WEBVTT - Hour 3 – Playoff Jimmy, Mel Kiper Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to say lo. We will have a new poll

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<v Speaker 2>question for the final hour of the program. Fitzi Fritzi

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<v Speaker 2>is doing the honors. We have results.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're looking for those right now, you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, all right? Thank you Fitzi for gone conclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>The Celtics will represent the East in the NBA finals.

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<v Speaker 3>True Dad forty seven, Slow your role fifty three?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the poll question for the final hour of

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 4>That is TBA.

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<v Speaker 3>We had the thunder one which was I think the

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<v Speaker 3>thunder will win the NBA title. Sure twenty three percent,

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<v Speaker 3>way too early, seventy seven percent. And we'll say we

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<v Speaker 3>could come up with for a clever final hour poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know how this works. There's a new poll

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<v Speaker 2>question each ower, t like, what else have you been doing?

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of listening to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Follow up?

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<v Speaker 2>You're taking over for Seaton and he has a new

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<v Speaker 2>poll question each hour. Yeah, how about that. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>come up with some eighty seven seven three DP show

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<v Speaker 2>email Addressdpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of NBA notes here. The Pistons have dropped fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive playoff games. That's the longest postseason losing streak in

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<v Speaker 2>NBA history. The last time Detroit won a playoff game

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<v Speaker 2>May twenty six of eight against the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 6>Stand a Day, Stanaday, Stanaday, stand to day.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the style of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Stat of the Day brought to you by in Any America,

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<v Speaker 2>the official trading cards of the program and Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one point win, the largest in a playoff game

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty fifteen. But John Morant vows that it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>different Game two, which is you know comforting to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm a Memphis fan. You imagine if he said

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it might be the same coming up

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<v Speaker 2>game two. You know, it's weird to say somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>in a must win situation, and we talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot must win situation. Now, I feel like every

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<v Speaker 2>year is a must win situation for Lebron because Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>is chasing the ultimate goal, and that is to be

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest player in NBA history, and the only way

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<v Speaker 2>he accomplishes that is to win at least one more championship. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>another player, and I think he's in a must win

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<v Speaker 2>situation is Jimmy Butler. Because Jimmy Butler wanted out of Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>goes to Golden State. He's playoff Jimmy. You can wipe

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<v Speaker 2>away of the mess that you know he left in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>And you imagine if he helps lead Golden State to

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<v Speaker 2>another championship, which means Steph Curry gets another championship, which

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<v Speaker 2>means he moves up the totem pole. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the must win and I would put that in parentheses

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<v Speaker 2>but not capital letters, but must have a great end

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<v Speaker 2>result here, maybe you get to the the NBA Finals,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you get to the Western Conference finals, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is why they bring you in. You're different in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would think that those two if Boston doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>win it this year, I don't think Jalen Brown and

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum are in a must win situation. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Donovan Mitchell's in it must win. Now you can

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<v Speaker 2>say Shay gilgis because he's going to be the MVP

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<v Speaker 2>and we've seen you know that in previous years. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you do in your MVP season? Because if

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<v Speaker 2>Shay Gilges just doesn't go to the NBA Finals, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the voters will go, we gave it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to see you prove it. You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it again, but we want you to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll reward you the following season. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>did this to Joker Jannis. I don't think anybody is

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<v Speaker 2>expecting anything out of Giannis. But if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>must win situations, I would say probably Lebron because he's

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<v Speaker 2>chasing Mike and Jimmy Butler because he has a history

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, wearing out his welcome. Steph, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how many more years do you get this opportunity Draymond.

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<v Speaker 2>How many more years do you get this opportunity of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe playing for a championship And the key is Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 2>because Steph's going to be great. I mean, Draymond will

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<v Speaker 2>still do what he does, good and bad. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to get the you know, younger players to contribute, but

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<v Speaker 2>you got a chance to maybe play for another champ

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say that Jimmy is in a must

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<v Speaker 2>winnish situation along with Lebron chasing Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Marvin, I'm gonna take Lebron off that list only

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<v Speaker 5>because I don't think he can get to where Mike is.

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<v Speaker 5>But Jimmy Butler to me is the one seed only

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<v Speaker 5>because of how it ended in Miami and the go

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<v Speaker 5>to Golden State with Stephen. With Draymond, I think they've

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<v Speaker 5>got to do it, and I think it's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be this year because since he's gotten there, they've played great.

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<v Speaker 5>Their seating is misleading. I don't mean for that, Ryan, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Their seating is misleading only because before he got there,

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<v Speaker 5>they were uh like on the cusp of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the seventh seed. But since he's gotten there, I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're like twenty four and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you don't think that there If Lebron wins another title, no,

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<v Speaker 2>like he can't, he can't surpass Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't know, only only.

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<v Speaker 2>If he let Okay, let's just say he wins another title.

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<v Speaker 2>At that age, now he's one less than Mike. I

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<v Speaker 2>know Mike never lost the NBA Finals, but Mike didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play in as many finals as Lebron did. Who did

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<v Speaker 2>lose NBA finals, You'd have a hard time convincing me

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<v Speaker 2>greatest basketball career of all time. And maybe that's not

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<v Speaker 2>fair to say it that way, because I would put

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<v Speaker 2>Kareem in there as having the greatest basketball career of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. I think he lost one or two games

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<v Speaker 2>in high school. How many games he lose in college?

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't get to play his freshman year they won

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<v Speaker 2>all three national championships when he lose two games. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you go into the NBA and yes, did he

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<v Speaker 2>get to a point where he's overshadowed by Oscar as

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<v Speaker 2>his point guard and then Magic as his point gude, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that happens to the big man because they need, you know, facilitator.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be hard pressed to convince me that Mike is

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<v Speaker 2>a better basketball player than Lebron. If Lebron wins a

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<v Speaker 2>title at this age, I just have a hard time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you gotta be fair as much as we

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<v Speaker 2>hold on to our memories, and that's what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody talks that Mike didn't go to the playoffs there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one and done in the playoffs there. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have a good team. Look at Lebron's team

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<v Speaker 2>that went to the finals against the Spurs. Did Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan ever have a team that was that bad? And

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<v Speaker 2>you would, once again, you'd be hard pressed. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Lebron what he's done, like you know, everything

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<v Speaker 2>start to finish, and he lived up to the hype.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike didn't have hype. Mike was He wont even the

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<v Speaker 2>best player at Carolina. James Worthy was considered the best

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<v Speaker 2>player Lebron from fifteen to forty as much as I

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<v Speaker 2>loved and I was there with Jordan when he won

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<v Speaker 2>those titles. Now this is what you're going to get. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>who would you want game on the line? Okay, does

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<v Speaker 2>that make you the best player? Because we totally blew

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<v Speaker 2>past Bill Russell? He never lost in the finals, did

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<v Speaker 2>he He won eleven titles? He won two titles in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait, well no, it doesn't work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not Russell's the greatest winner of all time. He

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, wasn't a brand. He didn't have shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't appear in movie. You know, he was just

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Russell. He was going to a press conference for

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<v Speaker 2>civil rights, you know, like all right, yes, Marvin, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>With the Michael Lebron argument, see, I would get real

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<v Speaker 5>like geekish and start talking about there was no wasted

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<v Speaker 5>movements and when Michael Jordan had the ball, as soon

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<v Speaker 5>as he got the ball, he went right to work.

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<v Speaker 5>He had great footwork, great fundamentals on top of extreme athleticism.

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe I'm just going a little bit too deep

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<v Speaker 5>because people a going to say, oh six and oho.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of people with not a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people, but there's people with six championship Robert or

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<v Speaker 5>you got seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But we all know that Mike was great. We

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<v Speaker 2>all know what he could do with the besketball. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think we're fair to Lebron because people you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Skip Bayless, who has criticized Lebron forever, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, therefore it's like opens no one was criticizing Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>No one even now, no one criticizes Mike. You got

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<v Speaker 2>guys who played against him who're afraid to criticize him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I get the ultimate respect. I just what Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>has done, as I mean, it's remarkable, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that we give him enough credit. I don't. It

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<v Speaker 2>might be after the fact, it might be ten years

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact when people look back and go, cow

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<v Speaker 2>dude scored forty thousand. He plays the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't won an MVP since won twenty twelve. I mean, yam,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think he's been taken for granted. Now

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<v Speaker 2>can we nitpick? Yes, Russell wasn't a good offensive player,

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<v Speaker 2>will you know? It was a malcontent who took himself

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<v Speaker 2>out of I mean, we go down the list there,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's Larry Bird's career wasn't long enough, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. I you know, we tend to do

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<v Speaker 2>this and then all of a sudden you bring somebody down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they couldn't do he didn't do he clutch, he

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<v Speaker 2>was he free throws he you know, And yes, if

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<v Speaker 2>I had one game to win, do I want Mike

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<v Speaker 2>or Lebron I want Mike, but that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>he's a better player or certainly had a better career

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<v Speaker 2>than Lebron because Joe Montana won four, didn't lose, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's not considered the best quarterback of all time. Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>has already passed him, and he's lost in the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl a couple of times. I just we pick and

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<v Speaker 2>choose with our arguments and I and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that it's a hot take world here. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think we won't be as we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>fair to Lebron until after the fact.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah point, Unlike you, most Jordanists are unflexible or they

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<v Speaker 7>have no flexibility about Michael Jordan. They don't even like

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<v Speaker 7>to have the topic and discuss Lebron because it's like

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<v Speaker 7>resume versus playing ability. Those are two different things. The

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<v Speaker 7>best resume in quarterback history is Tom Brady, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>really not that close.

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<v Speaker 4>If you said who is the best ever.

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<v Speaker 7>At playing the position, you could I think people can

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<v Speaker 7>make the case for Damn ma Reno, but his resume

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<v Speaker 7>is nowhere close to some of these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just we get caught up in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my childhood or you know that that I followed

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA then, and you know everybody rooted for the

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls even when they came to your hometown. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's rare that that happens in a team game that

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<v Speaker 2>you were okay if your team lost to the Bulls.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>And the thing is, I'm not anti Lebron. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna have behind Kareem the second greatest career ever,

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<v Speaker 5>as far as in the NBA's second gradest career ever,

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<v Speaker 5>because look, I saw Lebron at the end of his

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<v Speaker 5>sophomore year. There's an article in Slam magazine is that

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<v Speaker 5>the best player in high school basketball just finished the

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<v Speaker 5>tenth grade. So I saw it from the beginning. And

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<v Speaker 5>in his junior year he was on the cover Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 5>And to d what he's done is unbelievable because you

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<v Speaker 5>see all these guys outside of Tiger Woods that had

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<v Speaker 5>this type of hype going in and they didn't live

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<v Speaker 5>up to it, and Lebron has.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but imagine if Lebron had passed the ball to

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr, if Lebron had passed the ball to John Paxson,

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<v Speaker 2>that happened Lebron. I mean Mike didn't take those shots

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<v Speaker 2>they did. Imagine if Lebron doesn't even get credit for

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<v Speaker 2>the bubble, everybody there was no advantage playing in the bubble. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but he won in the bubble. It's a neutral sight.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have had Home courted Vin. It's actually more impressive,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are we doing? It wasn't like some.

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<v Speaker 7>NBA players are in the bubble and others just weren't there.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's where it gets silly. Mike didn't take those

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<v Speaker 2>last shots. Steve Kerr did. John Paxson did.

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<v Speaker 7>Killed him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you said, man, Michael, what a genius. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it took the double game and threw it to Steep

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<v Speaker 2>Like we can create whatever we want to create. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>brings up when Mike didn't make the finals. What happened

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<v Speaker 2>in those seasons? Would you rather have somebody who got

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<v Speaker 2>you to the postseason, to the finals? Yeah, but Mike

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<v Speaker 2>didn't lose. No, he lost earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, mar And people always say because they don't like Lebron, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>goats don't get swept. I said, Cream got swept and

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<v Speaker 5>Magic got swept. Berg got swept. But because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>in the finals, it doesn't mean that much. So would

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<v Speaker 5>you rather lose in the second round where people really

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<v Speaker 5>don't care that much, or the finals people pick and choose.

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<v Speaker 2>There's breaking news. I don't think anybody saw this coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag is going pro?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Easy, I'll say it slower. Cooper Flag is going pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna probably need another source on this, but sources

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<v Speaker 2>close to me tell me that Cooper Flag is going pro. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Remember a month ago we had coach Cyron from Duke

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<v Speaker 7>and you asked him have you had a conversation about

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<v Speaker 7>him staying or going? And he said no, No, like

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<v Speaker 7>the conversation happened when he chose to attend Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>I ask him, are you going to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with him? No? All right? I think didn't con Canipple

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<v Speaker 2>announce that he was going pro before Cooper Flag did?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, okay, yeah, I know, I know. Let me take

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Why do so many opinions seem to shift

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<v Speaker 2>based on stuff that's not from actual games that these

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<v Speaker 2>players play.

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<v Speaker 4>It's college to prod and that's what makes it so

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<v Speaker 4>so difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>You're seeing guys play in college against players who will

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<v Speaker 6>not be in the National Football League, so you're not

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<v Speaker 6>getting apples to apples. In some games, you want to

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<v Speaker 6>watch an offensive tackle, but the defensive ends going on

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<v Speaker 6>the right side or left side, opposite where the player

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<v Speaker 6>you want the one on one to be, So you

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<v Speaker 6>get little snippets, okay, snapshots here and there of a

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<v Speaker 6>player against another great player. That's why senior bowl practices

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<v Speaker 6>are so important, because you're getting good on good. You

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<v Speaker 6>don't get that in college on a regular basis, so

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of times the stats.

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<v Speaker 4>Can be skewed.

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<v Speaker 6>One way, you can have great numbers against I call

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<v Speaker 6>am aog sdan another occupation. Guys, that's what they are,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they're aogs. That's what you go up against

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<v Speaker 6>in college. I can win that phrase years ago. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what it is because that's college football. That's the same

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<v Speaker 6>thing when you talk about high school. It's tough to

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<v Speaker 6>go from one level to the next and be accurate

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<v Speaker 6>with you evaluation. So when you end end today, it's

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<v Speaker 6>over evaluation too, because you're talking about so much time

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<v Speaker 6>between the end of the season until late April that

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<v Speaker 6>you do kind of overthink it and you do factor

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<v Speaker 6>in things that maybe shouldn't be as heavily weighed because

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<v Speaker 6>it's so much time and it is level to a

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<v Speaker 6>different level, and you have to look at everything possible

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<v Speaker 6>to try to make a good, good evaluation. And certainly, Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of scouts believe in general managers. Later in

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<v Speaker 6>the draft, take the talented kids, Bill Polly and Hall

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<v Speaker 6>of Fame. We're always told him, no, take the talented

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<v Speaker 6>guys later in the draft. The guys are call him

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<v Speaker 6>under achievers, Dan, but they have a big time skill set.

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<v Speaker 4>And for one reason or another they got dinged in

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<v Speaker 4>the process a bit.

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<v Speaker 6>Take those kind of guys in the fifth, sixth, seventh

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<v Speaker 6>round or bring him in his undrafted free agents.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you grade Travis Hunter considering there's two positions.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a hard It's a hard decision on wide receiver

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<v Speaker 6>and corner when you have other players.

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<v Speaker 4>That are fully invested in that one spot.

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<v Speaker 6>So you say, Okay, Travis didn't play just reiver, he

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<v Speaker 6>didn't play just corner.

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<v Speaker 4>He was out there every play, every snap.

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<v Speaker 6>That to me prevents him from being as good at

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<v Speaker 6>one or the other that he could be. So even

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<v Speaker 6>with that said, Dan, he's my number one wide receiver

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<v Speaker 6>and he's my number one corner, and it's amazing that

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<v Speaker 6>he would just focus on one position how great he

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<v Speaker 6>could be.

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<v Speaker 4>So to me, Travis is as.

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<v Speaker 6>Unique as any player in the history of the draft

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<v Speaker 6>because he is going to play both ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Right away, Dion said it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not going to have a drive at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of the first half, or a drive in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 6>or two drives in the fourth quarter, settling that game

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<v Speaker 6>that outcome and have Travis Hunter standing on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 6>when our cornerbacks are getting beaten in the quarterbacks, driving

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<v Speaker 6>his team right down the field against my defense. You

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<v Speaker 6>can't have that. So Diana is perfectly correct. He's a

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<v Speaker 6>thousand percent correct on that. This kid's got to play

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<v Speaker 6>both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you love or love love Shador Sanders?

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<v Speaker 4>Like really loved Shador Sanders.

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<v Speaker 6>I tried to be loyal to what like I said

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<v Speaker 6>August and what I thought throughout their careers. And I

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<v Speaker 6>understand if you want Dan somebody who looks the part,

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<v Speaker 6>I call them ltpeers.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they are.

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<v Speaker 4>There are ltpers.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a couple other guys that that's positioned that are

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<v Speaker 6>more physically gifted. Okay, when I talk about arm strength,

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<v Speaker 6>when I talk about just imposing size, the rocket arm,

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<v Speaker 6>the four to six speed, there are other quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 6>have that. Dan, if you want that, take those guys.

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<v Speaker 6>If you want a kid who can just surgically take

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<v Speaker 6>a team down the field, pick you apart, see things,

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<v Speaker 6>recognize things, diagnose, make decisions that are sound. Also, get

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<v Speaker 6>the ball to accurate points and precise points to a receiver,

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<v Speaker 6>and hang in tough in that pocket, take hits and

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<v Speaker 6>keep getting up. Don't point fingers, don't assign blame. Win

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<v Speaker 6>football games. He didn't have a running game for two

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<v Speaker 6>years of Colorado. Dan his leading rusher, upset it for

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<v Speaker 6>the last month. His leading rusher the last two years,

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<v Speaker 6>the two top running backs in this draft, Jent and Hampton,

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<v Speaker 6>would have had more yards in a game and.

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<v Speaker 4>A half then they had the whole year.

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<v Speaker 6>Think about that and an offensive line, Dan, you saw

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<v Speaker 6>that offensive line that was a bad group in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty three, a little bit better in twenty four. But

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<v Speaker 6>bottom line is he had no chance, and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of those snaps he had no shot. So I give

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<v Speaker 6>him a lot of credit, Dan, But if he's not

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<v Speaker 6>the guy that you want physically, and you can't reconcile

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<v Speaker 6>taking a guy that high, I get it. But does

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<v Speaker 6>that not mean that, hey, in the mid late first round,

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<v Speaker 6>he can't be a heck of a pick.

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<v Speaker 4>And all this notion too, Dan, Well, if.

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<v Speaker 6>You love them, or you'll like them, whatever, if you'll

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<v Speaker 6>just like them, you can't take them.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I give you an example.

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<v Speaker 6>In nineteen eighty four, Dan, my first year at ESPN,

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<v Speaker 6>I had Boomer Assias and the third highest rated player

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<v Speaker 6>on my board right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Schador is at five. By the way. Okay, So say

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<v Speaker 4>Shaudor goes in the late first.

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<v Speaker 6>Think it was in a second what an idiot Kuiper

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<v Speaker 6>is right, he had Well, guess what Boomer was. Three

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<v Speaker 6>Bengals had three picks in the first round. Dan, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sitting there, first year at ESPN. You know what's going

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<v Speaker 6>through my head.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm one and done. I'm sitting there with Boom. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there with Chris Berman, Boomer and Bob Lee. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking now, I'm not gonna be back for the nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 6>Five d My third highest rated players there, and the

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<v Speaker 6>Bengals passed them three times, Dan, and two of those

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<v Speaker 6>three were bus They took him in the second round.

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<v Speaker 6>Now to that philosophy, if you didn't like him enough

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<v Speaker 6>to take him with your first three picks in there,

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<v Speaker 6>why are you taking him in the second round. He's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be your quarterback. He's gonna be the guy, whether

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<v Speaker 6>he was the first second round or he's your guy

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<v Speaker 6>moving forward. You didn't even like him enough to take

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<v Speaker 6>ahead of Rickey Hunley, Pete Kotch and Brian Blados. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so again, I don't buy into any of that nonsense.

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<v Speaker 6>Brett Fahr was like highly rated player went in the

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<v Speaker 6>second round, right, Look what happened with him.

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Rodgers was supposed to go number one. Three.

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<v Speaker 6>We will full of draft that slid to twenty four,

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<v Speaker 6>the six of the eight sliding picks on terms of

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<v Speaker 6>my rankings over the last yeah, since nineteen seventy Dan

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<v Speaker 6>I went all the way back to nineteen seventy sixty

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<v Speaker 6>eight hit six of the eight sliding quarterbacks hit. So

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<v Speaker 6>maybe Schador will be one of the six that does

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<v Speaker 6>really well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Mel Kuiper, Draft Expert forty second NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Draft and you can see ESPN with every pick there

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be Thursday through Saturday. It'll be a mel and

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<v Speaker 2>Field Ags Mike Greenberg the First Draft podcast as well

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<v Speaker 2>with mel Kiper. Help me understand this then, I know

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<v Speaker 2>we get it. We fall in love with quarterbacks. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I say to a team that guy right there

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to take, it's not a quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be a future Hall of famer. But

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<v Speaker 2>instead you'll roll the dice on cam Ward and cam

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<v Speaker 2>can be maybe he's a Hall of famer. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you said Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, you know there's a

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of guys in here that you go. Chances are

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<v Speaker 2>they could be the safest pick and be a future

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer. But we're gonna roll the dice on

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<v Speaker 2>cam Ward. He explain the logic there at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the draft. It's a arm talent, Dan, it's the trades.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that skill set that Brian Callahan.

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<v Speaker 6>I listened to an interview with Brian Callahan and he said,

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<v Speaker 6>I want a quarterback and everybody in the stadium those

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<v Speaker 6>we're throwing a ball and throw the ball and deliver

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<v Speaker 6>a pass and complete it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want a guy that's wired, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I want a guy that, certainly you know, can be

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<v Speaker 6>not just good, because he said he said just good,

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<v Speaker 6>just good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan, it's been told to us. Listen to what they're saying.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to go that's just good. They want

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Burrow, they want Jaydon Dan. He mentioned Joe Burrow

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 6>and Jadan Daniels in an interview. That's what he's shooting for.

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 6>He's not shooting I said this for the last couple

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<v Speaker 6>of years, Dan, the singles in double days for quarterbacks

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 6>are over. This is and even maybe even a triple.

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 6>You want a Grand Slam or a home runner. You

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 6>don't want that guy, Dan. So what they're doing now

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 6>is they're just keeping taking shots. They're taking shots. If

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 6>my guy's not a triple, triple double or a triple

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 6>home run or Grand Slam, he's just a double or single,

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<v Speaker 6>just good, then I gotta get better.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta get better.

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<v Speaker 6>And the one phrase that came out of everybody's mouth

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<v Speaker 6>this last couple of years is I want a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 6>my quarterback to play at consistently high level.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're looking at great then, right, Yeah, consistently high level?

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Who does that? Dan?

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 6>Patrick does it every day because he's a Hall of Famer,

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 6>bottom line knows does these quarterbacks do it every day?

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<v Speaker 4>Consistently high level?

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 5>Dan?

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 6>And that's where again, you look at what we're doing here.

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.920
<v Speaker 6>If we got a quarterback and we think he could

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 6>be good, but we got to get better.

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<v Speaker 4>This kid has the arm talent.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 6>Shador Sanders doesn't have the rocket arm, doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 6>four to six beeding. This is the six three two thirty.

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 6>Cam Ward has the rocket arm, has maneuver ability and creativity.

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 6>The GM was with Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes has a

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 6>lot of creativity and a live arm. They all see

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 6>a little bit elements of the quarterback. They were with

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.239
<v Speaker 6>with a quarterback, they're going to select and I think

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 6>they see some elements there of what Mahomes does to

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<v Speaker 6>the way cam Ward does or doesn't do it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why cam Ward goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, Like, are you sure that cam Ward is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be more successful or as successful as Travis Hunter?

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>No? No, I don't think anybody can be sure of.

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<v Speaker 2>So mightn't take that guy. That's a generational talent there.

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>This is what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you can't do.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to have It's the most important position in

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<v Speaker 6>all sports, this quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you got to keep taking chances.

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 6>I always say, if you don't have that quarterback, then

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<v Speaker 6>you're spinning your wheels.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 4>They got Joe Burrow in Cincinnati didn't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so you are. You can have all these pieces.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 6>That's what they said. And I was a big Trent

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 6>Dilford supporter. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Ironically, you're

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 6>in Baltimore, right, My homes have worn and raised in Baltimore.

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 6>I right, how it all came full circle for me.

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<v Speaker 6>But people say, well, you needed everything around. They'd let

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 6>Trent do't for go. They cut him loose the next

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 6>year for Elvis Kirback. They wanted to get better. Okay,

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 6>they felt like, okay, we need everything around Trent. But

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 6>he galvanized that team. He was the true leader. He

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 6>was the difference maker on a team. They were one

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 6>nowhere t Trent took over that year. Okay, and he

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 6>let him all those wins, but it wasn't good enough

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 6>even then. Think about that, Dan, it was a long

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 6>time ago. It wasn't even good enough. Then they had

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 6>a Super Bowl winning quarterback. They kicked them to the

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<v Speaker 6>curb to try to get better. This has been going,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 6>this thought process, Dan has been going on a long time.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 6>The good isn't good enough at the quarterback position in

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<v Speaker 6>the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to you gotta pace yourself because you

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 2>got to get ready for a Thursday. Here, mel I mean,

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you're you're in first round mode right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know about that, Dan, the voice that always

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 6>goes by, You're right by Thursday. I get all fired

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 6>up this week and he start yelling and screaming, and

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 6>by Thursday, Friday and Saturday, you got nothing left. So

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm with you. But hey, Dan, I could listen to

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 6>you say pace it. I've been listening to you say

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 6>pace it for about hell of may years and we've

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 6>been together.

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 4>Do I ever, Dan, listen to Dan Patrick?

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, I know. I think it's interesting though,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 2>that your mock draft is saying this is your potential.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>This is how you grade them, not what the philosophy

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>is of the teams. Is that correct?

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 8>Well?

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Philosophy?

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 6>You want positions like I say, don't take a running

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 6>back in the first But I'm not going to grade

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 6>a kid like Ashton Genty or Amari and Hampton from

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 6>North Carolina and put him as my sixty fifth player

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 6>because I don't agree with taking your running back in

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 6>the first You great them based on their ability, and

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 6>that's why all those running backs were rated high. I

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 6>have a philosophy that people said was idiotic, Dan, and

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 6>now they're all agreeing with it. They all agree with it.

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 6>Now you notice that how that's come full circle too.

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.239
<v Speaker 6>They all said I was a nut. Now they say, oh,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, you shouldn't really draft a running back in

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 6>the first round unless you're one of those great teams

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 6>that just is missing the running back or that team

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 6>won the CUSP that's just missing a running back. Tell

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<v Speaker 6>me a team Dan in the top ten right now

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 6>doesn't think they're going to be a pretty good team

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 6>this coming year. Tell me a team that they are

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 6>going to be picking first next year. Tell me a

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 6>team going into next year's this coming season it thinks, oh,

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 6>we're going to be the worst team in the league

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 6>next year. Tell me a coach in that building or

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 6>a player in that building they were a GM or

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 6>an older that believes that.

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so to me, look at Tennessee.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 6>They were within a whisker last year of beating Chicago

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 6>opening week of being the Jets. The second week they

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 6>ended up beating Houston. They had a lot of games

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 6>where they're just a mistake here or or a block

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 6>that wasn't made, or a drop pass whatever it may,

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 6>or penalty or whatever, or an interception to turnover.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>So again, this is a fine line.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 9>Dan.

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 6>Washington went from being a team that was nothing to

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 6>be because they had to hit with Jayden and Daniels,

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 6>And that tells you what we talk about a quarterback.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 4>They hit with Jade Daniels and now look where they

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 4>are now. Look at the future of the Washington Commanders,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 4>right I give Cincinnati.

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 6>Hey, you get a mulligan with Joe Burrow. You're not

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 6>getting two years with Joe Burrow where you don't make

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs. You got an MVP quarterback, you better get

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 6>in the playoffs. I'll give you one year. I'm not

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 6>going to give you two. So once you get that guy,

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 6>you better win consistently.

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you regret not being a GM in the NFL?

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 6>Not at all, Dan, though I had that chance to

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 6>get into the league when a great probably the best

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 6>I've never had in the NFL where we're all you

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 6>think about Ernie a Corsi general manager who was going

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 6>to bring me in at age twenty three before I

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 6>came to ESPN, Dan, he offered me the position to

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 6>come work for him, just do whatever, not as an

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 6>assistant GM like some have you know, erroneously said it

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 6>was just to be his assistant as a young kid

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 6>coming in. If I need Kuiper to go wherever, I'll

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 6>send them if I need him to find out something else.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 4>And I said great. He said, what do you want

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 4>to do?

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 6>He said, just keep going through the eighty three draft,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 6>will announce you. In July, I had the NFL security

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 6>come down and interview and go through all the process

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 6>to be accepted in and all that. So I was

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 6>gonna it was all going to happen. In July, Ernie

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 6>had drafted John Elway. Without his knowledge, er John Elway

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 6>was traded to Denver. There was talking about the Colts

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 6>leaving town. Ernie would obviously be leaving as well. He

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 6>wasn't going to bring me in as his guy, knowing

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 6>the future is so uncertain for him with this organization.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 4>He called me in June, Dan and he said, no.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 10>I can't bring you in. I said, I said, okay,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 10>what do you want me to do? He said, Hey,

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 10>nobody knows that I was going to do this. It

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 10>has n't go an announced to anybody. You've got a

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 10>great business going. Keep doing what you're doing. Everybody craves

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 10>that type of information.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Keep doing what you're doing.

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 6>I did, and guess what, five months later, got a

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 6>call from ESPN to come up an interview for the job.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 6>Got that started in nineteen eighty four. So without Ernie

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 6>caring about a twenty three year old kid, and he

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 6>would have just brought me in, I'd have been with

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 6>a cult hit a laugh. I'd have been gone at

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 6>some point espa able to have had another draft analyst,

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 6>and I don't know what the heck gotta be doing

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 6>right now, Dan, But that.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Leads me to what happened with Brent Musberger. I campaigned

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>for him. I reached out to the Pro Football Hall

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>of Fame, the Pete Roseld Award. I'd like to do

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the same with you. I think you should be in

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate that, Dan, but I don't I really, I never.

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 6>I just believe there's so many people that just you

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 6>get your fortunate, you get a little lucky on your side.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 4>You're around great people. I was, Dan, work with.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>You, all those you you changed, You changed an industry.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>What you have meant to the NFL. Can it's a

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>different version of John Facenda, Like he was the voice

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>and you were the draft guy. Like, look at what

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>it's a cottage industry that you created that is contributions

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>to the game. I know you're modest, I don't care.

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm going forward with it. You you deserve to be

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 6>You do, Dan, your a great friend. Andy Poland has

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 6>been saying the same thing. I tell you, Andy, the

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 6>same thing you know, Andy, and he said he's gonna.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I said, you know to me.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 6>You get into this and you see so many people

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 6>that were responsible with ESPN for what's happened.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 4>So you say I did this.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 6>ESPN really did it, Dan, because they televised this thing

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 6>when the NFL didn't want it to be televised.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 4>Think about that.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 6>Think about all the great producers that were from Bill

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 6>Fitz who offered me that position in eighty four, all

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 6>the way up John Wildhat.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 4>You think about what he did, Freddy Gadelli. Freddy Goadelli was.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 6>Able to coach me along and teach me so many

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 6>things about this business. Jay Rothman, Brian Ryder, now, Robert Dampsky,

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 6>all the great producers.

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Way you're giving your Hall of Fame speech. Waye.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 6>Markman is believing in me all these years. Seth has

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 6>been a great friend. So all the ESPN guys, Dan,

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 6>they were responsible. And all the people that cut those

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 6>highlight packs, that all that worked behind they were responsible

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 6>for the draft sixce.

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 4>That's keep in mind, Dan, ESPN televised draft before I

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 4>got here.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so the draft was on a ESPN because before

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I became a part of the telecast, that changed.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>You changed, well, I appreciate that.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 6>But for John Fis said to what you just said,

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 6>the voice, that voice Dan pulled people into the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the hair, he's the voicemail.

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<v Speaker 6>My great friend, you'll be great friends. George Jung right,

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<v Speaker 6>late great George Young, Calvert Hall's owned George Young, famous,

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<v Speaker 6>famous graduate of Calvert Hall history, great friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 6>Used write me handwritten notes after he got the book,

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<v Speaker 6>when suggestions and just thoughts. He'd called me during the

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<v Speaker 6>draft even and give me, get me to tell him

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<v Speaker 6>his opinion of what went on.

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<v Speaker 4>George Young always said one couple of things. He said.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, when you draft a player is just

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<v Speaker 6>as important as who you select. So value is important.

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<v Speaker 6>He said to me, yours when I basically when I

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<v Speaker 6>started ESPN, you got it. You gotta get a voice,

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 6>coach mail, you gotta get that ball, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 6>that Baltimore accent out of that. You gotta lose that

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<v Speaker 6>Baltimore accent. George, I said, Charles, I'm not going I

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<v Speaker 6>gotta change it. Whatever I am, I am, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>not it doesn't resonate, and his voice isn't getting done.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not I can't change my voice. George, you got

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<v Speaker 6>to get that Baltimore accent and lose it. You're never

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<v Speaker 6>gonna have any chance. So it was funny all the

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 6>conversations I look back to with George and like Earady

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<v Speaker 6>of course, and my great friend Jack Faultner with the

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<v Speaker 6>rams was phenomenal back in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Today, I mean, all the way, all the way through

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<v Speaker 6>my career between Jack.

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<v Speaker 4>Ernie George, save it for your Hall of Fame speech,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, they give that up. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of people in the lake that hate me.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I got a lot of a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>They have hated me for a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not think anything NFL related to the Hall

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<v Speaker 6>of Fame whatever, that will never work hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan No, Uh, I'd say, pace yourself, but you're not capable.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, good to talk to you. As always.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, appreciate it. Path take Everyboddy mel kiper draft expert.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's full mel that's mel unplugged, forty second draft

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I've known him thirty five thirty six years.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been that way, He'll be that way wire to wire.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the draft you can listen to the final episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of the First Draft podcast with Melfield, Yates and my Greenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>available wherever you get your podcast well, close up Shop,

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<v Speaker 2>Last Call for Phone Calls, What we learn, What's in

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<v Speaker 2>store tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition

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<v Speaker 2>Last Call for Phone Calls? What we learn? What's in

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<v Speaker 2>store tomorrow? This day in sports History, I have some

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<v Speaker 2>over unders here with DraftKings Draft picks, Shardoor Sanders. The

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<v Speaker 2>over under is eight and a half. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>been that way for a while. But you have Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Dark twenty four and a half, Ashton genty six and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, Mason Graham out of Michigan five and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tyler Warren the tight end out of Penn State

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<v Speaker 2>over under nine and a half. For entertainment purposes only

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<v Speaker 2>this day in sports history, Paul, what do you.

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<v Speaker 7>Have for us soaking into that Ashton genty over under

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<v Speaker 7>for a little bit. That's wild Our all time favorite, Dan,

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<v Speaker 7>one of our all time favorites. This Day in Sports History.

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<v Speaker 7>Nineteen eighty runner Rosie Luiz won the Boston Marathon when

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<v Speaker 7>she crossed the finish line in a record time of

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<v Speaker 7>two hours and thirty one minutes and fifty six seconds.

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<v Speaker 7>After investigation, she was stripped to the honor with evidence

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<v Speaker 7>showed that she didn't run the entire race. She slipped

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<v Speaker 7>in with about four miles to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Why break the record?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you get greedy. You know, Bonds didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to hit seventy three, Like if he hit sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>then we might go, okay, seventy three. Uh uh yeah, Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a great video of her after the race, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>within a minute after the race, doing an interview, and

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<v Speaker 7>she is not very winded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's see what happened on this date. M Joe Scarborough,

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<v Speaker 2>not that Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe or cup of Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>A fifty year old self employed electrical contractor. In twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>he rolled the first nine hundred series in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of the Professional Bowlers Association. He opened up with three

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<v Speaker 2>straight perfect games thirty six consecutive strikes. Congratulations, Joe Scarborough.

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<v Speaker 2>That was twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty impressct if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hold on, let me think about it. Oh that

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>is impression thirty six straight. Yeah, good thing. I had

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to think about it, or I wouldn't have thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was that always that.

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<v Speaker 3>One pin that's wiggling and it doesn't fall for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to So we're heading to Green Bay, will

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>be there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and final results of the

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>poll question during the final hour of the program, Ton.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them was if I bought an expensive piece

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<v Speaker 3>of sports memorabilia like a jersey, I would eighty four

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<v Speaker 3>percent say frame it's a display in my Homer office,

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 3>twelve say sell it on eBay or something to make

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 3>a profit, three percent wear it in public from time

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 3>to time, one percent gifted to someone I know we'd

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<v Speaker 3>really love it. And the other one is who are

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<v Speaker 3>you rooting for to win the West? Thirty four percent

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 3>say Oklahoma City twenty five, Golden State twenty one, Lakers,

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<v Speaker 3>poud right behind twenty Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Todd doing the duties, I said, duties filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Seaton Kevin in Austin, Hi, Kevin, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 11>Hey Dpe, thanks for fitting me in.

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<v Speaker 12>I just I have a hard hitting question as known

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 12>to be used on your show. Of all the aerial

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 12>displays you've put on it and practice arenas, I believe

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 12>there was one in Prehoenix, the Dallas one you spoke of.

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<v Speaker 12>I didn't believe there was one at Indiana. And then

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<v Speaker 12>my one seed has to be the infamous U Mass.

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<v Speaker 11>Shoot off that you had when Coach Kal was there.

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<v Speaker 11>What what would you what would you say?

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<v Speaker 4>Your number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that one had to do with dunking. So there

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was one in UMass. There was one at Marquette when

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Kevin O'Neill was there and I was putting on an

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 2>aerial display. There was the one at Hinkle Field House

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<v Speaker 2>where George McGinnis, the great Indiana pacer, was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be my color analyst on a broadcast where we did

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<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin Green Bay believe or not. Tony Bennett was playing

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>in that game and he said, oh, you can dunk.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, I can do more than that, Georgia,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:55.479
<v Speaker 2>and then I said I cannot shoot you, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>like what I said, yes, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do that because we're in Indiana and other place, George,

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably try to embarrass you, but now I didn't

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 2>it would have been bad for his brand and Georgia

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame Basketball very thoughtful. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, there

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>have been some moments and looks. I have nothing to

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 2>lose when I shoot against these guys, nothing and they

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>have everything to lose, and some of them lost some

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 2>credibility along the way. Jeremiah in Indiana, Hi, Jeremiah, how

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<v Speaker 2>were you dp?

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks for taking my call five to five and one

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<v Speaker 11>to ninety five. The best and worst of the weekend

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 11>is in the same event. Best was the Indiana Pacers

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<v Speaker 11>winning at home playoff game, first time at home in

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 11>over ten years. The worst and Adam Silver Commissioner Silver

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 11>was attendance for of it was the ten to eleven

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 11>to thirteen seconds it took for Joannis to shoot a

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 11>free throw. Can the NBA utilize the shot clock during

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<v Speaker 11>free throw shooting the game?

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're supposed to. It gets there. There's been a

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>pitch clock for a long long time in baseball. They

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't institute it, they didn't enforce it, but you're supposed

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 2>to have ten seconds there. Matt in Wisconsin, Hi, Matt.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Dan, this is Coach Hocket from UW Stevens Point

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 9>our passion buckets are full here with you coming into Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 9>We're excited to come over and see I actually got

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<v Speaker 9>both of my kids with me. They wanted to say hello,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 9>and we're driving over the Green Bay. Our best of

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 9>the weekend was we had a women's basketball bank with

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<v Speaker 9>this past weekend. We made the NCAA tournament this past year.

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<v Speaker 9>But I joked with a local reporter, none of that

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 9>would happen without your commitment back in the fall. And

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 9>we're just so excited. We got some shirts for you

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 9>and the day nuts. We got a sweatshirt cooking for you,

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 9>and we actually my wife credit her. We have an

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 9>NCAA tournament participant, Dalli. And then the NCAA rep asked

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 9>me how many players do we have. I go seventeen.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 9>She's kind of my director of operations. She hits me

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 9>and she goes, no, you have eighteen. You got to

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 9>get one for Dan. So we're gonna bring all that

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 9>over to you guys on Wednesday at the bar, and

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 9>we're just so excited to have you in Stevens Point,

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<v Speaker 9>in Green Bay and in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, coach. Look forward to seeing you and the family.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to understand it's Doug Gottlieb's territory Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>Stevens Point, What did I learn today?

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