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Speaker 1: Hi. My name is joy il Noo Cole Johnson, and
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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, what's up? Thanks for joining me here for
Speaker 2: another episode of Off the Beat. I am your joyous
Speaker 2: and ready to laugh host Brian Baumgartner. My guest today
Speaker 2: well is not only joy full, she is Joyelle Nicole Johnson.
Speaker 2: Joyelle is a hilarious stand up comedian. You may have
Speaker 2: seen her on Late Night with Seth Myers, The Tonight
Speaker 2: Show starring Jimmy Fallon, or maybe even lucky enough to
Speaker 2: catch her live at a festival like Bona Rou San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Sketch Fest, New York Comedy Festival, Bumber Shoot. She's amazing
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Speaker 1: Cook get every more over from the night before.
Speaker 2: What's up, Joyelle?
Speaker 1: Hello? Brian? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm fantastic. I like being joined with another person that
Speaker 1: has an alliterative name.
Speaker 2: Yes, just just mumble a bunch of bees. You'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. It'll be It'll be good. Uh are you
Speaker 2: down in the at L I.
Speaker 1: Am up in the buk Baby, I moved. I left Georgia,
Speaker 1: so hopefully they will still handle it this election. So
Speaker 1: now I'm voting in New York again.
Speaker 2: Oh so you're out. So you grew up in Jersey,
Speaker 2: you're now in New York. You're in the Brooklyn? Is
Speaker 2: that the b K?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay? Fancy pants? Then that's all I know about Brooklyn. Now.
Speaker 1: It's just and the fanciest building I've ever lived in.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I guess I'm the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm probably a gentrifier. I'm living with them, but I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Sorry you so you were in it? How long were
Speaker 2: you in Atlanta? I'm from there, by the way, that's why.
Speaker 2: That's why of a special interest to me.
Speaker 1: Amazing, which part.
Speaker 2: Kind of Sandy Springs. Yeah, speaking of fancy I don't
Speaker 2: know about that. It's probably fancier not well now, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think the city extends out to where
Speaker 2: we didn't even It was like cows and farms when
Speaker 2: I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: My parents live in Stone Mountains, so that that's where
Speaker 1: I was born. Were you born at Stone Mountains?
Speaker 2: I mean not literally on the mountain, but yes, that's
Speaker 2: where I That's where I was that's where I deliver from.
Speaker 1: They deliver babies on top of the mountains.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a light show they do, right, the
Speaker 2: con themed light show on the face of Stone Mountains. Yes,
Speaker 2: good old do they they do? They still do it.
Speaker 2: They don't still do it, do they? They do?
Speaker 1: So still do it. They still have Confederate flags flying
Speaker 1: on Stone Mountain. And it's so funny because Stone Mountain
Speaker 1: is one of the richest black communities in America, the
Speaker 1: top ten most affluent African American communities, and just the
Speaker 1: Confederate flags flying on top of the mountain and the
Speaker 1: soldiers etched in the side, you know.
Speaker 2: All, well, yeah, so I was gonna you know, I've
Speaker 2: been gone a long time. But remind me and tell
Speaker 2: so Stone Mountain is the largest piece of granite, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the largest piece of granite, which is therefore a mountain.
Speaker 2: It's not like the Rockies, but it's a mountain.
Speaker 1: It is a mountain. I climbed it many times.
Speaker 2: Me me as well when I was a kid and
Speaker 2: etched into the mountain instead of the presidents in the
Speaker 2: Dakota what's that called again? The thing Everest? No, not
Speaker 2: mount Everest. No, where the where the President, they're in
Speaker 2: the Mount Rushmore. I was like, it's not Everest, No,
Speaker 2: it's Mount Rushmore. So similar to that. Into the granite
Speaker 2: there is a carving. Is it Confederate? Is that what
Speaker 2: it is? Is it Confederate?
Speaker 1: Don't get me to lie, but I was always under
Speaker 1: the impression it was Confederate soldiers. Let's get a fact
Speaker 1: check or diego what you're doing.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we we're gonna fact check this and
Speaker 2: if I'm not. But but the point is this, there's
Speaker 2: a light show like every night in the summer, and
Speaker 2: there's like laser show at least is what they ca
Speaker 2: They still do this, right, they still do the laser
Speaker 2: show and you sit outside and then the etching on
Speaker 2: the mountain comes to life. Yes, and they guiding. They
Speaker 2: the horses start galloping away. Wow, they haven't thought about
Speaker 2: that in a long time. Yes I have, nor have
Speaker 2: I been there in a long time. But yes, I
Speaker 2: grew I was. I didn't grow up there, but I
Speaker 2: was born there. Okay, Stone Mountain area. All right, So
Speaker 2: enough about the Confederacy.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's nothing like starting off a conversation and with the Confederacy,
Speaker 2: what part of Jersey are you from.
Speaker 1: I'm a Union, New Jersey girl. I went to Union
Speaker 1: High School.
Speaker 2: Okay, so not far from New York City, not at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty minutes, baby. That's why I was always looking
Speaker 1: to the city. I was like, I'm moving there.
Speaker 2: I can't really was that a dream for you? Early on?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I was going to New York. My mother would
Speaker 1: let me go take acting classes by myself on the
Speaker 1: bus when I was like thirteen years old. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was that was what Hell's Kitchen was, not
Speaker 1: the fabulous gay bastion of wealth it is now. That's
Speaker 1: when it was like before Rudy Giuliati, it just all
Speaker 1: drugged out. And she showed me how to get to
Speaker 1: the acting class. I had to walk from port authority,
Speaker 1: and she was like, if you want to do this,
Speaker 1: you got to do it on your own. And I did.
Speaker 2: And you wanted to do it that bad.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this is thirteen. So when did you kind of
Speaker 2: decide that this was what you wanted to do around then?
Speaker 1: I think before then I was always looking to My
Speaker 1: mother would take me to place. She'd take me to
Speaker 1: all the cultural things, and I was like, whatever this is,
Speaker 1: I want to do it.
Speaker 2: She was a nurse, right, did she have a creative side.
Speaker 1: Yes, she was always obsessed with like the piano. She
Speaker 1: was one of those people that just like wishes she
Speaker 1: could be like a concert pianist. I think that was
Speaker 1: like my mother's in her head heart dreams. So she
Speaker 1: put me in piano lessons. My mother used to be
Speaker 1: a dancer. She put me in dance lessons and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I was like, I want to get
Speaker 1: on the stage. She was like, all right, let's put
Speaker 1: you in classes.
Speaker 2: So New York and your proximity to the city and
Speaker 2: all it had to offer and classes. Do you feel
Speaker 2: like that that influence? I mean, you had an idea,
Speaker 2: you wanted to do it, But what talk to me
Speaker 2: about what the city itself like that gave you at
Speaker 2: a young age and your exposure to these plays and
Speaker 2: experiences that you had.
Speaker 1: I just love. I mean, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: averse to the congestion of New York City and I
Speaker 1: love it. It feels like a blanket to me, like
Speaker 1: I'm temple granding and all of the human beings that
Speaker 1: are walking by, and I just loved it. And I
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be places where it's like everybody
Speaker 1: is different diverse wise. You know. She moved us to Union,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which was the suburbs, and it was a
Speaker 1: very white suburb in New Jersey. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I go to the city. I see all people that
Speaker 1: look like me and people who don't look like me,
Speaker 1: and they all look like they're having a good time.
Speaker 1: That was my kid brain, right. I didn't think about
Speaker 1: paying rent, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean that's a whole other thing. I
Speaker 2: was just there last week and I will say this
Speaker 2: though here here's I love the city as well, and
Speaker 2: the energy and the people again, just like everybody being out.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing when it it was like the first
Speaker 2: nice day of the spring and everybody came out. Everybody
Speaker 2: that's too much, Come on, everybody go back.
Speaker 1: It's like going to Coney Island on Memorial Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't do this. Yeah no, But it's
Speaker 2: just the streets. It's just like third and twenty seventh.
Speaker 2: There's one thousand people outside. It's like like because people
Speaker 2: talk about la like nobody works, Like where why are
Speaker 2: all these people in a coffee shop? You walk around
Speaker 2: New York on a on a nice spring day, it's
Speaker 2: like where, Why don't you have to be somewhere?
Speaker 1: That's every time I see a kid out and I
Speaker 1: think it could be like Saturday at noon, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why aren't you in school? Why aren't you outside?
Speaker 2: And if you're not, as you should be in camp
Speaker 2: to be somewhere.
Speaker 1: We should be somewhere. Why do you walk in the streets.
Speaker 2: I read that you moved to LA with your sister.
Speaker 2: She was in a writing program at USC. Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, to the writing program there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So how old were you then when you when
Speaker 2: you moved to LA.
Speaker 1: I graduated from Boston College. Okay, and it was the
Speaker 1: summer I graduated. I was like, let's go.
Speaker 2: So you just wanted to be in LA or was
Speaker 2: it because she was there?
Speaker 1: I think it's because she was there. It was also
Speaker 1: because of acting, like having the bug and wanting to
Speaker 1: just go see what could happen out there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: When did you start doing stand up?
Speaker 1: I started in two thousand and seven?
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know I'm not good at math, So
Speaker 2: how so when is this like? In? Is this after?
Speaker 2: This is after college?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah? I graduated two thousand and three and moved
Speaker 1: out to LA.
Speaker 2: So you were just trying to be an actor, absolutely.
Speaker 1: And you know, back then it was just like a
Speaker 1: lot of background work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also would do PA work too, So I
Speaker 1: was like, I just want to be involved in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. Uh, So I would do PA jobs.
Speaker 1: I worked on a lot of reality shows and I
Speaker 1: did transcribing, where I'm like typing what the actors are
Speaker 1: saying for the reality show. So I just did like
Speaker 1: every little job I can do out there.
Speaker 2: Did you did you PA for for scripted shows too?
Speaker 1: I paid No, I didn't pay for any scripted shows,
Speaker 1: music videos and reality shows, because it's like, once you
Speaker 1: get in a niche, you just keep getting hired by
Speaker 1: the same people exactly, which is why I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't. It's like I don't want to be in
Speaker 1: this this particular rat race.
Speaker 2: So are you aud So you're auditioning, You're you're you're auditioning,
Speaker 2: You're finding odd jobs and and and doing background work
Speaker 2: and uh and and PA, what made you start to
Speaker 2: want to or what made what made you get on
Speaker 2: the stage and try stand up for the first time?
Speaker 1: I think I had smoked a joint and I was
Speaker 1: but no, I was. I had been going. So my
Speaker 1: sister and I would go to the Laugh Factory and
Speaker 1: Sunday nights was the black night, so it was called
Speaker 1: Chocolate Sundays. It's still there. And we'd go like once
Speaker 1: a quarter, you know, right, and then we were like
Speaker 1: once a month, and then I started going by myself
Speaker 1: like once a week. And I had always loved George
Speaker 1: Carlin and loved stand up and stuff, but I was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm scared. That seems scary. But I looked
Speaker 1: at it. I was like, it looks like I can
Speaker 1: do it, but I'm just scared. So I just kept going.
Speaker 1: And then I joined a group that was doing a
Speaker 1: Wednesday night show at the Laugh Factory.
Speaker 2: Okay, So was it like this was improv or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing improv but also stand up in
Speaker 1: between the improv, and it was it was called Kevin Hart.
Speaker 2: Was okay, So that's.
Speaker 1: The Comedy Playground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, comedy Playground. It disbanded fairly quickly.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was why did disband.
Speaker 1: Because Kevin was too busy. He was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: go do every other thing. I don't have time for this.
Speaker 1: So everybody was like okay, and everyone's prolific.
Speaker 2: I heard. I heard he does a lot of projects.
Speaker 1: I've heard too.
Speaker 2: I've heard that that man okay.
Speaker 1: That man will work okay, and so yeah, So he
Speaker 1: left and everybody in the group was a stand up comic.
Speaker 1: So my one friend, Candice Thompson, was like, do you
Speaker 1: want to do open mics? And I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and we just started doing open mics together.
Speaker 2: Was she helping you? Were there people helping you write material?
Speaker 2: Or were you just writing your own material?
Speaker 1: Just writing your own material that start of stand up
Speaker 1: where you know, you're like roaches. Let's talk about roaches airplane.
Speaker 1: We all on airplane's.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing though? Are you trying to
Speaker 2: find a universal idea or an idea that everyone has
Speaker 2: an experience with?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, because you think about what has been funny your
Speaker 1: whole life, you know, and I think it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have money at the time, I had an
Speaker 1: okay apartment, but you know it's like roaches. Everyone has roaches.
Speaker 1: So just trying to be as relatable as possible.
Speaker 2: Right, So you start doing open mics, how is it going?
Speaker 2: Are you finding success right away?
Speaker 1: No? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Not?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I want to hear about.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the grind of first of all, paying
Speaker 1: to do an open mic. We would sometimes have to
Speaker 1: pay shout out to the Bliss Cafe. That was the
Speaker 1: one where it would be like five dollars to perform.
Speaker 2: You had pay five dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to buy something, so oh you.
Speaker 2: Had to buy You didn't have to pay literally five dollars,
Speaker 2: but you had to buy something.
Speaker 1: Something at least five dollars worse.
Speaker 2: That's just rude. I mean, look, if you if you
Speaker 2: if you're gonna charge I mean, these are hypothetical numbers.
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna be like, Okay, we're gonna charge
Speaker 2: you one hundred dollars or we're going to charge you
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars to perform this, I understand. Five dollars
Speaker 2: it's just insult. That's just like we're just doing this
Speaker 2: to make you feel like a warm bag of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to break your twenty so it's like
Speaker 1: and then you're getting up there and it's too absolute
Speaker 1: dead silence. I mean, every comedian knows the slog of
Speaker 1: open bicing. You're performing in front of other comedians who
Speaker 1: are just worried about their own jokes, so they're not
Speaker 1: paying attention, and I honestly think it's a step you
Speaker 1: cannot skip. You know, it really gets you used to silence,
Speaker 1: and that's a huge thing you got to get used
Speaker 1: to doing stand up.
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you? What do you do?
Speaker 2: Do you acknowledge it? Like, do you acknowledge the silence?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean when you like back then, for sure,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, none of you are listening to me,
Speaker 1: like because you're nervous. So but now I'm like, I
Speaker 1: know you're listening, but you know, but this is I'm
Speaker 1: doing professional shows now, So when people are quiet, that
Speaker 1: means they're listening. Back then, no one was listening. So
Speaker 1: it's just like you're quiet and not listening.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, things have certainly changed for you now the
Speaker 2: past few years. You've done a number of your own projects,
Speaker 2: recorded a comedy album Yell Joy, an hour long special
Speaker 2: love Joy. I get it. We're playing with the joy Joe, trying.
Speaker 1: To put some joy in the world.
Speaker 2: Uh. You've also been writing and producing these projects yourself.
Speaker 2: Now do you consider yourself now? And I know you've
Speaker 2: done some acting stuff and we can talk about that,
Speaker 2: but do you consider yourself now a writer, an actor,
Speaker 2: or a performer or in that order, I guess because
Speaker 2: you are all three. So that was a dumb question.
Speaker 2: But do you know what I'm saying, Like, where is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Where do you feel like your focus is? Now?
Speaker 1: Okay? So it's funny because it's like, how do I
Speaker 1: answer that question when people in certain situations, So like recently,
Speaker 1: I was filling out a form and I forget what
Speaker 1: the forum was for, but ask profession and I just
Speaker 1: put a writer because sometimes that's what's easier, because it's like,
Speaker 1: once you say you a comedian, it's like, yeah, a comedian,
Speaker 1: my favorite person is? It starts somebody I hate. Now
Speaker 1: I have to like have a conversation with you. So
Speaker 1: like if I'm being asked in a kind of situation
Speaker 1: where I don't really have to talk to somebody, I'm like, writer,
Speaker 1: I'm just a writer. But I consider myself a stand
Speaker 1: up just because stand up is so specific, right, and
Speaker 1: it was the first thing I really started to get
Speaker 1: good at, you know, And so I would say I'm
Speaker 1: a stand up and a writer because I write my
Speaker 1: own stand up who acts okay and wants to be
Speaker 1: a better actor. And wants to like, really, you know,
Speaker 1: study the craft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting and I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: only interesting to me. I feel like people don't get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But I am often referred to or
Speaker 2: introduced as a comedian, and I am not that. Like
Speaker 2: I can be a comedic actor, but I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't consider myself a comedian in any way. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why it Like it makes me feel like
Speaker 2: an impost or something, or like I'm trying to be
Speaker 2: something that I'm not. I don't know. It's it's a
Speaker 2: very complicated thing for me. But I love that you
Speaker 2: or say like that's what I like, that's what I am.
Speaker 2: I mean to me, stand up is a comedian, right,
Speaker 2: like that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I just fell in love with you, Brian, because I
Speaker 1: loved you before this. But this happens with comics where
Speaker 1: people like I don't know if you knew who Patresea
Speaker 1: and Neil.
Speaker 2: Of course, oh my god, no, I worked with him, yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: but no no no, yeah, and in fact I saw
Speaker 2: Patrese do some open uh open mic nights uh before
Speaker 2: that we work together.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so he he was like one of my
Speaker 1: you know, just I followed him around like the last
Speaker 1: year of his life, and I moved to New York
Speaker 1: and I was just like, he'd let me open for him.
Speaker 1: A couple of times he would bully me and also
Speaker 1: just like give me advice that I would just sit
Speaker 1: there and take. And the first time I met him
Speaker 1: was back in two thousand and eight, and I was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian and he was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: And I was like what And he goes, I'm a
Speaker 1: comedian and you and I are not the same thing.
Speaker 1: And I remember like getting my little feelings hurt. But now,
Speaker 1: you know, almost twenty years later, I'm like, I get
Speaker 1: it now. When somebody will be like, I'm a comedian,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not. I don't see you anywhere. You
Speaker 1: don't hang out where I hang out. Like how many
Speaker 1: shows have you done? How much have you gotten paid
Speaker 1: to do these shows? How many times have you bombed
Speaker 1: your ass off in front of your family? Like tell
Speaker 1: me what you have done to say you are a comedian, right,
Speaker 1: And when certain comedic actors they'll say comedian, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're comedic actors. So I really appreciate that you said that,
Speaker 1: and a lot of comedians would also appreciate that you
Speaker 1: feel that way.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and it's a weird thing like because then
Speaker 2: it sounds I don't know which way it's pretentious, but
Speaker 2: like I never correct people because then it just seems
Speaker 2: like what what you know, They're not going to understand
Speaker 2: what I'm saying any Anyway, when people ask if I
Speaker 2: do stand up, my response is kinda but I know
Speaker 2: that for me now, and I'm saying that this sounds
Speaker 2: like a weird humble brag, but I'm trying to. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get to the root of it. I know
Speaker 2: for me now it's cheating, right, Like I know now
Speaker 2: all I need to do are a few things and
Speaker 2: they're they're absolutely going to laugh. But they're not going
Speaker 2: to laugh because what I'm saying necessarily is funny or
Speaker 2: well crafted, or that I have I have I have
Speaker 2: framed a point or an argument in a certain way
Speaker 2: that is is good. They're going to laugh because they
Speaker 2: know who I am, which is very, very different from
Speaker 2: what you do from being a comedian and being out there,
Speaker 2: because they may show up if they know you, if
Speaker 2: they've heard you, if they've heard your album and expect
Speaker 2: to laugh. But I still think if you, if you,
Speaker 2: if you don't have it that night, they're gonna give
Speaker 2: it to you. Right, Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: And yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, the funny thing about fame is kind of like
Speaker 1: I've heard this before. I want to say, It's like
Speaker 1: Chris Rock might have said it where he's like, the
Speaker 1: fame will lash you are good maybe five maybe ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but after that, people really do want to hear jokes
Speaker 1: if you're at a comedy club, Like if we're sitting
Speaker 1: here right too, drink minimal, I'm gonna use some jokes, Bryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, but I get what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't ever go over the alloted time. I guess
Speaker 2: I just keep to what I know. Yeah, that's very
Speaker 2: very interesting to me. I want to tell you this story.
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know that I've ever shared this
Speaker 2: on you, but I went very early on. Did you
Speaker 2: ever know? I don't even know if it's still open
Speaker 2: the m bar is that are they still doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are they still doing stand up stuff there?
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't been in comedy in LA for
Speaker 1: so long.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this this was not It's not a comedy club.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a bar, and they used to do
Speaker 2: like an open mic situation, and I went and these
Speaker 2: this was this was sort of it. This was an
Speaker 2: open mic, not like you had to pay five dollars
Speaker 2: to get in. This was an open mic. Like in general,
Speaker 2: established comedians would be trying out new material, right, So
Speaker 2: like I went one night and Sarah Silverman was and
Speaker 2: this is a long time ago, so they weren't like
Speaker 2: who they are now. But David Cross there were a
Speaker 2: number of people showing up and I saw this young
Speaker 2: comedian behind a piano, Robinson, get up on stage move
Speaker 2: you know, there's a whatever seven to twelve minute break
Speaker 2: while he puts his piano, sets all this stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the what the hell is this guy doing? And
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it was the funniest twelve minutes I've
Speaker 2: I had ever seen, and like blew everybody like beyond
Speaker 2: out of the water. And that was my That was
Speaker 2: my sort of my first experience with seeing you know,
Speaker 2: seeing a bunch of like established people and they were
Speaker 2: trying stuff so that let's be fair, and this young
Speaker 2: guy comes up and just crushes it. Do you have
Speaker 2: an experience or a memory from your own life where
Speaker 2: there was a night that everything hit for you and
Speaker 2: it just like Boom went went nuts.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, so many. But also Craig. I absolutely love
Speaker 1: Craig And have you met his brother Chris? Yes, as well,
Speaker 1: you know the Nasty Delicious and Chris, Chris and I
Speaker 1: hang out a bunch like that's one of my that's
Speaker 1: one of my best ties. And it's funny because it's
Speaker 1: like Chris is like I would say seventy percent music
Speaker 1: and thirty percent comedy, right, and Craig, I feel like,
Speaker 1: is the seventy percent comedy? You know? Thirty percent maybe
Speaker 1: forty five fifty percent music? By the way, I mean
Speaker 1: absolute geniuses.
Speaker 2: Both of them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what was going on in your mother's UTERUSM?
Speaker 2: But that's a question you're not supposed to ask.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I think you're supposed to ask that.
Speaker 1: But I think the first time I really felt it
Speaker 1: because Chocolate Sundays would have an amateur night right before
Speaker 1: the main show started and I would watch this. They
Speaker 1: gave us three minutes and so that was the show.
Speaker 1: I kept going to this see because I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do the sandmatetur Knight. I want to
Speaker 1: do the Samature Knight. First time I ever got on stage,
Speaker 1: I bombed my ass off. But I was working up
Speaker 1: to do this amateur night and the first time I
Speaker 1: did it, I crushed, and I was so freaking proud
Speaker 1: of myself because I was so scared, right, but finally
Speaker 1: getting the last in that room. And also, to make
Speaker 1: you know, black people laugh is you know, a feat
Speaker 1: in itself. So to get that, especially also in Hollywood, Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Shows not funny, not funny, Nope.
Speaker 1: No, because they're all like I could be on the
Speaker 1: stage too, bitch. So so to make like a Hollywood
Speaker 1: black crowd laugh just felt so freaking good. And that
Speaker 1: was probably my first year. So I had been doing
Speaker 1: all those open mics and working up to doing that
Speaker 1: amateur night and did a good job. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't quit. I have to keep going.
Speaker 2: What's your what's your process for writing a joke? Like
Speaker 2: how do you how do you get it from roaches
Speaker 2: to like a fully fleshed out idea.
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm more confident in myself after doing it
Speaker 1: for so long that I know it's going to be funny.
Speaker 1: So one of the best pieces of advice I got
Speaker 1: when I first started was that if I'm having a
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody and they laugh, that's a potential for
Speaker 1: a joke. So I can tell now if I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe what happened to me yesterday and
Speaker 1: the person starts laughing, I can also bring that on stage.
Speaker 1: So that's what I've done with Like a lot of
Speaker 1: the stories I tell really happened to me, you know,
Speaker 1: true things that actually happened. But now I can just
Speaker 1: know how to make it funny. And my joke writing
Speaker 1: process now is very much like talking to myself. I
Speaker 1: love talking to myself in the shower. I'll be talking
Speaker 1: to myself, you know, walking down the street New York.
Speaker 1: Best place to talk to yourself openly in the streets
Speaker 1: and nobody will blak it. And you know, so that
Speaker 1: way because I can feel like the rhythm of what
Speaker 1: it's going to be like on stage. And so I'll
Speaker 1: talk into my voice recorder or I'll talk in so
Speaker 1: it's like now I know where to tell the story
Speaker 1: because I'm a storyteller. Now I've picked that up. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not what's the thing about roaches that's not
Speaker 1: my my vibe.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, when you have a story that's happened
Speaker 2: to you and I don't know, I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about like I don't know, for me, maybe the
Speaker 2: best in the business right now. Oh, I'm about to
Speaker 2: say a name, and you're gonna be like, I hate them.
Speaker 2: But Chappelle, I think about his stories, right, and then
Speaker 2: you there gets to a point when you you know
Speaker 2: that what he's saying is didn't actually happen, right, So
Speaker 2: for you, how do you take a story that happened
Speaker 2: to you and decide or figure out like, because obviously
Speaker 2: things will be exaggerated, things will be manufactured for comedic effect,
Speaker 2: Like for you, how do you figure out, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like what percentage that's That's a dumb that's
Speaker 2: like such a dumb question. But I mean, like, for you,
Speaker 2: how much of it is real and how much of
Speaker 2: it is it is invented on top of something funny
Speaker 2: that happened.
Speaker 1: I am a proponent for truth in comedy. So it's
Speaker 1: like I was told, comedy is truth plus exaggeration. So
Speaker 1: for me, seventy seventy five percent true, okay, twenty five
Speaker 1: percent exaggeration and the exaggeration is going to be on
Speaker 1: like the third beat. So you know, it's like comedy
Speaker 1: has the rule of three, and I'll say the truth
Speaker 1: is the one funny thing, second truth, and then the
Speaker 1: third truth is an exaggeration that is like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: just silly, but you can take it there at the end.
Speaker 1: But I want everything to be as truthful as possible.
Speaker 1: So everything that I do say on stage did happen
Speaker 1: to me. But there might be one little beat at
Speaker 1: the end that you're like, Okay, that was silly. But
Speaker 1: I also I'm just not a silly I'm not a
Speaker 1: silly billy. Yeah, I can't be silly billies. But I'm
Speaker 1: too realistic. My mother grew up in the projects of Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I really I'm way too realistic.
Speaker 2: Right do you do you believe in the rule of three?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, in life just in general. You know it ego,
Speaker 1: super ego. We're also you know, the Trinity, Holy Trinity,
Speaker 1: it's all of life is the rule of three.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's very No, that's very interesting. I don't I
Speaker 2: believe in the rule of three as well. I also
Speaker 2: think you know, this podcast is called off the Beat
Speaker 2: because someone taught me at a very young age that
Speaker 2: comedy that occurs off of the expected beat is often
Speaker 2: way more satisfying longer term than giving people exactly what
Speaker 2: they expect. So it doesn't necessarily change the rule of three.
Speaker 2: But finding ways to alter what people's expectations are I
Speaker 2: think is really important and ultimately brings greater comedy. What
Speaker 2: do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I do think there's something
Speaker 1: musical about comedy. I did have this conversation once with Chappelle.
Speaker 1: There's a comedian named T. K. Kirkland. He's an awesome
Speaker 1: he's awesome, but like if you watch him, he is
Speaker 1: almost he's like a conductor conducting. And so Dave was
Speaker 1: talking to me about the cadence that he uses. And
Speaker 1: you know, I have my musical background. I was in
Speaker 1: the marching band.
Speaker 2: All that stuff.
Speaker 1: So when you have a certain cadence on stage, people
Speaker 1: are going to laugh at a point, maybe when you
Speaker 1: didn't even say something funny, but they're used to like
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da laugh
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da laugh.
Speaker 1: That can be broken up into different times sing, which
Speaker 1: is just like music. So it's like three four four
Speaker 1: four whatever you're doing. So, yes, it's not always gonna
Speaker 1: be on three, But yes, I agree with you that
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily always gonna be on the third beat.
Speaker 1: It might be on the second beat. That's the funniest
Speaker 1: thing because I like to say something after a joke
Speaker 1: that'll be like for the comics.
Speaker 2: Right, is there anything you don't that's off limits for you?
Speaker 1: Not for me, because I like for me, I just
Speaker 1: certain things. If somebody tells tells somebody that something is
Speaker 1: hurting them, hurting a community, you know. I do think
Speaker 1: Dave is an example of this right now with the
Speaker 1: trans community. Like, if somebody's saying they're being hurt, I
Speaker 1: would stop, right, you know, I would just be like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to go into that. You know.
Speaker 1: I have a bit. I talk about abortion on stage
Speaker 1: a lot, and my abortion joke is that I got
Speaker 1: pregnant on the floor of an Amtrak train in the
Speaker 1: handicap restroom, which is a true story, like fully true.
Speaker 1: But somebody from the disabled community came up to me
Speaker 1: and she was like, can you please not say that?
Speaker 1: Can you say something else? Can you say accessible restroom?
Speaker 1: Can you not say handicap? And I was like, huh,
Speaker 1: I never thought about it in that way, And sure
Speaker 1: I can do that. I can change it. I mean
Speaker 1: accessible is a lot of syllables and weird syllables that
Speaker 1: I need to practice accessible. But you know, if somebody
Speaker 1: just came up to me, it was just like, look,
Speaker 1: that's not that that made me feel a certain type
Speaker 1: of way. I want to I want to change it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I heard it was a conversation. We don't
Speaker 2: have to debate whether you're a fan of his or not,
Speaker 2: but I thought that the conversation was very interesting. It
Speaker 2: was with Bill Burr, and the conversation was about Blue
Speaker 2: Comics and the question and it was actually Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know who Dan Patrick is.
Speaker 2: He deals a lot in sports. But the question for
Speaker 2: Bill was, you know, how do you figure out or
Speaker 2: where do you sort of you know, stand on Blue
Speaker 2: And Bill's response was people used to think like that
Speaker 2: was bad words, Like I say bad words a lot.
Speaker 2: That makes me a Blue comic, and some people think
Speaker 2: that's cheating. Some people think you have to keep it
Speaker 2: very clean. But he said the problem with that is
Speaker 2: now there are topics that you can get into that
Speaker 2: are also considered blue, whether or not you're saying bad
Speaker 2: words or not. So like the idea of like controversy
Speaker 2: equalling like blue equalling like you you can't say that,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't say that. I guess that's my question to you,
Speaker 2: just because just because I'm interested, like for you, where
Speaker 2: do you stand on that or how do you who
Speaker 2: are you creating your act for? And how willing are
Speaker 2: you to go blue whatever that means to you.
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about it that way. So there's
Speaker 1: a city in this country right now that is a
Speaker 1: bastion for like white boys that want to say the
Speaker 1: end word and kind of like a level of I mean,
Speaker 1: I would definitely say misogyny. I heard a lot of
Speaker 1: gentlemen on stage talking about punching women in the face.
Speaker 2: These are stand ups you're talking about, Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's it's a weird situation where I never
Speaker 1: thought about that as blue, and that is blue to me,
Speaker 1: Like I I have heard white boys do funny in
Speaker 1: word jokes. Neil Brennett actually has a pretty good one,
Speaker 1: but to pursue it, to me, it just it's just
Speaker 1: like why why do you have to pursue that? So
Speaker 1: for me, and that's why I talk about stuff that
Speaker 1: actually has happened to me. So if you're telling a
Speaker 1: story about something that happened to you, sure, But if
Speaker 1: you're just trying to find a way to make the
Speaker 1: in word funny and to be able to say it
Speaker 1: on stage, I don't really I don't really have respect
Speaker 1: for it personally. So that's why I try to stay
Speaker 1: as true to myself as possible, because you know, I
Speaker 1: did get pregnant on the floor in the handicap restroom,
Speaker 1: so it's like that actually happened to me. But if
Speaker 1: you want me to rephrase my words, I'll do that,
Speaker 1: you know, But I'm not going to stop telling the bit.
Speaker 2: Because that's truth and being as.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's about being. It's about being.
Speaker 2: That makes a ton of sense to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, Like those are the people that I
Speaker 1: look up to and love their comedy, where there's an
Speaker 1: authenticity that bleeds off of the stage. You know, I
Speaker 1: can tell when people are lying on stage. I can
Speaker 1: tell when a comic is lying, like I you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes people will lie about having kids and tell bits
Speaker 1: about being a father, and I'm like, what do you
Speaker 1: You don't have enough kids? And they're like it was
Speaker 1: just for the joke. I'm like, just for the joke, say.
Speaker 2: The head word. Oh that's amazing. Well, so you've said
Speaker 2: you're a stand up, you're a comedian, but you don't
Speaker 2: just write jokes for yourself. You're a you're a TV
Speaker 2: writer also an actor. You wrote for a season of
Speaker 2: Broad City. You were in the writer's room there, Now, one,
Speaker 2: why did you do that? And two? Did that help
Speaker 2: you in your stand up? That experience of working on
Speaker 2: the writer's run?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we did. We did the punch up room. So
Speaker 1: the punch up room was after they had written all
Speaker 1: the scripts and they gave the scripts to a bunch
Speaker 1: of comedians and then we did a room of punching.
Speaker 2: Up the scripture.
Speaker 1: And I think I got spoiled in that situation because
Speaker 1: that room was led by two women who let everybody talk.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a very beautiful situation. And I
Speaker 1: just think keeping your brain going, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: doing sudoko. How you say that word sudoku sudo, It's
Speaker 1: like doing those puzzles to offset dementia, Like you gotta
Speaker 1: keep your brain move in different directions. So, yeah, looking
Speaker 1: on the paper and figuring out how you would make
Speaker 1: that joke funnier, which is why I can't watch TV
Speaker 1: anymore because it's ruined now where I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would have been funny if they said this, like
Speaker 1: I'm an asshole. So I absolutely it totally helped me
Speaker 1: also be more confident in myself and what I think
Speaker 1: is funny when you have to pitch it out to
Speaker 1: a room that's scary.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's kind of that's kind of the genesis
Speaker 2: of my of my question. Like, so, now you're in
Speaker 2: a room with a bunch of other writers slash comedians,
Speaker 2: and this is not you, you know, talking to yourself
Speaker 2: on the street or in the shower or in your
Speaker 2: apartment or whatever. You're now like, hey, guys, what do
Speaker 2: you think of this?
Speaker 1: Oh? Terrifying, terrified.
Speaker 2: It's got that silence. It's got to be worse.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's crazy because like every situation, there's
Speaker 1: always got to be something that's gonna make you more nervous.
Speaker 1: That's what I realized. It is never going to stop.
Speaker 1: I was with the fantastic George Wallace, that's my uncle.
Speaker 1: He takes me out with him. He took me to
Speaker 1: mask the Square Garden, with him, and right before he
Speaker 1: got on stage, he was like, I'm nervous and I
Speaker 1: was like, you're nervous and he's like, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: you been on stage like a week and a half.
Speaker 1: And I was like, so it never ends, and he
Speaker 1: was like, no, it never ends. It's never going to end.
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you Purgatory for the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. So that's a different type of scary of
Speaker 1: saying a joke in front of a room full of
Speaker 1: comedians who are just staring at you and giving honest
Speaker 1: reactions because if nobody last, they're like, next do you?
Speaker 2: So you get nervous.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Oh my gosh, absolutely every time. Well it
Speaker 1: depends now, so it'll be bigger. Like when I first
Speaker 1: did seth Myers was my first late night set that
Speaker 1: I felt like I was jumping out of an airplane really,
Speaker 1: But by the time I did my second tonight show,
Speaker 1: which was my third late night set, I was much
Speaker 1: more calm because you know, I had done it twice before,
Speaker 1: so it's like I've done the Beacon theater. My second
Speaker 1: time doing the Beacon was not as nerve racking as
Speaker 1: my first time, So it'll just be you know, things
Speaker 1: just keep getting bigger and grazier.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't even know if for me it's nerves
Speaker 2: I get, I get amped. There's like another switch. I
Speaker 2: don't it's hard to describe.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to change it to. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be like I'm excited instead of I'm nerving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get very externally still and calm and then
Speaker 2: but like like inside it's like ooh, there's the switch,
Speaker 2: Like I can feel that. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's an example of that for you now, Like what's something.
Speaker 2: That well, I do shows. I mean I don't do
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it stand up, but I do shows
Speaker 2: at colleges and I appear on stage. It's it's weird
Speaker 2: because I I came from the theater, right, So that's
Speaker 2: what I used to do, and that like yeah, of
Speaker 2: course there was like nerves and you know that like
Speaker 2: oh I have to pee. Thing that goes mysteriously goes
Speaker 2: away the second like you enter the curtain, it just
Speaker 2: goes away. And it's weird. Now like I don't have
Speaker 2: any nerves, Like I don't get nerves. I'm not, like
Speaker 2: but I I do have that like kind of have
Speaker 2: to pee like like I like that happens. So there's
Speaker 2: something in there. That's why I say it's a switch, like,
Speaker 2: it's not nothing. It's not like I'm playing part cheesy
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know why why. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what parcheesy is, but that was what I know.
Speaker 1: That word.
Speaker 2: I don't know how the game, right, it's a game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not playing parcheesy. I don't know. That must have
Speaker 2: been like in my dream last night or something.
Speaker 1: Sitting there waiting to come out.
Speaker 2: More recently, you wrote you appeared on Pause with Sam Jay.
Speaker 2: How'd you get involved there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they hired me for that show. I've known Sam
Speaker 1: Jay for a very long time, like over a decade
Speaker 1: of pursuing this stand up comics. So there were a
Speaker 1: lot of friends in that room that thought I would
Speaker 1: have some fabulous things to contribute.
Speaker 2: Do you prefer I mean, you prefer to be yourself? Right?
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you still meaning as opposed to
Speaker 2: playing a character? Like what does that give you? I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess they just put words in your mouth. But
Speaker 2: I'm going back to what you said, like that you're
Speaker 2: a stand up you're a comedian, right, and so you
Speaker 2: are playing a version of yourself when you're on stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even if you're authentic and real, you're
Speaker 2: still playing a version.
Speaker 1: Now I have a question for you. So, I think
Speaker 1: most actors are playing versions of themselves.
Speaker 2: Have you seen my work?
Speaker 1: But listen, I think there's like ten actors. I think
Speaker 1: there's like ten actors, and everybody else is playing a
Speaker 1: version of themselves that is fitting into a situation. So
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what character I am going to play,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a version of myself until I
Speaker 1: study enough of the craft to actually do some mal
Speaker 1: streep shit, god to do some you know, William H.
Speaker 1: Macy shit.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, So you consider it a
Speaker 2: version of yourself, regardless even if someone else has written
Speaker 2: the words, even if it's a different name. I got it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, just being honestly authentic. And how would I
Speaker 1: respond in this situation and it's like, hello, happy birthday.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna did you do that to me? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that to you. I'm old, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to work technology.
Speaker 2: Oh you just said wait, hold on, you just said
Speaker 2: happy birthday?
Speaker 3: Did I say happy birthday? Someone said happy Birthday. I
Speaker 3: think you had to have sat happy birthday and balloon.
Speaker 3: If you're listening, literally we're looking at each other and
Speaker 3: balloons just started streaming on my face.
Speaker 2: That is so bizarre. That is literally never happening the tape.
Speaker 2: It's not interesting to anybody else, but that was so weird.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Do you like acting?
Speaker 1: Love? Love? That was my first love? No?
Speaker 2: I know that, yeah, but I was just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: are you just over it now?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I haven't done enough of it yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've done stage. I did an off Broadway play last year,
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean television acting. I just I
Speaker 1: want to be one of those lucky people like you
Speaker 1: who got a dove ass character and was able you know,
Speaker 1: to ride that beat.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. No, it is a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: and for me, that's yeah. For me, it is about
Speaker 2: creating that other character. That's the thing that I love about. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw that you're on Only Fans ew uh, not
Speaker 2: exactly like you might think. You're doing stand up on
Speaker 2: their comedy show l m aof How did it go?
Speaker 1: I think it went great. I was at home, I
Speaker 1: was at the gutter Bar in Brooklyn, which is a
Speaker 1: place that I perform at often, and I just had
Speaker 1: a fun time. And that was one of those things
Speaker 1: I wasn't nervous, I was excited for because they were
Speaker 1: just like, we're trying to open up the platform, two
Speaker 1: different things. So I was like, sure, I'll join.
Speaker 2: So this is a new this is a new experiment
Speaker 2: for them, going going in, going in and doing comedy.
Speaker 2: And so how long is it my set? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ten minutes?
Speaker 2: Okay, and you crushed? And do you think this is
Speaker 2: something that they're going to continue to explore and do.
Speaker 1: It's looking like they are. I mean, they're trying to
Speaker 1: get people to have like a you know, the content
Speaker 1: where you come there for that, you know. And of
Speaker 1: course sure do I have people in my dms saying
Speaker 1: some things, Yes, I do, Oh you do do, but
Speaker 1: they tip as long as your tipping, baby, let's do this.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they it's it's been funny. It's been fun
Speaker 1: for me to try to get on this new platform
Speaker 1: and start making money. I mean.
Speaker 2: Money, that's no, that's awesome. You know what I have found.
Speaker 2: I'm going off the rails here slightly, but I want
Speaker 2: to hear your opinion. Are you on all Are you
Speaker 2: on all social media's?
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram and Facebook and I guess formerly x.
Speaker 2: Which Okay, it's going to be over soon. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: kind of done. Okay, that's it. Well, let me tell
Speaker 2: you this. I just, and I mean just, I'm always
Speaker 2: very late to the game. I just joined TikTok Now,
Speaker 2: let me just say this, so you so you just
Speaker 2: are now having a new experience. They're on the only fans,
Speaker 2: do you know what? It's crazy? Someone someone I worked with.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a shout out to someone I
Speaker 2: worked with without saying their name. They told me like
Speaker 2: five years ago to go on OnlyFans and I was like,
Speaker 2: I can't. There's no chance. There's no chance. Like they
Speaker 2: I think that they saw the potential here in terms
Speaker 2: of what you're doing way early. So that's just I
Speaker 2: don't know, that's just fascinating to me. Here's what I
Speaker 2: was going to say, because you talked about the comments.
Speaker 2: Comments on social media are so dramatically different from platform
Speaker 2: to platform, And what's weird is you know that it's
Speaker 2: the same people that are on those platforms, but you
Speaker 2: talk about playing a character. The tenor and tone and
Speaker 2: content of their comments are so different on the different platforms.
Speaker 2: I you know, like I'll roll my eyes at comments
Speaker 2: on something I got on TikTok and I was like,
Speaker 2: I got I can't read I can't read these.
Speaker 1: Like what, like, we shouldn't you shouldn't read them.
Speaker 2: No, it's hard not to.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the sadomascism scratching it it. I
Speaker 1: try not to, but it's almost impossible not to.
Speaker 2: Uh, what what do you have coming up next?
Speaker 1: What do I have coming up next? Oh? So this summer,
Speaker 1: I am literally I'm taking an acting class. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: taking dance classes. Yes, yes, I have a dance class tonight.
Speaker 1: So I am really going to be studying this summer
Speaker 1: because I had a crazy first half of the year
Speaker 1: where I was traveling all over the country and I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me stay put for a couple of months and
Speaker 1: just be in the city. But yeah, I'm also doing
Speaker 1: stand up. I'll be doing stand up all summer at
Speaker 1: the Comedy Seller.
Speaker 2: At the Comedy Seller, Sellar. Congratulations, you're very, very funny.
Speaker 2: I look forward to your next appearance on Only Fans,
Speaker 2: And I mean that in the purest way possible. I'm
Speaker 2: glad that you're exploring that platform because I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of potential for people and a way to
Speaker 2: one connect with fans and two to be able to
Speaker 2: I mean, for you try out new material and be
Speaker 2: able to control that in a way. I think that's
Speaker 2: really super awesome.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. I appreciate that. It's lovely to meet you.
Speaker 2: Very nice to meet you. Thank you so much, Joyelle.
Speaker 2: I uh yeah, I'll be watching all right.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Joyelle, Thank you so much. You know what,
Speaker 2: it was a joy to have you. Thank you for
Speaker 2: making me laugh. I needed that today, folks. If you
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Speaker 2: for me, I'm going to be back here soon with
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Speaker 2: have a great week off. The Beat is hosted and
Speaker 2: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer
Speaker 2: Ling Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers
Speaker 2: are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris and Emily Carr. Our talent
Speaker 2: producer is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is Ali
Speaker 2: Amir Sahed. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by
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