1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Box Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching fs R. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: All Right, I wanted to avoid tutsies or whatever we're 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: talking about here, but at some point we're gonna have 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: to get to the drama that is the NFL Players 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Association former executive director now former executive director. Uh huh, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: You've got that to look forward to, plus so much more. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: As we are in for Doug Gottlieb today, Carrie hanging out, 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Isaac lohan Kron, who has the news, is at the 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: news desk. Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer, and Iowa 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: Sam is here as our technical producer. As we wrap 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: up the week, we'll get to all that drama, golf 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: wrapping up in Scotti Schuffler doing Scotti Scheffler things, and 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: baseball second half. While it's not split evenly in halves, 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: the second half is underway with the Red Sox and 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: Cubs playing day baseball. But everybody back in action tonight 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. After the All Star break, we 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: start in the NBA. Oh yes, yes, your would you say? 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: And I I just am doing this because I know 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: that there's new listeners. Maybe they don't hear you and 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: I on Sundays during football season or you and Monty 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: and Sunday afternoons here on Fox Sports Radio, so they 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: may not may not hear hear you. But is is 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: your passion NBA even though you were a former NFL player? 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: Is that? Is that fair to say? Very accurate, Dan, 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: very accurate. 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 4: I Yes, My real attention, my real love adoration goals 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: to the NBA, which is I know a little bit suspect. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: Did you wish you were an NBA player? Are you 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: glad that I still wish? Now? 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: You still? After the oh for all accolades? An eight 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: year career in the NFL. 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Do you know the story? I think I told you 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: the story. 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but after my third year with the 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: that's I was seriously considering switching to basketball. 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 3: I did not you did not know that, So yes 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I was. 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: I was secretly working on some some some workouts and 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: doing that stuff, and my agent was like, Harry, what 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: are you doing? Uh, that's trying to pay you. Are 46 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: you gonna Are you gonna be that guy? 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, you're right, You're right, You're right Todd. 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: So yes, I think I chose correctly. Always trust Todd. 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: That is that is the moral of the story. But 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: you stop playing football and basketball is is your love. 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: And we start in the NBA because Damian Lillard loves Portland. 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: Damian Lillard is back in Portland as a Trailblazer, shigning 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 4: the three year deal. 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: Even though he's gonna. 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Miss all of next season, he's still getting paid by 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: the Bucks and now signs a three year deal with 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: the Portland Trail Blazers on on his latter part of 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: his career, safe to say, the final stretch. He goes 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: back home and can be with his kids. And that's 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: a big, big part of it. And yesterday the news 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: broke here on Fox Sports Radio in the afternoon that 63 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: he was going back and there really was. I didn't 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: have like a hot take. We always talk about a 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: hot take. 66 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: Thought. 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: My initial reaction was good for Dane, don't go and 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: chase a ring don't go around the NBA and trying 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: to find where is the best fit. I think his 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: career is his career, and I think that there's something 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: with that and accepting that, and good on him. Good 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: on the Blazers who had played better basketball at the 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: end of last season. Good on them for welcoming him 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: back and realizing that maybe it wasn't the best move. 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Maybe it was a better move for Portland at the time, 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: which is why I think that the split ended up happening. 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: But it just to me was a it was a 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: feel good move in the NBA when we have guys 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: chasing rings, guys chasing accolades, and Damian Lillard who's going 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: to miss all of next season, decides that being home 81 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: is the best fit for him. 82 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 83 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen this so many times where guys 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: at the end of their careers or you know, on 85 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: the tail end of their careers, they go to chase 86 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: chase that ring and it just looks funky, Right. We 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: saw Karl Malone play with the Lakers like that's that's crazy. 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: We've seen other guys. We've seen Charles Barkley obviously lee 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: Philly and go to Houston, go to Phoenix, Houston on 90 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: the tail end, and Check and Chase. Phoenix was legitate, 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: Phoenix was legit, but Houston on the tail Land, you know, 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 4: like it just doesn't look right. We never really associate 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: those guys to those teams anyway. And so, like you said, 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: a feel good story, Dame is Portland. I mean, we've 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: seen guys come through Portland, you know, Bill Walton obviously 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: back in that day, and we talk about that, but 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: in the present it's been all about Damian Lillard and 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: so to see him go back there and you know 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: he's not gonna win it there, but go there and 100 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: be able to have like a Swan song in the 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 4: place that he loves and they love him, it's beautiful. 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: There's a different place that I want to go with this. 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want to say the thing with Dame 104 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: as well? You went back to draft day when Dame 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: was drafted out of Weaver State and you said to him, 106 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: and you said to any player, Carrie, would you want 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: an NBA championship or would you want the city to 108 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: be yours that you go to. Now there's different levels. 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: New York City is obviously different than Portland and LA. 110 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: The same thing with maybe different than Charlotte. But if 111 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: you were to tell a player that you had a 112 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: career in the NBA that allowed you to be really 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: the face of that franchise and have it be your 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: city because of how much they loved you. And it's 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: not to disrespect any of the former Trailblazers because they're 116 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: still a part of that, but it's Dames City, and 117 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: his relationship with that city has been documented through and through. 118 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: I think you take the city portion of it. I 119 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: think it's easy to say, yeah, I want to be 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: an NBA champion. When you look back at Dame's legacy 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: of him being the star in Portland, it's probably going 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: to carry more weight and be way more important than 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: it would to ever win an NBA championship. Say elsewhere, gotcha? 124 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 125 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: I was about to say that part They elsewhere, right, 126 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: because if he wins it there, it doesn't stop. It's 127 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: really it's really his town, right, It's endless. But I 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: agree with you. I mean, I think for him, a 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: player that didn't come into the league, we didn't have 130 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: super high expectations for Dame Lillard. I mean we knew 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: he could shoot the ball. I mean he was a 132 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: short guard, So that really doesn't work in the NBA 133 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: too often. So the fact that he's at the career 134 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: that a very notable career, I mean, top seventy five 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 4: already has that accolade, MVPs, big moments, big shots in Portland. 136 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: I mean we always can go back to that big 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: shot against OKC, against Russell Westbrook and waving them by 138 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: by Those moments were huge, right, I mean lasting from 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: throughout I mean throughout the NBA in general. So for 140 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: him to go back there and have that reunion, like 141 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: I said, I'm all for it. Yeah, it'd be different 142 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: if you went to you know, if you went to 143 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: the Heat or he went to Golden. Golden said a 144 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: little different because it was you know where he's from. 145 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 4: But if you just went to another contender, you know, 146 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: you go to Boston or something like that and you win, 147 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: it's yeah, it's neat, but it's not like what it was. 148 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: Obviously, if you would have want a championship in Portland 149 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: would have also owned the city again. But still, for 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: what he's done, it's pretty amazing. This all leads to 151 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: Lebron James. It does no carry. I'm serious and I know, 152 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: please don't turn off the radio. Please don't turn off 153 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: the radio because I brought Lebron's name up. I am 154 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: telling you this. Don't get out of the app. Don't 155 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: search all the other iHeart stations. There's a reason I 156 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: bring this up is because, as I said, my initial 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: reaction was good for Damon. I haven't moved off at 158 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: any of that in the last twenty four hours. I 159 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: feel that Lebron's only play now is Cleveland. Yeah, like 160 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: it is when we talk about Lebron and free agency. 161 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: We obviously knew that there were only certain teams that 162 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: he could go to. Mavericks. Your Mavericks were one of 163 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: those teams that were talked about. The contacting. Yeah, the 164 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 2: contacting of Rich Paul, which again I said, is clear 165 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: tampering in the NBA. You got to talk to the teams. 166 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: You don't talk to the ancient and say we on 167 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: a trade for your guy. But the Mavericks were one 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: of those teams. Doesn't doesn't do anything for me if 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: you were to play for Crosstown Clippers, does nothing. To 170 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: go back to Cleveland was the story book story. But 171 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: now Damian Lillard has beat him to the punch. So 172 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: now if Lebron goes anywhere else. It adds more to 173 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: the greed aspect of how Lebron James is perceived. It 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't be a how does man? How does Lebron do 175 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: it in Dallas? 176 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: How is this? How's this gonna work out? 177 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: Even if you would go back to the Heat, I 178 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: think that there would be a little bit of pushback, 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: a little bit of weirdness. I think Dame going back 180 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: to Portland his force. Lebron, if you want to have 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: this storybook ending, if you want to go to all 182 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: these arenas and be honored because your career is winding down, 183 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: you can only do it in a Cleveland Cavaliers uniform. 184 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: And I've I felt like it was the coolest option 185 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: story wise. Now I think it's the only option because 186 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: of what Dame Lillard did. 187 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: I agree. I mean that's my sentiment as well. I 188 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: thought with all the teams, you know, the four teams 189 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: that people talked about him being a viable option for 190 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought Cleveland would be the storybook one 191 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: as well. I thought they were the one that for 192 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: me personally, I would be on board with that and 193 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: want to see what that looks like. I mean, obviously, 194 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: if that was his last season as well. Just the drama, 195 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 4: the storybook type of ending. It could be because Cleveland's 196 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: a good team, they could have made it out of 197 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: the East, right and so that would have been cool. 198 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: Lebron for me, just needs to stay in LA, play 199 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: it out. If that's not the option in Cleveland, stay 200 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: in LA, play it out, and just actually fight for 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: something once in his career, like not leave the situation 202 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: for green or pasture in his mind, Like just actually 203 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: stick it out and see what happens and see if 204 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: you can will your team to a win, which I 205 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 4: don't know if that's really happened in his career yet. 206 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: You don't think going back to Cleveland was fighting through No, 207 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: you don't. 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: I don't know the first one. I think that was 209 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 4: something that he wanted to do. Legacy wise, it's just 210 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: a legacy thing. I don't think it was him going 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: to say we're going to go fight and make this happen. 212 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: That team was really good. I mean when he first 213 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: got there, with Kyrie and all the pieces they had, 214 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: I mean, they made another move, but on top of that, 215 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: they were a team that you look at and be like, Okay, 216 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 4: they won. They won Lebron away from being dominant in 217 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: the East, and I don't think that was him being 218 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 4: really valiant or like the way that it was portrayed. 219 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: I thought it was him being greedy and being in 220 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: Pheenis ego. 221 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: I thought that he fought through in Cleveland the first 222 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: time through all the way up until twenty ten and 223 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: when they then he ends up leaving after that, Yeah, 224 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: and up until that point, I felt it was it 225 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: was a climb early. Then he get to the finals 226 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: in seven, but I feel like eight, nine and twenty 227 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: ten were seasons that you're trying to fight out and 228 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: sort out. I didn't agree with the Miami deal, but 229 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: I do think going back to Cleveland because it was 230 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: just Kyrie, they had struck out on the uh well, 231 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: they had the Kevin Love deal, was the Andrew Wiggins 232 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: steel but they were only about a thirty win team 233 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: at that point. 234 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: But Lebron is peaked. 235 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: Lebron basically at the points he's going to turn anybody 236 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: that he goes into as a contender, and I like 237 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: how he did right his wrong. I guess maybe I 238 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: don't know if it's semantics or it's just a way 239 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: of saying it, like I thought, like going back to Cleveland, 240 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: no matter where he was going to go, they were 241 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: going to be an NBA title contender. Request So you 242 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: may not look at it as a fight. I look 243 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: at it as a fight, even though he was the 244 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: best player in the game at the time. Yeah, I 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: just I think that if you want to take the 246 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: fight aspect, which is why the Lakers are the team, 247 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: the first team that's ever told him no, you know 248 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: like that, and then so now there's a bit of 249 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: friction there. I think he stays with the Lakers this season. 250 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: It's I haven't waivered off of that. I've wondered because 251 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: of all of his little things that he has done. 252 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: But I think that next year is the opportunity. But 253 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: when we look at next year, just think about what 254 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: free agency. 255 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: Will be like. 256 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,119 Speaker 2: And maybe we're past the Damian Lillard point at that 257 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: that time, maybe we're not looking back at it. But man, 258 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: it was cool when Dave Dame went back to Portland yesterday, 259 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: and I think that Lebron, who hasn't been loved in 260 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: LA during his time with the Lakers, probably need some 261 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: of that. And the only place that happens is Cleveland. 262 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: Look at what Dame got If Lebron does it, I 263 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: think the same happens with the cavaliers. That's why I 264 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: now think because the Dame, it's his only option. 265 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: I agree. 266 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I have nothing else to say on that, 267 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 4: but I really do agree that that's the best move. 268 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: If that's the If he does leave, he's carry roads. 269 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. We told you Isaac Low and Crannis 270 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: here as Ryan Berschinger and Iowa Sam. Isaac's gonna give 271 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: us an update on what's happening at the Open Championship. 272 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: It's time for our tire rack play of the day. 273 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 5: Scottie Scheffler to get did on her the balls on 274 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: his way done. 275 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: The sloopstairs really steady and he's dropped it. 276 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: An Scheffler gets another birdy out here at number ten. 277 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: Got a pot, Dan, I wish I could do that job. 278 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: I was. 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Scottie Scheffler does have a lead now, 287 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: one shot lead over Matthew Fitzpatrick, who's at nine hunders 288 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Scheffler at ten under playing his final hole of his 289 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: second round at Royal Port Rush. 290 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be 291 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 292 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 293 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio 294 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 295 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 296 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: It's not a runaway, but it could be. It's not 297 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: a runaway, but it could be. Plus his one NBA 298 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: superstar done more damage to his career than we could 299 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: have thought. We're diving into that right now here on 300 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He is Carrie Rhodes. I'm Dan Beyer. 301 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer. I was Sam ar 302 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: technical producer, and he just heard Isaac Lohenkron at the 303 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: news desk. He told us that Scotti Scheffler as a 304 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: one shot lead after two rounds of play of the 305 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: Open Championship, and he's a shot better than Matthew Fitzpatrick. 306 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: Matt Fitzpatrick won the US Open in twenty twenty two 307 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: at Brookline. I remember that vividly. You want to know 308 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: why I got COVID. There was yes that weekend, Father's 309 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: Day weekend. I had to sit in a bedroom, in 310 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: a bedroom in our house, and for Father's Day I 311 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: just watched, well, I watched all four rounds of the 312 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: US Open, but that one stood out because I was 313 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: had to quarantine in twenty twenty two when I got sick. 314 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Our son was just over a year at that point, 315 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: so it was important for me to stay away. Unfortunately 316 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: it was too late. He got COVID. Then my wife 317 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: got COVID. He kicked it faster than her I did. 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: Like he was like, it was like I don't even 319 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: think it was a day, Like he was back normal. 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: Second time he got it in another time and it was worse. 321 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: But the point being, in twenty twenty two, Matthew Fitzpatrick 322 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: won the US Open, and I just remember sitting in 323 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: a bedroom watching that. That's all irrelevant and I'm sorry 324 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: for rambling, but he's one shot back a Scotti Scheffler 325 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: and Brian Harmon, who won this event two years ago, 326 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: is two shots back at eight under par. But if 327 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffler continues to do Scotti Scheffler things like shoot 328 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: seven under par sixty four today, maybe we could have 329 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: a runaway at royal Port Rush and this would be 330 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: a runaway for the world's best player right now, and 331 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: it would be his fourth career major and then he 332 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: would be one major away. That would be a US 333 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: open from completing the career Grand Slam. But just focusing 334 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: on this, do you like to see greatness at its 335 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: ultimate height? And by what I mean is we could 336 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: be in store for a runaway. Maybe Scheffler just you know, 337 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: continues to put the pedal to the metal and runs away. 338 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: So you're watching the world number one take off and 339 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: separate himself and watching, you know, the world's best play 340 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: at the highest level. Do you enjoy watching that or 341 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: would you rather see Scottie Scheffler maybe struggle a little bit, 342 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: see these other guys be with it. So you have 343 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: a competitive Saturday and Sunday on the weekend. 344 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: You know what, There's something about competitive greatness when it 345 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: shows up in the way that Scotty is showing up 346 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: right now. It's a special thing to see. It's one 347 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: of those things where all of those guys are super talented. 348 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: They're the best at what they do, and you can 349 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: take it to any sport or anything in life. Right, 350 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: when you're the best at what you do, like, I 351 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: want to see if that can be even exceeded, right, 352 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: So I want to see I do love to see greatness. 353 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: I do love the competitive balance as well. I think 354 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: there's a balance, but when somebody has a chance to 355 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: do it, I want to see that chance. 356 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: This is because this is what I think that the 357 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: dilemma was. I don't even think it's a dilemma. It's 358 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: a dilemma with me. I feel when Tiger Woods was 359 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: at his greatest, and there are there are a bunch 360 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: of different events that you could talk about with Tiger 361 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Woods and where he was his greatest, but the two 362 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: that stand out are the nineteen ninety seven Masters when 363 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: he won for the first time and blitz the field 364 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: at a slow start and then completely turned it on. 365 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: And then the two thousand US Open when he wins 366 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: by fifteen. It's against I mean, it was ridiculous, like 367 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: absolute domination by Tiger and Tiger just did not let up. 368 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: Those were the two most boring milchers for me because 369 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: of the lack of competition. So when I think of 370 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: Tiger and Tiger's greatness, like the highlights Tory Pines when 371 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: he makes the winning putt excuse me, the tying pot 372 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: on the seventy second hold then goes and beats Roco 373 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 2: Mediate the next day in a nineteen hole playoff like 374 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: that was that was exciting. Now I was there that day. 375 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: I was at Torri. There were so many people around 376 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: the green. We were down there covering the event. You 377 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: couldn't even you couldn't even see. Like I was following 378 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: Tiger as he was going through the back nine. On Sunday, 379 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: he and Lee Westwood were playing. But because everybody on 380 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: the grounds is following to see what Tiger Woods is doing, 381 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: you have this enormous log jammer on the eighteenth green 382 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: at Tory bins right. So he makes the putt and 383 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: it's the highlight, you know that I remember for being there, 384 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: But just even in other close calls. In two thousand 385 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: PGA Championship, he gets into a playoff with Bob May 386 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: That's another close one like there's Tiger Woods blitzing the field. 387 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: I think is great for history, but I didn't enjoy 388 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: it as a watch. I like the closeness. So for 389 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: as great as it is to see Scotty Scheffler play 390 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: at the level that he's playing, he's got a one 391 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: shot lead in a way, I hope he doesn't run 392 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: away with it because I think it makes it a 393 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: boring weekend on TV. And I just find it funny 394 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: because I think history looks back at those much more 395 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: fondly than when you're actually watching in the moment, not 396 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: knowing the outcome. 397 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: And that's and to kind of piggyback what you're saying, 398 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: it's yes, I mean in that individual match, as far 399 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 4: as the runaway goes, I agree with you. I would 400 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: want to see a competitive one. But I mean in 401 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: competitive dominance in general, right, Like you get to see 402 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: this guy go on a stretch of winning a crazy 403 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: amount of majors, masters and do the whole thing and 404 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: look dominant doing That's what I mean, more than actually 405 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 4: in that one specific. 406 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: Sure you know match. So Scottis Scheffler takes two majors 407 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: you know this year out of the four yesh it's 408 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: impressive to watch, even if one may be a runaway 409 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: and one may not be a runaway. It's it's interesting 410 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: in golf as well, because I think that there's well, 411 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: while you are competing against others, you are like truly 412 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: competing against the course or his tennis. Like if you 413 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: have Roger Federer reeling off a bunch of Wimbledon wins, like, okay, 414 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: maybe you know, Nate dal can beat him, maybe Djokovic 415 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: can meet him. Ultimately they break through at some point, right, 416 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: But if Federer is just you know, shocking up win 417 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: after win after win, you're just like, all right, you 418 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: kind of start to cheer for the other person because 419 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: you want something different, And that's you know, it's a 420 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: little different in golf. But even gosh, when the Bills 421 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: went to all those Super Bowls and knowing now what 422 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: I knew then, I wouldn't have been so you know, 423 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: board of them making the Super Bowl for four straight years. 424 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: But I just like the difference of it. But so 425 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: Scotty Shuffler right now in the lead at the Open Championship, 426 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: is plays wrapping up at Royal Port Rush. There are 427 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: eight hours ahead of us on the West coast. Five 428 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: hours ahead on the East coast, so it's just after 429 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: nine o'clock local time there the second round wrapping up 430 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 2: third round play tomorrow morning. I'll have my cinnamon rolls 431 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: ready to go. Yeah, I can't wait to watch, all right. 432 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid's in the news. Earlier this week, ESPN did 433 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: this profile on Embiid, revealing a lot of things he 434 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: doesn't James Harden doesn't talk to him anymore, doesn't necessarily 435 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: trust the front office, especially when you're talking about his injuries. 436 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: And then there's this, and this is the part that 437 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: I just can't get pasted. Joel Embiid was called out 438 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: in a player's only meeting. And I'm curious you, as 439 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: a former player, if you agree with what Joel Embiid 440 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: is saying. Tyree Smaxy called Joel Embiid out in that 441 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: meeting during the season, talking about his tardiness, not being 442 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: on time and out Joel Embiid needs to set an example. 443 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: So this happened earlier in the season, obviously, when Maxy 444 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: was healthy. Embiid, in talking with ESPN says, and I'm 445 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: quoting here, I know who leaked it, but I'm not 446 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: going to tell who it is the past is the past. 447 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say is it's hard being around 448 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: people that do those sorts of stuff. It goes back 449 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: to the trust thing. Once you cross that, you can't 450 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: expect me to be a part of a team meeting again. 451 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: That's just not going to happen. So Joel Embiid says, 452 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm out on team meetings now because someone leaked that 453 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: he was called out within the team meeting. I understand code, 454 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: I understand teammates. I've been a part of teams, some great, 455 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: some not so great, nothing near the level that you played. 456 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: I have a tough time hearing what Joel Embiid is 457 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: saying and agreeing with him. I understand that there's a 458 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: certain amount of trust that you have to have, but 459 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: when you are the face of the organization, to the 460 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: face of the franchise, right, I think there's other responsibilities 461 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: that he's just not taking on. And I think that 462 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: they have a Joel Embiid problem, not that Joel Embiid 463 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: as a Philadelphia seventy six Ers problem. 464 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: I agree. 465 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 4: I think it is a Joel Embiid problem. There is 466 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: a code, obviously, you want to keep everything in house. 467 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: I think every coach that comes in, every GM that 468 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: comes in, will want to tell their players and trickle 469 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: down from top to bottom. We keep everything in house. 470 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: That's part of the code, right, And so when you 471 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: have these leagues happen, they happen all the time. They've 472 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: happened about me in certain situations in New York, and 473 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: I've seen it happen to other players, right, So I 474 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: know what that feeling is and what that feels like. 475 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: It feels like betrayal. 476 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: It feels like man to man, if you want to 477 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: come to me and you have a problem, let's do that, 478 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 4: Let's do it that way where that would be I'm 479 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: sure where Embid's coming from. He feels like he's been 480 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: the face of that franchise for a long time. He 481 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: feels slighted, and now he wants to show his dominance 482 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: as that number one guy. Right, That's not their approach 483 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: to take. I'm not saying Embid, it's right here, but 484 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: I understand where it's coming from now. But that being said, now, Embiid, 485 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 4: if you are really serious about being the leader of 486 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: any franchise, because I don't think it's going to be 487 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: Philly for much longer unless there's no other place he 488 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: can go, and I think that would be the only 489 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: only reason he's still there. But if you want to 490 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: mend that situation and be a leader of men, show up, 491 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: take your lumps. That's part of it as well, Like 492 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 4: you have to understand that it's even with the praise 493 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: that comes with being that guy, there's going to be 494 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: the other side of that as well, where people question you. 495 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: People are gonna make you or expect you to be 496 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 4: the guy that stands up all the time and at 497 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: least attempts to do the right thing, because we're not 498 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: going to do the right thing all the time, but 499 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: attempts to be that way. And if they can't trust you, 500 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 4: if your second best player is the one that's in 501 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: the team meet and telling people and specifically you you 502 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: need to be on time and be a certain way 503 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: in the meetings, that's a good that's a good problem 504 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: to have when it's in the house like that, because 505 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: if you can't question your top players and you're and 506 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: you don't feel like there's no a chain of communication there, 507 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: that team's not going anywhere. And I think that's what 508 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 4: we've seen with Philly because as good as they are, 509 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: and have been in the Flame Mouse We've seen outside 510 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: of the injuries, you can tell that Embiid has has 511 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: been child has been childlike at certain times with being 512 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: the leader of that team. 513 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 2: Your point about Maxi being the second best player and 514 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: calling out the best player, I'm trying to think of, 515 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 2: like how that dynamic works. I don't know how Tyres 516 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: Maxie could do it individually, you know, like he needs 517 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: the backing of the other teammates to be like to 518 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: get to that level, because if it's a one on one, 519 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: now you're one and two, maybe aren't seeing an eye 520 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: to eye because you have no no idea on how 521 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: the one is going to react and you don't, so 522 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: then you think you're doing the right thing, like Maxi is. 523 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: You have this meeting and he speaks up. I don't 524 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: think it's cowardly on his point, and I think that 525 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: some people would think like that, like, well, if you 526 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: felt that, why did you have to do it in 527 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: front of your teammates. I think it's because of the 528 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: power and what Joel Embiid carries. So I have no 529 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: idea how Tyres Maxi would be able to do that 530 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: in a different setting that didn't have the backing of 531 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 2: those players. But what I find interesting about this is 532 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: the leak on this seems to have Joel Embiid not 533 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: wanting to take responsibility, like he's more mad about the leak. 534 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: It was like when Draymond punched Jordan Poole with the Warriors. 535 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: The Warriors were way more worried with how the video 536 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: came out than the actual punching of one player to another. Again, 537 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: I haven't played at your level, but as I'm sitting here, 538 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: I get the lack of trust or how that came out. 539 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: There's a physical act and something to do with it. 540 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: But yet you just had your all NBA player punch 541 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: a possible future star of your team. Yes, that is 542 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: the problem. You could tell me all you want that 543 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: leaks and this and that or the problem, but it's not. 544 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: That is the problem. And that's the thing that I 545 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: feel with Joel Embiid here. He's using the leak as 546 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: an example to cover up why he was actually late 547 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: in doing all those things. And I think that's garbage. 548 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: And that's the part that I that I don't like 549 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: about it. It made me difficult. The bigger man would 550 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: have said, you know what, I was late I was 551 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: right for getting or they were right for calling me 552 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: out on that. I am the face of the franchise. 553 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: I gotta do better. That to me goes a lot farther. 554 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it wouldn't in Philly, I don't know, but 555 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: that goes a lot farther than anything that Joel Embiid 556 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: could have done, including this interview. Just admit it, you know, 557 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: if you're late or not. Yeah, you know, that's that's 558 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: all he had to do, and he couldn't even do that. 559 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: I agree with you, but I don't. I don't think 560 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 4: that needed to be addressed because I think that's we all. 561 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 4: I mean, there's obviously truth to that, So him saying it, 562 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even We've never seen him do 563 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: anything like that, So I don't think that's part of 564 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 4: who he who he is. For him, he's always been 565 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 4: a little. 566 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: I don't. I hate saying the word sensitive. I don't like. 567 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 4: I don't like it, but to say it to prove 568 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 4: the point right now, he seems like those things would 569 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 4: hurt him, and so if he feels hurt, he's going 570 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: to react the way that he knows how, and he 571 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 4: hasn't been he hasn't had to be somebody that's responsible 572 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: or somebody that takes that blame. Ever, we haven't seen that. 573 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's the thing is if you you 574 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: take the blame for it, you also take control of 575 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: the narrative. Sure, like you take control of I am 576 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: guess what I Yeah, I was, I was late. Maybe 577 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: I got too big for my breeches. Again, something we've 578 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: never heard from an NBA or professional athlete I think 579 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: in history. However, that is a way that this could 580 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: be handled better. And I remember one time a well 581 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: known journalist told me that they wrote a piece that 582 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: was kind of calling out a player, and the head 583 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: coach of that team went up to the to the 584 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: to the writer and said, hey, I read I read 585 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: your piece about so and so. 586 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. It's right on. 587 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: We need to light, you know, a fire under like 588 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely what's going on. 589 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: He's not getting the message. 590 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: And by putting it out in public, they felt that 591 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: it was their only way to do so that may 592 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: have been the case, and I actually think that could 593 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: have been the case with Joel Embiid. But Joel Embiid 594 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: is so hung up on who leaked the story that 595 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: maybe This is a reason why the seventy six ers 596 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: just haven't been able to fulfill their maximum potential with 597 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: him there, aside from his injuries and other things like. 598 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: That's what's like ultimately at the core is he still 599 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily get it or isn't mature enough to accept 600 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: responsibility for his actions. 601 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: It's immaturity for sure. And that part sucks because he's 602 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: been there long enough. Now he's he's married and got 603 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: kids like that, that energy should have shifted a while ago, 604 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: and so he's still stuck in whatever, whatever his feels 605 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: are with that team. 606 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: He's carry Roads. 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Summer League, wrapping up 616 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: in so much more. He's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer 617 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: in for Doug here on Fox. Thanks for listening to 618 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. 619 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three 620 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: to five eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 621 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gotlieb Show at 622 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: Foxsports Treaty dot com, or stream us live every day 623 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 624 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. He's the all pro 625 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Bayer. You can hear Carry Sunday 626 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: he and Moncie Belanios five eastern, two Pacific. You're Carry 627 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: and I during the NFL season in our late window, 628 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: you guys will be joined by NFL insider Adam Kaplan 629 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: every as you are every Sunday. Adam is actually gonna 630 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: be with me this Sunday. Mike Harmon is off with 631 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: the the daughter off at a soccer tournament. So Adam 632 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Kaplan's gonna sit in with me for two hours noon eastern, 633 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: nine Pacific. 634 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, look at you guys. 635 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: Yes, skinning football, you know, getting that football fever as 636 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: we kind of start to transition from hoops into the 637 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: pig skin. But that's going on this Sunday. He's carry roads, 638 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: Fine the met carry twenty five roads. You can find 639 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: me at Dan Byer on Fox joining us now, longtime 640 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: NBA correspondent. You hear them weekly here on Fox Sports Radio. 641 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: Find him on X at the Steinline. Mark Stein joins us. Mark, 642 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you again. 643 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: How are you, guys. 644 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 6: I'm good. Football is good. 645 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: There, We are doing well. 646 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: And I Carrie and I were just having a conversation 647 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: about Joel Embiid and the piece that came out earlier 648 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: this week. I know the Sixers aren't on the forefront 649 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: of everyone's mind with Bradley Beal, deal and Lebron and whatnot, 650 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: but can you take a temperature of the seventy six 651 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: ers because I just it rubbed me the wrong way 652 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: and feeling or in reading that Joel Embiid's like this 653 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: leak in the meeting means I'm taking no more or 654 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: taking part in no more player meetings. James Harden doesn't 655 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: talk to me this and that. Where are we with 656 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: the Sixers and specifically with Joel Embiid right now? 657 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 6: Well, let me first say, it was an incredible article, 658 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: really really good profile with just tons and tons of stuff, 659 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 6: So kudos to the author. It was fantastic, fantastic story. 660 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 6: But look, I think the Sixers have made it super 661 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 6: cool that you know they're going to they want to 662 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 6: give the Joe El Embiid, Paul George, Tyrese Maxi trio 663 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 6: at least one more chance to try to achieve what 664 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 6: they thought that trio could achieve. I mean a year 665 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 6: ago at this time, all of us know it, alls 666 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 6: were saying that the Sixers won the off season. You know, 667 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 6: they Darryl Morey convinced Tyreese Maxi please hold off a 668 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 6: full season before signing an extension. Trust us, we're going 669 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 6: to use the space that that creates to go sign 670 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 6: a really good player. They signed Paul George away from 671 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 6: the Clippers. Paul George was the only All Star last 672 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 6: summer to change teams in free agency without a trade, 673 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: and everybody was praising the Sixers. And then this season obviously, 674 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: this season obviously was just completely completely you know, everything 675 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 6: that could go wrong did go wrong. And look, I 676 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 6: can understand if there is apprehension in Philadelphia because we 677 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 6: just learned this week that Paul George required another arthroscopic 678 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 6: surgery on his knee, So we don't even know if 679 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 6: we're going to see Paul George at the start of 680 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: training camp. We don't really know. As great as that 681 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 6: piece was, what kind of health the Sixers are going 682 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 6: to see from Joel Embiid this season. So even though 683 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 6: the Sixers got the third pick in the lottery, we're 684 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 6: able to draft Edgecomb like that was obviously a great 685 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 6: outcome for them, But there are so many unanswered questions 686 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 6: about this team, and it really does all start with Embiid. 687 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 6: I mean, they need d Embiid, who won the MVP. 688 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 6: If Philly's going to do anything, they have to get 689 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 6: him back to that level, and that obviously starts with 690 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 6: keeping him on the floor. So yeah, I think you're right. 691 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 6: People maybe aren't talking about the Sixers now, but when 692 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 6: the season starts in late September, I think a lot 693 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 6: of people will be talking about the Sixers. 694 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: Mark. 695 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 4: It's crazy because yes, you just hit on so much 696 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: with that team, But also, I mean, I don't know 697 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: what their deal is with Quinton Grimes and is he 698 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 4: still a free agent or I don't I don't know 699 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: if he's still a free agent or not, but that piece, 700 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: that scoring piece, I think he can actually fill in 701 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: for Paul George very very admirably. I don't And they 702 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: also getting Jared McCain back as well, so I think 703 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: they're loaded on the wing as far as potential replacements 704 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 4: for Paul George as well. I mean, not to that degree, 705 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: but to steady the ship. If Joel Embiid is him 706 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: is his regular self, I could see that still being successful. 707 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 4: But I want to talk about where they are right 708 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: now Embiid and you know, he came out and MAXI 709 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: challenged him and had the thing happened in the team meeting, 710 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: Like where is that relationship at right now? 711 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 6: I really haven't sense that there's any lingering issues. I mean, 712 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 6: it's always been described to me that they have a 713 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 6: good working relationship and like each other, So I don't 714 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 6: really see that as an issue. I mean, you know, 715 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 6: Joel obviously in the piece voice that he's still you know, 716 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 6: his displeasure with the team meeting and how it all 717 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 6: leads out. I mean, he made that clear that he's 718 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 6: not ready to put that in the rear view mirror, 719 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 6: and so you know, that is something that the Sixers 720 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 6: have to manage. But I do think health and winning 721 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 6: can change a lot and fixed a lot, and again 722 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 6: it's got to start with health. Now you mentioned Grimes. 723 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 6: Quinton Grimes is a restricted free agent, and restricted free 724 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 6: agency is always tough on the players who have that status. 725 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 6: But this summer, especially kuminga hide in Chicago, Grimes, Cam Thomas, 726 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 6: and Brooklyn. I mean, there's just no cap space for 727 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 6: any of these guys. The expectation has been that Philly 728 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 6: is going to bring Grimes back. I don't think Philly 729 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 6: would have lost kershan Yabuselli in the manner they did 730 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 6: to the Knicks if they didn't think they were going 731 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 6: to be able to re sign Quentin Grime. So it's 732 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 6: moving slow, but I do think Rhymes will be back 733 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 6: of the Sixer. 734 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: Mark Stein joining us here on Fox Sports Radio talking NBA. 735 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan byer in for Doug. You 736 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: can get this Steinlein mark substack at Markstein dot substack 737 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: dot com. If you don't trust me, trust the over 738 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: forty four thousand subscribers that he has. The big news 739 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: yesterday was Damian Lillard back in Portland. How How long 740 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 2: has this been in the work since his buyout from 741 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: the Bucks and does this set does this set a precedent? 742 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if there is one, but I said 743 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: Lebron James, now his only option is to go back 744 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: to Cleveland. But how long has this been going on, 745 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: these conversations between these these these two old partners in 746 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: Portland and Dame. 747 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 6: I would say, I think Games probably had longing for 748 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 6: being back in Portland ever since he left, because the 749 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 6: Milwaukee move just didn't go to plan. And you know, 750 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 6: it was a brutal two seasons, two injury filled seasons 751 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 6: for the Bucks, and it just it just never came 752 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 6: close to working the way they hoped. And you know, 753 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 6: I said this yesterday, I am an incurable basketball romantic. 754 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 6: I love that Dame went back there. I love that 755 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 6: he has such strong feelings for Portland and that fan 756 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 6: base and that is his home. I mean, he's obviously 757 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 6: from Oakland and a Bay Area guy, but like he was, 758 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 6: he really really connected and embraced the Portland community and 759 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 6: that's why it was such a shock to the system 760 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 6: when he left. And look, he's realistically probably not going 761 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 6: to be able to play this coming season, but the 762 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 6: fact that he and the Blazers have put aside whatever 763 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 6: animis was going on that you know, led to the 764 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 6: trade request and led to the parting of the ways. 765 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 6: Know they've they've put that aside. And you know, when 766 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 6: when Dame Lillard plays his first game again in Portland 767 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 6: as a Blazer, that's going to be a pretty special night. 768 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 6: And they still love him, and I think a lot 769 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 6: of people in the Pacific Northwest are really glad he's back. 770 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 5: And look, he could have gone to a lot of places, 771 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 5: I mean, Boston market, Dane becoming an unrestricted free agent, 772 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 5: like he had no shortage of options, So that tells 773 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 5: you just how strong. 774 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 6: He feels about Portland and wanting to go back. 775 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's pretty evident, Mark. I mean, 776 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 4: Portland's affinity for him must have been strong as well, 777 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: because they didn't have to pay him the number that 778 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 4: they paid him as well, So I think there's a 779 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 4: obviously no love loss in that situation. But I want 780 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: to move on from from one one superstar going back 781 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 4: home to Dan just said it. He mean, Lebron going 782 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 4: on back to Cleveland would be kind of poetic. I think, 783 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 4: from both of our opinions, but is there any realistic 784 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 4: option of him leaving LA this year at all? 785 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 6: Not as we speak. I mean, I'm never gonna I'm 786 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 6: never gonna say never, because you know, we just saw 787 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 6: the Luca trade, which shocked everyone and nobody was ready 788 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 6: for it. And even the way free agency started, you know, 789 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 6: when free agency started at six pm Eastern on June thirtieth, 790 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 6: I think if you polled twenty seven twenty eight front offices, 791 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 6: let's make it twenty nine because I think the Pacers 792 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 6: would have been on that list too. I don't think 793 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 6: any of them would have said that they thought Miles 794 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 6: Turner was going to end up in Milwaukee, but that happened. 795 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 6: So this is the NBA. We do see surprises, we 796 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 6: do see we do see curveball. But the reality is 797 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 6: it's a trade. When you're making fifty three mil and 798 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 6: the Latekers don't want to take long term salary back 799 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: and Lebron James possesses a full note trade clause, there 800 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 6: are just so many things that complicate the prospect of 801 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 6: a trade. And then that is you know, people have 802 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 6: been thrown around buyout, buy out, buy out, like why 803 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 6: would the Lakers just buy Lebron out? And let him 804 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 6: walk to the team of his choosing on a minimum 805 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 6: after getting a pile of cash, and the Lakers get 806 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 6: nothing back for a guy who is still an All 807 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 6: NBA selection next season. That doesn't make sense for the Lakers. 808 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 6: The Lakers want to honor him and you know, treat 809 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 6: him well, and they are grateful for the role he 810 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 6: played in not only bringing a championship to LA. But 811 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 6: you know, people are going to quibble about it was 812 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 6: in the bubble, this is that, But the reality is 813 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 6: the six seven years before that title in the bubble 814 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 6: in October twenty twenty were the worst six or seven 815 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 6: years of the Lakers' existence in Los Angeles. It was 816 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 6: the worst period it in franchise history. So they are 817 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 6: grateful to Lebron James for what he's done. But I 818 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 6: would submit that having someone on a fifty three million 819 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 6: dollar last season contract isn't the worst way to show 820 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 6: that you're grateful. I mean, he is making a substantial salary, 821 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 6: and you know, it's it's there, but I just it's 822 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 6: really at this point, it is very difficult to see 823 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 6: how you know, it's very difficult to envision a scenario 824 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 6: where Lebron is not a Laker, But again I'm throwing 825 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 6: out the disclaimer that this league is a circus. 826 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: Mark Stein joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Last 827 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: one for me. Adam Silver seems to be very slow 828 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: on what should I take that back? Adam Silver addressed 829 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 2: expansion this week, saying nothing's predetermined. I don't want to 830 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: say slow, but nothing was redetermined? 831 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? 832 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: Are we all wrong that it's Vegas in Seattle? At 833 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 2: some point? Where are we on expansion? I've heard rumblings 834 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 2: at James Dolan trying to get other owners up against it, 835 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: but where are we on the league expanding from thirty teams? 836 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 837 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 6: Look, I think I think you summed it up really well. 838 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 6: Nobody wants to believe it. But this is not like 839 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 6: gonna just happen next season. Like there there are voices 840 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 6: in the league who have reservations because again, you know, 841 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 6: you you bring in two teams and you have to 842 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 6: give away some you know, the NBA's this. We're entering 843 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 6: year one of the NBA's new TV deal eleven years, 844 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 6: seventy six billion, and so you have to work out 845 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 6: what kind of slice do these expansion teams get, and 846 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 6: so how high does the expansion see have to be 847 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 6: I mean Vegas and Seattle are going to be at 848 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 6: the forefront of the conversation. I mean, those are going 849 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 6: to be the two cities that everyone focuses on first. 850 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 6: But look, the league had, the league does have, you know, 851 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 6: I don't foresee. I think it would be really hard 852 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 6: for logistics re logistics reasons to have a team in 853 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 6: Mexico City. But that is something that the NBA has 854 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 6: kept on the table. It's a market that means a 855 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 6: great deal to the NBA, and if they can ever 856 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 6: figure out a way to put an NBA team there 857 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 6: that works, they would love to do it. That's the 858 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 6: question they have to explore is that feasible? So you know, 859 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 6: I think Adam Silver has repeatedly tried actually to say, guys, 860 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 6: you know this is we're just starting this process and 861 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 6: nobody wants to believe it. But it's it's not just 862 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 6: a matter of now. On the flip side, the reason 863 00:43:53,480 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 6: expansion would be attractive to the owners is typically expansioncyse 864 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 6: go to the owners that's not revenue shared with the players. 865 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 6: So that would be the case where they would want 866 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 6: to welcome in two teams paying a really high expansion Pee, 867 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 6: But I do think eventually it's going to happen, but 868 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 6: I think it's going to take a lot longer than 869 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 6: probably the general consensus would tell you. 870 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 4: Mark, I got one more for you. We haven't even 871 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 4: got to this yet. And this is obviously I think 872 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 4: a big deal. But Bradley Bill go on to the Clippers. 873 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 4: I know we had a lot of people aren't talking 874 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 4: about it, but what do you what do you see 875 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 4: his role being with that team? Will it be like 876 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: the Norman Powell role, come off the bench or will 877 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 4: he be in the starting lineup? What do you think 878 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: that that fits going to look like? 879 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 6: I have to say, I really like what the Clippers 880 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 6: are doing. I mean the last two you know, we 881 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 6: started this conversation by talking about Paul George. You know, 882 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 6: the Clippers made the decision to just let Paul George 883 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 6: go without compensation, and they did that because they wanted 884 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 6: future flexibility. And they decided that this last season, in 885 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 6: this season and they were going to sign players to 886 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 6: short term deals, they wanted to be as competitive as 887 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 6: they can in the short term, but maintain future flexibility 888 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 6: for their next big swing, most likely in the summer 889 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 6: of twenty seven. But again, you know, they have made 890 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 6: some really nice moves around the edges. You know, again, 891 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 6: Bradley Beal is an unrestricted free agent where he's no 892 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 6: longer carrying a massive contract. Ye there was a line 893 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 6: of teams out the door that wanted him. Lakers, Bumps, Warriors, Wolves, 894 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 6: they all wanted Bradley Beal. Clippers got him. They brought 895 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 6: him book Rook Lopez. They've replaced Norman. You know, they 896 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 6: didn't want to give Noran Powell an extension, but they 897 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 6: were able to turn that into John Collins's expiring contract. 898 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 6: Like they are going to be a tough out in 899 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 6: the West this coming season. 900 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 3: I think he's Mark Stein. 901 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: You hear him every week here on the Doug Gotlive 902 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. Again, Mark Stein dot substack 903 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: dot com, get the Steinline all the inside information that 904 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 2: you need there. Mark appreciated. Have a great weekend. We'll 905 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: talk to you again soon. 906 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 6: All the best guys, be good.