1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sell of Sound, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: John Oshans Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive starts right now. Welcome 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: in Jaguars Drive Time. In his Wednesday morning, December twenty second, 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars back on the tracks field to day, getting 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: ready for an away game against the New York Jets 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: on Christmas weekend. John Osier and Brian Sexton here, and 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: we have a busy day, so we're gonna get right 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: into big things. Big thing one is shoddy passing. Game 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: coordinator and quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer will now be calling 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: the play for the Jaguars offense. Can this look different? 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Will it look different this week? Or is it simply 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: just moving some chairs around. Darryl Bevil breaks it down. 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: I thought about it, um, as I told you guys, 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I would you know, I thought about it a lot. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: UM had some conversations, you know, with Trent and um everybody, 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: and I think, what's what I'm gonna do is I'm 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: going to turn the play calling over to Brian Schottenheimer. 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: UM to really help Hope on the offensive side of 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: the ball. I think it helps us in a lot 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: of ways. Number One, and lets me you know, take 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: more on of the of the head coach role that 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: that I'm being asked you with that added responsibility. But also, um, 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, we have a really accomplished, another accomplished play 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: caller in our midst you know, and um be able 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: to let Brian take an opportunity at it and put 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: his own uh you know, personality into the offense as well. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: We'll be obviously in the cons communication. We game plan 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: together UM a lot anyway, So I'm really confident, um 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: and uh you know, happy day do I'm gonna be 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: able to turn out to m And big thing too 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: is starters were likely to see some new guys these 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: final games that we haven't had the chance to talk 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: much about. Maybe we see a walker little with the 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson injury, or maybe we'll see more of Andre 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Cisco with ray Sean Jenkins placed on end of reserve. 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Now is the time of the season where you want 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: to start seeing more of your younger guys play, So 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: possibly that starts this week against the Jets. Big Thing 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: three is similar question mark. Trevor Lawrence has nine touched 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: ouns and fourteen interceptions this season. Rookie quarterback for the Jets, 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson has six touchdowns and eleven interceptions. Out of 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: all the rookies in the NFL, Mac Jones for the 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Patriots is the only one with a positive ratio ratio. 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: But despite all these rankings, head coach is proud of 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: how Lawrence has handled this year. The NFL season is 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: hard enough just being a rookie and and playing the 47 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: position that he that he's um that he gets to play. 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of responsibility on his shoulders. 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: And you know, anytime you add any more distractions or um, 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, outside interference into that, I think, you know, 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: just it adds to that. Um, you know, I like 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: the way he's handled I think he's been a true, 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: true professional about it. Um. He continues to work and 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: has been about his business teaching every day. So UM, 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of really proud of you know 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: what he's what he's done, and he's last you know, 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: over the over this time that he finger and that 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: is big things. Brian Sexton is virtual with us this 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: morning on Drive Time, and Brian, we just heard Darryl 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: Bevil talk about Brian Schottenheimer being the play caller and 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: it seems to make sense because Dary Bevil now has 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: to worry about being a head coach, and that's a 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: lot of responsibilities, sure, dealing with the doctors in the 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: media and all of the different elements that's required of 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: a head coach. But it speaks also to Brian Schottenheimer, 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: who for twelve years is called plays as an offensive 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: coordinator over his long career. He also has a really 68 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: strong relationship with quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Those two have worked 69 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: together well by all accounts this year, and so what 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: he's really doing is putting the two people who work 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: closest together together to start working on what works for 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Trevor and what he thinks they can accomplish out on 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: the field again with the limited weapons that they have. 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: How different will it look? I don't know. Will it 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: look somewhat different? It might, Yeah, I think it'll look 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: different for a while, much like the other day. It 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: looked different for a while when Bevil was sort of 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, free Darrell if you will, you know, and 79 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: it looked like he had some wrinkles are really And 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: then it looked like what usually happens with a new 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: play caller. You get a two or three series bump. 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: Until the opposing defensive coordinator can sort of adapt to 83 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: what you're doing, figure it out. If you remember last 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: year early Jay Gruden had some success with Minshew first 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: couple of games, and then it looked like coordinators kind 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: of caught up and said, Okay, this is what he 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: can do with this quarterback. So I would anticipate a 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: similar bump for the first quarter and a half or 89 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: so on Sunday. I would expect some more life. But 90 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know after fourteen games, if it's realistic. 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Thing is gonna be a huge jump from Brian Schottenheimer 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: because as as Darryl mentioned, they've been sort of hand 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: in hand and very like approaches anyway, So I don't 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a sea change in terms of uh, 95 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, complete offensive overhaul. Why not try? Yeah, why 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: not try? Why not try? What I mean? Nothing else 97 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: has worked? Right? I mean, oh no, no, why not 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: giving it over to him? And and and I know 99 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: you're not arguing that, John. I think what'll be interesting 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: to watch is Trevor Lawrence has been side by side 101 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: with Brian Schottenheimer on the sideline, and you know, because 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: the cameras are following the rookie quarterback. They follow him everywhere. 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: You've seen the two men handed glove. I thought it 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: was interesting last week what Trevor talked about, how it 105 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: was to have Darryl Bevil on the sideline and how 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: nice it was to be able to go back there. 107 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of interested in how will the dynamic 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: work with Shottie moving up to the booth again. When 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: you're two and whatever, um, you look for interesting storylines 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: like this. It is it's hard to count how many 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I catch myself saying two and eleven A lot? Yeah, 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: and it's yeah. I mean, the reality is you're limp 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: into the finish. You're trying to get there. You're trying 114 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: to say as healthy as possible and get some reps. 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: But we have storylines, so we'll discuss them. We will. 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: That leads us to big thing to speaking of a storyline, 117 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Andre Cisco. We are going to see more of him. 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: That's because ray Sean Jenkins has been placed on injured reserve. 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: But Darryl Bevil did say that he would be in 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: rotation with Daniel Thomas, so Brian, we're not sure exactly 121 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: how much Cisco, but my gosh, fell fans be happy 122 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: because he's coming. We just don't know how much. Well, 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: he's certainly a guy who came with a pedigree as 124 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: being a ball hawk thirteen takeaways in his two seasons 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: as a starter at Syracuse, and man if the Jaguars 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: desperately needed that. I saw him make a very big 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: open field tackle to set up a fourth down at 128 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter last week, and as John pointed out, 129 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: he got blocked pretty easily on that to screenplay on 130 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Cook's final touchdown. So it'll be up, it'll be 131 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: down hopefully. What you see as a guy who isn't 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: afraid to jump in there and put his nose in 133 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: against the run and can make a play, maybe an interception, 134 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: pick up a fumble, something, do anything that says, okay, 135 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: this is why you're a third round pick before this 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: season comes to a close. Yeah, And I know the 137 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: Cisco phenomenon has been indeed phenomenal this year in terms 138 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: of fans wanting to see him, and I get it 139 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: because he was the sixty five pick in the draft. Uh. 140 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: It's okay though to see some Daniel Thomas makes Dan 141 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: here too. They they are both young guys, uh, with 142 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: potential Daniel Thomas is a guy who could be around 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: here for the next two years. So to get a 144 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: chance to see both of those guys in this same vein, 145 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I do sense that. I'm not sure how they're gonna 146 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: do it, but you just get the feeling you're gonna 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: see more Walker Little down the stretch, and uh, I 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: don't want them to put Trevor Lawrence on the bench 149 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: in any way. I would not mind them playing Walker 150 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Little over one of the two tackles. And that's in 151 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: no way a knock on Camra Robinson. I think that's true, 152 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: even if Cam is here next year. But a chance 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: to see Walker Little in that in that rotation, in 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: that real live uh play, I think I think it's time. 155 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll do it, but I feel 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: like it's time. Yeah, And I think it's interesting. We 157 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: talked about the scenario of Okay, well j Wan Taylor 158 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: struggling right now, so put Walker Little in there. It 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that's going to happened, because I think 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: would have already happened by now if it did. It 161 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: seems like, especially now with Cam Robinson, you mentioned limping 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: to the finish line with those injuries. It just makes 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: sense put Walker in his natural position and just see 164 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: what he can do. Yeah, and it didn't make sense before, 165 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: but then Walker Little came in and now he's played 166 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: okay without getting the quarterback just waylaid. I think it's 167 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: a game and a half now, so you've gotten some 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: trust in him. The whole idea of not playing him before, 169 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, you wanted to protect the quarterback at all 170 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: costs and you were still quote playing for something. There 171 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: does come a time late in the season with the 172 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: struggling team where it is time to see some guys, 173 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: not a full scale, not every rookie in there, but 174 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: with a Walker Little, it just feels like it makes sense. 175 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll do it, but it feels 176 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: like it makes sense. Can go back. I want to 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: go back to to to Daniel Thomas real quick because 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I agree with everything John said about Walker Little. He's 179 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: a guy that in training camp last year last summer 180 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: we were excited about and thought he would find his 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: way onto the field. That hasn't happened. But he's a 182 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: talented guy, so let's get him out there. Uh. Daniel 183 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Thomas is a guy that I had really high hopes 184 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: for before he got injured in the Pittsburgh game last season. 185 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who when he was 186 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: on the field in a four game stretch between the 187 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: game in Houston and the Steelers game where he broke 188 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: his arm, you know, headed into the locker room at 189 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: halftime after that interception. He's got size, he's tough, and 190 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: you're allowed to find sixth round picks who become quality starters. 191 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: So just because this goes a third round pick doesn't 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: mean Daniel Thomas can't work his way into the lineup 193 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: as well. He is a really talented guy. And if 194 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: you went into next year with Cisco and Daniel Thomas 195 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: both his starters, I think you'd like that outcome. I 196 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: don't think Dewey is a starting caliber guy. I don't know. 197 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know how he's made it 198 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: all season long. Ray Seon Jacobs is highly paid. But 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: I think Daniel Thomas is a quality football player, and 200 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: I think if Cisco is what people expect him to be, 201 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: I think Thomas can surprise some people. I'm excited about 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: him still. I agreed that safety position is just up 203 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: in the air, and it's up for grabs for Cisco 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: and Daniel Thomas to make something happen. So we'll see 205 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: this week against the Jets if they can do just that, 206 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: that is big things. When we come back on the 207 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. Some of this or that coming up. 208 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: Price dot Com is the easiest way to save money 209 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: with comparison shopping, cash back coupons all in one. It's free. 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: Try price dot com today. This that this that we're 211 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: back Jaguars Drive time. It's Wednesday. It's time for this 212 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: or that presented by price dot Com and we're gonna 213 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: go to Atlantic Beach. Brian Sexton, you're up first, all right, 214 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: So here you go, and I'm gonna let John answer 215 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: this before I have any comment at all. Who would 216 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you rather have? Would you rather have an established coach, 217 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: someone who has done it to come into the franchise, 218 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: especially in its current state right now, or would you 219 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: take a chance on one of those up and coming 220 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: offensive minds, in particular Byron Leftwige Eric b Emity. I 221 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: mean you choose who, So essentially, John, what I'm saying 222 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: is Jim called Well or Byron Leftwich, which are the 223 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: two names that people seem to be bandying about the most. 224 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a college head coaching on the table, Brian, and 225 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't oh igt um uh. You know. The reality 226 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: is I don't care which as long as they get 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: it right. And I always go back to if there 228 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: was a formula for all this, and this ties into 229 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: my question as well. If there was a formula, teams 230 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: would always go with the formula, it would work. It 231 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: comes down to the human being involved. I like the 232 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: idea Doug Peterson. I like the idea Jim called well so. 233 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: I guess maybe because of what just happened, I have 234 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: leaned toward seeing somebody that I've seen done it before, 235 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: or I've seen him do it before that's not very 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: good English um so Caldwell Peterson, because I've seen them 237 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: in that role. I get the idea from from watching 238 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: Doug from Afar Doug Peterson that he's the kind of 239 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: guy who can sort of say, Okay, this is the 240 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. Old NFL guy not old, 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: but has been in it for a long time, understands 242 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: what it takes in the NFL had to calm things down. 243 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: My gut is that I like that, But what I 244 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: really hope is that shod goes through it methodically and 245 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: finds the guy that you just feel like. We'll have 246 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: the ear of the players, a guy who can connect 247 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: to the players, and a guy who is genuine with 248 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: the players. I think it's critical right now no matter 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: which way you go. But the old guy in me, 250 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: I'll go with the older guys, uh, the guys who've 251 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: been established. I would say that you can do both. 252 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: I would say that you can get the old guy 253 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: is the NFL head coach, then hire as an offensive 254 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: cordina or the hot new offensive mind. We've seen NFL 255 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: teams do that. I think you can do both. But 256 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, you need stability right now. Like a millennia 257 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: over Ryan wants everything at all. And I think you 258 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: can do both. Why do one when you can have to? 259 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: You can get both done. But yes, you need some 260 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: stability right now. So I understand the need for I've 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: done this before, I've seen this, and I can handle this. 262 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: The issue you have is finding that bright offensive mine 263 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: who's not already a coordinator, because they're not going to 264 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: jump ladderally pay him a lot of money. No problem, Well, 265 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: you generally won't let him. I'll say this I know 266 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Byron Left, which well, right he was here. I saw 267 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: him at the Senior Bowls the years that he was 268 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Uh, this is a guy that I would 269 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: love to be the head coach of the Jaguars. The 270 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: only cause I have is this is all of a 271 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: sudden because of the messiness of this year. It's a 272 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: pretty big lift. I mean, this is someone who's got 273 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: to come in and not only bring an offense in 274 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: and take a quarterback and bring him to the next level, 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: but he's a guy who's got to install bulture and 276 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: all of all of that way of doing things. And 277 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's too big for any one of 278 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: those guys, a b M and or a Left which 279 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: to deal with. Which is why I kind of leaned 280 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: towards Caldwell because of his and I said this to John, 281 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: his ties to Tony Dungee. I mean, a young Tony 282 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Dungee would be the perfect person to call him this 283 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: franchise down right now. Who is that person? And I 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: asked John and he said, well, Jim Caldwell. So Caldwell, 285 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson obviously comes from the Andy Reid school. We 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: saw what he did there. Any of those names work, 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna lean towards the veteran guy who's done 288 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: it before, just because of the circumstances of the season. 289 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: But always remember, uh, Tony Dungee when he was young, 290 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee was a guy who needed a shot. And 291 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: so there's there are guys out there. There's a young 292 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee out there. Uh, it's just a matter of 293 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: finding him. So that's and and maybe and maybe it's firing. 294 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Maybe that guy is by Byron Left, which for people 295 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: who did not get a chance to know him in 296 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: his four years, here is an a plus first rate 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: human being who has been through some tough times, who's 298 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: proving himself on the field at Marshall. He did it 299 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: not at a high level of this league, but was 300 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: around a long time and he's certainly done it in 301 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: his time in Arizona in Tampa. Maybe it's him, Yeah, 302 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: so mine, Yeah, the time for me? Okay. And this 303 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: is sort of a different version of the same question. 304 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Head coach will be an offensive background or defensive background. 305 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: And uh, I'll ask Brian this, but I'm selfish, so 306 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk on it first. Um. I the reason 307 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: I chose this question is what's fascinating. It's not new, 308 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: but it's it's you know, it's almost as if these 309 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: days there's no question that it's always going to be 310 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: an offensive guy. We're dealing with a different scenario this 311 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: week where the Jets went with Robert Salo, who's a 312 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: defensive guy. But boy, that's becoming rare. And now it's 313 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,359 Speaker 1: almost like by default. It's almost like the defensive guy 314 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: has to be so exceptional to break into the head 315 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: coaching ranks. Uh, we've really turned as a league toward that. 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, 317 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: because frankly, I think the head coach responsibility is far 318 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: more about what I mentioned earlier, leadership connection with the players. 319 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: The players looking at that guy and saying, is this 320 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: somebody I can believe in? To me, that's a head coach, 321 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: and whether he's offensive or defensive background, I could care less, 322 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: but that's not the way the league's going. Uh. The 323 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: thing I didn't mention here, Brian, there should have been 324 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: an or special teams because John Harbaugh has shown us, 325 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people who theoretically believe 326 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: the special teams coach is the best place to jump 327 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: from because you're dealing with all different players and you're 328 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: having the league, You're having to deal with adversity more 329 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: than the others. So I believe it will be offense, 330 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: because you know, Goodness knows every candidate is an offensive guy. 331 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: But what do you think, Well, I wouldn't pass up 332 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: another John Harry Ball and Joe D. Camillis when he 333 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: was here and I had this long conversation about special 334 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: teams coordinators, and Joe has been around the league a 335 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: long time and he wanted a shot to be a 336 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: head coach, and he kept pointing to Hardball, and he 337 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: pointed out the fact that the special teams coordinator is 338 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: the only other coach other than the head coach who 339 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: gets up in front of the team, the entire team 340 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: every week. The offensive coordinator doesn't, the defensive coordinator doesn't, 341 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator does. Um, I have to profess ignorance. 342 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't know who the hot name among special teams 343 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: coordinators is, but if I'm shot Khan, I certainly want 344 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: to know because I don't want to miss on that 345 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: one either. And I hate to sound somewhat millennial. Um, Shelynn, 346 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm stealing this if you want it. I don't care 347 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: at all come from not at all, and I'll tell 348 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: you why, because Sala was the guy that I wanted 349 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: for this job last year when when names started coming out. 350 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Robert salis a stud, the father of six, a guy 351 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: who built a I'm looking when this defense is really roaring. 352 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: He was a big part of the reason why smart 353 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: guy UM, an instant leader, great story, and what he 354 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: did in San Francisco just built on what he did here. 355 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: If you have a Robert Salo, a stud personality, that 356 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: guy that everybody follows and says he's the man, he 357 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: knows how to do it. I'm doing it his way. Man, 358 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: go get that guy. I don't care where they come from, 359 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: um and I and I won't profess to know which 360 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: of the candidates are that guy. I mean, I think 361 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: I know because I know Byron, but I think everybody 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: else needs to be able to prove that to con 363 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: very true. And I think it's dependent as well as 364 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: who's here, who's staying here. If Joe Colin remains the 365 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, I feel good about that. I think he's 366 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: done a heck of a job this year, and maybe 367 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: if you have that stability on the defensive side, you 368 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: you feel better about hiring the offensive mine as head coach. 369 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: But John, you're right, every guy is an offensive head 370 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: coach at this point. Yeah, and again I go back 371 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: to um when the background and the ability as a 372 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: coordinator is the most overrated part of the head coaching equation. 373 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: When I worked with Tony Dungee, he always said the 374 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: biggest adjustment he had to make and go into a 375 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: head coach was realizing he wasn't the defensive coordinator anymore. 376 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: You couldn't solve problems by getting in a film room 377 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: and playing the plays back and forth. You couldn't be 378 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: the mad scientist anymore. You had to be the leader, 379 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: and you had to set the tone. It is a 380 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: different job than coordinator. So don't worry so much about 381 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: the background, worry about the man. Can I throw this 382 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: out there real quick? I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised 383 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: if we don't see the day, um, John, where the 384 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: head coach comes from an analytics background. We're talking about 385 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the CEO of strategies, right, Um. You don't necessarily have 386 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: to be able to draw the excess and nose to 387 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: be able to understand the game and strategize. I think 388 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: that may be the future, but we've seen analytics grow dramatically. 389 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: If you can lead, if you can build a good staff, 390 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: if you can interview well, and if you trust people, 391 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: and if there are people that you trust, I mean 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you could see an analytics person who becomes the head 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: coach if they've got that leadership ability. Yes, and communicate communication. 394 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the key. That's that's that's out. That's 395 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: that's a hot a right, that's a Monday kind of thing. 396 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: They should say that. This conversation with a lot of 397 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: coaches and talking about where women go in this game, 398 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: and you see more and more women getting involved in 399 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: personnel and on the sidelines. And someone asked me, could 400 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: a woman be a head coach? And I said, yeah, 401 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: for sure, because you don't have to have played the game. 402 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: If you understand the strategy of the game. That's what 403 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: a head coach really is is someone who understands strategy 404 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: and how to lead players. Very true, has to be 405 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: a people person. All right, I'm gonna go quickly on this, 406 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: mind this or that, and this is just for argument's sake, 407 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: because like millennials say, you can do both. You can 408 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: keep both these guys, Marvin Jones or DJ Chart. Let's 409 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: say you can only keep one next year, Brian, who 410 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: you keeping Chart? Uh? Hey, he's younger, be he is 411 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: a speed guy. He's got size and speed, He's got 412 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: all the measurables. I love who Marvin Jones is. I 413 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: really yeah. I mean he's a fascinating human being and 414 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: really the kind of guy you want in your locker room. 415 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: But I've got to go with the size speed ratio 416 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: the chart brings. And I think that Marvin Jones the 417 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: struggle to get open this year. Yeah, if I could 418 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: have in his prime Marvin Jones, I would take Marvin Jones. 419 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought, well, it would be a conversation, uh with DJs. 420 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Brian said, he'll be going into his fifth year. I'm 421 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: not sure what the future is for either of them, 422 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: but if you had to have one of them back, 423 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: I think's DJ Chark because he's shown that he can 424 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: get deep, and he can when he's right, he can 425 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: be the dynamic, across the middle, playmaker all those things. Yes, 426 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: coming off a major injury and luckily posted yesterday on 427 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: his Instagram that he is off the scooter, rehabbing, back 428 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: in the pool, back on the treadmill. So good news 429 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: for DJ. But but that's the big question. How does 430 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: he rehab from that injury. It's definitely a bullet point. Yeah, 431 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna well, he'll be fine from the injury. I 432 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: think the big question is how the new decision makers, 433 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: however that plays out, are going to feel about him 434 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: and where DJ thinks his market value is versus the 435 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: jagged with the injury throws a lot of clouds into that. 436 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Who knows. I hope he's back. He's a good kid. 437 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I like him, absolutely agree. And that is the curtained 438 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: a presended by Price dot Com. 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Yeah, 448 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: I included this, and I kind of laughed at because 449 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: my answer when I was reading, uh, when I was 450 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: writing the answer to this question was Yeah, just like 451 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: last year, it's the same situation, but it's even moved 452 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: forward one more year, and that there's a little bit 453 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: of a time element. Now, last year when you were 454 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: hiring Irvin Meyer to coach Trevor Lawrence, which that was 455 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: what it was going to be, he was a rookie. Well, 456 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: now he's in a second year and you have to 457 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: fix some of the things that went on this year 458 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: to do it. So is it the most important? Uh? 459 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: In some ways yes, because every head coach almost by 460 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: its nature, is the most important higher of all time 461 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: because it's what it is. But I think in this 462 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: case it is again unfortunately again, you know, I was 463 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: thinking about this when I saw this question. When the 464 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: Dragonards are winning in the nineties, everyone laughed at the 465 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Remember they had that string of quarterbacks with 466 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: David Klingler and Achilles Smith and they just couldn't get 467 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: it right. Um, But they had been really good in 468 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: the late eighties. In the eighties, everyone laughed at the Saints. 469 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Remember when they were the Eights, the first team to 470 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: go one in fifteen in a sixteen games schedule, And 471 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: we can go back and find these franchises that become that. Well, 472 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: where the Jaguars are now when people look at losing 473 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: franchises and what a point their figure, they said, well, 474 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: at least you know we're not the Jaguars or the 475 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: lowly Jaguars, as the writer in the Wall Street Journal 476 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: referred to the Jaguars in the same article you know 477 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: three times last week. It's important because they've got to 478 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: get away from that, right. Eventually the Bengals got away 479 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: from that. Eventually the Saints got away from that, and 480 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: for the Saints it was a long time. It really 481 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't get away from it until they got Sean Payton 482 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: in there. Um, although did have a nice little run 483 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: there in the in the mid eighties with a dome patrol. 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: But I digress. You get my point, John, What I'm 485 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: talking about is getting past the stigma that the Jaguars 486 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: franchise will never be any good. It certainly can be good. 487 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: It can be good next year if they pulled the 488 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: right levers and make things happen but we should never 489 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: just assume that the Jaguars can't be better, because every 490 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: franchise has its turn at the bottom, and I think 491 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: it's time for the Jaguars to get past it. So 492 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: certainly this is a huge higher. Yeah. I mean, people 493 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: ask me who's had the number one pick overall two 494 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: years in a row. Well, the Browns have done it twice. 495 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Look at the Browns now they're a competitive franchise. The 496 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: Bucks have done it twice. They've won. They've also won 497 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. The Colts had the number one picked 498 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: two out of three years a few years before I 499 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: got there, and then they were on a run of 500 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: unbelievable success. Uh. This will turn around at some point. Uh, 501 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: it has to, and it will because it's it's the 502 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: sickle of nature of the league. The next head coach 503 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: has a chance to do it, and I will see. Yes, 504 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: I got to get the right guy in there. Let's 505 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: go to Atlantic Beach, Chad, All right, John shot Khan 506 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: gives you the power to do one thing to turn 507 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: this ship around. What do you do? Hire the right guy? 508 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: And I'm joking, but that's sort of the theme of 509 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: the show. It I don't care necessarily who specifically. It is. 510 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: The more I look at it, the more I like 511 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: the idea of of Doug Peterson and Jim all the Well. 512 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, Doug, I've been looking at more and reading 513 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: more about I like that idea because he seems to 514 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: have a a a a leadership, head, head guy quality 515 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: that I like. So maybe for the sake of this answer, 516 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I'll say go with him, but hire the right guy. 517 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: And by right guy I mean a guy who the 518 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: players will believe in even in tough times. All Right, 519 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: I think that's a reasonable answer. I just want to 520 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: expect it. Here's mine, spend to the cap over the 521 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: next three years. When you look at the Dragon Wars 522 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: salary cap situation, it is well managed. They always have 523 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: room to flop money over into the next year. And 524 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: for the next three years, they've got a rookie playing 525 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: a franchise caliber rookie I still believe, playing on his 526 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: rookie deal maximize the next three years. The rule is 527 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: is that over any three given period, you have to 528 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: spend the average of the well. The cap took a 529 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: huge jump this year, and it's gonna take a bigger 530 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: jump next year. The money is coming spend to the cap, 531 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: get the check book out. Now. I don't mean to 532 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: spend like a drunken sailor and just sign anybody, but 533 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: Davanta Adams is going to be a free agent. If 534 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: you want Davante Adams, you're probably fighting with the Raiders 535 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: and the Chargers, two teams that will take a chance 536 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: on that kind of speed and will write a check 537 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: markets that he probably like to go to. However, get 538 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: in it, write him a bigger check. In other words, 539 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to keep Josh Allen. I want Davante Adams 540 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: or Alan Robinson or whoever the big receiver is that 541 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: can come in and give my quarterback a chance to go. 542 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: And look at the Bucking Ears. You look at the 543 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: Rams and the chances that they take with draft capital 544 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: and with um salary cap room. Okay, I mean the 545 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: part of me like John that's the old guy says, 546 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: who don't get out there too far because you'll get 547 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: cut off. And we saw what happened twenty years ago 548 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: to this franchise. But you know whatever, the next three years, 549 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: while I've got some flexibility in my cap, if I'm 550 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Sean Conner, if he tells me, I get to make 551 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: the decision. I opened that check book out and I 552 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: start spending, and I start making aggressive plays for players 553 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: that I identify have all the right attributes physical and 554 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: leadership right, and I bring them in and I get 555 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm not tired of being the Bengals from the nineties. 556 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the Jaguars of the twenties. 557 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: Damn it. I want to go forward. Here's my checkbook 558 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: starts spending and Slynna, I know you'd love that, but 559 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: you'd be online buying stuff from Amazon. I'm so for 560 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: that take. And Davante Adams sounds real nice right about now. 561 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: That would be a good thing to happen. And that 562 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: is ozone snapshot on the Jaguars Citual Network. Can we 563 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: come back some closing thoughts here on JIB strip Time, 564 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars Game Day Radio is brought to you by Vice 565 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: our credit Union, Do Good, Think Better. Today is Wednesday. 566 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Interim head coach Darryl Beble meets the media shortly in 567 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: about an hour, you can watch on Jaguars dot Com 568 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: live back on the practice field getting ready for the 569 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: New York Jets. Trevor Lawrence addresses the media after prac 570 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: just huddle Up Podcast with Bucky Brooks, John Oser, J P. Shatrick. 571 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: This afternoon, we're right back here Jaguars Drive Time tomorrow morning, 572 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: ten am. We'll see you then