1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Oh, let's just you. 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am on Podcast one eleven productions. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: I heart Radio Media. There's such a big company. They 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: have so many different categories. I gotta split up I 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: heart Podcasts at three major categories. Wow. And we're gonna 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: do a recap Road to Harvard with the one and 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: only Ariel Cabell. How you doing, Ariel good. 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be back on this with you. 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I know, Aaron and I are. I gotta tell you 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: we're Let's just tell the people we're real good together. 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: But you know what the thing is, I think you're 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: good with everybody. It's me that's the issue. Right. So 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: it's like, I think you're good with everybody. You make 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: everybody look good. So we did a we did a 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: very nice convention together up in New Milford, Connecticut, with 18 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: these great promoters and and so you you host the 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: panels or you hosted mine anyway, Yeah, and there was 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: like a thousand people fans there, and I mean, you're 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: so good at that and you just own that space 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: and you come on and they fall in love with you, 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: and I could basically say anything I want. They're still 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: going to like me because they like you so much. 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: And that's how it is. I give you all the credit. 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: That's very kind. That was a great group of people, 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: wasn't it. 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that was pretty We were. 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: Like, wow, we got hit with the energy and then 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: and you were so fun on stage. I feel like 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: we had we had such a blast going back and 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: forth and then bringing on that that I forget his. 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Name, oh the guy the guy that fell on office chair. 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: But you know what a great way to make it 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: on stage. 36 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're sitting let me I'll tell the story. 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: So we're sitting there, we're sitting there with Ariel goes 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: up on stage. The fans are going crazy. So I 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: come up. She introduces me, and we're going to talk 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: and we're getting into our talk and the fans are pomped, 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: and there's a guy, a couple sitting in the front 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: row to the right of us, and the guy his 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: chair collapses like just fall on like the I mean, 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: just like bam. He slams down on the ground and Ariel, 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: quick thinker that she is, you know, turns it into 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: a win for everybody and says, you know, are you 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: okay this kind of thing, and gets him up on stage, 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: sits him down next to this next thing. I know, 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: there's a guy sitting next to me and we're interviewing 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: the guy. His wife is going crazy, just applauding and 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: crying hysterically. He's like, well, how did I get up here? 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: He's not thinking of his you know, his bruised buttocks 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: that he fell on. He's not thinking of any of that. 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: He was okay. I was so relieved to. 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he hit the floor. He hit the floor 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: pretty hard. 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: He did. But that turned into it. It was a 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: great thing. 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: And you know, I have to say that is you know, 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: people feel very strongly about Taylor Swift. 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: They either love her or they're not really in her 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: in her universe. I personally love her. 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: But one of the things that I've taken away from 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: her eras tour that swept the world by storm was 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: how she always it doesn't matter how big the arena is, 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: she always connects to her audience, to her fan. 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: I think that is such a beautiful lesson. 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: For every performer, every human being, like you know, to 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: just never get so caught up that you lose track 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: of what's in front of you and who's in front 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: of you and being pressed to them. And so I 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: just feel like with hosting, it's so important to just 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: constantly keep checking in. 74 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: With our audience. 75 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: And so, I don't know, I feel like I give 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: her credit for inspiring me to just no matter how 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: nervous I am or what's going on in my head, 78 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: to just always check in with the audience and connect 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: with them and know that like that when you break 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: that wall, that is what makes things so special because 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: you're bringing everyone together and then that's like, that's the 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: full experience. And so I don't know, and I've watched 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: her so many times connect with her audience and check 84 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: on people or like send security like that person needs help. 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: All right, listen, listen. I'm just gonna make it simple 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: for everybody. Okay. You know, even if Taylor Swift didn't exist, 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: you still have a gift. You have a gift with people, 88 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: all right. That's all there is to it. It doesn't 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor Swift doesn't matter right now. It's that you 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: have a gift. You know how to do this. You 91 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: know the audience just like they just lean in their's 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: area there and anybody you're with. It's going to benefits. 93 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Stop it, all right, I'm giving credits to billionaires. Okay, 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: don't do it. 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, hey, we have another con coming up together too, 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: so that'll be fun. 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: How we do which one in Savannah? Oh? 98 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 99 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so y'all come on out. 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: It'll you're going You're going to Savannah? 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: What is Savannah? I know, I'm so excited. 102 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: Are you gonna do You're gonna do my panel? Right? 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Please do my panel? 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: We're on We're definitely on one together. But I think 105 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: there's someone else on it too from Gilmore. 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's a couple of people. Yeah, no, 107 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: but I want you to host the panel. Oh okay, 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: Savannah June sixth, June seventh, Savannah, Georgia, Epicans be there 109 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: and Boise, Idaho. I'm gonna be in Boise by the way, 110 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: speaking of cons and if you're not in Boise, Idaho, 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really upset and I'm gonna try to 112 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: get him to bring you up there. 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: What's that? 114 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: May sixteen, seventeen. I'm gonna be in Boise, Idaho. So anyway, 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Savannah's going to be a blast. 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: I can't wait. Do you know I've never been. 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: I well, I used to play ball there. I played 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: for the Savannah Braves in nineteen eighty one. I'm not 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: kidding the. 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: Idea that you played Atlanta, Gosh transferred up to New York. 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was in Savanna. 122 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Savannah's a Braves double a team. Yeah so, but yeah, 123 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: I've been there and since nineteen eighty one. I'm looking 124 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: for That's gonna be fun. That's gonna be fun. 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've ever done epicons before, 126 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: but it's a really three group of people too. 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: So I hope you havn't done Yeah, I do too. 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the episode. Okay, this is 129 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: a synopsis of this episode. After calling off the wedding 130 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: to Max, Laurel I takes a road trip with Rory 131 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to Harvard University, where Rory glimpses her future and Laurel 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I reflects on her past and white what might have 133 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: been directed by Jamie Babbitt, you Know or Your Lover 134 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Her written by Daniel Palladino. And now let's get into 135 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: this car ride and the bed and breakfast. The engagement's 136 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: now broken off, Laura, I and Rory go on the 137 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: road trip. They go to b and b Uh and 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: these two are sharing a bed. So she tells Laura 139 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: she believes she really loves Max. Rory believes that and 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: will regret leaving him. They get into that fight. They 141 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: get into that shouting match. Made me a tad uncomfortable 142 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: watching these two go at each other's throats. I didn't 143 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: like that. 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: What made you uncomfortable about it? 145 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't like the yelling. Really, I don't like the yelling. 146 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, do you feel the same if it's 147 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: like you in an. 148 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Argument with more lie versus versus Rory. 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: I know I love to yell. I just don't like 150 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: hearing it. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the yelling. 151 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I like the yelling, but these two that's not why 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I bought the ticket, you know. I didn't buy a 153 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: ticket to see them yell at each other and like it, honest, Like, hey, 154 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: don each and I know that's part of life, and 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I got it. I'm a big boy, but I just 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I just don't like to say it. 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say you know what I appreciated 158 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: about it again, was like I feel like it was 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: a bit ahead. 160 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say you ahead of 161 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: its time. 162 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: But what Amy and Dan did really well that we 163 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: didn't see a lot in television, especially back then, was 164 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: like to have a mother daughter be. 165 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Best friends but also be able to argue and yell 166 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: like that. I actually think it's really important because that 167 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: is a part of life. 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: Rory thinks that Laurel I loves Max, but Laurel I 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: knows she doesn't. Do you think Rory is right? You 170 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: think Laurel I knows how she feels. 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: That's a bigger question. 172 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: But that's the telling line of the scene when Laura 173 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: I says I wished, I wish I loved him? She doesn't, right, 174 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: And she does in a way, right, I mean, but 175 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: it's not the big enchilada. It was a horrible analogy. 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, tell me a minute. 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, but here's a bigger question. Do you 178 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: think it's because somewhere and moralized soul, she really loves 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: Luke and she just doesn't grasp I mean, I. 180 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: Mean, uh, I thought that's where you were going to 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: go to begin with. I thought, where she loves Luke. 182 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 3: But but I also think it brings up an interesting 183 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: going back to the mother daughter thing with you know, 184 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 3: you can know someone so well, like these two women 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: know each other so well like best friends, but at 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: the same time, at the end of the day, you 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: can't deny that they are a different age obviously mother daughter, 188 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: but I need like I, you know, my partner has 189 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: a fourteen year old and I run into this all 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: the time now, where like she so flies me on 191 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: her years, she teaches me things every single day, and 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: then every now and again she says something and I'm 193 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: like reminded of like, oh, that's so sweet. 194 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: There's that innocence, you know. 195 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: And sometimes I think, like with Laura I, maybe saying 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: she wished she loved him and knowing deep downside it 197 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: is Luke and maybe not. 198 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Being able to come to those being able to base 199 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: that in this moment. Also, I thought, I think it's 200 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: a sweet. 201 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 3: Reminder that Rory is younger and maybe hasn't experienced life 202 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: the way Laura I has, hasn't had loves yet. 203 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: The way Laura I has. 204 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: Like you know, she is in a different place in 205 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: her life and in her in her love life, and 206 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: they I think that's reflected back too, because also Laura 207 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: Sowhat so often acted like the kid, you know, which 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: was like part of the funny appeal. But maybe in 209 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: certain moments then it gets confusing when she really does 210 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: know something about herself. Then maybe the daughter that that 211 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: Rory isn't quite understan standing yet, not there in her 212 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: own life yet. 213 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, all right, let's go to Harvard. That's very 214 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: very well said, by the way. So they go to Harvard, right, 215 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: they both they both kind of fit right in there, right, 216 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: and loyalize having a lot of fun with the you know, 217 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: the student there and skeechy and all this, and he 218 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: hits on her and you're in the same class as 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: I am, the whole thing, so good stuff. So they 220 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: sneak into an open dorm room, take pictures somebody's dorm room, 221 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: and Rory even takes a seat in the lecture hall, 222 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: which I found very satisfying. 223 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: Wait, what is you satisfying about? 224 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: That? 225 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Is that she gained her confidence, that she went in 226 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: there in a very intimidating situation and got involved with 227 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: the discussion and made some real contributions to discussion, and 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: it made her feel good. And it's it's like real 229 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: validation and the hard work paying off and like, hey, 230 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: I can compete at this level, and isn't that a 231 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: wonderful thing? And what a great moment for the show 232 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: and a great more moment for for her personally. You know, 233 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I love those kinds of scenes where it's just like 234 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: it all just sort of comes together a little bit 235 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, ah, something so positive about it's so 236 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: great for her and Laurelie watching her excel at Harvard 237 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: and she's really you know, and I don't even need 238 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: to ask you this question. We just went over it. 239 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, she's realizing something about her own life, and 240 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: laurelizes having another experience. She's you think she's feeling she 241 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: missed out on her college heres because she's looking at 242 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: those valed victorians. Yeah, this could have been my life, 243 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: and you know, all that kind of stuff. 244 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 3: But also again something that how do you tell your 245 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: your child that because. 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's not her fault. 247 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: You can't you can't put that weight on to her, right, 248 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: And so it it's a deep, deep internal. 249 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Struggle and deep reflection of like, oh wow, you know, 250 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: but I also think like that. 251 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: Then again, it goes back to the thing of every 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: parent tries to give their kid more than they. 253 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Had, right, you know. 254 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, how can I make your 255 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: life better to like and and heal the wounds that 256 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: I went through or make sure that you. 257 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Don't have to go through what I went through. So 258 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: I think it's both think. I think it's there's beauty 259 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: in it and there's pain in it, and I think that, like, 260 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's what the show does. 261 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: So well, oh, you know, let's do this together and 262 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: you're on this journey and then boom, right, these big 263 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: life moments hits you in the face. 264 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 265 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: And you know, my own personal experience, anything I've accomplished 266 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: in my life pales in comparison to when I watch 267 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: my son excel and there's just no better feeling. You 268 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: can't top it. It's just, you know what I mean, 269 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: this is all great and how life is turning out 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: and all that. I could trade it in just to 271 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: watch him excel, you know. And I think any parent 272 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: would say the same thing. All right, So the camera 273 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: zoom's in on a picture of that nineteen ninety valve Victoria. 274 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out who she was, you know, 275 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I keep reading the name, and says she in a 276 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: prior episode. Is she going to be in a future episode? 277 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Who is this person? It's not that it's the year, right, 278 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety, it was you know. Well now it's 279 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: like season two, so it's eleven years prior. Right, it's 280 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: a two thousand and twenty and eleven years prior. She 281 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: was what she was twenty or twenty one, because she's 282 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: thirty two now, right, so she's twenty one and this 283 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: could have been her graduation picture because she had that 284 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: potential according to Emily, right, Yeah, she full of regret, 285 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: she's seeing the future for her daughter, all those things. 286 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Is it a mix? 287 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 288 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: I mean I don't think. I think just being human, 289 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: it has to be a mix. Like, I don't know 290 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: either there's something wrong. 291 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: Maybe there's something wrong with me, but like I can't 292 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: imagine that that was me. 293 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: I would feel. 294 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: All of those things. I would feel, Wow, what could 295 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: have been? 296 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: Wow? Look at the track I was on. I didn't 297 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: even realize it. And then off off. 298 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: I went to this other path and then oh my god, 299 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of her, Oh my god, I want 300 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: for her when I never had you know. And then 301 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: also who knew having a kid would bring me back 302 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: to this place where actually, maybe I can have these 303 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: joint experiences with the way that I never saw the 304 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: opportunity before because of having her and me. 305 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Right, she can get all this reward and stimulation without 306 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: having to study. 307 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: Right right? 308 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect, And somebody else is playing the bill. It's great, 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: perfect setup for all right, So let's go back to stars. 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: All right. 311 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: So Suki is spreading the news of Laurelized broken engagement, 312 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: leaving Luke as the last person to find out when 313 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: he does his whole mood shift. So Luke is thrilled 314 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: when he hears about this, Uh the sad news. 315 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: Wait, I want to go back stuff for one second. 316 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: Did they ever tell you storylines before? 317 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Did you find out. 318 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: At table reads table reads? 319 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 320 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so the first time you're reading this and 321 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: you're finding out about it is either you know, night 322 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: before table read at table read pretty close to real time. 323 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we get we get the script pretty last minute, 324 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: so we would get them maybe the day before the 325 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: table reads. Sometimes we wouldn't, but yeah, usually we got 326 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: a script in the mailbox or they'd throw it over 327 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: the fence or something, throw it over the fence, sometimes 328 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: in a plastic bag, sometimes not. So when I'd get it, 329 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: it would be soaked a lot of the times. Wow, yeah, sprinkless, sprinklish, 330 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: we get it. So I think I actually told them 331 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: it's like, could you put in a plastic bag because 332 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: like you know, it takes me forever to dry these 333 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: things out. 334 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's like when we wait when 335 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: we started. Yeah, and even if you. 336 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Got script revision revisions, they would have a PA would 337 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: deliver them to you. 338 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that night you had. 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: Them on set. The next day there was no emailing, 340 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: there was no scene. 341 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, somebody got on their scooter and got it 342 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: to wild. 343 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 344 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: Anyway, so let's let's there's there's so many things that 345 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: happen here. Uh Suki tells Luke about the wedding being 346 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: off as mood lifts everything. Coffee is on the house now. 347 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Laurela and Rory arrived back in town. Everyone in Stars 348 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: Hollow shows some empathy as they drive. Kirk says you 349 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: need a hug. Miss Patty dabs a tear in her eye, 350 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: and then Laurel I has a moment as she pulls 351 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: up to the house and sees the hoopa and she 352 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: she kind of and you know what I noticed about 353 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: the hoopa. That's a lot of grapes on there, wooden grapes. 354 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: Did you see how many wooden graps? Can you see? 355 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Luke just sort of standing all of those wooden grapes? 356 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: There were there were dozens of wooden grapes. And you 357 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: forget about the goat, right? 358 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: That was so funny. 359 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: I feel like, obviously you are and where you would 360 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 6: notice that, but I did didn't notice. 361 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go back and look for that. 362 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: I'll talk about Emily's reaction to Lurlai telling her the 363 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: news that the wedding with Max is all well. 364 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: I feel like with her, you always expect like something dramatic, right, 365 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 5: Like That's how that's the fun of watching her. 366 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Is the drama. I mean, and she's such an incredible actress. 367 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: I when I'm trying to put myself in her shoes. 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: I I guess I get to say I just kind 369 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: of expected it or a version of it, you know, 370 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: I mean, what did you think I she's I mean, 371 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: she's just kind of she's so no matter what situation. 372 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: I think the thing that's fun about watching her is 373 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: that she's always going to be like so kind of 374 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: you know, dry and condescending but real but eloquent but inappropriate, 375 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Like you know. 376 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: She's just. 377 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: Her character was just so fun to watch because it 378 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: just really sometimes couldn't believe that was like happening, and 379 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: she pulled it off so well. She like she's so 380 00:19:51,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: classy but then harsh. 381 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: Do you think there was a sense of relief maybe 382 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: on Emily's part? 383 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: Maybe I get yeah, I mean it's like I was saying, 384 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: I wasn't really surprised, because I feel like why I 385 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: always watched Emily was because you just you're hoping that 386 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: you don't know what she's gonna do or say next, 387 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: Like that is what's so fun about her character. 388 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: So like I knew it wasn't gonna go well, you. 389 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: Know, like. 390 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: See, that's the consistency that I love about Emily's character. 391 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, you know it's not gonna go well, it's. 392 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Not gonna go well, but you just delight in how 393 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: you delight in the dialogue, you delight in what she 394 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: says and how she reacts. It's just so much fun 395 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: to watch her, right, She. 396 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: Is an incredible actress and I feel like with her, 397 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: you could always tell that she's like classically trained because 398 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 3: of how she just not just body the character, but 399 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: like yeah, I just felt like from head to toe, 400 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: every breath of her is so. 401 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: She just became yeah. 402 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And so it's like, yeah, 403 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: look forward to it. You're like, what is she going 404 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: to say? 405 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: All right, here's a closing scene, right, so Lane's back 406 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: from Korea. That was fun. Laurel I takes a seat 407 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: at Luke Steiner. Luke apologizes for being a jerk to Max. 408 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: She also, yeah, like now is a convenient time to 409 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: apologize for being a jerk after gloating over the corpse 410 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: of Max. Right he laid that dragon. Oh it's a jerk. 411 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. It's very convenient. She also tells uh 412 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: Luke he's she's keeping the hookah with all the wooden grapes. 413 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Laurel I says she is finally going to open the 414 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: inn with Suki. Now, so this is a nice feat. 415 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: So it seems like she's getting reassur reassurance from Luke 416 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: about starting her own business, and he's, you know, he's 417 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: truly supportive. He really really is. Maybe that's what was 418 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: missing in the relationship with Max. 419 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: The support. Yeah maybe. I mean, when you read. 420 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: The script and you saw what was happening, what did 421 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: you did you feel like, Oh, this may be a 422 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: moment where Lorlyon and Luke don't come back together, or 423 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: this is one more kind of not on their story 424 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: and they're going to keep circling each other. 425 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Nah. I always knew they were just going to toy 426 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: with the audience year after year, and I was just 427 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through it. They didn't tell me, 428 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: they didn't tell me their plans. I was not I 429 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: was not given any storylines. But I just thought, nah, yeah, 430 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: I never really got nervous. I never really got nervous that, 431 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: oh god, my job is in jeopardy, or at least 432 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: my my status on the show. 433 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 2: Was Yeah, yeah, I just I just felt. 434 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I just felt the chemistry was so good and the 435 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: story line is so good, and yeah, isn't it just 436 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: so brave and courageous of Amy and Dan to to 437 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: to slow burn it over over this period of time 438 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: And it wasn't even two years yet. The fans, because 439 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: the fans at this point were like, get them together. 440 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe they're not together this, you know, you 441 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: gotta get them together. And I just kind of knew, man, 442 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna milk this for everything it's worth because I 443 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: remember having a conversation with Amy and Dan about it 444 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: and and they said, you know, you give you give 445 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: the fans what you want, what they want, and they 446 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: go away, and it's like, we got to really just 447 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: draw this out. 448 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 449 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, great sentence they have. 450 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: They have insight that if you have you know, they know, 451 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: they know, they know drama. 452 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: They know it, but they want and they go away. 453 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 454 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: Uh huh uh huh. 455 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: I think I'd be scared to say that in today's world. 456 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: Oh no, and the Netflix world. Yeah, you gotta give 457 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: it to it right away. Like act one, they're together 458 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: and they're happy there. Yeah. 459 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: But Amy and Dan are so gutsy. That's why I'm 460 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: I love them so much. 461 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Do you think loral lined dream of opening that in 462 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: with Suki kind of tells us that and her dreams 463 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: might go beyond finding love or the one. I mean, 464 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: it's like maybe it's like the real dream is to 465 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: be that that you know, that business woman who owns 466 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: her life, who owns her business, who's running the show. 467 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: What do you think, sure, well, and the and the 468 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: control of it too, right, because like she she lost 469 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: it at such a young age, right, and you know, 470 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: the control of like her own destiny, making her own choices, 471 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: the way of her life that she saw her life 472 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: going versus what happened. And so I think that like 473 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: there is a sense of oh, Okay, this is something 474 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: that I. 475 00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: Can create and control on my own time frame. 476 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: And and you know, be proud of and put work 477 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: into and and build this with someone, right, like with Sookie, 478 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: like that partnership or you're not doing it alone. 479 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: You know, it becomes like family a bit and and 480 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: all of that. 481 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: But I also think like maybe that's also to the 482 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: draw between Luke and Lurlei, Like you know, with Luke's 483 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: coffee shop, and like you know, she sees that connection 484 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: and and and you know, it's like it becomes a 485 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: piece of home for everyone, Like that's that's people in 486 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: the town, Like that's their routine. You know, like people 487 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: went to Luke's for a reason, and it's it's more 488 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: than like a shop or you know, it's an experience. 489 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: It's like so I think. 490 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: Like maybe that was also the draw a little bit 491 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: between the two of them. 492 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. The hoopa with them dozens 493 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: of wooden grapes with the hoopa, the hoopa has wooden goats. 494 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Laura like keeping that, Laurai getting rid of it. Would 495 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: it remind her okay of a feuled max relationship or 496 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: would it remind her more of what Luke Michelangelo wooden 497 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: grape guy did for. 498 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: Her, Luke the grape guy, Luke the. 499 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: Wooden grape guy. 500 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: Okay, tell you something. If she didn't want to be 501 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: reminded of either, she'd get rid of it. 502 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: Right. We got to watch out for that scene, the 503 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: the burning Hoopa. That's the ad for the new like 504 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, the new Netflix thing, right, Gilmore Girls returns 505 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: with the burning Hoopa. 506 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 3: No, No, that was fully That was her holding on 507 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: to Luke, holding on to These are the types of 508 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: things that make me happy. 509 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: This is what I want. 510 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not there yet, maybe I don't know, maybe 511 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm confused, whatever, but this is. 512 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: The reminder of something that makes me happy. 513 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So the town right, their reaction, they seem 514 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: very empathetic, right that she called off her wedding. Very 515 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: nice to see that kind of support. Let me ask 516 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: you something from from Lindsay's point of view, okay, because 517 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, Lindsay really went through it, and could we 518 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: have seen more of a reaction from stars Hollow after 519 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: the sort of Rory Lindsey Dean love affair thing the triangle. 520 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: I mean, if you want my answer now, I would 521 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: say hell yes'. But that's because I'm in a place 522 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: where I feel more comfortable and confident in saying so, 523 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: like when that'll happen. 524 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: Back in the day, I think I was telling you 525 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: this at the con. 526 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: I was just so happy that I even got hired that, like, 527 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: they could have killed me in one episode and I 528 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't have questioned it. I would just be like so 529 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: much for this experience, I will never forget it. 530 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm straight from Florida. 531 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: I cannot believe that I'm not only in Hollywood on 532 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: a job in a back lot of a studio, but 533 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: like working with incredible actors on a show that happens 534 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: to be a hit. 535 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: And I'm seventeen years old. So I didn't ever think. 536 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: About like the importance of not just my character for 537 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: my storyline, but how it affected the town and the 538 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: people around And so it's a great question because now. 539 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 6: Like, yes, I would have loved that, But back then 540 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 6: I didn't even think about it. 541 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: I just was like, you know, especially in my last day, 542 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that I got through 543 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: it without crying, that I was professional and everyone knew 544 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: that I was just you know, grateful for the time. 545 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: And I think too, I had such little confidence in 546 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: myself that I think that I was like, well, yeah, 547 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: of course this happened. 548 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: Of course I had an end date. Of course, you 549 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: know I couldn't sustain it or be a part of 550 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: But I just I really I didn't. 551 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: I had it definitely had you know, imposture syndrome to 552 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: syndrome to work through. 553 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: So I never questioned it before. 554 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: All right, So that's gonna be a wrap. Ariel. Such 555 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to you again. You too, We 556 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: got we got to have you back on. I mean, 557 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: this is just getting ridiculous. I mean, I miss I 558 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: miss you when you're gone. 559 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: I would love to come back on. 560 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to try and convince have you 561 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: had a mile or a couple of time, Oh okay, 562 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: maybe been together when because the movie comes out next spring. 563 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: That would be so fun to do like Little Reunion 564 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: or something. 565 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be really cool. Yeah, why don't we just 566 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: do our own convention and be at the corner of 567 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Santa Monica and Universal and there you go. Let's we'll 568 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: have microphones, I think way for people. No, that's a 569 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: great idea. That's actually a great idea. Talk to him 570 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: about it, you know, well, I. 571 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, I have no idea. I'm literally just spewing 572 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: that out of my mouth as we talk. So yeah, 573 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: I'll talk. 574 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: To right right right, all right, Ariel, Thank you so 575 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: very much. Always a great time with you, and thank 576 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: you for the best fans on the planet. Keep the 577 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: downloads and coming, keep the love coming, keep the comments coming, 578 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: thumbs up or down, we want them all. 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