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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Can't believe it's not butter

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Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast Studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansas, got a lot of got a lot

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Speaker 1: of heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Oh and she's back.

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Speaker 1: You think it's Summer of Connie. It ain't Summer of

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Speaker 1: Connie because Connie is in the building. That's the kid.

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Speaker 1: That's fun? I liked it. I thought I took took

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Thank you jo Yo. No maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: soft jay Yo. No, thank you, mister went whistle. What

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Speaker 1: to around the fl How are you, Colleen. I'm great.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really good. I just got back from Atlanta

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Speaker 1: a little trip over the weekend. Um, my friend just

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Speaker 1: had some twins, so I learned how to hold a

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Speaker 1: child twins. Um, so yeah, you say twins like to

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Speaker 1: and um, yeah, they're human beings. I care what over?

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Speaker 1: I was so impressed, like this is there. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have like these two newborn babies that are a month old.

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Speaker 1: And Michael, my friend's husband, has two babies like strapped,

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Speaker 1: like swaddled strapped onto him somehow. They're very tiny and

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Speaker 1: he's vacuuming the house at the same time. And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like you guys are doing great workout.

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Speaker 1: I told I told my wife, and I stuck to

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Speaker 1: the word. I said, you will never see me again

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Speaker 1: in one of those like baby strap things walking down

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Speaker 1: a sidewalk. You'll never put that on me. And why

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Speaker 1: baby sitting and you're walking because I'm gonna hold my child.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't. I don't agree with big baby

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Speaker 1: strap in their whole. He then think it's masculine. I

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Speaker 1: it looks a little bit. It is not masculin. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, but I don't want to. That's a

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Speaker 1: luxury you can have in Los Angeles. My first ellis

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Speaker 1: and stuff, just carrying that baby. See, I think it's

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Speaker 1: like attractive. You're not putting a stroller on a New

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Speaker 1: York City sidewalk. And if you're going around all day

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Speaker 1: and you got the baby, you gotta do a lot

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Speaker 1: of carrying, You're gonna be doing a lot of that's same. Look. Yeah, sure, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think you have it all wrong. That's just that's

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Speaker 1: just where I come down on it. And and you

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Speaker 1: could strap on if you want. Yeah, personal needs, personal wants.

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Speaker 1: It's like a fanny pack for a baby. Great, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just leave it there. Fine, we disagree,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, all right, It's okay, So friends do This

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Speaker 1: is around the AFC in forty eight minutes exactly, and

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Speaker 1: it's a perfect time for it. Uh, We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: the NFC later in the week with mister Patrick Claybon,

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Speaker 1: and we are doing this greggy because it feels right.

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Speaker 1: We are setting the table for what's going to be

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Speaker 1: a whirlwind of about six weeks of football transactions. So

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Speaker 1: let's see where everybody's at, especially the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I want to get this thing out there before anything happens.

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Speaker 1: But starting this weekend, I noticed you were on the

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Speaker 1: Free Agency Frenzy watch co hosting on Sunday. Starting around then,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be popping for about ten straight days. Cuts, trades,

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Speaker 1: all the rest. I feel I feel like it is

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Speaker 1: it's like, what's happening. Let's be real. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: were sitting home yesterday watching bullets fly left and right

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Speaker 1: on our laptops and on NFL network. Yes, that's true,

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Speaker 1: that is true. So why don't we, without further ado,

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Speaker 1: dig in to everything. Because again, the rules finite there,

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Speaker 1: there is no there's no wiggle room here. Three minutes

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Speaker 1: We don't go over. If you go over. Our producer

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Speaker 1: and we've all signed waivers years ago, is allowed to

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Speaker 1: trank us. Right in the old jugular it sounds like this, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, So what do they have to do?

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, and it seems like it's offense related.

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Speaker 1: As we look ahead to free agency in the draft.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line was a little bit of a problem

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Speaker 1: But I think it is skill players that you're going

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls. Derek Henry to the Bills. I see

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Speaker 1: them making big moves to help Josh Allen just like

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Speaker 1: everyone else seems to think. Do you agree? I would

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Speaker 1: hear me out. Okay, you get new Copkins, get Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: draft an offensive lineman. What did you win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Title game at least. That's not gonna be good enough,

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Speaker 1: All right, up next, Colleen Wolf and Miami Dolphins. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. His first season was pretty promising, you guys. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he made some fashion statement here. He made the playoffs, um,

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Speaker 1: make it into a strength. The secondary really dropped off.

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Speaker 1: And then Xavien Howard he struggled in coverage too. So

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Speaker 1: in a tough spot, not a lot of cap space,

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Speaker 1: be very aggressive this offseason, and yet they don't seem

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Speaker 1: second year of a Mike McDaniel offense, except so much

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Speaker 1: went well through the year last year. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: all came down to like complete chaos at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: I know Mike mtalan keeps coming on supporting two over

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Speaker 1: keeps wanting to chase these guys left and right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wrote about the Ravens instead of the Bengals. But guys,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I have a freestyle, So let's talk

425
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: about it here. This team. We're not doing some work here, UM, honestly,

426
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: my biggest problem with this team. Honestly, let me tell

427
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: you that the offensive line is still a problem. It

428
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: was a problem last year and it remained a problem

429
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Speaker 1: throughout the season, and because of the injuries late in

430
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: the season, that's exactly how we saw this team fall

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00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: apart Jonah Williams. He played at left tackle all season long,

432
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Speaker 1: and Williams did a great job. But I mean this

433
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: is this has been a problem for them, so they

434
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Speaker 1: absolutely need to get that figured out. Defensive backs also, um,

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Speaker 1: they could use some work because Jesse Bates, Um, yeah,

436
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: he looks like he's going. He's gone. Also, tight end,

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00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean Hayden Hurst might leave in free agency, and

438
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: then your number two blocking tight ends Drew Sample and

439
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell Wilcox, they're also free agents. So there's a little

440
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: hole on the roster too. Um. And when you look

441
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: at this team, they have a lot of talent on

442
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: the roster, so there's only a few things that they

443
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: really need to get done, and offensive line is at

444
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: the very top of the list. Is lyall Collins even back,

445
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: he seems like an I think he's gonna get cut.

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00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: I think Mixing is gonna get cut. I think they'd

447
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: like to bring Von bellback, who's also a free agent.

448
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: That would be losing two safeties. Hurst I could see

449
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Speaker 1: coming back. I could see them drafting or running back.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of their thing. They just like draft one

451
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Speaker 1: every five years. I do listen to the Athletics Bengals podcast,

452
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Speaker 1: Paul Denner Dinner or guests of our show, and they

453
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Speaker 1: really think that the Bengals will not be spending in

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Speaker 1: free agency this offseason. They're saving all that money for

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Well, I think they're one of these teams

456
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Speaker 1: where your start, you have that, you have Jamar Chase

457
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Speaker 1: down the road, and so you can't hit a bunch

458
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Speaker 1: of positions. They did that last year and addressed the

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00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: office several years. It was done a job. It was

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00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: injuries that sideswipe them though it wasn't the planning. I

461
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: think like they're a well constructed team at this point.

462
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: But like the Bengals, to me, among their Chiefs Bills,

463
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: these high flying NFC teams, they are losing a lot

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Speaker 1: of faces. They need tackle help. I mean, Williams was

465
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Speaker 1: okay and but now he's okay coming off an injury,

466
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Speaker 1: and you don't have a right you want to hear

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Speaker 1: something that's little less than Okay, Williams tied for the

468
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Speaker 1: most sack surrendered by any tackle twelve in the regular

469
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Speaker 1: season and had a minus forty nine point nine run

470
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Speaker 1: blocking grade per PF. Wow, that's a lot. And then

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Speaker 1: Bell Bates and Eli Apple, who I know is their

472
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: fourth cornerback, but all those guys had major snaps. So

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Speaker 1: I think Duke Toby has done a great job in

474
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Speaker 1: general and has earned the benefit of the doubt. But

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Speaker 1: they have they have a big off season to try

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Speaker 1: to stay up at the top. Colleen, I feel like

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Speaker 1: you really did great job up there. Just ask like

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Speaker 1: a question. Three of the four most snaps played on defense.

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Speaker 1: I got you. Wow, we did it, guys, So we

480
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: did it. Can she celebrate at an Oh? No, you

481
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: can celebrate. You're not talking about the team anymore. I'm

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Speaker 1: just checking again for the rules. Mark the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're the Browns. You're roughly thirteen million in

484
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Speaker 1: the red. Okay, you don't have a first round pick

485
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: until twenty twenty five. Ye, you're gonna You're gonna have

486
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: to restructure de Sean and a bunch of others because

487
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: there are a lot of real needs here. I look

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00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: around this division and the Browns I don't think thought

489
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: they'd be here this season, this offseason in this situation.

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00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: Definitely need defensive line, no edge rusher across from Miles Garrett.

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00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: They need linebackers, multiple linebackers. You probably need a wide receiver,

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00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: if not two, Kareem Hunts out the door. There's just

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Speaker 1: a lot for Andrew Barry, who is a great general manager,

494
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: to handle here. But I think it's all of that,

495
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: like doesn't really center around the nucleus as much as

496
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: just that, Okay, we get it. Deshaun Watson was rusty, etc.

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00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: In quotes, but he also just didn't seem to fit

498
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's offense really well. Like it went off a

499
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: cliff in multiple ways. And I guess the biggest question

500
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: is because nothing else they've done since last offseason matters,

501
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: and you're not in this situation. It doesn't matter if

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00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: you don't trust that Kevin Stefanski. The same way you

503
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: say Sean Payton is going to fix Russell Wilson, Well

504
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: that's probably nonsense, but you can make an argument for it.

505
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: But do you trust Kevin Stefanski to suddenly tailor an

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00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: offense around a better version of Deshaun Watson immediately, because

507
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: all of this was set them saying among every team

508
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: in this division, we're the mustn't win now team. And

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00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I look at the round that, I look around the

510
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: other three teams in this division. I'm not sure they're

511
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: not in fourth in that. I'm not trying to be

512
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: a Browns hater all these Browns fans thinking that. I'm

513
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: not saying that at all. It's just that team building wise,

514
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: they have a lot of needs and they don't have

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00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot of answers right now. One thing they can

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00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: do is restructure. You mentioned with Watson and a lot

517
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: of their other players, and that's something where think it

518
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: gets lost where that's where an owner like Jimmy has them,

519
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: who has all the money, You could do a restructure forever.

520
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: The Saints do it every year and everyone gets so

521
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: mad like, oh, it's eventually gonna cost him. It really hasn't.

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00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: You just keep doing it. You're they're spending more cash,

523
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: so they're trying to win, So I think they'll still

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00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I'm with you. They have a lot of

525
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: needs defensive line, they certainly need another weapon in terms

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00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: of a receiver for Watson. I mean, before Watson played,

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00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: the offense looked pretty good fifth DA right, and you

528
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: have Amari Cooper having this career renaissance almost there. I mean,

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00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: he definitely stepped up. And then you have Nick Chubb,

530
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: who is so talented, and then all of a sudden

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00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: everything came to a screeching halt when Deshaun Watson's got

532
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: in there. I don't think they're that far away. Like,

533
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: if Watson played well, it's a big if, then I

534
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: think they're right there with the rest of the division.

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00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: This isn't breaking any news. If Watson is a longer

536
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: an impact player, if he's if he stinks or is

537
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: even closer to average, they're shot they I mean, they

538
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: have so much tied up in him, and I know

539
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: you could restructure, but it's they've really they tied the

540
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: organization to him. He's got a play at a high

541
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: level or else. Benga good line, He's got some things

542
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: going for him. Good the Pittsburgh Steelers, Greg Roosevelt, I

543
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't know what to say about the Steelers. They're just

544
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: like coming back every year. Yeah, honestly say that you

545
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: plan to talk about the Browns When was the last

546
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: time we talked about the Steelers. They used to be

547
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: one of our Tiffany franchises. Is Dan like kind of

548
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: like the Patriots, But they're just sitting there. They're lying

549
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: in the weeds. They have a young offense. They will

550
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: not have much turnover on their roster, not many key

551
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: free agents, which which is good news. I think they

552
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: need to juice up that defense. Again, it's not lot

553
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: of difference making defense. Cameron Sutton and Turrell Edmunds, who

554
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: are both starters, are free agents. I think Sutton might

555
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: get a nice deal in free agency. But it's the

556
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: it's the line that bothers me. They've never figured out.

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00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: It's the same stuff every year with the Steelers. It's

558
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: the secondary and it's the offensive line. And they seem

559
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to like this offensive line. But I just don't get it.

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I just don't expect them to be aggressive in free agency.

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00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I would say that I think

562
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: last year, if you were a Steelers fan for the

563
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: first time in a while, you were thinking this might

564
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: be a rough one, and then we get out of it,

565
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: like instead, you found out the power of Mike Tollin

566
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: and like they found a quarterback. Over the course of

567
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: an up and down season, George Pickens looks fantastic at

568
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Naji Harris played some of his best ball,

569
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: and like the line started as a disaster, but it

570
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: got a little bit better as the year went along

571
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: and the whole all offense in general kind of grew together.

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00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: All these guys are on rookie deals, so it's like,

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Speaker 1: I kind of get you don't know what to say,

574
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: because it's like, we just have to see another year

575
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: of it and see where they are after. They aren't

576
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: a billion burning like voids here in Pittsburgh. Look at

577
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: the defense before within without t J. Watts, So you

578
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: hopefully have him for a full season. I would love it.

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: This is not what they do. This is not a

580
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh move. But as much as they might like pick it,

581
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: or the idea of him long term, imagine Lamar Jackson

582
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: talking about it to a rival and and putting together

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00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: it's not a poison pill contract, but something really unpalatable

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00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: for Baltimore, and then all of a sudden you have

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Speaker 1: him playing with Mike Tomlin and that defense. Love that

586
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: that's a wild fantasy. But Kenny Pickett, like he knows

587
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: the building. He knew where all like the laboratory just

588
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: so so which which laboratory take the extra the smaller,

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00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: the shorter urinals, which had the higher ones. Do you

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00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: know who Stalls helped change the rules into like indirectly

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: because of the poison pill contract. I miss poison There

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Speaker 1: was a few throughout the years, but I think the

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Speaker 1: last one, Yeah, Hutchinson was Another one was our colleague

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Speaker 1: Nate Burleson, one of my close friends, one of our

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00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: podcast co host, Nate Burleson, some of those things, his

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: contract going too, I think from Minnesota, the Seattle that

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: was so is a podcast co host. Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's I think colleague interviewed Rihanna. We just had to

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00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: burnout the time on Greg's bit here, not on purpose,

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00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: but you want to call time out, you got to

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Speaker 1: finish your bit. I'm calling time out. I didn't know

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: timeouts are available. Yeah, you guys. Every year is you guys,

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Speaker 1: You're likely band Cole's timeouts. Anybody could call time out

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00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: and I'm calling one time back to Greg. You're giving it,

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Speaker 1: You're giving it to me. Yes, I believe it was

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00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Seahawks and the poison Pill thing

607
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: was so I forget what the rules where it was

608
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: like if if you're in the Northwest, then you get

609
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: like a seven million dollar bonus. I don't know. They

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00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: added some crazy thing into his contract, and the NFL

611
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: at that point was like, all right, we need to

612
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: see Hutchinson was there can't be another offensive lineman that's

613
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: being paid more than his salary, and that that competing

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Speaker 1: team had somebody already on the roster poison pill. They

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Speaker 1: wipe those things out, wipe them out. Interesting, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: just to be clear with the timeout thing, we got three,

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Speaker 1: we each get three, No, there's three total. You're a team,

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Speaker 1: so one person or we are a team, and there

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Speaker 1: wet as they around the NFL podcast, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: create the best show, and the timeouts help god do that.

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Speaker 1: But Dan tends to be like Kyle Shanahan and like

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Speaker 1: if the clock's running down, it's like first quarter doesn't

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Speaker 1: like to save him at all. To see like it's

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Speaker 1: something like maybe maybe a head coach or a host

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Speaker 1: has to take control and call time out and help that.

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Speaker 1: Ye did a fine job at that time out of

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Speaker 1: others are thought you were setting me up to get tranked.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, not at all. I assume. I assume our

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Speaker 1: buyelines have not changed. I have no idea who actually

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Speaker 1: did that. It must have been Ali. I you know

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Speaker 1: what I am the um the NFL dot com profiles

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Speaker 1: which um Henry went into mine Henry Hodgson about five

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Speaker 1: the last line says Hansa's hosts, Oh interesting. The award

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Speaker 1: winning around the NFL podcast within a plum reminiscent of

636
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Speaker 1: a young Chris Berman that has sat on NFL dot

637
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Speaker 1: com for the better part of a decade. So is

638
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: our status as award winning it's been since I can't

639
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: take it away the best new podcast in twenty fourteen

640
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: or something. All right, time in let's move to the

641
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: AFC South. Oh what a division, my goodness. All right,

642
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: so it is the cults start here. It's an absolute certainty.

643
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: The Colts will come out of free agency draft, trades,

644
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: blah blah blah with the QB of the future in

645
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: their minds. Will it be a trade, free agency draft?

646
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: Probably draft. They have the number four pick, and you

647
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: could see management, especially at this point where the management

648
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: is ownership, being hyper aggressive and maybe moving up out

649
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: of that number four spot to go get somebody they

650
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: really want. But I'll say I'll do it again. I

651
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: know I don't want to keep hitting ringing the same

652
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: bell here. But do they make sense as a Lamar

653
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: suitor the Colts? Because because Ursay, quite frankly, has become

654
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: a real unpredictable character the owner of the Colts, and

655
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: because of the frustrations in their post luck era, which

656
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: is about you know, four or five years now, would

657
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: they make a play because if they could make something

658
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: work the ABC South is I mean, the Jaguars are

659
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: a promising team on the rise, but otherwise you can

660
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: really make noise in that division with a big time quarterback.

661
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: So the draft is probably the most likely place they're

662
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: going to get that QB of the future. But are

663
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: they a team to keep an eye on for Lamar?

664
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: I think, like Chris Ballard obviously cannot pick more than

665
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: one more quarterback. Ever at this point um and you can't.

666
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: No one would argue going for Lamar Jackson from a

667
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: talent level. I think it seems a little aggressive for

668
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: who they are, But they do also have a chance

669
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: they've really wanted to. They're flushed with draft picks over

670
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, not missing ones. Ryan Poles

671
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: of the Bears has said that there is a team

672
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: out there, a couple of teams that have basically already

673
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: offered like multiple number ones to get up, and that's

674
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: not everyone you'd expect. But the Colts could do that

675
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: without too many problems and get the number one guy

676
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: they want. I'd like to think they'd want to build

677
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: around someone young, but I'd pitched the Lamar Jackson thing

678
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: on that in our Lamar episode because it kind of

679
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: if you're Shane Stike and you just did all this

680
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, so not exactly the same player, but

681
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: why saddle him with anything other than someone he can maximize.

682
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: But I think they're two wounded from taking but they

683
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: can't can't be though, well Carson went, but they seem

684
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: so married to this idea. Jim mur say kind of

685
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: giving it away in the press conference. Favorite there's a

686
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: couple Alma, yeah, like he's looking good. I think they

687
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: all just like like this idea. I also think that

688
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: it's like good for job security. We're gonna start that

689
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Alabama kid pretty maybe keep him up the mic for

690
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: a few minutes. Actually, they have many quarterbacks that have

691
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: played a lot of football on this roster. Still, Matt

692
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Ryan is on this roster. Still, that's a former Eagle,

693
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: great guy, you know, who's gone up a lot in

694
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: the cue radio. I feel like since the end of

695
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: the season. I guess it's obvious. But man, people love

696
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: stiking everyone. Everyone makes it out to be that stings

697
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: the genius all along a little some Frank Reichlely maybe

698
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: he was behind the butt putt. Let's also need a

699
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: lot of players on their defensive line, and Gokway is

700
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: a free agent Okaiki, they're linebackers a free agent. Brodley,

701
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: by the way, is the offense line bad? Now? What's

702
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: up with that? You're dead? I'm already shot. I mean

703
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: that's I mean that a bad year for him? Yes,

704
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: that is that a bad line? And you know Quenton

705
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: Nelson fell off a cliff. What's going on here? So

706
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: that's what I mean? Yeah, I think him right? Yeah,

707
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: that on him. It's nice to see Couter back in

708
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: the big spot coordinator. Thank you, Jim Cooter. Why are

709
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: we spending so much time talking about this team? Come on,

710
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about the only team that matters in the South.

711
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. The Jaguars rake yourself, Jaguar,

712
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: turn that Trak on your own self. So anyway, yes,

713
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: the Jags want to come back for them after I

714
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: mean this time last year they were coming off an ugly,

715
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: messy public breakup with Urban Meyer and now they're just

716
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: in this beautiful relationship with Doug Peterson. Won the division,

717
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: watched a different Trevor Lawrence emerge, so they have a

718
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: legit quarterback on a rookie deal right now. Came back

719
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: from down twenty seven points against the Chargers to play

720
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: in the divisional round and lose by a touchdown to

721
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But this is the comeback that was hoped for.

722
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: This was Dan. We talked about it on the Power

723
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: Rankings podcast at the beginning of the season. Which teams

724
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: which will be back next year. I'm sure which team

725
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: will turn it around. So listen. They have Calvin Ridley

726
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: now on the team. He's back, He's a Jag. The

727
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: past defense definitely needs some work. Tyson Campbell had a

728
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: good year Shack Griffin. They just released him cap casualty there,

729
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: so they have to do some work on the back end.

730
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: They tagged Evin ingram Zay Jones also produced last year.

731
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Those were there two free agent editions, so I think

732
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: they're in really good shape. Yeah. I mean, also, everyone

733
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: including Trevor Lawrence hinted at the fact that his rookie

734
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: year obvious just didn't even exist. Last year was this

735
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: rookie year, and so it's year two for everyone in

736
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: a way, and it's like, I just think that there

737
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: is really no ceiling on the Jaguars. I think the

738
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Speaker 1: one thing that can get escaped in a little bit,

739
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: it's just expectations where it's like now they're just going

740
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: to roll into the playoffs. It's like that that doesn't

741
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: always work, and it doesn't always work with Doug Peterson

742
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: too necessarily, So we just we'll see. I'm a little

743
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it does. I just don't want to take at

744
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: them for the AFC title game. I mean, the second

745
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: year of Doug Peterson for Philadelphia worked out pretty well.

746
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: It did. Yeah, I mean, you're a little teas there, Marky.

747
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: There is no there's no room. I don't know teams

748
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: to go. I'm a showman, they have. He moved his

749
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: arms like a marching robot showman action figure. I thought

750
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: it was interesting. Tred Balky basically said to the media

751
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: that like last year, last year was their year. Like

752
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: they went in last year, this year, they're very much

753
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: just gonna bring back the same team. They don't have

754
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: a lot of cap flexibility. It's kind of like the

755
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Patriots went crazy in twenty twenty and then they totally

756
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: stopped spending your twenty twenty one and stopped twenty and

757
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty two. So it's basically the whole team is coming back.

758
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: We have a couple of free agents John Taylor, arden Key.

759
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Other than that, they're basically trying to bring back the

760
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: same team continuity. Usually I would be against that teams,

761
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't rest on your laurels and all that,

762
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: but I don't mind seeing this nuclear is kind of coalesced. Yeah,

763
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: and they're young. They're young, you know, for another year.

764
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: Christian the Tennessee Titans, Graver and I are just bonding

765
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, friends, the team we didn't bring

766
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: up when Graver thought it, what's gonna happen A face.

767
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: So I actually think they're one of the most fascinating

768
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: teams this offseason because we're gonna find out in the

769
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: next ten is are they gonna blow it up or not.

770
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: This is this roster is a borderline disaster. I mean,

771
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: their offensive line has been bad. It looks like it's

772
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: getting worse. We think Derrick Henry might be available. You

773
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: might as well just go the whole way and make

774
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill available and then you're kind of in the

775
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, number one overall pick for Caleb Williams sweepstakes.

776
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: They could be a team the Titans that that could

777
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: go for a rookie quarterback this year too, like move

778
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: up in the draft. They're they're at number eleven. But

779
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: I just don't see a clear path out. And I

780
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: would always say this about three or four teams in

781
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's crazy that the Titans are one

782
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: of them, and they always prove us wrong. Maybe they'll

783
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: prove us wrong, but it feels like will they they're

784
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna be like six win type of team. Yeah, I

785
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: agree with Greg. Actually, and here's the sound. We're on

786
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: a limited clock here. I don't want to okay, sorry,

787
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: but just the fact that you did all that, I

788
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: think the best course of action is for the Titans

789
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: to go into rebuild mode and get a high pick

790
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. I don't think that's what they

791
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: will do. There are reports that the Titans prefer CJ.

792
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: Stroud of all the quarterback options in this class. He

793
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: could be available down in like the seven eight nine

794
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: range if they wanted to trade up. I don't know

795
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: if Vegas is going to trade down, but could look

796
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: to trade up at three with the Cardinals at five,

797
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: with who's to five the Lions. Six is the Seahawks,

798
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: or maybe that's opposite five and Seahawks six the Lions.

799
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: All those teams kind of have quarterbacks. I mean, I

800
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: don't know if the Lions do. But you can't just

801
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: like one quarterback though, if you make that trade unless

802
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: you went wait till draft right because C. Straud might

803
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: go number one, totally one percent chance you put on

804
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: Tannehill being on the team seventy. I think it's most

805
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: likely they do that. But if they move Tannehill, that

806
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: is a clear indication of where they think the team is,

807
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: which is rebuilding. Right. Obviously their offensive line is not.

808
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: There's no worse line last year in the league. You

809
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: could argue, yeah, and it's not getting better right now.

810
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan on Nate Davis likely hitting free agency, um,

811
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: David Long Junior is in my top twenty. Now after

812
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: all the tags. In terms of daily Dennis Daly was

813
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: not very good. He allowed the most sack tight for

814
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: allowed the most sacks in the NFL last year. Do

815
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: you have Tannehill going to the Falcons? I still like

816
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: it and nobody and I've been through this justin but like,

817
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: maybe this is a take your medicine year. Maybe you

818
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: do strip the whole thing down to the studs. I

819
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: think it's worth it for the long term outlook, Like

820
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: is it like what are you gonna do if you

821
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: go win seven games and picking the teens again? Like

822
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: you're not gonna build for the future that you made

823
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: that run with that group and now they peaked. Do

824
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: you like Ran Carthon as the guy to do? Yeah?

825
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Why not cop right now? Yeah? All right? We finish

826
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: up with the Houston Texans marks, and we engineered it

827
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: that way because the respect for the Texans within this building,

828
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: in this corporation knows no end. They have been a

829
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: consistent punching line for years. We know that it's been

830
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: a mini function um on the PR front for various reasons.

831
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: But I want you to take a look at the

832
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: Texans now, Damiko Ryans feels like a great hire to me.

833
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean the players that have been around him, just

834
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: like I just think it's just gonna worry. You have

835
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: the third most cap space league wide. You have the

836
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: second overall pick, the twelfth overall pick. You're getting at

837
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: least your second favorite QB. You have two extra first

838
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: rounders over the next two drafts. You got a handful

839
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: of good players already. You've got two offensive tackles you

840
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: can work with, Damian Pierce, Nico Collins on defense, Jail

841
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: and Petre. You're in a soft division right now. Did

842
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: somebody say hyper juicy, hyper juicy? Somebody say hyper juicy

843
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Percercer in the AFC they I am telling you, no

844
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Speaker 1: one talks about the Texans. This team, I think has

845
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: they has a chance to do a Jaguars thing again.

846
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: Hyper jerky, hyper juicy Perzerka a total disaster. U Okay,

847
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Colleen and Dan jumped in there too and had their

848
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: little fun. But when I said something, immediately your hand

849
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: came out and almost poked me in the almost a

850
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: physical It's like seven times a minute, so it's just

851
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: like a human ever stopped talking, Greg Um, I was

852
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: just trying to squeeze the line out and it blew

853
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: me up. So what do you want? You get? Four Gate?

854
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Did you see the Chris Rock stand up special? For

855
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: a year the entire world is what's Chris Rock gonna do?

856
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: How will he address you? He does a live show. Oh,

857
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: time out, time out again? Dan Us, you know all

858
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: the time out? All right? So one left. Chris Rock

859
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: gets slapped at the Oscars by Will Smith. Unbelievable. One

860
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: of the craziest pop culture moments of our lifetime. A

861
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: year passes. What will Chris Rock do? Okay, this is

862
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: gonna tie to what just happened here? How will he

863
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: speak on it? What will happen? He's gonna go on

864
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: tour and then he's gonna put out a comedy special

865
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: and everyone will want to know how he acts to

866
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: what he has to say about Will Smith and Jada Pinkett,

867
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: the whole crew. He does a Netflix special, but not

868
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: just any Netflix special, Greggy, you know people in the

869
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: world of comedy. It's a live Netflix special, unprecedented, a

870
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: huge deal Saturday Night. He waits until the very end

871
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: of the set to discuss the Will Smith situation, and

872
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: when he finally gets to that after otherwise flawless show.

873
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: In terms of his delivery, he botches the bit he

874
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: says the wrong movie he meant to say. He meant

875
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: to say concussion whatever that movie was, and said instead

876
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: said of emancipation, the newer movie. Did Smith did and

877
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: blew the whole thing? Oh that's what happened, Well it didn't.

878
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: He have like ten minutes on that though, and he

879
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: stepped on the key joke and had connected all the

880
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: different parts of the running joke, and it was a

881
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: devastating situation. That's how I felt when you tried to say,

882
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: did somebody say hyper juicy berserker in the AFC? That

883
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: was a well used time out in my opinion. Okay,

884
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: let's see it. Nick Cassario. Everyone's like when they were

885
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: like almost fiery Nick Assario, they were like, oh, how

886
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: dare they like consider fiery Nick Cassario before he could

887
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: show what he could do. He's also the guy who

888
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: hired David Culley and hired Lovey Smith and they each

889
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: lasted one year. Yeah, let's see. Well, to Mark's point,

890
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: could they be that berserker? Well, they have four games

891
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: against Tennessee and Indy, So that's a good start. The

892
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: thing that made Jacksonville a compelling pick in that regard

893
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: was generational quarterback getting a fresh start with a coach

894
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: in Doug Peterson, and some pieces in place that they're

895
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: smart or a very aggressive offseason of spending. Remember, not

896
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought it was smart what Jacksonville

897
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: did some of their spending. It all worked out. I

898
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: don't know if they're in the same places, these two franchises,

899
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: but I see your overall point that if you hit

900
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, Uh, they're they're in the right place

901
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden jump double their wint for

902
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: long term six right if they mess all these things

903
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: up I just mentioned, Yeah, that's an absolute organizational apoca.

904
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: Get the quarterback. Like, not to oversimplify it, but like

905
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: if you hit on the quarterback, yes, you can do that.

906
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: If you don't time out timeouts and the Texans two

907
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: seconds left, the Texans saying they don't get any respect,

908
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna give it to them, and I'm just gonna

909
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: do it. To point out a name we haven't mentioned

910
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: on this show. One of the most important men in

911
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: this organization is Bobby Slowick. That's their offensive coordinator. He

912
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: is taking over an offense with a number one overall

913
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: quarterback or number two overall, depending on where they end

914
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: up drafting. I kind of think they'll end up having

915
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: the first overall pick because it's just gonna make sure

916
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: they get their guy that they're the most logical team.

917
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: Former PF Bloyee Bobby Slowik, how about that? Well, Also,

918
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: his dad was a longtime NFL uh coach. I forget

919
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: his dad's name, but he was around in the same

920
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: It's all very incestral, in the same sort of Shanahan Tree.

921
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: And he also comes from San Francisco. But a young

922
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: coach who's gonna have some pieces. They'll probably trade Brandon Cooks.

923
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: They have to figure that out. Uh So I find

924
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: that interest whatever. They're gonna do a ton sol too.

925
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: I think, oh they keep tons. I mean they got

926
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: they got a great left tackle. You got a couple pieces.

927
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they're Damian Pierce won the scepter at

928
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. That was a big spot. Very nice. I'm

929
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of with you, Mark. I think they need to push,

930
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: they need to make progress this year, or that he's

931
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna fire that coach. But Auntie about the vision, maybe

932
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: that the GM and all that they're not. They got

933
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: a chance, they got resources. Uh PF employee also Zach Robinson,

934
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: the former PF employee, now in a bit just to

935
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: filibuster for the rest timeout. I just want to point

936
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: out now that that is the end of the third

937
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: quarter of this show. We've done three of the four divisions,

938
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and you just used our final time out with the

939
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: entire fourth quarter still to play. Yeah, we're down two scores.

940
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: That that was my I've just learned it from my

941
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: my cost. You know, that's what you used to do

942
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot early. I don't see you. Are you talking

943
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: about Mark not me? I didn't take a time out.

944
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't say anything. I take a time out.

945
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: You need those timeouts in the fourth I had to

946
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: get in that slow pop. That's uh, let's take a

947
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: break and then finish things out, all right, fourth quarter?

948
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: No timeouts the AFC West, Colleen Wolf, Are you prepared

949
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: to talk honestly? Yeah? Honestly. Well, I mean, we'll see

950
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: what happens once I start talking. But I mean it's

951
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, you have started talking. Well, the timer hasn't.

952
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's go le Broncos what a disaster last year.

953
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: So a couple questions here, Ken Peyton, Sean Payton vibe

954
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson like he did with Drew Brees. Will

955
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: that be enough to fix how broken Russell Wilson looked

956
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: at times last season. There's talent on this roster, and

957
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson can tap into whatever he was able

958
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: to have in Seattle with those deep throws and and

959
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: just his his awareness on the field during the game,

960
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: which he just didn't seem to have so many times

961
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: last season, then they'll be in pretty good shape. The

962
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: offense was an absolute disaster last year. It was a

963
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: career bad year for Russell Wilson, a ton of injuries

964
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: to skill positions. Tim Patrick didn't even make it to

965
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: the kickoff of the regular season because he was hurt

966
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: in training camp. Um offensive tackle they four different ones

967
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, three of which are free agents.

968
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: The defense always solid, that's usually not a problem. An

969
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 1: excellent secondary. Patrick Surtan made the leap that was great

970
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: to see. But they could use outside linebacker help a

971
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: defensive end as well. But it'll be a quiet night

972
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: for Denver on Thursday of the draft because they have

973
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: zero picks in the top sixty five. Who I mean,

974
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Hackett to urban Meyer at all, but

975
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: like it's got that chance to be that kind of

976
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: leap for the team in general. Because the one thing

977
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: that kind of bugged me about Hackett it seemed like

978
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: he and there was you know, whispers about this that

979
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: he just didn't really have the makeup to stand up

980
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson or stand up to some of the chaos.

981
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: That there are even sideline shots where you could see

982
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: the defense confronting the offense and Hacket sort of fades

983
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: into the background, and it was just like, come on, bro.

984
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: But I also think that Sean Payton never would have

985
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: taken this job or I would assume this without power,

986
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: And he's gonna have more power than Russell Wilson, and

987
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough for Russell Wilson to get out

988
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: of Russell will after the season if it doesn't go well.

989
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a Russell Wilson or bust

990
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: situation for Sean Payton. Otherwise it's a terrible job to take. Yeah,

991
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: Like what also didn't help hack It was Russell Wilson

992
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: couldn't play, no doubt, and like with Trevor, Lawrence was

993
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: a rookie that was trapped in a bad situation. If Peyton,

994
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: if if Russell Wilson still is terrible in September, like

995
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: how long is the rope? Even with Russell Wilson or

996
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, gonna have somebody ready to roll that he likes.

997
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Whether it's I feel power, a veteran uh that's out

998
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: there on the market, or somebody they draft and try

999
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: to develop. I don't know, they should have it. That'll

1000
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: be telling have a good backup. It doesn't need to

1001
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: be a veteran backup. Maybe it is a rookie, but like,

1002
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: is he just like break like I don't okay before

1003
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: and if he gets back to being okay, it's still

1004
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: a bit of a disaster. We were just saying, if

1005
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's average, and that's a disaster, and that's like

1006
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: what you're hoping for out of Wilson. Keep an eye

1007
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: on Courtland's Sutton maybe as a potential trade chip to

1008
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: get one to get one of those picks. I got

1009
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: enough receivers, all right, Let's ride to the defending Super

1010
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. So they just won that

1011
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. As what I thought, they were a good

1012
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: team that were lifted to greatness by a magnificent quarterback.

1013
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: So there are areas of improvement here. The offensive line

1014
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: very interesting. They decided not to tag their left tackle,

1015
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, so that opens up a potential massive deed

1016
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: on Mahomes's blind side. There are some tackle options in

1017
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: the free agent market. I'd be interested to see if

1018
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: that's the route they go on this. But the defense

1019
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: is also an area of need because Connie I remain

1020
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: fairly confident that if they don't throw that flag, I

1021
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: think Hurts is like the biggest sports star in America

1022
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: right now, because I think he would have taken them

1023
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: down the field and won that damn game. So their

1024
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 1: defense was ripe to be picked off there they weren't.

1025
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: They lucked out Frank Clark, they let go this week,

1026
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: so he didn't become what they ever wanted him to be.

1027
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is such a monster, just give him some help.

1028
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: So I think the idea of offensive line pass rusher

1029
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: seemed like two obvious places for the defending champs to

1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: focus on over the next month or so. They don't

1031
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: have a tackle right now. I mean they're they're left

1032
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: tackle is about to hit free agency or Lander Brown

1033
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: in their right tackle Andrew Wiley is about the hit

1034
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: free agency. True that that's a bit of an issue.

1035
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: I found this tweet from our guy James Palmer, who

1036
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: unfortunately doesn't have the uh Twitter account at James Palmer.

1037
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: That is a man who's an entrepreneur, a technologist, and

1038
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: an explorer. But it sounds like, wait, there are still explorers.

1039
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: He hasn't tweeted since twenty fifteen, so he's busy. Wait,

1040
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: they're still explorers. He's an ex. Yeah, but James Palmer TV,

1041
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: you'll find a very interesting tweet about the Chiefs Wide

1042
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: Receiver cruit group who. They say, we'll all be back.

1043
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: The plan is to bring back Juju, so a little

1044
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: news there so we'll see, but plans to bring them back,

1045
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: and that they expect Kanarius Tony to be their wide

1046
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: receiver one next year. Who and then McCall Harbin and is, well,

1047
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not really counting McCall. Yeah, you got sky Moore,

1048
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: you got MBS, got Kelsey for Tony, I mean I

1049
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: think part of a Tony. It's like wide receiver one

1050
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: for how many weeks out of the season, But I

1051
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: love like the idea of them on the team with

1052
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: a much larger role. Does trust the Chiefs like like

1053
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: that they had issues coming out of the Super Bowl

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: loss to the Bucks and they patched up their line

1055
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: that offseason in a great which is kind of trust

1056
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: them to do it, And like brut Beach doesn't get

1057
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: enough credit. Normally you worry about handling success and they've

1058
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: been to five straight AFC championships, so I think they've

1059
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: proven it. I'm seeing a little exchange here between James

1060
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Palmer and then Peter King, quote retweeting about some reporting

1061
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: from Palmer regarding Kirk Cousins act in the Day with

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: the Broncos, King wrote, sorry, I didn't know this when

1063
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: I wrote on Monday. Comma at James Palmer, you deserve

1064
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: the kudos for reporting Broncos never made an offer to Cousins.

1065
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: He sent it to the Explorer Sea. I love it, okay,

1066
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: but Lick, seriously, how do we get that guy on

1067
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: the pod? The Explorer gonna make sure he makes it.

1068
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Could get Typhoid out there? Um the Chargers? Mark? Yeah,

1069
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: I was just like I've been looking at what's going

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00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: on with these guys. I feel like if last year's

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00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: Chargers team, no I did. I did, honestly, I did. Honestly, Like,

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00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: if they frustrated you last year, I think I have

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00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: some bad news for you because it was like last

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: offseason that they went all in to win. Now with

1075
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert on a rookie deal, um, it didn't work out.

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00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: They're twenty one million in the red. They can restructure

1077
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: a number of guys, like every one of these teams,

1078
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: but they're also going to have to sign Justin Herbert

1079
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: to a mass some contract at some point. Football is

1080
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: completely different than basketball. They just can't really like had

1081
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: the talent or depth. They're kind of stuck doing not

1082
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: a lot in this free agency period, and I mean

1083
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: they have to absolutely nail their draft. And I was

1084
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: a huge brand and still a guy, But I feel

1085
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: like my two biggest memories of him are the way

1086
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: they lost the Raiders game two seasons ago and the

1087
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: absolute implosion against the Jaguars, which his whole branding was

1088
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: that all that old Charger stuff doesn't exist anymore. All

1089
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: that's just up in the head. We're going to be

1090
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: completely different. But that was like the most Chargers esque

1091
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: lost ever, and I don't know if Justin Herbert. I

1092
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: do like Kelen Moore in thereover Joe Lombardi, but I mean,

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: all things considered, I was looking around. I cannot find

1094
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: a bigger hot seat coach in the AFC than Brandon Stilly.

1095
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: Unless the Jets thing went totally south with Aaron Rodgers.

1096
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: They didn't get them and they had to go in

1097
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: with nobody at quarterback. I want them to focus on offense.

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00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: They've spent so much time, resources, money, draft picks on

1099
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's defense. This happens when you get defensive coaches.

1100
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: He wants his side of the bottle of good and

1101
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: they've never been particularly good. They've had moments here or

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: they're like, let's get as many weapons around Justin Herbert

1103
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: as possible, but I don't really trust them to do it.

1104
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: They're in cap space difficulty and some teams you think

1105
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: would restructure and be able to spend more, but they're

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01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: one of those teams that I don't think really spends

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01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: as much as other teams in terms of cash. And

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01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: when the NFLPA report card came out the other week,

1109
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: Chargers thirtieth in the league. F minus training room, C

1110
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: minus training staff, D minus locker room F food service.

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're getting their food service from

1112
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: the same people that have Sofi Stadium, the best maybe

1113
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: stadium in the entire country, and the worst stadium food

1114
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: in the country. Let's fix it, Croy. Are they talking

1115
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: about the Well, yeah, this is different than their training.

1116
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with so far. But my point

1117
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: about the so Fi food stands bad food. That's my

1118
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: favorite take from this entire show, by the way, that

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01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: the food needs to get better. It's so far. Well,

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01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: they're a tenant, and uh that's that's gonna limit their

1121
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: abilities to do any charges have nothing to do with it. Really,

1122
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: they need a wide receiver. Um. I know that Keenan

1123
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: Allen who's being thrown around as like a cap casualty,

1124
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: but they said that that's not gonna happen. He's not

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: another one have to draft. They had the slowest whiteouts

1126
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: in the league last draft. One of those fancy tight

1127
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: ends you did a hand thing. You said, cap space difficulty.

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Speaker 1: Is that because you the concept of heaven and hell

1129
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to stay away from caps hell? Is that?

1130
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: Are you editing him? No, I'm just asking a question.

1131
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the team anymore. This is just

1132
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: about Greg. Save it for the theology podcast. Well that's awesome.

1133
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: On point, it's disturbingly um all right, that's it, right,

1134
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: No Raiders. Okay, this team needs defensive backs, it needs linebackers,

1135
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: it needs pass rushers, it needs run stoppers. That's the

1136
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: entire defense. They need a defense. They have nothing on defense.

1137
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: They don't. They're in a tough situation. I think McDaniels

1138
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: took a difficult They need offensive linement terrible. He took

1139
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: a difficult job. Not a lot of people on their

1140
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: roster that I think long term are going to be

1141
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: there and like reasonably high expectations because they were coming

1142
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: off a playoff appearance. It's they're in a tough spot.

1143
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: I think they're the in the toughest spot in this division.

1144
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: You trust Josh McDaniels to be the guy to save

1145
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: this It doesn't look good like I'm I'm just I'm

1146
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this team right now, and they have

1147
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: a lot of cap space. That is one they are

1148
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: is a plus. They're a team that you hear struggles

1149
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: with Escrow. Keep that in mind. Yeah, they're they're one

1150
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: of those Lamars. Yeah, that couldn't get Lamar because they

1151
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: cuscrow hell difficulty. I thought Darren Waller might be a

1152
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: guy that they look to trade, but there has been

1153
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: reporting that that that that's not the case. I don't

1154
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I totally Stavante Adams definitely. Yeah,

1155
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: I say it's definitely. I'm sure he's thrilled about this.

1156
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: What are they Who are they connected to right now?

1157
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo has been a name that's you know, obviously

1158
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: knows Sexans are also connected. Yeah, they could draft. I

1159
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: think they can move. They're a candidate to move up

1160
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: from seven or or draft someone like Willis and they did.

1161
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: He did very good work. It looks even better now

1162
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones in two thousand, uh twenty one. So

1163
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: get give if we want to see if McDaniels can

1164
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: play the guitar, give him some runway with a young

1165
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and see if they can build something here. Yeah,

1166
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: I know what problem And like moving on from car,

1167
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: I do wonder if there was another world where they

1168
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: thought we'll have Tom Brady by this stage in the

1169
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: off season versus nothing, but you'd have a good draft position.

1170
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: You didn't know that when you had Derek car essentially

1171
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: leave the building. Though. They just have so many So

1172
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 1: Dave Ziegler and McDaniels just have It's tough to team

1173
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: build in one off season that many spots on defense.

1174
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: You're county on your coaches to do it a little bit.

1175
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: I do think Jimmy g would be better than Derek

1176
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Carr with Josh McDaniels. I've always thought he would have

1177
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: been better if he stayed in that system. I'm with you.

1178
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: How about Jimmy G. Yeah, pare him with a first

1179
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: round rookie. Jimmy. He's not gonna play seventeen games anyway.

1180
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: So and Aaron Rodgers is completely not just they keep

1181
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: there's it sounds like it's a no go I think

1182
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: from a from a money too, Yeah, I could see

1183
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: them going for a Javon Hargrave in free agency for

1184
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: a James Bradberry. How about all the Eagles. I hate

1185
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: that John Gardner and Johnson they need they literally need

1186
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: everything on their defense. Other than that, things are looking

1187
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: really good. I can't wait. Sorry, we love you, Dark

1188
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: Sun that is around the AFC and forty eight is minutes.

1189
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: Good work. Loved it. Colleen, You've said it all. It's

1190
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: been so much fun being in studio today and I'm

1191
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: just happy that I was able to carve a little

1192
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: time out to see my friends. Very nice. When does

1193
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: the when does the summer of Connie begin? We need

1194
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: to know that scheduling um in March? Now pretty much

1195
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: you went to Hotlanta up next where Caradabean. Perhaps maybe

1196
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: you know I gotta I gotta figure it all out

1197
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: trying to go on some type of retreat. We'll see

1198
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: Greece darkness. It is only March, that's really not that

1199
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: close to the summer. It also hasn't topped like fifty

1200
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: five degrees and raining here. This is when you plan

1201
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: for your saks. So I feel like you and Gonzo,

1202
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: maybe an ayahuasca retreat could be not like no way there.

1203
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: You could not even pay me money to no. That

1204
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: sounds sounds terrible, like why just because of the company.

1205
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a little dignity loss with certain aspects

1206
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: of the retreat, as I've heard of with ayauasca, Like

1207
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: you are in a bathroom and it's like food poisoning.

1208
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: Essentially the body rejects that. My idea of fun, right

1209
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: m I understand that. I'm sorry for bringing all right,

1210
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: we will be back. We gave you guys a lot

1211
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: of content they last couple of days. But there's more

1212
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: coming because around the NFC in forty eight minutes with

1213
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: a great Clay Bond coming up later this week, so

1214
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. And that's that was this the

1215
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: closest it ever came to Mark hitting Greg. I was

1216
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: not attempting to hit anyone. But was it a swing?

1217
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: I was close, I wasn't I know, just it was

1218
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: a he the call