Speaker 1: Two on the move Darling deep speedways, Peace do hell.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 1: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 2: He's got my add hands in the playoffs. What is up,
Speaker 2: Dolphans And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast. I am
Speaker 2: your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, it is
Speaker 2: RAMS Preview Day, a big Monday night football showdown, and
Speaker 2: we desperately need a win. Let's go ahead and get
Speaker 2: into the matchup because I have a lot for you guys.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about this football team for the first time
Speaker 2: in about a month and a half. Let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and jump right in. From the Baptist Health Studios inside
Speaker 2: the Baptist Health Training Complex, this is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey Daffy, we didn't make the Week ten picks just yet,
Speaker 2: but also your boys still rolling on the picks this year.
Speaker 2: I went believe it was eleven and four, pulling it
Speaker 2: up right now eleven and four in week nine. That
Speaker 2: brings us to one oh two and thirty six on
Speaker 2: the season. And we'll have the rest of the picks
Speaker 2: for you guys on tomorrow's episode, which also features an
Speaker 2: extended interview with the Great Kyle Krabs, which is also
Speaker 2: available for you tonight on Dolphins HQ. At least part
Speaker 2: of that, we talked about a lot of stuff about
Speaker 2: this Dolphins team and kind of followed on the theme
Speaker 2: this week that I've had with talking about the rest
Speaker 2: of this season, but also what's next down the line
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins in the near future. So for the
Speaker 2: picks tonight, we finally get a good Thursday night football
Speaker 2: game again, which is awesome, and I'm taking the Ravens
Speaker 2: over the Bengals. I just think this is the Ravens year.
Speaker 2: I think they play their stinkers against lesser teams and
Speaker 2: get losses that way. I think they will show up
Speaker 2: in a big way and destroy a very bad Bengals
Speaker 2: defense with Lamar and Joe Burrows.
Speaker 1: That's the pick for Thursday Night.
Speaker 2: And you kind of want the Ravens to win if
Speaker 2: you still believe the Dolphins can go on a run,
Speaker 2: because we need teams like the Bengals, the Steelers, the Chargers,
Speaker 2: the Jets, the Broncos. At the Broncos stink, Bet Colts.
Speaker 2: Colts kind of stink too. You need those teams to
Speaker 2: lose games, so you can get yourself back to the
Speaker 2: end of the race at ten and seven, and you
Speaker 2: probably won't have our many tiebreakers because we lost a
Speaker 2: lot of games against the AFC over the first half
Speaker 2: of the season.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and talk Dolphins and Rams. It's an
Speaker 2: eight to fifteen kickoff. That means it's Monday night football
Speaker 2: from SOFI Stadium in Los Angeles. Can the Dolphins get
Speaker 2: over their primetime woes, their primetime hump, which is another
Speaker 2: I guess hurdle for this team to overcome amid many
Speaker 2: hurdles they have to overcome down the stretch.
Speaker 1: So the Rams intro.
Speaker 2: We last played these dudes when they had the quarterback
Speaker 2: from the NFC's current number one seed, and we got
Speaker 2: after Jared Goff that day. That's where we'll pick up
Speaker 2: the changes to the Rams, because yes, they they do
Speaker 2: have the same head coach dating back to twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: but they hit the current iteration of their team around
Speaker 2: that twenty twenty one season, Matthew Stafford's first year. There
Speaker 2: also the year they hoisted a Lombardi Trophy. And shoot,
Speaker 2: the Rams are actually a great example of the segment
Speaker 2: I did to close Yesterday's show in twenty seventeen eleven
Speaker 2: and five in a wildcard playoff loss, twenty eighteen, thirteen
Speaker 2: and three, Super Bowl loss twenty nineteen, nine and seven,
Speaker 2: and missed the playoffs altogether, then a ten and six
Speaker 2: divisional round loss, a twelve and five Super Bowl championship
Speaker 2: after changing quarterbacks, a five and twelve year after that
Speaker 2: when the quarterback misses most of the season, and then
Speaker 2: last year kind of a similar start to that they
Speaker 2: had to this year, but they got back, got back
Speaker 2: on things and went won ten games and including or
Speaker 2: lost in the wildcard round, I should say. And then
Speaker 2: this year they had serious injuries across the offense, like
Speaker 2: multiple offensive linemen at the same position going down, their
Speaker 2: top two receivers going down. They get the playmakers back
Speaker 2: the offensive line, We'll see what it looks like comes
Speaker 2: Monday night. But getting those guys back, they won three
Speaker 2: straight games and are now four and four, and it's
Speaker 2: been a pivot in terms of their approach to team building.
Speaker 2: For the Rams, they were the original F them picks team, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Less Sneed has a mug on
Speaker 2: his desk somewhere that says F THEMN picks they didn't
Speaker 2: pick in the first round from twenty seventeen to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, via trades to go up to get Jared
Speaker 2: Goff in twenty sixteen, a trade for Brandon Cooks in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, traded out in twenty nineteen. They traded a
Speaker 2: first round pick for Jayalen Ramsey in twenty twenty, and
Speaker 2: I believe twenty one as well, and then twenty two
Speaker 2: and twenty three they gave up those picks for Matthew
Speaker 2: Stafford and now their twenty twenty four first rounder is
Speaker 2: probably the front runner at the midway point for defensive
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. And that's part of their pivot,
Speaker 2: the part of the pivot for their build, and it's
Speaker 2: not that far from us. They have established franchise cornerstones
Speaker 2: at key parts like quarterback, two ride receivers, and really
Speaker 2: three because two to Atwells a baller, they get a
Speaker 2: great fit for the run scheme in Kyron Williams, and
Speaker 2: they prioritize tackle play over interior play. But the real
Speaker 2: difference is they pivoted the last couple of years, which
Speaker 2: is an uncommon trait for Shanahan Tree offense is sinking
Speaker 2: resources into the guard position in a second round draft
Speaker 2: pick in Steve Avila and a massive free agent contract
Speaker 2: to Jonah Jackson. Both of those guys have been down
Speaker 2: most of the season and just had their practice windows
Speaker 2: opened up. For what it's worth, we'll see if they
Speaker 2: play Monday night. Sean mcvace, how they have a chance
Speaker 2: to play in the game against Miami. The defense was,
Speaker 2: in all honesty, kind of a brilliant plan where it
Speaker 2: sort of was a soft rebuild on that side of
Speaker 2: the football, and they just loaded up that side with
Speaker 2: forty No, it wasn't forty rookies on defense, that was
Speaker 2: a total number.
Speaker 1: They had twenty six.
Speaker 2: Udfas last year and fourteen draft picks and a healthy
Speaker 2: chunk of that was on the defensive side. And through
Speaker 2: that they uncover Kobe Turner, they get Puka Nakua, and
Speaker 2: they also have developed some solid role players from that
Speaker 2: group as well. And that's the beauty of continuity with
Speaker 2: their scheme is it's easier to identify what you need
Speaker 2: and how to develop that a post to the perpetual
Speaker 2: cycle of resets that we've seen so many NFL teams
Speaker 2: enact over the last several years, and the Dolphins are
Speaker 2: the forefront of that, right when you have systems in
Speaker 2: place and continuity in place. And I know they replace
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator with Chrishula taking over for ahe Morris,
Speaker 2: who've got a head coaching job this offseason. I get that,
Speaker 2: but it was a similar scheme as we'll talk about
Speaker 2: here as we go forward, and Morris was a continuation
Speaker 2: of the stay scheme previous to that.
Speaker 1: So I think there's something to that.
Speaker 2: I hope that Anthony Weaver's here for a long time
Speaker 2: and they develop someone under his wing to continue that,
Speaker 2: because I think that you can be the best version
Speaker 2: of your program when you have that continuity in terms
Speaker 2: of the way you see things. Because that continuity between
Speaker 2: general manager and head coach and assistant coaches, it all jives,
Speaker 2: it all works together. It's the Patty's Bucks, right. The
Speaker 2: money keeps going in circles, It keeps the economy going.
Speaker 2: Just don't take your financial advice from Dennis Reynolds and
Speaker 2: Ronald McDonald. So that's how they got here. They go
Speaker 2: four and four, they're a half game back in the
Speaker 2: NFC West. They're fresh off and emotional victory in overtime
Speaker 2: on the road against their biggest division rivals, which if
Speaker 2: you are watching the team you're playing the following week,
Speaker 2: that is the exact result you want. It's typically tough
Speaker 2: to come back from a game like that and get
Speaker 2: back up for a game against a team across the
Speaker 2: conference that doesn't really impact your standings as much as
Speaker 2: a game in your division does. And it's opposite of
Speaker 2: us because we just lost that exact same game on
Speaker 2: the road against a tough division rival, in a game
Speaker 2: that kind of could have kept our season really alive
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Even with that trend, it doesn't matter much without the
Speaker 2: x's and o's. So let's go ahead and dive into
Speaker 2: that Rams offense. From a schematic standpoint, you have one
Speaker 2: of the best play sequencers in the NFL calling plays
Speaker 2: for one of the one of the game's top players
Speaker 2: at the position, especially in terms of anticipation, the way
Speaker 2: he sees the field and playing ahead of schedule on
Speaker 2: the defense.
Speaker 1: It's still a.
Speaker 2: Lot of the same principles that made him kind of
Speaker 2: the first boy genius of the way of many boy
Speaker 2: geniuses as coaches. Right Sean McVeigh, the sub forty head
Speaker 2: coach with a fresh look at how to move the football.
Speaker 2: He was eleven personnel exclusive coming into the league, but
Speaker 2: that came as a result of drafting Cooper Cup because
Speaker 2: the great Jordan rod Reeg from The Athletic had talked
Speaker 2: about this. I believe on the Heat the Call podcast
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, they drafted Gerald Everett twenty five
Speaker 2: picks ahead of Cooper Cup after drafting Tyler Higbee in
Speaker 2: the fourth round the year prior, and the plan was
Speaker 2: to be a twelve heavy based offense and the only
Speaker 2: way to get their sensational rookie receiver on the field
Speaker 2: was to run more eleven personnel, so they adapted accordingly,
Speaker 2: and I think this defines their entire offense. They've dressed
Speaker 2: up their core concepts to adjust to the personnel that
Speaker 2: they have, and at this stage, the freedom of having
Speaker 2: high draft picks again and a clear defined picture of
Speaker 2: what they want on offense, McVeigh doesn't have to do
Speaker 2: much adjusting, but rather round out the offense with the
Speaker 2: pieces that he wants for it. And that's why I
Speaker 2: want to find one of these great coaches. And I
Speaker 2: think that aside from a five game run, or whatever
Speaker 2: it was to open the year. I think that's where
Speaker 2: McDaniel was and is and can be hopefully. I think
Speaker 2: that we're on the right track to getting back to that,
Speaker 2: and that's what I want. I want to have a
Speaker 2: guy here for twenty years that can, you know, whether
Speaker 2: the storms and continue to build his program. They run
Speaker 2: eleven personnel this year eighty two percent of the time,
Speaker 2: and again that's Coop Cooper cup Nikua and two to
Speaker 2: two at will. That's what they should be playing because
Speaker 2: those really good players. They run twelve personnel seventeen percent
Speaker 2: of the time and then thirteen personnel zero point six
Speaker 2: percent of the time, and that's like the breadth of
Speaker 2: their entire offensive operation.
Speaker 1: But the way they.
Speaker 2: Operate damn near everything from condensed formations. I'll never forget
Speaker 2: asking Brian Flores about a team that runs most of
Speaker 2: their formations all into the numbers, and he was.
Speaker 1: Like, didn't want to give me an answer to that.
Speaker 2: Nobody has a tighter pre snap split in terms of
Speaker 2: those ones to either side being in close on the
Speaker 2: inside part of the numbers on the field than the
Speaker 2: LA Rams. But when they've had their biggest pivot or
Speaker 2: where they've had their biggest pivot I should say from
Speaker 2: other Shanahan style offenses is they run a lot of
Speaker 2: gap scheme. In fact, they've tilted in favor of gap,
Speaker 2: albeit a small favor ninety six gap scheme to ninety
Speaker 2: zone runs. And comparatively, the other teams in that tree,
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, it's one ten zone to eighty two man.
Speaker 2: The Niners is crazy tilted one forty five zone to
Speaker 2: fifty one man scheme runs, the Packers one thirty nine
Speaker 2: to one oh five in favor of zone. In fact,
Speaker 2: all these teams are in favor of zone one oh
Speaker 2: seven to seventy two for the Vikings and then eighty
Speaker 2: nine to eighty two for the Bengals, which is funny,
Speaker 2: that's that close because he is a Shannon, or rather
Speaker 2: a McVeigh offshoot from the Rams tree, not so much
Speaker 2: the the Shanahan tree from the Washington days. Right, it's
Speaker 2: all cyclical. The money keeps moving in circles, in circles,
Speaker 2: Patty's Bucks. Get these shafty tens out of my street
Speaker 2: in front of Patty's Pub. In fact, and this is
Speaker 2: a bit of conjecture, but I think it would be
Speaker 2: more heavily tilted for the Rams if they were just healthier.
Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, they invested high resources into Steve Avila,
Speaker 2: who I freaking love his game from TCU. Jonah Jackson
Speaker 2: thought he was a big overpay and Kevin Dottson Inside
Speaker 2: a player they traded for last year and gave a
Speaker 2: contract extension too because he played well enough to get that.
Speaker 2: And those guys, if you can bind for thirteen miss
Speaker 2: games this year, and the backups at those positions have
Speaker 2: also missed games. So you see him like practice squad guys,
Speaker 2: street free agents player for this Frams offensive line, and
Speaker 2: of course we draw them when we are at our
Speaker 2: most banged up. If we could have gotten some of
Speaker 2: these teams at different at various points of the season,
Speaker 2: and if we had you know, lost tu for a
Speaker 2: more difficult stretch run of the season, like if we
Speaker 2: lost two of for like Cardinals, Bills, Rams and Raiders
Speaker 2: and went one on three in that stretch and then
Speaker 2: wiped the floor with the Seahawks, Titans and Colts. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it just comes down to luck and when you have
Speaker 2: guys available versus when you don't, who you play and
Speaker 2: when you play them. So that's my frustration they're gonna
Speaker 2: get Joe Noteboom back at right tackle. I imagine he
Speaker 2: slots into that position because Rob Havenstein will miss the
Speaker 2: game according to Sean McVay. So if they don't get
Speaker 2: a Villa and Jackson back, you could be talking about
Speaker 2: a line that is still down four of the original
Speaker 2: five opening day starters or at least two of them.
Speaker 2: And either way, they're going to have to kind of
Speaker 2: build continuity in the fly because they're going to be
Speaker 2: a new offensive line combination almost no matter what happens
Speaker 2: throughout the course of practice this week.
Speaker 1: How do you attack it?
Speaker 2: The best way to shut this run game down is
Speaker 2: to put relentless pressure on the edge. In every single
Speaker 2: sense of the way attack. They're nasty splits. And it's
Speaker 2: not oh again, you got a big old nasty so
Speaker 2: and so from eastbound and down. I'm talking about nasty splits,
Speaker 2: meaning your alignment is tight to the tight end, like
Speaker 2: a receiver who lines up one gap off the tight end.
Speaker 1: That's a nasty split.
Speaker 2: When you bunch in tight to the formation, that is
Speaker 2: what is termed a nasty split. I know it sounds weird.
Speaker 2: Sometimes football terms are weird, but that's what it's called
Speaker 2: and then condensed formations. You have to attack it with physicality. Basically,
Speaker 2: you need to play on their side of the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage and don't allow them to get up field
Speaker 2: and your outside shoulder and hook you back inside and
Speaker 2: win the edge. And you have to pressure the bootlegs
Speaker 2: in the misdirection game with that same upfield pressure. So
Speaker 2: you need to basically create a wall on the outside
Speaker 2: of the tackle box that the defensive that the defensive
Speaker 2: end can kind of play up and down and turn
Speaker 2: things back inside into your linebackers into a beef of
Speaker 2: your defensive line. Think about how Ogbah pursued that Josh
Speaker 2: Allen quarterback sweep last week where he attacked upfield with
Speaker 2: width and strung that thing out and got the tackle
Speaker 2: on it. Wish we could have done that to Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray and won that football game, But I digress. You'll
Speaker 2: have that on Stafford too, And the best part is
Speaker 2: you can actually get Stafford to the ground sometimes opposed
Speaker 2: to Alan and Murray, who are just two of the
Speaker 2: hardest quarterbacks to sack in this league, and for completely
Speaker 2: different reasons, like it's hilarious, how it's you know, Murray
Speaker 2: kind of has that like where he runs away from
Speaker 2: you and Josh Allen's just like big strong boy can't
Speaker 2: bring me down. And so spoiler, one of our keys
Speaker 2: will be generate pressure with four and that that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean never blitzing as we've seen. But you know, Weaver
Speaker 2: does a good job with sim pressures and bringing just four,
Speaker 2: but doing it from those sim pressure looks where I
Speaker 2: can have six in the rush count and I can
Speaker 2: back two off of one side and force a left
Speaker 2: tackle to have no work and overload one side with
Speaker 2: pressure and replace that with my zones on the back
Speaker 2: end and coverage, and you have the same coverage principles
Speaker 2: and hopefully a similar confused protection scheme despite sending two
Speaker 2: less rushers.
Speaker 1: That's the idea.
Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks kind of gave you a blueprint,
Speaker 2: which is fitting, isn't it, because they got Mike McDonald
Speaker 2: there and then us in consecutive weeks. It's two pillars
Speaker 2: of the former Ravens defense the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: which was the best defense in the league at shutting
Speaker 2: down these Shanahan based offenses.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the.
Speaker 2: Best traits of those defenses is the ability to run
Speaker 2: different fronts, And I'm reading the Seahawks postgame dispatch from
Speaker 2: some of my favorite Seahawks writers about how they were
Speaker 2: able to limit the rams to thirteen points offensively in regulation,
Speaker 2: and it was a major adjustment to more bear tight
Speaker 2: and double eagle fronts, and without getting two in depth
Speaker 2: on that, it essentially gets five men down on the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage in various ways. A bear front will
Speaker 2: have a two to a zero and a two technique
Speaker 2: that is going to be head up over the guard,
Speaker 2: center and guard.
Speaker 1: It's a very I mean, we have a tight front,
Speaker 1: but it's called bear. It's very tight.
Speaker 2: You really pack in those those gaps inside, and then
Speaker 2: the edges are walked down off the edge of the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage where tight goes zero technique, double two
Speaker 2: eye technique even tighter, and then double four eye techniques,
Speaker 2: which is inside the shoulder of the tackle. So you're
Speaker 2: playing basically five guys to four gaps on the interior
Speaker 2: run game. And then double eagle just moves those edges
Speaker 2: back outside the tackle to get you into the sea
Speaker 2: gaps on either side. And that's the only real difference
Speaker 2: between double eagle and bear. So either way it's putting
Speaker 2: your beef upfront on the offense on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: And what does it do.
Speaker 2: It allows you to get a hat in every gap
Speaker 2: against man's scheme and makes doubles and catching climbs tougher
Speaker 2: to sift through for their zone schemes. But it does
Speaker 2: open up some more of the edge and the running game.
Speaker 2: But I think that's the play because of their run
Speaker 2: scheme being more inside zone and duo based, which are
Speaker 2: similar types of running. It looks similar on tape if
Speaker 2: you don't know what to look for, and they do
Speaker 2: have the ability to get their wide runs from those
Speaker 2: inside zone and duo looks, as well as run the
Speaker 2: toss runs where they toss it to the back and
Speaker 2: he winds that track and then winds it back inside
Speaker 2: to sell the outside location and take the track back inside.
Speaker 1: Are you confused yet? I hope you are.
Speaker 2: Let's keep it rolling on the other side here, picking
Speaker 2: up with the Big Three versus the Rams offense, and
Speaker 2: then we'll turn the page and talk about the Rams
Speaker 2: defense against Tua and the Dolphins offense. That's all next
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Speaker 2: by I donation. We went pretty in depth there on
Speaker 2: the scheme and how to attack it. So these portions
Speaker 2: will be shorter, and the Big Three starts with playing
Speaker 2: big upfront with emphasis on gap control. And I think
Speaker 2: this is the type of offense that you hire in
Speaker 2: Anthony Weaver four. And by that I'm I mean his
Speaker 2: ability to adjust with multiplicity upfront. I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: get Zach Seeler back this week, and I think you
Speaker 2: could make a case that his absence the last two
Speaker 2: weeks might have been worth the one and three point
Speaker 2: losses that you endured, but nothing we can do about
Speaker 2: that now.
Speaker 1: And returning in this game.
Speaker 2: I think gives you what you need to be able
Speaker 2: to control things enough upfront to get enough stops. And
Speaker 2: I guess I should just clarify I was told that
Speaker 2: he will play, so hopefully that is the case. It's
Speaker 2: tough to forecast this without knowing who will play against Seattle.
Speaker 2: It was Alaric Jackson, Justin de Dick d Ditch, Sorry,
Speaker 2: Bo Limmer, Kevin Dotson, and Rob Havenstein. Now Havenstein's gonna
Speaker 2: miss the game. According to McVeigh and Joe Noteboom jumps
Speaker 2: back in at right tackle, which is where he was
Speaker 2: going to start the year. They have had Warren McLendon
Speaker 2: in that spot, but he's not. He's not really doing
Speaker 2: the job so to speak. On opening day it was
Speaker 2: note Boom at left tackle, a Villa jack Jonah Jackson, Dotson, McClendon,
Speaker 2: and Havnstein was out then too, so he's missed some
Speaker 2: time all year long.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Jackson has never played center at this level, so I
Speaker 2: think if he does return for the rookie Limmer, who
Speaker 2: has played well, I think it's fair to think there
Speaker 2: could be some growing pains to get things sorted out
Speaker 2: against your rush games, to get your protections against those
Speaker 2: four man sim pressures, and maybe even the center and
Speaker 2: quarterback exchange. Maybe somebody else can lose a damn quarterback
Speaker 2: center exchange besides us for once and do it against us.
Speaker 2: So rather than trying to decide for the matchups I
Speaker 2: like the most, I think this is the key. You're
Speaker 2: going to likely have a new combination of offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: In fact, you definitely will because Noboom hasn't played right
Speaker 2: tackle this year, and we get we have veterans that
Speaker 2: execute rush games, stunts and slants and twists so well
Speaker 2: to the point that I think it's a great matchup
Speaker 2: for both Zach and kalais inside and then off the edge.
Speaker 2: You know, I think we saw chops speed show up
Speaker 2: a few times, but it was his speed to power
Speaker 2: that gave Dion Dawkins the most problems. I don't think
Speaker 2: Alaric jackson Is can be bothered by that, though, because
Speaker 2: he has been really good in the running game, and
Speaker 2: he seems to have a pretty good understanding for how
Speaker 2: guys want to set him up in pass rush, and
Speaker 2: I just don't think CHOP's there yet to get a
Speaker 2: guy like him exposed. It is a fun matchup. I
Speaker 2: think the keys here are playing a line that looks
Speaker 2: like some version of Seiler, Campbell, Ogba and Bowser with shoot.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: I guess Chop pass to factor in there somewhere, because
Speaker 2: who else is it going to be?
Speaker 1: I mean, Quintin.
Speaker 2: Bell, no, uh, Duke Riley like you, You're you're digging
Speaker 2: into that part of your edge edge depth here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you want to go big, big pieces, and
Speaker 2: maybe you sacrifice some in the individual pass rush flexibility.
Speaker 2: But Seeler and Campbell can play off the those are
Speaker 2: all edge players, so I don't really know exactly what
Speaker 2: it looks like. But I think all those guys have
Speaker 2: to play a lot in this game. I think you
Speaker 2: have to get knocked back and reset the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage and force the back to bubble and change tracks,
Speaker 2: because if you put pressure on the perimeter of the
Speaker 2: pocket and the quarterback stays inside, you can get some
Speaker 2: pass rush that way, just by basically hemming him in
Speaker 2: and not letting him do all the you know, the shortstop,
Speaker 2: drop the arm, angle and the elbow and throw those
Speaker 2: balls off the side of his hip like a freaking
Speaker 2: gun slinger. He is so impressive and so tough to stop.
Speaker 2: Number two in my Big three is attacking the point
Speaker 2: of attack against the eligibles off the edge. We can
Speaker 2: keep this brief because I touched down it already, but
Speaker 2: I think you have to play wide from this spot
Speaker 2: and trust the interior can win one on ones and
Speaker 2: hold the point of attack against doubles to free up
Speaker 2: those linebackers to run and hit. But I really I
Speaker 2: look really strong here at Ogba and Bowser with important
Speaker 2: roles to kind of play into the tackle, reset them
Speaker 2: a step or two, keep that outside arm free, and
Speaker 2: just help funnel things back inside funnel to your help,
Speaker 2: Hopefully we tackle better this week at safety and everywhere
Speaker 2: in general, but mostly at safety. I think if you
Speaker 2: play with a combination of Brooks and then longer Walker,
Speaker 2: I think it might be more Walker this week because
Speaker 2: he's more suited to do this B gap to B
Speaker 2: gap stuff where you occasionally mug them up and show
Speaker 2: pressure and drop guys into coverage. And either way Walker
Speaker 2: and d Long it's not one of their game, Jordan
Speaker 2: Brooks more so. But the ability to get to the
Speaker 2: sideline for a guy like Jordan Brooks as well as
Speaker 2: play that interior gap pressure is a big deal. And
Speaker 2: if you can do that and win there and create
Speaker 2: some situations where you get them behind the it makes
Speaker 2: them have more true drop back passes, and that's where
Speaker 2: they really struggle. Like the pass block efficiency scores on
Speaker 2: true drop backs for them are all well below league average,
Speaker 2: So starters and backups let go after him.
Speaker 1: That way.
Speaker 2: If you get in third and Long, I think you
Speaker 2: can win this game pretty handily. The issue here is
Speaker 2: the screen game and the quick outside game, whether that's
Speaker 2: to the running back of the receivers, and they'll get
Speaker 2: Puka on some carries and screens as well, not to
Speaker 2: mention two to at Well, And that's where I think
Speaker 2: that Brooks has just this really tough task to sort
Speaker 2: of sort through the false keys they throw at him,
Speaker 2: but also be able to maintain that presence inside while
Speaker 2: getting to the perimeter when they do bring Atwell or
Speaker 2: Nakua around or they swing it to Williams in the
Speaker 2: passing game. I could see that putting more on Walker's
Speaker 2: plate too, given his ability in those B gap to
Speaker 2: B gap roles to play more of a downhill physical presence.
Speaker 2: My third thing is just to get pressure with four.
Speaker 2: You might have noticed we haven't really mentioned the passing
Speaker 2: game Stafford and those receivers or or cornerbacks, which kind
Speaker 2: of is the marquee matchup on this side of the ball.
Speaker 2: But I still in the trenches because their whole scheme
Speaker 2: is built off that running game, just like it is here.
Speaker 2: And why they really turn things around last year was
Speaker 2: discovering Kyron Williams's ability to do multiple things. And they prefer,
Speaker 2: you know, upfront and in the run game to tee
Speaker 2: up the passing game. And that's why they went heavy
Speaker 2: in the offseason after some big time offensive line a
Speaker 2: free agency and Jonah Jackson with the Estepa Villa pick
Speaker 2: two years ago. We'll see about Cater's availability, but I
Speaker 2: think regardless of it being him or Cam Smith, I
Speaker 2: think you still put Jalen Ramsey inside a lot, especially
Speaker 2: inside the numbers and in tight to those you know,
Speaker 2: nasty splits we talked about. They often don't even run
Speaker 2: receivers wide of the numbers. But I just want Ramsey
Speaker 2: to be involved as both like the naked boot blitzer
Speaker 2: when they want to pull Stafford back against the flow
Speaker 2: of the play off that backside as much as we
Speaker 2: possibly can and extend that track backwards, because I don't
Speaker 2: think that he can win that track the way Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson did, the way Kyler Murray did, the way Josh
Speaker 2: Allen often does, and just be a factor against the
Speaker 2: run well, because you have to have him go knock
Speaker 2: out a Colby Parkinson or a Cooper Cup in the
Speaker 2: blocking game, and they love to use that rap block.
Speaker 2: They love, love, love it, Like think about Julian Hill
Speaker 2: coming across the formation in motion and picking off the
Speaker 2: outside linebacker.
Speaker 1: The physicality. They run that stuff more than we do.
Speaker 1: They love it.
Speaker 2: I think the receiver's ability to block is a big strength,
Speaker 2: and I think we can really help disrupt that. And
Speaker 2: then after all of that, there's the passing game to
Speaker 2: contend with. It probably comes down to you really need
Speaker 2: Ramsey and Fuller to just play a really good football
Speaker 2: game against really good receivers. But the best way you
Speaker 2: can help them is to cause those issues up front
Speaker 2: with their lack of game experience. Together on the offensive line,
Speaker 2: game them to death with those different rush fronts, sim
Speaker 2: pressure them to death and force their protection to have
Speaker 2: guys blocking air. Make it so Joe Noteboom doesn't get
Speaker 2: communicated with his right guard and he's blocking nobody, and
Speaker 2: we have four on three on the other side of
Speaker 2: the offensive line, and for Stafford to throw into trail
Speaker 2: tech and funnels. As I do think this is a
Speaker 2: game where you could play more man coverage to force
Speaker 2: Stafford to hold the ball longer and not pick apart
Speaker 2: your zone coverages. Stafford's mobility is one of his best trades,
Speaker 2: but he's not going to run for big games, so
Speaker 2: you can play for man coverage. He wants to create
Speaker 2: to throw, which makes plastering all so difficult as well.
Speaker 2: Tough task this week man I didn't even mention DeMarcus Robinson,
Speaker 2: who caught the game winning touchdown on Sunday. Tyler Johnson
Speaker 2: made the big play when they were backed up in
Speaker 2: overtime on a ball that could have been picked off
Speaker 2: Colby Parkinson's a nice f piece for them, and old
Speaker 2: friend Hunter Long kind of plays the durham smythe role
Speaker 2: and plays it kind of similarly.
Speaker 1: It's a really good offense.
Speaker 2: Man. Let's go ahead and conclude with this. I don't
Speaker 2: like our chances on this side of the ball. I
Speaker 2: like the idea, the concept of going big and heavy
Speaker 2: upfront to try to create some situations where you can
Speaker 2: get stops based upon stopping their running game, and then
Speaker 2: hopefully they have miscues and protection or offensive penalties that
Speaker 2: get them behind the chains and force them two punt.
Speaker 2: But I think the only way we hold them under
Speaker 2: twenty eight points is if they enact those self inflicted
Speaker 2: wounds to put themselves in subpar drop back situations that
Speaker 2: they just can't handle. But I think they'll score plenty.
Speaker 2: Can we do enough on offense? We'll talk about that
Speaker 2: next to Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 2: to you by Auto Nation. We've covered the Rams offense
Speaker 2: against the Miami Dolphins defense. Let's go ahead and do
Speaker 2: an entire segment here on the Rams defense against two
Speaker 2: and the Dolphins offense. I didn't even get into the
Speaker 2: scheme and how to attack it here because I just
Speaker 2: think that the three big points are plenty enough to
Speaker 2: cover this here. And number one is to play connected
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, because I watched the Seahawks tape
Speaker 2: and their O line has struggled all year long. Help
Speaker 2: cut our tape against them and you'll see that rush
Speaker 2: games just breaking things down for them on a consistent basis.
Speaker 2: But regardless, that is a staple for the Rams offense.
Speaker 2: They love to spread things out in pass rush situations
Speaker 2: and then operate their games and hope to break your
Speaker 2: seals in protection. That's why I think you have to
Speaker 2: play connected on the offensive line, and luckily for us,
Speaker 2: Aaron Brewer has. And this might be a little bit hyperbolic.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been one out there somewhere, but I
Speaker 2: cannot recall a single time where he busted a game
Speaker 2: pick up on the film Slade is this year. He
Speaker 2: is so active, he's always finding work, and that continuity
Speaker 2: we've developed pays off in a game like this, I
Speaker 2: think we have the experience at the key spots to
Speaker 2: handle their best pass rushers in one on one situations.
Speaker 2: Jared Vers is awesome, but buddy, you get to Ron
Speaker 2: Armstead this week. Young Blood Byron Young has length, but
Speaker 2: I don't think has the quickness to get Austin Jackson
Speaker 2: in the area where he has struggled, which is set over,
Speaker 2: set upfield, stab cross step, sorry, stab upfield, cross step
Speaker 2: over back inside and force him to redirect and he
Speaker 2: can kind of get back on his heels that way.
Speaker 2: I like both of our tackles to be able to
Speaker 2: handle protection slide ISOs where they draw the edge one
Speaker 2: on one, and that will allow us to really clamp
Speaker 2: inside against a pretty good interior with Kobe Turner and
Speaker 2: with Braden Fisk the other rookie they're inside that played
Speaker 2: with Jared Vers last year. But I think those guys
Speaker 2: are all playing one on two since you might get
Speaker 2: the ops against either Liam or Rob Jones here and there,
Speaker 2: but you're gonna wind up getting help from my favorite
Speaker 2: center of the entire AFC, as Brewer just tends to
Speaker 2: find himself a rack of ribs and put those rushers
Speaker 2: on their backside. I think we can play another clean
Speaker 2: pass protection game in the sense in that sense, which
Speaker 2: typically leads to high offensive totals. They also love to
Speaker 2: kick Verse inside as a nosebacker to try to maximize confusion,
Speaker 2: and I'm curious if they'll do that in rundowns too,
Speaker 2: because that is the best way I take away Brewer's
Speaker 2: best Trait just cover him up with a zero technique
Speaker 2: and try to remove his athletic ability. But that creates
Speaker 2: vulnerabilities off the edge, which we can exploit as well
Speaker 2: with really good outside zone runners in both Raheem Moster
Speaker 2: and Debon h Chan and quite frankly Jalen Wright as well.
Speaker 2: So watch for the runway shortening quickset by Tron Armstead.
Speaker 2: It's his best move, and I think it thwarts what
Speaker 2: Jared Vers does best by rushing from that wide nine
Speaker 2: alignment where he can utilize space to get you leaning
Speaker 2: and then use the combination of his quickness, his power
Speaker 2: and his pass rush arsenal because he's so polished to
Speaker 2: get you off balance and use that against you. But
Speaker 2: to Ron Armstead so good at shortening that runway and
Speaker 2: forcing you to win in a foam booth against him,
Speaker 2: which he's tough to do that against. I just want
Speaker 2: to mention one other player real quick. Michael Hoyt stood
Speaker 2: out on tape watching these guys. He plays with good
Speaker 2: pace and recognition to take away angles off the edge
Speaker 2: both in the run and pass game. I think it's
Speaker 2: important for the tight ends to be physical with him,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I hate that matchup of him on
Speaker 2: durham smyth Number two is to incorporate motions in similar
Speaker 2: fashion for both the run in the pass game. We
Speaker 2: know this is a high volume motion offense, and I
Speaker 2: think you lean even heavier into that this week with
Speaker 2: how they want to play, They're going to use the
Speaker 2: blueprint of pass iterations of the Brandon Staley Raheem Morris
Speaker 2: to now Chris Shula defense, who does enough of the
Speaker 2: same principles for this defense to look similar to pass coordinators,
Speaker 2: and that means pressing up trying to disrupt timing on
Speaker 2: the perimeter. But you can really mess with that with
Speaker 2: your motion game, especially if you can get your run
Speaker 2: and pass looks off the same motion looks. I think
Speaker 2: you can invite their wide spacing inside and incorporate your
Speaker 2: athletic ability up front to a tack that second level
Speaker 2: and get you know the bang and bend back lanes
Speaker 2: where you stretch it out wide and then you bang
Speaker 2: it up off the sea gap or bend it back
Speaker 2: into the the you know, the opposite a gap and
Speaker 2: create that overflow and then go back against the grain
Speaker 2: on the inside run game, while also keeping their rushers thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, thinking opposed to playing fast and upfield to
Speaker 2: generate a good deal of those immediate throws where they
Speaker 2: just can't get after the quarterback. I actually think you
Speaker 2: kind of have an opportunity for a converse game script
Speaker 2: from last week where we ran and through short game
Speaker 2: to open up the intermedia and deep passing game. I
Speaker 2: believe all of Tua's twenty plus yard throws came in
Speaker 2: the second half of that game, if I'm not mistaken. I
Speaker 2: think you can soften them up with some of those
Speaker 2: hook throws, some of those digs and glances as they
Speaker 2: try to run sim pressures and cover the hooks with
Speaker 2: backers who were mugged up and already at a disadvantage
Speaker 2: to get their depth in those positions. I mentioned Michael Hoyt.
Speaker 2: He does some of the same stuff that Ernest Jones
Speaker 2: did for them last year, where he would rush the
Speaker 2: edge but also play like an off ball linebacker position,
Speaker 2: and their nickel and their nickel packages to kind of
Speaker 2: look like Andrew Van Ginkle in some senses. But I
Speaker 2: think this is a game where you can push the
Speaker 2: shell back just with the presence of Reek and Waddle
Speaker 2: and hit some of those longer developing crossing routes. Go
Speaker 2: look at Smith and Jigbun the Seahawks game doing that
Speaker 2: last week, and then if they adjust, get back to
Speaker 2: more of the perimeter attacking and processing through that lifted
Speaker 2: coverage the way Tua did against Buffalo. I do think
Speaker 2: this is where we see ten and seventeen get back
Speaker 2: into the box score in a big way.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why here in one second.
Speaker 2: And our third key is to execute in the red zone,
Speaker 2: just because I think this will be an offensive battle.
Speaker 2: If we can trade threes for sevens, well that's pretty
Speaker 2: self explanatory. We've been awesome on offense since Tua came back.
Speaker 2: But there are you know, three plays and sequences you
Speaker 2: can point to and say that's where they could have
Speaker 2: gotten more. The obvious one is the fumble last week,
Speaker 2: So red zone execution and ball security, but I don't
Speaker 2: think we have to. I don't think we can have
Speaker 2: drives go into the plus side of the field with
Speaker 2: that points like that fumble, and I don't think we
Speaker 2: can penetrate the red zone and come up with less
Speaker 2: than seven like we've done a couple of times the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. And that's the next play here.
Speaker 2: The third and one stuff on Raheem Moster last week
Speaker 2: on that offset up back dive that was just don't
Speaker 2: like it. But the other run game stuff on third
Speaker 2: down work. So just having a feel for what's working
Speaker 2: and go with it in those critical spots, as vague
Speaker 2: as that might sound. The other one being the end
Speaker 2: of the first half sequence against the Cardinals. I've covered
Speaker 2: it in you know, a million times here, the second
Speaker 2: down run to the third down fade. Just hated that
Speaker 2: whole sequence. So finding ways to turn those three point
Speaker 2: situations into seven point situations. And you know, I know
Speaker 2: this incorporates the down weeks of offense, but our fifty
Speaker 2: percent red zone conversion rate right now is twenty seventh
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and that's the same conversion rate their
Speaker 2: defense Allows, which is good for tenth best in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and the guys you can go after on that back end.
Speaker 2: They just traded Trey White, who was playing a lot
Speaker 2: for them, but you could tell it wasn't working. So
Speaker 2: Kobe Durant, Darius Williams or the starting corps and the perimeter.
Speaker 2: Akella Witherspoon plays inside. Then Quinton Lake and Cameron curl
Speaker 2: are both best suited to play down low, but they
Speaker 2: do bring a Cameron Kitchen sometime to play in the post.
Speaker 2: I just think they're young, inexperience and can kind of
Speaker 2: have some bust on that back end, and the Seahawks
Speaker 2: did some deep shots against that as a result of that.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I don't think fairly highly of their back
Speaker 2: six at all, and that's why I focus so much
Speaker 2: on the guys up front, Tchroy Reider and Christian rose
Speaker 2: Boom or linebackers I think you can go after. I
Speaker 2: feel the same way about both safeties and kind of
Speaker 2: the cornerbacks for that matter as well, especially when you
Speaker 2: have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. I think Darius Williams
Speaker 2: is slowing down at this point of his career. I
Speaker 2: think Kobe Durant doesn't move that well. In fact, both
Speaker 2: of them are below the forty percent tile threshold in
Speaker 2: the short shuttle, which spells lack of change of direction.
Speaker 2: They do have pretty good long speed, but I'll take
Speaker 2: Tyreek and Jalen against anybody's long speed. I just don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be able to handle switches and motion
Speaker 2: pre snap that Well. What's at stake? Well, are you
Speaker 2: looking to enjoy Offhins football from now to Thanksgiving? Because
Speaker 2: you haven't got a chance to really enjoy it the
Speaker 2: last two months. Really, But if you win this game,
Speaker 2: you're gonna win three in a row and then you'll
Speaker 2: have a chance to get over five hundred on Turkey Day.
Speaker 2: Lose this one, you have to win the final eight
Speaker 2: games to have a shot, and that seems even more
Speaker 2: unlikely than winning eight of nine, seems like. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, no big deal, just the entire season and again,
Speaker 2: off a tough loss, them off a huge overtime win.
Speaker 2: This is just a spot that you have to win
Speaker 2: in That's how it goes my range of outcomes. I
Speaker 2: think it'll be a close game either way. I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit worried about primetime because we always kind of
Speaker 2: shrink in those spots, but we'll see nothing to lose
Speaker 2: this week's maybe they go in a different direction.
Speaker 1: I think it's close.
Speaker 2: I think the skim, the skims, the schemes, and the
Speaker 2: team's coaches are similar enough to where it keeps it
Speaker 2: close through familiarity. I think it's gonna be tight late,
Speaker 2: and I think the last team with the football will
Speaker 2: win the game. I think it's gonna be thirty one
Speaker 2: twenty seven, with like three minutes left, Tua gets the
Speaker 2: football back and takes us down for the win. Thirty
Speaker 2: four thirty one. Keys to victory play connected on the
Speaker 2: offensive line. Do not let them win with the rush games.
Speaker 2: That's how they beat you. Number two you have to
Speaker 2: get pressure on Stafford with your four man rushes. And
Speaker 2: number three you must reset the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 2: set the hardest edges so hard you've ever set in
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