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Speaker 1: The NBA Finals continue to deliver elevated heartbeats and getting

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Speaker 1: us out of our seats with every game and where

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Speaker 1: talk about it all not but I you know, got

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Speaker 1: because we have a very special guest co host up

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals file and producer of some show called

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jackot Matt Boostie's Jabari Davis. I'm Miles Gray

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Speaker 1: and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles and Jack

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Speaker 1: got boost heer Berg con Jabari's face as we're doing

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Speaker 1: has chosen to do for a living, is to be

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Speaker 1: involved with two clowns. I do always like to look

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Speaker 1: the a k. S on our show Daily Zeitgeist, where

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Speaker 1: Why am I here? But it's also fun to watch

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Speaker 1: the producer's face because they are also tied to this.

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Speaker 1: People are either instantly panicked or immediately get that as

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Speaker 1: that about the Jabari. How you feeling about the finals?

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Speaker 1: We got what we just had game five as of

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Speaker 1: this recording, game six coming up. When you hear this

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Speaker 1: to day Thursday, Um, let's see. So we gotta cover three,

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Speaker 1: four and five basically since our last episode three four

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Speaker 1: or five? Yeah, why was six afraid of five? Because

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Speaker 1: three four five doesn't work for them? Series of numbers?

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Speaker 1: More five? There it is. I don't think we're going

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Speaker 1: be going to a Game seven. That would be predict

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah. I feel like off the strength of

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Speaker 1: very possible. So the Celtics in six, first theory that

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Speaker 1: you had, when did that change became impossible? That changed

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Speaker 1: with about three minutes left to go in the game.

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Speaker 1: I continue to be all right, So I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm alone in this. I continue to feel like when

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Speaker 1: the Celtics are at their high point, it's better than

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Speaker 1: any team I've seen in the NBA. This whole season

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Speaker 1: is like that because of how dominant they are on

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Speaker 1: in various NBA text threads, and like most of them

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Speaker 1: were only lit up when the Celtics went from down

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Speaker 1: twelve at the half too down two within like it

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Speaker 1: was literally less than two minutes. Like, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know that is still my big takeaway is every time

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Speaker 1: looked so good when they have it go. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: came into the series is thinking that like, if both

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Speaker 1: like he had the edge. But you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: anytime you know you have not necessarily two completely opposing teams,

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Speaker 1: whoever is able to you know, impose their will more

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Speaker 1: and you know whatever, let's see if we can if

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Speaker 1: I can work in eight or nine more um uh

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Speaker 1: but what I but I actually agree with you, jack Um.

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Speaker 1: When we've seen both of their best, it still feels

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Speaker 1: like the Celtics are the better team. Yeah, Like because

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Speaker 1: And it felt like then they were like just resorting

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Speaker 1: And those shots are far too Gary, Sayton pops it away,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw it. Somebody said,

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Speaker 1: don't know why this keeps going off. It's my daughter.

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Speaker 1: She needs to stop. It is Marcus Thompson. Different game stuff.

427
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Speaker 1: You've been driving a lot, got him called back. Repeat

428
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, got him great moment. Good job, good job,

429
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Speaker 1: good job, good job stuff. I hope you're happy. Wow, Steph,

430
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: you embarrassed me. We're just trying to do not being

431
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Speaker 1: able to take it at all. You know, my daughter

432
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: was actually locked out of the house and it was raining. Okay, Wow, Stef,

433
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: you want to take that again? You want to? I

434
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: would have played it. That's how I don't really lifted

435
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: on him. I get I get it, I get it. Yeah. Well,

436
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: one of the great superstars any history. Just everything, great love, love.

437
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: The addition of like, all right, so I'm gonna be

438
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Speaker 1: putting up forty three in the finals game, but I'm

439
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna like look really nice while I'm doing it. Like

440
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like be smiling and just seem like a

441
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: nice person while I'm doing it. That's kind of cool. Yeah,

442
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's kind of neat. That's

443
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: my that's my take. I gotta be honest with you.

444
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: What what I love most about Steff, and I'm not

445
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: taking anything away from you know, prior or past superstars,

446
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: is that he's kind of a psychle on the court,

447
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: but also one of the nicest guys off the court,

448
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: like a Miles's point, you know, he's he's giving, like

449
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: in those situations and you know, yeah, you don't necessarily people. Yeah, well,

450
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: I think also too, just like I think just being

451
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: in comedy, you're you're really aware when people are generous

452
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: with their laughter, because that's like a really big part

453
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: of like having a good exchange with somebody. Like there

454
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Speaker 1: are people who don't laugh at all that stuff, and

455
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Speaker 1: you're like, whoa that stingey with your laughter, But there's

456
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: like a generosity to it that I'm like, see because

457
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: by doing that you're extending m hmm, yeah, especially growing

458
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: up being one of the best basketball players in the world. Like,

459
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: I feel like you're instincts could go in the direction

460
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Speaker 1: of being like dismissing something like where you have to

461
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Speaker 1: have the last one and like you're trying to one

462
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: up everyone all the time, because that's just how the

463
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: dynamic can be because you're gravitationally, you know, a neutron

464
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: star in every room that you've been in your whole life.

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Speaker 1: And for him to just be nice, um, yeah, it's

466
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Shall we uh do some little rapid fire questions.

467
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: I think we should do some big rapid fire questions.

468
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: This is a segment that was invented by Jabari, but

469
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen how he holds up under the rapid

470
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: fire of their questioning gun. Yeah, okay, let's start. Hold on,

471
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: let me do that. Whoa wow, hold on think Hey,

472
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: that's my line take him away toys. You know, honestly,

473
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Speaker 1: I actually apologize for that because normally I'm muted in

474
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Speaker 1: this That is where I'm saying, you gave me a

475
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: moment to be Chief Wigham there, so I appreciate that.

476
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Speaker 1: Start the claw Miles has pissed Jabari Jabari. You can

477
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Speaker 1: have any three throwback jerseys. Which three are you choosing?

478
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta go old school. But if he

479
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: was just totally stumped, yeah, right off the bat. No,

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00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I want an old,

481
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: old school nine eight seven Lakers jersey. Okay, big l

482
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: whether it's a magic you know, Kareem big game, Michael Cooper?

483
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: All right, you know what, let me get Michael Cooper. Okay,

484
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: you know defensive player Michael Cooper. Yea, sir uh Okay.

485
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: The abdual Jabbar version of this very jersey to my

486
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: second grade career day plus you should have because I

487
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: wanted to be a Kareem abdul Jabbar when I grew up,

488
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: in to a large extent, the Airplane actor, the guy

489
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: from Airplane. Yeah, he actually played a little ball pretty good. Okay. Nice.

490
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: He's a great author too, there shoulders. Yeah, okay, so

491
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: that's one eighty eight nuggets. Do you guys remember the

492
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: old and I wanted to be a fat leaver jersey,

493
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Speaker 1: like the blue with the you know, with the you

494
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: know you with with the logo underneath. Yeah, yeah, you

495
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: want one of those? Okay, And honestly, just because as

496
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Speaker 1: a kid, I should like love the fact that his

497
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: nickname was fat, Like I was like Fat leaver Man.

498
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: That's just amazing. And then idiot Nuggets is rainbow stripe horizontal? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

499
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: it looks like it's got a little of that eighties logo,

500
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: like eighties um design kind of vibes. Yeah, because it

501
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: looks like it's like an eight bit like computer. It's

502
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: like super block. The city looks like it could be

503
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: going by in the background on like you know a

504
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: video game, like a driving game that you're playing that

505
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: is like very low five right exactly, it's like going

506
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: by the Rainbow City. Okay, that's too. Brack is jogging

507
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: by it on the training thing from Tyson punch Out. Alright, fantastic, alright,

508
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: world go on, but I'm with you. Oh four black

509
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Speaker 1: kg Oh yeah that that that that black Tea Wolves

510
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: jersey back in the day for any black jersey. M okay, yeah,

511
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that one was pretty That one was pretty hard, as

512
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: we say in the West Coast. And to be clear,

513
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: it is specifically because Wesley Snipe told me to always

514
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: been on black there. Yeah, tree words, Drew words, Okay,

515
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: that wasn't quite rapid, but we still let's stay on pace.

516
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: The clock is still ticking. Can barely keep my dang

517
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: hat on. This thing's so quick, al right. The question

518
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: that I feel like it's gonna stump you ice Cube Jabari,

519
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: as you may know, has the Big Three. Tracy McGrady

520
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: has recently introduced his one's Basketball league. Is that one

521
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Speaker 1: on one we're just fact check, consult with my producer

522
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: real quick. Is that one on one, one on one league?

523
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: That's the guests to hold on it's one on one back.

524
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: So what would your alternative basketball idea consists of? I

525
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: want the dunk contest, but I want somebody underneath trying

526
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: to block it. I'll line them up. Rudy Gobert, you

527
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: say that you could shut check down, get get underneath

528
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: the rim. We we we saw it like an NHL

529
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: hockey shootout. Yes, basically that where it's like, all right,

530
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: you got the ball, there's the rim, what's good what

531
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: you got and none of these like five and six

532
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: and seven attempts, you get one try if you miss

533
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: your out next up. So basically we get mixed with

534
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: the dunk contest mixed with knockout that's what I would like.

535
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I like that because, yeah, we see a

536
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of the game of basketball being played, but what

537
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: about all the other ways we play basketball, like as

538
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: kids and younger people like shock out one uh, lower

539
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: the hoop to eight feet two one three on two

540
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: fast break drills from practice. That's like instant torture drama.

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00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I like, especially especially if your coach as

542
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: you continuing to be in the drill, like none of

543
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: us saying hey, you gotta learn uh, next up, the

544
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: clock is still taking. You're on a game show Jabari

545
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: with one million dollars on the line, and you can

546
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: call anyone to help you answer an MBA trivia question.

547
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: Who are you calling besides yourself? Because if this was me,

548
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I would be calling you. But who would you call?

549
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: That's who do the Ghostbusters called besides the two of you.

550
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: Let's see, don't come wow, you know what you got jokes? Now,

551
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of cheating. But Robert Keith

552
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Ory should introduce you to my good friend Robert or um, yeah,

553
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: oh you know him, you introduced. He's kind of the

554
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: reason we met. Oh that's nice. Yeah, he's a good guy.

555
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: He too would get along. Why is he just it's

556
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: it's everything encyclopedic with him or what he's pretty I

557
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: mean he for what however he did it. I don't

558
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: know whether he really researched or you know, he just

559
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: knew it. But each final series that we went through,

560
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: it pretty much was you know, he was breaking down

561
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: the second quarter of the game, blah blah blah, and

562
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, let me go to my notes,

563
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: let me go to YouTube. That's one of my favorite,

564
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: like the this happens with movies to where you like

565
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: find out that an actor or a director like watches

566
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: every movie knows every like piece of like you know,

567
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: fans service the information about it and like that. That

568
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: just add something like he, I don't know, there's a

569
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: there's a genius there. He must know. He must have

570
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: figured something out because, like we said, his ability to

571
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Speaker 1: be in the exact right spot at the exact right

572
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: time and know exactly what was about to happen before

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Speaker 1: anybody else, Uh, you know, it takes a lot of

574
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Speaker 1: lass study. Alright, Bari go to arena or a ballpark, meal,

575
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: flash snack. I'm I'm pretty trash, so it's always gonna

576
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: be nachos whatever, the biggest nachos. You know, it's the

577
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: cheesier the better them. Give me some chicken on them,

578
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah that's fine too, you know, pulled pork.

579
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: You know. Hey, we're in business. Oh so you get

580
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: you get those big nachos at Staples. Absolutely, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Blank dot com arena m hm soon soon to be

582
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Speaker 1: nameless arena. What do they serve them in? Because I

583
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: know Dodger Stadium serves them in a batting helmet. It's

584
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: it's just in't a big plastic right, So they don't

585
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: like give you shocks shoe or something full of nana. Yeah,

586
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot of nacho. It's about the amount of

587
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: nachos because they're intimidating. When you see people walking around

588
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: the arena like that in the crypto dot com Arena

589
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: or whatever we call it. Um, I'm always like, I

590
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: always see it. I'm like, I could never finish that.

591
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: I go with the Roseby sandwich. Not mad at that.

592
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: What about you, Jack? Hold on, we'll ask the questions here,

593
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, how about you Jack? If you guys had

594
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: hot dogs? Okay, my favorite my favorite meat is hot dog.

595
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: What's your favorite animal? Hot dog. I like their bones,

596
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: um Jabari, what's the best basketball movie ever? You know,

597
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: people get on these types of shows and lie all

598
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: the time and mentioned things like Hoosiers or mentioned things

599
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: like no, the answer is white Man can't jump. Anybody

600
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: that has anything else to say otherwise, you know, you

601
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: know that's fine, because let's be real, it's just my

602
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: trash opinion. But White Man is still the one that

603
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: It's still the one that I watched more often than that.

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00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I like that you are not only claiming that that

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Speaker 1: is the best past Well movie ever, like with with Authority,

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: which I don't I happen to. You know, I think

607
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: that's probably in the right. You're also claiming that anybody

608
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: who says it's not as lying is knowingly lie. Yeah,

609
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. That is exactly what they're doing.

610
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: It's called jack glory. Come on now, Coach Carter was cool.

611
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch Sunset Parked in a lot of the

612
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: ones that I mean, Sunset Park What time is that

613
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get live? How to represent the um basketball?

614
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore and you get to name a coach as well?

615
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: How many faces on Rushmore? Four faces? We're gonna do

616
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: four players and then um, a coach is the statue

617
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: of liberty standing next to them, uh, for the for

618
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: this hypothetical scenario. So I'll just be straight up, there's

619
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: no way to narrow it down the four. So I'm

620
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: just gonna go with my four favorite players of all time.

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Speaker 1: That's the best magic Johnson Seaquille O'Neal, Charles Barkley m hm.

622
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: And it's so tough to leave the h If I

623
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: leave one of them off, give me Kobe, okay, And

624
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: I want I want them. I don't want them coach

625
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: by Phil, I want them coach by Ryles. You are doing,

626
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: you are doing, we are we We already wrapped up

627
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: the series early, doesn't matter. Three hour practices, let's go. Yeah, okay,

628
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: So I noticed you left Fat Lever off. Sorry Fat, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Okay, Well there's the one the next that's

630
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: the one that honestly, that's the one where I was like,

631
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: I can't leave kream off. But yeah, well it's about

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Speaker 1: favorite players. And I think when people hear those kinds

633
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: of questions, we don't have to treat it as if well,

634
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: whoever he doesn't name is dead, like I like, if

635
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: you're not in my FOURD You're terrible. No, like you could.

636
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: I could probably have given you thirty of those. Yeah,

637
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: they're like songs, you know, they're they're different to every person.

638
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: All right, UM, let's take a quick break. We'll come

639
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: back to wrap this thing out and talk a little

640
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: bit about our good friend Robert dor Oh you know

641
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Robert do Yeah, great, great guy. I love him. And

642
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: we're back. Um. Robert Ory, friend of the podcast, was

643
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: kind enough to offer you as a guest on this

644
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: podcast and said, Wow, we would love to talk to

645
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: your cot. I'm explaining, Tavari, you have the distinct honor

646
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: to produce co host this show another fellow sister show

647
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: on the NBA uh slate here uh Finals File with

648
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: none other than our good friend, as we said, Robert Dory,

649
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: big shot bob um, none other than um. And I

650
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: just I think one of the things when I remember

651
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: when you first told me you were even doing this,

652
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: I was like what I'm not? I was like, can't

653
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: you do Matt Boosts? And I'll do I'll talk to him,

654
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: but there couldn't be someone better to speak with Robert

655
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Dory because like, just like you're saying, you would call

656
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: him for trivia. We look at you as someone with

657
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: a just an unbelievable amount of NBA knowledge and context history.

658
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: So for you working with Robert Ory, like, first of all,

659
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: how do you even how does that affect how you

660
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: even view like an analyzing basketball when you're bouncing ideas

661
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: off another like a champion like our friend of Robert Ry.

662
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: One of the things I appreciate most from him is

663
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: that he you know, he doesn't suffer fools, and he's

664
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: not going to just you know, like go along with

665
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: it simply because you know, like oh, you know we're friends. No,

666
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: he will let you know right away. No, that's a

667
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: very foolish way to look at it. That or or

668
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: or you're just giving a hot take or you know,

669
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: or stay off, you know, stay off of those debate shows.

670
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: What he has done is basically just made me look

671
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: at it as a simple game of basketball. Is as

672
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: opposed to like trying to you know, come up you

673
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel or come up with something you know,

674
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: like you know something you know, some crazy way to

675
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: describe it. Uh, He's a very basically just you know,

676
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: back to basics. We all you know, we all you know,

677
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: pick the ball. Up at one point. You know, we

678
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: all shot it, we all ribbled, we all understand these things.

679
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: And like he and basically given the way that his

680
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: career with I think that actually plays into it. It's

681
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: not that he's like, oh, well, like don't pay attention

682
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to the main guys, but he really really likes to

683
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: pay attention to the other guys on the court, or

684
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: the guys in particular that well, you know, can come

685
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: off the bench in a moment, you know, like you know,

686
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: like a game five of two thousand five and you

687
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: know put up twenty one second half points, you know,

688
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: second half and overtime points, right, just more of an

689
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: appreciation for detail. Do you want to tell people, like

690
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: what the what's the premise of the show. It's that

691
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: each episode you're covering a different finals. So every each

692
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: week we cover the finals, we give you to two

693
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: episodes per uh per per series. Uh. And it's basically

694
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: just a basketball nerd, you know. And and I you know,

695
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: like I say it, honestly, that's what I am. I'm

696
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: a guy that came up watching the game. And coincidentally,

697
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: this is a coincidence, Robert Orry was one of my

698
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: favorite players as well, Like because I always had an

699
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: appreciation for a guy that can do the things that

700
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: he did. But you know, you know, and this is

701
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: a call back to when you had Robert Ory on

702
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: the on the show, just like it was no big deal.

703
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Like it was just no big deal, you know, knocking

704
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: down what, you know, some of the greatest shots in

705
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: finals history, like it was nothing. Um but yeah, but

706
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: the premises, we we break down a series each week, uh,

707
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: you know, diving into diving into the matchup beforehand, then

708
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: breaking down each game. Uh. We have a you know

709
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: finals file awards where Robert you know, Robert Ory will

710
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: give his breakdown of the awards. Sometimes he goes with

711
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: who won the m v P or the the general awards.

712
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes he says, what nope, that was a total mistake,

713
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: and you know it throws out a surprise. But it

714
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: has been a It truly has been a fun experience

715
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: because you know, like I said, if there's anybody that

716
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about the NBA Finals with that's not

717
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: named Michael Jordan's Honestly, Robert Ory is not a bad

718
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, not a bad second out. Yeah, got some

719
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: good cameos, Like he's all over the place, It's like

720
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump of the Finals, what's the what's the best

721
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: thing you learned that you're allowed to talk about from

722
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: Because they've been a couple of things we've talked about

723
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: off Mike that we're very compelling. Also, you know, maybe

724
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: not things that we're talking about on Mike, um, but

725
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: hit us with the best thing. The best thing is

726
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: that knowing just how deep the eighties rivalry hatred you

727
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: know still runs, Big Game James was kind enough to

728
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: join us for to break down the series. Obviously it's

729
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Lakers versus Celtics. The Lakers, you know, work up, you know,

730
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: by significant amounts in the first four games, ended up

731
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: you know, dropping two of those games, and you know

732
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: in somewhat tragic fashion. Uh, and then I will ultimately

733
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: end up losing that series. But Big Game James, you know,

734
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: he comes on with us. You know, I'm asking him,

735
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, the generic questions, and I finally thought about it.

736
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: I was like, so, you know, basically what happened on

737
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: that play where you push Cedric you know, Cedric Maxwell

738
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: into the stands and I'm thinking he's gonna give a

739
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: generic answer like the you know, media frame the answer,

740
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: and he just he just lets it. Let you know,

741
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: he lets it be known that not only does he

742
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: still hate the Celtics, but any of them can still

743
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: get it. Uh we we we ended up having the

744
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: cutting room floor some of some of the conversation, but

745
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: just knowing like like, how seriously and obviously he's not

746
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: truly you know, wanting to fight, you know, but that

747
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: that competitive exactly, you know how true their competitive nature is.

748
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: And of the you know finals that you've covered so far,

749
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: is there a favorite series that you've talked about or

750
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: is there one that you wish you could talk about.

751
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: I'll give you both of those. So two thousand was

752
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: my favorite one specifically because I came of age obviously

753
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: watching that team up Pilson personal. I went to Game

754
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: two of those finals. Um, yeah who play? Who won

755
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: that one? It was the Lakers and you know the Pacers, Um,

756
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, you see Jafar and I'd be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

757
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the Pistons exactly. And then

758
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong that I could have given you

759
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: another one because was also absolute be fantastic. I had

760
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: actually forgotten how great of a series that was. It's

761
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: a series where you've got prime Jordan, Prime Barkley, you know,

762
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: hall of famers all over the court. You get a

763
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: triple overtime game in there, you get a showdown game

764
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: where both guys go over forty points. It was that

765
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: was fantastic. But if my if I'm answering, honestly, it's

766
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: two thousand again because like I said, I witnessed it

767
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: up close and personal. But to be able to get

768
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, actual insight from someone that you know played

769
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: in the series, yeah, you know, you know, had you

770
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: made a couple of you know, significant shots, especially in

771
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals. You know, in Game seven of

772
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: those Western Conference Finals, that was my favorite one, the

773
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: one that I wish that we had been able to

774
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: do and that I hope ultimately we are able to do.

775
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 1: It was a two thousand one series, and you guys

776
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: know why m hmm two thousand one. Now I'm not familiar,

777
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: but okay, um, don't remember that team? I mean anyway, wait,

778
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: know its a sixers, Um so who who the oh

779
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the seventies six ers? That's that's two thousand one doesn't

780
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: ring a bellas a year. So whether whether or not

781
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: you covered it, you want to cover it. You've talked

782
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot about your appreciation for the other guys who

783
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: are anchorman for their team and make people say don't

784
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: look up because they're right down here on the court. Um,

785
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: is there a underrated performance in in the finals, whether

786
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: it's one that you've covered or not that like you

787
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: just feel like people have slept on. Like I think

788
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Butler and the Bubble. Some of his games

789
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: were absolutely next level, like Herculean. I think people remember

790
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: like how tired he was by the end, but like

791
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: that was noteworthy because what he was doing on the

792
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: court was absurd. But like, who are some of your

793
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: underrated performances that you think people should talk more about.

794
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lead in with one that seems like I'm

795
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: being funny, but I'm not. Austin Crozier in the two

796
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: thousand finals was absolutely spectacular. Thank you. I right, somebody

797
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: needed to say it, and I'm happy to be the one. No,

798
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Austin Crowzer really was fantastic and end up you know,

799
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: getting paid as a result of it in those two

800
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: thousand finals. But uh, um, the microwave so obviously, you know,

801
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: like I was a kid in I watched the series,

802
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: but I didn't have it under a true understanding for

803
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: what I was watching. H the microwave. Vinnie Johnson was

804
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic in that series. Um, But what what also

805
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: leads me to I had no idea that Bill Lambier

806
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: could could shoot it so well from deep because, to

807
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I always just saw him as

808
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: a bruiser. In one game of those finals, he makes

809
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: either six or eight threes, like like he he was

810
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: going off. It was actually one of the games that

811
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: they know that the only game that they lost in

812
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: the series. But yeah, no, um, I love you know

813
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: your standout performances. Again, of course we know Jordan was

814
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: in uble in ninety three and we can go, you

815
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: know with the bigger guys. But that's why I let

816
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: in with awesome Crozier, because you know what, sometimes the

817
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: other guys need that love, not to men. Robert Ory

818
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: played that entire series after Game one with a hairline

819
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: fractury in his back. What oh man, what a time,

820
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: what a time back in those days? All right? And

821
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: last last question, am I am I wrong in thinking

822
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: like this is unique? I probably am. I think we

823
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: tend to remember the finals based on like who want

824
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: it right, and so like we might miss out on

825
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: some amazing performances by the team that didn't end up

826
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: pulling it through. But like, do you feel like this

827
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: year's Finals is unique in the sense that like the

828
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: Celtics are like it had. Do you have another example

829
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: of a team where like the team that is winning

830
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: the series doesn't seem like they have the highest high

831
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: point you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, that's

832
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: a tough one. It's a really good question that, Um,

833
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: it's tough. For whatever reason, twenty eleven still stands out

834
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: to me in that and that's not and that's not

835
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: taking anything away from that Maverick squad because they were

836
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, they were fantastic when they needed to be.

837
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: But you know, given the way that those fourth quarters

838
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: went for Lebron obviously, you know I would usually hesitate

839
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: to bring that up, but hey, I feel like he's

840
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: made up for that, you know, since then. But given

841
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: the way that he's had a pretty good run. Yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you heard, you heard of him. Yeah yeah, But there

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Speaker 1: were those flashes in that series of like what Miami

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Speaker 1: was about to do exactly, and for whatever reason they were,

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Speaker 1: they weren't able to put it together enough and you know,

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Speaker 1: end up losing that series, even though you know on

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Speaker 1: paper you definitely definitely would have all gone into that

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Speaker 1: series saying like, Okay, they're expected to win it, right well, Jabari,

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on, uh your own show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Miles and Jacko, thank you for coming on the Friends

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Speaker 1: of Robert Ry podcast. Thank you for having me, guys,

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Speaker 1: I really do appreciate it. All right. So by the

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Speaker 1: time you listen to this game six might be in

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Speaker 1: the books, the season might be in the books. Next

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Speaker 1: week's episode, we will know who won, and uh we'll

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Speaker 1: have more on that, then more Adam McKay plug, more

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Speaker 1: cramming in things about how shots were from so far.

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Speaker 1: We will be back next week, so we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you then and keep your eyes trained on the final

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Speaker 1: Bye bye