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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 1: with Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: We are rocking and rolling here on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: That what's happening? How are we feeling?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: How are you feeling? That's the real question to what

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Speaker 4: do you mean?

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Speaker 2: This is the norm?

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Speaker 3: This is the norm? Why did you choose it?

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Speaker 2: This is the norm? I didn't, you know what, that's

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Speaker 2: a great question. You chose, that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing better than leading your son down the

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Speaker 2: same path going. I had to do it, and now

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Speaker 2: you will too.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Welcome to life as a Bears fan. That's

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Speaker 2: what it looked like last night. And that's certain.

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Speaker 3: Problem with Bandwagon fans anymore, because you know what, what

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Speaker 3: you just said is that's painful for a child to

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Speaker 3: have to deal with watching their daddies team lose. And

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Speaker 3: now you got to feel the allegiance. It's your daddy

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Speaker 3: that's messed up, so messed up you have.

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Speaker 5: Someone said the Vikings are your daddy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes they are, but they split they split custody

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Speaker 2: with the Packers and the Lions as well.

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Speaker 3: So you said they wouldn't get a daddy on Mariy

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Speaker 3: Povich just.

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Speaker 2: Well, they'd be like your mom sleeping.

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Speaker 3: Around and the father is wait, wait a second, first

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Speaker 3: time in history.

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Speaker 2: Like your mom was a whore even sleeping around. You

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Speaker 2: got three dads in that division. One of them was

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Speaker 2: asking for rent last.

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Speaker 3: Night to make you a lion, viking and packer.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, though, that opening drive was sweet, man,

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Speaker 2: and after that, nothing up and vanish like a far

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Speaker 2: and the wind. I mean, give Kevin, give Kevin O'Connell credit.

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Speaker 2: Like that just looked like one team was totally calm,

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Speaker 2: realizing the situation they were in and just worked through

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Speaker 2: it slowly and ultimately just proved they're the better team

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Speaker 2: and the better organization by the time the game was over.

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Speaker 2: That's what it seemed like to me.

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Speaker 5: Go you sorry, Yeah, I guess that's what you call it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not really sure what to make of that game.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, Like I I thought I

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Speaker 5: thought the Bears were gonna be a different spot. But

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Speaker 5: it's week one, you know, They're just they're not gonna

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Speaker 5: be consistent offensively. And I think I think McCarthy we

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Speaker 5: look at this as his rookie year. But as he goes,

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Speaker 5: he's only gonna get better. And I think that's what

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Speaker 5: you saw in that game. It was a rough first half,

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Speaker 5: second half, he got better.

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Speaker 3: I look at it and I say it's weak one.

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Speaker 3: And what you saw was a team get out to

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Speaker 3: a very very quick start, a fast start. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: looked good. He was he was delivering targets, He was

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Speaker 3: mobile and was slippery and was making good decisions. The

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Speaker 3: defense of the Bears was was playing faster and quicker

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Speaker 3: than I guess JJ McCarthy's, you know, his decision making.

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Speaker 3: But the defense for the Vikings held held them in

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Speaker 3: even though it got to a double digit lead. I

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Speaker 3: think that their their defense did a pretty pretty good

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Speaker 3: job considering the circumstances of how well Caleb was was playing,

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Speaker 3: how Ben was calling, you know, how Chicago was calling

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Speaker 3: the game, and they caught up to him in the

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Speaker 3: second half. You know, they caught up to them, more

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Speaker 3: specifically in the fourth quarter, and in Chicago didn't seem

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Speaker 3: on to the lead and continue on for the win.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what happened. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: be all doom and gloom, even though I do have

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears finishing last in their division. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to say it's all doom and gloom for Chicago

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Speaker 3: because again it's the first game. So there's what I

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Speaker 3: can take away from it is at least, yes, the

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Speaker 3: play call calling looks better. But at some point maybe

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Speaker 3: Caleb has to stop making those like weird ass decisions

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Speaker 3: that lead to him making weird, weird deals like doing

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Speaker 4: Someone said that.

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Speaker 5: I said, Hey, this is the battle of a guy

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Speaker 5: who does it in his fingernails, the one that does so.

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Speaker 3: By the what would say that was the battle?

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Speaker 2: Hey, LeVar be doom and gloom please, Like I got

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Speaker 2: the Bears finishing fifth in that division, right behind the

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Speaker 2: White Sox. That's where I got the Bears. That was

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Speaker 2: awful last night. And Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, spoke afterwards about the pick six and

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Speaker 2: how JJ McCarthy responded.

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Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy for him to make some of the plays

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Speaker 6: he did. I told him at halftime you are going

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Speaker 6: to bring us back to win this game, and the

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Speaker 6: look in his eye was fantastic, And the best thing

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Speaker 6: is just a belief I felt from the team, the unit,

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Speaker 6: and ultimately that doesn't get done without him in the

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Speaker 6: second half, two passing touchdowns and then the critical rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 6: It's not always going to be pretty when you're trying

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Speaker 6: to bring along a young quarterback. You just to keep

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Speaker 6: playing and you got to allow him to grow. There

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Speaker 6: was a lot of just things we can improve on

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Speaker 6: and we will. It'd be great to be home for

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks. All in all, I'm very proud

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Speaker 6: something that will be a redeeming quality as we continue

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Speaker 2: On where I know it's just one game, but that's

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Speaker 2: got to be massive for him, and they were making

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Speaker 2: the point Troy Aikman was last night where he said,

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Speaker 2: I got news for you. They're gonna look at him

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Speaker 2: differently based on how who responded after that pick six,

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Speaker 2: just felt like a real big moment for him. For

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and for the rest of those guys, because

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Speaker 2: he was really that was a big question mark. Was

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Speaker 2: they felt, like you heard the stories about they're gonna

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Speaker 2: go with JJ McCarthy because they didn't have a three

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Speaker 2: year window to win a Super Bowl or a three

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Speaker 2: year window to be contenders. And it's not to jump

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Speaker 2: up and say now they're going to be Super Bowl contenders,

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Speaker 2: but after last night seeing how he overcame that, you

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Speaker 5: Well, JJ is one thing, but what about Kevin O'Connell. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but why aren't we talking about how good of a

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Speaker 4: I mean, is he easy or is he not?

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Speaker 5: At the quarterback whisper, He's had so many guys down

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Speaker 5: not I'm not sure how you look at it, but

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Speaker 5: like this dude can coach ball man like he just

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Speaker 5: he's a leader like that that and I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson is not. But this is his first shot

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Speaker 5: of being a head coach. And Kevin O'Connell is very

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Speaker 5: comfortable with how everything played.

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Speaker 4: Out last night.

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Speaker 5: It's he almost he almost feel sounds like a dad,

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Speaker 5: you know, like like everything out there, he's like preaching wisdom,

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Speaker 5: like like he knows he's coaching the NFL long enough

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be so many times.

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Speaker 5: You just you gotta fix some things, and you gotta

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Speaker 5: make enough places in the end and just kind of

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Speaker 5: believe you're gonna pull it out. It's like it's all

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Speaker 5: gonna work out in the end. That's exactly what happened

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald definitely left his game in Minnesota in game

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Speaker 3: what fifteen?

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just sad that you make a good point.

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Speaker 3: I mean it didn't look like Sam Donald took that

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Speaker 3: on the game white straight. Yeah, because because I do

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Speaker 3: think that the way that O'Connell has handled butter finger

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald's mind is own business.

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Speaker 3: You know, he get hit. He didn got shot up.

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Speaker 4: All the way on Seattle Man, all the way on Seattle.

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Speaker 4: He felt that.

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Speaker 3: I bet you they was playing that balloon game to

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Speaker 3: day and Sam darn Old came walking out. All them

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Speaker 3: coaches is popping their balloons. Hey, but seriously, this Vikings

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Speaker 3: team is a good it's a good team. I mean,

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Speaker 3: his yardage his yardage output wasn't very good. He didn't

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Speaker 3: obviously and when they need it. So so, I you know,

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Speaker 3: when I look at this Vikings team in the way

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Speaker 3: to improve dramatically, you know, with what they have going on,

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Speaker 3: and they're balanced. It's a very very balanced team, and

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Speaker 3: I think they have the potential if JJ McCarthy can

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Speaker 3: continue to learn how quickly these defenses move and get

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Speaker 3: comfortable with it. In game situations. That's going to be

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Speaker 3: in real time, not in practice, is not in preseason games.

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Speaker 3: And once once he gets his head wrapped around, okay,

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Speaker 3: I can do this, just relax. And that's what I

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Speaker 3: felt like I saw take place later in the game.

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Speaker 3: I think he has the moxie. I think think he

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Speaker 3: seems like he's the type of guy that he's going

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Speaker 3: to be just fine. I don't I don't know that

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Speaker 3: he's a franchise quarterback. I don't know if he's a

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Speaker 3: I don't think that showed in last night's game. Whether

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Speaker 3: he's you know, he's destined, his trajectory is destined to

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Speaker 3: be on that level. But it didn't. It didn't show

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Speaker 3: that he didn't have that, you know, that potential. So

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Vikings, I come away from the game

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Speaker 3: saying that this was a learning experience for a new

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Speaker 3: a hostile environment within the division. You gotta feel really

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Speaker 3: good about leaving the game. Would have win last night?

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Speaker 2: They were I saw the stat last night that JJ

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Speaker 2: McCarthy since high school has lost three games as a

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Speaker 3: Well, he went to IMG in Michigan, Like I amg

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Speaker 3: is a college playing high school teams?

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, whoa, whoa jeez, what's what Sam Donald?

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Speaker 2: I am telling me, Man.

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Speaker 3: Did you say Sam Donald? Or did you say J J.

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Speaker 2: McCarty You shot McCarthy go to IMG?

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Speaker 4: Yeah he did. You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a college football team in high school.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to try to lose. It's harder

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Speaker 3: to lose than it is to win.

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Speaker 5: That I am you say what you're gonna say, Say

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Speaker 5: Like, here's the promise you can you can have a

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Speaker 5: If that was your intent, And it sounds like he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a yeah, it was a fun little conclusion

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Speaker 3: And why would it be considered a comedy show? I

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Speaker 4: Jonas.

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Speaker 4: Touchback? Touch?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he actually in the last three years has kicked

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Speaker 2: If you know he doesn't have a strong enough leg,

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Speaker 2: don't you keep saying.

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Speaker 5: This, So like he's more often than not being able

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why he he's making that point out

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, you sound like a Bears fan

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem. Wanted that fifty six seconds. You

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Speaker 3: That's all you got to say that, That's really all

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm pointing out storylines following that game, and I'm

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Speaker 5: Since he's become a Chicago Bear. He has kicked the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he kicked the ball into the enzone last

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Speaker 4: Well, it's your point. You want to die that hill.

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Speaker 2: I'm not dying. I'm not dying on the hill.

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Speaker 3: It just see showed Chicago that's the hill you stood on.

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Speaker 2: Well, first, I didn't choose Chicago. That was handed down

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Speaker 3: Chicago chose you. Yeah, it was handed landed on you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: We're It's like it's like genetics. You know, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So if you're if you're dealt a bad card, you

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Speaker 3: And now myself Steelers, you know, you know, we won

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Speaker 3: You're bro never stopped. I'm never stopped being a Steelers

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Speaker 2: Who hasn't been.

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Speaker 3: No, you will be critical, but you're you know what.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me let me rephrase that I will

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Speaker 3: at it, That's that's what I'll say. You are delusional

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Speaker 2: Is this because I had them as a wildcard team

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Speaker 3: Yes? I think you had them finishing what second in

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Speaker 2: Could he use one of those last night?

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Speaker 3: And so does your team? Damn damn from all that corn.

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Speaker 3: to Up on Game with Me LeVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman, Zada,

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Speaker 3: Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

445
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: you get your podcast from. Cause I'm a simple can

446
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Speaker 3: a man?

447
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 2: By are you getting in the yard?

448
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: Just a simple kind of man, bruh getting him in zoom.

449
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 3: I don't know how to do I don't know how

450
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: to get into stream yard and zoom at the same time.

451
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: The fact that we've got to do both, it's so weird.

452
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: I would have done the yard, but Lee's like, well,

453
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: we need to do zoom so that I'm gonna have

454
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: it in better quality so that we can do it

455
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Speaker 3: for our podcast.

456
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the book yesterday.

457
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't. I went into one earlier and then

458
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: I went into the other, and my I only have

459
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: one camera. Lee. I know that I have one camera.

460
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: I know that I was very impressive.

461
00:23:59,400 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: You're both.

462
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: I was not.

463
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: I promised you you were. But that's okay.

464
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: You could see me on both, Lee, Yes, I couldn't

465
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: see you, and I don't know how that worked.

466
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Probably because you went yard first and then and then zoom.

467
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: But that's okay, that's all good.

468
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: You've been drinking, Lee, That's all I'm gonna say. You're lying.

469
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm lying, Lee, You're lying, and you

470
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: might as well drink you already had anyway.

471
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 5: You know what's interesting. Lee gets combative when he's sober.

472
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: When he's drunk or drinking, he's actually like a good

473
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 5: time Lee. Lee is not a nice person when he's sober.

474
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: That's very true, very defensive.

475
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's.

476
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 5: Like, oh, all the all the realities of your life,

477
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: people call you out on.

478
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: One time if he told the truth once, Like it's

479
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: the problem is Lee is not believable because he always lies.

480
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Speaker 2: I desire.

481
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: He's an only child, which plays a portion of that.

482
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: That's true. I mean the guy might be going through

483
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: withdrawals on the air, and when we are not letting

484
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: him slide for a second that you guys are driving

485
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: me back to the bottom. Yeah, it's your fault. You

486
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: did this. You guys want this. I'll go back, don't worry.

487
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: At least least pitching a no hitter. And you guys

488
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: are trying to lay down bunts. You got to be

489
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: ashamed of yourself. Come on, you guys are gonna make

490
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: him drink.

491
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: You guys are manifesting.

492
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: You gotta knock it off.

493
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 4: I'm not doing I'm not doing anything. I'm rooting for Lee.

494
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh thanks, buddy. It is a two pros cup of

495
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: show here on Fox Sports Radio. Just like Lapart, at

496
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: least says one thing, and LeVar is like, Lee, you've

497
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: been drinking, Like rolls down the window, you've been drinking tonight, sir.

498
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Speaker 3: Oh god, please step out the car. No, I haven't,

499
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: please step out.

500
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 2: Oh so funny.

501
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: So coffee is good this morning, Jonas, Oh yeah, it's

502
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: really good.

503
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: You got that good cup of Joe m all right.

504
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: Cheers to everybody out there having a couple.

505
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: Of Hey, hey, look at Chile's texts.

506
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: It's not uh.

507
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 6: Uh.

508
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: I should be coming through right now, just a.

509
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: Quick So I told you he's all one today. Yeah, alright, I.

510
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: Went to the batting cages.

511
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Speaker 3: I ice in my back man. I'm backing, doctor say

512
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: I need a backy otomy. Man.

513
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: Alright, So let's talk about a reunion that may or

514
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 2: may not be happening anytime soon. U sole back and

515
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: forth between Bill Belichick and the Patriots and scouts aren't

516
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: allowed to go to North Carolina and Belichick feels that

517
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: he's not allowed back in Foxborough. The whole thing has

518
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: turned into a bit of an issue, probably one that

519
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel doesn't want to have to discuss. But unfortunately

520
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: he was on with w ee I in talking about

521
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: this situation of Belichick and whether or not he'd be

522
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: allowed back in Foxborough in a way like this.

523
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Speaker 4: Again, nothing surprises me. I would imagine that that that Bill.

524
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Speaker 6: I mean, he came back for the best of my knowledge, Tom's.

525
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: Ceremony, so that I guess he's welcome back based on

526
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he was there.

527
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: So I'll just go by that.

528
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: Since his departure as the head coach here, he's been

529
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: back and I'll leave it at that.

530
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: Has he maybe been out shopping or something at Patriot

531
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: Place and not allowed to not allowed to.

532
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: Walk to I don't know.

533
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: Does his key card still work?

534
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: Well, when when you get fired the key card does

535
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: not work and I went back.

536
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: I went back. It doesn't work.

537
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 4: The fingerprint doesn't work, the card doesn't work.

538
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: So that was the first thing they do. They don't

539
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: want you coming up in there messing up the place.

540
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 7: Man.

541
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucks. I had that happen. You gotta swipe

542
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: your card.

543
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: I remember the only time I've ever been escorted out

544
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Speaker 5: like for the most part, like.

545
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Speaker 4: They I mean, they were like, all right, is what

546
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: it is. I'm trying to think because one of them,

547
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: like I never even went back. They just told me.

548
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I throw my stuff in a

549
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: trash bag. I'll just whatever. But one of them, like

550
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 4: when they told me.

551
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: They escorted me out, Like I was, I'm not gonna

552
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: do what everyone thinks something to do, right, freak out

553
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: you know who's but.

554
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: That's what they I mean.

555
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: But that being said, there, I have seen some guys

556
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 5: get cut who have not handled it well, you know,

557
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: like not good, like scrying, you know, crying and Mama.

558
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: No, no, please excuse me, don't let me go. Now.

559
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: Oh, I have seen that.

560
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: It's a bad moment.

561
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Speaker 5: I don't judge like, I don't judge that because I

562
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: know that's how much it means to that that person

563
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: and especially to the family everyone else.

564
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: But like, I've seen some stuff.

565
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: Now, I've seen some guys who have damaged some stuff

566
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 5: on the way out.

567
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Actually, bro, I've seen dudes have to get their hands

568
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: removed from the antles of the door. Where I'm gonna go, Wait, really,

569
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: where I'm gonna go.

570
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: It's like the guy who's crying too much on they're

571
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: dragging him in to beat his ass in the cell

572
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: and he's holding onto the bars.

573
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: No, I mean, where I'm I go. That's all I

574
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: remember him saying that. I was like, I was like, man,

575
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm in danger because I know

576
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: him and we we cool like that, but maybe I was.

577
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he was not letting go of

578
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: that handle of that door. Man. He was not letting

579
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: him take him out that front door. He would all

580
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: they they couldn't get him off either. They couldn't get

581
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: him off the door where I'm gonna go. That's all

582
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: I remember.

583
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: It took me till year seven before it happened, and

584
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 5: then once it happened, it was kind of like it

585
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 5: was weird because when Seattle released me, they were like,

586
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: the Jets are gonna call you and they're gonna sign you.

587
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: They need someone to come in. They've got a rookie quarterback,

588
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 5: Geno Smith, you know, Mark Sande's hurt his shoulder, and

589
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 5: literally five minutes later John is it called. So I

590
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 5: was like, all right, everything they said and everything I

591
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: experienced there was that five month period. I was like,

592
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: all right, Like they were upfront honest about stuff.

593
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: So whatever.

594
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 5: Really it was year eight like training camp with the Dolphins,

595
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: because like I could have signed, there was a chance

596
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 5: I was going to sign in New England, which was

597
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: kind of what I wanted because I wanted to see Belichick.

598
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: I wanted to see Tom Brady and they were trying

599
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: to figure out what they're gonna.

600
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: With Ryan Mallett at the time. God rest of Soul.

601
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: And even if they would have just had me up

602
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: for camp and then they would have released me, I

603
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: would have enjoyed that experience more than going to Miami

604
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: with Joe Philbin for that that portion of training camp.

605
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: Like you know, like I think I got like four

606
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 5: pass attempts that entire that entire preseason. So that was

607
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: the only thing that bothered me the most about it

608
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 5: was on the way in there was basically kind of

609
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: a lie of like yeah, yeah, I know you'll get

610
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: to compete, blah blah blah.

611
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: That was not the case. Like that was not the

612
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: case at all.

613
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 3: I was let go from a team. I mean I

614
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: did ask to be let go because I was in

615
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: so much pain. My knees kept filling up with my knees.

616
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: I asked to be released. Once. That's the first conversation

617
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: I ever had with John Ellay, John, release me.

618
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: Somewhere else. Yeah, he was so caught off guard. He

619
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: was like, oh okay, Like like I like, I don't

620
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: know if you just thought I was coming into say

621
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: Loo and meet him or what. But I was like, yeah, man,

622
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 5: I need to get somewhere I can go play, you know.

623
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: And he was like, ah no, we can't do that.

624
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 5: Like everyone likes you. You got a your left during

625
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: the deal. I was like, I was like, yeah, man,

626
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: I need to get out of here. I was like,

627
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 5: I need to go, I need to play. I'm dying.

628
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: I was like, you can understand, you know, I'm dying

629
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 5: over here, Like I don't like being a backup. I'd

630
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 5: rather flame out as a starter than have to sit

631
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 5: and hold a damn clipboard.

632
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, no, you know, I respect that,

633
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 4: but you know, I just got here. Let me just

634
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: you know.

635
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: I mean, because you when you're John Elway, you're used

636
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: to people like naturally just like wanting to come to

637
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: meet you, you know, and then you get in that

638
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: position where like, no, now you're making decisions. It's entirely different.

639
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 5: Hold on, that's a good move. That's a good move.

640
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

641
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: What all I'll say is I had five years left

642
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: on my deal and it would have got two super

643
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: Bowls if I had stayed. But then finished, well, this

644
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: coffee sure is good, man, Yeah, sure is good.

645
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: Make sure you wash it afterwards, So I'm.

646
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Gonna drink it. Oh, like I don't know what you're

647
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: talking about. You wash it out, yeah, clean, clean up.

648
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: After So the the Belichick uh Patriots fiasco. By the way,

649
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina did win this past weekend. I just want

650
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: to point that, so, you know, such.

651
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: A non story.

652
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: Who I know, Charlotte.

653
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they played again, Charlotte, Charlotte. I

654
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: was still on Week one with them.

655
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: But it's like this story and Patriots scouts not be

656
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: allowed at North Carolina practices and Belichick thinking he's not

657
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: allowed at in Foxborough at the Patriots facility, Rabel having

658
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: to talk about it. All of that superseded everything that

659
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: went on in North Carolina. You know, Belichick winning his

660
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: first game as a college coach like that, like nowhere

661
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: to be found. But this is and I'm just trying

662
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: to figure out, at some point, you just got to

663
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: move on. It's over. It didn't work out, and now

664
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: he's at North Carolina. But it does feel like Belichick's

665
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: holding on to this grudge if all this is true,

666
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 2: and who knows, I mean, you know, based on the information,

667
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: it seems like it is. But it just feels like

668
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: he's holding on to a grudge as opposed to just listen, man,

669
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: my focus is over here. Who cares what's going on

670
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 2: with doing good in the Patriots? It's done.

671
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: I tend to think. I tend to think that this

672
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: is a story that will ultimately forever be even if

673
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: there's even if it becomes clear that they're had Like

674
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: think about when they did the roast and everybody was like, oh, well,

675
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: maybe they are all cool. They're all in the same place,

676
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Da da dad, this that and the other. Like, even

677
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: if there does seem to be a coming back together

678
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: of sorts that takes place, this it will always be

679
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: a story because of how everything played out, from from

680
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: the beginning to all of the Super Bowl runs, to

681
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: how Tom Brady left, to how it ended to how

682
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 3: it went after it's it's it's one of the more

683
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: like they make all of these TV shows about Aaron Hernandez.

684
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: They they always do it about like people that do

685
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: killings and stuff like that. I tend to think that

686
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: this is one of those type storylines that is more.

687
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: It's way more. This is a way better storyline to

688
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: do multiple Like why do you have to do multiple

689
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: TV shows? On Aaron Hernandez do multiple multiple TV shows

690
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: on the relationship of Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft and Tom Brady,

691
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Like I would watch every single one of those. Like

692
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: the documentary they did, I watched it. But if they

693
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: were to do like you know, like the way they

694
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: do the docuseries and stuff like that, and they all right,

695
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: this TV network did it, this network shows do it,

696
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: then this third network shows, I would watch all three.

697
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: And the reason why is because, just like why it's

698
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: always getting reported on, this is one of those types

699
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 3: of topics that it's always going to be interesting because

700
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: you start to ask yourself, how the hell did they

701
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: have all that success if they were really at odds

702
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: like this, and I would want to know more and

703
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: more details as it applied to what the relationship dynamics were.

704
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: Who was who with who? Like who was closer? Was

705
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: Tom k closer to Bill? Or was Tom closer to Robert?

706
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Or was Robert closer to Bill? Or was Robert closer

707
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: to Tom? Like was there somebody in there that we

708
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: didn't know about, like Mike Rabel was there another guy?

709
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: Was it Gerard Mayo?

710
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 4: Who was it?

711
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: There are other people that were involved that made a

712
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: you know made this story what it is? Is it

713
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: ty Law? What was ty Law's part in all of this?

714
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 7: I don't know.

715
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: Was it Big Willie Mack? I need to know. I

716
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: would watch it. The story continues to focus on these

717
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: three main characters, but there are other guys, and Mike

718
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 3: Rabel got brought into it.

719
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Well, here's go, here's the problem. They did do something

720
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: like that about the Patriots, and it was Bob Kraft's

721
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: production company who did it, and they threw Belichick under

722
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: the bus. And that's why all his former players came

723
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: out and defended him and said, no, he was not represented.

724
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: Well in Robert Krasso, Well, I didn't know anything about it, dude.

725
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: It's your production company. And I think that probably is

726
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: what put the nail on the coffin for Belichick and

727
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: how he feels about Robert. And they could do the

728
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: toast on stage at the Tom Brady Roast all they want.

729
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: It just seems like Belichick's never going to get over this.

730
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: He's got a red ass about it. Is he should?

731
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Speaker 5: I mean, he got fired like that, like ultimately, and

732
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: and LeVar, you're right, like you talked about this, you know,

733
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: we we kind of talked about how he would leave.

734
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: And I think after all this time, you know, you

735
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 5: can say, par ways, whatever else he got fired. I mean,

736
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 5: he wasn't a mutually agreed upon It wasn't like yo,

737
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 5: this is time, like you can tell he didn't want

738
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 5: to leave, or you can tell whatever the conversation was

739
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 5: between Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick had everything to do

740
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 5: with how he's acting now, you know where I'm sure

741
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: Bill had a vision, he had a plan. He thought,

742
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: you know, with all the success they had there, that

743
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: he would have been given some grace to try to

744
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 5: find the next Tom Brady. And maybe that's Drake may

745
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 5: you know what was he one draft away? Yeah, I

746
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: just you know, I think the heart that is is

747
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: Bill made some really questionable decisions during that period of time,

748
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: and with Tom winning in Tampa, it looked bad. And obviously,

749
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: you know, as you pointed out Levart, Tom was probably

750
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 5: closer with Robert Kraft at the end because of how

751
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick handled things with him, you know. And I

752
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 5: don't know if the strain on Tom Brady and Bill

753
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 5: Belichick's relationship, if Tom looks back and says, yeah, maybe

754
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 5: that played a role in the issues with my family.

755
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: You know where other guys were able to miss time

756
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: in the off season, but I wasn't given that same opportunity.

757
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: You know, who knows what the stories are behind the scenes.

758
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 5: But however Bill Belichick is acting now it has everything

759
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 5: to do with how the breakup was. So look, they're

760
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 5: one and one by the way at U and C.

761
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: Hopefully they can build from there. You know, Geo Lopez

762
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 5: was back, their quarterback got hurt. I just I have

763
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 5: a hard time believing that they're not going to allow

764
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: New England Patriots to have some sort of you know,

765
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: access to their to their team. That's their entire pitch,

766
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: Like Bill Belichick, Michael Lombardi's entire pitch is that like,

767
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 5: who is gonna help prepare you better for the NFL

768
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: than us? Well, apparently you're only having thirty one teams

769
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: look at you, so pretty much everyone else is going

770
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: to help prepare you for at least one extra opportunity

771
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: that you know you're not gonna get. So and anyway,

772
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 5: I think you get my point.

773
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys this, Do you guys believe

774
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 3: that Bill Belichick in some type of way may harbor

775
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: these these feelings that he Harbors because he was maybe

776
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: internally not giving the given the credit that he felt

777
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: he was deserving of, and that with all of the

778
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: speculation and discussion points that surrounded who who was the

779
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: real reason why they won as much as they did.

780
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: Do you feel as though those feelings that Bill Belichick

781
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: had has something to do with his legacy? Like? Am

782
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: I butt hurt? Am I Am I sitting here feeling

783
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: the way that I'm feeling because it's gonna eventually come

784
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: out or maybe has already come out, that the credit

785
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: that I feel I'm deserving of, that would ultimately solidify

786
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: my legacy as a coach and as a participant in

787
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: this sport in this game could come into question based

788
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: upon how the owner feels about me and what my

789
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: involvement was. It could that because I know the one

790
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: thing about coaches and even players, you come into this

791
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: game and you have to have and if somebody denies

792
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: it and says this isn't true, I think that it's

793
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 3: kind of false. You have to have a healthy level

794
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: of an ego when you come into playing this game,

795
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: coaching this game. It's very egotistical. It's it's the arena,

796
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: it's the modern day Coliseum. This is you. This is

797
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: the version and variation of going to war without being

798
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: really a military person, going to a real battle. We

799
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: get to see this play out right in front of us.

800
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: They battle of attrition, you know, the how strong can

801
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: you be? Who's gonna whoop? Who's his ass? And all

802
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: this stuff? Could it be that Bill Belichick and looking

803
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: at what took place in his first game at UNC

804
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: where you could clearly say, you know, you could if

805
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: you wanted to, you could take a shot out saying

806
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: maybe he wasn't that good of a coach. Maybe isn't

807
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: that good of a coach? I don't I don't want

808
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: to get into that because that's not me. But you

809
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: could have that opportunity. Is this a situation where Bill

810
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: Belichick is is like the whole butt hurt thing is,

811
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: don't draw the history books up, minimizing and dominishing who

812
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: I am and what I represent. It possibility that.

813
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: Robber Craft diminished his impact and his involvement in the

814
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: success they had and tried to push it more towards

815
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: Tom Brady.

816
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: And will continue to like think about that and will

817
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: continue to do so. And who's more relevant? At some

818
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: point if Robert Kraft doesn't. You know, obviously age takes over.

819
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: But I mean if if say, for instance, you know,

820
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: something were to happen to one of them, they're both

821
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: getting up there in age, right, something happens, What is

822
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: the story that's written? How is how is the story told?

823
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 3: And I can guarantee you Robert Kraft does not want

824
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: to play second fiddle to Bill Belichick, And that might

825
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: be what the problem here is is that maybe Bill

826
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: Belichick is looking at Robert Kraft like, I don't want

827
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: to play second fiddle to you. In fact, I don't

828
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: want to play second fiddle to Tom Brady. So so

829
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: whatever that narrative is that was playing out internally, it

830
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: might be the reason why Bill Belichick has such hard

831
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: feelings because all you really want when you do something

832
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: great in life, when you do it really well, all

833
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: you want to do is be acknowledged for what it

834
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: is that you did. You don't want that to be diminished,

835
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: and you don't want that to be taken away from

836
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: And I get that feeling that that's what Bill Belichick feels,

837
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: that's what what Robert Kraft is doing or how he

838
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: feels about the situation.

839
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: And Tom what he says, and Tom Brady's caught in

840
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: the middle is two parents fighting.

841
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: While he becomes more and more famous because he doesn't

842
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: have to be the one that participates. He emerges as

843
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: the one that that's chrispy clean because he doesn't have

844
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: to participate in that back and forth. I just wonder

845
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: if that's the case. I don't know. I asked it

846
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: as a question, but I guess I was given a statement,

847
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: But I don't know anyway, Just a thought, just a thought.

848
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 5: I think you're giving some statements this morning. Know that

849
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: I'm making statement. I know you've made some statements to

850
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: me this morning.

851
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: So make some statements, baby, right.

852
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

853
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady, Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

854
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

855
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: All right, so right now, it is the show debut

856
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Speaker 2: for a celebrity. This is a man that you see

857
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Speaker 2: all weekend long on Fox during the football season. He

858
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: is the great Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and college

859
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Speaker 2: football rules analysts. You can get him on x at

860
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Dean Blandino. Dean, thanks so much for joining the show. Man,

861
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun.

862
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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is gonna be a lot of fun, selets, seals, celebrity.

863
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Speaker 7: I kind of feel like I'm somewhere.

864
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Speaker 4: In that range. Yeah, right, don't say that, dude, don't

865
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: say that.

866
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: Dean controllers famous, you know, the what was it?

867
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

868
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Speaker 7: Right, the XBOXX, xbox.

869
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go to x Bucks controller.

870
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Speaker 4: There you go, Dean.

871
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Speaker 5: I want to lead off with all what I think

872
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 5: everyone's like wants to know, is what exactly happened that

873
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys does?

874
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 7: Well? You know, it wasn't. There was a lot of spitting.

875
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Speaker 7: You know, I'm just just saying, I don't know. It's

876
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 7: it's it's crazy.

877
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 4: Kind of like dak is what you're saying.

878
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 7: I get you, yet you exactly.

879
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 5: I guess I'll seriously segue into that, in your mind,

880
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: did it warrant a suspension or she? Excuse me, an

881
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: ejection because I felt like the ref really didn't know

882
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 5: the full deal of what was going on there.

883
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, at least in my experience, there's there's

884
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: there's really been three automatics in terms of ejections, and

885
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 7: it's it's like something involved with it's like, you know,

886
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 7: non football, right, fighting, you punch somebody, kick somebody, stomp,

887
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: you know that type of thing. Intentional contact with an

888
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 7: official and spitting, it's just always been and the officials

889
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 7: have the leeway. The rulebook talks about personal fouls and

890
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 7: all that and fifteen yard penalties, but if it's flagrant,

891
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 7: it can be a an ejection. And then spitting has

892
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 7: always been when you talk about on sportsmanlike considered flagrant

893
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 7: because you just somebody spits on you. That's like utmost disrespect.

894
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 7: And what happens after that they're kind of you know,

895
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 7: it escalates, so h you know the official. Yeah, you

896
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 7: can get into did Dak instigate it? That whole deal,

897
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 7: but I think in a vacuum there's no quot Look,

898
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 7: Jaalen Carter spit on Dak. Officials saw it. It's pretty

899
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 7: pretty standard procedure at that point that he's got.

900
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: To go, what's the worst you've seen that you've witnessed?

901
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: Like this is I can't believe I just watched that.

902
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 7: Oh, I don't you know? It's yeah, I remember some

903
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 7: of those, like the one It wasn't the worsd but

904
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 7: I remember Steelers spangles playoffs when with Joe Porter getting

905
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 7: in the getting in the huddle. And then there was

906
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 7: a whole big thing, you know. Uh, you know, we

907
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 7: we had this who was great by the way, but

908
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 7: we had Endomik and Sue come in. You know, remember

909
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 7: he he he had a little thing, you know, he

910
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 7: had maybe a little little little temper issue, but he was,

911
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: you know, stomping on guys. And he actually came into

912
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 7: the league office and we met and I went through

913
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 7: the plays and he was so like just thoughtful and

914
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 7: went through it all and and it was just like,

915
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 7: this is the guy that's out there, you know, killing people.

916
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 7: But you know there's been some over the years, but

917
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 7: you know before my time. I mean there's always the

918
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 7: famous one one who was at Green Bay. Uh when

919
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 7: he when he got the quarterback who wasn't man, that's

920
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 7: right then he just I mean that that happened today.

921
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 7: Could you imagine what the what the suspension would be.

922
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

923
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: And that's it's pretty interesting to think about. Let me

924
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: ask you you this, Dean. I mean, coming into this weekend,

925
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 3: this week's round of games, obviously, you know the Eagles

926
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: played before the weekend, but the touch push is still legal.

927
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: It's still able to be used and was used, and

928
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: it was used by multiple teams, which I found to

929
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: be very interesting. What what was your stance on it?

930
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 3: And what's your take on do you think that this

931
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: is since it got shot down to not be removed

932
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 3: this past offseason? Is it is it just a play

933
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: that's here to stay or do you see it becoming

934
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 3: more of a safety issue. Haven't seen any or heard

935
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: of any real major injuries taking place, But what what's

936
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: your stance on it?

937
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, person, I don't love to play just

938
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 7: there's so many it's it's a hard play to officiate,

939
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 7: you know, you see that it's just so many bodies

940
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 7: you're trying to find the ball. I don't think it

941
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 7: necessarily legal. Threw a great great for them. It's within

942
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 7: the rules. But this, this had been illegal forever, you know,

943
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 7: prior to you know, or early early two thousands. I

944
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 7: mean that that was two thousand and five, two thousand

945
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 7: and six. It had been illegal because it's just you

946
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 7: think about think about from a defensive side of the ball,

947
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 7: right if you if you if you hit them, hit

948
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: the running back and you stack them up and you

949
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 7: drive him backward, right, you're not gonna you're not gonna lose.

950
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 7: They're not gonna lose all those yards, right, You're gonna

951
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 7: get forward progress. But on the offensive side, we're gonna, okay,

952
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 7: we're gonna allow the offense to gain that advantage and

953
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 7: push him maybe three, four, five yards whatever it is.

954
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 7: So I don't love the play. I don't think. Look,

955
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 7: there's no injury data that says that it's a more

956
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 7: dangerous play than other short yardage plays. I do know

957
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 7: the health and safety people at the League office don't

958
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 7: love it, and they kind of feel like there is

959
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 7: there is a risk for for head and neck injuries

960
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 7: and other things like that. I think at this point

961
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 7: it's gonna probably two things. Maybe if the ego don't

962
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 7: win a Super Bowl, then there I know there were

963
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 7: a lot of teams that didn't want to vote it

964
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 7: out last year because it would have felt like sour grapes.

965
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: You know, they're really good at it. They won the

966
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. I think if there's if there's a you know,

967
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 7: knock on wood. Hopefully there isn't, but if there's like

968
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 7: a catastrophic injury, I think that it'll come up again.

969
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 7: I think the conversation will we'll we'll kick up again

970
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 7: and they'll start talking about it.

971
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 5: Well, and that's like my issue with it is it

972
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 5: feels like the NFL is always reactionary and instead of

973
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: you know, being proactive about like getting rid of something

974
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 5: that it looks like a rugby play. Like, let's be honest,

975
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 5: and if you look at the injuries that occurrent rugby,

976
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: it's mostly neck injuries. People think that because they don't

977
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: wear helmets that like, it's a lot of head injuries.

978
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 5: It's mostly neck because of the way you know that

979
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 5: they then do in those scrums, the way they use

980
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 5: their body. You know, they don't put their head into

981
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: a tackle oftentimes because you know, of again not having

982
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 5: helmets to do so, so it ends up being the

983
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: neck that takes the brunt of it. I want to

984
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: transition though to the kickoff rule because because we've seen

985
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 5: a huge uptick and kickoff returns, so clearly, you know,

986
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 5: giving a team of the ball in the thirty five

987
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 5: is having its impact. But when they made this change,

988
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: did they ever look at just saying let's just move

989
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: back the kicker to.

990
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: Kick off the ball.

991
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did. They looked at two things, so I

992
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 7: think year one they didn't know what it was going

993
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 7: to you know, what the numbers are going to be,

994
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 7: where's the drive start going to go to, how's it

995
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 7: going to impact scoring? And then most importantly, what are

996
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 7: the injury data going to look like? It was all positive, right,

997
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 7: scoring was up, right, the drive start went from like

998
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 7: the twenty five to almost the thirty. Touchdowns were off

999
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 7: field goals were off points per game, points per drive.

1000
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 7: That was all up, and the injury data was it

1001
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 7: was the lowest. Twenty twenty four was the fewest concussions

1002
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 7: they've had, you know, ever that you know, in recent memories,

1003
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 7: since they've been really recording them the way they're doing now.

1004
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 7: So they said, okay, we're going to make it permanent

1005
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 7: and let's let's increase the rens. So with the two things,

1006
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 7: they said, move the kicker back to the thirty and

1007
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 7: or move the touch back to the thirty five, And

1008
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 7: they decided to just go with the touchback. And you know,

1009
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 7: through week one it's over seventy percent. That's a huge jump.

1010
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 7: I mean, that's back to the numbers back in the

1011
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 7: day when the kick return was a big part of

1012
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 7: the game. So, you know, I think they'll see, you know,

1013
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 7: look at it another year and if they want to

1014
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 7: the numbers are all positive, maybe they keep it as

1015
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 7: is or but the thirty was definitely in the conversation,

1016
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 7: but they decided not to do it this year.

1017
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: It's Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

1018
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: I was just gonna mention on the kickoff. It seems

1019
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: like every off season we're having a discussion about a

1020
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: new tweak or change to the kickoff. Do you and

1021
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: I hope they never get rid of it because I

1022
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: think it's how you start games. I think it's it

1023
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: is football to me. That's how you know a game

1024
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: is about to go, it's about to kick off. Could

1025
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: you ever envision a world though, to where they just say, hey,

1026
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: you know what is it? How much do we really

1027
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: need this and let's just let's go ahead and just

1028
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: move on from it. Do you think that that that's

1029
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: been kicked around or is there been discussions about do

1030
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: you just get rid of it altogether? I hope that

1031
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: never happens. But could you see the league overreacting to

1032
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: a point to where they make that move.

1033
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 7: Well, it was getting close prior to this change, It

1034
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 7: really was. There was a lot of people that were

1035
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 7: just like, hey, the injuries, it's so much higher than

1036
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 7: other plays, you know, play some scrimmage things like that.

1037
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 7: So let's just put the ball in twenty five and go,

1038
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 7: or pick a pickyard line and go. But I think

1039
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 7: with this change, and this was a drastic change, I mean,

1040
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 7: think about it. This is like people look at this.

1041
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 7: I mean, we did this in the XFL. I was

1042
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 7: a part of that back in twenty twenty, and it's different.

1043
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 7: I mean, and so there was some you know, some

1044
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 7: kind of hesitation in terms of do we want to

1045
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 7: make this type of change. But to your point, Jonas,

1046
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 7: it's like they wanted to save the play ultimately, because

1047
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 7: it is it's part of the fabric of the game.

1048
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 7: I mean, we use kickoff all the time as NFL kickoff,

1049
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 7: and that's how the game starts. And the most exciting

1050
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 7: play I ever saw live, one of the most exciting

1051
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: plays was was Devin Hester returning the opening kickoff in

1052
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. I mean that's and so I think

1053
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: ultimately they wanted to save the play. And I think

1054
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 7: this has I can't see where the injuries are. I

1055
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 7: can't see it, you know, all of a sudden, just

1056
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 7: going going to a level where the health and safety

1057
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 7: and then people get together and say we got to

1058
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 7: get rid of it. So I think they have saved

1059
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 7: the play.

1060
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: Dean. You watch the games from a different level, a

1061
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: different understanding. I wonder what were you seeing during the

1062
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 3: games that you know you put into your notes, like, oh,

1063
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: that's something to focus in on, that's something to discuss

1064
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: that maybe us that don't have the same eye of

1065
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 3: looking at the game the way you're looking at it

1066
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: would would be able to see.

1067
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 7: Yeah. For me, you know, I always and and I

1068
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 7: think you guys probably know this as well. Like the

1069
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 7: first couple of weeks, it's the football not great, like

1070
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 7: like and I think not great meaning.

1071
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: You're right, you know when you're.

1072
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 7: When you're talking about how when we get into like

1073
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 7: we gate nine. Now now this is like we're playing

1074
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 7: NFL football and everybody's kind of everybody's kind of you know,

1075
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 7: firing on all cylinders. But it's like nobody plays in

1076
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 7: the preseason, right, So and it's and so what I

1077
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 7: see you're going you see a lot of like formation stuff.

1078
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: You see a lot of pre snab penalties and things

1079
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 7: like that, and they the things they got to clean

1080
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 7: it up. I mean I did. We did the Washington

1081
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 7: Giants game on on Sunday, and there was just a

1082
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 7: lot of stuff that that, you know, and these guys

1083
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 7: aren't playing together as much. You know, practice is practice,

1084
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 7: but you can't simulate that that that real game feel

1085
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 7: and speed and everything else. So it's just you know,

1086
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Speaker 7: and last year was was there there were six pre

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Speaker 7: snap penalty like formations and false starts and offside those

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 7: types of things, six per game, which was the most

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Speaker 7: since two thousand and five. So it's just cleaning that

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Speaker 7: stuff up. So you notice a lot of it, and

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Speaker 7: some of it is just officials don't don't call. So

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Speaker 7: even for the officials, you're kind of they're not in

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Speaker 7: mid season form. So it's just like that that type.

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Speaker 7: The first couple of weeks, it's just almost like extended preseason.

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Speaker 4: Dean, I'm gonna ask you a serious question. Nope, sorry,

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Speaker 4: go ah.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I just say I totally agree with that,

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Speaker 3: but go gook you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a serious question. It's one that I think

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Speaker 4: needs to be answered.

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Speaker 5: We're seeing a lot of dildos being thrown on the courts.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at what point, Dean, is this thing get

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Speaker 4: out of hand? The song gets.

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Speaker 5: Struck by one or like what's the punishment? How's that

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 5: going to handle this? Are the officials who's supposed to

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Speaker 5: pick it up? Do you pick it up by the end?

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Speaker 5: Like which end you pick it up?

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Speaker 3: These?

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Speaker 7: I always know when Brady says this is a serious question,

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Speaker 7: how I'm serious it's going to be. But there is

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Speaker 7: there is a there is a dedicated official on each

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Speaker 7: crew that is responsible for the dildo. It's not it's

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Speaker 7: not the same position per crew. They'll they'll dedicate whoever

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Speaker 7: it is. Okay, you know, Tony, it's you today, and

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Speaker 7: uh and yeah, I mean to me, I think you

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Speaker 7: pick it up by the shaft. I think that's just me.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point. That's a good point.

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Speaker 7: If you're gonna throw it to you know, whoever it

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Speaker 7: is that the ball, the ball boy, whoever it is.

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Speaker 7: You know, no pun intended. You want to just you

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Speaker 7: want to, you know, kind of get a shaft.

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Speaker 3: Now, oh god, exactly, you brought it up right now,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Dean, do you do you look at somebody

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Speaker 2: differently if they volunteer to be the guy to go

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Speaker 2: pick up the dildo on the crew.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you definitely you definitely. Like those guys are like,

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Speaker 7: you know, the crew the officials are. Those crews travel

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Speaker 7: together every week and they're together that that's like your

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Speaker 7: fan family, you know, your extended family. So you start

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Speaker 7: to learn things about people what they do behind closed doors,

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Speaker 7: and sometimes.

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Speaker 2: It's not pretty.

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Speaker 4: I told you we have a lot of fund that's

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Speaker 4: really good.

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Speaker 2: Get him on a.

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Speaker 3: Does that ever travel to to the NFL Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame as as like, you know, first object of its

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Speaker 3: kind to venture onto the field?

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Speaker 7: It's yeah, I mean it's we're seeing it. I think

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Speaker 7: the w n b A had a little problem more

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Speaker 7: so than the NFL. But man, it's I don't know what.

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Speaker 7: The goo goes to a game and brings a Dilda

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Speaker 7: like I got mine, like you got your, you got

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Speaker 7: your I d you got your You know that you

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Speaker 7: got the bill though.

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Speaker 3: Yet we can't forget that.

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Speaker 4: What a wild time to be alive.

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Speaker 2: Huh oh my god.

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Speaker 5: You're the best. I had some other questions for you,

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Speaker 5: but we don't have enough time.

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Speaker 2: So uh he is Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and

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Speaker 2: College Football rules analyst. Always appreciate a few minutes of

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Speaker 2: your time. This is going to be a fun ride

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Speaker 2: this year, Dean. Thanks man, you got it, guys, everybody, Sir.

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Speaker 5: I said, I said, hey, when if you want to

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Speaker 5: come on, just know we're going to ask a few

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Speaker 5: questions about the rules, and then we don't want we

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Speaker 5: don't want our listeners to get like bored, so we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have some fun.