1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Why from our nation's camera, this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: to do nothing space forts. I still think it's interesting 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: President Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: politics colliding, Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The present has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: send him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: one and one oh five point seven F M h 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: D two U s m C A day and impeachment 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: day plus. Economists don't see really much any US growth 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: bump from the US China trade deal. We're dealing with 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: all of the impacts of trade week here in Washington, 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: d C. And of course that impeachment trial. Fresh reaction 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: tonight from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. It was a 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: historic day on Capitol Hill. Basically in one hour, the 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 1: perfect illustration of where we are politically as a nation. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: As you have a vote on U s m C 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: A the most significant trade deal that Congress has advanced, 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: a bipartisan trade agreement with the United States, Mexico, and Canada. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Occurring before noon, and then virtually minutes later, the impeachment 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: trial against President Donald Trump starting. And that's where we're 25 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna begin tonight with that impeachment trial. Uh. And I 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: wanted to play for folks what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: had to say, because there were some new developments overnight 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: and into this morning. The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office says 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: that the Office of Management and Budget broke the law 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: when it withheld more than two hundred million dollars in 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Ukraine military aide. So Speaker Pelosi had quite a lot 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: to say about this, and that's what where we will 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: start today. Here's the Speaker of the House. This is 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: just another avoiding of the facts and the truth on 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: their part. They don't want to see documents, they don't 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: want to hear from eye witnesses, they don't want they 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: want to ignore anything new that comes up. That was 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. Saraj hash Me's here. 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: It's his first time on Bloomberg Radio is Sound On. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: He's a conservative writer for the Washington Examiner Kevin Wallings 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: here as well, Democratic strategist at HD Creative Media Saraj. 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Senator Marshall Blackburn coming up, a 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Republican from Tennessee. This development with the g a O 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: and OMB didn't really move the needle much at all 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the Republicans that I spoke with today 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: up on Capitol Hill and and the White House barely blinked. 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: I think what they're pointing to right now is that 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: there the g a O might be nonpartisan, but they're 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: looking at whoever was appointed by it. And I think 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Lee Zeldon has accused the g AO of being run 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: by a Democrat, and so that they came to this 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: conclusion and light of the Senate trial to try that, uh, 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, put a stain on at least how the 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: Republican Caucus is handling the Senate trial because they're just 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: putting maximum pressure on trying to get witnesses forward. Yeah. No, 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: I agree with Sage and his point in terms of 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: the focus on witnesses. You know the g a O ruling, 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: it's an eight page ruling that came out today. Chris 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Fan Holland from Maryland requested the g AO to investigate this. 60 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: It's a nonpartisan body. No one really cares. Uh, folks 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the g a O does, is who's 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: on it. And so it's a talking point, right because 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's nothing burger in terms of moving The 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: reason I want to move quickly through it is because again, 65 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: no Republicans are saying, oh, bombshell, this is going to 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: change the trajectory of nothing will change that. And unless 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: unless that happens, you know, nothing to see here. The 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: markets barely moved on this. The none of the exchanges 69 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: are blinking. They're not even traders aren't even moving off 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: of any of these developments from O m B, from 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: g a O, from any of the developments you know 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: what they are trading on US M C A. But 73 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: where this does matter from a scheduling standpoint is the 74 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: presidential candidates. And look Senator Bernie Sanders, by the way, 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, before I even get to that hot Mike thing, 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: the handshake that was my goodness, we're going to talk 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: about that with Gredi van Sustern coming up. I gotta 78 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: get her take on that. But anyway, he's not going 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: to be able to be in Iowa. Neither is Liz Warren, 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: and neither is Amy KLOVI charge listen to Michael Bennett. 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: For Michael Bennett. I forgot about Michael Bennet, and that's problem. 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna own it at listen um tackle isn't Bernie 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Sanders because he's not too happy about this. Here's Bernie. 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: I would rather be in Iowa today, there's a caucus 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: there in two and a half weeks. I'd rather be 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: in the Hampshire um and in Nevada and so forth. 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: But I swore a constitutional oath. Interestingly enough, I was 88 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: originally on the fence about what the whole strategy was 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: in terms of Elsie delaying sending the articles of impeachment 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to the Senate. But now that I'm hearing more from 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Bernie sand there's hearing from these other Senate there's in 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: their frustration with the delay, it almost seems like pelosi 93 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: strategy was to try to throw off Bernie Sanders and 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren and the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. 95 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm at like eight ten and believing that, you know, 96 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: there's still there's still some belief that maybe it was 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: to try they you know forced Ms McConnell's hand, but 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, she's thinking about retaining the House 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and her down ballot races, and I think she I 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: think she believes that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren will 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: hurt the ticket. Sure, I mean I would agree with that. 102 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: You look at all that the folks that have endorsed 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: in this race that have flipped these Republican districts held 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: in that were Trump districts in eighteen, most of them 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: have come out if they've come at it all in 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: favor of of Joe Biden. I don't think there's malicious 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: intent In terms of the speaker. You look at the calendar. 108 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: It was always going to be a January hearing. Uh 109 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: that Senate gabbled back in for the year last Tuesday, 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: so it was delayed a week. Um, and they were 111 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: always going to be off the trail. You know, folks 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: are saying it's gonna be two week, three week trial. 113 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: So that was always going to be in the lead 114 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: up to Iowa. Unfortunately for these three serious contenders for 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: the nomination. Of course, Michael Bennett too running from Colorado. UM. 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: But but I don't think there's anything the Far East 117 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: in terms of this this Speaker's timeline all right, in 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: terms of just scheduling and where this goes from here. 119 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: President Trump has a deadline to respond to the charges, 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: So he's got to respond by six pm Eastern on Saturday, 121 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: according to the schedule that was adopted by the Senate 122 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: at the end of Thursday's session, and the House has 123 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: until five pm Saturday to file a trial brief. So 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: there's going to be more developments there and then sentiment already, 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Leader Chuck Schumer, he's going to try to force a 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: vote on whether or not to be able to get witnesses. 127 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: But it looks like this issue of witnesses Kevin Walling 128 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: is moving nowhere. Yeah, you know, I think the burden 129 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: is really on the seven nowhere. It's it's not going 130 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: to be succept the Democrats totens is not going to 131 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: be success. I disagree on that because I think we 132 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: have to let this process play out. The burden is 133 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: really gonna be on the seven House managers that the 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Speaker has has appointed. They're the best of the best, 135 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: and um Adam Schiff like him or not as really 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: effective in terms of not just getting under the present skin, 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: but really uh doing Yeoman's work when it comes to 138 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: prosecuting this case. So if they make a really compelling 139 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: case in the well of the Senate, uh and uh 140 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Democrats are out there. I'm out there talking every day 141 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: about the need for witnesses. The fact that we've had 142 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: fifteen impeachment hearings in the Senate before all fifteen of 143 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: these hearings had witnesses, had documents that were subpoena. I 144 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: think people are are are waking up to the fact 145 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: that a trial without witnesses is a sham trial. All right, 146 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: we got to hear from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: about those pens that Speaker Pelosi's sound are signed. I 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: guess signed that the impeachment articles with here sign A 149 00:07:54,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Majority Leader mich McConnell opposed afterwards for smiling photos and 150 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: the speaker distributed souvenir pants. Souvenir pants to her own 151 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: colleagues emblazoned with her golden signature that literally came in 152 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: on silver platters. That was sent a Majority Leader Mitch 153 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: McConnell speaking about the pens. Coming up much more on 154 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: trade policy, U S. M. C. A. Suraje Hashmi stays, 155 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Walling stays, I'll stay too, Kevin Cirelli, you're listening 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound on with Kevin Surreley 157 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven f m 158 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: h D two, Baltimore. I'm Kevin Sirelli, Chief Washington. Corresponded 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television in Bloomberg Radio. Enormous day on u 160 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: S m c A. The United States Mexico Canada trade 161 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: agreement that advanced out of the Senate and now it 162 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: will go the President Trump where he's likely going to 163 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: sign it. This was one of President Trump's key trade policies. 164 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: That comes, of course, less than a day after the 165 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: President inked that deal with China in the Phase one 166 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: trade deal. I spoke with several Republicans on Capitol Hill 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: following this vote and coming up we'll here from Senator 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: Marsha Blackburn, and they were incredibly happy that this issue 169 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: is is settled now with the usm c A. Saraj 170 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,239 Speaker 1: Hashmi's here. He's a conservative writer for The Washington Examiner. 171 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Walling returns Democratic strategist at h G Creative Media. 172 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Kevin just in terms of what is exactly is in 173 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: this deal. It's going to UH create more of a 174 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: trade balance with the United States and Mexico. It's also 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: going to change some of the regulations as it relates 176 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: to auto manufacturing UH. That that a lot of these 177 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: states Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, they're very happy about, Tennessee, 178 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the heartland states are very happy about. 179 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: I was the politically speaking to see Amy clob char 180 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: and Bernie sent Er. To see Amy Klobachar and Elizabeth 181 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Warren support this and Bernie Sanders opposed. This was quite striking. Yeah, 182 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: it was. It's you know, there were ten centers that 183 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: voted against all nine Democrats and one Republican. Actually, Pat 184 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: Toomey of Pennsylvania be interested to get his perspective because Pennsylvania, 185 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: as you noted, UH should stand to benefit it's auto 186 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: manufacturing UH state. I think one of the greatest things 187 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: to come out of this bipartisan deal is the enforcement 188 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: mechanisms in Mexico so that we can crack down on 189 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: UH factory farms that don't pay a living wage in 190 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: that country. There there are a lot of things to 191 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: celebrate about this deal. I commend the President I commend 192 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Speaker Pelosi for pushing hard for these environmental protections, for 193 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: these labor standards. It's a win all around. Well, do 194 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: you think, I mean, who shouldn't have passed? Yeah? Absolutely, 195 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm with the UH. I'm with the UH, 196 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: the camp that that voted overwhelmingly in the Senate and 197 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: and in the House with the Democrats to pass this. 198 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: And you look at some of the names that voted 199 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: against it, Corey Booker, Kirsten gillibrand Kamala Harris. Interestingly enough 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: of course Sanders that we talked about, but interestingly enough 201 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: to keV h the Democratic leader Chuck Schumer also voted 202 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: against that. Yeah, I'd be interested to hear his perspective 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: on this too. Of course, it was such a busy newsday, 204 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: so we really didn't get a readout really on U 205 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: s m c A from these senators just yet, but 206 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: to be interested to see why why they pushed back 207 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: so hard, I mean, and just from an economic uncertainty perspective, 208 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the U s m c A is projected, according to analysts, 209 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: to add point three five percent to GDP after six years. 210 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, but that said, coupled with the China trade 211 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: deal from yesterday. It's going to relieve a lot of 212 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: that economic uncertainty sarage. Just quickly, in terms of what 213 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: you're hearing from UH, from Republicans, what are they saying 214 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: about the U. S m C A quickly? Obviously they're 215 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: a big fan of the U. S M. S m C. 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that they were going 217 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: to get it past. It's always been the focus that 218 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: we get something done on China UH in the first 219 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: phase of that trade deal. I think is a bigger 220 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: win to get that signed over the U. S m 221 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: C at the moment. All right, Well, earlier today on 222 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television, I spoke with Senator Marshall Blackburn. She's a 223 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: Republican from Tennessee, one of the driving forces behind the deal. 224 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Take a listen to what she told me. What it 225 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: means for Tennessee is increased trade. Whether you're talking about 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: agriculture products pork, whether you're talking about auto manufacturing and 227 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: automobiles and aftermarket auto parts, when you talk about intellectual 228 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: property protections for our music industry, all of these are 229 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: things that are going to affect the state. And we're 230 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: so glad the U s m c A is across 231 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: the finish line and on its way to the president's death, 232 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: struck by the juxtaposition of the U S. China Phase 233 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: one trade deal happening literally less than twenty four hours 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: before U S m c A. That's too significant trade 235 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: victories and for the administration, and I'm curious where the 236 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: trade fight goes next. What I think you're going to 237 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: see is immediately beginning work on phase two of the 238 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: China trade deal. The China deal was so important our 239 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: soy producers, Uh, we're so uh. They were so focused 240 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: on this. Then you look at individuals that are in 241 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: the export industry with polly silicon and chemicals and things 242 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: of that nature. There were provisions that they needed. So 243 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: now strengthening those intellectual property protections on our entertainment products 244 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: and then also looking at ways to bring that trade 245 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: more into ballance. That's phase two. Also bear in mind 246 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: Japan went into effect January one. U S m c 247 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: A will be signed today, China signed yesterday. The UK 248 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: with Brexit, we will need to construct a deal with 249 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: them and a new deal with the EU, and I 250 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I think that those are the things that will be next. 251 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: The EU in a second. But just sticking with China 252 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: phase two, there seems to be non part of bipartisan 253 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: consensus on the issue of five G, on the issue 254 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: of fallwas and on national security. Do we have a 255 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: timetable in terms of one face who might happen before 256 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: after the election? Well, when we are dealing with Huawei 257 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: and with the five G deployment and with the utilization 258 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: of UH equipment for delivery of five G and the 259 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: consumer product that Huawei makes, what we are dealing with 260 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: there is great power competition when it comes to China 261 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: because there their commercial side and their military side are 262 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: basically one and the same. We know that we understand 263 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: that our allies, no one understand that. So finalizing this 264 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: issue with Huahwei where we disallowed this because we know 265 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: that they you're going to embed that malware and spyware 266 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: into that equipment. We can't have that into our operating systems. 267 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: So Hogan was here that Europe's Change chief earlier this week. 268 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: What do you want to see from Europe? What we 269 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: would like to see from them is availability of markets. 270 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Our producers and manufacturers all say give us trade UH. 271 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: That is what we won't give us a level playing feel, 272 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and when it comes to Europe, what we would like 273 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: to see is a level playing field. We know that 274 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: there are products of ours that they need. I think 275 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: also when we talk about energy as an export product, 276 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: when we look at that European market, when we know 277 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: that there are some of these countries that would like 278 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: to break a dependence on Russia, not do business with Iran, 279 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: we feel like that's an area of growth for us. 280 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: One of the things the markets wants to know. Just 281 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: final question for you on the issue of impeachment is 282 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: how long is this trial gonna last? When? When will 283 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: it be over with? The Senate is going to move 284 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: fairly and expeditiously through this process, I think a couple 285 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: of weeks. I didn't ask her about the Tennessee Titans. 286 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: I just I just realized that that was Senator Marsha Blackburn, 287 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Republican from Tennessee, speaking with me earlier on Bloomberg Television. 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: You can check out that full interview at Bloomberg tv 289 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: dot com. Coming up, Greta van Sustern, how would she 290 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: change the debate structure if she was moderating? We asked 291 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: her next. I'm Kevin Sirelli you're listening to Bloomberg. This 292 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg's sound on with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg one 293 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven of m h D two, Baltimore. 294 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: I think you called me a liar on National TV. 295 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: I think you called me a liar on National movie. 296 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Let's not do it right now. You want to have 297 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: that discussion, we'll have that discussion. You called meland You 298 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: told me, all right, let's not do one. Wow. Hot, 299 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Mike caught it. Senator Elizabeth Warren and Ernie Sanders speaking 300 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: after that Democratic presidential debate and de Moine the other 301 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: night and CNN they were still miked up, and then 302 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: they had this exchange over whether or not Bernie said 303 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: in that meeting that a woman couldn't be president. And yeah, wow, 304 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: gret Event Sessions on the phone line, Greta, I want 305 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: to talk about your Washington Post op ed, But I mean, 306 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: I gotta get you away in on this moment. What 307 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: was what do you make? Oh my god, they're human, 308 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: they're humans. They get angry, they get mad. Oh my, 309 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: And what here's another shocker. I used to say foxters 310 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: alert is the campaigns really get people off? Bust up 311 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's you know, it's interesting, but 312 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's like I have some sympathy for them, 313 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: since I've been known to lose my temper so I 314 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: live in a glasshouse, so whatever, you know, I get it. 315 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, it really is fascinating to see how 316 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: much this is totally rocked the race. And I'm curious 317 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: if you do you think that they're going to have 318 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: to somehow address this. We're gonna have to hear from 319 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: them at some point, because he was talking about maybe 320 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: President Obama could you know, summit a beer summit handle it. 321 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they want Obama to 322 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: be the moderator. I think they would need I don't know. 323 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't even know. Maybe AOC, maybe 324 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: AOC could do the beer summit, Greta. You know, I look, 325 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, temperat just get so raw in this time. 326 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I thought it was interesting and 327 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: I felt bad for them. I saw them as human 328 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: um and you know, I feel, you know, it's I 329 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: don't think it will change anyone's vote, so they don't 330 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: have to worry. All right, Well, you have a really 331 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: great op ed out in the Washington Post. It was 332 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: just posted, and I was I was talking about this 333 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: with you a couple of weeks ago, and I want 334 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: a quote from it, and then I want you to 335 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: break it down for for our audience. You say quote. 336 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: If I were a debate moderator, three days in advance, 337 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I would supply the candidates with a series of identical, 338 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: fact based problem scenarios. The scenarios would relate to real 339 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: issues facing the United States, such as healthcare, infrastructure, ran 340 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: North Korea, climate change, or cyber warfare, and then candidates 341 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: would consider how to respond to the scenario. So I 342 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: think this is interesting, Greted, because you're digging into your 343 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: law school chops and your lawyer chops, and you're essentially saying, Hey, 344 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: this is an exam, and it's an exam for the 345 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: in front of the entire nation. Yeah. Well, first of all, 346 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: what I propose is basically a take take home exam. 347 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: But think about this, The bar exam is one of 348 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: the most ridiculous things that you ever have to take 349 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: as a lawyer. Because I'm prised law for twelve years, 350 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: and now once in all those twelve years of the 351 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: client ever come into my office and say here's my problem. 352 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: Going to a closet. You've got three hours. Don't come 353 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: out to you have the answer. Make sure you don't. 354 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Don't consult anybody or look at a text or a statute. Okay, 355 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: that's especially what the debates are because but but what happened. 356 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: But the job, the actual job of the president in 357 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: the Oval office is when he's confronted with the problem 358 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: or she's confronted with the problem, that you can se 359 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: to your advisors, You think about it, you debate back 360 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: and forth with the Oval office, and come out and 361 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: you have a solution. And it may take hours. I mean, 362 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: it's thought, it's not. It's like it's like it's like 363 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: it's like having a driver's test for a cardiologist. We 364 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: were testing someone. We're testing these people on the stage 365 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: for a job. They're not trying to get there, trying 366 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: to become president. And that test. The debate format we 367 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: have doesn't test that. My idea, though, does test it 368 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: because it gives a problem in advanced identical problems and 369 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: they can come in and they can solve it. It It 370 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: also does one other things. It prevents the way I 371 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: want to do it. It prevents people from trying to 372 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: give you the moon, for instance, saying, look, everybody gets 373 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: free college. I mean that's a I mean, everybody love 374 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: free college. But the question is it ever going to 375 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: happen or is it practical? So if I Canada came 376 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: in said I'm gonna have free college for everybody, by 377 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the way, Bernie doesn't quite go that expanse becas I'm 378 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: not picking up them. But let's say free college for everybody. Well, 379 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: the question the moderator would be how much who's going 380 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: to pay for it? How do you get a passive 381 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: divided Senate and I've divided house and send it um, 382 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, and and and show that some of these 383 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: things you sometimes get sold the moon and they're not 384 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: going to happen. They're not practical. And so mine actually 385 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: gets to test that the actual things that that maybe 386 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: they can get done, and maybe they can do. And 387 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I just think we've got to change the whole process 388 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: because we have these debates don't tell us whether they 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: can be president or not. Democrats Gretivy had sessions on 390 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the line. She's the anchor of Great TV's Full Court 391 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Press and Voice of America's Plugged Ini. She of course 392 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: obviously has worked at Fox News for years as well 393 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: prior to that. And just quickly, you've been so generous 394 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: with your time, So I'll ask you one more question. 395 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: The reason I like this, Greta, is because I believe 396 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: that most folks who are watching the debate, they're hungry 397 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: for policy, They're hungry for details. They don't want to 398 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: be promised, you know, sound bites and tweets and on 399 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: social media. How about how about graphics with countdown clocks 400 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: and loves and all that stuff. No, I mean, it's 401 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: a far more serious to see. But you know, the 402 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: problem is, and this is not the candidate's fault, this 403 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: is not anybody's ultimately, but you're you know, you really 404 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: want to test someone on the job. And and and 405 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: the thing is that the job is one where you think, 406 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: you consult and you you know, and you give it 407 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: some time. It's not just sort of you've got sixty 408 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: seconds to solve the problems of North Korea that's been 409 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: going on for thirty years. I mean, that's ridiculous. Exactly 410 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: all right, Cretivan Sasha, And again she's got that new 411 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: show out, Great TVs Full Court Press, and she of 412 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: course now is a voice of America as well. I'm 413 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: plugged in Greta, my friend, thank you so much for 414 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: calling in and check out her off and and and 415 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: I have a great guest on Sunday, Kevin's really full 416 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: court Press. Thanks Greta. All right, I'll talk to you then. 417 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Uh panels here listening to that Kevin Walling, Democratic strategist 418 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: and uh Saraj Hashmih conservative writer at Washington Examiner. Uh, 419 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: what'd you guys think of that? You think the rules 420 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: should be changed for the debates? Rash Um. Yeah, I 421 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: mean I think the DNC has been unfair to a 422 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of the candidates. Uh, I have and the r 423 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: n C and fairness has been to other candidates in 424 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: previo cycles as well. Yeah. But I will say this, 425 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Mariam Williamson got shafted. I totally agree, and uh we 426 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: stand the orb queen. And I think one of the 427 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: things that about Greta's u take on this whole tiff 428 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: between Bernie and Elizabeth Bourne is that I actually do 429 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: think it will hurt them, and I think in addition 430 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: to the bitterness between the two sides now that's sort 431 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: of growing, is only going to fester and hurt the 432 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Uh, come to general election, Kevin Welling, what 433 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: about changing some of the debate structure, because there's so 434 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: much pressure, especially during a presidential debate, with body language, 435 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: with where they're sitting. I mean, the the amount of 436 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: effort and time that goes in to these debates. I mean, 437 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: it's it's enormous. Yeah, Ca have I agree with you 438 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: and with Greta and and to a certain Degreese Surage's point, 439 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'd love to see the debates more substantive. 440 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: You know, you know, no president is responding to a 441 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: crisis with a seventy five second response, So I'd love 442 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: to see you know, you know, watching the debate on Tuesday, 443 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, no, none of the moderators really pressed, you know, 444 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: center Sanders on Medicare for all and center Warren on 445 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Medicare for all. What are the pay force? You know, 446 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: how much is this actually gonna cost? Joe Biden was saying, 447 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's upwards of thirty forty trillion dollars um 448 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: and and I want to dive into those issues into 449 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: a larger degree than what can happen on on the 450 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: current debate stage. And now here's what I will say though, 451 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, when there's so many candidates are running for 452 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: president it is difficult to be able to dive into specifics. 453 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Then it's not like a debate is the only opportunity 454 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: for voters and undecided voters to learn about these candidates. 455 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: You got do a little homework. But I think what 456 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: I like about Gretavent Suession's idea and her Washington Post 457 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: op ed, is that she's saying, what if the debates 458 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: were more structured with topics. What if there was an 459 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: opportunity similar to how they are in the general election 460 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: when the ones on foreign policies, but even more so, 461 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: but in terms of saying specifically, here is the scenario. 462 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: You gotta file something. It's going to give folks some 463 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: opportunities to dive into the details, and then it becomes 464 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: less so about again, like I said, the body language, 465 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: where they're sitting, the height and all of that, and 466 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: and folks, I will tell you, based upon my reporting, 467 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you this. You talk to the debate 468 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: folks in the Debate Commission, you talk to the campaign, 469 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: you talk to anyone who has advised any candidate who 470 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: has been running for president and has participated in a debate. 471 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: It's theater, and they're all prepped for how to act, 472 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: how to perform, what to where, how much makeup, what, 473 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: whether or not there's a stool, whether or not they're sweating, 474 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: when to go to the restroom, all of that, and 475 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: we make light of it a lot of times, but 476 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: it is so incredibly crucial. And if you don't believe me, 477 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: all you have to do is check Twitter. All you 478 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: have to do is open up your social feed, which 479 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: has now become whatever it used to be. Everyone gets 480 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: out their popcorn now, everybody gets out their cell phone 481 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: in order to follow along at home. All right, coming up, 482 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna pivot back to policy, and we're gonna have 483 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: a little fun as well. 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My 493 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: panelist tonight, Kevin Lowling, Democratic strategist at h G Creative Media. 494 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: Saraj hash me he's a conservative writer for the Washington Examiner. 495 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Saraje tell us we were talking about you grew up 496 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: in Pakistan and where else hart knet Knetic very two, 497 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: very similar places. And then you went to Dickinson and 498 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: I found you. You were going to be a doctor. 499 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: I wanted to go to medical school, yes, and then 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: you were like, no, I want to be a journalist. Yeah, 501 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: originally sports or I want to be a sports journalist, 502 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and then um yeah. And then then I think feen 503 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: around the midterm elections, the the demand became for politics, 504 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: and I already had a pretty familiar grasp on politics. 505 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: My family's very liberal. My wife was actually very conservative. Um, 506 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: I am more moderate, even though I worked for the 507 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Washington examin there. And it just so happens that this 508 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: has been a good fit for me. All right, sounds 509 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: like a nice family, So I will tell you this fun, 510 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: fun little fact. When I was right out of college, 511 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: right before the Jerry Sandosky trial when I covered it, 512 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: I have freelanced for the Philadelphia Wings for the Philadelphia Inquirer, 513 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: and I had to write about the Philadelphia Wings, which 514 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: is an indoor lacrosse team. Yeah. So that was my Yeah, 515 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: that was my only foray into I played lacrosse in 516 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: high school and into sports journalism. I was like, Nah, 517 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: what about the Eagles, guys? Um anyway, Okay, so now 518 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: it's time for we do this thing to Rodgers the 519 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: first time on the program where we we talk about 520 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar and you tell us about 521 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: something that you know, maybe have flown under the radar. 522 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Walling, I'll start with you, what is on your radar? Uh? 523 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: I was always on my radar screen where eighteen days 524 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: out from the caucus is one of the interesting things. 525 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: And of course the caucus is run by the Democratic 526 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: Party of Iowa interestingly enough, and the Republican on on 527 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: the other side. Um, for the first time in the 528 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: history of the caucus. In addition to obviously you know, 529 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: reporting on who wins the caucus, uh, they're also going 530 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: to release the role vote total. So, as you know, 531 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: precinct by precinct, there's a viability question. So if a 532 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: candidate does not get over fifteen percent on that first ballot, 533 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: their supporters have to go to some other candidate. So 534 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: it becomes a really raucous environment. And it's always in 535 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: a high school, gym, or church or some large venue, 536 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of persuasion that goes on to 537 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: get folks to your side. So think it'll be interesting 538 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: that in the idea that we might have two winners, 539 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: perceived winners coming out of Iowa. Whoever gets the raw 540 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: vote total first, because you know, if you know, for example, 541 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders Uh, you know, wins the raw vote total 542 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: but is not viable in some of the precincts and 543 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: those folks go elsewhere. He might not win the Iowa 544 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: caucus on the on the at the end of the night, 545 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: but he may have one you know, perceivably um on 546 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: on that first ballot. If that makes sense. Okay, but 547 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: there's only one winner. There's only one winner in terms 548 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: of what the media report. But going into it, if 549 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: someone wins the total votes, the vote total going into 550 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: that night, I think that they can make the case 551 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: to the media that they they in fact one the caucus. 552 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think to to to 553 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: like the chattering class, yes, to to the pundon's yes, 554 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: But to most Americans who are tuning into the networks 555 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: and listening to Bloomberg Radio sound on, they will, they will. 556 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: There there's only one winner. And that's why I don't 557 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: buy that we're headed for a brokered convention, because I 558 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: don't think so either, because I remember in the last 559 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: cycle all of this chatter about Ted Cruz on the 560 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: Southern Firewall, and and no one's gonna want Donald Trump's either, 561 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: and then ultimately you get you know, we Yes, it 562 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: is an incredibly complex process, but it's too two voters, 563 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: it's an incredibly simple one. Whoever gets the most votes 564 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: wins Keev. Yeah, it's true, it's true. I'm just saying, 565 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: what's all my radar screen is this new technical issue 566 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: with the Iowa caucuses that's brand new to the talking 567 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: heads like us that will be secting this. And there's 568 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: an interesting quality to that because it is all about viability, 569 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: this impeachment with does this really help Buddha Judge? No, 570 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't buy them. I think it helps the vice president. 571 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: I think this current spat that we're talking about between 572 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: Warren and Sanders helps Biden if you look at more 573 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: more interesting enough, and Morning Console does a really good 574 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: job of this of asking people who their second choices, 575 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: because you know, you look at Amy Clobachar, for example, 576 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: who's running seven eight percent, and I will right now, 577 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: she's not going to be viable on that first ballot, 578 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: So where do her folks go? A lot of precincts. 579 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: Maybe Pete Buddha Judge isn't going to be viable. Where 580 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: did his supporters go? Right now? Those two are going 581 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: to Biden right now? The second choice for Sanders now. 582 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: But so so, if you don't get on the second 583 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: ballot in these if you don't hit fifteen percent on 584 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: the first percent, is the viability threshold? Viability threshold? Yes, 585 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a technical term. It's the 586 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Kevin walling by right, But if so, so all these 587 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: caucus goers and them, and they go to their corners 588 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: and they and they try to vote, and then if 589 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: Amy Klobachar doesn't get if she gets fourteen point five percent, yeah, 590 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: those folks, there's a lot of people. Yeah, running and keV. 591 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: What happens now is we know that raw vote total 592 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: now for the first time. That's why it's on my 593 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: radar screen. But if she hits that fourteen percent, those 594 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: folks have to go elsewhere, not to other corners. In 595 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: terms of democratic that's fascinating, you know. And I was 596 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: talking about this actually over the holidays with my with 597 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: my folks. I mean, you go to Iowa. Can you 598 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: imagine having to do that with your neighbors down the 599 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: street from you. Yeah, they love it. They love it 600 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: like your neighbors. I mean, you know, you don't like 601 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: your neighbors, and then you got to see them at 602 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: the come and go because it's Iowa. But I mean, 603 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta could be awkward, all right. That 604 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: is very interesting. So if you're remembering, if you're listening, 605 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: remember this number threshold, viability threshold, and you gotta get 606 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: that amount and those caucuses in order to get on 607 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: the second ballot to determine the winner. And how many 608 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: ballots do they do? Do we know that? I don't know, ye. 609 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: I think it's just that that first and then second. 610 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: So anyone who doesn't d fifteen, they got to go 611 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: somewhere else, all right, Great job, Saraj Hashman. You made 612 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: some headlines because your tweet was on Fox News about 613 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: Vince Vaughan. Vince Vaughan was that the Monday night college 614 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: football championship game. Uh. And this was before one of 615 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: the uh and and it went by Ireland. It was criticized, 616 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: and you tweeted out, quote unquote, ladies and gentlemen, I 617 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: regret to inform you that Vince Vaughn is canceled end quote. 618 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: So from a serious perspective you were kidding in your tweets, 619 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: but from but from a serious perspective, From a reporting perspective, 620 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: what does this illustrate about big Hollywood and its relationship 621 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: to this administration? The Vince Vaughn meeting at the gate 622 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: watch a football game but the president. Right, it's one 623 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: of those uh, I mean, cancel culture has sort of 624 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: taken a toll on society in the sense that even 625 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: building bridges with the other side of the aisle, uh, 626 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: can lead you to being ostracized from society. UH can 627 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: lead to say, economic opportunities being pulled away and all 628 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Uh, it's just whatever you believe. That's 629 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: all that's that's become a crime, a social crime. And 630 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: so I was mocking the scenario of Vince Vaughn possibly 631 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: being canceled, even though we know he's a right leaning 632 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: libertarian who campaign for Rampaul in uh At somehow meeting 633 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: with the president exchanging pleasantries is uh a reason to 634 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: cancel It really is interesting, alright, breaking news redheadline crossing 635 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg terminal Judy Shelton of Virginia as well as 636 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: Christopher Waller of Missouri. The President has formally announced that 637 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: he will nominate to the federal two key administration post 638 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors Judy Shelton. Judy 639 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Shelton of Virginia has been nominated by President Trump to 640 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: be a member of the Board of Governors on the 641 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve System for the remainder of a fourteen year term. 642 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: And Christopher Waller of Missouri also President has nominated to 643 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: be a member of the Board of Governors of the 644 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve System for the remainder of a fourteen year 645 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: term as well. Uh, Judy Shelton, Christopher Waller. I mean, 646 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: they've been very much in conservative economic circles for the past. 647 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Judy Shelton's uh background here. She 648 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: was a staff economist for the National Commission on Economic 649 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Growth and Tax Reform from Jack Kemp days. Remember that. 650 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: So she's a Jack Kemp protege. Judy Shelton to the 651 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: FED Board. Christopher Waller of Missouri to the Fed Board 652 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: as well. All right, that is not what's on my radar. 653 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: But what is quickly on my radar is HUAWE and 654 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: whether or not Europe is going to get really sign 655 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: up for five G with what with China squahwe uh 656 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: and the pressure that the administration is going to be 657 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: placing on Europe as a result of that. Now that 658 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: U s m c A has done phaseball, but China 659 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: has done, Europe's in the hot seat. Next. Thank you 660 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: to Kevin Walling. Thank you to Saraj hash Me. I'm 661 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television. I'm Bloomberg Radio. 662 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: You can download the Bloomberg Sound on podcast on Apple 663 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: iTunes and Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg 664 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: Business app. You can also find us on radio dot com, 665 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, and Spotify. Thank you also to Greta 666 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: Van Sustern read her Washington Post op ed, and Senator 667 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: Marsha Blackburn. 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