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Speaker 1: here at one Jets Drive, now joined by one of
Speaker 1: the directors of Flight twenty three Ascension, Seth Bradley. Seth,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming up here. I want to
Speaker 1: take people behind the scenes. That was one of the
Speaker 1: things I was thinking about, is you went through this
Speaker 1: entire process throughout the offseason to get Ascension off the
Speaker 1: ground literally figuratively. What was Thursday night like for you
Speaker 1: as far as when that starts streaming at eight pm?
Speaker 1: Are you watching it because you spent countless hours going
Speaker 1: through this process to get it ready. At like at
Speaker 1: eight o'clock when everybody else is taking in for the
Speaker 1: first time, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: First of all, thanks for having me on here. I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. It's you know, Thursday night at eight pm.
Speaker 2: I would say, you want to take a breath and
Speaker 2: just kind of enjoy the reaction everyone's going to have
Speaker 2: to the episode. But I think from our cru standpoint,
Speaker 2: which you know, we put so many hours into it,
Speaker 2: we watch it so many times, I think, by you know,
Speaker 2: eight pm on Thursday, we just want to let the
Speaker 2: fans enjoy it. You know, I probably won't watch it
Speaker 2: till maybe like a day or two later. I caught
Speaker 2: the episode actually on sn HY on Saturday. But the
Speaker 2: reality is like, by the time it comes out, you're
Speaker 2: just hoping there's not a mistake in it or something,
Speaker 2: because you want the episode to be absolutely perfect, and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, you just want to kind of
Speaker 2: enjoy seeing that reaction for the fans, which that's the
Speaker 2: best part for us.
Speaker 1: What have you thought of the reaction from the fans
Speaker 1: to date?
Speaker 2: It's been awesome, you know. I think the whole thing
Speaker 2: with you know, acquiring Aaron Rodgers and everything, you know,
Speaker 2: I think throughout the off season it was just one
Speaker 2: of those things where you didn't really ever feel like
Speaker 2: it was really gonna happen or it was real, and
Speaker 2: you kind of, you know, the Pat McAfee show happens,
Speaker 2: and there's so many different moments throughout the offseason. You know,
Speaker 2: we just really wanted to kind of capture that and
Speaker 2: tell that story in a way that you know, hopefully
Speaker 2: obviously the season is going to go the way everybody
Speaker 2: wants it here, but I think, you know, twenty to
Speaker 2: thirty years down the road. I would love for a
Speaker 2: fan to be able to turn that on and say, like,
Speaker 2: this is the story of you know, the Jets acquiring
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback, and you know, I think
Speaker 2: to see such positive reaction, I'm just I'm really happy
Speaker 2: for our crew because I think, you know, the the
Speaker 2: reality is, it's not the most glamorous process to get
Speaker 2: to eight pm on Thursday. You work so many hours,
Speaker 2: you know, you're really working when nobody's watching, you know,
Speaker 2: to get this done. And I think, you know, our
Speaker 2: crew does such a great job of just putting their
Speaker 2: head down and you know, putting so much passion and
Speaker 2: and effort into this that you know, I think it's
Speaker 2: just it's very rewarding for us to see. And I'm
Speaker 2: just glad the fans had such a positive reaction to it.
Speaker 1: How much footage did you have to collect? And then also,
Speaker 1: can you talk about the challenges of bringing that down
Speaker 1: to forty six minutes and change? And then you mentioned
Speaker 1: the S and Y airing. The other thing you have
Speaker 1: to do is not just the forty six minutes and change,
Speaker 1: is that you have to make it into a TV
Speaker 1: show window. So if you're watching an S N Y
Speaker 1: or CBS, you're more than nineteen fifty five range.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, one of our editors, Bobby Doherty's, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the best in the business. He's the one
Speaker 2: back there cutting it up for you know, so many
Speaker 2: different platforms, and you know, he was here late on Friday,
Speaker 2: you know, after the episode got on Thursday, you know,
Speaker 2: delivering it for S and Y and CBS it runs
Speaker 2: as well. So you know, I think there's just like
Speaker 2: a lot of things people wouldn't see about, you know,
Speaker 2: how that process even goes. But you know, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's cool to see it, you know,
Speaker 2: on the broadcast platform. You know, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it's great what's happened with YouTube and you know how
Speaker 2: crazy goes. But and you turn on and you see
Speaker 2: the guy says it's going to be on sn Y
Speaker 2: and they'll run a ton and CBS as well. You know,
Speaker 2: it's really kind of cool to see it on so
Speaker 2: many different platforms. But you know, I think in terms
Speaker 2: of the hours of footage, it's it's hundreds of hours
Speaker 2: of footage that you know, we go through in the
Speaker 2: course of an offseason, you know, So I think really
Speaker 2: from the moment that you know, coach Salah and Joe
Speaker 2: Douglas and you know what, he kind of come out
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we're going to go after a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2: You know, we immediately know, like, you know, the quarterback
Speaker 2: is going to be the number one story, you know,
Speaker 2: of the entire offseason, and it's it's pretty crazy to think,
Speaker 2: you know, this story kind of became bigger than the Jets,
Speaker 2: It kind of became bigger than the NFL. I think
Speaker 2: it was one of the historically one of the biggest
Speaker 2: acquisitions in the history of sports in terms of the
Speaker 2: amount of coverage it was getting. So it's more than
Speaker 2: just you know, really like what we're shooting on a
Speaker 2: daily basis, which are guys you know, are the best cinematographers.
Speaker 2: But it's also kind of being aware of, you know,
Speaker 2: who else is talking about us, what's being said. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I've fired off
Speaker 2: a text to you know, Austin Seebot, one of our
Speaker 2: main editors and producers, or Bobby or whoever, and just
Speaker 2: said like, hey, like, you know this happened on Good
Speaker 2: Morning Football. You know, I heard this on ESPN radio
Speaker 2: and you know, you kind of like store things away
Speaker 2: and you're you're not even sure if you're really going
Speaker 2: to get to use it or not. But it's you know,
Speaker 2: I think if I walked a fan through what the
Speaker 2: show looks like in terms of our editing software and
Speaker 2: things like that, they'd be pretty amazed at the amount
Speaker 2: of stuff that's actually in there.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you. As far
Speaker 1: as using the external media, whether it's I'm like Greenberg
Speaker 1: or Peter schreg or Colin Coward or maybe somebody from
Speaker 1: esp on New York here ninety eight point seven and
Speaker 1: Dan graz how do you go about finding all those
Speaker 1: clips or listening to those clips? Like do you ever
Speaker 1: have a shut off valve? Or when you get in
Speaker 1: your car, are you turning on ESPN ninety eight seven
Speaker 1: and listen to Michael Kay much like the next morning,
Speaker 1: are you watching Kellerman, Jay Will and Keishawn to see
Speaker 1: if they have anything to say, because, like you just said,
Speaker 1: everybody who's talking about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets from
Speaker 1: the jump this offseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely kind of a needle in a haystack thing.
Speaker 2: It's like I do try to shut it off sometimes
Speaker 2: and not listen to the sports radio or you know,
Speaker 2: turn on you know, get up in the morning or
Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. But the reality is like, especially in
Speaker 2: the case of this offseason, everybody was talking about the
Speaker 2: Jets every single day. So I think, you know, if
Speaker 2: we're trying to find something, I mean, for one, you know,
Speaker 2: Ira from Staten Island's going to call into ESPN Radio
Speaker 2: every single morning, so you're like, well, if we need
Speaker 2: a fan, it's gonna call in. You know, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be him, or you know, there's gonna be a ton
Speaker 2: of you know, Boomer g O ESPN Radio wherever. It's
Speaker 2: like the phone lines are are always going to be,
Speaker 2: you know, popping, So you know, I think it's just
Speaker 2: kind of having an awareness of saying like, hey, like
Speaker 2: you know I heard something that you know, potentially we
Speaker 2: could use down the road. A lot of times, it's
Speaker 2: just you know, it's a it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2: I have a pretty good memory of like saying like, hey,
Speaker 2: like somebody said this back in January, somebody said said
Speaker 2: this in February. But you also kind of had to
Speaker 2: be the one thing I didn't want to have happen
Speaker 2: with this episode was just telling the story of the
Speaker 2: day Rogers came in. I wanted to build up of Okay,
Speaker 2: like this is what happened from January, you know, to
Speaker 2: that moment and then you know, obviously the moment he arrives.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know that that's really what we
Speaker 2: were trying to do. And I think it's you know,
Speaker 2: I had a couple of people text me and say, like,
Speaker 2: you guys, really build up the suspense, like I was
Speaker 2: like reliving it again, and I know it kind of
Speaker 2: probably brings back some anxious moments for fans, but I
Speaker 2: think that was the whole idea is like, you know this,
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been a part of a
Speaker 2: moment here, and I don't know if you have either.
Speaker 2: You know, you could you can relate to maybe like
Speaker 2: the Brett Favre trade or things like that, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think having the me talk about the Jets every
Speaker 2: single day was something I've never really been a part
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the far trade was incredible or incredible because you're
Speaker 1: talking about that happening in August of two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: like the Jets were literally playing a preseason game against
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and here shows up Brett Favre in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and literally the next day they had a news
Speaker 1: conference at city Hall. Mike Bloomberg was the mayor and
Speaker 1: far received the key to the city. But just think
Speaker 1: about the timing on that is that he gets traded
Speaker 1: in August, You're opening up the season September. So the
Speaker 1: difference between that one too is the way people consume
Speaker 1: in the media. Right. It used to be radio and newspaper, newspaper,
Speaker 1: radio and television, and then cable TV was big with
Speaker 1: ESPN and Sports Center. Now everybody's consuming content different diferently,
Speaker 1: and they're taking it in at the moment. And then
Speaker 1: you also have the birth of the long form documentary
Speaker 1: that the league has always done a good job in.
Speaker 1: I think when we talk about series like Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: or Steve Sable what he's he did over the years.
Speaker 1: But you guys, historically, I think Joe Douglas said this
Speaker 1: is a historical trade for the franchise, but you just
Speaker 1: mentioned that, Hey, this is just an historical move that
Speaker 1: kind of transcends sports. That you're getting a future Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback here after eighteen years in Green Bay
Speaker 1: and then you have this merge of all these different
Speaker 1: platforms covering it at the same time, Robert Salah, you
Speaker 1: guys get into his car with him. How many people
Speaker 1: are in that kind of shoot and can you talk
Speaker 1: about setting that up and what time of day that
Speaker 1: happened and how Salah was with you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Coach style has always been great. You know,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's really been kind of cool
Speaker 2: to see the way this thing has been built the
Speaker 2: last couple of years with him and Joe. But in
Speaker 2: terms of you know, a car interview like that, we
Speaker 2: had three people in the car. We have two shooters
Speaker 2: and a producer. I'm in the back, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it's pretty much like it seems. It's it's
Speaker 2: an early morning ride to work. You know, Coach gets
Speaker 2: up early, he gets here early, so you know we're
Speaker 2: there and ready to roll. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Coach from the day walked in.
Speaker 2: He preached, you know, building this thing the right way
Speaker 2: with you know, hiring the right people on his staff,
Speaker 2: and the same with Joe, and I think we felt
Speaker 2: that from a production standpoint, you know, I think everybody's
Speaker 2: so great to work with. You know, I think you
Speaker 2: want to root for everybody here because you know, you
Speaker 2: feel it every day like it's just different, you know.
Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, as you know, like it's
Speaker 2: from the day coach walked into building when he got hired,
Speaker 2: it just everything seemed to kind of change with the
Speaker 2: way everything felt. And then obviously to now seeing you know,
Speaker 2: Aaron come in, it's like man like it's because of
Speaker 2: what they built. And I think you know, you felt
Speaker 2: that from the beginning.
Speaker 1: How do you determine as a storyteller when to use
Speaker 1: your voice or a producer's voice as far as the
Speaker 1: transition is concerned, and also when to use maybe that
Speaker 1: external media voice that helps you weave the story together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think it's a fine balance.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when you're telling a story like this,
Speaker 2: you know, you feel like, okay, like for the viewer
Speaker 2: to truly understand, you know, where this message is coming from,
Speaker 2: you might need to hear the question, or you might
Speaker 2: need to hear a reporter question in a press conference,
Speaker 2: or it's just really kind of the art of storytelling,
Speaker 2: you kind of have to you know, pick and choose,
Speaker 2: like you know, obviously, like an ideal scenario, we might
Speaker 2: not use my voice at all, you know, because we
Speaker 2: use narration, which Rich Jhson's narrator in the show. But
Speaker 2: in some cases, it just you feel like you need it.
Speaker 2: You feel like you need to and to me, like
Speaker 2: car interviews in particular, like I've always felt like there's
Speaker 2: some of the best access you can get to somebody
Speaker 2: because I think like it's just a very intimate setting
Speaker 2: to kind of hear somebody's thoughts, and you know, I
Speaker 2: think hearing Coach Salad talk about Aaron Rodgers was you know,
Speaker 2: one of the unique parts of the production process for me,
Speaker 2: because I think when you're talking about somebody with an
Speaker 2: incredible defensive mind, you know that came up through the
Speaker 2: league ranks as a defensive you know, defensive coach and
Speaker 2: then a defensive coordinator in San Francisco, I think hearing
Speaker 2: him talk about what he sees when he, you know,
Speaker 2: watches Aaron play is pretty special and I wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure there was a moment in the show where
Speaker 2: you had a chance to hear you know why, you know,
Speaker 2: what coach sala thinks about Aaron Rodgers in the way
Speaker 2: he plays a game. So I think with a you know,
Speaker 2: a producer question. Sometimes you just need to put it
Speaker 2: in there to kind of say, like this really is
Speaker 2: going to set the scene, or it's going to be
Speaker 2: a dramatic bite in the show, or but that's really
Speaker 2: how we get to that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was really cool the way he
Speaker 1: was talking about, like you, you were just mentioning that, Hey,
Speaker 1: Salah for so many years saw the game through that
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator's eyes or the defensive assistant's eyes where he's
Speaker 1: going toe to toe against Rogers. And he talked to
Speaker 1: you about the two minute, how he's always run two minutes,
Speaker 1: he's the guy calling the plays, and how much stress
Speaker 1: that he puts on a defense. Now, speaking of Rogers,
Speaker 1: so one of the things that you tweeted about recently
Speaker 1: was his presence. Yeah, what was it like for you
Speaker 1: day one when he comes in here, does the news
Speaker 1: conference and then he sits down with sits down with
Speaker 1: you guys in the fieldhouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool. You know, I think for
Speaker 2: everybody in the building that day, it was such a
Speaker 2: you know, a special day for you know, our entire
Speaker 2: staff and really the whole organization. But you know, I
Speaker 2: think for our crew in particular, it was such a
Speaker 2: you know, unique moment when he was going to sit
Speaker 2: down to do that first interview, and you know, I
Speaker 2: think Jets fans and you know, really kind of got
Speaker 2: to see will Han in terms of micing him up.
Speaker 2: You know, he's one of our great producers, and Rogers
Speaker 2: kind of says like, now, like I don't want to
Speaker 2: be miked, and and then we all kind of just
Speaker 2: take a moment and then we realize he's joking, and
Speaker 2: he says like, you know, come on back. And it
Speaker 2: was just such a cool moment. You know, we we
Speaker 2: we kind of put that in the show because it
Speaker 2: just really like it was like, man, like he's just
Speaker 2: a cool dude. You know, like we just kind of
Speaker 2: like sat down at that point we said like all right,
Speaker 2: like this is We're really doing this. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be great. But I think like it's a moment really
Speaker 2: for me and I'm sure for the rest of our crew.
Speaker 2: You're remember forever. You'll tell your kids about, you tell
Speaker 2: your grandkids about like the day, you know, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: came into building. It was such a unique thing and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's a few times in your
Speaker 2: life you'll be around somebody with a presence like that
Speaker 2: that really just you know, you just feel it, like, man,
Speaker 2: like this guy eighteen years in the NFL, you know,
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback coming to the Jets. I just
Speaker 2: it didn't even really like feel like it was real.
Speaker 2: And then we kind of like watch the episode back
Speaker 2: and then we kind of said, like, man, like, this
Speaker 2: is kind of cool to like relive all of this
Speaker 2: and have this documented this way.
Speaker 1: I liked when he told you guys that, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: when I'm in, I'm all in. So if I'm going
Speaker 1: to do something, it's like f Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1: was the phrase that he used. So you got that
Speaker 1: sense on day one when he was speaking to you
Speaker 1: guys or when he was down there in the auditorium
Speaker 1: that he was genuinely exited to be here. This was
Speaker 1: your first time meeting him. Yeah, how would you describe him?
Speaker 2: Man, It like blew away any expectation I think I
Speaker 2: even had, Like I guess, like you don't really know
Speaker 2: really what to expect from somebody you know coming in
Speaker 2: the building, you know, for the first time, and with
Speaker 2: the pedigree of you know, someone like that. But I
Speaker 2: think when you heard the conviction in his voice of
Speaker 2: you know, wanting to play for the Jets and you know,
Speaker 2: wanting to be here and you know, wanting to bring
Speaker 2: another you know, super Bowl championship to the Jets. It's
Speaker 2: just it's one of those things where I think, you know,
Speaker 2: all fans really kind of just said like, wow, like
Speaker 2: this is really like happening. And you know, I think
Speaker 2: you got the sense when he was on Pat mcafeel like,
Speaker 2: man like, he's all in on the Jets. But I
Speaker 2: think you saw it that first day like man like,
Speaker 2: this is really why, like he always truly wanted to
Speaker 2: be a Jet, you know. And I think, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's such a cool thing, and it's such a
Speaker 2: testament to Joe and Robert and everything they've kind of
Speaker 2: build up that you know, he's coming in day one
Speaker 2: and saying like, you know, this is what we're going
Speaker 2: to do. And I think I think fans really felt
Speaker 2: that during the press conference too. I think it was
Speaker 2: such a it was just such a unique day, you know.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's a day I always remember and
Speaker 2: I'm sure you know everybody in the organization will.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the genesis of adding a lot
Speaker 1: of fans generated content in there, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there now who are running their own
Speaker 1: media sites per se, especially over social media. And with
Speaker 1: that being said, not only that, but can you talk
Speaker 1: about the genesis at Diehards. Yeah, because you're bringing I
Speaker 1: think fans closer to the organization now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, Jets fans in particular, it's
Speaker 2: like I've never been around a group quite like them.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think is the is the off
Speaker 2: season kind of went on. I think we kind of
Speaker 2: knew with the Jets going after a quarterback, it was
Speaker 2: going to be a very unique offseason for the fans.
Speaker 2: You know. I think in a normal off season, there's
Speaker 2: so much hype around the team and you know, Jets
Speaker 2: Twitter and you know, our fans are just always at
Speaker 2: a fever pitch, you know, they always have so much optimism,
Speaker 2: and I think when we hit the off season, it
Speaker 2: was like, man, like, there's a real unique opportunity here
Speaker 2: to show some of this story through the eyes of
Speaker 2: a fan. And I think this Aaron Rodgers you know,
Speaker 2: pursuit is kind of embodies what this fan base is
Speaker 2: all about. It was kind of cool to see, you know,
Speaker 2: different pinpoints of the offseason where they really kind of
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the Pat McAfee interview and you know,
Speaker 2: different parts where you know, the Jets flying out to
Speaker 2: California as a day I'll never forget in terms of
Speaker 2: like the excitement and the build up to everything that
Speaker 2: was going on because at that point in time, like
Speaker 2: no one really knew what was happening, and it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: the Jets are going to fly out there, and it
Speaker 2: sends Twitter into a frenzy. So I think with you know,
Speaker 2: Flight twenty three, you know, we did the We've done
Speaker 2: a couple episodes of the Dieards, and that series will
Speaker 2: continue into the season. We'll have an opportunity to showcase
Speaker 2: like a lot of unique fan personalities. But I think
Speaker 2: in in Flight twenty three, you know, we kind of
Speaker 2: made the call like hey, like, you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of this is still about the fans. You know, this
Speaker 2: is like such an exciting, exciting time and we kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to give them their moment where it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: like the day that you know, the trade broke the news,
Speaker 2: I'll never forget where I was in that moment. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you'll never forget where you were. It was like
Speaker 2: it was one of those things where you want to
Speaker 2: kind of capture like what that actual the emotion of
Speaker 2: that moment, And I think that's why we wanted to
Speaker 2: kind of showcase some of those fans.
Speaker 1: Is it cool for you to not only feature the fans,
Speaker 1: but feature some people within the organization. Like what I
Speaker 1: liked about this recent episode, among many things, was you
Speaker 1: talk into the ticketing and apartment kind of given like
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes look how this all has impacted them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you know, as you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: you know, this organization, regardless of how the team has
Speaker 2: been performing over the years, there's a ton of people
Speaker 2: that put everything they have into this organization every single day.
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, it's been kind of cool
Speaker 2: to see just you know, the excitement in the building.
Speaker 2: You know, with everything that's happened this offseason, you feel
Speaker 2: it in the building. You know, everything was kind of
Speaker 2: building to this trade, but it's like, you know, when
Speaker 2: you have the realization like hey, like this is really
Speaker 2: gonna happen, there's just so much excitement around it and
Speaker 2: it affects everybody in here. So, you know, I think
Speaker 2: we really wanted to just kind of capture, you know,
Speaker 2: what it's like for somebody working in here, because it,
Speaker 2: you know, is it's a great day for not just
Speaker 2: the fans, it's a great day for you know, the team.
Speaker 2: It's a great day for everybody working here as well. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we really just kind of wanted to shed
Speaker 2: some light on you know how it kind of you know,
Speaker 2: it can affect not just you know, the team and
Speaker 2: the players and the coaching staff, it can affect like
Speaker 2: really everybody and the excitement around it. So it was
Speaker 2: really cool to feature Fitsie and his crew and you know,
Speaker 2: all the hard work.
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Speaker 1: Let's preview episode two. What is happening next? Because you
Speaker 1: basically just slayed the dragon. You basically came out of
Speaker 1: the gate really hot. You just knocked out Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: What's next? Can you talk about that challenge for you
Speaker 1: and the fellas to okay, maybe not match the excitement
Speaker 1: level of Rogers Rod because that's frankly that's impossible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but can you talk about how you still want to
Speaker 1: tell the story the offseason while continuing to hammer home
Speaker 1: that Rogers is here and he's part of OTA's but
Speaker 1: also Flight twenty three Ascension is about the totality of
Speaker 1: what's happening with the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's honestly, it's a huge challenge. I mean you
Speaker 2: just kind of summed it up. It's it's really hard
Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, take a breath and say, like, okay,
Speaker 2: like how are we gonna you know, matches or keep
Speaker 2: keep the momentum of the show going, because it is
Speaker 2: really a challenge when you think of a moment in
Speaker 2: history like that, you know, documenting it. But I do
Speaker 2: think episode two is is very unique and a fan
Speaker 2: is going to really enjoy it, you know, because it's
Speaker 2: going to focus on the draft, which I think is
Speaker 2: kind of everything was happening with you know, the Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers trade, we were still documenting in the draft meetings.
Speaker 2: We were still you know, had a bunch of cameras
Speaker 2: in the draft room on draft night. So I think,
Speaker 2: you know, fans are going to get a really cool
Speaker 2: inside look get you know, Joe and his staff and
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and and what kind of led to
Speaker 2: these selections of Will McDonald, Joe Tipman and the rest
Speaker 2: of these picks. So I think, you know, I think
Speaker 2: for like people that really love the draft and the
Speaker 2: inner workings and seeing you know, kind of like behind
Speaker 2: the curtain, I think this episode is really going to
Speaker 2: do that justice. You know. I think the the unique
Speaker 2: part about Flight is it last year, you know, it
Speaker 2: was all about the draft, you know, with how many
Speaker 2: draft picks we had in the in the big moment
Speaker 2: was episode four when you know, the Jets get three
Speaker 2: first round picks and then they ultimately get Breese and
Speaker 2: just you know, Joe working the phones and it all
Speaker 2: kind of built up to that moment. This year, it's
Speaker 2: a little bit different because of you know, the quarterback search,
Speaker 2: and we had to kind of cap you know, we
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure we hit everybody out of the
Speaker 2: gate with you know, Aaron Rodgers. But I do think,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the coolest parts about this show
Speaker 2: is seeing the conviction you know, this staff has and
Speaker 2: seeing these guys work. And I think there's some really
Speaker 2: unique moments in the draft room with Joe, you know,
Speaker 2: prior to pick fifteen and leading up to the Joe
Speaker 2: Tipman pick that I think fans are really gonna like
Speaker 2: because there's nothing quite like seeing Joe work on draft
Speaker 2: right like he's in such as he's in his element
Speaker 2: and he has such command of the room that I think,
Speaker 2: you know, it's such a cool inside look for Fantasy.
Speaker 1: So episode two, you're taking us from Thursday to Saturday.
Speaker 1: Is this entirely the twenty twenty three draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna pretty much take you through the draft
Speaker 2: in totality. You know, I think it's just going to
Speaker 2: be you know, really really unique look and we we actually,
Speaker 2: you know, one of my favorite parts about the episode
Speaker 2: is fans are going to get an inside look at
Speaker 2: you know, Kyle the kid who made you know, our
Speaker 2: first round selection. The day he did the press conference here,
Speaker 2: you know, he met a ton of the staff and
Speaker 2: he was he was in the building, and I think
Speaker 2: fans are going to get a really unique look at
Speaker 2: who he is as a person and you know, his family,
Speaker 2: and I think that's you know, gonna be It's just
Speaker 2: kind of you know, the the drama of the draft
Speaker 2: and everything like that, it really provides perspective of you know,
Speaker 2: what's you know important in life and you know, taking
Speaker 2: a moment to kind of learn who he is as
Speaker 2: a person before he made that pick, you know. And
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's kind of cool to see
Speaker 2: everything come full circle because then you see Will at
Speaker 2: his house, you know, watching Kyle make the pick, and
Speaker 2: there's there's some really cool moments in this episode. I think,
Speaker 2: I think fans will get a really unique look and
Speaker 2: you know, I think for me personally, as someone that
Speaker 2: grew up loving the draft, I mean, seeing what is
Speaker 2: said in kind of draft meetings and the build up
Speaker 2: to it is you know one of the coolest parts
Speaker 2: of the process for us. And you know, credit to
Speaker 2: Joe and his staff for kind of being comfortable with
Speaker 2: you know, cameras being in there to capture some of
Speaker 2: these cool moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and make no mistake about it. Seth Bradley as
Speaker 1: a football junkie, especially around college football, and you beloved
Speaker 1: Penn State Nitney Lions. How cool is that for you
Speaker 1: when either you or one of the guys or a
Speaker 1: few of the guys are in that room listening to Joe,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, all the scouts, all the evaluators discuss
Speaker 1: position groups and certain players. Because you know the game
Speaker 1: inside and out, but just to hear the way the
Speaker 1: process works, how much do you enjoy it? And how
Speaker 1: tough is it for you to be like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: well that was really great now, but we can't include
Speaker 1: that in there.
Speaker 2: It's definitely really cool, you know, because I think there's
Speaker 2: guys like you watch college football as just a fan
Speaker 2: and you're like, man, I love that guy or I
Speaker 2: think I think he's great, and you start to hear,
Speaker 2: like a coach maybe start to dissect like what's you know,
Speaker 2: not so great about the player or a scout you know,
Speaker 2: giving you know, their character evaluations or things like that,
Speaker 2: and you're like, man like, you know, we're not going
Speaker 2: to take that guy for sure, you know so, but
Speaker 2: but I think it's really cool. And you know, I
Speaker 2: was telling somebody this the other day. It's like the
Speaker 2: best part about this process is you feel a conviction
Speaker 2: in the room by the time they get to the
Speaker 2: draft and kind of seeing guys they like throughout the process.
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget last year. You know, we were
Speaker 2: in the meeting when they talked about Jermaine and you know,
Speaker 2: hearing Joe talk about him, and then the minute you know,
Speaker 2: it's past pick ten and we selected Garrett and you
Speaker 2: kind of see Joe start to talk to Robert and
Speaker 2: say like, hey, like we can go get Jermaine, and
Speaker 2: we we we kind of had known how much they
Speaker 2: liked him throughout the process, and it was it was
Speaker 2: one of those things from a storytelling standpoint, you're like, man, like,
Speaker 2: I hope this trade goes through. Like I'm kind of
Speaker 2: like we're nervous like capturing the moments because we're like,
Speaker 2: man like, if we somehow don't get them, like we
Speaker 2: know kind of like how we can tell this story.
Speaker 2: But it's it's just really kind of cool to see
Speaker 2: the conviction these guys have, and I think by the
Speaker 2: time you know, you get to the draft, fans might
Speaker 2: not really know like who our number one targets are
Speaker 2: and things like that. But I think you feel it
Speaker 2: in the building like okay, like this is a guy,
Speaker 2: like they really want.
Speaker 1: How important is music in what you do? Because you're
Speaker 1: just talking about Joe and the phone calls last year.
Speaker 1: You guys epically put that together. But can you talk
Speaker 1: about music and then also you're writing because is it
Speaker 1: essentially you or is other people? As far as the
Speaker 1: staffs concern the writing, because you talked about the narration
Speaker 1: with Rich Eison.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the narration part of it is something
Speaker 2: that you know, a lot of other productions won't necessarily
Speaker 2: tap into because writing for you know, documentaries is very challenging,
Speaker 2: you know. I think NFL Films does it so well
Speaker 2: with Leaf Shreiver, and you know, it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: a signature to the way Hard Knocks does it and
Speaker 2: things like that. And I think anytime you're gonna go
Speaker 2: and you're gonna you know, write scripts for you know stuff,
Speaker 2: the writing has to be good.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like I think you could you can get to
Speaker 2: a spot where if it's bad writing, it becomes very
Speaker 2: like jarring for a viewer to watch. So I think
Speaker 2: our crew does a great job. It's really you know,
Speaker 2: me and two others, Austin Siebolt Bobby Doherty. You know,
Speaker 2: we work really, you know, hand in hand to write
Speaker 2: these scripts. We kind of you know, as you're going
Speaker 2: through an episode, you kind of say like, okay, like
Speaker 2: we really need a transition line here. We can write
Speaker 2: creatively to this, we can write a monologue. You know.
Speaker 2: The the end monologue with to episode one was something
Speaker 2: that we had really kind of designed specifically for Rich Eisen.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was one of those things where we kind of said, like, hey,
Speaker 2: like Rich is a diar jets Van. We hear it
Speaker 2: every day on his radio show. Let's have a moment
Speaker 2: where he can kind of pay tribute to what this
Speaker 2: moment is like through his eyes. So I think it
Speaker 2: was it was one of those things where that had
Speaker 2: that couldn't be just anybody. It had to be Rich.
Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, that was kind of
Speaker 2: a really cool moment in the show. But our guys
Speaker 2: do a great job, you know, writing these scripts, and
Speaker 2: and to me, music is everything. Because you know, a
Speaker 2: piece of video is just is just video until it
Speaker 2: comes to life with the you know, the emotion of music.
Speaker 2: So we'll spend a lot of time finding the perfect tracks,
Speaker 2: you know, for an episode, and sometimes you might cut
Speaker 2: a scene or you might do something. You might be like,
Speaker 2: the music just doesn't feel right here, like, you know,
Speaker 2: we need to we need something it's a little more captivating,
Speaker 2: We need something it's a little bit of a different tone,
Speaker 2: you know. I think even going back to we talked
Speaker 2: about the Diehards before, it's like, you know, we use
Speaker 2: very unique music in that documentary. In particular, it had
Speaker 2: to be different because it was a different tone of
Speaker 2: you know, a show. So I think everything's very calculated
Speaker 2: with this. You know, it takes a lot of time,
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of finding the perfect music for
Speaker 2: an episode. But you know, I think at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you want to pull out the emotions
Speaker 2: of a viewer. You know, you want a viewer to
Speaker 2: have an emotional connection to a piece, and I think
Speaker 2: music is is the key to all of it.
Speaker 1: How painstaking can it be as far as setting up
Speaker 1: that perfect shot and can talk about dance Plakowski and
Speaker 1: his kind of lead as far as how meticulous and
Speaker 1: how detailed. He is a perfectionist as far as getting
Speaker 1: those shots and the perfect lighting and the perfect angle,
Speaker 1: and the way we have to switch some things up sometimes.
Speaker 1: If hey, maybe we did the interview with Joe in
Speaker 1: the field House, that means we got to take Aaron
Speaker 1: and put him in a different place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan's the most talented person I've ever worked with.
Speaker 2: You know, We've been fortunate to work together now on
Speaker 2: you know a lot of these productions, even going back
Speaker 2: to like twenty sixteen we were on the Blall Palchhote together.
Speaker 2: You were there, and you know, I think back to
Speaker 2: some of those original like documentaries we did and thinking
Speaker 2: about how far we've come production wise. You know, it's everything.
Speaker 2: Every shot is very calculated to your point, you know,
Speaker 2: it's but you also kind of have to be able
Speaker 2: to run a gun and adapt them to fly with
Speaker 2: the nature of like how fast paced sports is. So
Speaker 2: but when I think back to, you know, what we
Speaker 2: were able to do the day Aaron arrived at the
Speaker 2: facility and the different shots we were able to capture,
Speaker 2: and you know, our crew is so prepared and and
Speaker 2: that's to dance credit you know. He he's really like
Speaker 2: overhauled our you know, production process over the over the years,
Speaker 2: just to in terms of the cameras we use, in
Speaker 2: terms of the equipment we use, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: putting our cinematographers in the best possible spot. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, thinking to One Jets Drive and a fan watches,
Speaker 2: you know, one of our game scenes. You know, I
Speaker 2: think the amount of different cameras we have going in
Speaker 2: one game, the location of each it's all very thought out,
Speaker 2: it's all very planned, and I think our goal with
Speaker 2: you know, a show like One Jets Drive is to
Speaker 2: give a fan a perspective of the game that they're
Speaker 2: not going to get anywhere else. And I think you
Speaker 2: might not even realize it as you're watching it, like
Speaker 2: how many unique camera angles and stuff we actually have
Speaker 2: and players miked up and cameras behind the bench and
Speaker 2: players in the locker room. But it's there's so much
Speaker 2: that goes into that part of it, and it's just
Speaker 2: countless hours of planning and preparation. And I think but
Speaker 2: at the end of the day too, you also have
Speaker 2: to have incredible talent in the building to kind of
Speaker 2: do to pull this all off and our crew, like
Speaker 2: I said, is the best there is. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like I think, you know, if somebody looks at a
Speaker 2: production like Hard Knocks and they look at the credits
Speaker 2: at the end, they're going to see probably you know,
Speaker 2: over one hundred people in the credits, maybe more. But
Speaker 2: with our crew, it's you know, seven or eight people
Speaker 2: that are really you know, punching above their weight every
Speaker 2: single day to make this happen. And you know, you
Speaker 2: might go from one shoot to another on a moment's notice,
Speaker 2: you might only have twenty minutes to prepare for a shoot,
Speaker 2: but you know, our goal all the time is to
Speaker 2: have everyone ready for you know, whatever occurs, and to
Speaker 2: do it to the best, you know, the highest possible
Speaker 2: production quality. So you know, I think when you look
Speaker 2: at our productions over the years, they've obviously like steadily improved,
Speaker 2: and you know we've been you know, more and more
Speaker 2: prepared for everything. But I think, you know, obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: you said it to Dan's credit, like we've really to
Speaker 2: me like we want to set the standard across the
Speaker 2: league in terms of what we're doing. I think this
Speaker 2: production in particular, does that do.
Speaker 1: You think about how far you've come and how far
Speaker 1: the group has gone, like you've been to Jets since sixteen,
Speaker 1: and maybe give a backstory as far as how the
Speaker 1: long form was introduced here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a will be my ten season with
Speaker 2: the Jets coming up, and I think the first couple
Speaker 2: of years it was heavy focus on you know, short
Speaker 2: form media. Yeah, and I think you know, come like
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. You know, Chris Gargano was our executive producer
Speaker 2: at the time, and he really kind of, you know
Speaker 2: said like when you des tryed to tell the stories
Speaker 2: of who these guys are off the field and under
Speaker 2: the helmet, and you know, that's growing up. You know,
Speaker 2: my dream was to produce you know, sports documentaries. I
Speaker 2: love thirty for thirties. I love you know, ESPN films,
Speaker 2: you know, really hard knocks everything. And I think it
Speaker 2: was just, you know, one of those things where like
Speaker 2: once we kind of open that can of worms, like
Speaker 2: we're going to go down this path. It was you know,
Speaker 2: I think it really helped build the brand of the organization.
Speaker 2: You know, I was I was trying to tell somebody
Speaker 2: this the other day and they were wondering why, Like
Speaker 2: we flashed back to Joe and Roberts like first days
Speaker 2: as a jet in this past episode and things like that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, the story didn't start with Rogers.
Speaker 2: It started, you know, a couple of years ago. And
Speaker 2: I think if you go through even what One Jets
Speaker 2: Drive is, you know for the past five or six seasons,
Speaker 2: you kind of see the beginnings of the story. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the really cool part about like documentaries
Speaker 2: is it's it's not really like we won't document, we'll
Speaker 2: document the twenty three season, but it really was it's
Speaker 2: really been building to this, like the story kind of starts.
Speaker 2: If Sony went back and watched like the past two
Speaker 2: years of One Just Drive or Flight twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two, it's like you kind of see
Speaker 2: what's what's been happening here. And I think that's that's
Speaker 2: kind of the cool thing is you know, we get
Speaker 2: an opportunity to tell these stories, and you know, I
Speaker 2: really like my goal with one JD Films was to
Speaker 2: create like a thirty for thirty style umbrella here that
Speaker 2: you know allowed us to tell, you know, do more
Speaker 2: than just one Just Drive, do more than Flight, And
Speaker 2: we have some really unique stories coming out around the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame and Breese Hall's you know, Road to
Speaker 2: Recovery and things like that. So in the diards as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, So there's there's just a lot coming and
Speaker 2: you know, I think, you know, it's for me growing
Speaker 2: up a sports fan, this has been a dream for
Speaker 2: me to like be able to kind of like tell
Speaker 2: these stories and and help this organization kind of you know,
Speaker 2: build this brand.
Speaker 1: Give us a timetable on the Breeze Recovery episode, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's something new. Yeah, we haven't done that prior
Speaker 1: as far as an organization, as far as the content
Speaker 1: crew to kind of chronicle somebody's reheab process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this project is probably the one I'm most excited
Speaker 2: about that we've ever done here because I think fans
Speaker 2: are going to get a really unique look at, you know,
Speaker 2: a recovery. And it's not just it's months and months
Speaker 2: of shooting by our crew. You know. It's a credit
Speaker 2: to bree who honestly like we approached him, you know,
Speaker 2: in the season and we said kind of like, hey,
Speaker 2: would you be open to us kind of like documenting
Speaker 2: your recovery and he said yeah, and it really kind
Speaker 2: of started from there. You have to buy and from
Speaker 2: the player, but then you also have to buy and
Speaker 2: from the staff, you know, so Dave's aufalleto you know,
Speaker 2: his crew downstairs. The training staff has been all in
Speaker 2: on us kind of showing Breee coming back, and it's
Speaker 2: going to be a you know, a documentary that you know,
Speaker 2: comes out when he returns to the field, because we
Speaker 2: need to be able to tell the story fully. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think you know, fans are gonna just it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be more access than they've probably ever seen
Speaker 2: in terms of what it's like, you know, the long days.
Speaker 2: You know, a rehab session lasts you know, usually around
Speaker 2: like three hours, and our crew will be in there
Speaker 2: the entire time. You capture the struggle, you capture you know,
Speaker 2: the moments. But we're also gonna tell Breece's story, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's the cool part is it's
Speaker 2: not just gonna be the rehab. It's going to be
Speaker 2: who he is as a player. And obviously we saw,
Speaker 2: you know, how great of a player Brese you know
Speaker 2: is and can can be in the league last year,
Speaker 2: and I think everyone was so devastated when he went down.
Speaker 2: But I think seeing his road back I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be something very special for fans.
Speaker 1: All right, Really gracious with your time, because you've got
Speaker 1: to start getting after episode two. I got a couple
Speaker 1: quick ones before we get out of here. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are very interested in what you guys are
Speaker 1: doing right now, from the long form, the documentary style
Speaker 1: content and what an elite level this is produced at.
Speaker 1: And they're very interested as far as college kids or
Speaker 1: high school kids and saying, well, I want to get
Speaker 1: into that kind of industry. I want to get involved
Speaker 1: in production with ever changing content world. What kind of
Speaker 1: advice do you give people who are in college right now,
Speaker 1: and maybe can you shed some light on your background
Speaker 1: and how it helped you get to this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I graduated. I graduated from Penn Sdatey in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight and didn't really know what direction
Speaker 2: my career was going to go. Was fortunate to, you know,
Speaker 2: get hired by Guido Dliya, who you know at Penn Sades,
Speaker 2: the the white al guru. He's kind of like the
Speaker 2: marketing genius behind all of that, and he really was
Speaker 2: a mentor to me and really kind of set my
Speaker 2: career on the right path. But like once I you know,
Speaker 2: kind of started to see what direction my career would
Speaker 2: go in terms of you know, I always wanted to
Speaker 2: work in sports. I always wanted to be around football,
Speaker 2: you know. So I've you know, worked in college sports
Speaker 2: for a couple of years in the SEC and Penn
Speaker 2: State and you know, obviously, and then get a job
Speaker 2: at the Jets in twenty fourteen. You know, I think
Speaker 2: for anybody let's coming out of college and you know,
Speaker 2: looking for what's next, I think it's important to be
Speaker 2: open minded. It's important to learn as much as you can.
Speaker 2: It's important to you know, not necessarily be focused on
Speaker 2: where you're working, but what you're doing. You know. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot you know, I worked for a
Speaker 2: lot of like smaller companies you know, prior to the Jets,
Speaker 2: and I think that's an important part of it is.
Speaker 2: I think you can be like I want to work
Speaker 2: for NFL Films or I want to work for ESPN,
Speaker 2: but it you might be a you know, a small
Speaker 2: fish in a big pond there. You might not necessary
Speaker 2: be like learning all the skills you need to do it.
Speaker 2: So I always tell people, like, look at what a
Speaker 2: job description is for, you know, a position you might
Speaker 2: want five or six years down the road and start
Speaker 2: to kind of think about the skills you're learning, you know,
Speaker 2: so by the time you get to a spot where
Speaker 2: you want to apply somewhere that you can be doing
Speaker 2: that job, you have all the necessary tools to do it.
Speaker 2: You know. I think, you know, first and foremost here
Speaker 2: is like we're looking for, you know, ultimately, the most
Speaker 2: creative people that are great storytellers, because I think you
Speaker 2: know a lot of people are, you know, great editors,
Speaker 2: great shooters, But I think combining all that to be
Speaker 2: able to tell a story is what's going to be
Speaker 2: the key, you know, And I think that's that's really
Speaker 2: the biggest thing. But I my biggest piece of advice
Speaker 2: is be ready to get turned down for a lot.
Speaker 2: I got to turn down for a lot of jobs
Speaker 2: prior to you know, coming to the Jets. I can't
Speaker 2: I can probably name most of them, you know, and
Speaker 2: you know it was it was hard at the time
Speaker 2: to take. But I think every less and you learn
Speaker 2: from those is you know, ultimately you're gonna end up
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to be. And I think for me,
Speaker 2: like it's obviously it's just been a dream come true
Speaker 2: for me to be able to like work in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and you know, we we want people here, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel the same way that their dream
Speaker 2: is to be here. You know you want to you know,
Speaker 2: to me, like every day driving in here, I still
Speaker 2: feel a little a little bit like, man, like this
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. Like I get to, you know, work
Speaker 2: for the Jets and you have so many people that
Speaker 2: will like tell you, you know, wow, like that must
Speaker 2: be like the coolest job, and it, honestly is. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of long hours. Sports is hard. You work nights, weekends, holidays.
Speaker 2: But I think at the end of the day, you
Speaker 2: have to love what you do, and I think that's
Speaker 2: that's the biggest part of this. So I think anybody
Speaker 2: that wants to be in sports, like just keep climbing,
Speaker 2: you know, be ready to get turned down. But then ultimately,
Speaker 2: like just try to get your foot in the door somewhere.
Speaker 1: Your love shines through in your product favorite shoots of
Speaker 1: all time as far as away from one, Jets Drive,
Speaker 1: what's got to be up there maybe top two or three,
Speaker 1: and then your favorite episodes does Rogers are already vault
Speaker 1: to one at this point, so do shoots first and
Speaker 1: then do episodes.
Speaker 2: Spot caught me off guard with this one. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think back. I mentioned the Blall Pal
Speaker 2: shoot before. That was one of the first big documentaries
Speaker 2: we did, where it was, you know, he had an
Speaker 2: incredible backstory. He went through a lot as a kid,
Speaker 2: and I think he was one of the first to
Speaker 2: really kind of like opened up to us in terms
Speaker 2: of telling his story. And I think that's really the
Speaker 2: base of One. Jets Drive and everything else are kind
Speaker 2: of those documentaries we did before before that. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of cool for me to even look back, like
Speaker 2: we did a shoot at Josh McCown's house, which was,
Speaker 2: you know, somebody that's played for so many teams and
Speaker 2: you know, things like that and had this crazy career.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Dance mccowsi has a picture of
Speaker 2: me holding all of his jerseys as a part of
Speaker 2: the production. But it's Josh came up to us after
Speaker 2: that came out. I said, I can't tell you how
Speaker 2: I appreciate it if I am of of that, you know,
Speaker 2: of you guys doing this piece. But favorite episodes, that's
Speaker 2: a that's a hard one.
Speaker 1: You picking your favorite children, right. I mean, but I'm
Speaker 1: putting you on the spot here.
Speaker 2: I'd probably say episode four of Flight twenty two, just
Speaker 2: because you know, there was so obviously so much build
Speaker 2: up to that draft and it really kind of we
Speaker 2: got blessed by the doc Odds at Night where you know,
Speaker 2: Joe trades up for Jermaine and we were able to
Speaker 2: kind of tell that story full circle. It was so
Speaker 2: cool to see and we had so many you know,
Speaker 2: big personalities in that you know episode with Sauce and Garrett,
Speaker 2: Jermaine and even national media Adam Schefter, you know, you
Speaker 2: a rap report. There were so many others a part
Speaker 2: of that you know production process. I think it was
Speaker 2: really cool. But honestly, like there's probably so many like
Speaker 2: one just drive episodes I can go back to and
Speaker 2: and think about, you know, they were my favorite in
Speaker 2: their own way, but obviously, like I think the you know,
Speaker 2: the episode with with Aaron from this past weeks is
Speaker 2: going to be up there just because of you know
Speaker 2: what it meant for everybody in the excitement around the fans.
Speaker 1: All right, man, well you got a lot of work
Speaker 1: to get after episode two. It's gonna chronicle the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three New York Jets Draft and then ninety of
Speaker 1: episode three, Flight twenty three Accession still yet to be shot,
Speaker 1: so you.
Speaker 2: Got a ways to go here. It's like I think
Speaker 2: people probably think we take a breath after, you know,
Speaker 2: episode one, but we're our crews grinding back there. So
Speaker 2: there's two good episodes to come.
Speaker 1: Thanks brother, Thanks Yeah,