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Speaker 1: All right, welcome once again, folks to Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: Live here on Giants dot Com. Again. I am Russ

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Speaker 1: Salzburg today joined by my buddy Lance Meadow, and we

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Speaker 1: throughout the two thousand and eighteen season. And it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. You know, it was a heck of

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Speaker 1: a good first half pretty much for twenty eight minutes,

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Speaker 1: I should say twenty nine minutes and about fifty seconds

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. But you know, Lance, the way I

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Speaker 1: look at it, and you know this, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about it, folks, a bit off the air. I'm anxious

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Speaker 1: to hear what you guys have to say, but we

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Speaker 1: were talking about it the minute that ball was intercepted

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Speaker 1: at the end of the second half. Good pass, bad pass,

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Speaker 1: whatever you think you knew right away the way the

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Speaker 1: media and and folks, I get it. No excuse for

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Speaker 1: Eli with the past. You can talk about play calling,

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Speaker 1: you can talk about coach, you can talk about everybody,

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Speaker 1: but Eli is not allowed to make a mistake. You

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Speaker 1: knew what the narrative was going to be the minute

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Speaker 1: that bowl was intercepted. After two games of arrest bit

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Speaker 1: if you will, it was back to the same old thing.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. When are we gonna make the change it?

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Speaker 1: It's becoming silly quite frankly. Well, when a team loses

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Speaker 1: a game, I think it's easy to then play the

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Speaker 1: point to finger at a player game and also utilize

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Speaker 1: the scapegoat argument to determine who's it fault. But I

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Speaker 1: agree with you Russ. I think if you look back

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Speaker 1: at that game, huge turning point you're at the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, and it's not so much the decision making,

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Speaker 1: whether it was Pat Shermer's play calling, whatever it be.

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Speaker 1: It was a missed opportunity to put points on the board.

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Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. And if you lose

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Speaker 1: a game by three points U two, you have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to kick would have been a forty four yard

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Speaker 1: field goal for Rodrick Rossaus, who had a very good game.

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Speaker 1: Considering he kicked the field goal of fifty plus yards,

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, you like your chances. Rosas comes through,

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Speaker 1: kicks the field goal and maybe this game goes to overtime.

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Speaker 1: Who knows how the second had is gonna play out

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Speaker 1: onto those circumstances. But the way you have to look

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Speaker 1: at that opportunity is a missed opportunity to put points

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Speaker 1: on the board, aside from whose bad decision it was, coaching,

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Speaker 1: play calling, quarterback, and so forth. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 1: You know you're always gonna look back at missed opportunities.

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Speaker 1: You're always going to do that. But the Giants went

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Speaker 1: into halftime down, excuse me, up nineteen eleven. They weren't

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Speaker 1: down nineteen eleven. They were up nineteen eleven. And you

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Speaker 1: know the reason I mentioned this about you knew what

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Speaker 1: the story line was going to be, the narrative once

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Speaker 1: they made you know, Eli was picked off there. I

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Speaker 1: did not read or hear any place. All the talk

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Speaker 1: was about the play calling, about Eli, uh O'Dell questioning Sherman,

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Speaker 1: which what was not really true. Odell was asked about

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Speaker 1: the play calling and he said, well, that's the coach's decision,

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Speaker 1: you know, Yes, the coach on that. So right away

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Speaker 1: that was uh, automatically it was like O'Dell or than Sterling.

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Speaker 1: Shepard was questioning the coach. There was no talk to me,

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Speaker 1: and I mentioned this to you when we met today.

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Speaker 1: There was no talk whatsoever about the poor tackling by

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Speaker 1: the Giant defenders. It was abysmal. It was just awful.

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Speaker 1: There was no talk about that. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like in fairness, I don't know how that was swept

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Speaker 1: agenda to let's get Eli or let's get this. Because

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Speaker 1: and I brought this up to you, I couldn't remember

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Speaker 1: the place it happened at the end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: they had a sixteen yard game a pass to got It.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something between the past to got It,

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Speaker 1: then there was a one yard Josh Josh Adam one

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Speaker 1: and then it was a fifteen yard touchdown to Earth.

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Speaker 1: I think there must have been six or seven broken

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Speaker 1: sure you tackle the guy, Make make them excuse me,

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Speaker 1: make them settle for a field goal. That to me,

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Speaker 1: I was screaming watching that. Well, there were defensive breakdowns

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Speaker 1: point well taken in rush. Let me correct myself for

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Speaker 1: one second. One exception, Land and Collins played his ass off.

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Speaker 1: Land and Collins was tackling, and like the team tackles

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Speaker 1: very poor, shoddy tackling. And I'll tell you what, that

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Speaker 1: I've seen for the last two days. Well, when you

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Speaker 1: look at why the Giants lost his game, clearly it

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Speaker 1: was a tale of two halves. For the offense, it

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Speaker 1: goes without saying they ran twenty two plays in the

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Speaker 1: second half of US I love that everybody goes about

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Speaker 1: the play calling. There were barely any opportunities. The offense

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Speaker 1: a five play drive, it was stalled as a result

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Speaker 1: of penalties. The four possessions that they had in the

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Speaker 1: second half, I'm eliminating the last one, Russ because the

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Speaker 1: last one you're in desperation mode. You're trying to get

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Speaker 1: in field goal range to tie the game. So on

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Speaker 1: the four previous possessions, they had at least one negative play.

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Speaker 1: On all four of the possessions, they were going backwards

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Speaker 1: more so than they were going forwards. You had a

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Speaker 1: drive where Eli was sacked. You had to drive where

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Speaker 1: you had two penalties against the offensive line, one of

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Speaker 1: which was declined, but then you had a negative run

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Speaker 1: by Wayne Gallman. Then you also had another drive with

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Speaker 1: an Eli Manning sack, and then you had a delay

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Speaker 1: of game penalty. So you had either procedural issues, offensive

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Speaker 1: on all four of those possessions. And they faced third

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Speaker 1: want to talk about why don't the Giants give the

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Speaker 1: opportunities to do that, given the fact that the offense

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Speaker 1: and long after third and long. Second thing, I want

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Speaker 1: gonna quote the defensive coordinator. Following the buy Us, he

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Speaker 1: came out, he said, the two things that Giants defense

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Speaker 1: on third down and they've got to get after the quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you have four takeaways against the tamp Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: you change field position with those takeaways. You took pressure

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Speaker 1: not one takeaway, few sacks, three sacks, not necessarily game

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Speaker 1: to to cover up the inability to get off the

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Speaker 1: which was a major issue in this game. There was

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Speaker 1: that one drive rus they went seven place sixty one yards.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles ran one screenplay. The other plays were running plays,

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Speaker 1: ran and march right down the field. Well, that that

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Speaker 1: goes in line to what I was saying. That's a

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Speaker 1: very good point about about the turnovers. But also, like

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Speaker 1: I said, it goes in line. I thought the tackling

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Speaker 1: I was really disappointed in that of everything that happened,

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Speaker 1: because say, I look at it. Interception. Yeah it was

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Speaker 1: bad interception. But you were up nineteen eleven. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: at that as the reason you lost the game, okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: couldn't talk about everything is a missed opportunity. To bottom

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Speaker 1: they had three hundred and forty six total yards. So

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Speaker 1: don't tell me that Eli and the offense couldn't move

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Speaker 1: the way that I would describe it, Russ is the

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Speaker 1: first half from an offensive standpoint, was a continuation of

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna keep repeating myself. Um, that

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get more answers during the week. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: opportunities to keep the opposing team out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: That's what that was. What you say, we opened up

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Speaker 1: the phone lines to five one, three is the number

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Speaker 1: of our Salisburg and Lance Meadow here with you. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to our friend in Kent, New York, Dylan. Hello, Dylan,

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Speaker 1: how are you today? I'm doing all right? How are

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Speaker 1: you guys? Good? Good? Right? What do you got for us? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: the first thing that I'll mentioned, but I don't talk

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Speaker 1: how the officiating was poor. But on both sides, I

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Speaker 1: another thing that there's a lot of crucial penalties. I

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Speaker 1: saw on Sunday there was one on special teams Michael Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He had the whole that brought him back to I

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Speaker 1: your arms around somebody. But I don't know if that

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00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm just wondering, coach, Yes, that does makes sense,

428
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: that that's part of it, that's that is part of it.

429
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: Rus that the hard hit in the game today that's

430
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: been taken out of the game. And but those hits,

431
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: you gotta remember those hits were we're using their shoulders,

432
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: using the helmet, and they're blowing up the runner. That's

433
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: what they would try to do. So that could be

434
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: that part if the other part is that the NFL

435
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: they don't practice tackling anymore. To the practice tackling anymore.

436
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: So you're telling a person that haven't been hitting another

437
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: person all week to load up and hit a guy

438
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: that's we're in two hundreds some of my towns that's

439
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: running at full speed. You gotta have the will and

440
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: they want to to get in front of that person.

441
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: So my thing is there's no perfect factor. That's some

442
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: guys that can't get out there. And he was right, Russ.

443
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: The only one we have is Landing College. He is

444
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: a tacklers. But the rest of them are not great tacklers.

445
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: And if you watch them, a lot of miss tackles.

446
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: Look where their feets are. They're off the ground. What's

447
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: the guy gets through the guys laying on the ground.

448
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: In my case, I always tell them you're useless to me.

449
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: If you're laying on the ground. I don't care if

450
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: he can frighten you off and get off the tackles

451
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: because there on your feet leaked to get your chance

452
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: to drab a jersey, drave something, hold them up because

453
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: the other guys can can help you get them down. Well,

454
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: that goes back to leverage and the angle you take

455
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: when you're also going after the guy with the ball.

456
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's another big part of tackling. And now

457
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: it's right because football is based on angle. A lot

458
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: of things happened based on angles. How you block guys

459
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: on certain angles to get those holes that you want

460
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: and how do you and speaking of the angles, route

461
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: gave me the safety rally. It's a horrible guy that

462
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to two angles. If you remember, and

463
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about all the calls, all the calls when

464
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: it gets both beats. Really but if you remember, there

465
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: was a big run by Philly that cat called back. Yeah,

466
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: well that was the touchdown you're referring to the touchdown yeah,

467
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: the first half. Yeah, yeah, look at the look at

468
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: the angle rally took on that run. It was fible.

469
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: He's the last person between the end zone and the

470
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: guy running the ball, and it's like he ran right

471
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: at him rather than taking the best angle to cut

472
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: him off, and the angle in the its government the plans.

473
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: You're definitely right, and that's the problem we're having. These

474
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: guys think they you gotta have. They took their will.

475
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: They took their will. And then um u um what

476
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: happened on when when we went up nineteen and they

477
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: made it the nineteen eleven they because they ran it

478
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: right down nine grow Not only they did that, they

479
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: made two two point conversions back then. And how did

480
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: they do it? They ran the ball right at us,

481
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: and it looked like we had no attempts to stop

482
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: them from making those two point conversions. And then we

483
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: get the ball, we go down. It is nineteen eleven,

484
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's for sure. I love Eli,

485
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: that's my man, but sometimes I think he get to play.

486
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: He knows through the prime receiver in at not all

487
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: the time at times, and I believe that this time

488
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: he did. He locked in on that trimary you fover.

489
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: He never stay in that field. He went right back

490
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: back because when he came out, I huddled and looked

491
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: at the free reads. He knew where he was going,

492
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: and he loaded up and he said, he goes squeeze

493
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: it in there. Hey he took the chance. He lost

494
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: at it. But when you do that and you don't

495
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: score closing out a half, that's the moral license. Well,

496
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: especially because of the field position. I think that's the

497
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: big things. And they just score, so I gotta get

498
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: something back. But for me as a coach, when we're

499
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: in that situation, and now it's different from them and

500
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: us because I'm dealing with kids, and I tell him, hey,

501
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: if it's not that, you gotta check it down. I'm

502
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: always reminding him of something that's important in certain situations.

503
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: I gave him all the options in those situations where

504
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: the situation. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna enforce myself into

505
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: this thing, and I'm gonna say, hey, this is what

506
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for. But if it's not, either you throw

507
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: it away, you check it down, but you gotta get

508
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: rid of it. But don't relieve the point. I empathize

509
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: that to him before those they get out there to

510
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: play that next place. All right, okay, alright, no, got finished,

511
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: your finish your stake real real quick. What else you

512
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: had that's real quick? My more thing everybody's talking about

513
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: the special two. They're doing well. I would love to

514
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: see them use Colvin his special place. Yes, his hands

515
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: don't look that good, but come up with some way

516
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: to get the ball in his hands. Jet jet runs,

517
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: uh while, receiver screens or reverse because if you give

518
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: up this space, I think he can do something. Well,

519
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: you know what, coach again, thanks, thanks for the call,

520
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dispute that, buddy.

521
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: But they did put the ball in his hands and

522
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: he dropped it. Listen, I get what I get what

523
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: coaches saying, because there are things he does. He looks

524
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: extremely exciting. Correct me if I'm wrong not. I don't remember.

525
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: After they scored the touchdown at the end of the

526
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: first I um, the Eagles, didn't he have a good

527
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: return to put the Giants in goodfield. Let's see the

528
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Eagles made it nineteen eleven on the ensuing kickoff. Coleman returned, Yeah,

529
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, so, he he's the one that we wouldn't

530
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: be having the discussion. Well, well that's why I said.

531
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there are so many guys that have

532
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: had opportunities to make plays and haven't come through throughout

533
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: the season to just pin the loss on Coleman. No,

534
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying you are. I'm just talking about

535
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: the larger conversation that we're having. I don't think necessarily

536
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: takes me the consideration some of the other mishaps. Plus,

537
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, I remember in previous games against the Bucks

538
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: where you know, Manning would target Coleman in double coverage.

539
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: He would then come back to the football and make

540
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the catch to coach his point the last caller, I

541
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: think it was more of Coleman has shown some flashes

542
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: on offense. Maybe they want to continue to expand his

543
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: role on offense. I don't think there's anything wrong with that,

544
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: but I think they've actually tried to get him involved.

545
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: It's like anything else. You don't get the ball to

546
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Barkley enough, fans are gonna say, well, why did you

547
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: give the ball to Barkley. You don't get the ball

548
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: to Coleman enough people are gonna be like, well, why

549
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: didn't you get it to Coleman. There's only one football,

550
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: and the good news is the Giants have a lot

551
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: of weapons. You just want to see the execution show

552
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: up a little bit more consistently. Let's go to Scott

553
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: in our buddy Scott in New Mexico. Scott, how you

554
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: doing today, Pal, Good afternoon, guys doing Scott? What do

555
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: you go first? Uh? Lance, you made a very good

556
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: point a week or so ago when I was talking

557
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: to you about how the Giants need to improve, and

558
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: that's through consistency and continuity. And I'm wondering from this

559
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: game that we just looked at. UM. I have a

560
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: sense that this game was sort of mismanaged from the beginning,

561
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: and I wanted to cite some examples and see if

562
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: you guys concur and I'll start with the first touchdown

563
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: when the Giants society to go for a two point conversion,

564
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: I realized the posting team had twelve men on the field,

565
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: so you're balls on the one line your online But

566
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: if you kick off after you know, a point after, uh,

567
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: you're at seven nothing as opposed to six nothing, despite

568
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: the fact it was a wide open target and red

569
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: ellison that Elie nest. But you're at seven of me.

570
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: So the worst that can happen to you is if

571
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: Philadelphia goes down the field and scores, you're still tied

572
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: as opposed to where you were. There also, the poor

573
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: use of time outs they weren't used effectively I think

574
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: in the second half. And also there's a play that

575
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about that I thought was critical, and that

576
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: was a delay of game penalty on Eli Manning. I

577
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: think they had just actually moved the ball for first

578
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: down and they got called for a delay of game.

579
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: And it's plays like that that sort of put the

580
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Giants backwards. Uh. And also the big disparity between a

581
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: number of pass plays and running players. Obviously Sequan had

582
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: a great first half and I had almost a hundred

583
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: yards and didn't touch the ball along end for only

584
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: about five touchers or so, But they had thirty seven

585
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: past plays in eighteen running place. I believe there was

586
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: no continuity the very point you're addressing about the past

587
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: person's run, And isn't that the responsibility really of the

588
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: head coach. I'm not trying to put the owners all

589
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: on him. And I think Russian made a great point

590
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: tackling was poor, etcetera, etcetera. But to establish continuity and

591
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: to establish a winning sense, don't you have to have

592
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: a game plan that really eliminates these kinds of things.

593
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Scott, let me ask you a question. Sure

594
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: they had three hundred forty six total yards in the

595
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: first half. Right, you were not questioning any continuity in

596
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: the first half. Well, just to answer your point, football

597
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: is a zero sum game. It's about wins and losses,

598
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: not about how many yards. But listen, they were up

599
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: nineteen three until late in the first half. I'm going

600
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: to disagree with you on the two point can version

601
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: because you know what I like to me if I

602
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: I'm out a head coach and these guys have forgotten

603
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: more about football than I'll ever know. I like seeing

604
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: that aggressiveness. I didn't have a problem with that. At

605
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: the one yard line they missed the play the guy

606
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: guy was wide open, because you know what, if he

607
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: makes it, we're all sitting there. Wow. Then they went

608
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: up eight nothing, and if the team comes back and

609
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, uh, you're still up by a point,

610
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: So you can look at that. That's nicol and diming.

611
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: I happen to agree with you, uh Scott on the

612
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, the delay of game and somebody used than

613
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Eli called the time out on third and eighteen. I

614
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: get I get that, but you know what, you're trying

615
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: to make a play. The second half fell apart. That's

616
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: what it was well, and they wound up losing by three.

617
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: So even if you give him that point, you still

618
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: wind up losing. It's game if you look at the

619
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: game as all. I want to get to your point, Scott,

620
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: and I brought this up earlier about you know, maybe

621
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the ability to run the football in the second half,

622
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: And I understand what you're saying, and I've always said this.

623
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: You're ideal ratio should be fifty fifty, which is not

624
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen all the time, or it should be very close.

625
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: You don't want to see such a wide disparity like

626
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: we saw at the end of the game when you

627
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: look at the whole box score. But just to get

628
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: to your point, Scott, if you look at the possessions

629
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: in the second half, and I was talking about down

630
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: in distance, down in distance, I don't think allowed the

631
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: Giants to run the football. And that's why there were

632
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: not enough at bats to use a parallel to baseball,

633
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: enough opportunities. First possession to the second half, Scott, So

634
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: first down from their own ten, they ran it with

635
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Barkley for three. Then on the very next play, Eli

636
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Manning gets sacked. He loses eleven yards. So now you're

637
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: faced with a third and eighteen. Now they ran the

638
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: ball on third and eighteen, but you run the ball

639
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: on third and eighteen, you know you're not picking up

640
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: the first down, so there's an opportunity. It's not ideal

641
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Speaker 1: for running the football. Okay, the next possession, Scott, they

642
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: ran the ball. This was the one where Barkley was

643
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: on the sideline, which people are criticized it, but Wayne

644
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Goldman picked up twelve yards on the first two plays,

645
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: so it wasn't the fact that Barkley wasn't on the field. Okay,

646
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: so you pick up twelve yards with Goldman, you're facing

647
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: a first down at your own thirty seven. Then Nate

648
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Soldier gets hit with a false start, so now it's

649
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: a first and fifteen. Yeah, you can argue maybe you

650
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: could have run it on there, but they decided they

651
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: want to gain some of the yardage back that's the

652
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: pastor Coleman, and Coleman doesn't come through with it. So

653
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: now it's second in fifteen, they decide to run it,

654
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: and then Jimon Brown gets called for offensive holding. So

655
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: it was this domino effect where there weren't great opportunities

656
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: to run the football, and when they were even thinking

657
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: about running it. They got moved backwards because of penalty.

658
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: What was the time of possession lands for the talk,

659
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: the possession for the whole game, the whole game. I

660
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: think the Eagles had it for about five more minutes

661
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: in the Giants and so basically they had a ten

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00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: more minutes in the second half because the Giants had

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00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: correct because the Giants had I think it was twelve

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Speaker 1: o five a seventeen oh five and time to think twelve.

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00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. Oh it's flip dramatically,

666
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: But that gets back to my point Russ, and related

667
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: to what Scott is talking to us on the phone.

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: You did not have long drives in the second half.

669
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: You had a lot of three and ounce you had penalties.

670
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: So if you're not milking the clock and you're not

671
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: having the bowl in your possession, it's impossible to maintain

672
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: that edge in time of possession. So Scott, continuing my point,

673
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: then you get the third possession they took over on

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: their own twenty two Eli Manning through an incomplete pass

675
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: to Beckham. So now it's second and ten and you

676
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: throw it again to Shepard incomplete pass your face with

677
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: a third intent. You know you're not gonna run the football,

678
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: and Eli Manning gets sacked. So that's three possessions right there.

679
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: Third and longs did not present the opportunity to run

680
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: the football, and that's why you got that big disparity

681
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: compared to what we saw with balance in the first half. Alright, Scott,

682
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it than got it. Thanks were weighing in.

683
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: Remember down in distance and how effective your drives are

684
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: is going to dictate play calling, Russ. It goes hand

685
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: in hand, and Pat Shermer did mention that when he

686
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: spoke to the media on Monday. But I think it's

687
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: important for people to understand. Yes, they could have easily

688
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: continued to feed the ball to say Kwan Barkley, and

689
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: they did run the ball with Goldman, and they ran

690
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: the ball with Barkley a few times early in downs.

691
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: But when you get faced with a third and fifteen

692
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: and a third and eighteen, you tell me the percentages

693
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: of picking up a first down if you run the

694
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: ball with Parkley on those plays, highly unlikely it's gonna happen.

695
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: The time of possession for the Eagles was thirty eight

696
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: to two, about a five minute different. And think about that.

697
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: And you know they had the ball boy a lot

698
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: more in the second half. Are you kidding me? Well,

699
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the twenty minutes, the ten in

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00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the second half, just about well, Russ. These were the

701
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: possessions of the Giants of the second half. Three plays

702
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: negative four yards to fourteen, five plays two yards to

703
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: twenty two, three plays negative ten yards fifty seven seconds.

704
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: The only productive one that milks some clock was that

705
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: last one where Eli threw at Oldell Beckham in the

706
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: end zone. They settled for a field goal. Eight plays

707
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: fifty six yards for twenty two So basically all of

708
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: their fifty six yards of productivity came on that fourth

709
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: possession for the Giants of the second half. Everything else

710
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: was We're talking about hovering around a minute and a

711
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: half to two minut it's of clock. You know, I'm

712
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: an annoyed with myself because I wanted to ask our

713
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: buddy coach Marv uh from Delaware question and now I

714
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: remember what I wanted to ask him. It's um we

715
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: can hash it out here. Yeah, no, no, no, it's

716
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: just you just wonder to me about the tackling situation.

717
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I know what we brought it up about. It is

718
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: the lack of you know, because people are gunshy on defense.

719
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: But like to me, the more important than that was

720
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: what do we say in all kinds of sports in particular,

721
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: you know what? You say it a lot in in um,

722
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: in baseball with pictures and and and battles making adjustments,

723
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: you say it a lot in football. In football in

724
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: the second half, the Eagles made the adjustments. The Eagles

725
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: made the adjustments, and they didn't well. And the Eagles

726
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: also on the Battle of the trenches. Look at that

727
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: drive when I mentioned they went seven place sixty one yards.

728
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: They ran the ball on six of those plays. You're

729
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna tell me the Giants didn't realize they were running

730
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: the football. The Eagles basically said to themselves, Russ, we're

731
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: running the football. They know we're running the football. We're

732
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: still gonna run the football. So to your point, they

733
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: made the toughness adjustments, the execution adjustments. They were by

734
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: far the better team over the final two quarters. In

735
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: terms of the mistackling, I don't think it's necessarily players

736
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: being gun shy, because I don't remember as a result

737
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: of those miss tackles. It was an opportunity for a

738
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: guy to be laid out Russ. It was a matter

739
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: of the Giants players were in position. To your point,

740
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: it was just a matter of bad angle, not good

741
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: leverage up. I think bingo not wrapping them up, because

742
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: while I'm making that as an excuse, that's basically that's

743
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: tackling one on one, wrapping a guy up, and they

744
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: just didn't wrap the guys up. But it was also

745
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: at what juncture of of the first half. It was

746
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: less than a buck and a half left in that

747
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: first half. What time was at lance on that Goddard play.

748
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: You're talking about the play before Zach Hurtz got the

749
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: touchdown to plays correct, but it was right before nineteen

750
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: eleven that passed to Goddard was with a minute fifty

751
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: five remaining in the second Okay, you follow what up, Sammy,

752
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: You're you're under two minutes. They're going up against your defense.

753
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Plus they're working against the clock. So you got the

754
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: clock kind of helping you on defense, not kind of,

755
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: it's helping you. Make the tackles, don't let him into

756
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: the ends, will make him stop the clock, make um

757
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: spike the ball, make them settle for the field goal. Well,

758
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: and that that drive, that you're referring to Giants are

759
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: up nineteen three. Eagles got the ball back with just

760
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: over four minutes to go in the second quarter. They

761
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: went six plays, seventy five yards and just over three minutes. Yeah,

762
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: so it was a relatively quick drive and it wasn't

763
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: so much running the football. It was a lot of

764
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz just throwing the ball. He got a twenty

765
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: four yard pass to Earth's. He a nine yard passed

766
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey, but that was called back as a result

767
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: of offensive holding. Then he went back to Jeffrey for

768
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: eleven b W Webb was called for defensive pass interference,

769
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: so that also helped move the chains, so not just

770
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: miss tackling penalties. And then Goddard sixteen. They ran it

771
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: for a yard and Earth's a short pass, maneuvers around

772
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the number of defenders, gets into the end and so

773
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: it was actually a lot of damage through the air

774
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, much more so than the drive we

775
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: saw in the second half that I was referring to,

776
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: where they ran it six of the seven plays. Let

777
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Uh, you know sometimes you talk

778
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: about carryo overs from the game. You know, the Giants,

779
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: what what was they had a seventeen point lead at

780
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: one point against the Bucks and they were comfortably and

781
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: they were comfortably and then you know, Jamis Winston came

782
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: in and shredded you know the secondary It was that

783
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: a carry over from the last game, because you know,

784
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: so what it was, was it a bad quarter than

785
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: you had a good first half and then two bad

786
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: quarters again. Well, I think what it gets back to

787
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: is r US. What I raised earlier in the show,

788
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: We've seen at times throughout this season where the Giants

789
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: have had mistackling, have not been able to execute, and

790
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: in games where they've taken the ball away. I think

791
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: it's easier for us to avoid having those conversations because

792
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: it changes field positions so much. I mean, go back

793
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: to that Bucks game that you're referring to. The final

794
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: score was thirty eight to thirty five. That was way

795
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: too close for comfort. If the Bucks Russ have a

796
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: little bit more time and Jamis Winston doesn't go for

797
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: the desperation throw and b W Web doesn't get the interception,

798
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: who's to say that maybe the Bucks don't move the

799
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: fall ball down the field again in field goal range.

800
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: So that was not a clean cut defensive Well, played game.

801
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: It was just you took away opportunities from the Bucks

802
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: to get into the end zone when they were moving

803
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: the football. And that's why I go back to takeaways

804
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: are convenient, but they're also lukey, meaning if they don't

805
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: happen consistently every game, how does your defense come to

806
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: play russ in a game where you don't have takeaways.

807
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: We just saw that this past Sunday. They had no takeaways.

808
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: They had to rely on the XS and o is

809
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: making the stops. Those stops were not made consistently, the

810
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: opposing team cashed in and won the football game. And

811
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying it's no coincidence the three wins

812
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: that the Giants have this season. It's been games where

813
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the defense has been opportunistic for the most part. Games

814
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: where it's not opportunistic. You see somewhat of the true

815
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: colors of this unit. Again, folks, gotta remind you all.

816
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,600
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817
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,160
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818
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819
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Let's go to our

820
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: buddy in Columbia, Maryland, Len Len, how are you today,

821
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: my friend, good, good, good, still suffering from that loss

822
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I'm sure you are. I'm hanging in I'm

823
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: hanging in there. I'm starting to get ready for the Bears. Okay, Um,

824
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: you know Russ, I share your fresh ration on the

825
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: tackling h and it's just you know, you say to yourself,

826
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: come on, you ought to be able to make that tackle.

827
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I want to try to make a couple of points.

828
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: We and I'm not knocking the trade, um, but we

829
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: really miss Harrison in the middle of that line. Well,

830
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna run, if you're going to run a

831
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: three four defense, you gotta have a nose tackle who

832
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: can tie up, who can tie up that center and

833
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: require double teams, particularly when you're playing an all pro

834
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: center like Kelsey with the Eagles on Sunday, Tackling becomes

835
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: and the three or four defense, tackling becomes tougher when

836
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: you don't have that nose tackle tying up the middle

837
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: of that line. Well, he makes everybody bet he made

838
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: everybody better again. But hang on a second, Lander, I'm

839
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with you because you we we touched

840
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: on this with land here. Uh last week Lance. The

841
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: point being, as we stayed in last week, they got

842
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: some young players. They got to see what they can do.

843
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: And you know, whether you or I like it or not,

844
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: but that's the mindset. They got to see what they

845
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: can do. Because I don't think he was going to

846
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: be in their game plan for whatever it was financially

847
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: why I'm just saying on that type, we gotta see

848
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: what these guys can do. Yeah, well, well, let Lennon,

849
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: here's here's the other on defense gets tougher, and let's

850
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: take Harrison's name, take Harrison out of there. Just any

851
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, you need a nose tackle. That's the key

852
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: spot for me on a on a on a three

853
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: four defense. To tie up that tie up that middle

854
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: of the line. It free. I don't disagree with you.

855
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: I think one though. You know, Dalvin Tomlinson is a

856
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: natural nose tackle guy based on what he did in college,

857
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: so now they want to give him the opportunity to

858
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: get his feet wet. I mean, that was a big

859
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: reason behind the trade, and we don't need to revisit that.

860
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: I think that was clear. But the other thing that

861
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention and I'm not saying that they're

862
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: not missing Snacks presents, but let's not overlook the fact, Lend,

863
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: this defense struggled to stop the run even when Snacks

864
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: was here. And that's important to note. While Snacks, as presidents,

865
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: would have many difference, Snacks was here for that Saints game.

866
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Look at what Alvid Comerra did. Snacks was there. Snacks

867
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: was there for the Panthers. Look, McCaffrey, do hear that

868
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: there is a Well, you know, you made a good

869
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: point last. What I was going to say next was that,

870
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, you just look at these last three games,

871
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: and there is a difference. I mean, there is a

872
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: difference in the play of the defense. Well, the reason

873
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: why there's a difference, Lend, is if I'm an offensive coordinator.

874
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I've brought this up multiple times, and I'm not saying

875
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: that they're doubling Olivier Vernon because I don't think there's

876
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: enough evidence to prove that. But if I'm just going

877
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: throughout the week and I'm looking at the Giants defensive personnel,

878
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: so I'm the O C of the Bears this week,

879
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm Mark Helfritz, and I'm saying to myself, who am

880
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: I worried about on the Giants defensive line, who concerns me.

881
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: The first name that comes to mind, let's face it

882
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: is Vernon, whether he's been disruptive or not, just based

883
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: on his record and his resume, that's the guy. Whereas

884
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: when Snacks was here, you don't have to think of

885
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: Snacks and Vernon. Now there's not as many guys that

886
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: you have to think about because you have a lot

887
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: of youth on that defensive line and guys that are unproven.

888
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: So just from a schematic standpoint, I don't think offensive

889
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: coordinators are saying to themselves, we've really got to change

890
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: who we give attention to now that Snacks is out

891
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: on the field. I think that's the biggest dramatic change. Yeah,

892
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: Now the other I want to go back, Yes, I

893
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: agree with you, Lance. Let me let me go back

894
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: to the tackling part of it. You know, we're talking

895
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: about that big second year tight end from South Dakota

896
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: State which got it? Was that? Yeah, you got it?

897
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: And of course with Earth's these are two hundred sixty

898
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: pound guys and you've got these little defensive backs. Of course,

899
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: defensive they're all little compared to guys like that. I

900
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: mean in the open field, that tackling gets, it gets

901
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: I mean it gets a little tougher. Really, you really

902
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: gotta really gotta want to do it. I'm sorry. Ah no,

903
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: then I get you on that. But some of that

904
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: stuff was just basic. I mean, as Land said before,

905
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: you're right, I mean they didn't even slow him down.

906
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: It was like flailing at him. It was not trying

907
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: to wrap around. I agree with you. If you were

908
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pound tight end and the guy's

909
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: coming at you two hundred year, you know, two hundred pounds,

910
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: that's a big advantage. But this was not the case.

911
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: This was like flailing at him. It was like, you know,

912
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: playing patty cake. It was not good tackling. But but well,

913
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean you can't get away from that

914
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: as a line. And I'm not trying to explain it away.

915
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make a couple of points. Let

916
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: me let me try to make one more on the

917
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: on the on the tackling idea. Um, if you ask

918
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: any defensive back, let's let's start with the corners. If

919
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: you ask any cornerback what's your job, they're not going

920
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: to mention tackling I mean we I can ask the

921
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: question in another way, how does it How does a

922
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: corner get to the Pro Bowl? He doesn't get there

923
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: because he tackles, he, I say, because he does something else.

924
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the mindset those d

925
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: backs have to really you gotta find the dpax who

926
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: want to want to tackle. Well, you know, I want

927
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: to incorporate that into the game. There's a lot of

928
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: them russ that don't want to do that. Well, um

929
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Landon Collins wants to do that. And you know what,

930
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Coach Marvin brought up a good point before, Lenn. He's like,

931
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: you a good frequent caller. Uh, yeah, yeah, I listened

932
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, he brought up the

933
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: same kind of points. It's they don't practice tackling anymore.

934
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: It's it's like, no, really, they don't. It's a completely Yeah. Well, Lenn,

935
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: what you're pointing two is it reminds me of a

936
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: play we were talking about earlier when they threw the

937
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: bubble screen to Golden Tate and Grant Hanley went right

938
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: at him. You know, those are the types of players

939
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: you want to see out of your corner. Forget whether

940
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: or not he should have made the interception. He attacked

941
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: the football and he went to bring the guy down.

942
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: And I remember when Prince was here, who coincidentally, the

943
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna see this weekend because he's on the

944
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Prince was known to be a guy that was willing

945
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: to tackle. So you're right, it reminds me of I'll

946
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: give you the best parallels in the NBA or just

947
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: in basketball in general. It's hard to teach guys to

948
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: play defense or rebound. You know, Dennis Rodman the reason

949
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: why I have a great deal of respect for him,

950
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's not just because I'm a bulls guy. Okay,

951
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: we don't have to get on topic. The guy he

952
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: knew I'm gonna go out there every day, I'm gonna

953
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: do the dirty world. Well, you know what, let me.

954
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: That's what he wanted to do, and you don't have

955
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: to remind him or teach him how to. Dude, I

956
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: don't want to make this, but you'll appreciate this one.

957
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this a basketball kind of topic.

958
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: I remember sitting down and let him rest in peace

959
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: with the Great Chuck Daily when he was coaching the

960
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Nets and I was asking about Dennis Robin when he

961
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: was with the Pistons, and Riley Daily said, Chuck goes,

962
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: you know what kind of advantage that is when you

963
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: got five guys, He's one of them and all he

964
00:49:52,920 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: wants to do is play defense. All so that and

965
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: that's your point. I agree that you need guys that

966
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: want to do that, no doubt the guys who want

967
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: to do that, who want to make that play, and

968
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: it's not And a lot of those defensive backs, I

969
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: guess the point I'm trying to make, it's not in

970
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: their mindset. I mean it's almost you look up the

971
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: definition of a cornerback and there's a picture of Dion

972
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: Sanders there. I mean, you know, he intercepts capacity runs

973
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: it back, or he knocks it down. That's how you

974
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: get to the Pro Bowl. That's how you get claim

975
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: it's not from your you know it's it's not from

976
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: your tackling. One of the quick point, um, you know,

977
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to make sixty plays. The defense doesn't

978
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: have to make sixty plays. You just gotta make a

979
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: couple of game, you know. I mean, you gotta tip

980
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: a ball. It doesn't take a lot. I mean the

981
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: Eagles didn't make a whole heck of a lot of

982
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: plays on defense on Sunday, still with me, they made

983
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: they made the necessary place. Those were the two big plays.

984
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Jenkins made them both on the in the first period.

985
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: Read on that two point conversion play, he made a

986
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: great play. How he figured out they were going to Penny.

987
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: You got me because if us Jenkins, if Jenkins was

988
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: honest with you, Jenkins has said, you know what, I

989
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: probably should have been covering Allison. He gambled. He went

990
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: after he made a great play. That's why he goes.

991
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: That's why he goes to the Pro Bowl. But that

992
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: and also on the interception on the Elites pass that

993
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: those are the only two defensive plays the Eagles made.

994
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if we didn't make any you you you

995
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: referenced it Lance early on you said, yeah, they they

996
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: had three sacks, but they really weren't impact fact. I

997
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: mean the Eagles got up off the ground and ran

998
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: a play and gained the orders. What the Eagles did,

999
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: as we said before, lenn as always, Buddy, thanks for

1000
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: calling app They made adjustments also though they made adjustments

1001
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: in that second half, and that's why you saw the turnaround.

1002
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: I want, did it bring something up with you. Uh, Lance,

1003
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: I haven't done this. I've been in this business thirty

1004
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: five years, I have I've never done this, but I

1005
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: started to do it this year and and it's gotten

1006
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: under my skin. Some of the the analysts And I'm

1007
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: not even talking about the play by play guys. I'm

1008
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: talking about the analysts who are the X and f Eller's,

1009
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: you know, guys who played the game, and like, I

1010
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: want to ask all of them, when you played did

1011
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: everything what you do? Was it perfect on every play?

1012
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: Like I want to ask, like Booker McFarland, who is

1013
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: quite frankly unlistenable. I mean, I'm listening. I'm watching a

1014
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: Monday Night game last night. It was the Titans and Texans,

1015
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: and he's talking about what the Jaguars and the No

1016
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: No Jaguars and the and the Packers had to do.

1017
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: You know he was saying, he was saying, was talking

1018
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy. Packers need a new voice. Yeah, I

1019
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: think maybe Monday Night football needs new voice. And put

1020
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: a sock in in Booker's mouth. But during the Giants

1021
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: Eagles game, Chris Spielman, who was a hell of a

1022
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: good football player. Rick Spielman's brother, by the way who

1023
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: was the GM of the Vikings. But you know he

1024
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: was not perfect. If I recall, he was not flawless,

1025
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: like nor is anybody flawless. But he was bringing up

1026
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: a point though. Remember on the fourth down play, and

1027
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: and Brennaman, to his credit, said well, wait a minute,

1028
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: is this at least not worth a discussion? Because um,

1029
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Spielman was going, no, they gotta go forth the Eagles.

1030
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: What do they got to lose? So you're talking about

1031
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: the play to Nelson agil that I was fourth What

1032
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: did they got to lose? That's right, what did they

1033
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: have to lose? It's fourth down? They got nothing to

1034
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: lose their four and six, Spielman, what did they have

1035
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: to lose? There were four and six, Okay, they're now

1036
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: five and six. They had plenty to lose whether the

1037
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: play happened to work out, because you know what, they're

1038
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: one game out of first place. And I'll tell you

1039
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: a lot. The Saints are playing the Cowboys on Thursday

1040
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: night and the Eagles up playing the Redskins on Sunday.

1041
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: There's a good chance the Eagles are gonna be in

1042
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: a three way tie for first place. So there was

1043
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: plenty of steak on that play. I mean, some of

1044
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: these guys, it's like, do you just want to make

1045
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: a name for yourself. It's it's becoming stupid. Well, I

1046
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: think there was certainly risk involved in that play because

1047
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles and I we were getting ready to do

1048
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: the post game and we were talking about the same thing.

1049
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: And when the Eagles were facing that, I said, I

1050
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: think Peterson's gonna go for it. And and the reason

1051
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: being is that's just Doug Zamore exactly the Eagles all

1052
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: of last season. They did it against the Giants in

1053
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: that game when Elliot hit that enormous field goal, he

1054
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: loved to go for it on fourth down, and I

1055
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: said to myself, regardless of what's on the line here, Russ,

1056
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: fourth and one, you have an opportunity to milk the clock,

1057
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: keep the Giants offense off the field, even though you

1058
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: know you're right around midfield and you give the Giants

1059
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: great field position. I felt he's definitely gonna go for it,

1060
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Speaker 1: but there's still was risk because, like I said, they

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00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: don't convert that. You give the Giants the ball right

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00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: around midfiel yield. Now there's two thirty nine left. I

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00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: believe the Eagles pretty much still had all three of

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00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: their time outs, but you just you don't know how

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00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: things are gonna play out. All I'm saying is to

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00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: make the point that what they got to lose there

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00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: was a whole lot to lose, a lot on the

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Speaker 1: line given the fact that nobody's running away with the division,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you know, you bring out an interesting

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Speaker 1: point about Peterson, which that could take us back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, the first touchdown where Pat Sherman went for

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Speaker 1: it for the two point conversion. I don't mind if

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Speaker 1: a coach is aggressive. I've always said, I like seeing that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Peterson, you're great with that, you were great

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Speaker 1: with that. That's his m o. He likes going for it,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, sometimes it's gonna buy him on

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00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: a quista, but sometimes he's gonna make it. And if

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00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Eagles, that's what helped get

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00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: you to the super Bowl last year, that's what helped

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00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: when you're a super Bowl last year. So I can't

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00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: be critical of that kind of thinking, and I can't

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00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: be critical of our own coach. If your own coach

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00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: things like that, it's always applause when they make it. Happen.

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: That's only you were a knucklehead. When you don't make

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00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: it happy. The result always that's influences the personal feelings.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt it. If Eli throws it to red

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00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: Ellison and they get it, the conversations completely did oh,

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: what a great decision. Now, personally, Russ, I'm a little

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: bit different than you. I don't like chasing points when

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: it's that early in the game. So that's what I

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: alwastand now, for example, when they did it in the

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: Niners game, I understood Pat Shermer's rationale. You know, based

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00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: on the logic, you have a chance to win. But

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00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: that's a little bit later in the game, first drive

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: of the game. I'm not a fan of chasing points,

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00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: so that that's always That's just my personal feeling. But

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00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: I think and Shermer even admitted this, Russ, if they

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00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: don't get penalized the Eagles and they get they would

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00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: have had the ball at the two for the two

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Speaker 1: point conversion. I think I don't want to quote him,

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: but I believe he indicated because I think somebody asked

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00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: him a follow up question, either it's Sunday's Press or Monday.

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00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: He said I'm gonna kick the extra points. The only

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00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: reason why he went for two was because they said, listen,

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00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: they've given us a bull at the one. And I'm

1106
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: sure his logic is, russ I've got a bunch of

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: professionals that place football for years. I mean, it's asking

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00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: too much for them to move the ball one yard

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: and get in and so to take that one step further.

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Speaker 1: He's telling us, guys, I believe in you. He you know, listen,

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00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: there was nothing wrong with as we said, there was

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00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with their offense in that first half. But

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00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: it's they had three hundred and forty six yards Are

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: you kidding me? It was the most since nine whatever

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00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: the hell it was, and it was quite some time.

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: It was quite some time. It's look, it was a

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: lousy second half. It was a lousy ending. You know,

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: if you ask me this kind of loss, this loss

1119
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: was worse than the loss in Carolina because this one

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: they had the lead from the get go. It was

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00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: all good as opposed to a back and forth type

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00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: of follow what I'm saying, it was just, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's the same thing with the bad interception. If

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Speaker 1: if it's not an in deception and Theedili makes the connection.

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, it's just in fairness to Eli what the

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Speaker 1: public has made. And you know what, I'm not even

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: putting this on the fans. I'm really putting it on

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Speaker 1: the media. I'm putting it on the local media. Eli

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Speaker 1: is not allowed to make a mistake. That's the way

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Speaker 1: it is. It was. He had a respite for two games.

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Speaker 1: Here we go again. He's not allowed to make a mistake,

1132
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: and the minity makes a mistake, all hell breaks loose

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00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: and all right, we have to find a replacement, which

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00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: really is not fair and for a guy who's given

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Speaker 1: his heart and soul, you know, for fifteen years, is disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, folks, that is a rap on.

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Speaker 1: Today are thanks to our illustrious producer Dave dominic Uh

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Speaker 1: to my buddy here Lance Meadow, I'm Russ Salisburg and

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Speaker 1: always last but not least, thank you to you the fans,

1140
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: because without you we'd have nobody here to be talking to.

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00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: So until tomorrow it as I Russ Salisburg saying bye bye,

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Speaker 1: so long and farewell. See you have a go on