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Speaker 1: I don't know how to work technology.

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Speaker 2: Oh you just said wait, hold on, you just said

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Speaker 3: Did I say happy birthday? Someone said happy birthday? I

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Speaker 2: And if you're listening, literally we're looking at each other,

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Speaker 2: and balloons just started streaming on my face. That is

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Speaker 2: so bizarre. That is literally never happened. It's not interesting

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Speaker 1: Hi. My name is joy il Noo Cole Johnson, and

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Speaker 1: I love therapy and I think you should get a

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, what's up? Thanks for joining me here for

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Speaker 2: another episode of Off the Beat. I am your joyous

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Speaker 2: and ready to laugh host Brian Baumgartner. My guest today

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Speaker 2: well is not only joy full, she is Joyelle Nicole Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Joyelle is a hilarious stand up comedian. You may have

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Speaker 2: seen her on Late Night with Seth Myers, The Tonight

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Speaker 2: Sketch Fest, New York Comedy Festival, Bumber Shoot. She's amazing

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Speaker 2: and she's also a talented comedy writer who's worked on

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Speaker 2: shows like Broad City and Pause with Sam Jay. Recently, however,

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Speaker 2: she has begun a new venture. She started an Only

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Speaker 2: Fans and believe me, Yeah, she's gonna let it all

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Speaker 2: out her jokes. Of course, she's gonna let you hear

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Speaker 2: all of her jokes. That's what I was saying. She

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Speaker 2: Joy is in the air today and she is here

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Speaker 2: in your ears as well. Here she is Joyel Nicole Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Bubble and Squeak, I love it, Bubble and Squeak, Bubble

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Speaker 1: Cook get every more over from the night before.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Joyelle?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Brian? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm fantastic. I like being joined with another person that

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Speaker 1: has an alliterative name.

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Speaker 2: Yes, just just mumble a bunch of bees. You'll figure

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Speaker 2: it out. It'll be It'll be good. Uh are you

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Speaker 2: down in the at L I.

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Speaker 1: Am up in the buk Baby, I moved. I left Georgia,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully they will still handle it this election. So

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Speaker 1: now I'm voting in New York again.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you're out. So you grew up in Jersey,

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Speaker 2: you're now in New York. You're in the Brooklyn? Is

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Speaker 2: that the b K?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Fancy pants? Then that's all I know about Brooklyn. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's just and the fanciest building I've ever lived in.

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Speaker 1: I love it so much. I guess I'm the problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably a gentrifier. I'm living with them, but I

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Sorry you so you were in it? How long were

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Speaker 2: you in Atlanta? I'm from there, by the way, that's why.

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Speaker 2: That's why of a special interest to me.

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Speaker 1: Amazing, which part.

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Speaker 2: Kind of Sandy Springs. Yeah, speaking of fancy I don't

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Speaker 2: know about that. It's probably fancier not well now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I think the city extends out to where

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Speaker 2: we didn't even It was like cows and farms when

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Speaker 2: I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My parents live in Stone Mountains, so that that's where

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Speaker 1: I was born. Were you born at Stone Mountains?

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Speaker 2: I mean not literally on the mountain, but yes, that's

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Speaker 1: They deliver babies on top of the mountains.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a light show they do, right, the

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Speaker 2: con themed light show on the face of Stone Mountains. Yes,

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Speaker 2: good old do they they do? They still do it.

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Speaker 2: They don't still do it, do they? They do?

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Speaker 1: So still do it. They still have Confederate flags flying

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Speaker 2: so Stone Mountain is the largest piece of granite, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the largest piece of granite, which is therefore a mountain.

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Speaker 2: It's not like the Rockies, but it's a mountain.

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Speaker 1: It is a mountain. I climbed it many times.

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Speaker 2: Me me as well when I was a kid and

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Speaker 2: Dakota what's that called again? The thing Everest? No, not

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Speaker 2: mount Everest. No, where the where the President, they're in

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Speaker 2: there is a carving. Is it Confederate? Is that what

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Speaker 1: Don't get me to lie, but I was always under

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Speaker 1: the impression it was Confederate soldiers. Let's get a fact

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we we're gonna fact check this and

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Speaker 2: if I'm not. But but the point is this, there's

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Speaker 2: a light show like every night in the summer, and

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Speaker 2: They still do this, right, they still do the laser

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Speaker 2: the mountain comes to life. Yes, and they guiding. They

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Speaker 2: the horses start galloping away. Wow, they haven't thought about

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Speaker 2: that in a long time. Yes I have, nor have

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Speaker 2: I been there in a long time. But yes, I

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Speaker 2: enough about the Confederacy.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing like starting off a conversation and with the Confederacy,

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Speaker 2: what part of Jersey are you from.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Union, New Jersey girl. I went to Union

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not far from New York City, not at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty minutes, baby. That's why I was always looking

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Speaker 2: I can't really was that a dream for you? Early on?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? I was going to New York. My mother would

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Speaker 1: and it was that was what Hell's Kitchen was, not

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Speaker 1: the fabulous gay bastion of wealth it is now. That's

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Speaker 1: when it was like before Rudy Giuliati, it just all

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Speaker 2: And you wanted to do it that bad.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is thirteen. So when did you kind of

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Speaker 1: I think before then I was always looking to My

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Speaker 2: She was a nurse, right, did she have a creative side.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she was always obsessed with like the piano. She

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Speaker 2: like that that influence? I mean, you had an idea,

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Speaker 1: I just love. I mean, a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: and they all look like they're having a good time.

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Speaker 1: That was my kid brain, right. I didn't think about

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean that's a whole other thing. I

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Speaker 2: the energy and the people again, just like everybody being out.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing when it it was like the first

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Speaker 2: nice day of the spring and everybody came out. Everybody

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Speaker 2: that's too much, Come on, everybody go back.

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Speaker 1: It's like going to Coney Island on Memorial Day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't do this. Yeah no, But it's

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Speaker 2: just the streets. It's just like third and twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: There's one thousand people outside. It's like like because people

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Speaker 2: like where, Why don't you have to be somewhere?

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Speaker 1: That's every time I see a kid out and I

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Speaker 2: And if you're not, as you should be in camp

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Speaker 1: We should be somewhere. Why do you walk in the streets.

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Speaker 2: I read that you moved to LA with your sister.

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Speaker 2: She was in a writing program at USC. Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, to the writing program there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how old were you then when you when

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Speaker 1: I graduated from Boston College. Okay, and it was the

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Speaker 2: So you just wanted to be in LA or was

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Speaker 2: it because she was there?

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Speaker 1: I think it's because she was there. It was also

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Speaker 1: because of acting, like having the bug and wanting to

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Speaker 1: just go see what could happen out there?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: When did you start doing stand up?

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Speaker 1: I started in two thousand and seven?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you know I'm not good at math, So

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Speaker 2: how so when is this like? In? Is this after?

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Speaker 2: This is after college?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah? I graduated two thousand and three and moved

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Speaker 2: So you were just trying to be an actor, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And you know, back then it was just like a

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Speaker 1: And I also would do PA work too, So I

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Speaker 2: So are you aud So you're auditioning, You're you're you're auditioning,

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Speaker 2: So what do you what do you? What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, things have certainly changed for you now the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: I just fell in love with you, Brian, because I

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Speaker 1: Also, the funny thing about fame is kind of like

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Speaker 2: the m bar is that are they still doing? Yeah?

438
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Speaker 2: Are they still doing stand up stuff there?

439
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Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't been in comedy in LA for

440
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: so long.

441
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so this this was not It's not a comedy club.

442
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: It's a it's a bar, and they used to do

443
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: like an open mic situation, and I went and these

444
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: this was this was sort of it. This was an

445
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: open mic, not like you had to pay five dollars

446
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: to get in. This was an open mic. Like in general,

447
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: established comedians would be trying out new material, right, So

448
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: like I went one night and Sarah Silverman was and

449
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: this is a long time ago, so they weren't like

450
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: who they are now. But David Cross there were a

451
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: number of people showing up and I saw this young

452
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: comedian behind a piano, Robinson, get up on stage move

453
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: you know, there's a whatever seven to twelve minute break

454
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: while he puts his piano, sets all this stuff. I'm like,

455
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: what the what the hell is this guy doing? And

456
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it was the funniest twelve minutes I've

457
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: I had ever seen, and like blew everybody like beyond

458
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: out of the water. And that was my That was

459
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: my sort of my first experience with seeing you know,

460
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: seeing a bunch of like established people and they were

461
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: trying stuff so that let's be fair, and this young

462
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: guy comes up and just crushes it. Do you have

463
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: an experience or a memory from your own life where

464
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: there was a night that everything hit for you and

465
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 2: it just like Boom went went nuts.

466
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yes, so many. But also Craig. I absolutely love

467
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: Craig And have you met his brother Chris? Yes, as well,

468
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: you know the Nasty Delicious and Chris, Chris and I

469
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: hang out a bunch like that's one of my that's

470
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: one of my best ties. And it's funny because it's

471
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: like Chris is like I would say seventy percent music

472
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: and thirty percent comedy, right, and Craig, I feel like,

473
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: is the seventy percent comedy? You know? Thirty percent maybe

474
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: forty five fifty percent music? By the way, I mean

475
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: absolute geniuses.

476
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Both of them.

477
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, what was going on in your mother's UTERUSM?

478
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: But that's a question you're not supposed to ask.

479
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I think you're supposed to ask that.

480
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: But I think the first time I really felt it

481
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: because Chocolate Sundays would have an amateur night right before

482
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: the main show started and I would watch this. They

483
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: gave us three minutes and so that was the show.

484
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: I kept going to this see because I was like,

485
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: I want to do the sandmatetur Knight. I want to

486
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: do the Samature Knight. First time I ever got on stage,

487
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: I bombed my ass off. But I was working up

488
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: to do this amateur night and the first time I

489
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: did it, I crushed, and I was so freaking proud

490
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: of myself because I was so scared, right, but finally

491
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: getting the last in that room. And also, to make

492
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, black people laugh is you know, a feat

493
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: in itself. So to get that, especially also in Hollywood, Hollywood.

494
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: Shows not funny, not funny, Nope.

495
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: No, because they're all like I could be on the

496
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: stage too, bitch. So so to make like a Hollywood

497
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: black crowd laugh just felt so freaking good. And that

498
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: was probably my first year. So I had been doing

499
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: all those open mics and working up to doing that

500
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: amateur night and did a good job. So I was like, Okay,

501
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: I can't quit. I have to keep going.

502
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: What's your what's your process for writing a joke? Like

503
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: how do you how do you get it from roaches

504
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: to like a fully fleshed out idea.

505
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm more confident in myself after doing it

506
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: for so long that I know it's going to be funny.

507
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: So one of the best pieces of advice I got

508
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: when I first started was that if I'm having a

509
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody and they laugh, that's a potential for

510
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: a joke. So I can tell now if I'm like,

511
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe what happened to me yesterday and

512
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: the person starts laughing, I can also bring that on stage.

513
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: So that's what I've done with Like a lot of

514
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: the stories I tell really happened to me, you know,

515
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: true things that actually happened. But now I can just

516
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: know how to make it funny. And my joke writing

517
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: process now is very much like talking to myself. I

518
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: love talking to myself in the shower. I'll be talking

519
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: to myself, you know, walking down the street New York.

520
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: Best place to talk to yourself openly in the streets

521
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: and nobody will blak it. And you know, so that

522
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: way because I can feel like the rhythm of what

523
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: it's going to be like on stage. And so I'll

524
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: talk into my voice recorder or I'll talk in so

525
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: it's like now I know where to tell the story

526
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: because I'm a storyteller. Now I've picked that up. I'm

527
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: not I'm not what's the thing about roaches that's not

528
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: my my vibe.

529
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, when you have a story that's happened

530
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: to you and I don't know, I mean, I'm I'm

531
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: thinking about like I don't know, for me, maybe the

532
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: best in the business right now. Oh, I'm about to

533
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: say a name, and you're gonna be like, I hate them.

534
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: But Chappelle, I think about his stories, right, and then

535
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: you there gets to a point when you you know

536
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: that what he's saying is didn't actually happen, right, So

537
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: for you, how do you take a story that happened

538
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: to you and decide or figure out like, because obviously

539
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: things will be exaggerated, things will be manufactured for comedic effect,

540
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Like for you, how do you figure out, like, I

541
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: don't know, like what percentage that's That's a dumb that's

542
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: like such a dumb question. But I mean, like, for you,

543
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: how much of it is real and how much of

544
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: it is it is invented on top of something funny

545
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: that happened.

546
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: I am a proponent for truth in comedy. So it's

547
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: like I was told, comedy is truth plus exaggeration. So

548
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: for me, seventy seventy five percent true, okay, twenty five

549
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: percent exaggeration and the exaggeration is going to be on

550
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: like the third beat. So you know, it's like comedy

551
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: has the rule of three, and I'll say the truth

552
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: is the one funny thing, second truth, and then the

553
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: third truth is an exaggeration that is like, Okay, that's

554
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: just silly, but you can take it there at the end.

555
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: But I want everything to be as truthful as possible.

556
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: So everything that I do say on stage did happen

557
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: to me. But there might be one little beat at

558
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: the end that you're like, Okay, that was silly. But

559
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: I also I'm just not a silly I'm not a

560
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: silly billy. Yeah, I can't be silly billies. But I'm

561
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: too realistic. My mother grew up in the projects of Brooklyn.

562
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: I really I'm way too realistic.

563
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: Right do you do you believe in the rule of three?

564
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, in life just in general. You know it ego,

565
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: super ego. We're also you know, the Trinity, Holy Trinity,

566
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: it's all of life is the rule of three.

567
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Wow, that's very No, that's very interesting. I don't I

568
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: believe in the rule of three as well. I also

569
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: think you know, this podcast is called off the Beat

570
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: because someone taught me at a very young age that

571
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: comedy that occurs off of the expected beat is often

572
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: way more satisfying longer term than giving people exactly what

573
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: they expect. So it doesn't necessarily change the rule of three.

574
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: But finding ways to alter what people's expectations are I

575
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: think is really important and ultimately brings greater comedy. What

576
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: do you think about that?

577
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I do think there's something

578
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: musical about comedy. I did have this conversation once with Chappelle.

579
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: There's a comedian named T. K. Kirkland. He's an awesome

580
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: he's awesome, but like if you watch him, he is

581
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: almost he's like a conductor conducting. And so Dave was

582
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: talking to me about the cadence that he uses. And

583
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, I have my musical background. I was in

584
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: the marching band.

585
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: All that stuff.

586
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: So when you have a certain cadence on stage, people

587
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: are going to laugh at a point, maybe when you

588
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: didn't even say something funny, but they're used to like

589
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da laugh

590
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: da da da da da da da da da laugh.

591
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: That can be broken up into different times sing, which

592
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: is just like music. So it's like three four four

593
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: four whatever you're doing. So, yes, it's not always gonna

594
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: be on three, But yes, I agree with you that

595
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily always gonna be on the third beat.

596
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: It might be on the second beat. That's the funniest

597
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: thing because I like to say something after a joke

598
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: that'll be like for the comics.

599
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Right, is there anything you don't that's off limits for you?

600
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: Not for me, because I like for me, I just

601
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: certain things. If somebody tells tells somebody that something is

602
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: hurting them, hurting a community, you know. I do think

603
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: Dave is an example of this right now with the

604
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: trans community. Like, if somebody's saying they're being hurt, I

605
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: would stop, right, you know, I would just be like,

606
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to go into that. You know.

607
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I have a bit. I talk about abortion on stage

608
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: a lot, and my abortion joke is that I got

609
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: pregnant on the floor of an Amtrak train in the

610
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: handicap restroom, which is a true story, like fully true.

611
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: But somebody from the disabled community came up to me

612
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: and she was like, can you please not say that?

613
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: Can you say something else? Can you say accessible restroom?

614
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: Can you not say handicap? And I was like, huh,

615
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: I never thought about it in that way, And sure

616
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: I can do that. I can change it. I mean

617
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: accessible is a lot of syllables and weird syllables that

618
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: I need to practice accessible. But you know, if somebody

619
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: just came up to me, it was just like, look,

620
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: that's not that that made me feel a certain type

621
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: of way. I want to I want to change it.

622
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I heard it was a conversation. We don't

623
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: have to debate whether you're a fan of his or not,

624
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: but I thought that the conversation was very interesting. It

625
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: was with Bill Burr, and the conversation was about Blue

626
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: Comics and the question and it was actually Dan Patrick.

627
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know who Dan Patrick is.

628
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: He deals a lot in sports. But the question for

629
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: Bill was, you know, how do you figure out or

630
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: where do you sort of you know, stand on Blue

631
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: And Bill's response was people used to think like that

632
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: was bad words, Like I say bad words a lot.

633
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: That makes me a Blue comic, and some people think

634
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: that's cheating. Some people think you have to keep it

635
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: very clean. But he said the problem with that is

636
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: now there are topics that you can get into that

637
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: are also considered blue, whether or not you're saying bad

638
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: words or not. So like the idea of like controversy

639
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: equalling like blue equalling like you you can't say that,

640
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: you shouldn't say that. I guess that's my question to you,

641
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: just because just because I'm interested, like for you, where

642
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: do you stand on that or how do you who

643
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: are you creating your act for? And how willing are

644
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: you to go blue whatever that means to you.

645
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about it that way. So there's

646
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: a city in this country right now that is a

647
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: bastion for like white boys that want to say the

648
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: end word and kind of like a level of I mean,

649
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: I would definitely say misogyny. I heard a lot of

650
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: gentlemen on stage talking about punching women in the face.

651
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: These are stand ups you're talking about, Yes.

652
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's it's a weird situation where I never

653
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: thought about that as blue, and that is blue to me,

654
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Like I I have heard white boys do funny in

655
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: word jokes. Neil Brennett actually has a pretty good one,

656
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: but to pursue it, to me, it just it's just

657
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: like why why do you have to pursue that? So

658
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: for me, and that's why I talk about stuff that

659
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: actually has happened to me. So if you're telling a

660
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: story about something that happened to you, sure, But if

661
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: you're just trying to find a way to make the

662
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: in word funny and to be able to say it

663
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: on stage, I don't really I don't really have respect

664
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: for it personally. So that's why I try to stay

665
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: as true to myself as possible, because you know, I

666
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: did get pregnant on the floor in the handicap restroom,

667
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: so it's like that actually happened to me. But if

668
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: you want me to rephrase my words, I'll do that,

669
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, But I'm not going to stop telling the bit.

670
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Because that's truth and being as.

671
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely it's about being. It's about being.

672
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: That makes a ton of sense to me.

673
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, Like those are the people that I

674
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: look up to and love their comedy, where there's an

675
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: authenticity that bleeds off of the stage. You know, I

676
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: can tell when people are lying on stage. I can

677
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: tell when a comic is lying, like I you know,

678
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: sometimes people will lie about having kids and tell bits

679
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: about being a father, and I'm like, what do you

680
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: You don't have enough kids? And they're like it was

681
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: just for the joke. I'm like, just for the joke, say.

682
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: The head word. Oh that's amazing. Well, so you've said

683
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: you're a stand up, you're a comedian, but you don't

684
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: just write jokes for yourself. You're a you're a TV

685
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: writer also an actor. You wrote for a season of

686
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Broad City. You were in the writer's room there, Now, one,

687
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: why did you do that? And two? Did that help

688
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: you in your stand up? That experience of working on

689
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: the writer's run?

690
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we did. We did the punch up room. So

691
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: the punch up room was after they had written all

692
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: the scripts and they gave the scripts to a bunch

693
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: of comedians and then we did a room of punching.

694
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Up the scripture.

695
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: And I think I got spoiled in that situation because

696
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: that room was led by two women who let everybody talk.

697
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: It was. It was a very beautiful situation. And I

698
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: just think keeping your brain going, it's kind of like

699
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: doing sudoko. How you say that word sudoku sudo, It's

700
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: like doing those puzzles to offset dementia, Like you gotta

701
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: keep your brain move in different directions. So, yeah, looking

702
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: on the paper and figuring out how you would make

703
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: that joke funnier, which is why I can't watch TV

704
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: anymore because it's ruined now where I'll be like, oh,

705
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: that would have been funny if they said this, like

706
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm an asshole. So I absolutely it totally helped me

707
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: also be more confident in myself and what I think

708
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: is funny when you have to pitch it out to

709
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: a room that's scary.

710
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's kind of that's kind of the genesis

711
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: of my of my question. Like, so, now you're in

712
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: a room with a bunch of other writers slash comedians,

713
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: and this is not you, you know, talking to yourself

714
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: on the street or in the shower or in your

715
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: apartment or whatever. You're now like, hey, guys, what do

716
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: you think of this?

717
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Terrifying, terrified.

718
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: It's got that silence. It's got to be worse.

719
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's crazy because like every situation, there's

720
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: always got to be something that's gonna make you more nervous.

721
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: That's what I realized. It is never going to stop.

722
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I was with the fantastic George Wallace, that's my uncle.

723
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: He takes me out with him. He took me to

724
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: mask the Square Garden, with him, and right before he

725
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: got on stage, he was like, I'm nervous and I

726
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: was like, you're nervous and he's like, yeah, I have

727
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: you been on stage like a week and a half.

728
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, so it never ends, and he

729
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: was like, no, it never ends. It's never going to end.

730
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you Purgatory for the rest of

731
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: my life. So that's a different type of scary of

732
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: saying a joke in front of a room full of

733
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: comedians who are just staring at you and giving honest

734
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: reactions because if nobody last, they're like, next do you?

735
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: So you get nervous.

736
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Oh my gosh, absolutely every time. Well it

737
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: depends now, so it'll be bigger. Like when I first

738
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: did seth Myers was my first late night set that

739
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: I felt like I was jumping out of an airplane really,

740
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: But by the time I did my second tonight show,

741
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: which was my third late night set, I was much

742
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: more calm because you know, I had done it twice before,

743
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: so it's like I've done the Beacon theater. My second

744
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: time doing the Beacon was not as nerve racking as

745
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: my first time, So it'll just be you know, things

746
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: just keep getting bigger and grazier.

747
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: Right, I don't even know if for me it's nerves

748
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: I get, I get amped. There's like another switch. I

749
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: don't it's hard to describe.

750
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to change it to. I'm trying

751
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: to be like I'm excited instead of I'm nerving.

752
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get very externally still and calm and then

753
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: but like like inside it's like ooh, there's the switch,

754
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Like I can feel that. It's weird.

755
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: It's an example of that for you now, Like what's something.

756
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: That well, I do shows. I mean I don't do

757
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it stand up, but I do shows

758
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: at colleges and I appear on stage. It's it's weird

759
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: because I I came from the theater, right, So that's

760
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: what I used to do, and that like yeah, of

761
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: course there was like nerves and you know that like

762
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: oh I have to pee. Thing that goes mysteriously goes

763
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: away the second like you enter the curtain, it just

764
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: goes away. And it's weird. Now like I don't have

765
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: any nerves, Like I don't get nerves. I'm not, like

766
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: but I I do have that like kind of have

767
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: to pee like like I like that happens. So there's

768
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: something in there. That's why I say it's a switch, like,

769
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: it's not nothing. It's not like I'm playing part cheesy

770
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know why why. I don't

771
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: even know what parcheesy is, but that was what I know.

772
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: That word.

773
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: I don't know how the game, right, it's a game. Yeah,

774
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm not playing parcheesy. I don't know. That must have

775
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: been like in my dream last night or something.

776
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Sitting there waiting to come out.

777
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: More recently, you wrote you appeared on Pause with Sam Jay.

778
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: How'd you get involved there?

779
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they hired me for that show. I've known Sam

780
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Jay for a very long time, like over a decade

781
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: of pursuing this stand up comics. So there were a

782
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: lot of friends in that room that thought I would

783
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: have some fabulous things to contribute.

784
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: Do you prefer I mean, you prefer to be yourself? Right?

785
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you still meaning as opposed to

786
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: playing a character? Like what does that give you? I mean,

787
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess they just put words in your mouth. But

788
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm going back to what you said, like that you're

789
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: a stand up you're a comedian, right, and so you

790
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 2: are playing a version of yourself when you're on stage.

791
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

792
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even if you're authentic and real, you're

793
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: still playing a version.

794
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Now I have a question for you. So, I think

795
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: most actors are playing versions of themselves.

796
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Have you seen my work?

797
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: But listen, I think there's like ten actors. I think

798
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: there's like ten actors, and everybody else is playing a

799
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: version of themselves that is fitting into a situation. So

800
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I think, no matter what character I am going to play,

801
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a version of myself until I

802
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: study enough of the craft to actually do some mal

803
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: streep shit, god to do some you know, William H.

804
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Macy shit.

805
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, So you consider it a

806
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: version of yourself, regardless even if someone else has written

807
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: the words, even if it's a different name. I got it.

808
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, just being honestly authentic. And how would I

809
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: respond in this situation and it's like, hello, happy birthday.

810
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna did you do that to me? I don't know.

811
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: I didn't do that to you. I'm old, I don't

812
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: know how to work technology.

813
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: Oh you just said wait, hold on, you just said

814
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: happy birthday?

815
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: Did I say happy birthday? Someone said happy Birthday. I

816
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: think you had to have sat happy birthday and balloon.

817
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: If you're listening, literally we're looking at each other and

818
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: balloons just started streaming on my face.

819
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: That is so bizarre. That is literally never happening the tape.

820
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: It's not interesting to anybody else, but that was so weird.

821
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Do you like acting?

822
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Love? Love? That was my first love? No?

823
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: I know that, yeah, but I was just like, Oh,

824
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: are you just over it now?

825
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I haven't done enough of it yet. I mean,

826
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: I've done stage. I did an off Broadway play last year,

827
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean television acting. I just I

828
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: want to be one of those lucky people like you

829
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: who got a dove ass character and was able you know,

830
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: to ride that beat.

831
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. No, it is a lot of fun,

832
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: and for me, that's yeah. For me, it is about

833
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: creating that other character. That's the thing that I love about. Yeah.

834
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: I saw that you're on Only Fans ew uh, not

835
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: exactly like you might think. You're doing stand up on

836
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: their comedy show l m aof How did it go?

837
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: I think it went great. I was at home, I

838
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: was at the gutter Bar in Brooklyn, which is a

839
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: place that I perform at often, and I just had

840
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: a fun time. And that was one of those things

841
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't nervous, I was excited for because they were

842
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: just like, we're trying to open up the platform, two

843
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: different things. So I was like, sure, I'll join.

844
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: So this is a new this is a new experiment

845
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: for them, going going in, going in and doing comedy.

846
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: And so how long is it my set? Yeah?

847
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: Ten minutes?

848
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: Okay, and you crushed? And do you think this is

849
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: something that they're going to continue to explore and do.

850
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: It's looking like they are. I mean, they're trying to

851
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: get people to have like a you know, the content

852
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: where you come there for that, you know. And of

853
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: course sure do I have people in my dms saying

854
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: some things, Yes, I do, Oh you do do, but

855
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: they tip as long as your tipping, baby, let's do this.

856
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, they it's it's been funny. It's been fun

857
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: for me to try to get on this new platform

858
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: and start making money. I mean.

859
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: Money, that's no, that's awesome. You know what I have found.

860
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: I'm going off the rails here slightly, but I want

861
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: to hear your opinion. Are you on all Are you

862
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: on all social media's?

863
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram and Facebook and I guess formerly x.

864
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: Which Okay, it's going to be over soon. Yeah, that's

865
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: kind of done. Okay, that's it. Well, let me tell

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Speaker 2: you this. I just, and I mean just, I'm always

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Speaker 2: very late to the game. I just joined TikTok Now,

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Speaker 2: let me just say this, so you so you just

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Speaker 2: are now having a new experience. They're on the only fans,

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Speaker 2: do you know what? It's crazy? Someone someone I worked with.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give a shout out to someone I

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Speaker 2: worked with without saying their name. They told me like

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Speaker 2: five years ago to go on OnlyFans and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I can't. There's no chance. There's no chance. Like they

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Speaker 2: I think that they saw the potential here in terms

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Speaker 2: of what you're doing way early. So that's just I

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Speaker 2: don't know, that's just fascinating to me. Here's what I

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Speaker 2: was going to say, because you talked about the comments.

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Speaker 2: Comments on social media are so dramatically different from platform

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Speaker 2: to platform, And what's weird is you know that it's

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Speaker 2: the same people that are on those platforms, but you

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Speaker 2: talk about playing a character. The tenor and tone and

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Speaker 2: content of their comments are so different on the different platforms.

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Speaker 2: I you know, like I'll roll my eyes at comments

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Speaker 2: on something I got on TikTok and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I got I can't read I can't read these.

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Speaker 1: Like what, like, we shouldn't you shouldn't read them.

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Speaker 2: No, it's hard not to.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like the sadomascism scratching it it. I

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Speaker 1: try not to, but it's almost impossible not to.

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Speaker 2: Uh, what what do you have coming up next?

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Speaker 1: What do I have coming up next? Oh? So this summer,

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Speaker 1: I am literally I'm taking an acting class. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking dance classes. Yes, yes, I have a dance class tonight.

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Speaker 1: So I am really going to be studying this summer

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Speaker 1: because I had a crazy first half of the year

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Speaker 1: where I was traveling all over the country and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: let me stay put for a couple of months and

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Speaker 1: just be in the city. But yeah, I'm also doing

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Speaker 1: stand up. I'll be doing stand up all summer at

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Speaker 1: the Comedy Seller.

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Speaker 2: At the Comedy Seller, Sellar. Congratulations, you're very, very funny.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to your next appearance on Only Fans,

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Speaker 2: And I mean that in the purest way possible. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad that you're exploring that platform because I think there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of potential for people and a way to

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Speaker 2: one connect with fans and two to be able to

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Speaker 2: I mean, for you try out new material and be

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Speaker 2: able to control that in a way. I think that's

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Speaker 2: really super awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. I appreciate that. It's lovely to meet you.

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Speaker 2: Very nice to meet you. Thank you so much, Joyelle.

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Speaker 2: I uh yeah, I'll be watching all right.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Joyelle, Thank you so much. You know what,

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Speaker 2: it was a joy to have you. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: more joy and another episode of this fine podcast. Until then, everybody,

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Speaker 2: have a great week off. The Beat is hosted and

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Speaker 2: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer

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Speaker 2: are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris and Emily Carr. Our talent

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