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Speaker 1: the tapes? Did they do like all the whole thing,

425
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: or was like, hey, security, I like security. He's obsessed

426
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: with security. He wants to know about security. I want

427
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: to know what security situation is. Did they check the tapes?

428
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there were even tapes back though the

429
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: dead bolt had been tampered with, But they thought, because

430
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, they were all those gates, like good security

431
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: system there, good security system. The cops thought maybe it

432
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: was an inside job. I was gonna say, it's probably

433
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: knew it was your mom try and scare you out

434
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. Someone had knocked on the door a

435
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: couple of nights before and either trying saying they were

436
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: selling something or looking for an apartment, and oh they

437
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: had they were totally casing when we were gonna But

438
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: here's what happened. So my mom is obviously like really distraught.

439
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: It was scary. I was like, I've been in Los

440
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: Angeles for a month and a half and like we

441
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: got robbed. Like this does not bode well. And what

442
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: I will say about like not only those producers like

443
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: Miller Boy, yet that show they rallied around us. They

444
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 1: got out of that least, they literally put us up

445
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: in a hotel and then they took my mom and

446
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: like with somebody, and they showed her like two or

447
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: three apartments and like they had people from the production

448
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: company guys. They came over and got all our stuff out.

449
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And then I sound environment. It was

450
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: just really lovely. And then like I remember walking, you know,

451
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: into rehearsal like the next day, and Patrick Duffy had

452
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: a m like a Best Buy bag. It was a

453
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: different kind of store, but he had bought me a

454
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: new game Boy. I was just like really yeah. So

455
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: then we moved to Park Lebria, which is like the

456
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: other it's like the yuppy like townhouses. Right, would they

457
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: have better Do they have better security? I was going

458
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: to ask, they had really good security. We lived in

459
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: the big towers and they were like the old from

460
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: like nineteen I don't know when those are built nineties

461
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: or something. I had outside my windows like a view

462
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: of the Angeline poster. Yeah the best. I love that. Yes,

463
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: so crazy, And you know it was fine. It was

464
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: just a lot of older people lived there, so we

465
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: basically lived with like it was like and I felt

466
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: like we lived in like a geriatric And so what

467
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: year was Yeah? Were you guys? Wait? Wait? Were years?

468
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: The first season? Ninety one? Okay, I thought I started.

469
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: And so it sounds like just from the little bit

470
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: you've told us, it sounds like the environment on set

471
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: was really great. But tell us more about what it

472
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: was like on that set. What was the environment like,

473
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite memory? Who were you closest

474
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: to and who did you hate? Who was the worst?

475
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: Give us some juicy juicy detail. Um, yeah, we were

476
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: all we were close and it was it was really idyllic,

477
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: I have to say, like we had a very close

478
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: knit family. Um, a lot of those people had worked

479
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: for Miller way up before. Um. We had Anger. She

480
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: was like our like craft services lady. She was Swedish,

481
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: so lovely and she would be like, you know, she

482
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: was just like a mama, like she was making things

483
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: for anyone and everyone, and you know, six kids on

484
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: a show. It was like there was a lot going on. Um,

485
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: and we had three different studio teachers. I shared a

486
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: school room with Brandon call He never wanted to do

487
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: any work. Um. I was in this like school in Atlanta,

488
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: and they were still faxing all my information and FedExing everything.

489
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: We would always go back to Atlanta, so once every

490
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: three or four weeks we'd have a hiatus. My parents

491
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: are like. My parents were like, here's the deal. We're

492
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: not going to disrupt our life. The most important thing

493
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: is her education. And she's in this private school in Atlanta,

494
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: and we're not just move out here, like basically on

495
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: your whim, so on your dime, you'll send us back

496
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: and forth. And they were like okay. So I back

497
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: home like every fourth week and had a normal life.

498
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: And then I lived, you know in Atlanta from like

499
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: like February through July. UM. So, but anyway, this set

500
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: like set life was really fun. I mean I don't

501
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: have brothers and sisters, so it was definitely it was

502
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: like a brand new world to be around that many

503
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: kids all the time. So like Stacy and Angela had

504
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: a teacher, the two little boys had a teacher, Josh

505
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: and Chris. And then I was with Brandon, and he

506
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: was like always like reading like car magazines and like

507
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: whatever he would like read them behind is like math book.

508
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean all right, So I have to ask, since

509
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: you met Brandon, since you you've talked about Brandon, Um

510
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: from one sitcom older brother to another sitcom older brother. Um,

511
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: Jason Marsin, I think was you know who's still my

512
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Dusty was on the show and I think he was

513
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: there when Brandon got shot. Yes, can you talk about that? Yeah,

514
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: Brandon call got shot like a drive by shooting in

515
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: a car. We had some weird moments that happened. So

516
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I believe this was like the second to last year. Um. Yeah,

517
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Jason Nick come on the show playing Rich Halkey, such

518
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: a great energy. Um. Just loved Jason was great. Um

519
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: and uh, and Brandon was one night, you know, Brandon

520
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: always had fancy cars, that was his thing. And one

521
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: night he was driving home he got in some kind

522
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: of altercation with someone on the road, some kind of

523
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: road rage altercation, and they ended up kind of like

524
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: he and this other person were like kind of racing

525
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: on the road and and Brandon thought he got away

526
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: from this guy and turned into a neighborhood and ended

527
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: up being a dead end and when he turned around

528
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: in the col deside of the person was waiting for him,

529
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: and so he just like drove really fast as he

530
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: past as he could pass him, and he kind of

531
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: put his head on like this, and the guy shot

532
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: him like six times and heard there Yeah, I went

533
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: like went through one arm and out the other side

534
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: and hit the other arm and yeah, yeah, And he

535
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: was really lucky that he survived that. He drove to

536
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: a police station. How do you know where a police

537
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: this is pre GPS, you guys, like, oh my gosh,

538
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: six times yeah yeah, and basically just like got out

539
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 1: of the car and like like passed out on the steps.

540
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: It was wild. Ye. So you know, I will say,

541
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: like I don't know for sure, but I really feel

542
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: like that in some ways. I mean, that will change

543
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: you as a person. Um, a traumatic event like that,

544
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: and I feel like he, um, he just really had

545
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: no interest in being in the spotlight anymore. Can't blame him,

546
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean yikes. Yeah, um so yeah,

547
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: that was kind of crazy. And when was that? That

548
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: was probably nine the six Okay, so he's been you

549
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: guys have been doing the show for five or six

550
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: years at that end, Yeah, totally. And he was at school,

551
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was like I think I was probably

552
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: almost like a senior in high school or something in

553
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: the school room together anything. Um, which is like really

554
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: when we were all like in school together, we were

555
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: all like hanging out a lot and going and playing

556
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: jokes and pranks. And then when the older girls, you know,

557
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: we're out, Brandon was out, and it was just like

558
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: me and the two littles, you know. And I was

559
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: like deep in high school and so I would have

560
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: like a million tutors and I was like underwater all

561
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: the time, writing to some freaking paper or whatever. And

562
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: were you still by like the time you were in

563
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: fifth sixth season, were you still going home every fourth

564
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: week to Atlanta? Wow? You kept that pace up through

565
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: all seven seasons. Yes, And it started we like ended

566
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: up just keeping an apartment in Los Angeles because it

567
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: just became you know, so crazy. Um. And but yeah,

568
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I would go back and forth all the time, and

569
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was I think like, at the end

570
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: of the day, when I think about it now, I

571
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: think it was really smart on my parents part, because

572
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I really as much as I

573
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: missed of like a normal life for normal high school. UM.

574
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: I still have very vivid memories of that, and my

575
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: time there, especially like in the spring, was so concentrated,

576
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: UM that it really felt like I kind of had

577
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. Try I would say to

578
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: my mom, I can't go back to Atlanta. I don't

579
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: have any friends, and then I'd go back, and then

580
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I would love it there, and I'd be like, I

581
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go back. I don't have any friends.

582
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: But I know because I mean, I had a very

583
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: similar experience. I wasn't going back to Atlanta. I was

584
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: just going back to Calabasas High School. But I also

585
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: every week went back to my regular high school, so

586
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: I got to go to every football game, every school dance.

587
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: I I have very vivid memories of being in high

588
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: school UM. And also was still able to work, so

589
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: I also feel like I got the best of both worlds.

590
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: It's very hard and while you're in it, because there

591
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: there is no any sort of like, well, I'm behind

592
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: a week now, but that's okay, I'll make it up,

593
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: but you know a month from now, like you really

594
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: have to be on exactly with where you're school is.

595
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: But it does make it does make you feel like

596
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: you get to really like live a normal life totally.

597
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Did you feel like when you went back to school

598
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: and maybe like real school, did you ever feel how

599
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: what was the vibe like, do people care? Where they like?

600
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: Who cares? No? I mean, it was a lot of

601
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: the same kids I had gone to junior high school

602
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: with in junior high junior high they cared a little

603
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: bit more because I was also brand new to Calabasas.

604
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: I had come from Orange County, so I didn't know anybody,

605
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: even from elementary school. And it was kind of like

606
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I got there and was already on the show or

607
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: had just started the show, and so they didn't quite

608
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: understand it. They were like, what are you doing? Where

609
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: do you Why do you get to leave for three

610
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: weeks and then just appear. But by the time I

611
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: got to high school, we were in three, season three

612
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: or season four, and nobody cared anymore. So it was

613
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: just like Danielle's back and and you know, it was

614
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: no big deal. But yeah, it's it's interesting. I also

615
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: feel like in l A it's kind of a different

616
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: so yet you know, or they're like they care, but

617
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: they really like they pretend like they don't care. Atlanta. Yeah,

618
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: there's a whole another story, a whole other follow us.

619
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine this. I started seventh grade at a

620
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: brand new school, and I'm also on this TV show

621
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: that like is the prime audience. Like everyone there's the

622
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: target audience. And so I remember going to my locker

623
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: the first day because I wasn't there for the first

624
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: three weeks of school or whatever it was. So this

625
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: the build up had been happening, this girl and she's

626
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: not here, but she's new when she's on a TV show,

627
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: and what this is crazy? And I remember like putting

628
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: something in my locker and like turning around and there

629
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: was like a sea of people just surrounding me getting

630
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: ready to like ask me questions. Like it was crazy.

631
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: It definitely wore off and by the end, you know,

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: by the middle of the first year, nobody cared anymore.

633
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: But but did it make you feel popular or did

634
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: you feel like people thought you were like an outcast? No?

635
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a complete liability. It's not

636
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: cool to be famous, let me tell you this, because, um,

637
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: especially in high school or in middle school, because you

638
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: you always think that other people think that you think

639
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: you're cool, right, you know, and so you're constantly like

640
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: downplaying all of it because you just want to blend in.

641
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm cool. I do not think I'm

642
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: better than anybody, you know, and like I'll talk about

643
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: it if you're interested. But then the more you talk

644
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: more people like actually doesn't talk about herself and you

645
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: know what to answer your questions. So, like I mean,

646
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Stacy Keenan and I talked about it all the time.

647
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, it was a total liability.

648
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: I never wanted to talk about the show like with

649
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: like anyone in high school. Like I just wanted, you know,

650
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted like everyone to like forget about that.

651
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: I did that for a living. And yeah, well she

652
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: also came off of my two dads too, so she

653
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: was like one of those those real kid actors or

654
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 1: that she was on TV most of her life by

655
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: that point, I have very similar right. Yeah, yeah, she

656
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: completely walked on and she's like she's a lawyer. She's

657
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: like she's a criminal prosecutor. Prosecutor, Yeah, can you imagine that,

658
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Like I was just put in jail by the girl

659
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: from Step by Step, Like that would be that's what

660
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: would be weird to be like I'm almost like, can

661
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: you sign my my of Um? So, so yeah, you

662
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: and I have very similar stories with that because it's

663
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: like we were both from Like I grew up in

664
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: Connecticut and my parents weren't in the industry, and it

665
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: was kind of then like you'd come back to the

666
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: people you knew, and anytime you opened your mouth thinking

667
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: you were just having a conversation, it was then like,

668
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: oh you're now you're fully yourself, Like you asked me

669
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: the question like what do you know? Yeah, but they

670
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't have to churn butter in Atlanta. You know again,

671
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: I am no longer taking the wrath for that hearing

672
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: that Ryder had to literally stoke the fires at his

673
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: his high school. So yes, can I ask you a question,

674
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: just very briefly going back, Um, because we've talked about

675
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: Danielle Ryder and I've talked about this and so many

676
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: young actors, I would say of them start in commercials.

677
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first national commercial that you did? Oh? Yeah,

678
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I did a commercial for six Flags white Water It

679
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: was the water park version at six Flags in Atlanta,

680
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: and we shot the commercial in like March. Oh my gosh, freezing,

681
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: freezing to get it done in time for the season,

682
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: so it wasn't open yet, right, So I'm in, like,

683
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, the lazy River. And then like one point

684
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: they had us like going in the big waves and

685
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: we're like the waves and they're like the part of

686
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the commercial they used as mean lazy river because you know,

687
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like, like, you're having fun, kiding, I know

688
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: your shivering, just keep smiling. Almost so excited because they

689
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: gave me makeup, you know, because my list people blew.

690
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: I could not, so I mean I did six flags

691
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: and then I mean I did all kinds of weird ones.

692
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: Sweetie Pups that was another one. What is this sweet pop?

693
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: What is sweetie pup? They were like these little dogs.

694
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: They were like my little ponies, but they were puppies

695
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: and you can like do their hair and stuff like that.

696
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: I did manage commercials. I hated mayonnaise. That was a

697
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: real nightmare. That one A lot of banks. You know,

698
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: fun though, they were really fun. I enjoyed them because

699
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: the food was amazing and the catering was always listen

700
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: craft service on national commercials and on shows. It is

701
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: really it comes up so often on this podcast, and

702
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: I realized how much we sound completely food obsessed because

703
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: I know the catering was delicious. But Danielle, we've talked

704
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: about this, this is normal life. Because again, if my

705
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: wife and I what we talked about is what we're

706
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna have for lunch, Ye, that's food is hugely But

707
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: also when you're on a set, when you're not working,

708
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: when you're not actively working, all you're doing is sitting around,

709
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Like people don't realize how much sitting around. And granted,

710
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: when we were kids we were shuffled into school, but

711
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: when if we didn't have those three hours of four

712
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: hours of school, the only other place to gathers around

713
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: the food, Like it's around craft service. That's where you

714
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: just I mean your dressing room alone. That's where Tony

715
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Quinn came on the show. We started picking up hobby,

716
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: so every day he and I would go to golf,

717
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: We play cards, we go bowling. It was like because

718
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: they would say, you know you'd by the time the

719
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: show starts to run, and Christine, you know this too.

720
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's like your first second season. It's all

721
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: about the work. I mean, it's always all about the work,

722
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: but it's all about the schedule, and then by six

723
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: or seven season we were down to like four days

724
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: a week. We would have to come in at like noon,

725
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: we would be done by four. I mean it was

726
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: one of those things. So there's times where would be

727
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: like we have three hours off, let's go play golf.

728
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just there's that's what you do

729
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: because you're moving along. I heard a story recently. Correct

730
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: me if this is wrong, but recently I was on

731
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: a set and I learned of a very famous actress

732
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: who wrote her lines in some kind of invisible not

733
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: invisible to her, but like in some kind of removable

734
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: pen in any like doorways, door frames, or if she

735
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: was at a desk on a post it note. She

736
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: had her lines written everywhere, so no matter where her

737
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: blocking was, she would just look and she could read

738
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: what her line was. I was like, that sounds crazy,

739
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: who would do that? And then I read somewhere that

740
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: you did the same thing. Is that true? No, So

741
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: the story is that's the thing that Patrick Dusty would do.

742
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: He would sometimes write things like around like you know

743
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you can tell like watching the show now, because like

744
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: Stacy and I have been rewatching it. Um Stacy never

745
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: watched the show. She's never right, Okay, So she's watching

746
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: it for the first time and we're talking about it,

747
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: and I'm finding it really fascinating. Are you guys doing

748
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: a podcast? We are? Okay, Okay, we'll talk about that

749
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: in a second. Yes, But but he would he would

750
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: constantly do things like that. He also directed a lot

751
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: of the episodes, so you could quietly see him like

752
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of nudging you to your mark or like taking

753
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: you out of her constantly. And Suzanne she could never

754
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: do that because she couldn't see the line like she had.

755
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: She had reading glasses, so she would be a little leasy.

756
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: But you can constantly see her checking her mark. She's

757
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: always break a mark. So no, I I never did that,

758
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: but we did joke about it on Hollywood Darlings that

759
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: it was like something that I would do, and it

760
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: was really just to take off of what Patrick Deffe

761
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: used to always do. Danielle, can you check the time?

762
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Is it time for to talk about mash because oh

763
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: my gosh, let's see, are we sixty or seventy minutes

764
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: into Because every time Alan Alda apparently was operating and

765
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: he was looking down at the at the body, it

766
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: was actually just a piece of felt and his script

767
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: so he could read the lines as he was operating.

768
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: There's my match for the day. I get it absolutely,

769
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: especially when you're like the lead of the show. Like

770
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Ben always had everybody's lines, but there was times where

771
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: he it's like he had six pages of dialogue to

772
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: himself and it was I can get writing that down somewhere,

773
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: or hey, my script is you know. Rusty would always

774
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: take do the notes, do everything in the script, and

775
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: then sit on it. Don't remember that he'd stand up

776
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: in there and under the couch, under the chair or whatever,

777
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: just because it was right there if he needed it.

778
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: So everybody's got their own little little We were constantly

779
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: hiding things under that couch. I think I don't remember

780
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: who it was. It might have been the Friends reunion.

781
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: But then like when they pulled they pulled an old

782
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: couch out to do like some kind of reunion and

783
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: they were still script pages. That's amazing. Everyone does it,

784
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, And you ended up becoming very close with

785
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Jody Sweeten, and you guys are still very close. We are, um,

786
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: who like what other friend circles, like celebrity friend circles?

787
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: Did you run in in the nineties. Who were your

788
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: closest friends. Oh my gosh, okay, so, um, I was

789
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: really close with Angela Watson when we were on the show.

790
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: The two of us were like thick as thieves. We

791
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: were like sisterly. Um, you know, I think from like oh,

792
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: I mean I was close with Jenna because we lived

793
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: in the same building and her family would come any

794
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: she had a younger sister. Um. I mean obviously I

795
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: would see you guys quite a lot. Writer we were,

796
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: we were we've been acting class. Yeah. Yeah, we did

797
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Young Actor Space and Danielle you were there too too

798
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Yeah that Bruce Bruce and then

799
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: Diane No, that was a different thing. It was Diane. Yeah,

800
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Dane was the one who ran Young Actor Spoke. She

801
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: was amazing and um yeah that was like the best

802
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: acting class in Los Angeles for kids. It was so good, Yeah,

803
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: so good. And that really became like my I mean

804
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: that that was a social soul. Yeah. So Kelly Martin

805
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: was in that class, Tom David, Tom Price, Um, Luke Edwards, um,

806
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: who else? Um? And then just like a bunch of

807
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: like young like especially as we became young adults, like

808
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who just graduated college and come

809
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: out and chadge Chad Gabriel like, yeah, so that was

810
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: kind of like my crew. Did you date any child actors? Well,

811
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't even call it dating. I mean, obviously when

812
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: we're like fourteen, is it really dating? But you know

813
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: the teenage dating. Yeah. I did go on a couple

814
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: of dates with Andrew Keagan. Oh yes, I think everybody.

815
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: I think everybody did. The only one ask him why

816
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't interested? I know. And then, um, I think

817
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: he was really the only one. I had definitely had

818
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: a crush on some of the home improvement boys and

819
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: why would like see them when I would like always

820
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: like flirt, but nothing really matriculated from that. Um. And

821
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: then I had a couple of like boyfriends in UM Atlanta.

822
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: But then and season I want to say five or

823
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: five maybe of the show we UM, we had a

824
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: new character come on. This is right before Jason. I think,

825
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: um he was flashed and he came on and he

826
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: was this like crazy guy who was like one of

827
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Frank's I guess like um distance And anyway, he was

828
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: played by a guy named Jeff Juday and Jeff Jeff

829
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: and Jason were really good friends. Yeah. Yeah, so Jeff

830
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: came on the show. Um, I thought he was super cute.

831
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean I was like seventeen at the time and

832
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, early twenties. And then we went on

833
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: a we did a Disney trip. I'm sure you guys

834
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: did too. Didjeverfilm in Disney Disney World? Yes, so we're

835
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: filming at Disney World. Stacy Keenan was actually in the

836
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: episode where we went to Disney World. Not let's not

837
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: even get into that, please please people. I was not invited,

838
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: was not there, But I hadn't the biggest crush on

839
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Stacy keene in my entire life, growing up to the

840
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: point where I said to to our producers, I would

841
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: love to get Stacy Keene on the show. They do,

842
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: and then they fly everybody to Disney World and they're

843
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: and you're staying home like, hey, thanks, awful. It was

844
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: awful because the worst Okay, so go on, don't don't

845
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: let will bring us down. So so, um so we

846
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: go to Disney World and it's just you know, you're

847
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: having sorry, well you're having the time like a host

848
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: and rides and like there's no school. You're like, do

849
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: it later. I gotta ride, you know, Tower Terror sounds awesome,

850
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: you know, and Jeff and I would like start going

851
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: on rides, and then like one night me him, um

852
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: Angela Watson, like her boyfriend at the time, we all

853
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: go to the Downtown Disney for like dancing and we're

854
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: like at mannequins were like the rotating dance and he

855
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: and I like kiss, like oh my god, you know,

856
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: and I had just like the biggest crush on him.

857
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: So then we have to leave Disney World and that

858
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: was our last episode and I have to go back

859
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and he's going to l A and I'm

860
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: like crying. I'm crying in the transport van and I've

861
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: had the time when my life is playing from Dirty

862
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: Dancing and I'm like, I'm never going to and I

863
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: am heartbroken. We end up dating for four years when

864
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: first boyfriend like my first boyfriend, and he had been

865
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: you know, for all sorts of reasons. They had to

866
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: bring Bronzon Pin Show on and blah blah blah. He

867
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: is his character didn't continue and I did and uh,

868
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: and he was like really into theater. He took me

869
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: to the Amondson and the Taper and I mean, he

870
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: was just he you know, he was really nice, Like

871
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: he was just a nice guy. And every thing I

872
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: remember the most about him. And he was not a

873
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: big drinker, so I don't want to in any way,

874
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: shape or form, but any restaurant you go to up

875
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: to and including Burger King a McDonald's, he'd tried to

876
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: order a beer. What and so it would be like

877
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: you'd be as liked he bed like a diner and

878
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yeah, can I Can I get a beer?

879
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: And they'd be like, no, no, we don't have that here.

880
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, no, But it was just everywhere we

881
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: went like can I get a whopper? And if you

882
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: have a beer, like, Nope, that's not they don't they

883
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: don't have that here. But I just remember him being

884
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: like the nicest person in the world. He was just

885
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: a sweet guy. He was a really sweet guy. He

886
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: actually was just out here. He has two children and

887
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: so we still keep in touch and that's cool. Out here.

888
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: We all went to dinner. Yeah, we don't think he

889
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: ordered a beery sluten free now, so oh that's good.

890
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. We recently had Marla sockle Off

891
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: on and we talked a little bit about it, how UM,

892
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot of us went through just some very serious

893
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: actor burnout. And so considering you also did seven seasons

894
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: of Step by Step the way we did seven seasons

895
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: of boy Me's World, did you ever experience like just

896
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: total burnout, like I don't want to do this anymore,

897
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: get me away from here, get me back to Atlanta,

898
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: or did you just did you never experience that? You know,

899
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel like on the show necessarily I ever

900
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: experienced that. I I had such a specific relationship with

901
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: um acting because it was the thing for me that

902
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: was like my fun. It was my outlet, and my

903
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: parents were always like, well that's great, but you you

904
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: we always we also expect you to get really good grades,

905
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and like that comes first. So for me, it was

906
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: more like I experienced burnout with I think the the schedule,

907
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the workload of school coupled with the stuff that I

908
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: really wanted to do, and that was at times, especially

909
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: like preparing for college and doing college applications. I just

910
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: had a lot on my plate and I feel like

911
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: there were times at which I felt, yeah, like I

912
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: couldn't do it at all. Um, I didn't really experience

913
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: actor burnout necessarily until I was a little older. And

914
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: it's just like the constant auditioning. I mean, honestly, it's

915
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I started directing, because I

916
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't think I can keep doing

917
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: this the rest of my life. I don't. I've been

918
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: doing this since I was a child, and I just

919
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: I love to work, but the constant auditioning, I need

920
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: a break. It doesn't I don't enjoy that part of

921
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: it personally. How did you get into directing? Um? So gosh.

922
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: About ten years ago, I, you know, I had started

923
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: to experience that very thing that I was just discussing,

924
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, I gotta start doing my

925
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: own stuff. That's where I think I'm happiest. So I

926
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: started writing. I took a couple of classes, I started,

927
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, I had some ideas. I made a I

928
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: made a really silly mockumentary digital series called Love and

929
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: Laken um and my friend at the time had a

930
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: documentary film company, so we had all this equipment and

931
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: he's like, let's just do something silly, and I was like, okay.

932
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: So I wrote this stupid series and I was doing

933
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: a film called um you again, so all these you

934
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: know people were I was around all these people. So

935
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: like Kristen Bell did an episode, and Kristin Chenow with

936
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: in an episode. I Curtis to do an episode Bornheimer. Anyway,

937
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: it's basically about this girl named Christine Laken who used

938
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: to be a child actor and thinks everybody knows here.

939
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: It's like a comeback office. And we had such a

940
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: good time filming. It was just silly. I put in

941
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of film festivals. We want some stuff. It

942
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: got bought by Hulu. Um. So that was really like

943
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: the first time that I did something that was mine

944
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: and I was like, I had more fun doing that

945
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: and not making any money from it. It wasn't about

946
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: that than anything else. And so that kind of got

947
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: the wheels turning. Um. And then at the same time,

948
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: I I have this other life as a choreographer. I know,

949
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: I've so I know it's tell us a little bit

950
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: about that because I didn't even know that was going on.

951
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: And then I saw you posting about it on Instagram

952
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy how she has like a

953
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: full blown other side hustle. I do so I I

954
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, like I said when I moved to Atlanta.

955
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: I had been in dance, so I was like a

956
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: competition dancer before step by step happened. And then all

957
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: of that kind of went away, and I sort of

958
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: started to go back to classes and I was trained,

959
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: but I was never going to be like, so you

960
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: think you can dance, like I wasn't that good. But

961
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: I do have a background of dance. So when I

962
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: went in my twenties, when the show ended and I

963
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: was going back to theater and I was in acting

964
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: class and I found a theater company and I found

965
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: a home, and really, for me, it was about like

966
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: remembering why I love to do this, and I had

967
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: to keep that going so that I didn't spiral out

968
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: of like trying to get the next job and like

969
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: trying to be who I once was, and like all

970
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: of that I think can lead you down to really,

971
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: for me, anyway, a very strange rabbit hole. So I

972
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: got into the theater company, and a lot of times

973
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: in the or in l A, people are like, well,

974
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: we need someone to choreograph this number is can anyone

975
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: dance captain? That was kind of me, so I started

976
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: doing it just for my theater company. Then my name

977
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: got passed around. I did it for a few more

978
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: you know productions, and I got nominated a couple of times.

979
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: And then I went to do a movie called Reach

980
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: for Madness and in UM, Canada, and I was there

981
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: just like hanging out waiting for my scenes, and the

982
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: choreographer said, would you come skeleton crew for me? And

983
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I said sure. So I helped her build some dances

984
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: and then she hired me to be an assistant on

985
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: a film. And from that, literally a d s just

986
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: started to My name would get passed around and they

987
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: would just start to call me. And the thing that

988
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: I realized I was really good at was communicating um,

989
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: the language of dance to people who are non dancers.

990
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: So I was really good at Yeah, not only meeting

991
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: with an actor who looked at me with fear in

992
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: their eyes and said, I'm not a dancer. Well I

993
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: don't you know, And I'm like, yeah, no, we're just

994
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of like play. It's like right, Yeah, I would

995
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: disarm them completely, yeah, and then I would see very

996
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: quickly what they were good at and what they like.

997
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Some people you think have rhythm don't um. So I

998
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: would really break it down, yeah, and I would like

999
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: make it very simple find out what they were good at,

1000
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: keep it clean, hire people around them to make them

1001
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: look this way and that way. You know, I would

1002
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of like talk to the director of the producer,

1003
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, we would film it, I would change it

1004
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: concerning what they would want whatever. So for ten years

1005
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe more now, I've been doing that on all kinds

1006
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: of shows I've worked on, UM, West World, I worked

1007
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: on True Blood and then I uh, and then I

1008
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: got season one. UM. I started doing it for the Goldbergs,

1009
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: and around season five, I think I was sitting there

1010
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: and waiting and I'm watching all these directors that you're

1011
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: waiting forever, as you know, for your scene, you've already

1012
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: rehearsed with the cast, and so you're waiting and waiting.

1013
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: And I just thought to myself, I'm an idiot. That's

1014
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: the job I should be doing. I'm watching all these

1015
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: directors and I'm like, why have I not been doing that?

1016
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: So that really started me on this new trajectory of

1017
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure out my way in. And it's as

1018
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: you know, as he was probably no writer, it's it's

1019
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: not linear. You know. I didn't go to film school, UM,

1020
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: but I had all this information. I knew the job,

1021
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: so I just had to give myself more practice so

1022
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: that people and more to show for myself that so

1023
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: that people would take a chance on me. So I

1024
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: started directing everything I could get my hands on, funnier die,

1025
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: shorts of friends, short of pilot, presentation, a music video,

1026
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: like anything I could do, I did, and I gotten

1027
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: a couple of women's advocacy groups, and I was still choreographing,

1028
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: And I really think it was the combination of me

1029
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: being a choreographer and then having and having been in

1030
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: the business a long time. It took many years, but

1031
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: of of advocating, and then I was I was trying

1032
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: to get on the Goldbergs because that was sort of

1033
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: like what I thought my easiest way. And I was shadowing.

1034
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: I was on your show shadowing. I was shadowing and

1035
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: show away and I I hope someone's gonna give me a job.

1036
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: And I was choreographing a number on the Goldbergs. I

1037
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: was pregnant at the time and newly pregnant with my

1038
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: son and um. I remember talking to Wendy McClendon. We

1039
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: were doing some kind of flashdance thing, and you know,

1040
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about female directors and how they would just

1041
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: like to have more of them. Um, but there were

1042
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: so few and they were always working, and I was like,

1043
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: and we just had a really nice chat about it.

1044
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the actors at that

1045
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: point on that show trusted me with me and it

1046
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: took a long time, but they I think a lot

1047
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: of people put in a good word. And you know

1048
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: how these things happen, it's kids, mean and timing, and

1049
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: so I literally had I ended up sending Adam Goldberg

1050
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of my stuff, but I was like, probably

1051
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: not gonna here, Like you know, I was really kind

1052
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: of at the end of my rope of like I

1053
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm going to get into this, and um,

1054
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: I had literally just had my son. This is four

1055
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: years ago. I just had my son, and the day

1056
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: after I gave birth, my agent called it said, I

1057
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: know this isn't very timing, but they'd like to give

1058
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: you an episode of The Goldberg's and it shoots in

1059
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: seven weeks. And I was like, awesome, sign me up.

1060
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: And I looked at my husband. I was like, I

1061
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think. He's like, Well, how

1062
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: first of all, how you feel you can you can

1063
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: reserve your right to say no, you know, even a

1064
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: couple of weeks if you don't feel well. I was.

1065
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: I had a really easy berth by second and I

1066
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: was like, he's like, but I think if you should

1067
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: do it, He's like, I will make sure this child lives.

1068
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: You should do this, And so I was like pumping

1069
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: and going to work and yeah, so that was my

1070
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: first one. And then luckily, very thankfully, they liked what

1071
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I did and they've had me back a bunch and

1072
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: done some other stuff too, and so good for you.

1073
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: She's hysterical that Wendy. Wendy is the best. Oh man.

1074
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: I was such a fan of her, especially on Renee

1075
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: and then Sean uh Is Sean Jane Brownie is to

1076
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: me is a living cartoon character. And I say that

1077
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: in the mo phenomenal possible way you can imagine. He's

1078
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: the sweetest little lamb. He's not changed at all. He's

1079
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: talked to him last week. He's he's incredible, such a

1080
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: such a fun guy. But it's like he's so happy

1081
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: to be there, you know, he's just still. Yeah. I

1082
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: have an amazing picture I will give to the Pond

1083
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: Meats World Show Instagram of Christine and I at one

1084
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: of those bowling events that we went to, and Andrew

1085
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Keegan was there, and Ksey Keegan was there, and I

1086
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: am wearing a Batman Returns T shirt. Of course you are,

1087
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: of course sounds and it's a great picture of Christine

1088
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: and I and um. I have so so many of

1089
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: my little T G I F nineties memories involve you,

1090
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: Christine and and even though we can't remember exactly how

1091
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: we met, you are just an indelible part of my

1092
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: my teenage hood. And well say for all of you,

1093
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I have like very specific when with whether it's like

1094
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: you sleeping over at our apartment, I think you can

1095
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: over for sleepover once or like will like I think

1096
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: I helped you move, or I helped you did help

1097
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: someone you helped me move. It was it was Marsden

1098
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: and somebody and we and you all just showed up

1099
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: to help me move from one apartment to another in

1100
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: the same building. It was like having to move one

1101
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: floor up. Yea, like filming you know, Buck Naked Arson,

1102
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: that was like one of the best experiences ever had

1103
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: asn't actor. It really sticks out there is like one

1104
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: of my was that at redwood Shire. Yeah, we shot

1105
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: a movie right after Boy Mee's World ended. The summer

1106
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: after we shot a movie at my parents property. It

1107
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: was one of the first high def digital films ever.

1108
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: Like we got that, we got the cameras that George

1109
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: Lucas said like not taken for Phantom Menace. We got

1110
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: the other cameras, but they were like it was like

1111
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: the new latest technology. We shot a feature in twelve days,

1112
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: which back then was just unheard of to make something

1113
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: that quick. Now it's kind of standard. But back then

1114
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: we shot all my parents property. But we just had

1115
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: so much fun. We're just like camping out and like

1116
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: staying up until sunrise because we're shooting nights. So much fun.

1117
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: And then you brought me on Hollywood Arlings, which is

1118
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: just fun, which is just a ton of fun. Yeah,

1119
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: that was a really fun job, I have to say,

1120
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, like getting to do something like that with

1121
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: people you love and bringing all you know friends in

1122
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: and like just the improv nature of that show. I

1123
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know why more things aren't like that. Um, I

1124
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: was just because more people won't allow it, because because

1125
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: the networks and stuff don't allow it. That's that's the

1126
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: answer to that. Unfortunately, and I mean even as a

1127
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: rehearsal process, even as a director, I think about, you know,

1128
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: having people talk about their characters or talk in character

1129
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: about who they are. I mean, it's such a valuable

1130
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: tool to have and I wish that there was, you know,

1131
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: more rehearsal time to do stuff like that, or even

1132
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: just improv scenes between characters, because I think it's I mean,

1133
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: it was just really the best. Christine, tell everyone where

1134
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: we can find you and where we can see you,

1135
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: and tell us about your podcast with Stacy. Yes, um,

1136
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram at yolacon Yo Lincoln

1137
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Um and our podcast he's called We have an Instagram

1138
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: it's called Keenan and Laken Give you Deja Vu. I

1139
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: love it, And that will be coming out shortly. We

1140
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: have like a few more episodes to film in season one.

1141
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, she's a lawyer, you guys, she could get

1142
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: exactly a criminal case and she's like, I'm sorry, I

1143
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: got to put these people away and I'm like real

1144
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: work to do. Yeah, so so very soon probably sometimes

1145
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: fall incredible. Well, thank you so much for being here

1146
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: with us. Always fun to catch up with you. And um,

1147
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you're you're a mom inspiration. We didn't even get to

1148
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that you have two beautiful children

1149
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: in a fantastic husband, but you're always like such an

1150
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: inspiration for me, both both work wise and personally. Um,

1151
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: I just said, I look at you in so many ways.

1152
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. So good to see

1153
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: you guys. Bye bye. I don't like her the worst.

1154
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: She is just terrible, isn't she. Yeah, she's just you

1155
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: know what. One of the things I just love about

1156
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: her so much is never once do I have a

1157
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: single memory of her where she's ever been anything other

1158
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: than just totally her. She is one of the most authentic,

1159
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: genuine people. There's no airs about her. She's just who like.

1160
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: Who you see is who you get. She's always smiling,

1161
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: always smiling, and helpful. When I was pregnant with Adler

1162
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: and I knew absolutely nothing about what was about to

1163
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: happen to me, I knew, I knew, you know, your

1164
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: first time mom, you don't know anything. She was one

1165
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: of the only people to pull me aside and say, listen,

1166
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: here's gonna be some things you're gonna need to do,

1167
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: and here's gonna be how you're gonna feel, and here's

1168
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: what's what's going to happen? And and I don't want

1169
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: you to feel blindsided by it. And she just gave

1170
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: me and she put me in touch with people who

1171
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: were able to like I mean, she was phenomenal and

1172
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean I've talked to her about directing

1173
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: stuff like I I and I remember because she was

1174
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: saying she she was shadowing on Girl Meets World. Yeah,

1175
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: I knew when she was trying to get into directing,

1176
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: and I remember, you know, watching her do it and

1177
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: now to see the amazing career she's had, um and

1178
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: we'll continue to have, is is just wonderful. But I

1179
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: also has to be said, a wonderful actor. I never

1180
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: watched that, I said. I realized as we were going

1181
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: into this was like I don't think I've seen a

1182
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: single episode, which is you know, maybe not that crazy,

1183
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: but I don't know what that show. I mean, I

1184
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: have like an image of like it was a family show,

1185
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: you know what I knew, But it was really working

1186
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: with her an acting class and then working with her

1187
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: on Buck Naked Arson. I just she is such a

1188
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: good actor. And I always always thought like just like

1189
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: always brought professional attitude, like you said, super positive but genuine,

1190
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: but then also just talented, like she could make a

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: scene come alive. Such a good actor. She's incredible. So

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that she joined us for that. And

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Speaker 1: our next episode will be that we are are recapping

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Speaker 1: season one, episode fourteen, the b Team of Life. It

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Speaker 1: aired originally January, so we will see you all later

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Speaker 1: in the week with that. Um, you can follow us

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Speaker 1: buy our March March pod Meets World Show dot com.

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Speaker 1: And um, we get your emails this uh this last week.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what yet, but boy did we

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Speaker 1: get a lot of emails. It out one particular subject

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Speaker 1: and void did we here? Um, so I would like

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Speaker 1: to say email us, but unless you're gonnote if if

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Speaker 1: you write, write about anything other than the Lama pen.

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Speaker 1: We know about the Lama pen. Okay, we got it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. If somebody could send

1207
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Speaker 1: in some emails about that, I'd appreciate Pod Meets World

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Speaker 1: Show at gmail dot com. If you insist on writing

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Speaker 1: more about the Lama pen, we will have to close

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Speaker 1: the email down. Thank you guys for being with us. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think It's you. We Love you All. Pod dismissed.

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