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: You're jealous of my position.

1980
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 6: Ain't nobody jealous of anybody that's with Dwight Howard except

1981
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 6: maybe some dudes.

1982
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 2: Okay, No one is jealous about that.

1983
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 6: Nobody is jealous.

1984
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 2: Maybe miss Kitty is jealous.

1985
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 6: And if you don't know whom's kitty is, look up

1986
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 6: miss Kitty.

1987
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 2: M for me. Okay.

1988
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: So I just want to say this first and foremost,

1989
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: it is very tasteless for me and for anyone to

1990
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: speak about whether or not a man should be married

1991
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: to a woman based on their sexual preference or things

1992
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: that took place in their past.

1993
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 2: So she went in and on about Royce.

1994
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Maybe her and Royce have a friendship, But for me,

1995
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: there's a huge problem to me with leading with the

1996
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: fact that Dwight should not have been married to a

1997
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: woman because of the thing that we are privy or

1998
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: whatever the.

1999
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 2: Case with him and men.

2000
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: We have to if we want to move forward with

2001
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: these conversations and have more healthy relationships and have less

2002
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: dl men and get to a place where we can

2003
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: have conversations around consent and kinks and desires and make

2004
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: this healthy.

2005
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 2: For everyone sex.

2006
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: You can't say here and tell a man who may

2007
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: or may not be bisexual, because we all also know

2008
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: that people don't want to have labels attached to them

2009
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: that they don't have as their own. Tell them that

2010
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be married to who they want to be married.

2011
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 4: To, especially because they didn't have shit to do with

2012
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 4: the topic, nothing to do with a reason to shit

2013
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:49,520
Speaker 4: on that man and talk some LGBT, some anti LGBTs.

2014
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Some anti male bisexual hate, and ignorance. To me, it's

2015
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 1: one of the most ignorant takes. Again in twenty twenty six,

2016
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, men are not able.

2017
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 2: To be to be an LGBTQIA and I don't.

2018
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Understand why we know that gay is gay, lesbian is lesbian,

2019
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: but by can identify both genders, and I still do

2020
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: not understand by in twenty twenty six, men, specifically black

2021
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: men cannot hold the bisexual title if in fact they

2022
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: like men and women, let them.

2023
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 2: I also know so.

2024
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: Many men that like trans women and identify as straight.

2025
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: So when we get into these labels of straight or

2026
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 1: gay or hetero or homo and all these things. There's

2027
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: still shame in identifying with labels because people don't want

2028
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: to be labeled. They don't want to be put in boxes,

2029
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: they don't want to be put in categories. They don't

2030
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: want to be put into these things because they just

2031
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: want to be themselves, and maybe they are dealing with

2032
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: be questioning or shame around them. Let's be very clear,

2033
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Dwight came into this league as a Christian boy, whit

2034
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: comes from the Christian roots, went to a Christian high school.

2035
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 1: So whatever his sexuality is right now, there's probably a

2036
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: lot of shame, a lot of questioning, a lot of things.

2037
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: He's probably and unlearning himself, so to see here and

2038
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: this be a thing.

2039
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 2: Also, baby, I'm gonna say it, y'all.

2040
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Gotta stop acting like women don't know what some of

2041
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: the men is into. The problem is a lot of

2042
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: these women won't admit that they know that their men

2043
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: like to be pegged or that their men like to

2044
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: sec dick. On the side of this, there's a lot

2045
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: of women that actually allow it but don't admit that.

2046
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: I notice what my man is into, but I love him. Also,

2047
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Amy Luciana, Luciana whatever married Dwight.

2048
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 2: After all the gay allegations.

2049
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: You not gonna tell me this girl didn't know nothing

2050
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 1: about Dwight or what Dwight may have wanted in or

2051
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 1: around his mouth or boot all.

2052
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: We don't know.

2053
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 3: You know.

2054
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 1: My thing is Amy is not someone who is completely

2055
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: oblivious to what the sexuality of horror of her husband is.

2056
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: So even for her to say that, but Royce got

2057
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: the receipts.

2058
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 2: Like first saw. Roy's been coming for Dwight since day one.

2059
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't.

2060
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 4: I don't think Dwight has because I'm not just talking

2061
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 4: about his sexuality right now. I'm just talking about his

2062
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 4: relationship with Royce and how fucked up it seems.

2063
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: It's always.

2064
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that he for me anyway.

2065
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 4: I don't think he gets the benefit of the doubt

2066
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 4: of how petty or whatever type of shit he might

2067
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 4: be doing to this lady in their private home like that.

2068
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 3: None of that would surprise me.

2069
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 4: But like, yeah, to your point about him sexuality, Like ay,

2070
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 4: it kind of comes back to what we were talking

2071
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 4: about with the Hawks game. Is just that the way

2072
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 4: people view sex is it's fucked their brain up. But

2073
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is outside of the religious

2074
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 4: part of it. I don't know why people have struggle

2075
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: with the idea of sex or sexuality, whatever it is,

2076
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 4: because ultimately it doesn't fucking matter.

2077
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Mind you, Amy was talking about coke cps came and

2078
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 1: took the children, and yet on this take, we're still

2079
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: leaning into whether or not fucking Dwight sucks dick or not.

2080
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: Who fucking cares? And why does that keep being a conversation?

2081
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: Mind you, Bisexual men, gay men can be good fathers,

2082
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: good partners. Let's stop acting like Dwight is now so

2083
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,799
Speaker 1: stained and a man that no woman should ever take serious?

2084
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: Like is he a liar?

2085
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 3: Probably? Probably? But why do we.

2086
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: Keep giving him this scarlet letter like he is the

2087
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: most disgusting creature in the world because there's allegations of

2088
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: him being with men.

2089
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 2: It's not him, it's like the homophobia of it.

2090
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 3: But it's not him. It's the construct, right, you mentioned

2091
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 3: it earlier.

2092
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 4: It's the societal construct of how they view based on religion. Yeah,

2093
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 4: religion says that ship is a no. And so you

2094
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 4: mentioned that he grew up in a Christian ysehold, where's

2095
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 4: a no. But even within the construct, the tabooism that

2096
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 4: happens behind closed doors. Taoism says, how you say that

2097
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 4: Ireland Irish?

2098
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: That's the word.

2099
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 4: Listen, y'all don't want to put y'all y'all want to

2100
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 4: remove the l out of salmon.

2101
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, tabooism. We're gonna let you go ahead.

2102
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 3: Is there right? No, we're gonna make it. Listen. They

2103
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 3: got the aa V.

2104
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 4: Whatever that ship is, right, but looks tabooism, right. It's

2105
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 4: just like we don't know what his experiences was or

2106
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 4: if any where he encountered these scenarios as a young

2107
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 4: in right, which he developed and liked or whatever, So

2108
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 4: we don't know.

2109
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 3: It's just the construct. We got to stop. The construct

2110
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 3: is the construct?

2111
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 4: The look they're trying to change, change laws and state

2112
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 4: the state that's anti l g B t Q, anti

2113
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 4: interracial marriage, anti whatever they the construct says, that's.

2114
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 1: That's my problem is that we're going to have a

2115
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: conversation about this, this divorce as a whole and what

2116
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: was unhealthy about it?

2117
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 2: What lets CPS to come and get the child? Still

2118
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 2: don't know that?

2119
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: And then this bag of now there's a drug situation here,

2120
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: hold on, like the U has.

2121
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 2: CPS taking taking a kid out the home. We have

2122
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 2: a bag of coke.

2123
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 3: That bitch.

2124
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you still out walking free because this intend

2125
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 2: to distribute.

2126
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 3: That's a lot of you know what I mean. We

2127
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 3: don't want to keep going back to the plug. He

2128
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 3: just wanted the extra suprise to get it.

2129
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: But then the conversation back to his fucking sexuality.

2130
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 3: How many podcasts.

2131
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 2: So you're demonized more for being a black man that

2132
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: might like men, more than being a criminal, more than

2133
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: using drugs, more than being an abuser, more than being

2134
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 2: a cheater.

2135
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Heaven forbid you like Dick, you are worse than all

2136
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: those people in terms of a relationship. And I don't

2137
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: understand why we are criminalizing black men for this sexual.

2138
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 3: Love, moral man, evolving him to moral mandy. I love it.

2139
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Now, We'll let a man be a cheater. Look at you.

2140
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 2: You want Anthony.

2141
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Edwards to hold on. I didn't have the information. I

2142
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 3: didn't do other city. I didn't have that information. You

2143
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 3: put me on games. I didn't know.

2144
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: There's still a level of yeah, doctor Dre's a billionaire.

2145
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,639
Speaker 1: Yay fun that he hit women like even with this,

2146
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: there is a child that was moved from a household.

2147
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: There is a woman that is a legend. She's being

2148
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 2: locked out.

2149
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: That nigga sat front rode with the goddamn Lakers game, smiling,

2150
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: waving to everybody, and then filed for divorce the next morning.

2151
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 2: We still don't know why that child was removed basically

2152
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: out of the home.

2153
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: We know that this relationship is unhealthy because Amy filed

2154
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: six months ago for divorce, and yet the conversation of

2155
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: the goddamn Internet is dwight sexual.

2156
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: Well, there's a collision of two things happening.

2157
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 4: We as a society from the inception of people, we

2158
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 4: have all been running around practicing like unprotected patriarchy, right,

2159
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 4: So like there's that part of it, right, yep. Then

2160
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 4: there is the part of it that is supposed to

2161
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 4: be is like the sex shaming of the whole thing.

2162
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 4: So it's like, well, what's the what's the worst thing

2163
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 4: you can do to a man who's supposed to be

2164
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 4: a big alpha male Like amber Rose did the same

2165
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 4: thing to Kanye when she was mad at him, and

2166
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 4: she's like, oh, well, that's why you like fingers in

2167
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 4: your booty hole, nigga, And it's like all right, like

2168
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to find you're using patriarchy to say, the

2169
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 4: man is supposed to be this the.

2170
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 3: Nothing feminine, nothing like the strongest big dug.

2171
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, masculine, and take a finger in the bootle hole.

2172
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 4: You do whatever you want to. Whatever a man and

2173
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 4: a woman do is a whin a man and a

2174
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 4: woman do. Whatever a man and a man does is

2175
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 4: what a man and a man does, and all of

2176
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 4: that shit like that's fine, but you're trying to take

2177
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 4: these two things and use them as weapons against each other.

2178
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 4: And it's like for what or what for what? Just

2179
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 4: to get off points, like what does that have to.

2180
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 3: Do with anything?

2181
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 4: Everything changed October twenty eighteen for Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 3: That was the beginning of the NBA season. When he's

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Speaker 3: at the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he was out for the season opener, Okay, And

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Speaker 4: when they put on an injury report why he was

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Speaker 4: out and you know that's public.

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Speaker 3: Everything started there, bro and the report was a tailbone injury.

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Speaker 3: It says Dwight, mister star of the NBA season.

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Speaker 4: Do the legitimate albeit and usually describe gluteal injury known

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Speaker 4: as performance muscle injury, the soreness in the buttocks which

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Speaker 4: caused the significance records the significant pain and discomfort. So

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Speaker 4: when you put that on the internet, right, what happens

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Speaker 4: when you put that on the internet everybody? And that's

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Speaker 4: when the start. That is the origin story of how

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Speaker 4: we get here. Mind your business. If he liked what

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Speaker 4: he likes, hats off, bro, talk about that and we

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Speaker 4: shouldn't be we should not he like, we like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's that is. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't, but that's sexuality whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is is separate from are you a good father?

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Speaker 2: Being a good father? Are you abusing children? Are you like?

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Speaker 2: Come the fuck on.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna have these conversations, I need people to

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Speaker 1: be a lot less ignorant and attack the matter and

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Speaker 1: not be so homophobic in there in their takes, especially

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Speaker 1: especially like Claudia, your friend with with gays. You work

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Speaker 1: with Carlos king to me to lean into that is like,

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Speaker 1: what do we come on?

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Speaker 3: Girl?

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Speaker 1: But that's for Dustin, you work with Carlos, Like to me,

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't be like like criminalizing Dwight for whatever his

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Speaker 1: sexuality may be while he's getting a divorce a divorce

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Speaker 1: in his heterosexual relationship with a woman.

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Speaker 4: If she's triads with Royce, and like that is her

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Speaker 4: motivating thing to be anti Dwight because she's friends with

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Speaker 4: Royce and she thinks that Dwight did her dirty. If

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Speaker 4: you think that that, I'm sticking up for my homegirl.

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Speaker 2: Let's not say that you should have been married to

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Speaker 2: a woman, you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's a petty way to start the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was This was a lot. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna shave my head after this. You got to

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Speaker 1: join the Patreon.

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Speaker 2: To see it.

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Speaker 1: We got showing up as my barber. We're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna document it all.

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Speaker 2: Basically, y'all.

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Speaker 3: I have been blocking, can get a mullet. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: put a mullet on it.

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Speaker 2: You gotta leave me a little bit. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to go bald.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that was my question. I was like, when

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Speaker 3: you stay shaved, shave, shave.

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Speaker 4: And shave, let me see all like like like all

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Speaker 4: like down to the skin.

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Speaker 2: No, not down to this, not down to the skin. Hey,

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Speaker 2: hey yo me word records the waves. All right, guys.

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