1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Ron an Aian. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: It will advance, spark right, run the timing up until 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: it just starts to hear noise. It's kind of like 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: you know when Mom would yell out the back window 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: dinner time, and is that really Mom? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 7 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Better be mom. Others I'm getting a spoon when I 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: get home and it's not the feede yes. 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Still tears up, play lost it and still create radio. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Thanks up, Ben Plane and when you fall in love. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: There's a plan stand of dreams made of. 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: Amritan the Car Doctor. 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got rush coming through my rear fender walls. 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 4: Just was wondering is it easier just to take it 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: to a body shop and have them try to fix 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 4: it or just change that whole pan. 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you first, you show me a 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: body shop that'll touch rust. 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on autumn mode 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: of repair. 23 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: the phone and call in. 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but. 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: I am here to take your calls at eight five 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: five five six ninety nine hundred and nah Pee. 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Running. 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: You know, I love that scene in Star Trek, the 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Voyage Home. They they found Spock, right, he's up on 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: the planet. He's growing, and they're they're trying to get 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: back to Earth, but Earth is besieged by because of 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: that strange device from outer space, and the Enterprise crew, 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, Kirk and McCoy and Scotty and the rest 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: of them that are there. They have to go back 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: in time and they go back to nineteen sixty eight 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: to steal, well not steal, but borrow whales, remember, and 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: bring the whales to the future, to the to their 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: time and repopulate the Earth. And I love that scene. 40 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: I always think of that in the shop when Spock 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: looks befuddled and McCoy says, what's the matter, And Spock 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: explains to McCoy that, you know, well, gee, I'm trying 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: to get us back to the future, and I have 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: to calculate the time warp and you know the variable 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: now is the weight of the whales and the water, 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: and you know it's not a constant anymore. And Spock 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: lays out all his problems and McCoy says, well, you're 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: just going to have to guess. And it just makes 49 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: me giggle every time, because sometimes sometimes you have to 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: guess when it comes to fixing a car, and you 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: just got to hope it's a good guess. Like Spock said, 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: well then I shall make it my best guess. We 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: had twenty fourteen Ford Escape in the shop this week. 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: That high mileage, super high mileage one hundred and sixty 55 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: five thousand miles on it, well, not high mileage compared 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: to Tom's. Tom Ray, my engineer, his is probably encroaching 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: the three hundred and eighty five thousand mile mark. Knowing him, 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: you know, I'm telling you, when that thing hits the 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand mile mark, it's going to go to 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: the Smithsonian, or Ford's going to want it back because 61 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: they're going to want to figure out what they did 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: wrong to let one go so far half a million miles. 63 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: We agreed on that is that it okay, well half 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: a million, then it's time we're getting rid of it then, 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: because Ford will want it back or they'll have to 66 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: scrounge around and try and find a million mile badge 67 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: or a half a million mile badge marker for the grill. 68 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: Well, what they're going to want to do is they're 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 5: going to want to figure out what they screwed up 70 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: because it lasted so long. 71 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Right, so it's just staggering. But in any event, I 72 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: had this fourteen escape with one hundred and sixty five 73 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: thousand plus miles on it that was setting a P 74 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: zero two ninety nine foult, which is a loss of 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: boost or overboost in the case of Ford, it can 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: be one or the other. And they were talking about 77 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: a problem with the way the turbo charger was adding 78 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: boost to the engine. It was it was erroneous and 79 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: it's you know, procedure, and it's the way it powered 80 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: up and so forth. Well, the problem with it was 81 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: P zero two ninety nine was intermittent. It happened to 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: the customer, you know, coming up the hill past the 83 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: church at sixty five seventy miles an hour and passing gear. 84 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: It was hot, not super hot. It's not really crazy 85 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: warm here in North Jersey this time of year, and 86 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: you know, it just it just went into this mood 87 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: power and you know, it barely got out of its 88 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: own way, and it turned on the check engine light 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: and it had its issues. So naturally it ended up 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: on my doorstep. 91 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 6: I got it. 92 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: I got it a couple of days later, and you 93 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: know the problem was Okay. I can scan it for codes, 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: and I've got the fault code, and I can go 95 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: through some basic functional testing, and I can go through 96 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: and verify operation, and I can open up the wastegate, 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: and the wastegate moves and it seems to have no 98 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: restriction to it. But now I've got one hundred and 99 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: sixty five thousand mile vehicle that had a little bit 100 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: of a noisy rear end, the differentials starting to hum 101 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: a little bit, as they tend to do. So we 102 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: know that's five grand, and now I've got to recommend 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: a turbo charger. 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: Well do I? 105 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: That's probably the only place you can go, because if 106 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: you look at the flow of diagnostics and you do 107 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: your research, there's not many other choices unless you come 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: across technical bulletin fifteen dish oh one sixty two, and 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: this is from Ford, and Ford says, if it's a 110 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: one point six liter turbomotor with lack of power and 111 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: the check engine lights on it, and it's got a 112 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: P zero two thirty four two forty five two forty 113 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: six and or two ninety nine. They want you to 114 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: follow this procedure and they describe it in detail. Some 115 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen through sixteen escapes Fiesta's fusions, et cetera. Makes 116 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: a bit a lack of power concern with malfunction indicator 117 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: lamp on diagnostic trouble codes, as I said, stored in 118 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: power train control module, and they want you to go 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: through diagnostics. And when you come to the point where 120 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, like you can't duplicate the problem and 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: everything passes, you get to play spock. You get to 122 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: calculate the time curve back from nineteen sixty eight into 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 2: the future because they tell you put on a wastecate 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: management solnoid, which you can do. It's it's a couple 125 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: of four or five hundred dollars worth of vacuum line 126 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: and electric solenoid. And you know you have to basically 127 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: access it by taking the right side, right front, right 128 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: front tire down and accessing it through the wheelhouse because 129 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: that's the only place you can get to it. And boy, 130 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: those hoses are baked on there. Holy cow, does that 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: turbo get hot. Those rubber hoses are just cooked and 132 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: you kick it out the door. And the point of 133 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: this is, yeah, it was a guess, but I call 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: it an eighty percentile guest. I had eliminated all the obvious. 135 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: I had eliminated as much as I could and didn't 136 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: just throw a part at it. I at least had 137 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: something to fall back on. 138 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: Look. 139 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: Ford Motor Company generated a bulletin. Again, you know what 140 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: are the numbers? Where are bulletins come from? Bulletins don't 141 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: exist because there's two cars that are broken that have this. 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: There aren't even two thousand cars that are broken that 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: have this. It's probably more like two hundred thousand cars 144 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: or more that have this particular problem. And when you 145 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: start to see repetitive failure, a bulletin can be a 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: pretty good source. At at least it eliminates the obvious. 147 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: The problem with turbo cars is in the case of 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: the Ford, in the case of the escape, you can 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: buy two parts. You can buy a wastecate management which 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: is the aforementioned plastic soloid with the rubber hoses, or 151 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: you can buy the whole turbo baby. You know it's 152 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: it's this or everything, and you know the wastegates solenoid 153 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: it's a couple of hours to get it in there. 154 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't the worst, but the turbo charger, the drive 155 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: cheff comes out, the front exhaust pipe comes out, the 156 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: transfer case comes out, the lower cradles in the way. 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: If you want, you can drop it, if not, leave 158 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: it there, but you're always working over the top of it. 159 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: And then you've got to hope that the heated and 160 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: hardened bolts that hold the turbo to the exhaust manifold 161 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: and the rest of the vehicle in one hundred and 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: sixty five thousand miles haven't haven't been heat treated or 163 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: tempered to the point where they don't want to come out, 164 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: or they snap, or their brittle, or they're blued, or 165 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: it becomes an issue. You got to take your best guess. 166 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: It's important, but you've got to do your research. And 167 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm talking to you, all of you, all of my 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: di wires and all of my brothers and sisters that 169 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: are doing this professionally. You guys have all been there. 170 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. But for everybody that 171 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: you know, once in a while you got to take 172 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: a guess. You just got to take a step back. 173 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: I took a step back. I eliminated the obvious. I said, look, 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: I've looked at everything else. Do I have another choice? 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: Is there another way to do this? The only other 176 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: way to do this was well, there was two ways. 177 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: One verify the fault, like drive it until it broke again, 178 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: which wasn't practical all right because the couple of days 179 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: we had it and drove it and nothing else came up. 180 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: Or put a turbocharger on it. In other words, change everything, 181 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: because and even then, right, you change everything. You know, 182 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: it could always be a wiring issue. It could always 183 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 2: be that wires that's broken under an insulation somewhere that 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: you may or may not see, and then you'll be 185 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: chasing that. So sometimes in order to repair, your best guess, 186 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: as long as it's your cheapest guess and as long 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: as you've done some research, is really the best yes 188 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: you can make, and you'll probably find yourself back in 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: the future where you want to be because your time 190 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: travel calculations are correct. And that's what it was for us, 191 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: because we ship that car out on Monday this week 192 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: and it's been five days and I haven't heard and 193 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: you know, according to Austin, it would occur every couple 194 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: of days when the problem was happening, and by now 195 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: I think we would have heard. So we expect that 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: next week we'll get a phone call and we can 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: do the rear breaks and get him back on the 198 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: road safer than he is now. But you know, one 199 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: hundred percent and that'll be okay. So don't feel bad 200 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: if you have to guess. Just make sure it's a 201 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: good one and make sure your calculations are all right 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: where they should be. Eight five five five six ninety 203 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: nine hundred eight five five five six nine nine zero zero. 204 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: Here we'll say it like that. That is the phone 205 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: number to get in here to talk to me. Ron 206 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: and Andy and the car doctor, myself and Tom Ray 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: will both be back right after this. Don't go away. 208 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 5: It's he drives that way. But when I it comes 209 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 5: to fixing cars, Ron has car advice done right. Eight 210 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: five five five six zero ninety nine zero zero. Here's Roden, Kay. 211 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming back and spending some time with me. 212 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm Ron and any and let's get over and talk 213 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: to Joe from Tennessee. Joe, how can I help You're 214 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: on with the car doctor. 215 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, we got a two thousand and four Toyota 216 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 6: Siana and my mother and my grandmother was driving down 217 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 6: the road and all of a sudden it died on 218 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: her and wouldn't start back. And the field punk has 219 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 6: been replaced. And I checked at the field rail right 220 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 6: up where it goes up through the injectors, and there's 221 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 6: a boat on it. I loosened that up, and when 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 6: and when I did, field sprayed out of it, just 223 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 6: to you know, a stream of it. So I feel 224 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 6: like I'm getting fuel to the injectors. And I took 225 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: one of the plug wires off and tried just turning 226 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 6: it over, and I spark. Okay, I really don't know 227 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 6: where to go from here. I don't know if it's maybe, 228 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: I don't know. 229 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Can it well? Here, let's let's talk about it. Cianna 230 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: is a pretty good vehicle, right, it doesn't It doesn't 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: have a huge track record of dying on the road. 232 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: So let me just ask the basic questions. Has it 233 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: ever been in an accident that you know of? 234 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 7: Not, not that I know of. 235 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: Okay? Are are you the original owner? 236 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: Uh? 237 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: No, sir, okay, it could have been, but not, you know, 238 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: Like I said. 239 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 2: How long how long have you owned it? 240 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: Joe, Well, it's it's actually my grandmother. 241 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Okay, how long? How long has he had it? 242 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 4: For? 243 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 6: Three or four years? 244 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's just say no, it hasn't. But 245 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: just keep that in the back of your mind. When 246 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: it dies. If you if you know it stalls, she 247 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: turns the key off. If you turn the key back on, 248 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: does the check engine light light up? 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 7: Yes, sir. 250 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: That was another thing. One we took the bat when 251 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 6: they did the field bunk. They took the battery cable off, 252 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: but when we put it back on, of course, I 253 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 6: guess that cleared the codes. So we checked it and 254 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 6: it does have one PO three forty, which that's a camshaft. 255 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: Ah well, I can't think of the name of it now, 256 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 6: but that that was the code that popped up even 257 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 6: after the battery's been disconnected. 258 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's got a hard failure. P zero three 259 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: forty is what you're saying. 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: You can go in. If you can. 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: Go in look at codes, and P zero three forty 262 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: was there all. 263 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 6: The time, yes, sir, even after the battery's been taken off. 264 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: Okay. 265 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: So and we when we put it back, put the 266 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 6: battery back on and tried to turn it over. It 267 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 6: still wasn't dark, so we and and then when we 268 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 6: put the scanner on it, that's what showed up. 269 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: So it's in no start mode right now? 270 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 6: Yes, all right? 271 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: Do you have a mechanic stethoscope? 272 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: Joe? 273 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 7: Uh, I've got a long screw drip that'll work. 274 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: Have you listened to the injectors to the injector's click. 275 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 6: I hadn't tried that. 276 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: I don't. 277 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: It ain't running yet, no, no, yeah, no, no, no, 278 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: But Joe, if somebody, if somebody's cranking it, all right, 279 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear the injectors go click, click, click, click click. 280 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: If the injectors aren't clicking while cranking, it'll never start. 281 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: You got you got another car in the household? Joe, Yes, okay, 282 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: what's the other car? 283 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 7: Uh? 284 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 6: Well, my wife she's got a Camry and then I 285 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: got a Ford Rangers. 286 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Okay, go over to the camera. Four cylinder or six 287 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: cylinder camera. It's all right, easy. Injectors are easy to 288 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: get to. Well what year? Let me ask that? Quite 289 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: what your camera? 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 6: Seventeen? 291 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so take your take your long screw driver. 292 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with it. Listen to my dad fixed many 293 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: of DC three during World War two with long screw drivers. 294 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a there's there's it's a 295 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: great tool. But you know, take that and go listen 296 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: to the camera. So you know what kind of a 297 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: click you're listening for. Right, let's let's learn how to 298 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: let's learn how to fix cars on the good car 299 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: before we go over to the bad car. Okay, so 300 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: you you'll hear that click, click, click, click click on 301 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: that seventeen camera. Now walk over to you know, grandmom's 302 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: grandmom Sienna. You should hear that click. If you've got 303 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: click and you're confident you've got fuel pressure right and 304 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: you've got spark, that that that baby's got to start, 305 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: all right. The only other thing that will keep that. 306 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: But it won't if it's if it's clicking, you know, 307 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: and then if it's not clicking. Just do you have 308 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: a scan tool? Do you own a scan tool? 309 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: Joe? 310 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 6: Well, just it's just a cheap one from maybe Walmart. 311 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care. Well, we'll display data stream, do 312 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: you know. 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 6: I honestly, I honestly couldn't tell you what I could 314 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 6: tell you what kind it is, and Matthew, you could 315 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 6: tell me if it does. I don't know though, what 316 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 6: kind is it? It's anova. 317 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: I think that does display data stream. Yeah, go look 318 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: on there. There's got to be a place where it 319 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: says codes. It's probably obed button. Is that DTC is 320 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: DTC is diagnostic trouble codes? And then is there any 321 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: kind of a scroll down menu that talks about data stream? 322 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 6: I'd have to hook it up, all right, So let's 323 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 6: go look. 324 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: What I want you to go look at is if 325 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: you have no injector click, I just want to make 326 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: sure that for some reason it's not seeing or it 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: doesn't think you're at wide open throttle. What I'm trying 328 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: to get to is long way around the barn. If 329 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: you take a modern day automobile and put your foot 330 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: to the floor, it won't start. It'll crank continuously. Because 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: one of the things the engineers have put into most 332 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: of the modern cars on the road in the last 333 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: twenty years is we're all creatures of habit. Every time 334 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: a human being thinks the car is flooded, what's the 335 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: first thing we do, Oh, the carburetor's backed up. We 336 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: hold our foot to the floor and try and clear 337 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: flood the motor. Well, just you know, I've seen. We've 338 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: had cases where cars, you know, the throttle position sensor 339 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: or the accelerated position, pedal position sensor something reports where 340 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: at wide open throttle the car goes into clear flood 341 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: mode and cuts off the injectors. So, if it turns 342 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: out you don't have that click, I want to know that, 343 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: and I just I just want to get past that, 344 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: just to be sure we don't have a false wide 345 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: open throttle setting. That being said, if you have mechanical 346 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: click at the injectors, you have spark, and you have 347 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: fuel pressure. The only other conclusion I can come to 348 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: is you have a mechanical fault of some kind that's 349 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: preventing that vehicle from running. Just for giggles, just for giggles. 350 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: At that point, unplug the mass airflow sensor? Does the 351 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: car start? 352 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 7: You know? Do we have a right? 353 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: Do we have a mass airflow problem causing an erroneous reading? 354 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: All right? Does this car sit for a length of time? 355 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: Joe? 356 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 6: Well, it does at times, and it's probably since she's 357 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 6: five and a half hours from here and she just 358 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 6: grove down here, right, and before that it's shit, probably 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, three or four months. 360 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: Okay, you know I always I always get concerned on 361 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: cars that sit with spiders building up webs up and 362 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: around the mass airflow sensor, causing all kinds of problems. 363 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: But let's go through the basics first. Let's go through 364 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: one step at a time. Do the things I told you, 365 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: all right? And then if we have to, let's concern 366 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: ourselves with do we have proper power to the main 367 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: relay in the underhood fuse box. But that's a little 368 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 2: bit down the road. Do those things? Call me back 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: if you need more job, I'm here to help you. 370 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor. We'll be back 371 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: right after this. Don't go away, Welcome back, run an 372 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: Adie in the card doctor. Remember last week we were 373 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: talking about the price of gasoline. Boy, I've got a 374 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: wide ranging a bunch of emails this week. I think 375 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: the high is from our buddy Paul Walker up there 376 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: in Alaska. Paul wrote in and he said, ron I 377 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: was listening to your show up here tonight. And Paul 378 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: is a full disclosure polls the program director for KSKO. 379 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: They carry us up there at McGrath, Alaska. He said, 380 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: we pay eight forty three eight dollars and forty three 381 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: cents a gallon. Gas is barged up in the summer 382 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: for a few months, and if you need it over 383 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: the winter, it's flown up. So you know, I'll Aska 384 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: is a little bit of a remote. Listen, the car 385 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: doctor covers all areas of the globe where you're We're everywhere, baby, 386 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: and that's just what we want. Big or small, we 387 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: don't care. We just want to fix cars. But eight 388 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: forty three a gallon? Can you imagine? And then I 389 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: heard there was another one here. Let me see if 390 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: I can find it. I think this was from Steve 391 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: and Roanoke. Steve was talking how he was paying three 392 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 2: point fifty three a gallon. I don't know I've got 393 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: it here, but I'll find it later on. I'll let 394 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: you know exactly. But you know, eight fifty a gallon? 395 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Holy now? So I'm very happy paying 396 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: my four dollars a gallon in New Jersey. So but anyway, 397 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: let's go over to Andy in Maine. Andy eight CNN 398 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: A twelve Malibu, some questions about transfluid? How can I 399 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: help you? 400 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 7: Ron? 401 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: And Ini and at your servicer? 402 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, Ron, great show. I listened to you whenever 403 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I can thank you. I appreciate that Ron both. In 404 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: my course, I changed the oil every three thousand miles 405 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: or so. And the last time I go to these 406 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: thirty dollars oil change places. The last time I went there, 407 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: they said that my transmission fluid was dirty on my 408 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: Siana van. And I got two questions for you. I'm 409 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: coming from the point of view, if it's not broke, 410 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: don't fix it right In other words, do you still 411 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: recommend changing fluids like the fluid in the Toyota The 412 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: mileage is like one hundred and ninety thousand miles. Wow, 413 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: if I changed the fluid, could I possibly damage something? 414 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 3: Or what's your take on that? 415 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: You could? 416 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: You know? 417 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: It's it's funny, Andy, I have to tell you we 418 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: you know we do. That's that should be w S 419 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: in eight eight oh eight might have been one of 420 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: the first years. It's right around the cusp of when 421 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: they went from Type four to WS fluid, which you know, 422 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: Toyota's different type of fluids. I've seen problems on certain 423 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: Toyotas all right where and it seems like it's more 424 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: than newer ones fifteen and above Model Y're fifteen and 425 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: above where they get to a certain point. It's not 426 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: all of them, but they'll just get to that seventy 427 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: eighty thousand mile mark and the trans will start to 428 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: chatter and they'll have slip issues and just won't behave well. 429 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: So a lot of the newer WS vehicles will recommend 430 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: trans fluid changes in the fifty to sixty thousand mile range. 431 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: Transmission fluid is not like engine oil. It's once. It's 432 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: dirty and dark, it's tainted. It just never seems to 433 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: stay or come clean no matter how much you change it. 434 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: But one of the things we're seeing with Toyotas in particular, 435 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: and we see it on a few other models, is 436 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: there are additive packages and friction modifiers in the fluids 437 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: that do wear out. It's like vitamins, all right, The 438 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: additive packet friction modifier will wear out and cause the 439 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: trend to malfunction. You got one hundred and ninety thousand 440 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: miles on this car. I'm sure the fluid is black. 441 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's beat up. 442 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 7: You know. 443 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: This is about where do you want to take the gamble? Andy? 444 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: Do you want to roll the dice now and change 445 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: the fluid now and see if you get to the 446 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand mile mark. I've come to the conclusion, 447 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: after all my years of fixing cars that some cars 448 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: are just put together right, they're all right. But some 449 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: are more right than others. You know, some of them 450 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: are just they just seem to endure longer with the 451 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: least amount of service. It's white if some human beings 452 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: rise above and you know, meet life head on and 453 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: rise to the challenge, while others are stuck trying to, 454 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: you know, figure out what a golf club is for. 455 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: You, do you think that I should kind of just 456 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: ignored it or what's your take on it? 457 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: Do you take long trips with it? Andy? 458 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 459 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I go to uh, I go to New Jersey 460 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: every once in a while, and uh, you know, uh, 461 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: Rhode Island. Yeah, I take fairly long trips. 462 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: You know. 463 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: I think you've more than proven that it's a good vehicle. 464 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: It's got twenty thousand miles on the original trans. 465 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: Oh, that the vehicle is excellent. I mean, it hasn't 466 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 3: given me any trouble. And uh I buy another one. 467 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 3: Let's put it that one right? 468 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, you'd be you'd be disappointed if you'd expected to 469 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: do this. You know, it's I don't know that the 470 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 2: new one will go that far. Andy, They've they got 471 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: wise to it, and they've they've engineered it for for 472 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: prosperity on their side. 473 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: So we say, you know, I think it's good when, uh, 474 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: when the fellow told me that the fluid was dirty? 475 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: I have another Are the the Malibu? And I can't 476 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: the Malibu as far as I can tell. Does it 477 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: even have a dipstick? No, it does not transmission unless 478 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm missing it. 479 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: No, it does not. It's a it's a well you know, 480 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: well you wouldn't. 481 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: Obviously, how would you know if your fluid is low? 482 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: You won't until the trans malfunctions. 483 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: You're kidding me. 484 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope. Listen. Let me let me back up 485 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: to the beginning of our conversation. All right, So you're 486 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: using a I'll use your words, a thirty dollars oil 487 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: change place, right. Who's your regular mechanic. 488 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: A fellow here, Paul down in Jonesport. 489 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: Okay, and he doesn't do your oil changes. 490 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: Well, I only take it to Paul when I like, 491 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: for instance, what did he do? He changed some grommets 492 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: and breaks? In other words, I don't get a big 493 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: city too often, and you know it's just convenient for 494 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: me to pull in there right and think that boom, 495 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: I'm out of there, you know what I mean? 496 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: So are you comfortable driving a twelve and a well, 497 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: what's probably almost a fifteen year old vehicle with higher 498 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: mileage on them, that it only goes to the mechanic 499 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: when it breaks. 500 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: On. 501 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: Don't you feel I've been comfortable? 502 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: Let's put it that way, right, I mean, I kind 503 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: of think an oil change is much more than an 504 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: oil change, especially on an older, high mileage vehicle. You know, 505 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: an oil change is supposed to find the problem before 506 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: it happens. An oil change. The last thing an oil 507 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: change does is change oil and filter. The first thing 508 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: an oil change does is put it in the hands 509 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: of a qualified mechanic, you know, he or she. They 510 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: take it for a road test. They drive it around 511 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: the block three rights as we call it. Listen to 512 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: the creeks and rattles, you know, go through and do 513 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: the procedure. You know, what you're doing is okay, I 514 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: get it, But you know a lot of things can 515 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: change over time, especially on an older vehicle. You know, 516 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: you're you're defying the odds. I give you credit Andy, 517 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: and I don't have an explanation for it. But I'm 518 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: a guy that I like to be under the hood 519 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: every couple of months. I like to see things every 520 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: couple of you know, four or five, six months, to 521 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: see what's going on. You know that Malibu. Yeah, there's 522 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: there's no way for anybody to check the fluid level. 523 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: And I can tell you both of those vehicles are 524 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: expensive transmissions to replace, and that if it were up 525 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: to me, if we were at the shop, we would 526 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: have had a long conversation about where do you want 527 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: to roll the dice fifty sixty thousand miles change the fluid. 528 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: It's just it's just good maintenance, you know. 529 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: It just does. 530 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: So in my younger days, I used to do all 531 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: my work on all my cars, right, and for instance, 532 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 3: to change the transmission fluid on say a car from 533 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: the seventies, you pull the pan off, you know, and 534 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: the and the flu which done, and there was filters 535 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: involved and everything else. Is that still the same today 536 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: on the Malibu? 537 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: Maybe? I think on the Malibu not even I think 538 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: the Malibu is just going to be a drain and 539 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: fill and you've got to follow a specific procedure on 540 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: the Toyota, it's going to be a drain and fill. 541 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: But keep in mind, draining and filling the toyota at 542 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: this stage you're only going to get at best two 543 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: and a half three quarts of fluid out of it. 544 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: And it's probably a six court system because there's going 545 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: to be fluid in the converter. The ideal way to 546 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: do both of those is somebody using a machine that 547 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: they hook up in line to the cooler to the 548 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: trans cooler and do a fluid exchange. I don't want 549 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: to use the word flush, but do a fluid exchange. 550 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: The danger in bultimate they take it to a transmission 551 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 2: shop right right, and if they'll even do it at 552 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: this point because of the mileage. You know the danger 553 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: and changing trans fluid on an older high mileage unit 554 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: is transfluid does leave a varnished deposit, a varnished ring 555 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: around the trans as time goes on. You put fresh 556 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: trans fluid into anything and transfer. It has a very 557 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: high scrubbing, high detergency action in the majority of cases, 558 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: and it will scrub and clean the inside of that 559 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: trans over time and loos in particulate. But you know 560 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: where do you want to where do you want to 561 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: take the risk? You know, if the trans is going 562 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: to fail, let's make it fail. Let's find out, because 563 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: you're still driving that car a long distance. You're traveling 564 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: eight hours to New Jersey, right, okay? Right? So where 565 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: do you where do you want to take the loss? 566 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: You know, at least this way if the trans If 567 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: the trans starts to fail because of a fluid change, 568 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, and you'll know within a month or six 569 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: weeks at least you're close to home and you know 570 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: where to take it to get it overhauled. Right, Because 571 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: to put a five thousand dollars trans in that car 572 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: is a whole lot cheaper than trying to go out 573 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: and buy a new one for. 574 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: Sixty that's for sure. So now, uh, well, so what 575 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: you what I'm going to do then is talk to 576 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: my mechanic and see if he'll do it, and if not, 577 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: I'll have to wait till I get down to a 578 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: big city or something. Right, And as far as I know, 579 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: there are no places like we talked about the thirty 580 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: dollars oil change. There's no place like a sixty dollars transmission, no. 581 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: Change, And you wouldn't want to and frankly, I'd be 582 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: a little concerned about the thirty dollars oil change place, 583 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: because well, that's a conversation for another day. But that's 584 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: a longer conversation. Cars are getting complicated and the fluids 585 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: are getting very precise. Go do those things, Andy, call 586 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: me back if you need more. I'm up against the clock. 587 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm running Indie in the car doctor. We'll be back 588 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: right after this coming back run an Indi in the 589 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: car doctor. Let's go right away to Bob and Upstate 590 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: New York thirteen Ford Escape. Bob, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 591 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: how can I help? 592 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 7: Hey, Ryan, So my daughter in law, my daughter and 593 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 7: my son in law are having problems with their twenty 594 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 7: thirteen Ford Escape, with the one point six liter turbo 595 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 7: where it's consuming coolant on a regular basis. It recently 596 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 7: stranded when it overheated, so they were smart they stopped. 597 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 7: Got a tote of fixed. But it's got one hundred 598 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: and fifty thousand miles plus or minus, and you know 599 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 7: here it is, it's eleven years old. Diagnostics that I 600 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 7: can do? Or is this a simple case of just 601 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 7: giving up and saying put some caseal ultimated and keep driving. 602 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: You know, when we say it overheats, Bob cooling fans, 603 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: come on, Yeah, it. 604 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 7: Was purely just low fluid triggered. I shouldn't say it overheated. 605 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 7: I take that back. It in indicated on the dashboard 606 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: it was out of cool it or cool it to 607 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 7: stop the engine. I mean it did not reach an overheat. 608 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 7: We're likely to have hurt. 609 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: Them if you pull the engine oil dipstick. And I 610 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: know you're smart enough to do that listening to you 611 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: all these years. You know you pulled the oil dipstick 612 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: and there's no signs of coolant in the oil. 613 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: Right. 614 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a milkshake. It's not chocolate, he brown. 615 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: It just looks like oil. Right, So it's it's likely 616 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: just consuming coolant past the head gasket. You know, expensive 617 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: repair three to five grand, best guess. So yeah, you 618 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: know it's it's three to five grand on an eleven 619 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: year old, one hundred and fifty thousand mile vehicle, or 620 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, one hundred dollars bottle of caseal ultimate and 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: let's see what happens, you know, because beyond that then 622 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: you've got to you know, what's the rest of the vehicle. Like, 623 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of things have to happen here. Yeah, yeah, 624 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: it's right. You know, if the body was perfect, If 625 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: the body was perfect, and you know the and for 626 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: some reason which I can't imagine why k SAL wouldn't 627 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: work right, or it was a bigger repair, or it's 628 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: something else unrelated that we're not seeing or hearing it 629 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: right now in our conversation. You know, would you put 630 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: an engine in it? Engines five grand, transmissions five grand. 631 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: We're at differentials five grand. We're fifteen rand into a 632 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: car that's rustling, that's eleven years old, of the arm, 633 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: fifty thousand miles on it. Uh, you know that that 634 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bollery? 635 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 7: Nothing else for me to check now? Right now? You're 636 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 7: there nothing else I could check. They took it to 637 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 7: their mechanic. He couldn't find any leaks obviously, and makes 638 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 7: it you checked. So that's what I was saying, Is 639 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 7: there anything I could do? Now? 640 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: It's there's there's nothing. There's nothing on the ground, there's 641 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: it's not wet inside the engine compartment. We're going to 642 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: make an assumption. Hey, we're going to finish this hour 643 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: where I started this hour. That you know, take your 644 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: best guess. It sounds like your best guess is it's 645 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: a head gas get Let's get a bottle of Caseal Ultimate, 646 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: pour it in and see what happens. And if that 647 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: doesn't do it, then we can start to think about 648 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: replacing the vehicle and you'll find more of you and 649 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: everybody else at casel dot com. Appreciate the call. I'm 650 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: running any in the car doctor. We're back right after this. 651 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Running the Car Doctor. Good phone calls this hour. 652 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate everybody calling in and some good questions and 653 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: some just just just great conversation. And it's funny, right, Bob, 654 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: the last conversation. Right, Sometimes you can take your best guess, 655 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, and it becomes a point of practicality. You're 656 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: gonna buy a hole engine, You're gonna put a head 657 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: gasket on it. You're gonna go into one hundred and 658 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: fifty thousand mile car that's rusting. No, you're gonna do 659 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: a You're gonna do a bottle of Caseal Ultimate and 660 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: see what the outcome is. Because sometimes I'm telling you, 661 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 2: it all comes back to Star Trek the voyage home. Right, 662 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: your best guess is your best choice sometimes and that's uh, 663 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: that's the only way to go about it. I want 664 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: to talk to you real quick about this two thousand 665 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: and three Honda cord before I go today. You know, 666 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: sometimes the repairs, well, it's older cars. It's older cars 667 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: with with goofy little problems that maybe there are no solutions, 668 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: you know, or maybe they're the solutions are too expensive, 669 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: just like that escape with the head gasket problem. Well, 670 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: in this case, this three accord came in little old 671 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: lady to the shop this week and she had clipped 672 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: the front bumper. She pulled up and caught the front 673 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: lower valance on one of those parking lot and buttments, 674 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: and then backed up and couldn't get She was stuck, 675 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: and then went forward and she was stuck. And then 676 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: finally somebody picked up the car, she said, and was 677 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: able to get her off the concrete. But now the 678 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: whole front of the car is kind of hanging down, 679 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 2: it's dragging. 680 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: It. 681 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Would you scoop anything up if it was snowing out, 682 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: she would have scooped up all the snow in the road. 683 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: So she brought it over to us. We looked at it. 684 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: But it's older, right, it's an older car now it's 685 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: twenty two years old. We didn't have the clips for 686 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: the lower bumper in the assortments that we have, and 687 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: we have a lot of assortments in the shop. Went 688 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: on AutoZone pro dot com. The folks over at AutoZone 689 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: ran us over an assortment for older vehicles, which, yeah, okay, 690 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: so now I have older vehicle clips in the shop. 691 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: But the point was AutoZone Pro again to the rescue, 692 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: and we got our little old lady customer back out 693 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 2: on the road and the bumper put up back where 694 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 2: it was supposed to be an all for a very 695 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: cheap price. So thanks again to the folks over at 696 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: AutoZone AutoZone pro dot com. I'm Ronineny in the car doctor, 697 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: reminding you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 698 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: they're priceless. 699 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 7: Sis