WEBVTT - Christine Lakin Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Always fly in the same underwear I fly. I fly

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<v Speaker 1>to somewhere, like to a place in Captain America, and

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<v Speaker 1>I fly home in Spider Man. Oh my god, No, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this is a real question. You're kidding, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. I love it. You fly somewhere, so that

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<v Speaker 1>means you have multiple Captain America underwear. I have one

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America and one Spider Man. So I my my

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<v Speaker 1>my to the destination is Captain America and my home

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<v Speaker 1>from the destination is Spider Man. Always. I always have

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<v Speaker 1>a D twenty three D twenty on me. I have

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<v Speaker 1>certain rituals that I always It's one of the Doe,

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<v Speaker 1>so I always have one on me. I've always got

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<v Speaker 1>my Marvel underwear. I've got to I've got a ritual.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I do. Oh my god, I love you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can never like d C underwear would be anathema,

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<v Speaker 1>right like I've got some deep No, I've got I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a great oh Man. One of my favorite underwear.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally have Batman underwear with a removable cape. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a cape over the button, over the butt,

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<v Speaker 1>a small Batman cape over the Where do you find these?

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<v Speaker 1>They do not. I cannot believe they make grown Man

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<v Speaker 1>they do underpants. It gets work because not only not

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<v Speaker 1>only do I find them, but my wife will also

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<v Speaker 1>buy them for me. Okay, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to break down the cape over the butt. Okay, flying

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<v Speaker 1>it might be. It's got it's little. It's got a

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<v Speaker 1>little utility belt around it, like a little Batman utility belt. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the way it should be. I've got a cape

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<v Speaker 1>on my chair. Look at my chair. My chair is

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<v Speaker 1>Batman drinking again again, just because the next time I

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<v Speaker 1>fly with Will, I don't want to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I know what underwear and now I do

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<v Speaker 1>I will. There you go, you're gonna know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of Deadpool underwear that I wear when I

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<v Speaker 1>do our panels too. I'm sorry. The question for me becomes,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have lucky underwear that you wear for certain things? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Not interesting? Great? Great Deadpool, I've got a really good Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fun kind of underwear or underwear as

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<v Speaker 1>I like you said underwear. I did. I absolutely did

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<v Speaker 1>like the Bob Ross ones are great until I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of heard that his family kind of gets screwed out

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<v Speaker 1>of the royalties so I don't really wear my Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Ross ones anymore. Um so I was like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not cool. But oh yeah, no you I run the

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<v Speaker 1>game and I've got some d C stuff. I had

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<v Speaker 1>my eye and a great pair of Aquaman shorts, but

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<v Speaker 1>the underwear, but they were gone, Like you turn your

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<v Speaker 1>back and they're gone. So you gotta jump on that

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<v Speaker 1>when you get the chance. Pretty much. Yeah, well all right,

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<v Speaker 1>these were things I never never knew and probably never

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<v Speaker 1>needed to know, but um, somehow I'm actually really happy

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<v Speaker 1>I know them. Well. I've always heard that, like actors

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<v Speaker 1>are suspicious people. You know, they're superstitious, superstitious. Sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, superstitious people. I mean you know you

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<v Speaker 1>have there's so many rituals, right, like everyone has their

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<v Speaker 1>lucky socks, everyone has their like you can't say the

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish play in the theater. You know, there's all these traditions.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, because you have to make something up,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to court in something magical. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>completely convince your brain that like, oh I'm actually this

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<v Speaker 1>person on stage right now, or I'm experiencing this real emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that is a superstitious process, Like that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's bad, but it also gets bad too because

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<v Speaker 1>I had a hat that I wore for every single

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<v Speaker 1>recording session I did for every animated series I did,

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<v Speaker 1>or every voice over four years. And I was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there one time wearing it and one of the actors

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<v Speaker 1>turned to me and said, if you lose that hat,

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<v Speaker 1>are you never gonna work again? Like what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And it got into my head where I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to break this habit of wearing this thing

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<v Speaker 1>every time because in my head, I'm gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>my hat fell apart, I'm never So I literally just

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<v Speaker 1>started to not wear it because it got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, and it was like, yeah, it can't be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. The underwear is more just fun. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like anything bad's gonna happen to me if I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>wearing it, but it will. Yeah, just saying I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any of those I don't have any of nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any rituals that you do at all whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 1>Like nothing, And I'm not talking because there's something like

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Farley was famous for apparently being kind of O

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<v Speaker 1>C D where when he would go onto the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>run out of the stage for SNL, he had to

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<v Speaker 1>touch certain things a number of times, lick certain things

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<v Speaker 1>the number of times, like it got to a mental illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas but you don't have anything where it's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always change in my left pocket, or there's always

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<v Speaker 1>the I wear this or I do that. No showtime

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<v Speaker 1>rituals at all. Well, like I definitely have designated pockets

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<v Speaker 1>for stuff, but that's not like that's just a organizational tool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an organizational tool. Yeah. No, No, there's nothing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no ritual, there's no magical like you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even knock on wood. You know, I've noticed you knock

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<v Speaker 1>on wood, and although I knock on wood all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I liked our traditions backstage. I liked our

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<v Speaker 1>or you know you will you and I had our

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<v Speaker 1>handshake are high five, yeah, and we pretended to bash

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<v Speaker 1>our foreheads into each other. Yeah, the football high five,

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<v Speaker 1>football high five, right, uh, and then we did the

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<v Speaker 1>screen backstage. But yeah, I mean I think when we

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<v Speaker 1>were on Boy Meets World, I did have more of them,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think there was consistency to Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>where I could have something like you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time I wore that a Yin Yang

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<v Speaker 1>thumb ring. I think I was like obsessed with making

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<v Speaker 1>sure I had that thumb ring on for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I had it. It was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never taking it off, and I think, maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see this on the show. This is quite possibly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the same necklace for years. Yeah, you wear

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<v Speaker 1>the same necklace. I think I did. I don't remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly what it was. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had a thing about gum. I chewed gum all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet you know, obviously you shouldn't chew gum on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I had a thing about like always

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<v Speaker 1>having a piece of gum in my mouth until right

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<v Speaker 1>before we went out. Then it probably went on the

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<v Speaker 1>gum wall um and so I know, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>I probably had more of them then. Where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every week you're doing the same thing, and it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to get into like I like to do this thing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you know, and I did for a long

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, insist on stopping my gas in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I would get gas on an even dollar amount,

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<v Speaker 1>and I inherited that from my mom who likes and

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<v Speaker 1>but then I would have this anxiety if it went

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<v Speaker 1>over by a penny, and then I'd have to go

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<v Speaker 1>up to another dollar. And then there were multiple times

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<v Speaker 1>my car gas tank overflowed, gas pouring out of the

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<v Speaker 1>side of it because I was trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>an even dollar amount until one day, I literally just

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<v Speaker 1>one day said this is dumb. I'm not doing it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't done it since, so I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>still do it just for fun to see if I

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<v Speaker 1>can stop. Like to me, it's more personal failure like

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<v Speaker 1>ah fifty one like but other than that, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm it's not like a thing. I just I like

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<v Speaker 1>to see the zeros. Well, welcome to Pod Meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited about our guest today. I say

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<v Speaker 1>that every week, but it's true. We've got so many

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<v Speaker 1>amazing guests and I'm I'm always excited about them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Christine Laken with us today who played al Lambert.

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<v Speaker 1>Her full name was actually Alicia Lambert, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I knew that. I think I just always knew

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<v Speaker 1>her as Al Lambert. She did a hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Step by Step, which was by two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>They also did seven seasons and um. She has also

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<v Speaker 1>heard on Family Guy as Joyce Kinney, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>now directing for shows like The Goldberg's and High School Musical,

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<v Speaker 1>The Musical, The Series, and most importantly today, She guest

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<v Speaker 1>starred on an episode of Boy Meets World called Getting

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<v Speaker 1>Hitched in season six. So please welcome Christine Lincoln. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, it's so nice to see you. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>nice to see you all. You just had a big weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You were I'm really tired. Tell me tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>your weekend. Um, my son turned four. Your baby is four.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it. It really makes me want to cry. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned four, and we were going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>pool party at grandma and Grandpa's because you know it

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<v Speaker 1>would spend only a hundred and five. But when you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking as a parent, you're just like, yeah, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make this happen. Well, what can we do pool time?

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<v Speaker 1>So I had the whole thing set up and then

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday was rain right, that's right, the one one day

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<v Speaker 1>in four years. It rains. It's work. People out with

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<v Speaker 1>me all the time with these parties. So I'm like driving,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on Friday, and I'm realizing it's rain and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like cold calling magicians. I'm like, I'm like calling people, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know any entertainment? What can I do here?

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<v Speaker 1>So I found someone, Sam Shazam showed up. He was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even need to know what he do. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had the party on Saturday and that was

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. And then yesterday I hosted the Burbank International

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<v Speaker 1>Film Festival. Incredible, Yes, and there were some really exciting

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<v Speaker 1>movies in this festival, I have to tell you. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was very fun. But it was a very long weekend. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a long weekend for sure. So I'm excited. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about you last night with my husband

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<v Speaker 1>because we you know, Jensen carp is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>executive producers of this podcast, and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>having you on, and he said, where did you and

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<v Speaker 1>Christine meet? And I went, I don't know. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same thought. Honestly, this morning, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>when did I actually meet Christine? It was like no,

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<v Speaker 1>he just kind of were in each other's lives like

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. But I had no idea when it

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<v Speaker 1>first happened. And that's so that's what I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to ask. Is this just a thing for all of

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<v Speaker 1>us nineties kids who grew up doing this stuff? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we just not remember where we where we met or

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<v Speaker 1>do you actually have a memory of it, Christine, I,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a specific memory of the day that

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<v Speaker 1>like we all met, but I do know for a

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<v Speaker 1>fact that because of us being in the same block

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<v Speaker 1>of t G I f I feel like we went

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<v Speaker 1>to certain ABC parties together, Like there were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were things like that. Um, I definitely remember, Um, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I would go to some charity events. I

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<v Speaker 1>have so many great pictures of us at charity events,

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<v Speaker 1>like around Halloween when we would hand out yeah, bowling

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween where we handed out candy to people. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember. I think that's I think, because yeah, That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing is that I'll say to Jensen like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of those parties, and it's like, we really

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<v Speaker 1>sound like we were partying in the nineties and we

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<v Speaker 1>really weren't. But there were a lot of I guess

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<v Speaker 1>functions where they were bringing us all out everyone from

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<v Speaker 1>even not even just the t G I F block,

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<v Speaker 1>but like kind of all the ABC stars and shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were ABC events and and then that was

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<v Speaker 1>just the network events. There was also like Tiger Beat

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<v Speaker 1>would do an event. Yeah, and then like Ronald McDonald

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<v Speaker 1>was always a really big one. My mom was very into,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me doing things for a charity and um

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<v Speaker 1>and I always really enjoyed that too, so we did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Make a Wish and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to remember I lived in Atlanta, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any friends in l A really, and so

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<v Speaker 1>all of these events were kind of like my social outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>I would meet people and see people. But it's very

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<v Speaker 1>strange because now, I mean she would take pictures at

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, and I was going through stuff last

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<v Speaker 1>year because they were my parents were moving out of

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<v Speaker 1>my childhood home. The pictures I found some of these

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<v Speaker 1>events with like people of all kinds. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was like people from the cast of Melbury's Place and

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<v Speaker 1>like Tatiana Ali Jenavanoy, like any kid that was on

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<v Speaker 1>a show, like the kids from Roman Improvement. Yes, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of those were you. I have a question going back

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<v Speaker 1>to when we met in the weird places we would

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<v Speaker 1>hang out. Were you at the famous like Tiger Beat

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<v Speaker 1>paintball day where they just handed us all that was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun shooting at each other. You can paintball there.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally know I had tennis ball sized welts on

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<v Speaker 1>my body. We went paintball, dude. One of the most

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<v Speaker 1>vicious things I still have ever seen to this day

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<v Speaker 1>is Jenna FNOI who I think I might have been

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<v Speaker 1>dating at the time. I don't know if we had

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<v Speaker 1>broken up yet, but we were definitely still friends. Was

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<v Speaker 1>forgot you dated Jenna? I did. Yeah, we're on with

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<v Speaker 1>both of your red Toyota Selica confirmed. Yes, No, she

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<v Speaker 1>had white. She hers is white. I was ready. Hers

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<v Speaker 1>was red. I thought you had watching. I'm almost positive

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<v Speaker 1>hers was red because I knew all I knew from

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. All I wanted was a red Toyota

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<v Speaker 1>Celica convertible. But I thought, and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>because of Jenna, but maybe it was. You might have

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<v Speaker 1>mine wasn't a convertible. Well you'll see it. I still

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<v Speaker 1>have it. Anyway. Jenna and I lived like next door

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. She's the best She's like the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>person in the world, the weird world, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>what I witnessed was so horrifying, which was we're on

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<v Speaker 1>different teams, and she like falls down and goes like

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<v Speaker 1>hang on, hang on, and so the ref comes over.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like okay, and she stands up and walks away.

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<v Speaker 1>She's about six feet away, and the ref goes all right,

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<v Speaker 1>game on, and Shiloh pops up out of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 1>pops her twice in the back from five feet away,

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<v Speaker 1>and just her and down and Shilo running away there

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't remember being there. You were, you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was where I want to say, we

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<v Speaker 1>drove up together. It was some like far away. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was like an angel and Vicky was like

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<v Speaker 1>an angel and Vicky thing because then it started a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a session for me. Yes, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like a Castaic or on the way to Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>or something. And the guy and I I forget his name,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so terrible, but the guy, the kid from Baywatch,

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<v Speaker 1>had like his own guns and like brought his own stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were like, okay, let's stay away from this kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was like the kid from who the guy

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<v Speaker 1>from Baywatch, Jeremy Jeremy Jackson. Jeremy Jackson. Jeremy Jackson was

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<v Speaker 1>armed to the teeth. Um. So yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I went to that. I do remember getting invited because

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<v Speaker 1>Vicky would like, come and do step aerobics with us

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<v Speaker 1>Aerobics by Step Yes new T shirt. She would go

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<v Speaker 1>see and her husband had that that company, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would go and they would train realize for our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>for our listeners. You've heard us talk about this a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. We had Angel and Vicky who owned

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<v Speaker 1>like their own personal training company. It was personal and

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<v Speaker 1>they were they were hired by I don't know who,

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<v Speaker 1>the production company or Disney with the studio and and

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<v Speaker 1>they would go around to all of the different sets

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<v Speaker 1>and train the kids for their pe time and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basketball with you or if you wanted to do step aerobics,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did. They of course you wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>step around. One day I got it. I was like Angel,

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<v Speaker 1>I should actually work out and we like get push up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like one time and it was always just like

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out. Thomas thrown elbows. Yeah. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>scared of the paintball because I think. I remember Jen

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<v Speaker 1>telling me she got welts and I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't I don't think I can do it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'll perish. It was vicious. I mean it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like a double tap to the middle of the back.

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<v Speaker 1>At five, it started for me a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>paintball obsession. I went multiple times, did you really, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a picture of me somewhere on like

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of a paintball magazine. That's actually it's at

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<v Speaker 1>the place where you play paintball. Come all right, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to find that, man, I don't think I do

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<v Speaker 1>have to find that, um right now. Yeah. Another thing

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<v Speaker 1>we have noticed about us child actors is that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of us seemed to have started acting at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of ten. How old were you when you started

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<v Speaker 1>acting and how did you get into it so professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>I think my first job I was eight. We moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta. When I moved to Atlanta when I was six,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I you know, I was always very tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>so doing like team sports was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge. So my mom got me involved in dance

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, while we moved to New City, like

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in something and So I was doing lots

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<v Speaker 1>of dance and I saw that there were acting classes

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<v Speaker 1>at this studio and I wanted to know what that was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had been doing I mean, I've been putting

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<v Speaker 1>on plays on like under the mantel of the fireplace

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. So my mom basically said, it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>class where you act out characters. I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>like Carol Burnett signed me up. I basically started acting classes.

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<v Speaker 1>After a couple months, the teacher said, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also a manager, as as many of them. And she

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<v Speaker 1>said I I have you thought about from your kid

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<v Speaker 1>in commercials? And my parents were like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>roll not really. Well she seems to like it. Well

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go on a few. We'll just do it for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I book a bunch of national commercials. My mom finally says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should get an agent. So that I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fell into it in that way. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing lots of theater in Atlanta, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>booked a couple like small movies that came through, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing with my theater company, doing a show

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<v Speaker 1>at a resort in South Georgia, and a manager from

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles happened to be there with her family vacationing,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then you know, she my mom just decided

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<v Speaker 1>to they hit it off. They decided to just keep chatting.

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<v Speaker 1>And a year later, my mom brought me out for

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<v Speaker 1>spring break to do some like auditions and like make

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<v Speaker 1>a demo tape because there was no zoom and I

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<v Speaker 1>looked across the country. So I made this like beta max,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tape of me doing this monologue and like

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<v Speaker 1>crying and whatever. And Bob Boyett happened to see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean talk about it's all kid, isn't um?

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<v Speaker 1>He saw it, uh randomly from the control booth um

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<v Speaker 1>And two months later they were casting. Step by step

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<v Speaker 1>they had cast someone else in the role and she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it, and they pulled out and they was

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<v Speaker 1>like the last person to be cast. I've seen everyone,

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and finally the Bob boy it was like getting me

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that girl who was crying in the monologue, Let's see her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get home one day and they're like, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's like, they want to see you in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>for a for a TV show. And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous. No one flies across the country to audition

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<v Speaker 1>for a TV show, and my dad was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the frequent flyer miles, like, go for it minute,

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>why not? It's unless you don't want to, that's fine too.

0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So I was like no, I mean I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to. So I came out, I auditioned, and literally

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<v Speaker 1>the next day I had the job. Wow and Miller

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<v Speaker 1>boy Yet at the time, Yeah, Miller Boyette was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like being found by the biggest of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>in TV. Mean, Miller Boyette was doing everything, I mean

0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 1>legend like Happy Days of Vernon early, like all of

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<v Speaker 1>the shows. So yeah, it was and wild and so

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<v Speaker 1>then did you move to l a full time? Did

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<v Speaker 1>your family come? How did that work? Then? So my

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<v Speaker 1>mom came out with me. We obviously we shot the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and then it's like Stacy Keenan, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all these people like Stacy Keenan, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm like I'm like freaking out, Like I

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 1>had watched her growing up, um, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knew who Susan Summers was because I used

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<v Speaker 1>to watch reruns of Three Company. I was like a

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>real rerun kid, like I watched everything. I didn't watch

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Dallas obviously, but enough of my mom's friends told me

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<v Speaker 1>who Patrick Duffie was, um and so and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Keenan's mom was like, oh, these pilots, they never

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<v Speaker 1>got it, kid. Yeah, and my parents were not in

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<v Speaker 1>the business like they wanted to just you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>me very normal. So we decided to. When it got

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<v Speaker 1>picked up, we got an apartment. We lived in the Oakwood. Yeah, Oakwood,

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh goood. You know, you just rent everything like corporate housing.

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<v Speaker 1>So we lived there for a little while. And then

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<v Speaker 1>after you know, a few months we've been doing the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we got robbed at the oak Wood. At the Oakwood

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story. I don't know. I've never heard about

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<v Speaker 1>a rod haven't either. I thought it was that was

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<v Speaker 1>frowned upon the dark underbelly of the Oakwood. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the one in the Marina because we worked

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple of years we were at Culver Studios.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Okay, I don't know. Like then I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Venice Beach all the time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like buying like the Crystal next lived. I lived at

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<v Speaker 1>the Marina del Rey Oakwood for a season. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>did really Yeah, pre pre Boy Meets World, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was filming a show called Julie with Julie Andrews, I

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<v Speaker 1>lived at the Marina del Rey. Uh as well, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>they must have been Yeah, yeah, were at the Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>we are Cool City Studios. Yeah it was yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you also get robbed there? Then let's get back

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to Christine's robbing. Christine, Please, I'd like to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>you getting robbed. Well, we come home from rehearsal and

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom, I'm like doing homework or something. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom keeps asking me if I've seen stuff, Christine. Have

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you seen the stamps? No? Have you seen my cameras?

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<v Speaker 1>They stole your stamps, damps y'all. They were mailing so

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<v Speaker 1>many things. They had so many things to mail um

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and your camera. Yes, because they're friends. Uh So, then

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's like, check your jewelry and I'm like, huh

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>so I go on my little with all my little

0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:49.679
<v Speaker 1>necklaces and things, and everything's gone, as crystals from my

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.640
<v Speaker 1>game boy is gone, my mom video parents gone, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, not all the things, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know. So so they either very clean robbers

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<v Speaker 1>or was your house just regularly looked like it had

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<v Speaker 1>been ransacked. It didn't look landsacked. It was only like

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.640
<v Speaker 1>when you opened the drawers you saw the look clean thiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they did? I'm sorry, this is where my mind goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to like the security. Did they check

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<v Speaker 1>the tapes? Did they do like all the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or was like, hey, security, I like security. He's obsessed

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with security. He wants to know about security. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what security situation is. Did they check the tapes?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there were even tapes back though the

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 1>dead bolt had been tampered with, But they thought, because

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they were all those gates, like good security

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.399
<v Speaker 1>system there, good security system. The cops thought maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was an inside job. I was gonna say, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was your mom try and scare you out

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles. Someone had knocked on the door a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of nights before and either trying saying they were

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>selling something or looking for an apartment, and oh they

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<v Speaker 1>had they were totally casing when we were gonna But

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>here's what happened. So my mom is obviously like really distraught.

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<v Speaker 1>It was scary. I was like, I've been in Los

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Angeles for a month and a half and like we

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<v Speaker 1>got robbed. Like this does not bode well. And what

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<v Speaker 1>I will say about like not only those producers like

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Miller Boy, yet that show they rallied around us. They

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.959
<v Speaker 1>got out of that least, they literally put us up

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<v Speaker 1>in a hotel and then they took my mom and

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 1>like with somebody, and they showed her like two or

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>three apartments and like they had people from the production

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>company guys. They came over and got all our stuff out.

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. And then I sound environment. It was

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>just really lovely. And then like I remember walking, you know,

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>into rehearsal like the next day, and Patrick Duffy had

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>a m like a Best Buy bag. It was a

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>different kind of store, but he had bought me a

0:23:55.480 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>new game Boy. I was just like really yeah. So

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>then we moved to Park Lebria, which is like the

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.239
<v Speaker 1>other it's like the yuppy like townhouses. Right, would they

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have better Do they have better security? I was going

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to ask, they had really good security. We lived in

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the big towers and they were like the old from

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>like nineteen I don't know when those are built nineties

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>or something. I had outside my windows like a view

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Angeline poster. Yeah the best. I love that. Yes,

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>so crazy, And you know it was fine. It was

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of older people lived there, so we

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>basically lived with like it was like and I felt

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>like we lived in like a geriatric And so what

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>year was Yeah? Were you guys? Wait? Wait? Were years?

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>The first season? Ninety one? Okay, I thought I started.

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 1>And so it sounds like just from the little bit

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you've told us, it sounds like the environment on set

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was really great. But tell us more about what it

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>was like on that set. What was the environment like,

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>do you have a favorite memory? Who were you closest

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to and who did you hate? Who was the worst?

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Give us some juicy juicy detail. Um, yeah, we were

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>all we were close and it was it was really idyllic,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to say, like we had a very close

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>knit family. Um, a lot of those people had worked

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>for Miller way up before. Um. We had Anger. She

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was like our like craft services lady. She was Swedish,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so lovely and she would be like, you know, she

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>was just like a mama, like she was making things

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>for anyone and everyone, and you know, six kids on

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a show. It was like there was a lot going on. Um,

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and we had three different studio teachers. I shared a

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>school room with Brandon call He never wanted to do

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>any work. Um. I was in this like school in Atlanta,

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were still faxing all my information and FedExing everything.

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>We would always go back to Atlanta, so once every

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 1>three or four weeks we'd have a hiatus. My parents

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>are like. My parents were like, here's the deal. We're

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>not going to disrupt our life. The most important thing

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>is her education. And she's in this private school in Atlanta,

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and we're not just move out here, like basically on

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>your whim, so on your dime, you'll send us back

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and forth. And they were like okay. So I back

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>home like every fourth week and had a normal life.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>And then I lived, you know in Atlanta from like

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like February through July. UM. So, but anyway, this set

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like set life was really fun. I mean I don't

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>have brothers and sisters, so it was definitely it was

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>like a brand new world to be around that many

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>kids all the time. So like Stacy and Angela had

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a teacher, the two little boys had a teacher, Josh

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and Chris. And then I was with Brandon, and he

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>was like always like reading like car magazines and like

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>whatever he would like read them behind is like math book.

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean all right, So I have to ask, since

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you met Brandon, since you you've talked about Brandon, Um

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>from one sitcom older brother to another sitcom older brother. Um,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Jason Marsin, I think was you know who's still my

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Dusty was on the show and I think he was

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>there when Brandon got shot. Yes, can you talk about that? Yeah,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Brandon call got shot like a drive by shooting in

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a car. We had some weird moments that happened. So

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe this was like the second to last year. Um. Yeah,

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Jason Nick come on the show playing Rich Halkey, such

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a great energy. Um. Just loved Jason was great. Um

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and Brandon was one night, you know, Brandon

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>always had fancy cars, that was his thing. And one

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>night he was driving home he got in some kind

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of altercation with someone on the road, some kind of

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>road rage altercation, and they ended up kind of like

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>he and this other person were like kind of racing

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>on the road and and Brandon thought he got away

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>from this guy and turned into a neighborhood and ended

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>up being a dead end and when he turned around

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>in the col deside of the person was waiting for him,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and so he just like drove really fast as he

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>past as he could pass him, and he kind of

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>put his head on like this, and the guy shot

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>him like six times and heard there Yeah, I went

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like went through one arm and out the other side

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and hit the other arm and yeah, yeah, And he

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>was really lucky that he survived that. He drove to

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>a police station. How do you know where a police

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>this is pre GPS, you guys, like, oh my gosh,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>six times yeah yeah, and basically just like got out

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of the car and like like passed out on the steps.

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>It was wild. Ye. So you know, I will say,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know for sure, but I really feel

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like that in some ways. I mean, that will change

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you as a person. Um, a traumatic event like that,

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like he, um, he just really had

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>no interest in being in the spotlight anymore. Can't blame him,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean yikes. Yeah, um so yeah,

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of crazy. And when was that? That

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>was probably nine the six Okay, so he's been you

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>guys have been doing the show for five or six

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>years at that end, Yeah, totally. And he was at school,

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like I think I was probably

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>almost like a senior in high school or something in

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the school room together anything. Um, which is like really

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>when we were all like in school together, we were

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>all like hanging out a lot and going and playing

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>jokes and pranks. And then when the older girls, you know,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>we're out, Brandon was out, and it was just like

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>me and the two littles, you know. And I was

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>like deep in high school and so I would have

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>like a million tutors and I was like underwater all

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the time, writing to some freaking paper or whatever. And

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>were you still by like the time you were in

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>fifth sixth season, were you still going home every fourth

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>week to Atlanta? Wow? You kept that pace up through

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>all seven seasons. Yes, And it started we like ended

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>up just keeping an apartment in Los Angeles because it

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>just became you know, so crazy. Um. And but yeah,

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I would go back and forth all the time, and

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was I think like, at the end

0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of the day, when I think about it now, I

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>think it was really smart on my parents part, because

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I really as much as I

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>missed of like a normal life for normal high school. UM.

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I still have very vivid memories of that, and my

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>time there, especially like in the spring, was so concentrated,

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>UM that it really felt like I kind of had

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the best of both worlds. Try I would say to

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>my mom, I can't go back to Atlanta. I don't

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>have any friends, and then I'd go back, and then

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love it there, and I'd be like, I

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go back. I don't have any friends.

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But I know because I mean, I had a very

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>similar experience. I wasn't going back to Atlanta. I was

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just going back to Calabasas High School. But I also

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>every week went back to my regular high school, so

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I got to go to every football game, every school dance.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I I have very vivid memories of being in high

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>school UM. And also was still able to work, so

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I also feel like I got the best of both worlds.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>It's very hard and while you're in it, because there

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>there is no any sort of like, well, I'm behind

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a week now, but that's okay, I'll make it up,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know a month from now, like you really

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>have to be on exactly with where you're school is.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>But it does make it does make you feel like

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you get to really like live a normal life totally.

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like when you went back to school

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe like real school, did you ever feel how

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>what was the vibe like, do people care? Where they like?

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Who cares? No? I mean, it was a lot of

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the same kids I had gone to junior high school

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>with in junior high junior high they cared a little

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>bit more because I was also brand new to Calabasas.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I had come from Orange County, so I didn't know anybody,

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>even from elementary school. And it was kind of like

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I got there and was already on the show or

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>had just started the show, and so they didn't quite

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>understand it. They were like, what are you doing? Where

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>do you Why do you get to leave for three

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>weeks and then just appear. But by the time I

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>got to high school, we were in three, season three

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>or season four, and nobody cared anymore. So it was

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just like Danielle's back and and you know, it was

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>no big deal. But yeah, it's it's interesting. I also

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like in l A it's kind of a different

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so yet you know, or they're like they care, but

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they really like they pretend like they don't care. Atlanta. Yeah,

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole another story, a whole other follow us.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, imagine this. I started seventh grade at a

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>brand new school, and I'm also on this TV show

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that like is the prime audience. Like everyone there's the

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>target audience. And so I remember going to my locker

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the first day because I wasn't there for the first

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>three weeks of school or whatever it was. So this

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the build up had been happening, this girl and she's

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>not here, but she's new when she's on a TV show,

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and what this is crazy? And I remember like putting

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>something in my locker and like turning around and there

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>was like a sea of people just surrounding me getting

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>ready to like ask me questions. Like it was crazy.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It definitely wore off and by the end, you know,

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>by the middle of the first year, nobody cared anymore.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But but did it make you feel popular or did

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you feel like people thought you were like an outcast? No?

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was a complete liability. It's not

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>cool to be famous, let me tell you this, because, um,

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>especially in high school or in middle school, because you

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you always think that other people think that you think

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you're cool, right, you know, and so you're constantly like

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>downplaying all of it because you just want to blend in.

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm cool. I do not think I'm

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>better than anybody, you know, and like I'll talk about

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it if you're interested. But then the more you talk

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>more people like actually doesn't talk about herself and you

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>know what to answer your questions. So, like I mean,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Stacy Keenan and I talked about it all the time.

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>She was like, oh my god, it was a total liability.

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I never wanted to talk about the show like with

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like anyone in high school. Like I just wanted, you know,

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted like everyone to like forget about that.

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I did that for a living. And yeah, well she

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>also came off of my two dads too, so she

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>was like one of those those real kid actors or

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that she was on TV most of her life by

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that point, I have very similar right. Yeah, yeah, she

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>completely walked on and she's like she's a lawyer. She's

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like she's a criminal prosecutor. Prosecutor, Yeah, can you imagine that,

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I was just put in jail by the girl

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>from Step by Step, Like that would be that's what

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>would be weird to be like I'm almost like, can

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you sign my my of Um? So, so yeah, you

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and I have very similar stories with that because it's

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>like we were both from Like I grew up in

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Connecticut and my parents weren't in the industry, and it

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of then like you'd come back to the

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>people you knew, and anytime you opened your mouth thinking

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you were just having a conversation, it was then like,

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>oh you're now you're fully yourself, Like you asked me

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the question like what do you know? Yeah, but they

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to churn butter in Atlanta. You know again,

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I am no longer taking the wrath for that hearing

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 1>that Ryder had to literally stoke the fires at his

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 1>his high school. So yes, can I ask you a question,

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just very briefly going back, Um, because we've talked about

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Danielle Ryder and I've talked about this and so many

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>young actors, I would say of them start in commercials.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the first national commercial that you did? Oh? Yeah,

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I did a commercial for six Flags white Water It

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>was the water park version at six Flags in Atlanta,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>and we shot the commercial in like March. Oh my gosh, freezing,

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 1>freezing to get it done in time for the season,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't open yet, right, So I'm in, like,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the lazy River. And then like one point

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they had us like going in the big waves and

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>we're like the waves and they're like the part of

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the commercial they used as mean lazy river because you know,

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, like, you're having fun, kiding, I know

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>your shivering, just keep smiling. Almost so excited because they

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>gave me makeup, you know, because my list people blew.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I could not, so I mean I did six flags

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and then I mean I did all kinds of weird ones.

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Sweetie Pups that was another one. What is this sweet pop?

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>What is sweetie pup? They were like these little dogs.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>They were like my little ponies, but they were puppies

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and you can like do their hair and stuff like that.

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I did manage commercials. I hated mayonnaise. That was a

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>real nightmare. That one A lot of banks. You know,

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fun though, they were really fun. I enjoyed them because

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the food was amazing and the catering was always listen

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>craft service on national commercials and on shows. It is

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>really it comes up so often on this podcast, and

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I realized how much we sound completely food obsessed because

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I know the catering was delicious. But Danielle, we've talked

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>about this, this is normal life. Because again, if my

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>wife and I what we talked about is what we're

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna have for lunch, Ye, that's food is hugely But

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>also when you're on a set, when you're not working,

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're not actively working, all you're doing is sitting around,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Like people don't realize how much sitting around. And granted,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>when we were kids we were shuffled into school, but

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>when if we didn't have those three hours of four

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>hours of school, the only other place to gathers around

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the food, Like it's around craft service. That's where you

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just I mean your dressing room alone. That's where Tony

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Quinn came on the show. We started picking up hobby,

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>so every day he and I would go to golf,

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>We play cards, we go bowling. It was like because

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they would say, you know you'd by the time the

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>show starts to run, and Christine, you know this too.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like your first second season. It's all

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>about the work. I mean, it's always all about the work,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>but it's all about the schedule, and then by six

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>or seven season we were down to like four days

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a week. We would have to come in at like noon,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we would be done by four. I mean it was

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those things. So there's times where would be

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like we have three hours off, let's go play golf.

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just there's that's what you do

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>because you're moving along. I heard a story recently. Correct

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>me if this is wrong, but recently I was on

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a set and I learned of a very famous actress

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>who wrote her lines in some kind of invisible not

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>invisible to her, but like in some kind of removable

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>pen in any like doorways, door frames, or if she

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>was at a desk on a post it note. She

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>had her lines written everywhere, so no matter where her

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:00.959
<v Speaker 1>blocking was, she would just look and she could read

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>what her line was. I was like, that sounds crazy,

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>who would do that? And then I read somewhere that

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you did the same thing. Is that true? No, So

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the story is that's the thing that Patrick Dusty would do.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>He would sometimes write things like around like you know

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you can tell like watching the show now, because like

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Stacy and I have been rewatching it. Um Stacy never

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>watched the show. She's never right, Okay, So she's watching

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it for the first time and we're talking about it,

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm finding it really fascinating. Are you guys doing

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a podcast? We are? Okay, Okay, we'll talk about that

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>in a second. Yes, But but he would he would

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>constantly do things like that. He also directed a lot

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of the episodes, so you could quietly see him like

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of nudging you to your mark or like taking

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you out of her constantly. And Suzanne she could never

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>do that because she couldn't see the line like she had.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>She had reading glasses, so she would be a little leasy.

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But you can constantly see her checking her mark. She's

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>always break a mark. So no, I I never did that,

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>but we did joke about it on Hollywood Darlings that

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like something that I would do, and it

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>was really just to take off of what Patrick Deffe

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>used to always do. Danielle, can you check the time?

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it time for to talk about mash because oh

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, let's see, are we sixty or seventy minutes

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>into Because every time Alan Alda apparently was operating and

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he was looking down at the at the body, it

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>was actually just a piece of felt and his script

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so he could read the lines as he was operating.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>There's my match for the day. I get it absolutely,

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're like the lead of the show. Like

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Ben always had everybody's lines, but there was times where

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he it's like he had six pages of dialogue to

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>himself and it was I can get writing that down somewhere,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>or hey, my script is you know. Rusty would always

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>take do the notes, do everything in the script, and

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>then sit on it. Don't remember that he'd stand up

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>in there and under the couch, under the chair or whatever,

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just because it was right there if he needed it.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So everybody's got their own little little We were constantly

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>hiding things under that couch. I think I don't remember

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>who it was. It might have been the Friends reunion.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But then like when they pulled they pulled an old

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>couch out to do like some kind of reunion and

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they were still script pages. That's amazing. Everyone does it,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, And you ended up becoming very close with

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Jody Sweeten, and you guys are still very close. We are, um,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>who like what other friend circles, like celebrity friend circles?

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Did you run in in the nineties. Who were your

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>closest friends. Oh my gosh, okay, so, um, I was

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>really close with Angela Watson when we were on the show.

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>The two of us were like thick as thieves. We

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>were like sisterly. Um, you know, I think from like oh,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was close with Jenna because we lived

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in the same building and her family would come any

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>she had a younger sister. Um. I mean obviously I

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>would see you guys quite a lot. Writer we were,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>we were we've been acting class. Yeah. Yeah, we did

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Young Actor Space and Danielle you were there too too

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. Yeah that Bruce Bruce and then

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Diane No, that was a different thing. It was Diane. Yeah,

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Dane was the one who ran Young Actor Spoke. She

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>was amazing and um yeah that was like the best

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>acting class in Los Angeles for kids. It was so good, Yeah,

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>so good. And that really became like my I mean

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that that was a social soul. Yeah. So Kelly Martin

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>was in that class, Tom David, Tom Price, Um, Luke Edwards, um,

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>who else? Um? And then just like a bunch of

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like young like especially as we became young adults, like

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who just graduated college and come

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:58.800
<v Speaker 1>out and chadge Chad Gabriel like, yeah, so that was

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of like my crew. Did you date any child actors? Well,

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't even call it dating. I mean, obviously when

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>we're like fourteen, is it really dating? But you know

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the teenage dating. Yeah. I did go on a couple

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of dates with Andrew Keagan. Oh yes, I think everybody.

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody did. The only one ask him why

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't interested? I know. And then, um, I think

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>he was really the only one. I had definitely had

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>a crush on some of the home improvement boys and

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>why would like see them when I would like always

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like flirt, but nothing really matriculated from that. Um. And

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>then I had a couple of like boyfriends in UM Atlanta.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>But then and season I want to say five or

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>five maybe of the show we UM, we had a

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 1>new character come on. This is right before Jason. I think,

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>um he was flashed and he came on and he

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>was this like crazy guy who was like one of

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Frank's I guess like um distance And anyway, he was

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>played by a guy named Jeff Juday and Jeff Jeff

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jason were really good friends. Yeah. Yeah, so Jeff

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>came on the show. Um, I thought he was super cute.

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was like seventeen at the time and

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, early twenties. And then we went on

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a we did a Disney trip. I'm sure you guys

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>did too. Didjeverfilm in Disney Disney World? Yes, so we're

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>filming at Disney World. Stacy Keenan was actually in the

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>episode where we went to Disney World. Not let's not

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>even get into that, please please people. I was not invited,

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was not there, But I hadn't the biggest crush on

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Stacy keene in my entire life, growing up to the

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>point where I said to to our producers, I would

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>love to get Stacy Keene on the show. They do,

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and then they fly everybody to Disney World and they're

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're staying home like, hey, thanks, awful. It was

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>awful because the worst Okay, so go on, don't don't

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>let will bring us down. So so, um so we

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>go to Disney World and it's just you know, you're

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>having sorry, well you're having the time like a host

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and rides and like there's no school. You're like, do

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it later. I gotta ride, you know, Tower Terror sounds awesome,

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, and Jeff and I would like start going

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>on rides, and then like one night me him, um

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Angela Watson, like her boyfriend at the time, we all

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 1>go to the Downtown Disney for like dancing and we're

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like at mannequins were like the rotating dance and he

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and I like kiss, like oh my god, you know,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and I had just like the biggest crush on him.

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>So then we have to leave Disney World and that

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was our last episode and I have to go back

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta and he's going to l A and I'm

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>like crying. I'm crying in the transport van and I've

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.439
<v Speaker 1>had the time when my life is playing from Dirty

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Dancing and I'm like, I'm never going to and I

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>am heartbroken. We end up dating for four years when

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>first boyfriend like my first boyfriend, and he had been

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, for all sorts of reasons. They had to

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>bring Bronzon Pin Show on and blah blah blah. He

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 1>is his character didn't continue and I did and uh,

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was like really into theater. He took me

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Amondson and the Taper and I mean, he

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was just he you know, he was really nice, Like

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he was just a nice guy. And every thing I

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 1>remember the most about him. And he was not a

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>big drinker, so I don't want to in any way,

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>shape or form, but any restaurant you go to up

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to and including Burger King a McDonald's, he'd tried to

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>order a beer. What and so it would be like

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you'd be as liked he bed like a diner and

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>he'd be like, yeah, can I Can I get a beer?

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And they'd be like, no, no, we don't have that here.

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, no, But it was just everywhere we

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>went like can I get a whopper? And if you

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>have a beer, like, Nope, that's not they don't they

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:45.919
<v Speaker 1>don't have that here. But I just remember him being

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like the nicest person in the world. He was just

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a sweet guy. He was a really sweet guy. He

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 1>actually was just out here. He has two children and

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>so we still keep in touch and that's cool. Out here.

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>We all went to dinner. Yeah, we don't think he

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.399
<v Speaker 1>ordered a beery sluten free now, so oh that's good.

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's good. We recently had Marla sockle Off

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>on and we talked a little bit about it, how UM,

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us went through just some very serious

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>actor burnout. And so considering you also did seven seasons

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of Step by Step the way we did seven seasons

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of boy Me's World, did you ever experience like just

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>total burnout, like I don't want to do this anymore,

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>get me away from here, get me back to Atlanta,

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>or did you just did you never experience that? You know,

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like on the show necessarily I ever

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>experienced that. I I had such a specific relationship with

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>um acting because it was the thing for me that

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.839
<v Speaker 1>was like my fun. It was my outlet, and my

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>parents were always like, well that's great, but you you

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we always we also expect you to get really good grades,

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and like that comes first. So for me, it was

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>more like I experienced burnout with I think the the schedule,

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the workload of school coupled with the stuff that I

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to do, and that was at times, especially

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like preparing for college and doing college applications. I just

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>had a lot on my plate and I feel like

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>there were times at which I felt, yeah, like I

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it at all. Um, I didn't really experience

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>actor burnout necessarily until I was a little older. And

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just like the constant auditioning. I mean, honestly, it's

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why I started directing, because I

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I don't think I can keep doing

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>this the rest of my life. I don't. I've been

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>doing this since I was a child, and I just

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I love to work, but the constant auditioning, I need

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a break. It doesn't I don't enjoy that part of

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it personally. How did you get into directing? Um? So gosh.

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 1>About ten years ago, I, you know, I had started

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 1>to experience that very thing that I was just discussing,

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, you know, I gotta start doing my

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>own stuff. That's where I think I'm happiest. So I

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>started writing. I took a couple of classes, I started,

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I had some ideas. I made a I

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>made a really silly mockumentary digital series called Love and

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Laken um and my friend at the time had a

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>documentary film company, so we had all this equipment and

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>he's like, let's just do something silly, and I was like, okay.

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>So I wrote this stupid series and I was doing

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a film called um you again, so all these you

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>know people were I was around all these people. So

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like Kristen Bell did an episode, and Kristin Chenow with

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.760
<v Speaker 1>in an episode. I Curtis to do an episode Bornheimer. Anyway,

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it's basically about this girl named Christine Laken who used

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a child actor and thinks everybody knows here.

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like a comeback office. And we had such a

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>good time filming. It was just silly. I put in

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of film festivals. We want some stuff. It

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 1>got bought by Hulu. Um. So that was really like

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the first time that I did something that was mine

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I had more fun doing that

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and not making any money from it. It wasn't about

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 1>that than anything else. And so that kind of got

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>the wheels turning. Um. And then at the same time,

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I I have this other life as a choreographer. I know,

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I've so I know it's tell us a little bit

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>about that because I didn't even know that was going on.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And then I saw you posting about it on Instagram

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, holy how she has like a

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>full blown other side hustle. I do so I I

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said when I moved to Atlanta.

0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I had been in dance, so I was like a

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.680
<v Speaker 1>competition dancer before step by step happened. And then all

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of went away, and I sort of

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>started to go back to classes and I was trained,

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>but I was never going to be like, so you

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>think you can dance, like I wasn't that good. But

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I do have a background of dance. So when I

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>went in my twenties, when the show ended and I

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>was going back to theater and I was in acting

0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>class and I found a theater company and I found

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a home, and really, for me, it was about like

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 1>remembering why I love to do this, and I had

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep that going so that I didn't spiral out

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>of like trying to get the next job and like

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to be who I once was, and like all

0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>of that I think can lead you down to really,

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for me, anyway, a very strange rabbit hole. So I

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>got into the theater company, and a lot of times

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in the or in l A, people are like, well,

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>we need someone to choreograph this number is can anyone

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>dance captain? That was kind of me, so I started

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>doing it just for my theater company. Then my name

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>got passed around. I did it for a few more

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you know productions, and I got nominated a couple of times.

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And then I went to do a movie called Reach

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>for Madness and in UM, Canada, and I was there

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>just like hanging out waiting for my scenes, and the

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>choreographer said, would you come skeleton crew for me? And

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I said sure. So I helped her build some dances

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and then she hired me to be an assistant on

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a film. And from that, literally a d s just

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>started to My name would get passed around and they

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 1>would just start to call me. And the thing that

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I realized I was really good at was communicating um,

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the language of dance to people who are non dancers.

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was really good at Yeah, not only meeting

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>with an actor who looked at me with fear in

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 1>their eyes and said, I'm not a dancer. Well I

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, And I'm like, yeah, no, we're just

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of like play. It's like right, Yeah, I would

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>disarm them completely, yeah, and then I would see very

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.359
<v Speaker 1>quickly what they were good at and what they like.

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Some people you think have rhythm don't um. So I

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>would really break it down, yeah, and I would like

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>make it very simple find out what they were good at,

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>keep it clean, hire people around them to make them

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.879
<v Speaker 1>look this way and that way. You know, I would

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like talk to the director of the producer,

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we would film it, I would change it

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>concerning what they would want whatever. So for ten years

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe more now, I've been doing that on all kinds

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of shows I've worked on, UM, West World, I worked

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 1>on True Blood and then I uh, and then I

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>got season one. UM. I started doing it for the Goldbergs,

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and around season five, I think I was sitting there

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and waiting and I'm watching all these directors that you're

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>waiting forever, as you know, for your scene, you've already

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>rehearsed with the cast, and so you're waiting and waiting.

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought to myself, I'm an idiot. That's

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the job I should be doing. I'm watching all these

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>directors and I'm like, why have I not been doing that?

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>So that really started me on this new trajectory of

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out my way in. And it's as

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, as he was probably no writer, it's it's

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 1>not linear. You know. I didn't go to film school, UM,

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but I had all this information. I knew the job,

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>so I just had to give myself more practice so

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that people and more to show for myself that so

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that people would take a chance on me. So I

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>started directing everything I could get my hands on, funnier die,

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:32.160
<v Speaker 1>shorts of friends, short of pilot, presentation, a music video,

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.720
<v Speaker 1>like anything I could do, I did, and I gotten

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of women's advocacy groups, and I was still choreographing,

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>And I really think it was the combination of me

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>being a choreographer and then having and having been in

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the business a long time. It took many years, but

0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of of advocating, and then I was I was trying

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to get on the Goldbergs because that was sort of

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>like what I thought my easiest way. And I was shadowing.

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I was on your show shadowing. I was shadowing and

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>show away and I I hope someone's gonna give me a job.

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was choreographing a number on the Goldbergs. I

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.839
<v Speaker 1>was pregnant at the time and newly pregnant with my

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>son and um. I remember talking to Wendy McClendon. We

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>were doing some kind of flashdance thing, and you know,

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about female directors and how they would just

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like to have more of them. Um, but there were

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>so few and they were always working, and I was like,

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and we just had a really nice chat about it.

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of the actors at that

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>point on that show trusted me with me and it

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:34.360
<v Speaker 1>took a long time, but they I think a lot

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of people put in a good word. And you know

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>how these things happen, it's kids, mean and timing, and

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>so I literally had I ended up sending Adam Goldberg

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of my stuff, but I was like, probably

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not gonna here, Like you know, I was really kind

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of at the end of my rope of like I

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I'm going to get into this, and um,

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I had literally just had my son. This is four

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:57.439
<v Speaker 1>years ago. I just had my son, and the day

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>after I gave birth, my agent called it said, I

0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>know this isn't very timing, but they'd like to give

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you an episode of The Goldberg's and it shoots in

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 1>seven weeks. And I was like, awesome, sign me up.

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>And I looked at my husband. I was like, I

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, what do you think. He's like, Well, how

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>first of all, how you feel you can you can

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>reserve your right to say no, you know, even a

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks if you don't feel well. I was.

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I had a really easy berth by second and I

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, he's like, but I think if you should

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>do it, He's like, I will make sure this child lives.

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You should do this, And so I was like pumping

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and going to work and yeah, so that was my

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>first one. And then luckily, very thankfully, they liked what

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I did and they've had me back a bunch and

0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>done some other stuff too, and so good for you.

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>She's hysterical that Wendy. Wendy is the best. Oh man.

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I was such a fan of her, especially on Renee

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and then Sean uh Is Sean Jane Brownie is to

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>me is a living cartoon character. And I say that

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in the mo phenomenal possible way you can imagine. He's

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the sweetest little lamb. He's not changed at all. He's

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>talked to him last week. He's he's incredible, such a

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>such a fun guy. But it's like he's so happy

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>to be there, you know, he's just still. Yeah. I

0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have an amazing picture I will give to the Pond

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Meats World Show Instagram of Christine and I at one

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of those bowling events that we went to, and Andrew

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Keegan was there, and Ksey Keegan was there, and I

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>am wearing a Batman Returns T shirt. Of course you are,

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of course sounds and it's a great picture of Christine

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and I and um. I have so so many of

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>my little T G I F nineties memories involve you,

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Christine and and even though we can't remember exactly how

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>we met, you are just an indelible part of my

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.319
<v Speaker 1>my teenage hood. And well say for all of you,

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I have like very specific when with whether it's like

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you sleeping over at our apartment, I think you can

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>over for sleepover once or like will like I think

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I helped you move, or I helped you did help

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 1>someone you helped me move. It was it was Marsden

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 1>and somebody and we and you all just showed up

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to help me move from one apartment to another in

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the same building. It was like having to move one

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>floor up. Yea, like filming you know, Buck Naked Arson,

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that was like one of the best experiences ever had

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 1>asn't actor. It really sticks out there is like one

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of my was that at redwood Shire. Yeah, we shot

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a movie right after Boy Mee's World ended. The summer

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>after we shot a movie at my parents property. It

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 1>was one of the first high def digital films ever.

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Like we got that, we got the cameras that George

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Lucas said like not taken for Phantom Menace. We got

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the other cameras, but they were like it was like

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the new latest technology. We shot a feature in twelve days,

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>which back then was just unheard of to make something

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that quick. Now it's kind of standard. But back then

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>we shot all my parents property. But we just had

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 1>so much fun. We're just like camping out and like

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 1>staying up until sunrise because we're shooting nights. So much fun.

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>And then you brought me on Hollywood Arlings, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just fun, which is just a ton of fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a really fun job, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like getting to do something like that with

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<v Speaker 1>people you love and bringing all you know friends in

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<v Speaker 1>and like just the improv nature of that show. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why more things aren't like that. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just because more people won't allow it, because because

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<v Speaker 1>the networks and stuff don't allow it. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>answer to that. Unfortunately, and I mean even as a

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsal process, even as a director, I think about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having people talk about their characters or talk in character

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about who they are. I mean, it's such a valuable

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<v Speaker 1>tool to have and I wish that there was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more rehearsal time to do stuff like that, or even

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just improv scenes between characters, because I think it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just really the best. Christine, tell everyone where

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>we can find you and where we can see you,

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and tell us about your podcast with Stacy. Yes, um,

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>you can find me on Instagram at yolacon Yo Lincoln

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Um and our podcast he's called We have an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Keenan and Laken Give you Deja Vu. I

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>love it, And that will be coming out shortly. We

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<v Speaker 1>have like a few more episodes to film in season one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's a lawyer, you guys, she could get

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly a criminal case and she's like, I'm sorry, I

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 1>got to put these people away and I'm like real

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>work to do. Yeah, so so very soon probably sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>fall incredible. Well, thank you so much for being here

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Always fun to catch up with you. And um,

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you're you're a mom inspiration. We didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the fact that you have two beautiful children

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>in a fantastic husband, but you're always like such an

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>inspiration for me, both both work wise and personally. Um,

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I just said, I look at you in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being with us. So good to see

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Bye bye. I don't like her the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>She is just terrible, isn't she. Yeah, she's just you

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<v Speaker 1>know what. One of the things I just love about

0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>her so much is never once do I have a

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<v Speaker 1>single memory of her where she's ever been anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than just totally her. She is one of the most authentic,

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 1>genuine people. There's no airs about her. She's just who like.

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Who you see is who you get. She's always smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>always smiling, and helpful. When I was pregnant with Adler

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew absolutely nothing about what was about to

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me, I knew, I knew, you know, your

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>first time mom, you don't know anything. She was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only people to pull me aside and say, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>here's gonna be some things you're gonna need to do,

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and here's gonna be how you're gonna feel, and here's

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what's what's going to happen? And and I don't want

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you to feel blindsided by it. And she just gave

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>me and she put me in touch with people who

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:57.439
<v Speaker 1>were able to like I mean, she was phenomenal and

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, I mean I've talked to her about directing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like I I and I remember because she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying she she was shadowing on Girl Meets World. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew when she was trying to get into directing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember, you know, watching her do it and

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<v Speaker 1>now to see the amazing career she's had, um and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll continue to have, is is just wonderful. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also has to be said, a wonderful actor. I never

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<v Speaker 1>watched that, I said. I realized as we were going

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<v Speaker 1>into this was like I don't think I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>single episode, which is you know, maybe not that crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know what that show. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>have like an image of like it was a family show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I knew, But it was really working

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<v Speaker 1>with her an acting class and then working with her

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<v Speaker 1>on Buck Naked Arson. I just she is such a

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<v Speaker 1>good actor. And I always always thought like just like

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<v Speaker 1>always brought professional attitude, like you said, super positive but genuine,

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<v Speaker 1>but then also just talented, like she could make a

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<v Speaker 1>scene come alive. Such a good actor. She's incredible. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad that she joined us for that. And

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<v Speaker 1>our next episode will be that we are are recapping

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<v Speaker 1>season one, episode fourteen, the b Team of Life. It

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