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Speaker 1: to around the fl How are you, Colleen. I'm great.
Speaker 1: I'm doing really good. I just got back from Atlanta
Speaker 1: a little trip over the weekend. Um, my friend just
Speaker 1: had some twins, so I learned how to hold a
Speaker 1: child twins. Um, so yeah, you say twins like to
Speaker 1: not know? No, was it like two boys who were twins,
Speaker 1: two girls who were twins, a girl and a boy,
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, they're human beings. I care what over?
Speaker 1: I was so impressed, like this is there. They didn't
Speaker 1: have kids before, and all of a sudden they just
Speaker 1: have like these two newborn babies that are a month old.
Speaker 1: And Michael, my friend's husband, has two babies like strapped,
Speaker 1: like swaddled strapped onto him somehow. They're very tiny and
Speaker 1: he's vacuuming the house at the same time. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you guys are doing great workout.
Speaker 1: I told I told my wife, and I stuck to
Speaker 1: the word. I said, you will never see me again
Speaker 1: in one of those like baby strap things walking down
Speaker 1: a sidewalk. You'll never put that on me. And why
Speaker 1: baby sitting and you're walking because I'm gonna hold my child.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't. I don't agree with big baby
Speaker 1: strap in their whole. He then think it's masculine. I
Speaker 1: would I would have gone in that direction. I thought
Speaker 1: it looks a little bit. It is not masculin. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, but I don't want to. That's a
Speaker 1: luxury you can have in Los Angeles. My first ellis
Speaker 1: was in Manhattan. You try walking around four like miles
Speaker 1: and stuff, just carrying that baby. See, I think it's
Speaker 1: like attractive. You're not putting a stroller on a New
Speaker 1: York City sidewalk. And if you're going around all day
Speaker 1: and you got the baby, you gotta do a lot
Speaker 1: of carrying, You're gonna be doing a lot of that's same. Look. Yeah, sure, okay,
Speaker 1: I think you have it all wrong. That's just that's
Speaker 1: just where I come down on it. And and you
Speaker 1: could strap on if you want. Yeah, personal needs, personal wants.
Speaker 1: It's like a fanny pack for a baby. Great, well,
Speaker 1: you know, let's just leave it there. Fine, we disagree,
Speaker 1: it's fine, all right, It's okay, So friends do This
Speaker 1: is around the AFC in forty eight minutes exactly, and
Speaker 1: it's a perfect time for it. Uh, We're gonna do
Speaker 1: the NFC later in the week with mister Patrick Claybon,
Speaker 1: and we are doing this greggy because it feels right.
Speaker 1: We are setting the table for what's going to be
Speaker 1: a whirlwind of about six weeks of football transactions. So
Speaker 1: let's see where everybody's at, especially the next two weeks.
Speaker 1: I want to get this thing out there before anything happens.
Speaker 1: But starting this weekend, I noticed you were on the
Speaker 1: Free Agency Frenzy watch co hosting on Sunday. Starting around then,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be popping for about ten straight days. Cuts, trades,
Speaker 1: all the rest. I feel I feel like it is
Speaker 1: popping now. I kind of look at the understand the
Speaker 1: deadline is a nice branding opportunity for various people, but
Speaker 1: it's like, what's happening. Let's be real. I mean, we
Speaker 1: were sitting home yesterday watching bullets fly left and right
Speaker 1: on our laptops and on NFL network. Yes, that's true,
Speaker 1: that is true. So why don't we, without further ado,
Speaker 1: dig in to everything. Because again, the rules finite there,
Speaker 1: there is no there's no wiggle room here. Three minutes
Speaker 1: per team, sixteen teams, sixteen times, three party eight minutes.
Speaker 1: We don't go over. If you go over. Our producer
Speaker 1: and we've all signed waivers years ago, is allowed to
Speaker 1: trank us. Right in the old jugular it sounds like this, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what was that? That's not our tank? You just you
Speaker 1: just killed Colleen. Now we don't have a fourth first, yeah,
Speaker 1: Christian here first, the brave Figger. You do have the trank, right,
Speaker 1: of course, of course it's there, it is. We got
Speaker 1: a little nervous there. Without the trunk, it's a problem
Speaker 1: keeping people in line. So we're gonna go through all
Speaker 1: four divisions in the AFC today, NFC after that, So
Speaker 1: let us get going. Do we have any type of um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a DJ's air horn something to
Speaker 1: get us rolling here? There should be like an opening
Speaker 1: ceremony of sorts, right, yeah, that's something we should work
Speaker 1: on for next year. It's all right ready, ye I
Speaker 1: like it. Let's start with the Buffalo bills and I
Speaker 1: will get us going here because you know, this is
Speaker 1: a huge year for the AFC East champions. They have
Speaker 1: become a mainstay obviously in the AFC playoffs, but they
Speaker 1: can't get over the hump. They can't even get to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, So what do they have to do?
Speaker 1: A couple of things, and it seems like it's offense related.
Speaker 1: As we look ahead to free agency in the draft.
Speaker 1: The offensive line was a little bit of a problem
Speaker 1: this season. I could see them going down that road.
Speaker 1: But I think it is skill players that you're going
Speaker 1: to see this team look different. Wide receiver is a
Speaker 1: little weird and funky and free agency in the draft,
Speaker 1: but making a move there. This is a tight end
Speaker 1: heavy draft. I see something there. I love so much.
Speaker 1: Boys and girls. Derek Henry to the Bills. I see
Speaker 1: them making big moves to help Josh Allen just like
Speaker 1: everyone else seems to think. Do you agree? I would
Speaker 1: adore that we mentioned the Bills the Eagles just for fun.
Speaker 1: As Derek Henry Henry landing spots a couple of shows ago,
Speaker 1: I think if you go after Derrick Henry, you've got
Speaker 1: to say, like, yeah, we're a team with like essentially
Speaker 1: a one year, two year super Bowl window, and he's
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that deep in the season, if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, can literally just destroy our enemy. And Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry added to Josh Allen and friends. That's suddenly who's
Speaker 1: going to tackle that team? If you take that Sunday off,
Speaker 1: you suddenly have a little issue. I think a problem
Speaker 1: for the Titans when it comes to trading Henry is
Speaker 1: just there's so many good running backs available in this market.
Speaker 1: But I do think they'd want to add a little
Speaker 1: juice there. Devin Singletary's a free agent. I think they
Speaker 1: liked what James Cook gave him, but maybe he's going
Speaker 1: to be more of a third done guy. They have
Speaker 1: some big decisions though. Jordan Poyer kind of been a
Speaker 1: rock for them in this Sean McDermott defense and tremade Edmonds,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the first picks under Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: when they arrived here, both free agents, Edmond's coming off
Speaker 1: a career year. I think they got to be careful
Speaker 1: about like overspending, to just keep this same group together
Speaker 1: and be interesting. McDermott maybe taking over that defense after
Speaker 1: Leslie Frazer's got that's okay, all right here, I got
Speaker 1: some I got some thoughts real quick from the offensive
Speaker 1: line a whole minute I think is the for me,
Speaker 1: that's my biggest concern, because we saw the problems from
Speaker 1: that in the loss to Cincinnati, And when you look
Speaker 1: at even the way that PF ranks them, their final
Speaker 1: run blocking grade was fifth worth. So if they're gonna
Speaker 1: get Derrick Henry, they better have a good offensive line
Speaker 1: in place too. And then they really do need a
Speaker 1: legit number two wide receiver because gave Davis he was
Speaker 1: expected to take that next step, but I'm not really
Speaker 1: sure he did. And when you have I mean Isaiah McKenzie.
Speaker 1: He's a good role player, but they need someone opposite
Speaker 1: Steffon Diggs to really make this offense sing. All right,
Speaker 1: hear me out. Okay, you get new Copkins, get Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: draft an offensive lineman. What did you win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Have a huge off season. I say, get Hopkins and
Speaker 1: get like a sheep running back. There's a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Title game at least. That's not gonna be good enough,
Speaker 1: I know, but that feel like we both just got
Speaker 1: taken out. Who got it? By the way, that was
Speaker 1: both Mark and Dan for talking after the timer ended.
Speaker 1: All right, up next, Colleen Wolf and Miami Dolphins. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. His first season was pretty promising, you guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: he made some fashion statement here. He made the playoffs, um,
Speaker 1: and I think that like he made an excellent first impression,
Speaker 1: especially the first half of the season, they were also
Speaker 1: a little uneven at times. And I think this first
Speaker 1: season for McDaniel was not unlike Nick Sirianni's first season
Speaker 1: with the Eagles and the fact that they were able
Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs and it was unexpected. They
Speaker 1: lost in terrible fashion to the Bucks, but it kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of that. And I think to Ah,
Speaker 1: he showed some growth and development before the concussions. But
Speaker 1: I mean when you look at their scoring, they scored
Speaker 1: the eleventh most points per game. Blah blah blah blah bop.
Speaker 1: I mean the receivers they produced. You have two receivers
Speaker 1: there with over a thousand yards. Their defense was the weakness,
Speaker 1: and Vic Fangio is going to try and change that
Speaker 1: make it into a strength. The secondary really dropped off.
Speaker 1: It's the biggest area of weakness for them. Byron Jones
Speaker 1: was hurt all season. He'll get cut if he hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten cut already, he got cut, I don't know he will.
Speaker 1: And then Xavien Howard he struggled in coverage too. So
Speaker 1: that is that's a major situation that they need to
Speaker 1: figure out. But they have no first round pick. They're
Speaker 1: in a tough spot, not a lot of cap space,
Speaker 1: no first round pick, like heightened expectations after that year,
Speaker 1: very difficult division, and you mentioned like major holes like
Speaker 1: offensive line, secondary. Fangio will help that, I think with coaching.
Speaker 1: But they profile as a team that would want to
Speaker 1: be very aggressive this offseason, and yet they don't seem
Speaker 1: to have as many like resources to do it in
Speaker 1: terms of cap spaces as you would hope. I mean,
Speaker 1: I love the idea of a team being in the
Speaker 1: second year of a Mike McDaniel offense, except so much
Speaker 1: went well through the year last year. I mean, it
Speaker 1: all came down to like complete chaos at the quarterback
Speaker 1: position in terms of durability. And I think that you know,
Speaker 1: I know Mike mtalan keeps coming on supporting two over
Speaker 1: and over. I just wonder if they're a sneaky little
Speaker 1: team we talked about it last step that might be
Speaker 1: tempted to chase someone like Lamar Jackson because their owner
Speaker 1: keeps wanting to chase these guys left and right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or bring back Tom Brady. But he says he's not
Speaker 1: coming back. Yeah, had said that he had heard there
Speaker 1: was like a rumor Brady with the Dolphins, so Miami,
Speaker 1: you can't imagine that happens. That would be crazy. But
Speaker 1: you know he's already come out of retirement once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the two A thing is it does
Speaker 1: feel like there might be something missing here. As much
Speaker 1: as they do love him, do they really want to
Speaker 1: go into a deeper relationship with him? And then Lamar
Speaker 1: is really there. I know Darlington reported that they weren't
Speaker 1: in on Lamar, but you gotta put that out there
Speaker 1: and play well though. And I think that they played
Speaker 1: the Bills really close all season long too. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: comped them to Sirianni and the Eagles, though, would twa
Speaker 1: make a hurts like leap you already made a leap
Speaker 1: last right, you know, not not like that. I was
Speaker 1: right and you know, came in right under this because
Speaker 1: of the tank situation, we're not going to trank or
Speaker 1: unless it's egregious, were already killed me at the top
Speaker 1: of the show's situation where it's like, well, if it's
Speaker 1: we look at the clock first, right, there's like the
Speaker 1: tenth of a second after zero zero, you know, point nine, right,
Speaker 1: it was like half a secondever, But it's fine. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, all right, you know, like I
Speaker 1: have a past with Bill Belichick. It's part of my youth.
Speaker 1: I really like, have always thought highly of him. But
Speaker 1: I so I keep the letters. Yeah, I keep wondering.
Speaker 1: Dot Com still check if you can still find it
Speaker 1: on our site. We'll see. Um. I just keep wondering
Speaker 1: if like last year, Belichick was sort of doing like
Speaker 1: a high level punking of society and will completely get
Speaker 1: like Mac Jones back on track under his guy pal
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. Comes September, you know, load up on free agency.
Speaker 1: They have like a major amount of cap space this year,
Speaker 1: seventh most in the league right now, six draft picks
Speaker 1: in the first four rounds. Maybe they go back to playoffs.
Speaker 1: Everything's fine all over again. But then I also, like
Speaker 1: I do ponder how last season Art that was one
Speaker 1: of the rare shining examples of the Pats totally mismanaging
Speaker 1: last offseason and sabotaging their quarterbacks under a defensive coach.
Speaker 1: And somehow it's like Bill Belichick didn't see any of
Speaker 1: that coming, and it leads me to ask a sacrilegious question.
Speaker 1: As the league is growing, so is there any concern here?
Speaker 1: In March twenty twenty three, Frank into your neck, Belichick
Speaker 1: in a hyper revolutionary NFL. Is he showing signs of
Speaker 1: being left behind just a little bit? Oh, who a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's being left behind, but I
Speaker 1: definitely know I wrote this down after you said it.
Speaker 1: I know that last season wasn't a high level punking
Speaker 1: of society, right I think, Bill, But we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it that way, like oh, it's gonna be fun,
Speaker 1: like everyone's all getting all worked up, and then it
Speaker 1: was a disaster. I've said it often on the show.
Speaker 1: It's like, Bill, what has Bill ever made kind of
Speaker 1: a fool of himself and not been ready to develop
Speaker 1: a young quarterback and run the team the right way? Well,
Speaker 1: then we saw it like the idea of the Joe
Speaker 1: Judge Patricia thing. We don't need to talk about that again,
Speaker 1: but we know it went poorly and it is kind
Speaker 1: of crazy to think, Greggy, I know you are Belichick
Speaker 1: supported at number one that he did kind of these
Speaker 1: are valuable rookie contract years, and you had a very
Speaker 1: promising first year player in Jones. You kind of just
Speaker 1: booted his second year development and now you're in a
Speaker 1: kind of a weird in between stage. Yeah, because they
Speaker 1: need so much help. So Nelson Aguilar is a free agent,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's good. Jacoby Myers is a free agent.
Speaker 1: That's bad. I hope they bring back, bring him back.
Speaker 1: But yes, they have cap space. They also have so
Speaker 1: many needs, like pick a tackle. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep Trent Brown or not. I wouldn't wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me if they cut them, then you would need
Speaker 1: two tackles. They need help in their secondary. Jonathan Jones
Speaker 1: is a free agent. We don't know if Devin mccordy
Speaker 1: is coming back. There's just like not a spot on
Speaker 1: this team that I feel totally comfortable with. Some good
Speaker 1: young pieces on defense in general, but Johnny Swiss still
Speaker 1: on this team. Hunter Henry's kind of overpaid, Like so weird.
Speaker 1: They need to make a lot of moves like weird team.
Speaker 1: It just it feels like a team that is like
Speaker 1: old and try to be young. Like just from the roster,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, it's like hello, fellow kids, that is
Speaker 1: the team. They still win eight or nine games every year.
Speaker 1: But but what Greg, did you watch the game on Monday?
Speaker 1: New York Jets, New York Jets. Okay, we spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time talking Rogers. We will talk Rogers, uh so,
Speaker 1: more so, let's talk about the non Rogers aspects to
Speaker 1: this team. What do they do if they get Rogers?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have to clear a lot of cap space?
Speaker 1: That could be Carl Lawson, what's the big time pickup?
Speaker 1: Could be Jordan Whitehead. Uh I guess my issue with
Speaker 1: all the talk about Rogers is like, well, you put
Speaker 1: him with the best defense in the league and these
Speaker 1: young pieces and like away you go. But they won't
Speaker 1: be the best defense in the league next year. That's
Speaker 1: just like not how it works. I think you have
Speaker 1: to expect the defense to take a step back because
Speaker 1: that's usually what happens, and you have a decent amount
Speaker 1: of free agents there and you need a guy like
Speaker 1: Rogers to juice up the offense a lot to make
Speaker 1: up for what's going to happen to the defense. It's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Defenses only matters so much. I think
Speaker 1: even the Jets saw that in some big spots that
Speaker 1: like the defense is only gonna take them so far.
Speaker 1: You gotta juice up that offense with Rogers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, that's gonna be the key. Well, he's he's
Speaker 1: getting the think can do the closest part of it.
Speaker 1: He's done this part of it before. You're right hanging
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah. Yeah. Jermaine Johnson is their first round pick,
Speaker 1: one of the first round picks from last year. The
Speaker 1: idea is that he could slide in and take Carl
Speaker 1: Looston's spot. That's sensible, but then you're banking on his development.
Speaker 1: For the most part. Though. The defense is coming back.
Speaker 1: They have some depth pieces the defensive line. They'll be
Speaker 1: looking kind of at the lower margins of free agents.
Speaker 1: They gotta get things right with Quinnon Williams to get
Speaker 1: him paid. I could see them adding a safety and
Speaker 1: there's some nice options in free agency. I think that's
Speaker 1: a target that they'll they'll look at. But for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is if you do Land Rogers, you got to
Speaker 1: invest in the offensive line. You gotta hope Breese Hall
Speaker 1: comes back and looks like Breese Hall, and I think
Speaker 1: you're ready to roll. I think they're a very dangerous
Speaker 1: good team as long as Rogers, if he is their quarterback,
Speaker 1: doesn't get old and is the guy who was like
Speaker 1: because he's scouting them too, and he's got to like
Speaker 1: when he sees you're right. Like the idea that they
Speaker 1: be top five, sure, but they're not going to suddenly
Speaker 1: be twenty seven. Maybe. I mean, then there's no reason
Speaker 1: to sign anywhere because if there is going to go
Speaker 1: from twenty five hopefully top ten's like, you can't count
Speaker 1: on that totally. And I'm a little worried about their
Speaker 1: offensive line. It's like a boomer bust offensive line. I
Speaker 1: sure believe they had six tackles that went on ir
Speaker 1: and they have so many guys that are free agents
Speaker 1: too coming up. The mcay Beckton thing is a big
Speaker 1: piece here where where he fits in at this point,
Speaker 1: And I do think they need to add another wide receiver. Maybe.
Speaker 1: I don't wonder if Elijah Moore gets traded, um, just
Speaker 1: because it's been a bit funky, uh that role. Love
Speaker 1: him with Rogers, though you could lose Corey Davis. He
Speaker 1: might get cut. We did come a year away from
Speaker 1: Rogers that the Salt Shakes out working with both Lafloor brothers,
Speaker 1: but they had to get him out of there, because
Speaker 1: probably without Nathaniel Hackettes, it doesn't go down anyway. So
Speaker 1: I just understand what you're doing there. They starting center
Speaker 1: as a free agent. There's just like Rogers can't do
Speaker 1: at all. You still have to have a good offseason.
Speaker 1: And now your boy did last year the year badly.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't an embarrassment until I can't say it,
Speaker 1: oh suck, until he got promoted beyond what he was
Speaker 1: able to do. Now he's got saddled with a quarterback
Speaker 1: that decided to die on us. Um. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a break and then move on to the AFC North.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Let's keep rolling. Give me that
Speaker 1: airhorn again. Let's get back into it. Oh, the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Race Ravens of the AFC North. So obviously the big
Speaker 1: stories Lamar did. The Ravens say goodbye to Lamar when
Speaker 1: they hit him with that non exclusive franchise tag. If
Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't find a suitor that meets his contract demands,
Speaker 1: would he be open to go him back to Baltimore
Speaker 1: on the tag or open to hammering out a deal
Speaker 1: that isn't in line with his original off speculated goal
Speaker 1: of fully guaranteed deal. Is the compromise here that he
Speaker 1: becomes the new Kirk Cousins where he does get his
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, just not the amount that he was hoping for,
Speaker 1: and it goes over the next couple of years. Then
Speaker 1: he hits unrestricted free agency at age twenty eight, which
Speaker 1: would be grand. He would probably do very well in
Speaker 1: that spot. Or is all this not worth talking about
Speaker 1: because there's so much bad blood now between the two
Speaker 1: sides that he is going to be property of a
Speaker 1: different team comes September. I think there's a chance here
Speaker 1: at home. I think so if the right market doesn't
Speaker 1: like happen for him, I think they. I believe the
Speaker 1: Ravens when they say they still want to keep him,
Speaker 1: they want to do it in their terms. I think like,
Speaker 1: in a way, if you're Lamar and his you know
Speaker 1: his mom's helping him out with all this, and you
Speaker 1: don't have an agent like the Ravens are, if anything's
Speaker 1: saying go ahead and find your deal and we'll see
Speaker 1: if we want to match. You're giving him the freedom
Speaker 1: to go do it. I think that's showing enough respect
Speaker 1: for him. If he wasn't happy with how slowly the
Speaker 1: process has gone with the Ravens, but they've been doing
Speaker 1: this for so long and little because you got to
Speaker 1: put a team together though, like, right, you would like
Speaker 1: to know if Lamar is the guy or not. That's
Speaker 1: by the way, you would need a quarterback if Lamar
Speaker 1: is not your quarterbackly that's my more thing is like
Speaker 1: this doesn't shake out like they are suddenly like maybe
Speaker 1: left out in the cold in a massive way. At
Speaker 1: the most, why you got to tread him for mac
Speaker 1: Jones in a first wow, everything revolved around how this
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson situation shakes out. Like their entire future, short
Speaker 1: term and long term depends on this right now, and
Speaker 1: that feels so risky. But I guess they're just banking
Speaker 1: on the fact that Lamar Jackson won't have the market
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson thinks he's going to have. And I
Speaker 1: guess if teams don't want to give up to first
Speaker 1: round picks, they could eventually do some type of like
Speaker 1: sign and trade situation. But I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: team that also has a lot of other questions like
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Yes, they should be in the Hopkins business.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait a second, no, well only if Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: or someone like suitable to them being a contender is
Speaker 1: behind center. I guess that's why it's also nebulos right
Speaker 1: now with them for that very reason. They're kind of
Speaker 1: hung up in purgatory here. And is it possible that
Speaker 1: if they are willing and open to moving on, do
Speaker 1: they just take a year where they're a down team
Speaker 1: for a year and they reload and they get a
Speaker 1: good draft pick next year and they're back at it
Speaker 1: in twenty four. I think that's an outcome here too,
Speaker 1: And I don't think Ravens fans want to hear that,
Speaker 1: but it might be long term. Not for that, it
Speaker 1: doesn't work because they're lying. Like I like their roster.
Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of huge needs, not a
Speaker 1: ton of huge free agents. The Ravens are telling us
Speaker 1: they're willing to do that by everything that's happened, Colleen
Speaker 1: Wolf on the Bengals, here we go. Um, as soon
Speaker 1: as you started talking about the Ravens, I realized that, Um,
Speaker 1: I wrote about the Ravens instead of the Bengals. But guys,
Speaker 1: you know what, I have a freestyle, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about it here. This team. We're not doing some work here, UM, honestly,
Speaker 1: my biggest problem with this team. Honestly, let me tell
Speaker 1: you that the offensive line is still a problem. It
Speaker 1: was a problem last year and it remained a problem
Speaker 1: throughout the season, and because of the injuries late in
Speaker 1: the season, that's exactly how we saw this team fall
Speaker 1: apart Jonah Williams. He played at left tackle all season long,
Speaker 1: and Williams did a great job. But I mean this
Speaker 1: is this has been a problem for them, so they
Speaker 1: absolutely need to get that figured out. Defensive backs also, um,
Speaker 1: they could use some work because Jesse Bates, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's going. He's gone. Also, tight end,
Speaker 1: I mean Hayden Hurst might leave in free agency, and
Speaker 1: then your number two blocking tight ends Drew Sample and
Speaker 1: Mitchell Wilcox, they're also free agents. So there's a little
Speaker 1: hole on the roster too. Um. And when you look
Speaker 1: at this team, they have a lot of talent on
Speaker 1: the roster, so there's only a few things that they
Speaker 1: really need to get done, and offensive line is at
Speaker 1: the very top of the list. Is lyall Collins even back,
Speaker 1: he seems like an I think he's gonna get cut.
Speaker 1: I think Mixing is gonna get cut. I think they'd
Speaker 1: like to bring Von bellback, who's also a free agent.
Speaker 1: That would be losing two safeties. Hurst I could see
Speaker 1: coming back. I could see them drafting or running back.
Speaker 1: That's sort of their thing. They just like draft one
Speaker 1: every five years. I do listen to the Athletics Bengals podcast,
Speaker 1: Paul Denner Dinner or guests of our show, and they
Speaker 1: really think that the Bengals will not be spending in
Speaker 1: free agency this offseason. They're saving all that money for
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Well, I think they're one of these teams
Speaker 1: where your start, you have that, you have Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: down the road, and so you can't hit a bunch
Speaker 1: of positions. They did that last year and addressed the
Speaker 1: office several years. It was done a job. It was
Speaker 1: injuries that sideswipe them though it wasn't the planning. I
Speaker 1: think like they're a well constructed team at this point.
Speaker 1: But like the Bengals, to me, among their Chiefs Bills,
Speaker 1: these high flying NFC teams, they are losing a lot
Speaker 1: of faces. They need tackle help. I mean, Williams was
Speaker 1: okay and but now he's okay coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: and you don't have a right you want to hear
Speaker 1: something that's little less than Okay, Williams tied for the
Speaker 1: most sack surrendered by any tackle twelve in the regular
Speaker 1: season and had a minus forty nine point nine run
Speaker 1: blocking grade per PF. Wow, that's a lot. And then
Speaker 1: Bell Bates and Eli Apple, who I know is their
Speaker 1: fourth cornerback, but all those guys had major snaps. So
Speaker 1: I think Duke Toby has done a great job in
Speaker 1: general and has earned the benefit of the doubt. But
Speaker 1: they have they have a big off season to try
Speaker 1: to stay up at the top. Colleen, I feel like
Speaker 1: you really did great job up there. Just ask like
Speaker 1: a question. Three of the four most snaps played on defense.
Speaker 1: I got you. Wow, we did it, guys, So we
Speaker 1: did it. Can she celebrate at an Oh? No, you
Speaker 1: can celebrate. You're not talking about the team anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: just checking again for the rules. Mark the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: All right, you're the Browns. You're roughly thirteen million in
Speaker 1: the red. Okay, you don't have a first round pick
Speaker 1: until twenty twenty five. Ye, you're gonna You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to restructure de Sean and a bunch of others because
Speaker 1: there are a lot of real needs here. I look
Speaker 1: around this division and the Browns I don't think thought
Speaker 1: they'd be here this season, this offseason in this situation.
Speaker 1: Definitely need defensive line, no edge rusher across from Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: They need linebackers, multiple linebackers. You probably need a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: if not two, Kareem Hunts out the door. There's just
Speaker 1: a lot for Andrew Barry, who is a great general manager,
Speaker 1: to handle here. But I think it's all of that,
Speaker 1: like doesn't really center around the nucleus as much as
Speaker 1: just that, Okay, we get it. Deshaun Watson was rusty, etc.
Speaker 1: In quotes, but he also just didn't seem to fit
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's offense really well. Like it went off a
Speaker 1: cliff in multiple ways. And I guess the biggest question
Speaker 1: is because nothing else they've done since last offseason matters,
Speaker 1: and you're not in this situation. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you don't trust that Kevin Stefanski. The same way you
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton is going to fix Russell Wilson, Well
Speaker 1: that's probably nonsense, but you can make an argument for it.
Speaker 1: But do you trust Kevin Stefanski to suddenly tailor an
Speaker 1: offense around a better version of Deshaun Watson immediately, because
Speaker 1: all of this was set them saying among every team
Speaker 1: in this division, we're the mustn't win now team. And
Speaker 1: I look at the round that, I look around the
Speaker 1: other three teams in this division. I'm not sure they're
Speaker 1: not in fourth in that. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a Browns hater all these Browns fans thinking that. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that at all. It's just that team building wise,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of needs and they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of answers right now. One thing they can
Speaker 1: do is restructure. You mentioned with Watson and a lot
Speaker 1: of their other players, and that's something where think it
Speaker 1: gets lost where that's where an owner like Jimmy has them,
Speaker 1: who has all the money, You could do a restructure forever.
Speaker 1: The Saints do it every year and everyone gets so
Speaker 1: mad like, oh, it's eventually gonna cost him. It really hasn't.
Speaker 1: You just keep doing it. You're they're spending more cash,
Speaker 1: so they're trying to win, So I think they'll still
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I'm with you. They have a lot of
Speaker 1: needs defensive line, they certainly need another weapon in terms
Speaker 1: of a receiver for Watson. I mean, before Watson played,
Speaker 1: the offense looked pretty good fifth DA right, and you
Speaker 1: have Amari Cooper having this career renaissance almost there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he definitely stepped up. And then you have Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: who is so talented, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: everything came to a screeching halt when Deshaun Watson's got
Speaker 1: in there. I don't think they're that far away. Like,
Speaker 1: if Watson played well, it's a big if, then I
Speaker 1: think they're right there with the rest of the division.
Speaker 1: This isn't breaking any news. If Watson is a longer
Speaker 1: an impact player, if he's if he stinks or is
Speaker 1: even closer to average, they're shot they I mean, they
Speaker 1: have so much tied up in him, and I know
Speaker 1: you could restructure, but it's they've really they tied the
Speaker 1: organization to him. He's got a play at a high
Speaker 1: level or else. Benga good line, He's got some things
Speaker 1: going for him. Good the Pittsburgh Steelers, Greg Roosevelt, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what to say about the Steelers. They're just
Speaker 1: like coming back every year. Yeah, honestly say that you
Speaker 1: plan to talk about the Browns When was the last
Speaker 1: time we talked about the Steelers. They used to be
Speaker 1: one of our Tiffany franchises. Is Dan like kind of
Speaker 1: like the Patriots, But they're just sitting there. They're lying
Speaker 1: in the weeds. They have a young offense. They will
Speaker 1: not have much turnover on their roster, not many key
Speaker 1: free agents, which which is good news. I think they
Speaker 1: need to juice up that defense. Again, it's not lot
Speaker 1: of difference making defense. Cameron Sutton and Turrell Edmunds, who
Speaker 1: are both starters, are free agents. I think Sutton might
Speaker 1: get a nice deal in free agency. But it's the
Speaker 1: it's the line that bothers me. They've never figured out.
Speaker 1: It's the same stuff every year with the Steelers. It's
Speaker 1: the secondary and it's the offensive line. And they seem
Speaker 1: to like this offensive line. But I just don't get it.
Speaker 1: I just don't expect them to be aggressive in free agency.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I would say that I think
Speaker 1: last year, if you were a Steelers fan for the
Speaker 1: first time in a while, you were thinking this might
Speaker 1: be a rough one, and then we get out of it,
Speaker 1: like instead, you found out the power of Mike Tollin
Speaker 1: and like they found a quarterback. Over the course of
Speaker 1: an up and down season, George Pickens looks fantastic at
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Naji Harris played some of his best ball,
Speaker 1: and like the line started as a disaster, but it
Speaker 1: got a little bit better as the year went along
Speaker 1: and the whole all offense in general kind of grew together.
Speaker 1: All these guys are on rookie deals, so it's like,
Speaker 1: I kind of get you don't know what to say,
Speaker 1: because it's like, we just have to see another year
Speaker 1: of it and see where they are after. They aren't
Speaker 1: a billion burning like voids here in Pittsburgh. Look at
Speaker 1: the defense before within without t J. Watts, So you
Speaker 1: hopefully have him for a full season. I would love it.
Speaker 1: This is not what they do. This is not a
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh move. But as much as they might like pick it,
Speaker 1: or the idea of him long term, imagine Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: talking about it to a rival and and putting together
Speaker 1: it's not a poison pill contract, but something really unpalatable
Speaker 1: for Baltimore, and then all of a sudden you have
Speaker 1: him playing with Mike Tomlin and that defense. Love that
Speaker 1: that's a wild fantasy. But Kenny Pickett, like he knows
Speaker 1: the building. He knew where all like the laboratory just
Speaker 1: so so which which laboratory take the extra the smaller,
Speaker 1: the shorter urinals, which had the higher ones. Do you
Speaker 1: know who Stalls helped change the rules into like indirectly
Speaker 1: because of the poison pill contract. I miss poison There
Speaker 1: was a few throughout the years, but I think the
Speaker 1: last one, Yeah, Hutchinson was Another one was our colleague
Speaker 1: Nate Burleson, one of my close friends, one of our
Speaker 1: podcast co host, Nate Burleson, some of those things, his
Speaker 1: contract going too, I think from Minnesota, the Seattle that
Speaker 1: was so is a podcast co host. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: he's I think colleague interviewed Rihanna. We just had to
Speaker 1: burnout the time on Greg's bit here, not on purpose,
Speaker 1: but you want to call time out, you got to
Speaker 1: finish your bit. I'm calling time out. I didn't know
Speaker 1: timeouts are available. Yeah, you guys. Every year is you guys,
Speaker 1: You're likely band Cole's timeouts. Anybody could call time out
Speaker 1: and I'm calling one time back to Greg. You're giving it,
Speaker 1: You're giving it to me. Yes, I believe it was
Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Seahawks and the poison Pill thing
Speaker 1: was so I forget what the rules where it was
Speaker 1: like if if you're in the Northwest, then you get
Speaker 1: like a seven million dollar bonus. I don't know. They
Speaker 1: added some crazy thing into his contract, and the NFL
Speaker 1: at that point was like, all right, we need to
Speaker 1: see Hutchinson was there can't be another offensive lineman that's
Speaker 1: being paid more than his salary, and that that competing
Speaker 1: team had somebody already on the roster poison pill. They
Speaker 1: wipe those things out, wipe them out. Interesting, Okay, So
Speaker 1: just to be clear with the timeout thing, we got three,
Speaker 1: we each get three, No, there's three total. You're a team,
Speaker 1: so one person or we are a team, and there
Speaker 1: wet as they around the NFL podcast, we're trying to
Speaker 1: create the best show, and the timeouts help god do that.
Speaker 1: But Dan tends to be like Kyle Shanahan and like
Speaker 1: if the clock's running down, it's like first quarter doesn't
Speaker 1: like to save him at all. To see like it's
Speaker 1: something like maybe maybe a head coach or a host
Speaker 1: has to take control and call time out and help that.
Speaker 1: Ye did a fine job at that time out of
Speaker 1: others are thought you were setting me up to get tranked.
Speaker 1: Uh no, not at all. I assume. I assume our
Speaker 1: buyelines have not changed. I have no idea who actually
Speaker 1: did that. It must have been Ali. I you know
Speaker 1: what I am the um the NFL dot com profiles
Speaker 1: which um Henry went into mine Henry Hodgson about five
Speaker 1: or six years ago and rewrote mine No. Uh And
Speaker 1: the last line says Hansa's hosts, Oh interesting. The award
Speaker 1: winning around the NFL podcast within a plum reminiscent of
Speaker 1: a young Chris Berman that has sat on NFL dot
Speaker 1: com for the better part of a decade. So is
Speaker 1: our status as award winning it's been since I can't
Speaker 1: take it away the best new podcast in twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: or something. All right, time in let's move to the
Speaker 1: AFC South. Oh what a division, my goodness. All right,
Speaker 1: so it is the cults start here. It's an absolute certainty.
Speaker 1: The Colts will come out of free agency draft, trades,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah with the QB of the future in
Speaker 1: their minds. Will it be a trade, free agency draft?
Speaker 1: Probably draft. They have the number four pick, and you
Speaker 1: could see management, especially at this point where the management
Speaker 1: is ownership, being hyper aggressive and maybe moving up out
Speaker 1: of that number four spot to go get somebody they
Speaker 1: really want. But I'll say I'll do it again. I
Speaker 1: know I don't want to keep hitting ringing the same
Speaker 1: bell here. But do they make sense as a Lamar
Speaker 1: suitor the Colts? Because because Ursay, quite frankly, has become
Speaker 1: a real unpredictable character the owner of the Colts, and
Speaker 1: because of the frustrations in their post luck era, which
Speaker 1: is about you know, four or five years now, would
Speaker 1: they make a play because if they could make something
Speaker 1: work the ABC South is I mean, the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: a promising team on the rise, but otherwise you can
Speaker 1: really make noise in that division with a big time quarterback.
Speaker 1: So the draft is probably the most likely place they're
Speaker 1: going to get that QB of the future. But are
Speaker 1: they a team to keep an eye on for Lamar?
Speaker 1: I think, like Chris Ballard obviously cannot pick more than
Speaker 1: one more quarterback. Ever at this point um and you can't.
Speaker 1: No one would argue going for Lamar Jackson from a
Speaker 1: talent level. I think it seems a little aggressive for
Speaker 1: who they are, But they do also have a chance
Speaker 1: they've really wanted to. They're flushed with draft picks over
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, not missing ones. Ryan Poles
Speaker 1: of the Bears has said that there is a team
Speaker 1: out there, a couple of teams that have basically already
Speaker 1: offered like multiple number ones to get up, and that's
Speaker 1: not everyone you'd expect. But the Colts could do that
Speaker 1: without too many problems and get the number one guy
Speaker 1: they want. I'd like to think they'd want to build
Speaker 1: around someone young, but I'd pitched the Lamar Jackson thing
Speaker 1: on that in our Lamar episode because it kind of
Speaker 1: if you're Shane Stike and you just did all this
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, so not exactly the same player, but
Speaker 1: why saddle him with anything other than someone he can maximize.
Speaker 1: But I think they're two wounded from taking but they
Speaker 1: can't can't be though, well Carson went, but they seem
Speaker 1: so married to this idea. Jim mur say kind of
Speaker 1: giving it away in the press conference. Favorite there's a
Speaker 1: couple Alma, yeah, like he's looking good. I think they
Speaker 1: all just like like this idea. I also think that
Speaker 1: it's like good for job security. We're gonna start that
Speaker 1: Alabama kid pretty maybe keep him up the mic for
Speaker 1: a few minutes. Actually, they have many quarterbacks that have
Speaker 1: played a lot of football on this roster. Still, Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan is on this roster. Still, that's a former Eagle,
Speaker 1: great guy, you know, who's gone up a lot in
Speaker 1: the cue radio. I feel like since the end of
Speaker 1: the season. I guess it's obvious. But man, people love
Speaker 1: stiking everyone. Everyone makes it out to be that stings
Speaker 1: the genius all along a little some Frank Reichlely maybe
Speaker 1: he was behind the butt putt. Let's also need a
Speaker 1: lot of players on their defensive line, and Gokway is
Speaker 1: a free agent Okaiki, they're linebackers a free agent. Brodley,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the offense line bad? Now? What's
Speaker 1: up with that? You're dead? I'm already shot. I mean
Speaker 1: that's I mean that a bad year for him? Yes,
Speaker 1: that is that a bad line? And you know Quenton
Speaker 1: Nelson fell off a cliff. What's going on here? So
Speaker 1: that's what I mean? Yeah, I think him right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that on him. It's nice to see Couter back in
Speaker 1: the big spot coordinator. Thank you, Jim Cooter. Why are
Speaker 1: we spending so much time talking about this team? Come on,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the only team that matters in the South.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. The Jaguars rake yourself, Jaguar,
Speaker 1: turn that Trak on your own self. So anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: the Jags want to come back for them after I
Speaker 1: mean this time last year they were coming off an ugly,
Speaker 1: messy public breakup with Urban Meyer and now they're just
Speaker 1: in this beautiful relationship with Doug Peterson. Won the division,
Speaker 1: watched a different Trevor Lawrence emerge, so they have a
Speaker 1: legit quarterback on a rookie deal right now. Came back
Speaker 1: from down twenty seven points against the Chargers to play
Speaker 1: in the divisional round and lose by a touchdown to
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But this is the comeback that was hoped for.
Speaker 1: This was Dan. We talked about it on the Power
Speaker 1: Rankings podcast at the beginning of the season. Which teams
Speaker 1: which will be back next year. I'm sure which team
Speaker 1: will turn it around. So listen. They have Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: now on the team. He's back, He's a Jag. The
Speaker 1: past defense definitely needs some work. Tyson Campbell had a
Speaker 1: good year Shack Griffin. They just released him cap casualty there,
Speaker 1: so they have to do some work on the back end.
Speaker 1: They tagged Evin ingram Zay Jones also produced last year.
Speaker 1: Those were there two free agent editions, so I think
Speaker 1: they're in really good shape. Yeah. I mean, also, everyone
Speaker 1: including Trevor Lawrence hinted at the fact that his rookie
Speaker 1: year obvious just didn't even exist. Last year was this
Speaker 1: rookie year, and so it's year two for everyone in
Speaker 1: a way, and it's like, I just think that there
Speaker 1: is really no ceiling on the Jaguars. I think the
Speaker 1: one thing that can get escaped in a little bit,
Speaker 1: it's just expectations where it's like now they're just going
Speaker 1: to roll into the playoffs. It's like that that doesn't
Speaker 1: always work, and it doesn't always work with Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: too necessarily, So we just we'll see. I'm a little
Speaker 1: sometimes it does. I just don't want to take at
Speaker 1: them for the AFC title game. I mean, the second
Speaker 1: year of Doug Peterson for Philadelphia worked out pretty well.
Speaker 1: It did. Yeah, I mean, you're a little teas there, Marky.
Speaker 1: There is no there's no room. I don't know teams
Speaker 1: to go. I'm a showman, they have. He moved his
Speaker 1: arms like a marching robot showman action figure. I thought
Speaker 1: it was interesting. Tred Balky basically said to the media
Speaker 1: that like last year, last year was their year. Like
Speaker 1: they went in last year, this year, they're very much
Speaker 1: just gonna bring back the same team. They don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of cap flexibility. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: Patriots went crazy in twenty twenty and then they totally
Speaker 1: stopped spending your twenty twenty one and stopped twenty and
Speaker 1: twenty two. So it's basically the whole team is coming back.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of free agents John Taylor, arden Key.
Speaker 1: Other than that, they're basically trying to bring back the
Speaker 1: same team continuity. Usually I would be against that teams,
Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't rest on your laurels and all that,
Speaker 1: but I don't mind seeing this nuclear is kind of coalesced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're young. They're young, you know, for another year.
Speaker 1: Christian the Tennessee Titans, Graver and I are just bonding
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, friends, the team we didn't bring
Speaker 1: up when Graver thought it, what's gonna happen A face.
Speaker 1: So I actually think they're one of the most fascinating
Speaker 1: teams this offseason because we're gonna find out in the
Speaker 1: next ten is are they gonna blow it up or not.
Speaker 1: This is this roster is a borderline disaster. I mean,
Speaker 1: their offensive line has been bad. It looks like it's
Speaker 1: getting worse. We think Derrick Henry might be available. You
Speaker 1: might as well just go the whole way and make
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill available and then you're kind of in the
Speaker 1: you know, number one overall pick for Caleb Williams sweepstakes.
Speaker 1: They could be a team the Titans that that could
Speaker 1: go for a rookie quarterback this year too, like move
Speaker 1: up in the draft. They're they're at number eleven. But
Speaker 1: I just don't see a clear path out. And I
Speaker 1: would always say this about three or four teams in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's crazy that the Titans are one
Speaker 1: of them, and they always prove us wrong. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: prove us wrong, but it feels like will they they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like six win type of team. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with Greg. Actually, and here's the sound. We're on
Speaker 1: a limited clock here. I don't want to okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: but just the fact that you did all that, I
Speaker 1: think the best course of action is for the Titans
Speaker 1: to go into rebuild mode and get a high pick
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I don't think that's what they
Speaker 1: will do. There are reports that the Titans prefer CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud of all the quarterback options in this class. He
Speaker 1: could be available down in like the seven eight nine
Speaker 1: range if they wanted to trade up. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Vegas is going to trade down, but could look
Speaker 1: to trade up at three with the Cardinals at five,
Speaker 1: with who's to five the Lions. Six is the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: or maybe that's opposite five and Seahawks six the Lions.
Speaker 1: All those teams kind of have quarterbacks. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Lions do. But you can't just
Speaker 1: like one quarterback though, if you make that trade unless
Speaker 1: you went wait till draft right because C. Straud might
Speaker 1: go number one, totally one percent chance you put on
Speaker 1: Tannehill being on the team seventy. I think it's most
Speaker 1: likely they do that. But if they move Tannehill, that
Speaker 1: is a clear indication of where they think the team is,
Speaker 1: which is rebuilding. Right. Obviously their offensive line is not.
Speaker 1: There's no worse line last year in the league. You
Speaker 1: could argue, yeah, and it's not getting better right now.
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan on Nate Davis likely hitting free agency, um,
Speaker 1: David Long Junior is in my top twenty. Now after
Speaker 1: all the tags. In terms of daily Dennis Daly was
Speaker 1: not very good. He allowed the most sack tight for
Speaker 1: allowed the most sacks in the NFL last year. Do
Speaker 1: you have Tannehill going to the Falcons? I still like
Speaker 1: it and nobody and I've been through this justin but like,
Speaker 1: maybe this is a take your medicine year. Maybe you
Speaker 1: do strip the whole thing down to the studs. I
Speaker 1: think it's worth it for the long term outlook, Like
Speaker 1: is it like what are you gonna do if you
Speaker 1: go win seven games and picking the teens again? Like
Speaker 1: you're not gonna build for the future that you made
Speaker 1: that run with that group and now they peaked. Do
Speaker 1: you like Ran Carthon as the guy to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not cop right now? Yeah? All right? We finish
Speaker 1: up with the Houston Texans marks, and we engineered it
Speaker 1: that way because the respect for the Texans within this building,
Speaker 1: in this corporation knows no end. They have been a
Speaker 1: consistent punching line for years. We know that it's been
Speaker 1: a mini function um on the PR front for various reasons.
Speaker 1: But I want you to take a look at the
Speaker 1: Texans now, Damiko Ryans feels like a great hire to me.
Speaker 1: I mean the players that have been around him, just
Speaker 1: like I just think it's just gonna worry. You have
Speaker 1: the third most cap space league wide. You have the
Speaker 1: second overall pick, the twelfth overall pick. You're getting at
Speaker 1: least your second favorite QB. You have two extra first
Speaker 1: rounders over the next two drafts. You got a handful
Speaker 1: of good players already. You've got two offensive tackles you
Speaker 1: can work with, Damian Pierce, Nico Collins on defense, Jail
Speaker 1: and Petre. You're in a soft division right now. Did
Speaker 1: somebody say hyper juicy, hyper juicy? Somebody say hyper juicy
Speaker 1: Percercer in the AFC they I am telling you, no
Speaker 1: one talks about the Texans. This team, I think has
Speaker 1: they has a chance to do a Jaguars thing again.
Speaker 1: Hyper jerky, hyper juicy Perzerka a total disaster. U Okay,
Speaker 1: Colleen and Dan jumped in there too and had their
Speaker 1: little fun. But when I said something, immediately your hand
Speaker 1: came out and almost poked me in the almost a
Speaker 1: physical It's like seven times a minute, so it's just
Speaker 1: like a human ever stopped talking, Greg Um, I was
Speaker 1: just trying to squeeze the line out and it blew
Speaker 1: me up. So what do you want? You get? Four Gate?
Speaker 1: Did you see the Chris Rock stand up special? For
Speaker 1: a year the entire world is what's Chris Rock gonna do?
Speaker 1: How will he address you? He does a live show. Oh,
Speaker 1: time out, time out again? Dan Us, you know all
Speaker 1: the time out? All right? So one left. Chris Rock
Speaker 1: gets slapped at the Oscars by Will Smith. Unbelievable. One
Speaker 1: of the craziest pop culture moments of our lifetime. A
Speaker 1: year passes. What will Chris Rock do? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: gonna tie to what just happened here? How will he
Speaker 1: speak on it? What will happen? He's gonna go on
Speaker 1: tour and then he's gonna put out a comedy special
Speaker 1: and everyone will want to know how he acts to
Speaker 1: what he has to say about Will Smith and Jada Pinkett,
Speaker 1: the whole crew. He does a Netflix special, but not
Speaker 1: just any Netflix special, Greggy, you know people in the
Speaker 1: world of comedy. It's a live Netflix special, unprecedented, a
Speaker 1: huge deal Saturday Night. He waits until the very end
Speaker 1: of the set to discuss the Will Smith situation, and
Speaker 1: when he finally gets to that after otherwise flawless show.
Speaker 1: In terms of his delivery, he botches the bit he
Speaker 1: says the wrong movie he meant to say. He meant
Speaker 1: to say concussion whatever that movie was, and said instead
Speaker 1: said of emancipation, the newer movie. Did Smith did and
Speaker 1: blew the whole thing? Oh that's what happened, Well it didn't.
Speaker 1: He have like ten minutes on that though, and he
Speaker 1: stepped on the key joke and had connected all the
Speaker 1: different parts of the running joke, and it was a
Speaker 1: devastating situation. That's how I felt when you tried to say,
Speaker 1: did somebody say hyper juicy berserker in the AFC? That
Speaker 1: was a well used time out in my opinion. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see it. Nick Cassario. Everyone's like when they were
Speaker 1: like almost fiery Nick Assario, they were like, oh, how
Speaker 1: dare they like consider fiery Nick Cassario before he could
Speaker 1: show what he could do. He's also the guy who
Speaker 1: hired David Culley and hired Lovey Smith and they each
Speaker 1: lasted one year. Yeah, let's see. Well, to Mark's point,
Speaker 1: could they be that berserker? Well, they have four games
Speaker 1: against Tennessee and Indy, So that's a good start. The
Speaker 1: thing that made Jacksonville a compelling pick in that regard
Speaker 1: was generational quarterback getting a fresh start with a coach
Speaker 1: in Doug Peterson, and some pieces in place that they're
Speaker 1: smart or a very aggressive offseason of spending. Remember, not
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought it was smart what Jacksonville
Speaker 1: did some of their spending. It all worked out. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're in the same places, these two franchises,
Speaker 1: but I see your overall point that if you hit
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, Uh, they're they're in the right place
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden jump double their wint for
Speaker 1: long term six right if they mess all these things
Speaker 1: up I just mentioned, Yeah, that's an absolute organizational apoca.
Speaker 1: Get the quarterback. Like, not to oversimplify it, but like
Speaker 1: if you hit on the quarterback, yes, you can do that.
Speaker 1: If you don't time out timeouts and the Texans two
Speaker 1: seconds left, the Texans saying they don't get any respect,
Speaker 1: We're gonna give it to them, and I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: do it. To point out a name we haven't mentioned
Speaker 1: on this show. One of the most important men in
Speaker 1: this organization is Bobby Slowick. That's their offensive coordinator. He
Speaker 1: is taking over an offense with a number one overall
Speaker 1: quarterback or number two overall, depending on where they end
Speaker 1: up drafting. I kind of think they'll end up having
Speaker 1: the first overall pick because it's just gonna make sure
Speaker 1: they get their guy that they're the most logical team.
Speaker 1: Former PF Bloyee Bobby Slowik, how about that? Well, Also,
Speaker 1: his dad was a longtime NFL uh coach. I forget
Speaker 1: his dad's name, but he was around in the same
Speaker 1: It's all very incestral, in the same sort of Shanahan Tree.
Speaker 1: And he also comes from San Francisco. But a young
Speaker 1: coach who's gonna have some pieces. They'll probably trade Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 1: They have to figure that out. Uh So I find
Speaker 1: that interest whatever. They're gonna do a ton sol too.
Speaker 1: I think, oh they keep tons. I mean they got
Speaker 1: they got a great left tackle. You got a couple pieces.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're Damian Pierce won the scepter at
Speaker 1: the NFL. That was a big spot. Very nice. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of with you, Mark. I think they need to push,
Speaker 1: they need to make progress this year, or that he's
Speaker 1: gonna fire that coach. But Auntie about the vision, maybe
Speaker 1: that the GM and all that they're not. They got
Speaker 1: a chance, they got resources. Uh PF employee also Zach Robinson,
Speaker 1: the former PF employee, now in a bit just to
Speaker 1: filibuster for the rest timeout. I just want to point
Speaker 1: out now that that is the end of the third
Speaker 1: quarter of this show. We've done three of the four divisions,
Speaker 1: and you just used our final time out with the
Speaker 1: entire fourth quarter still to play. Yeah, we're down two scores.
Speaker 1: That that was my I've just learned it from my
Speaker 1: my cost. You know, that's what you used to do
Speaker 1: a lot early. I don't see you. Are you talking
Speaker 1: about Mark not me? I didn't take a time out.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't say anything. I take a time out.
Speaker 1: You need those timeouts in the fourth I had to
Speaker 1: get in that slow pop. That's uh, let's take a
Speaker 1: break and then finish things out, all right, fourth quarter?
Speaker 1: No timeouts the AFC West, Colleen Wolf, Are you prepared
Speaker 1: to talk honestly? Yeah? Honestly. Well, I mean, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens once I start talking. But I mean it's
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, you have started talking. Well, the timer hasn't.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go le Broncos what a disaster last year.
Speaker 1: So a couple questions here, Ken Peyton, Sean Payton vibe
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson like he did with Drew Brees. Will
Speaker 1: that be enough to fix how broken Russell Wilson looked
Speaker 1: at times last season. There's talent on this roster, and
Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson can tap into whatever he was able
Speaker 1: to have in Seattle with those deep throws and and
Speaker 1: just his his awareness on the field during the game,
Speaker 1: which he just didn't seem to have so many times
Speaker 1: last season, then they'll be in pretty good shape. The
Speaker 1: offense was an absolute disaster last year. It was a
Speaker 1: career bad year for Russell Wilson, a ton of injuries
Speaker 1: to skill positions. Tim Patrick didn't even make it to
Speaker 1: the kickoff of the regular season because he was hurt
Speaker 1: in training camp. Um offensive tackle they four different ones
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, three of which are free agents.
Speaker 1: The defense always solid, that's usually not a problem. An
Speaker 1: excellent secondary. Patrick Surtan made the leap that was great
Speaker 1: to see. But they could use outside linebacker help a
Speaker 1: defensive end as well. But it'll be a quiet night
Speaker 1: for Denver on Thursday of the draft because they have
Speaker 1: zero picks in the top sixty five. Who I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Hackett to urban Meyer at all, but
Speaker 1: like it's got that chance to be that kind of
Speaker 1: leap for the team in general. Because the one thing
Speaker 1: that kind of bugged me about Hackett it seemed like
Speaker 1: he and there was you know, whispers about this that
Speaker 1: he just didn't really have the makeup to stand up
Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson or stand up to some of the chaos.
Speaker 1: That there are even sideline shots where you could see
Speaker 1: the defense confronting the offense and Hacket sort of fades
Speaker 1: into the background, and it was just like, come on, bro.
Speaker 1: But I also think that Sean Payton never would have
Speaker 1: taken this job or I would assume this without power,
Speaker 1: And he's gonna have more power than Russell Wilson, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough for Russell Wilson to get out
Speaker 1: of Russell will after the season if it doesn't go well.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a Russell Wilson or bust
Speaker 1: situation for Sean Payton. Otherwise it's a terrible job to take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like what also didn't help hack It was Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: couldn't play, no doubt, and like with Trevor, Lawrence was
Speaker 1: a rookie that was trapped in a bad situation. If Peyton,
Speaker 1: if if Russell Wilson still is terrible in September, like
Speaker 1: how long is the rope? Even with Russell Wilson or
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, gonna have somebody ready to roll that he likes.
Speaker 1: Whether it's I feel power, a veteran uh that's out
Speaker 1: there on the market, or somebody they draft and try
Speaker 1: to develop. I don't know, they should have it. That'll
Speaker 1: be telling have a good backup. It doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be a veteran backup. Maybe it is a rookie, but like,
Speaker 1: is he just like break like I don't okay before
Speaker 1: and if he gets back to being okay, it's still
Speaker 1: a bit of a disaster. We were just saying, if
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's average, and that's a disaster, and that's like
Speaker 1: what you're hoping for out of Wilson. Keep an eye
Speaker 1: on Courtland's Sutton maybe as a potential trade chip to
Speaker 1: get one to get one of those picks. I got
Speaker 1: enough receivers, all right, Let's ride to the defending Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. So they just won that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. As what I thought, they were a good
Speaker 1: team that were lifted to greatness by a magnificent quarterback.
Speaker 1: So there are areas of improvement here. The offensive line
Speaker 1: very interesting. They decided not to tag their left tackle,
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, so that opens up a potential massive deed
Speaker 1: on Mahomes's blind side. There are some tackle options in
Speaker 1: the free agent market. I'd be interested to see if
Speaker 1: that's the route they go on this. But the defense
Speaker 1: is also an area of need because Connie I remain
Speaker 1: fairly confident that if they don't throw that flag, I
Speaker 1: think Hurts is like the biggest sports star in America
Speaker 1: right now, because I think he would have taken them
Speaker 1: down the field and won that damn game. So their
Speaker 1: defense was ripe to be picked off there they weren't.
Speaker 1: They lucked out Frank Clark, they let go this week,
Speaker 1: so he didn't become what they ever wanted him to be.
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is such a monster, just give him some help.
Speaker 1: So I think the idea of offensive line pass rusher
Speaker 1: seemed like two obvious places for the defending champs to
Speaker 1: focus on over the next month or so. They don't
Speaker 1: have a tackle right now. I mean they're they're left
Speaker 1: tackle is about to hit free agency or Lander Brown
Speaker 1: in their right tackle Andrew Wiley is about the hit
Speaker 1: free agency. True that that's a bit of an issue.
Speaker 1: I found this tweet from our guy James Palmer, who
Speaker 1: unfortunately doesn't have the uh Twitter account at James Palmer.
Speaker 1: That is a man who's an entrepreneur, a technologist, and
Speaker 1: an explorer. But it sounds like, wait, there are still explorers.
Speaker 1: He hasn't tweeted since twenty fifteen, so he's busy. Wait,
Speaker 1: they're still explorers. He's an ex. Yeah, but James Palmer TV,
Speaker 1: you'll find a very interesting tweet about the Chiefs Wide
Speaker 1: Receiver cruit group who. They say, we'll all be back.
Speaker 1: The plan is to bring back Juju, so a little
Speaker 1: news there so we'll see, but plans to bring them back,
Speaker 1: and that they expect Kanarius Tony to be their wide
Speaker 1: receiver one next year. Who and then McCall Harbin and is, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not really counting McCall. Yeah, you got sky Moore,
Speaker 1: you got MBS, got Kelsey for Tony, I mean I
Speaker 1: think part of a Tony. It's like wide receiver one
Speaker 1: for how many weeks out of the season, But I
Speaker 1: love like the idea of them on the team with
Speaker 1: a much larger role. Does trust the Chiefs like like
Speaker 1: that they had issues coming out of the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: loss to the Bucks and they patched up their line
Speaker 1: that offseason in a great which is kind of trust
Speaker 1: them to do it, And like brut Beach doesn't get
Speaker 1: enough credit. Normally you worry about handling success and they've
Speaker 1: been to five straight AFC championships, so I think they've
Speaker 1: proven it. I'm seeing a little exchange here between James
Speaker 1: Palmer and then Peter King, quote retweeting about some reporting
Speaker 1: from Palmer regarding Kirk Cousins act in the Day with
Speaker 1: the Broncos, King wrote, sorry, I didn't know this when
Speaker 1: I wrote on Monday. Comma at James Palmer, you deserve
Speaker 1: the kudos for reporting Broncos never made an offer to Cousins.
Speaker 1: He sent it to the Explorer Sea. I love it, okay,
Speaker 1: but Lick, seriously, how do we get that guy on
Speaker 1: the pod? The Explorer gonna make sure he makes it.
Speaker 1: Could get Typhoid out there? Um the Chargers? Mark? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just like I've been looking at what's going
Speaker 1: on with these guys. I feel like if last year's
Speaker 1: Chargers team, no I did. I did, honestly, I did. Honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: if they frustrated you last year, I think I have
Speaker 1: some bad news for you because it was like last
Speaker 1: offseason that they went all in to win. Now with
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert on a rookie deal, um, it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: They're twenty one million in the red. They can restructure
Speaker 1: a number of guys, like every one of these teams,
Speaker 1: but they're also going to have to sign Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: to a mass some contract at some point. Football is
Speaker 1: completely different than basketball. They just can't really like had
Speaker 1: the talent or depth. They're kind of stuck doing not
Speaker 1: a lot in this free agency period, and I mean
Speaker 1: they have to absolutely nail their draft. And I was
Speaker 1: a huge brand and still a guy, But I feel
Speaker 1: like my two biggest memories of him are the way
Speaker 1: they lost the Raiders game two seasons ago and the
Speaker 1: absolute implosion against the Jaguars, which his whole branding was
Speaker 1: that all that old Charger stuff doesn't exist anymore. All
Speaker 1: that's just up in the head. We're going to be
Speaker 1: completely different. But that was like the most Chargers esque
Speaker 1: lost ever, and I don't know if Justin Herbert. I
Speaker 1: do like Kelen Moore in thereover Joe Lombardi, but I mean,
Speaker 1: all things considered, I was looking around. I cannot find
Speaker 1: a bigger hot seat coach in the AFC than Brandon Stilly.
Speaker 1: Unless the Jets thing went totally south with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: They didn't get them and they had to go in
Speaker 1: with nobody at quarterback. I want them to focus on offense.
Speaker 1: They've spent so much time, resources, money, draft picks on
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's defense. This happens when you get defensive coaches.
Speaker 1: He wants his side of the bottle of good and
Speaker 1: they've never been particularly good. They've had moments here or
Speaker 1: they're like, let's get as many weapons around Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: as possible, but I don't really trust them to do it.
Speaker 1: They're in cap space difficulty and some teams you think
Speaker 1: would restructure and be able to spend more, but they're
Speaker 1: one of those teams that I don't think really spends
Speaker 1: as much as other teams in terms of cash. And
Speaker 1: when the NFLPA report card came out the other week,
Speaker 1: Chargers thirtieth in the league. F minus training room, C
Speaker 1: minus training staff, D minus locker room F food service.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're getting their food service from
Speaker 1: the same people that have Sofi Stadium, the best maybe
Speaker 1: stadium in the entire country, and the worst stadium food
Speaker 1: in the country. Let's fix it, Croy. Are they talking
Speaker 1: about the Well, yeah, this is different than their training.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with so far. But my point
Speaker 1: about the so Fi food stands bad food. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite take from this entire show, by the way, that
Speaker 1: the food needs to get better. It's so far. Well,
Speaker 1: they're a tenant, and uh that's that's gonna limit their
Speaker 1: abilities to do any charges have nothing to do with it. Really,
Speaker 1: they need a wide receiver. Um. I know that Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen who's being thrown around as like a cap casualty,
Speaker 1: but they said that that's not gonna happen. He's not
Speaker 1: another one have to draft. They had the slowest whiteouts
Speaker 1: in the league last draft. One of those fancy tight
Speaker 1: ends you did a hand thing. You said, cap space difficulty.
Speaker 1: Is that because you the concept of heaven and hell
Speaker 1: you wanted to stay away from caps hell? Is that?
Speaker 1: Are you editing him? No, I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the team anymore. This is just
Speaker 1: about Greg. Save it for the theology podcast. Well that's awesome.
Speaker 1: On point, it's disturbingly um all right, that's it, right,
Speaker 1: No Raiders. Okay, this team needs defensive backs, it needs linebackers,
Speaker 1: it needs pass rushers, it needs run stoppers. That's the
Speaker 1: entire defense. They need a defense. They have nothing on defense.
Speaker 1: They don't. They're in a tough situation. I think McDaniels
Speaker 1: took a difficult They need offensive linement terrible. He took
Speaker 1: a difficult job. Not a lot of people on their
Speaker 1: roster that I think long term are going to be
Speaker 1: there and like reasonably high expectations because they were coming
Speaker 1: off a playoff appearance. It's they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 1: I think they're the in the toughest spot in this division.
Speaker 1: You trust Josh McDaniels to be the guy to save
Speaker 1: this It doesn't look good like I'm I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this team right now, and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of cap space. That is one they are
Speaker 1: is a plus. They're a team that you hear struggles
Speaker 1: with Escrow. Keep that in mind. Yeah, they're they're one
Speaker 1: of those Lamars. Yeah, that couldn't get Lamar because they
Speaker 1: cuscrow hell difficulty. I thought Darren Waller might be a
Speaker 1: guy that they look to trade, but there has been
Speaker 1: reporting that that that that's not the case. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if I totally Stavante Adams definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say it's definitely. I'm sure he's thrilled about this.
Speaker 1: What are they Who are they connected to right now?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has been a name that's you know, obviously
Speaker 1: knows Sexans are also connected. Yeah, they could draft. I
Speaker 1: think they can move. They're a candidate to move up
Speaker 1: from seven or or draft someone like Willis and they did.
Speaker 1: He did very good work. It looks even better now
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones in two thousand, uh twenty one. So
Speaker 1: get give if we want to see if McDaniels can
Speaker 1: play the guitar, give him some runway with a young
Speaker 1: quarterback and see if they can build something here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what problem And like moving on from car,
Speaker 1: I do wonder if there was another world where they
Speaker 1: thought we'll have Tom Brady by this stage in the
Speaker 1: off season versus nothing, but you'd have a good draft position.
Speaker 1: You didn't know that when you had Derek car essentially
Speaker 1: leave the building. Though. They just have so many So
Speaker 1: Dave Ziegler and McDaniels just have It's tough to team
Speaker 1: build in one off season that many spots on defense.
Speaker 1: You're county on your coaches to do it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I do think Jimmy g would be better than Derek
Speaker 1: Carr with Josh McDaniels. I've always thought he would have
Speaker 1: been better if he stayed in that system. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: How about Jimmy G. Yeah, pare him with a first
Speaker 1: round rookie. Jimmy. He's not gonna play seventeen games anyway.
Speaker 1: So and Aaron Rodgers is completely not just they keep
Speaker 1: there's it sounds like it's a no go I think
Speaker 1: from a from a money too, Yeah, I could see
Speaker 1: them going for a Javon Hargrave in free agency for
Speaker 1: a James Bradberry. How about all the Eagles. I hate
Speaker 1: that John Gardner and Johnson they need they literally need
Speaker 1: everything on their defense. Other than that, things are looking
Speaker 1: really good. I can't wait. Sorry, we love you, Dark
Speaker 1: Sun that is around the AFC and forty eight is minutes.
Speaker 1: Good work. Loved it. Colleen, You've said it all. It's
Speaker 1: been so much fun being in studio today and I'm
Speaker 1: just happy that I was able to carve a little
Speaker 1: time out to see my friends. Very nice. When does
Speaker 1: the when does the summer of Connie begin? We need
Speaker 1: to know that scheduling um in March? Now pretty much
Speaker 1: you went to Hotlanta up next where Caradabean. Perhaps maybe
Speaker 1: you know I gotta I gotta figure it all out
Speaker 1: trying to go on some type of retreat. We'll see
Speaker 1: Greece darkness. It is only March, that's really not that
Speaker 1: close to the summer. It also hasn't topped like fifty
Speaker 1: five degrees and raining here. This is when you plan
Speaker 1: for your saks. So I feel like you and Gonzo,
Speaker 1: maybe an ayahuasca retreat could be not like no way there.
Speaker 1: You could not even pay me money to no. That
Speaker 1: sounds sounds terrible, like why just because of the company.
Speaker 1: I think there's a little dignity loss with certain aspects
Speaker 1: of the retreat, as I've heard of with ayauasca, Like
Speaker 1: you are in a bathroom and it's like food poisoning.
Speaker 1: Essentially the body rejects that. My idea of fun, right
Speaker 1: m I understand that. I'm sorry for bringing all right,
Speaker 1: we will be back. We gave you guys a lot
Speaker 1: of content they last couple of days. But there's more
Speaker 1: coming because around the NFC in forty eight minutes with
Speaker 1: a great Clay Bond coming up later this week, so
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. And that's that was this the
Speaker 1: closest it ever came to Mark hitting Greg. I was
Speaker 1: not attempting to hit anyone. But was it a swing?
Speaker 1: I was close, I wasn't I know, just it was
Speaker 1: a he the call