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But it was it was a player talking 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.280 about his career, and he said it was Klay Thompson 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.639 who said, I'm not here. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:11.480 Without Kobe Bryant. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.680 Like Kobe Bryant was my messiah. Everything funneled through Kobe. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.720 And it's really interesting since his death, people are often 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.799 more willing to say that when somebody passes, to honor them, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.640 to say God, that person meant so much to me. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.040 And we've heard lots of people say it. Lebron said 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:35.280 it about Michael Jordan or about Kobe. Kyrie just said 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.320 he was about him being a mentor and a guy 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:38.240 who looked up to all of it. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.079 Yep, don't you find it fascinating? 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:51.680 Find a single quarterback who says I structure my whole 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:52.520 game around Brady. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:54.600 I've never seen one. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.280 It's fascinating because I thought you were going to say 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.000 Aaron there, and I was like, oh, Haaleb said, and 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.880 a lot of guys. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:07.000 Are Aaron name. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.560 I thought you were you were going and I was like, oh, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.840 I think you're wrong enough, But Brady, you're right about that. Fine. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.239 Isn't that fascinating? And so here's what I thought. This 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.760 is my take is that there are a lot of 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:29.760 ways to be successful, but the most great athletes are entertainers, artists, singers. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:35.960 They're all really artists. They're really all artists. Brady, less 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:41.800 so than any great athlete at all, bordered on mechanical 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.120 and efficient. He basically was the cheat code. He had 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.840 the answers to the test. He literally walked to the line. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.160 He didn't have to make dramatic plays because he audibled 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:53.760 out of them. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:54.160 That's right. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.600 He almost never got sacked because he could see it coming. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.000 And so artists Caleb and Mahomes and Lamar. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.200 I mean, look at the best quarterbacks now, they're Movers 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:09.160 and Kyler, and I mean Herbert is another very mechanical 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:13.680 processor and quarterback. I don't think Herbert will have a 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.880 lot of people that say, even if he won Super Bowls, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:21.360 Justin was my guy? Is that Brady, for all his greatness, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:28.200 is viewed as almost robotic in his dominance, and it 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:33.400 doesn't curry love or favor or duplication from young people. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.560 So I did. You're right. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.680 We've never talked about this, and I so I've never 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.560 this is I enjoy when we do this because I 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.000 am hearing this for the first time. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.599 I haven't if you've talked about it on the show 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:46.120 or on the pot. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.880 I haven't heard it, so this's the first time my 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:53.280 brain's ever considering this, but it is. I also was 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.479 trying to think, like, have I heard anyone like the 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.360 only Mahomes talks about Brady, but only in the He's 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.880 the goat, he's got seven Super Bowl rings. I want 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.640 to do, but not as far as I mimick myself 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:12.880 after him. So I I wonder why that is and 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.799 what you have? You know, what you've landed on I 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:24.719 think is probably right, which is I Now, again, you're 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.960 much better at the analogies than me. Uh, certainly on 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.040 the fly. But there's a level of like when you 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:38.920 look at the wealthiest people in world history, I don't 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.960 know what the guy's name is, but the dude who 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.160 started us Steel is on the list. But the reason 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.680 I don't know what the name is is because like 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.920 nobody's been like that's who I'm gonna be. But they 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.560 say Steve Jobs, you know what I mean? They say, Now, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.480 Rockefeller did a lot elon lous those things. Rockefeller is 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.400 probably because he put his name on a lot of things. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.080 But there is a level of that. I remember Brady 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.960 being on your show around the time he went to Tampa, 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.680 maybe a year after, maybe after he'd won the Super Bowl, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.440 the last super Bowl in Tampa. I don't know, but 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:22.000 I remember you talking to him about retiring and he said, well, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.800 it's never been easier. He didn't use those words, but 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.760 what his point he said with the words he did use, 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.960 I think, were I have all the answers to the test, 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.960 now why would I stop taking it? I remember like 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.880 that exact thing where he was like I I like 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.479 you said, I go to the line. I know exactly 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.680 what the defense is doing, so I know exactly the 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.280 play we have to be in and boom and it also, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.920 and this is a quote I've said to you before, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.200 but it Seth Payne, who played in the NFL for 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.159 a number of years, does radio now in Houston, and 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.440 I worked with him there. He would talk about how 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:08.160 offensive coordinators would leave the Patriots and think, oh, I 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.800 can turn this quarterback into Tom Brady because or a 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.520 poor man's tom Brady, because Tom Brady was not impressive 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:20.680 from a measurable's talent standpoint. And what Seth said is, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.080 but none of those guys left the Patriots was like, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.560 I can turn this receiver into Randy Moss because it 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:31.240 was obvious, No, you can't. And his point was, Brady's 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:37.239 brain is Randy Moss's, and discipline is Randy Moss's. Forty 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.640 time and vertical. They just didn't because you can't see it. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.000 People think, oh, Jimmy Garoppolo can do it because he's 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.880 got you know, these guys can Matt Castle can do it. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.000 But they couldn't. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.760 But even though the measurables were the same. So it 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:59.880 does make sense. What if your biggest talent is not 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.480 apparent to people watching you. It's just it's not an 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.400 it's not an aspect, right like there there are probably 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.320 more people. It's so fascinating you say that, because it's right. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:19.200 We have all heard more quarterbacks say I grew up 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.880 wanting to be Mike Vick than wanting to be Tom Brady. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.360 We have heard more people say, certainly more people a 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.800 generation ago, I want to be Dan Marino. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:30.760 Then I want to you know what I mean? Then 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.280 I want to be Brady. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:37.120 And Aaron Aaron is clearly generationally the guy that most 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.400 wanted to be And there. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.400 Is a level of and so I guess since you 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.720 brought up Kobe, the basketball comp would be how many 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.319 guys came up. How many guys have we seen to 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.400 feel like, you know who I modeled my game after. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:55.960 Tim Duncan. Won fifty games every year, right, But Duncan. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.680 Duncan, same exact era as Kobe and in my opinion, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.199 one slot on the all time list above him, never 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.080 had a down year, never missed the playoffs, you know, 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.199 all the ruthlessly efficient. But nobody has tried to be 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.800 Tim Duncan. Nobody, So he came into the league twenty 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.360 five years ago. Not a single person that I can 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.080 think of came into the league being like, that's who 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.680 I'm trying to be Tim Duncan. And I don't think 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.400 now I understand some of that's personality, but also it 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:32.559 is because nobody could deny what he did was effective 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.720 and great, but it wasn't. It doesn't seem fun to 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.800 emulate like. You will have more people, I guess on 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.440 that note, and this is wearing a bit of a 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.679 Kyrie renaissance, and I'm happy for him about it, But 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:53.240 you will have more people a generation from now that say, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.360 you know, I grew up trying to be Kyrie than 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.000 I grew up trying to be Chris Ball. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.120 Even though you know what I and I am saying Chris. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.680 Paul never won, but he's but iverson without a doubt, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:14.520 with an iconic, important, influential player in a way, a 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.280 lot of guys who maybe were more successful warrant. That 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:22.600 is interesting that nobody, nobody says I tried to be Tom. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.800 That is fact. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 That is fact, and I'm trying to think if someone 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.000 had said it. But a lot of people call him 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.360 the goat. In fact, basically everyone does. But as far 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.319 as who they modeled their game after, it is unique. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.720 And a lot of people say Aaron a lot saying. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.440 A lot, Well, he's got much more artistic flair. He 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.720 throws basically off the ground, he whips it. He feels 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:54.560 more off the cuff, more improvisational. Tom never feels improvisational. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.080 And it's you know, it's just And I do think 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:04.600 justin Herbert is actually Brady's smart disciplined teammates get the 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:09.240 credit big. You don't think Herbert or Brady are big 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.959 because they're thin. Stand next to Tom Brady, Jesus Christ, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:13.440 he right. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.320 Same with Herbert. Herbert obviously is more mobile. That is 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.640 this to be real football y for a moment, I 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.800 wonder if Harrball is going to let him do it, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.800 and with Greg Roman running the offense, maybe they will. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.280 When Herbert was at Oregon, I feel the same way 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.280 about Trevor. Herbert and Trevor by the way they played 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.400 in a playoff game against each other, I think two guys, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:38.199 it's fair to say maybe a touch disappointing for where 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.800 we thought they would be in the quarterback hierarchy at 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:41.839 this point in their career. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.280 Although I think we blame Trevor for some of his failings, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:46.920 I don't think we blame Herbert. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.160 We blame yeah, but. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.960 It's yes, I agree up to this point that's true. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.120 But for both those guys, I'm like, man, I watched 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:01.400 you in college. You were dynamic screening. I mean, in 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.240 that national championship game, Trevor, it might have been the 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.080 national semi final, actually yeah it was. It was when 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.480 they were the defending national champs. They were playing justin 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:15.600 fields in Ohio State. Trevor just took off for sixty 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.640 yards and is running past Ohio State defensive players. And 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.240 he's six six and big and strong, And I just again, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.160 I think you need to pick your spots as a runner. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:32.680 But Trevor and Justin are both obviously more naturally gifted 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.600 runners than Mahomes, and they don't, you know what I mean, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.800 they don't seem to run even as much as he does. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.120 At least I guess maybe the numbers don't bear that out, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.320 but that's how it feels to me. Yeah, I remember 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:45.800 that run by Trevor Lawrenstown. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.080 Unbelievable, man, unbelievable. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.880 I want to end on this because this is near 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.720 and dear to your heart, because you like Houston and 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:03.600 spent time there. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.880 C J. Stroud we played a game the other day 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.319 on the air, and. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.960 I used to watch American Idol and I always said 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.480 I don't know music, but I think I'm pretty good, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:16.800 and I've proven it at the volume. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.880 I'm pretty good at spotting something. Spotting talent. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.840 Danny Parkins is somebody I spotted early and thought, you know, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.880 you told hey, listen to this guy. I listened to 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.800 a segment in Chicago, and I'm like, Yeah, that's the guy. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.679 Let's get him in. I called FS one get him 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.360 on the air, blah blah blah, as you did, and 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.320 so whatever that thing is, I think I can watch 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.120 somebody not have an agenda and just go that's it, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:42.959 even if it's music. And so Stroud's comp was Goff 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.840 and I had said coming out, that's not a terrible comp. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:47.960 You got to do a super Bowl. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.040 But there's a kind of lack of juice with golf 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.839 and sometimes a lack of juice with c J. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:54.400 Stroud. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.040 I'm watching his second game with CJ. Stroud out and 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.040 I'm like, oh shit. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:04.360 This is easy. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.120 He's backpedaling forty yards in a tiny box like twice 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.160 in the second quarter, and I'm like, whoo, that is different. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:19.040 And it's really fascinating because at Ohio State, I've wondered 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.320 why I didn't spot it, and I think to myself, well, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.600 he couldn't beat Michigan. But then there was the Georgia 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.640 game where he was fantastic, and I've punished myself on CJ. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:30.040 Stroud. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.400 I've said why can't I Why didn't I see it? 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.800 And then in the NFL instantly, second game, second quarter, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.160 I'm like, oh, yep, that's it. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:38.680 That's a start. He's gonna work. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.040 First game Herbert played against Mahomes. Yeah, the first time 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.080 I watched him, he made a throw up the right sideline. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.240 I'm like, yeah, that was I hated it so much. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.880 I was. I remember this, Brussard had just gotten over 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:52.920 to my house to watch the game. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:53.720 This years ago. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.080 Brussard wasn't even full time on the show yet, and 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.560 I'm like, oh, this is great Chiefs versus Tyrode Taylor. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:01.920 Kick my feet up. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.040 And in the moment I hear Tyrod Taylor got stabbed 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.200 In's lung and Justin Herbert's gonna play, I'm like. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.720 Well, this game just got a lot harder. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.600 And then and then and then I'm watching and I'm like, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.240 well this division just got a lot harder for the 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.560 next decade, Like this guy is, this guy's gonna be good, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.160 but go ahead. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.400 Sorry that so CJ Stroud to me. I find myself 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.800 rooting for him because I don't mind being wrong, and 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.480 I like good quarterback play. But I have gone back 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.720 and I'm like, I watched the Georgia game. Why didn't 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.760 I just say after the Georgia game, this guy's unbelievable. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.560 But I find it funny when and I and I 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.960 said I think God, I kept saying on the ear, yeah, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.800 I think Goff is the right thing. He stands in 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.760 the pocket, he throws he's gonna be very successful. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:42.480 He'll win games. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.640 But there's a juice with both that you're kind of 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.200 waiting for a little pop, a little energizer bunny here 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.960 and and and neither's a great runner. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.720 But CJ can move? Do you ever have that? How 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.440 when you when you miss on a guy? And I 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.440 don't really think CJ. Stroud's miss but he's much. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.040 Better than I thought, and way earlier, way earlier. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.760 I didn't resent it. I'm like, God, this is exciting 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.680 as shit. This guy's good. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.160 Have you ever and you, I don't know if you 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.280 watch college basketball, but I watch a ton of college 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.760 football a ton. And when you miss on somebody? Has 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:20.560 there been after? 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.480 I go ahead? You were slow on? You were so 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:24.240 all right? 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.600 So I'll answer that and then I have something throwback 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.400 at you. So there definitely been guys. So I mean 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.800 the number one guy would be Jokic. That that I 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.880 just I thought Jokic was really good, but not all 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.160 time great. And I yeah, by the way, I still 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.160 kind of resent the fact that he is three MVPs 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:51.400 because so much of our discussion of the NBA right 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:56.320 now makes more sense and is to me more historically 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.920 representative if Jannis has two, Jokic has two, and Luca 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.399 has won. If that were the count and Lucas about 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.440 wins this title, then people are comfortable saying, oh, maybe 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.360 he's the best player, but so Yo kitch I was definitely. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.760 Late on uh. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.880 I'm more in the other direction, maybe more often, which 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.920 is if I love a guy, I am very hard 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.639 pressed to give up on him, Hence Baker, where I'm like, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:28.320 now he'll turn it around. And some people would say 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.679 that's how I am with Trevor that I just this 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.720 guy was the best high school player in a generation. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:41.400 I watched him at Clemson be so utterly dominant. You 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:46.480 can't tell me against Alabama Alabama teams he has all. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.880 You can't tell me that he's not going to be 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.280 a top five NFL quarterback. Now he seems to you know, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.439 not be able to handle the rain, which is a 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.000 problem playing in Jacksonville. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:00.640 He fumbles. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.960 But there are some real like I thought he would 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.320 be further along at this point. I still think he 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.560 is maybe unfairly criticized by some and so I'll be 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.600 late to get off that. And if Brockberdy ends up 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.159 being a star, I'll probably be the last one on 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.720 that train, like there is, so there is uh so yeah, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.000 I do think I have, you know, preconceived notion bias 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:30.880 that plays into things, but it pays dividends in times 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.239 like with Luca. So, Luca was a guy that I 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.800 was talking about on First Things First when he was 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.119 when our first year on the air, when he was 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.359 a year away from being draft eligible. He was I 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.560 have a tweet from vague where I tweet I'm not 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.840 supposed to be on my phone because I'm on vacation 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:56.320 with my wife, but I needed to send this. The 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.440 Sons will regret not taking Luca number one. And when 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:05.080 people were It's not like anyone was ever super down 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.119 on him, but there was a little James Hardeney and 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.160 how he plays all of it. I was like, no, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.800 that guy is going to be one of the best 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.880 players offensive players we've ever seen. And this postseason run 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.560 last year was hard for me. Last year I picked 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.600 them to win the championship before the season they missed 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.119 the fucking play it, and I was like, nope, not 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:31.480 Lucas back. So I do I tend I try not 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.800 to hold against a guy if I didn't love him 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:35.840 coming out of school. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:37.000 And he's been excellent. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.320 But I am it is hard for me to abandon 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.000 a guy I did love. But the game you played 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.880 with j Mac, do you want it? Can we play 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:49.439 it real quick? So? 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.560 Is this for the next five years? How? 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:51.639 What? 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:52.960 What's the parameters? 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.720 Let's say is right now? It doesn't even the timeline. 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.240 You're a general manager, so you have to come up 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:00.240 with the timeline, right. 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.760 But I'm a GM. Everything counts. We're both gms. Okay, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.600 I'll give you first because you want. 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.280 Yes, I do, Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, I'll 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.240 go Josh Allen. 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:18.639 All right, if I'm being honest. My next pick is 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:23.760 Caleb and I know he would have been available and later, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:25.000 but I couldn't. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.639 I know, I got what I understand that that is, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.359 he would have been available later. 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:38.240 But I but Iah, go ahead, Okay, I'll take Lamar Jackson. Okay, 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.600 that's then I feel it great because this is the 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:41.440 guy I would have taken. 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:43.359 Next, I will take c j. 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.680 Okay now, just on value proposition, although I worry about 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:50.280 his injuries. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.040 I'll take Joe Burrow at six. Yeah, I'm worried about 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:53.600 those injuries. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:53.960 Buddy. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.120 I agree with you. I know. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.399 So there's a guy that you and I I would 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.359 both only because I know you love him so much. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.440 I might want him, but I'm not. I just am sorry. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.000 I'm going through the league quickly. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:11.439 Here. 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:19.640 All right, this is there's this is not. This does 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.160 not make sense from a value perspective timeline. But I'm 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.560 trying to win this. GM is on the hot seat, 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:29.760 and he's trying to win right now. I'm taking Matt Stafford, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.919 by the way, I absolutely know you do. 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.240 That's why I was worried. I was like, you're gonna 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.919 swoop in and get him. Yeah, So because of that, 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.200 I'll take Justin Herbert eight. Okay, that's all right, that's good. 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:48.800 I'll take Trevor. Okay, okay, hold on, I'm gonna take 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:53.119 Jordan Love. That's a good pick. I gotta tell you. 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:54.720 So now we have eleven and twelve. 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.520 I gotta tell you that's a good all right now, 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.760 I gotta think I'm going through, like in my head 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:02.800 the divisions. 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.080 All right, well, no, how many picks are we doing? 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:07.080 We do sixteen? 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:14.080 So yeah, you have Mahomes me, Allen, you, Caleb me, Lamar, you, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.719 c J Stroud, me, Burrow, you Stafford, I'm on Herbert, you, 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:19.480 Trevor me. 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.960