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Speaker 1: all of my guests are nonnes So let's again this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. So I am super excited about this episode

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Speaker 1: because my guests from episode one, sixties five, I had

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Speaker 1: multiple abortions hit me up in my d M saying

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Speaker 1: that she is ready to share her story about working

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Speaker 1: at a six BROTHO. Now remind y'all, I was high

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Speaker 1: as hell often edible, so I was like, wait, what happened? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It took me so long though, says what you said,

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, wait, what did she say? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Once again, thank you so much for sharing your story. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm great. Thank you so much for having me. I

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Speaker 1: love the conversations you have. I feel like I'm a

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Speaker 1: part of them when I listened to your show so right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like girl talk and life talk and stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: given Oprah from the hood, yes, you know, like new

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Speaker 1: aged Oprah, like it's given Karasha before Karasa. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. So thank you again for having me

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Speaker 1: back of course, So what made you want to share

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Speaker 1: your story? Well, um, I've been writing about my story

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Speaker 1: for a while now. Yeah, and you know, like being

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Speaker 1: a little more open about experiences and like processing different things,

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Speaker 1: and it's just such a great like, I mean, people,

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Speaker 1: there's there are these are things people don't know, if

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Speaker 1: people don't think about, and I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: a movie on my hands. But anyway, Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: a good topic. It's it's a it's a hush hush

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Speaker 1: taboo topic, and I live a life that like people

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Speaker 1: don't even know. Yeah, I always say one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite things about the professional home Girl is one of

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Speaker 1: the main reasons why I encourage people to share these stories,

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Speaker 1: because you never know how your storyline can be somebody

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Speaker 1: else's lifeline exactly. Yeah. So that's that's what's up. That's fire.

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Speaker 1: M So, what were your thoughts on sex workers Before

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Speaker 1: you worked in a brothel? Um, Before I worked at

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Speaker 1: a brothel, I was a dancer. M So I worked

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Speaker 1: in strip clubs. Um, I had been doing it maybe

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Speaker 1: a few years prior. So it's always been like a

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Speaker 1: green light. You know. Sex workers are real workers. They

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Speaker 1: get do a service, just like anybody else. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got to hang out with you, man, because man,

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Speaker 1: you just never know who you'd be talking to these days.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you lived the full life. I definitely

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Speaker 1: have lived a full life. Um. I started dancing when

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Speaker 1: I was Uh, let's say, I've been doing it for

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Speaker 1: a number of years, longer than I ever thought I

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Speaker 1: would be. Right, Oh, you know, typical like college life,

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Speaker 1: like you need to make money and got paid to

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Speaker 1: bills whatever. Um it's given diamonds. Yeah, the names overall

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Speaker 1: overall yeah, um, but yeah, it was always something I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, growing up. You know the stigma is, you know,

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Speaker 1: before I was you know, a dancer, Like I respected it,

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Speaker 1: like it's a great hustle. It's empowering, like if you're hot, right,

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Speaker 1: I want to actually what your name was, but you

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Speaker 1: could tell me off the air. It's a good one. People. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's a good one. So what are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on decriminalizing sex work? Oh? Man, I really it's

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Speaker 1: like it's not a thing yet, Like why why are

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Speaker 1: again I feel like it's it's a real job. Like

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Speaker 1: being desploited and if you're in control all of what

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Speaker 1: it just makes more sense. Um. But because it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not really looked at as a traditional profession, and

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Speaker 1: I mean it is the oldest profession. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: like going to get a haircut, I need like titties

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Speaker 1: awesome Did your friends know about this? Yeah? So my

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Speaker 1: I told my friends. Let's see, they knew I danced,

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Speaker 1: like when I first started dancing. They knew that was

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Speaker 1: a thing, like my siblings working at a brothel. This

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Speaker 1: nobody knew about it. Eventually, I let, you know, certain

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Speaker 1: people know just because you know, there's so many cool

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Speaker 1: you're afraid. Like, look that my friends love me. They

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Speaker 1: know who I am. But yes, now most of like

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Speaker 1: my close friends, they know. What were their reaction? Um,

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Speaker 1: like oh god, like how did you know? Like how

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Speaker 1: did that make you feel? How did that work for you?

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, but you know, people figure it out. They

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Speaker 1: let me thig So I want to say a total

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Speaker 1: of like three months. I was abroad. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: then it's like I was just so curious and like, dude,

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Speaker 1: about three months. So how did you end up there? Like? Google?

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Speaker 1: You know, I did a little Google search. I read

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting, you know, not knowing because when

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Speaker 1: That's my next question, like did you have to? Like

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Speaker 1: some of them have to like audition, some of them

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Speaker 1: had to like fut an application, go on an interview.

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Speaker 1: So what was that process like? So the place I

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Speaker 1: to do a background check on YouTube. Right, they didn't

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Speaker 1: do a background check on me. UM. I did have

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Speaker 1: all that, right. Yeah. And then after you had like

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Speaker 1: it like sexed out? The um? So it was like

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Speaker 1: There was like a woman's um like sitting area, not

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Speaker 1: until your turn. Um. And yeah, you go upstairs and

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Speaker 1: And some of them had double beds. Some of them

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Speaker 1: big tubs. I just had stall showers. Yeah, every room

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was dark, like dark sexy

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Speaker 1: like I'm trying to picture it, like carpeted red carpeted floor.

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Speaker 1: it had like a nice um, low warm vibe in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was cozy, you know, music playing down

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Speaker 1: the hallway. It's given cinemax poorn, yeah, yesh, Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: a porn on cinemax when you watching it like slow

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Speaker 1: and like smoky, right, right. Did you have to negotiate

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Speaker 1: know people are people are great. It's how I know

426
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: you from North Because you want to say harassed bitches?

427
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: I did. I did, Like come on, bitch, you know

428
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: how we talk of her? Oh I don't you know

429
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: other people that's not that's we don't say things like

430
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: that anymore. But yeah, like so up North, like bitches

431
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: is like saying niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not trying

432
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: to be mean, like yeah, so if she slip up, y'all,

433
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: it's it's a term of endear me because I said,

434
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: I always say bitches. Yeah yeah, I'm not trying to

435
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: be like you know right what you Then there were rules?

436
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: What were the rules at the brothels? Um, let's see

437
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: what were the rules? No unprotected sex? Definitely, it really like,

438
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, no unprotected sex. Um, I really think that's it.

439
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Like no drugs obviously, like no drugs, you know, alcohol.

440
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: There were some brothels that did have like bars like

441
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: downstairs and like they allowed drinking, but not all of

442
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: them were the same. So the one I was in,

443
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: you know, no drinks unless someone's like they're coming in

444
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: there paying for the Like hey, this guy is coming,

445
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: he's paying me x amount of dollars. He wants to

446
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: bring champagne. He's gonna be here for four hours, you

447
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But um, you know I've had

448
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: people come in with like their weed pen and like

449
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, I've had people's smoked cigarettes. You know, you're

450
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: not supposed to be girls. But as far as like

451
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: rules on what you did behind your closed door, like

452
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: you could really do whatever you want, like you know,

453
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: as long as you weren't doing anything illegal, like illegal

454
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: drugs and you know, like that's it where you don't

455
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: want me black girl there, No, there was there were

456
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: a few. Um two of them were African, but they

457
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: lived in that country. I think there was another African

458
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: American and they're like at one point, um, but no,

459
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't. Um, there's girls from all over and like

460
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I was so nervous. I thought they were all going

461
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: to be like these bombshell like big titty, like you

462
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: know white girl are like from Eastern Europe or something,

463
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and they I mean there were a lot of the

464
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: girls in there were like, um, a lot of them

465
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: were gay mm hmm um and had girlfriends. But they

466
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: did this for work. Yeah, Um didn't even think that.

467
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Um there were yeah right, I'm like, okay, so you

468
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: I get it though you don't like dick romantically, but

469
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: you'll take dig and like perform for money and for

470
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: a job and like you know a lot of like

471
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: hate men. They're gonna like lead them all do whatever.

472
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: So but they got would be somewhat confusing because you

473
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: can't control the body if it reacts a certain way.

474
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: And I do remember talking to one girl and she

475
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: said she connects better with women. She's always loved women. Um.

476
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: But she also like, was you know a dancer and

477
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: um moved over into the brotheld And then being that

478
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: it's it doesn't it's looked at differently in the country

479
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: that they're in. It was kind of like, ah, it's

480
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: just like another gig. You know, you kind of look

481
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: at sex as um, Like sometimes I look at it

482
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: as like a sport, Like I'm performing a sport um

483
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: with an end goal. My end goal is to get

484
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: this person off and like have as much fun in

485
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: this chunk of time. And it's not like you got

486
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: to be able to take away like the romantic part

487
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: of it in the you know, sexes only for reprocreating, right, Um.

488
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, and what was your schedule like, because I

489
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: know you said that you shouldn't you change your shift,

490
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: but I did you do this every day? Or Um?

491
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: I worked? It depends Like some weeks I would work

492
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: maybe three days or three nights. I worked. In the

493
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: beginning it was like five, I would go in at five,

494
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: and then eventually I started working like ten to two. Um.

495
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: There were times where you would just be like I

496
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: have pulled twelve hour days. There there were some times

497
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: where I was like I lost track of time and

498
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: you're just in it, and like even if you're not

499
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: working the whole time, like you might sit there and

500
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: like i'd bring my laptop so it's like, all right, well,

501
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: no one's coming in right now, it's kind of dead.

502
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna sit here for three hours. I'm like okay, um,

503
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: and then someone might pop in, like and just to

504
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: funk around because no one knows me out here. I

505
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: don't have a life. I do what I want. I'm traveling.

506
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: There were times when I just being there all day

507
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, all right, you tell down to

508
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: the desk, like, I'm off for a couple of hours.

509
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a nap up in one of these

510
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: here rooms, right, I'm gonna run out and get some lunch.

511
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I'll be back, um, and if someone comes in, you'll

512
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: be like, okay, yeah, put me back in the rotation

513
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, like whatever. But my skin, you kind of

514
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: made your own schedule. Um. It was tough though, Like

515
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I will say, you know, we're meant to sleep at

516
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: night and be up during the day, so it was tough.

517
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: Trying to be productive during the day and like work

518
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: out and all that, and then go into work at

519
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: ten and then get off when the sun's coming up.

520
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: But then like when you get up or when you

521
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: get off, sometimes you can't make it sleep right away.

522
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: So now you're out eleven and now you're like, funk,

523
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep and I gotta work and get ready

524
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: at set. You know, like, well yankee for a minute, um,

525
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: but then you just take days off, right. Did you

526
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like it was a competitive spirit there because I

527
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: can only imagine how many girls were there. No, not

528
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: at all, And that's why I was so chill, because

529
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: at the you know, if you're in a club, you're competing,

530
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: you're up, you're walking around, you gotta get But here

531
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: you just go in. Anybody, anybody this is being anybody

532
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: want okay, cool, I'll be over here. Call me. Like

533
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to like convince anybody anything, because I mean,

534
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: guys just want to get off, even when you're telling

535
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: them you're special at your services, like they don't give

536
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: a funk, like come on, I'll give you the extra

537
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: whatever dollars anyway, just like and go yeah, like you

538
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it wasn't. And then you know,

539
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the girls were there. Was never like oh she's sleeping

540
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: with my customer or whatever, not that I experienced. You know,

541
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: the times you have someone that will sleep with one

542
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: girl and then go right back downstairs and pick another

543
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: one and just like get like three of them in

544
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: real quick and go home. Yeah damn. So what did

545
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: a good week look like for you? Um, a good week?

546
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: And the most I made in one week was about

547
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: and that was maybe like four shifts, I want to say,

548
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: like eight thousand dollars, nine thousand dollars, eight thousand dollars

549
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: before Niga's oh no night, nights, nights, days, four days.

550
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so good though, eight dollars dollars. I

551
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: made a lot of money in a very short amount

552
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: of time when I was over there, and obviously when

553
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: I you know, didn't convert to what it, you know, whatever,

554
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: the money, you know, the conversion kind of made it

555
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: look like less. But for what I'm over there, you know,

556
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: doing I'm traveling, I'm not literally just hanging out people

557
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: at night. And right, so wait, so how much because

558
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: you was there for three months? How much did you

559
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: make it three months? Oh? Yeah, frus no. But now

560
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting I just got to be after this episode,

561
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: but just gonna be at the brothels man out. I

562
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: want to say in that three months time, I mean

563
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: about like thirty thirty five thousand dollars what which converted

564
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: to twentysome thousand maybe a little less now I don't

565
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: know what it would convert to because this was years ago,

566
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: but um, yeah it was it was lit How much

567
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: did you have to pay the Bronthel Like, how is

568
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: that system set up? So they would, um, you'd have

569
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: your set whatever the price was, and just like at

570
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: the club, they get a certain percentage um right then

571
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: whatever you the upgrade, if a customer does the deluxe

572
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: or upgrade, you keep all that, you know or any

573
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: to keep all that. So sometimes you might just get

574
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: a basic you know booking, and then by the end

575
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: of it, you've made like an extra couple hundred or

576
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, extra to here, extra whatever. They're just in

577
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: tips and you know, talking having a conversation, the person

578
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: might be like, oh, you're cool, here's an extra hundred,

579
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: get your nails something like. But the club had their

580
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: set percentage that they would take, which was it was fair.

581
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't as much. Um, because I know in Nevada

582
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: they take like they do fifty person off at won't

583
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: know it was less than that, Like I wouldn't have

584
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: been Nevada, Like I don't. I've never worked in the

585
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: US doing that. This was just a moment in my experiences.

586
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like what I've heard about Nevada is

587
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: it's very like I always hear negative things, like they

588
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: take a lot of money you have to like they

589
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: make you work, Like I always hear negative things. Yeah,

590
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna say the own their name, but

591
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: this nigga is taking you absolutely not. Yeah, I work

592
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: that was owned by a woman. M whe there you go,

593
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: you know, owned by a woman. I did work. Um,

594
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: I went to another city one weekend and worked at

595
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: a different place. Um, they took a little bit more money.

596
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: I think it was run by men. It was just

597
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: like different. I feel like I got really lucky with

598
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: the place I went to was so laid back and

599
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: chill and like well that ran it were just chill

600
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: like you. Then when I went to the other one,

601
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: it was in like another you know, another city. I'm like, hmm,

602
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I wonder what the rest of them are like if

603
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I go to the city or that city, like, are

604
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 1: they more like in your pockets and in your ship?

605
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: But you blessed with a good one. Yeah, So what

606
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: are some things that you wouldn't do? Um? So I

607
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: am not a fan of like anal. Yeah, I didn't

608
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: do an anal. No. I I am not um kind

609
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: of thing. No anal. I mean as far as like

610
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: any of the um like the fetish stuff like or

611
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: like whips and chains, and I like, you know, you

612
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: can like tie me up a little bit. I don't

613
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: mind like certain things like that, but you know, I

614
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: feel like anal was the biggest and I didn't let

615
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: people go down on me. Um. Yeah, certain people, like

616
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: there were people that were recurring customers or like you know,

617
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: you just get like a feeling and you're just like funking.

618
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: I trust it and then you you don't regret it. Um,

619
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: but not not every person could, like you know, and

620
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't kiss unless like they paid me extra. Yeah.

621
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: It's hard to like have sex if you're not kissing. Right.

622
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, just kissing that's kind of intimate. So

623
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: you don't know what niggas mouths men, right, and like

624
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: we did provide like toothbrushes and flaws and like mouthwash

625
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: in the rooms too. Um, but yeah, anything else I

626
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't do. I don't think so really just like animal um.

627
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: But when they go down or are they use because

628
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: they have like condoms for the tongue, right, they have

629
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: dental damns. Yeah, yeah, they do have gentle dams. So

630
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: what type of clients did you have? I'm like, but

631
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: who knows? So everybody, like, I mean, they were like

632
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: I took a lot of virginityes I did. I took

633
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: a lot of virginities. Um, people coming from the office,

634
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: people coming from school, people that just everyday, people just

635
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: coming and going. Um, I mean people from India, Asia, Africa,

636
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: all over the world. You know. I'm a lot of

637
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: people didn't know where I was from, like by looking

638
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: at me, because then they're like, oh, I guess I

639
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: gotta find out. But yeah, just people you know, young, old,

640
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: not too I don't think I really had been with

641
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: anyone like super old, but like all I would say

642
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: between the ages of eighteen, which you had to be

643
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: to get in and like yeah sixty five, so um yeah,

644
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: people from from all over really just every day and

645
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: then you'd be like tang like everyday people and they

646
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: just walking down the street and they go on this

647
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: building and here, and they're getting their dicks. Like that's crazy.

648
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: And then we too, Like I would leave work and

649
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: just be a regular as bitch, and like you know,

650
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: I'd get off early, so I go get breakfast and

651
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: like go do some errands, and I'd just be out

652
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: and about, Like no one even knows that I was

653
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: just up like sucking ten different people last night. That's

654
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: just crazy to think about. Like what I'm saying, you

655
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: just can't judge a book by its cover, Like, oh, wow,

656
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: how many pretty dicks have you seen? I know you've

657
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: seen a lot of. Yes, I would say I saw

658
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: more not so good ones, like not like there are

659
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: some pretty ones, but um, a lot of like different

660
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: shapes and sizes. And I think I want to write

661
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: a book about this or like make something about this

662
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: because there's so many deck sizes. Like you know, you

663
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: have the ones that like go in like like any

664
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: belly like any auty kind of situation. Um, they're usually

665
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: found on people that have a little bit more like

666
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: belly fat and like the pupa area. Um, you know,

667
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: I wish I could see our faces. Uh, but yeah,

668
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: a lot of because of you know, I wasn't in

669
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: the the u US, A lot of people were not circumcised,

670
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: which I mean I've I've dealt with that like in

671
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: my personal life before, like um not had a partner,

672
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: you know, way before I was working at Raffalo that

673
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: wasn't circumcised. Um. There's a lot of that. Um No.

674
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like any extra meat town. Yeah,

675
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's a lot like help girl and

676
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: like I hate stereotis and ship. But I had a

677
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: guy from Africa already knew it and oh my god,

678
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: like we had to cancel because it just wasn't going in, yeah,

679
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: because it's too goddamn big on that extra me. It

680
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: was so big we had we had to cancel um

681
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: and he just went on and like picked somebody else.

682
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: But it was just like, I mean, it was like,

683
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, now we have to discrond how big

684
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: is that? That's like, uh like the size of the

685
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: uh ar a Mason jar Um opening. Oh he want

686
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: to fuck your ship? I know. I was just like

687
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: it's you know, loub and all that. I like, it

688
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: got in the shower. I'm like, listen, na money back.

689
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. What was your

690
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: favorite experience? Oh? Um? Oh he was in love with

691
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: this one. And I only remem because I just I

692
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: was just writing about it the other day or like

693
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: rereading some of the stuff that I've been writing. So

694
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm writing a book about this, um and about my

695
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: basically taking my journal entries from that time and turning

696
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: them into like short stories. Oh yeah, how Abria can

697
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: support That's amazing. So um, I had someone he I

698
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: don't even I don't know his name, like he was

699
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: never seen him before, just uh came in at like

700
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: five thirty, strolling in in the morning, just like I

701
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: just remember being like half awake and like, oh, there's

702
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: someone here. They want to hang okay, And it was

703
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: just like the energy that went between us, it was

704
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: like something I had and experienced and this was a stranger.

705
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: So it was just like like we barely even spoke

706
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: words to each other, but we just had like this

707
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: really good energy and like I like broke the rules,

708
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: like I let him go down on me because I

709
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: was just like, uh, I just remember being mesmerized. After

710
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: he left, he was like he was Greek um and

711
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: he had like uh oh he was cute too. He

712
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: was Greek, really cute. Um barely spoke any words, like

713
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: we barely exchanged words. It was just like energy and

714
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. And like when he when he left,

715
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: I think he was going he worked in like like

716
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: construction or something where you get up early as hell,

717
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Like he's up early, he's going into work. He had

718
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: like a like a vest, like a bright orange like

719
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, like that's or something like work boots like

720
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: steel so boots. And he came in for forty five

721
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: minutes and yeah, that was it was like a thief

722
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: in the night or some ship. You just came in like, oh,

723
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: I know what happened. He made me square all over

724
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: the plane. Oh wow, grinned. Yeah, it was yeah, I

725
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: forgot to throw that in there that I had like

726
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: an amazing orgasm. It was just like and you know,

727
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't you don't really have them when you're I

728
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: mean I didn't have them every time. It was just

729
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, get you off and get

730
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: you on your way. But to be able to have

731
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: like a really good one, and it was like I

732
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: had to like flip the mattress when I was done,

733
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: and like notify the front desk, like you may want

734
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 1: to get someone up there. You should have been giving

735
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: him some money, like show me t if you come back.

736
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: You ever come back? I never saw him again. That

737
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: was towards the end of my time there. So um,

738
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: maybe within a few weeks I was like that done

739
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: exploring that country, but never came back. Um. Wow, there

740
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: was a few. There were a few where it was

741
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: just like like just really nice or like the conversation

742
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: was cool, and then they end up extending their stay

743
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: and next thing, you know, just like lying around, like

744
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: not even having actually like laying around and like talking

745
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: and laughing and like being ridiculous and then right, nice

746
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: to meet you, have a nice day. What was your

747
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: worst experience? Oh man, let's see my worst I would

748
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: I can't think of any in particular, but I do

749
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: know that there were times where it was like if

750
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: someone came in and they were just super wasted. It's

751
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: like Friday night, like three am and they're coming in

752
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: with all their boys and like you know, it's when

753
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: people are just like trying to kiss you and then

754
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: you don't want them to kiss you, and I just

755
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: need to get sunk out of here, or like you

756
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: got cooked dick now and here you are, right, how

757
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: was my problem? If you got to go you're cooked,

758
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: is now my issue? Like? Um, those like more like

759
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: annoying occurrences where you get like, yeah, someone that's just

760
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: like off their ship. You're like, would you write? Or

761
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: then they don't come You're like, all right, well, I

762
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: don't no one told you to come in here with

763
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: whiskey eggs, Like I don't I know what's say? You know,

764
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: I feel like when you think about like sex prothos,

765
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: I feel like they get a really bad rep And

766
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: I also think it depends on how you view things

767
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: and with everything that's going on and just your views

768
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: on sex and every and when it comes to sex work.

769
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like for the most part the research

770
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: I've been reading and I feel like a lot of

771
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: women are saying like they feel safe and protected. Yeah,

772
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean, because you can easily go do that job

773
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: and work out of a motel or a hotel or

774
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: your house or like I know, I've known new of

775
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: girls in the clubs that would like you know, sell

776
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: themselves in the clubs even like to or meet people

777
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: later and like she gets this, she gets sketchy. You know,

778
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: but you're in an establishment where it's protected. There's security cameras,

779
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: not in your room, but there's cameras, and uh, people

780
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: know that if they go in there and start acting up,

781
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: they're going to get arrested and thrown out. So it's

782
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: like you're only dealing with people that are safe. Right,

783
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: You're safe as long as you're in that space. That Now,

784
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: if you decide you want to meet someone you met

785
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: at work outside of work, now that's on your not

786
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: saying that we weren't allowed to. But Wen, they can't

787
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: protect you if you're not on their operating right. Yeah,

788
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: and what made you decide to leave? Um, I was

789
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I was going coming back to the United States anyway,

790
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: Like my visa was up, I was coming back to

791
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: the States. But yeah, it was it was experienced, so

792
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been legally allowed to work anyway. Mm hmm.

793
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: Would you go back? Hell? Yeah, I almost went back. Um,

794
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, I called, I'm like, Yo,

795
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: this is someone so I remember I was there a

796
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: two thousand and whatever. Um, I'm like, if I come over,

797
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: but I don't have to work visa, like can I

798
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: still work? They're like, we would love to have you

799
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: because you're amazing, but that's illegal, right right, Like alright, fine,

800
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: but if you wasn't good done a visa back, I mean,

801
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: if I could, like now at this stage in my life,

802
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, like I think it was.

803
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: That was more of like like I wouldn't move my

804
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: life over there to go do that. Like that was

805
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: more of like in the moment while I'm here, I

806
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: was allowed to go down, let me give it a go. Um,

807
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: But now no, mm hmm. And is it hard for

808
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: you to be intimate in your personal life? No? No,

809
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, I feel like that I learned

810
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: so much from that job about myself, about my stance

811
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: on like sexual empowerment. I learned a lot about men,

812
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: about their bodies, about like I mean, because you're sitting there,

813
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: you're talking to people about their relationships sometimes and it's like,

814
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like all of the experiences I've

815
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: had in you know, in the club and in that

816
00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: environment has really built like this confidence and like I

817
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: don't even know what the word I'm looking for is,

818
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: but you know, when I'm in my personal situations like

819
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: I know how to make people feel good. I know

820
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: what I like to feel good. It feels good to

821
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: make people feel good. It feels good knowing that people

822
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: think you look good and feel good, you know what

823
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Like that it's easting. Yeah. So, last, but

824
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: not least, what would you say is the biggest lesson

825
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: you've learned about men from working at the sex brothel? Um,

826
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: they're simple mm hmmm, um, simple last niggas. Simple last

827
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: niggas I want and I don't even want to like

828
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: simple as like oh my god, you're stupid, but like, no,

829
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say stupid in many ways, Um, what's

830
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I've learned? Because I know you had

831
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of like oh my god, like ah

832
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: ha moments. I think I learned more about myself too. Um,

833
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: but I would say, like for men, Yeah, they're they're simple,

834
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: Like they need certain things. Um, a lot of them

835
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: view sex in a way that they don't live. Like

836
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, might be you know, relationship,

837
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a lot, but it might

838
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: be in a monogamous relationship. But like to them, like

839
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: sex is like okay, like it's not just for one person.

840
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: Like I've had those conversations where people are like, yeah,

841
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I'm married, I love my wife,

842
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: like it's just sex. Like a lot of people have

843
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: that view, which I did not really think that way.

844
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: I think I think that men were thinking that way.

845
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: M Maybe it was the cultures I was dealing with

846
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: two and like just being in a different country. But

847
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, you had a lot of people that were not,

848
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: you know, single, right, But does that make you look

849
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: at men differently? Mm hmm, not really, because I feel

850
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: like not everything is like black and white. Everything nothing

851
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: is or isn't. It's just it's gray, you know. Um,

852
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't judge people by what they want

853
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: to do, what they do, you know, whether they're cheating

854
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: or just fulfilling a need or whatever. Like I try

855
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: really hard to just be like it is what it is, Like,

856
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. I can't say if I look

857
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: at you differently, like it is what it is? Right? Okay, Last,

858
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: and at least again, looks the biggest thing you learned

859
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: about yourself? Then, um, see the biggest thing I learned

860
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: about myself. Dang, there's something I want to say some things,

861
00:53:53,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: but I mean this is anonymous. The biggest thing I

862
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: learned about myself is that I my experiences have definitely

863
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: affected me being a sex worker, whether it was dancing

864
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: or that little stint of brothel, like, it definitely changes,

865
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: um my view on like you know, relationships, gender, roles,

866
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: sex like everything, and um, I'm learning how to navigate

867
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: that and I'm learning how to how do I put

868
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: other people in my life? Um, you know, in a

869
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: romantic way, or it doesn't have to be a romantic way.

870
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: Like I've been really learning about like who am I

871
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: as a partner or as a you know, lover or whatever? Um, no,

872
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: you got found on it? Come on now because you

873
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: know I'm over Like, come on, I'm a man eater.

874
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: M hmm that's what That's what comes to mind first,

875
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: But it sounds negative, so I need to change that term. Um.

876
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I definitely have learned how to get what I want

877
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: right with what I got right sexual for him, um,

878
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: and just really trying to like and this is why

879
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm writing that book too, because it's like there's so much,

880
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: there's so much to unpack, like what is you know,

881
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: what is the calous? Like why why did I why

882
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: did I jump into the sex life in the first place? Um,

883
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: But doing the work and then seeing the way it

884
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: affects the people I work with, it's like it's all good, right.

885
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: Where do you think that's them from? Though? That's funny.

886
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that when I was just today

887
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: when I was like thinking about this interview, and like,

888
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: because I figured you to ask me that question, like

889
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: where you get the bottom of it? Yeah, um, I

890
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: don't know, but I wrote it down because that's definitely

891
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: something I want to talk to my UM, my therapist,

892
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: my spiritual healer. I don't think it's I feel like

893
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: it doesn't come from a most people would think, you know,

894
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: strippers and sex orders, they they have like a void

895
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: that they're trying to fill so that they go into

896
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: these this line of work and they're trying to get

897
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: something they got daddy issues or like whatever, and it's

898
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: like or they need to feel loved or like I

899
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: don't even I don't think it's any of that, you know.

900
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: I think it just stems from like knowing, um, like

901
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: having that like sexual power, knowing where women you know,

902
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: as women were always put down and we're you know,

903
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: told we can't do something, and you know, men get

904
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: to do everything and to be able to just like yeah,

905
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: be in control and like so many different ways. Um,

906
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, in the bed, outside of the bed and

907
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: the club out. It is just like it feels good,

908
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think it comes from lacking

909
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: love or lacking you know, something, or like running away

910
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: from something like I think it's literally just like I'm

911
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: the fucking ship. You know. I'm thinking about it too,

912
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: because you know, I go I haven't going to therapy

913
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: on and off over six years. I love my therapist. Yeah,

914
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of things that we like

915
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: to do, it does them from somewhere We just don't

916
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: know until we like really like it's the reason why

917
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: you want to be in control and you like how

918
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: it makes you feel, and like you know, it's easy.

919
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna deal with people. You just get what

920
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: you want to keep it moving. Mm hmm. Then it

921
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: comes to fine line where it's like is it healthy though? Yeah?

922
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: And see that's where I I always make sure, you know,

923
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: as I go through life and do certain things, I

924
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: do stop and I reflect a lot, you know, just

925
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: going you know, is this gonna mess me? Up like

926
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: is this unhealthy? Like how will this affect me? Later

927
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: my first night at the Propo, I literally went home

928
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: and I wrote about it, and I was just like,

929
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, we'll come back to this, Let's see how

930
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: I feel and like and going through my journal and

931
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: reading like you know where I was at those times,

932
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: like it seemed pretty you know, I seemed pretty healthy

933
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: and like in control. You know, sometimes you think you're

934
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: in control, but you're actually out of control. You and

935
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: the most ship like there be times like I'm not

936
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: doing the most. I don't think so I think we're good. Right, Well,

937
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. How did you sibilant your sibilants know

938
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: about this? Right mm hmmm um So I told them

939
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: like years later, like after um, there's like okay, Like

940
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: my sister, one of my sisters was like, oh yeah,

941
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of figure like I didn't doubt it.

942
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't like assuming, but like um, and they're just

943
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: like yeah, why not, like if that's if it's not

944
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: illegal and you feel good about it as long as

945
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: you're safe. Yeah, And it's like for me, like I

946
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: don't know if I could that could be my career.

947
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: Like I met women who have been doing every like

948
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: ten years, Like, I don't know if I can. That's

949
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: a lot of nick. You take breaks. You make good money,

950
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: and you take breaks too. I mean that's what I

951
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: do with dancing. I would make good money and then

952
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: I take like six months off and other projects and

953
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: other jobs. But um, yeah, the siblings were like, you know,

954
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: more power to you. They ain't gonna line to be

955
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 1: a lot of sex workers. Man. And the money, Oh

956
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: my god, amazing. Yeah, it's it's not bad, you know.

957
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean you do have your your seasons where it's

958
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: not as lucrative, but that's any other sales job, I guess,

959
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: or service job. So well, I appreciate you coming on

960
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: the show and share your story. I mean, I know

961
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna do numbers. I don't know too many

962
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: people that's interviewing women of color. Yeah, money, this is true. Um,

963
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: I just want you know, it's important, Like I said before,

964
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: it's important to have these conversations and like just put

965
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: things out there because people have questions, people make assumptions

966
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: about everything about all the topics that that you've brought on,

967
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: and just you know, clear the air for anything, or

968
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: just say like, hey, here's my experience. Like whatever you

969
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: saw on TV or whatever Netflix show you were watching

970
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: might not depict right. So wait, do you think that

971
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: one day sex brothels will be more legal and more states?

972
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: I hope. So I mean, listen, PhD, don't work out, y'all.

973
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: You need a madam. We're about to open a brothel list.

974
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay's so funny. I do want to interview a madam.

975
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's gonna happen though, because I feel like

976
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting closer and closer to um certain people and

977
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: my my friends there are sex workers hold down, So

978
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, y'all, Okay, I don't know, see,

979
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know any any like uh, you know Bronthels

980
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: in the US. Yeah, overseas, but they out here, I'm

981
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: sure to see. I feel like a lot of them

982
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: might be on some illegal but this is anonymous, so

983
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, and then I probably have to um

984
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: alter their voice for protection reason. You can do that. Yeah,

985
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: I can figure it out. You trying to miss? I know, right,

986
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: you know I'm taken down, right, but yeah, I appreciate you,

987
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely when you are ready to show your book,

988
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: I hope I'm one of the first people to read. Yeah,

989
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: definitely coming back on the show. I'm trying to get

990
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: it done. I think next year it'll be it'll be

991
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: out there. Yes, yes, But if y'all have any questions

992
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: or comments, like a service so you want to say

993
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: hey girl, hey, please email me at hello at the

994
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: PSD podcast dot com. And until next time, everyone later, bye.

995
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Practice safe sex. Yes, don't don't let these niggas that

996
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: a y'all. Yeah, no, we adn't do it that. This

997
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 1: is the right one now. I'm just playing safe sex, y'all.