WEBVTT - Ep. 48: Over-Stripping for Swedish Pacu 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.000 They bite because they're hungry, and testicles sit nicely in 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.560 their mouth. Seriously, these guys couldn't have stripped any hotter 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.920 if that'd been killed on the day. Move on to 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.840 the next plug, and can you start map? You know 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.960 it's gonna take you a few years. It's not freaking 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.200 internet overnight ship. I'm sure I missed a couple of 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.919 fish die off catastrophes, and if I missed one of 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:27.880 the ones in your area, let us know where you're 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:33.000 not catching fish anymore. Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.640 to Bend to the fishing podcast that you insist wasn't 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.240 as big as you thought it was the second it 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.159 snaps your line because you were high sticking. I'm Joe 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:45.080 Surmelli A Miles Nulty, and I appreciate that intro very much. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:50.960 Thank you, because if there's one constant in the angling 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.760 community among us anglers, and I don't care who you are, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.800 what you fish for, how you fish, whatever, how long 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.680 you've been doing it, we all lie, and we particularly 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.800 lie and we lose fish. It's just something that we 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.120 do absolutely and I can take it, and I can 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.080 take it a step further like um in many respects. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:10.800 You don't even have to hook it, Like, how many 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.680 times have you been fishing? Right at least I do that? 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.840 You get hit, you botch it for whatever reason, and 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.800 somebody else on the boat sees it happen and goes, 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.600 did you just get bit? And the reaction is so 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.039 often Yeah, yeah, it was a little fish. Though it's 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.240 a little one. It's a little guy, a little twelve inure, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.399 but it could have been a twenty in brown and 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.039 you know it, and you're still gonna say that, Yeah, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.880 that's that's yeah, that's kind of my That's interesting because 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.040 like too, if I'm being honest here, and I usually am, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:45.920 I go the other way, like because any fish that 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:52.600 I'm lose or miss are monsters. To clarify, I might 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.320 have lost a monster. I'm just saying I never know, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.080 but like in my mind, that's what I tell myself 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.960 and others who are around me. If I don't catch 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.880 the fish and I don't, I think it's personally because 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.760 I get so jacked, Like if none, if it's a dink, right, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.600 I'm not saying like I turn a four inch or 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.079 into a trophy, but if I hook a good fish, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.760 my mind will just conjure at image, like I'm I 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.120 get this image of of something that's much larger than 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.520 what's actually on the line. Oftentimes, when I think I've 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.760 got a good one, that I do land it right, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.000 like like I superimpose the image of the fish that 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.040 I want to be fighting onto the fish that I'm 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.679 actually fighting. And if I land it, the fantasy is 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.680 out the window, it's gone, it's shattered. But if I 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.840 lose it, I get to hold onto that fantasy and 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.200 that remains the biggest fish anyone in the boat has 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.040 ever seen. Wow, that's see, that's interesting, see because this 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.000 is where we differ, Like where where where you're like 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.240 hopeful optimism crashes into my my pervasive cynicism. Hey, this 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.480 is what happens. So so you get all juice stuff 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.880 and imagine greatness. I'm just assuming the worst all the time. 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.960 But it's like this. It generally happens when I'm fishing 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.880 with other people, Like it only works like I need witnesses, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.399 and I swear it's almost like involuntary, But I think 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.000 it happens more out of anger and embarrassment than anything. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.640 Because when I lose a fish, like and I know 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.280 it's a big one. I just want to move on, 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.560 Like I'm inside, I'm seating, and I don't really I 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.560 don't really like yeah, like I'm saying like that's that's 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.000 that's my point. Like you have like a fish come 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.040 up and flash your streamer and like somebody else on 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.400 the boat sees that line, godink and did you get 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.840 bit and like you were sleeping on it or whatever 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.240 it is right, and it's like I'm a bitch. That 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:37.800 was twenty two inch brown, Like I'm like, yeah, it 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.880 was a little one. Because I don't really feel like 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.960 dissecting like why that just happened and how I just 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.960 set up. I just want to move on, like I 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.880 don't want to dwell on it, so my gut is 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.760 not to be like, oh that was a freaking giant 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.480 because then you know people are like, well, why didn't 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.680 you should have done this? Why did you strip him? 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.960 Or once you pause, I just want to move on. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.440 You know, you you painted mind is optimist stick and 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.240 but I I think my way is just as much 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.040 an ego thing as what you're talking about. Like I 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.000 want everyone in the boat, including myself, to think I 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.840 just hooked mega that they missed right, like they didn't 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.920 get mega. I did, even if I even if I 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.120 missed it, right, I see it that way too. Yeah, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.800 I can, this is true. I remember the details of 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.919 big fish I lost, down to every little iota of 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.640 the weather, where I was, what I was doing. I 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.400 can go back more than thirty years and recount exact 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.799 stories of big fish I lost. Those ones. They stick 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.919 with me, sure, I think. I think the story that 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.279 encapsulates the point that we're talking about right now. I 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.840 was fishing the Yellowstone with my closest fishing buddy at 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.000 the time, and the conditions. It was one of those 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.680 days where you just you knew, big trout we're going 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.280 to get caught. You know. We're on the ass end 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.479 of runoff, and the water was high, but it was 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.400 dropping and it had that emerald green like the oh 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:01.240 that beautiful, and the flow was like it was high, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.520 it was ripping, so all the fish were pushing into 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.240 the soft water on the banks, the big fish and 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.960 the little fish. And when that's going on, I mean, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.840 you know what's happening. The big fish is just chowing 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.520 on all those little fish because they got no place 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.840 to hide. And we were doing well on this particular day, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.839 like we were consistently getting solid fish, but we hadn't 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.719 got the fish we were after and the one we 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.120 knew we could get that day. It was just one 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.839 of those days. And I made this perfect cast into 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.400 the soft pocket and I just got slammed. Right. I 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.240 was fly fishing this, I was throwing streams. I was 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.120 throwing a nine weight for trout, and I could not 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.480 turn this fish. It was a big, heavy, stink tips giant, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.640 giant streamer, and like I got slammed and I could 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.040 not turn. It takes off straight up stream. I'm fighting. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.359 I fight it for like I thought it for a 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.960 good thirty seconds before the hook pulled. Now, I never 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.440 saw that fish. It is very possible that I gaffed 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.480 a sixteen incher right in the side and that thing 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.159 turned into the current and just dragged me. Right, But 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.240 that's not the story that I tell anybody else who 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.960 was there or myself or were you right now, Because 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.200 in my mind, I know I had a thirty in 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.440 brown that this is this is too good, right, this 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.919 is too funny, because the story I have, man, it 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.760 is exactly like that. But I came to the exact 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.160 opposite conclusion. So I was mousing for Browns at night 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.039 with my buddy Joe Dimo Theris, who's been on the 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.359 show several times, and man, it was it was a 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.039 really slow night, Like we went miles without touching of fish. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.520 And you know what happens when that happens, like you 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.440 start to start to like zone out a little bit 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.640 um and then out of nowhere, just when you start 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.320 to zone out, you get jacked. And that's exactly what 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.960 happened to me. And just like your story, I swung 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.880 on this fish and I could not move it. I 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.000 just could not move and I was only fishing a 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.680 sixth weight I think. And this fish, it gave me 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.360 three big headshakes but I don't know how to describe 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.560 them other than wide, like it wasn't like a fish, 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.720 just like jiggling its head real fast, like a little shaker, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.359 Like this was like the wall wall and it's pulsing 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.040 the frigging rod And I got I got these few 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.480 shakes out of it and in the fly pole, and 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.720 I instantly go, that was really weird. I wonder if 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.520 that was a foul hook fish, right, I just and 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.040 I I knew Darren, well it wasn't. But I just 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.920 went to the instant downplay. Also advantage because it's dark, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.280 so it's like, how much did Joe really see? Right? 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.400 I couldn't have seen what just happened right then and there. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.560 And Joe d who keeps it real always just like, no, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.239 that was a giant ass brown trout that you just lost. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:47.600 So same story, nearly identical stories, different mindset, totally opposite reaction. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.320 I will say, I'm convinced, however, that either of us 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.600 were throwing a poppy mcpop face from thirteen Fishing, those 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:02.480 fish would have stayed pinned because then the sticky probably yes, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.600 but then I wouldn't have been mousing or fly fishing. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.840 But I can attest to the sharpness of the hooks 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.960 on that particular papo. Also sharp is our ability to 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.760 just work in a plug for our sponsored thirteen Fishing, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.400 Just like that. We talk a lot about thirteen rods 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.560 and reels, but you, uh, you should, you should not 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.200 forget their lures. We have in the aforementioned and beautifully 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.200 named poppy make pop face. Uh, it's just no kidding, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.120 It's just a well made, just badass all around popper. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.680 I'm a big fan of the clear perch pattern for 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.960 Smalley's So I have not thrown that one. I'm gonna 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.320 have to get that an arsenal. And I'm glad to 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.240 know there's a fish out there that you still know 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:44.400 how to land, but put trouble on it and you 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.160 can get them in, because apparently we both suck at 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.280 landing big trout, but personal shortcomings aside. It's it is 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.040 appropriate that you brought up night fishing for truck, because 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.600 that's what's happening in the story. We've got for smooth 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.000 Moves this week. This is part of the show where 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.920 we let guide and captains and shop kids and anyone 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.920 else in the fishing industry tell us tales of dumb 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.719 ship their clients have done. And we're bringing back our 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:12.680 good friend and ozark trout grew Steve Daly. It makes you, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.560 it makes you feel any better. At least you got 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.280 the chance to like field those three headshakes. You've got 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.439 the connection with your giant night brown for a few seconds. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.360 Because the dufus and the saga we're all about to hear, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:38.679 he never got that chance. Why back again is the 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.440 the the man, the myth, the legend, the infamous Steve 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.600 Daly who it's been too long since we've actually talked, Steve. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.120 I don't know how long ago was that we had 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.600 last had you on, but whatever it was, it was 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:57.400 too long. You've been too busy, like making money or whatever. Right, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.920 so you've been you've been out collecting move moves stories 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.880 about stupid ship that's been going on, and supposedly you 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.120 have a great one for us. So yeah, I think 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.800 we need to explain that. Like as busy as as 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.280 Steve is, like you came to us, you were like 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.800 I need I have to tell this story. So this 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.400 has got to be, like it's got to be a 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.520 good one. Okay. So I've had these two reprobates in 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.600 those of the boat that I know quite well, and 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.160 they've called me into taking them night fishing because it 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.560 is going to be and it has the prospects. There's 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.360 some rising water coming after dark, and there was an 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:38.080 unusual water pattern that we don't usually get. Anyway, We've 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.760 got in a dark and it's beautiful evening floating on 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.160 get down the river, the sun setting, it's all picturesque, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.920 and we start fishing and there's there's one instruction I'm 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.040 trying to give all night because some buggers aren't listening. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.400 Is slow down, That's the That's always been the key 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.199 for me. Did you get out there and you think, hey, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.000 I'm going to catch a big fish. It's it's all 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.520 going to happen, and the adrenaline and cast at the 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.800 cast more cast more, cast castre that's what we're doing. 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.480 And it's like slow down and slow down and repetitive, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.760 mind numbingly repetitive instruction. The guide sitting there in the oars. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.120 So we've managed to go along. We've pulled up, and 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.040 the fish is not great, partly because they can't actually 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.079 track down the flies. They're coming back at the speed 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:27.800 of sound. And seriously, these guys couldn't have stripped any 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.040 harder if they've been fueled on cocaine. All right, So 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.680 we've got down and the night's gone, and we've got 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.200 one small brown that fells that stupidly swam into the fly, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.760 and we've got a few rainbows that you barely want 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.400 to talk about, and we've got down to the end, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.120 and seriously, they've almost worn out the beer. There's one 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.920 beer left on the boat. As we come back to 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.400 the last little rock shelf from this, a little bit 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.880 of turbulent water on the downstream side, and it's like, well, 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.920 we're going to pull up here in it. This is 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.720 my last shot right the boat ramps at seventy yards away. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.400 I'm trying to get these guys in a fish because 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.480 I'd really like to see them catch a good fish 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.480 for at least the effort and factually worn the fingers 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:15.040 out scripping um. Did I mentioned they should slow down again? 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.800 This is about how the conversations going. And we're sitting 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.280 there at this edge and just like they've just whipped 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.760 it through and you know, it's basically a swing. Just 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.120 stay in contact with that fly and let it happen. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.280 Wait for the bump. And finally one of them sits 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.320 down and says I'm done. I'm gonna have the last beer. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:35.760 And the other one in the back is just like, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.679 I think he's tangled up or something stupid. And I 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.760 did the stupid thing. I said, let me have that, right, 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.520 let me have and it's a boat ramp fish on board. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.719 I've been trying to work out how I'm going to 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.839 tell these guys and it's like, just spin the evening 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.040 out for another fifteen minutes. Let's go spaghetti my and 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.920 a couple of glasses of red wine and you know, 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.040 and enjoy the evening. And I make three casts. The 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.040 second one I feel this tap and it's like, oh, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.120 when I don't say anything. In the third cast, whap 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.360 hits it said him to it. It comes back and 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.600 because it's night fishing, it comes back like a log 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:23.360 to Yeah. Yeah, they don't pull that, and seemingly at 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.160 night and this thing just comes. I want to talk 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.200 about that when you're done. But that's interesting you bring 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.680 that up. I've noticed that too, that they don't fight 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.800 at nate. They don't fight it nate, not like not 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.400 like a daytime. And you know, we shine the light 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:41.240 over the side, and here's the fish and I'm looking 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.800 at now I'm feeling really bad. The boys are actually 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.600 quite exciting because it's the first indecent fish they've seen 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.040 all night and the fact that they're idiot guy has 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.160 swung the rod Joe man, you know, the saddest but 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.720 the old story. You know, you know who the idiot burned. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:04.800 The name was no Viles, Bloody Dolty. Wait a minute, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.440 this was all about you, that was this was all 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.640 about me. This is my smooth move in Daly's boat, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.080 because here's the scene. But we're talking smooth moves. We've 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:22.360 all done them, guide not guide, whatever, journalist, photographer, We've 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.160 all done that stupid ship. And that's the Isn't that 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:30.040 the fishing? You took a whole night flow in Arkansas 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.880 and just burned your flies all night long. I will, 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.320 I will, I will admit, I will admit to him 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.920 to do this. I should also say this is purely 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.160 an act of hubers, because at that time I was 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.360 at the height of my guiding career. I really felt 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.800 like I was dialed into the streamer scene in my 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.080 local waters, and so I was fishing it the way 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.080 I knew was gonna work on the big brown shop 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.640 for me. And Dally kept saying, like, you know, you 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.000 might want to slow down, and I'm like, I know 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.400 how to catch big brown shout, like I know how 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.720 to fish stream dude, Like I appreciate it, but I 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.240 know how to do this, And I would not listen 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.960 until he literally said, well, let me have a crack 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.400 at It took three casts and stuck at twenty seven 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:10.760 right in front of me. It was it was one 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.360 of those It was one of those times I will 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.640 never forget because I I had to take that humility 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.360 pill to recognize that even if I think I know 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.840 the situation, that I know the style of fishing, that 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.320 I know the fish, I don't necessarily know it everywhere 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.200 and I was wrong. It's fascinating to me though, because 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.440 I feel like that's a lack of It's not trout 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.480 fishing ability, it's like night fishing ability, because everything you do, 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.880 like even striper's like you're throwing a black plug at night. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.040 It's like, how do I reel that? Like pain? Everything 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.560 is slow? Like I feel like that's any predator fishing 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.920 at night slow as the way to go. So was 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.280 that was that like A had you not night fished much? Then? 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.920 I mean I have had. I have night fish, but 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.760 not nearly as much as you two guys. I think 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.040 that's true. You don't. The rivers around here are not 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:01.000 necessarily safe to float at night because water. I feel 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.360 like I need to reciprocate and now like dig up 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.160 a guide who can smooth moves me because I know 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.720 that they're out there. This took me way off. At 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.720 what point in the story did you realize this was 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.640 about you? I imagine as soon as you started up, dude, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:19.080 Oh you said, of course, I don't. I feel like 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:26.040 a horse's ass. No work perfectly funny. I think it's hysterical. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.680 But at the end of the day, this is less 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:33.040 about smooth move. Seriously, this is this is not about 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.240 just customers. We just get to get the stories because 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.000 we see more of them. It's about stupid people doing 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.440 stupid ship when they're fishing, when it comes down to it, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.680 and that's the that's the joy, because yeah, I get 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.640 people in my boat all the time when you comers 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.760 and go yeah, it's like you don't need to be 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:55.360 any good to love this game and have a great time, right. Truly, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.240 I hope that every story I tell about clients it's 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.480 because I love those clients and I love those other 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.040 bits because they're really funny. Doesn't mean I don't like them. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.720 That's the thing about this guy. We all screw this 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.800 up all the time, and embracing our own screw ups 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.560 and being able to laugh at him with our buddies 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:22.680 is half the fun of fishing. What a twist man 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.480 for everyone listening, No joke, I honestly had no idea 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.080 that was going to be a story about Miles I was. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.119 I was genuinely surprised, and I actually, man, that was 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.320 that was very well played, beautiful played. Thank you, thank you, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.480 I was, I will. I will say I was proud 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.520 of that idea when it came to me when I 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.119 was not sleeping one night, I was like to do 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.119 this because we we dog on all these random strangers 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.280 in the the statement, right, and most of them, most of 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.879 them probably deserve it. But it's not like you were, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.199 I are above criticism, right, Nope. We we did that 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.359 whole show a couple of weeks ago about flexing and 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.680 fishing and sometimes sometimes it's easy to fly X when 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.320 you're the guide. And this goes for paid guides and 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.120 informal guides, Like anytime you're in that kind of role 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.080 of of leading, you're on your homewater, you know what's 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.680 going on, and you get to sit there and critique 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.680 someone else's fishing, but you never actually have to fish yourself. Right, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.600 And and when I get thrust out of my comfort 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.440 zone and I have to be the angler on someone 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:24.160 else's boat, on their water, not knowing exactly what I'm doing, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.119 there's a good chance I'm gonna screw it up. And 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.840 I admit that I learned from it, but I screwed up. 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.399 I commend you. I commend you. I thought I was 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.120 burying my soul talking about downplaying the size of some fish. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:38.399 I goofed, but that was next level, So good on you. Um. Anyway, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.720 let's find out who our audio engineer, Phil is going 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.400 to commend this week. Following the Battle Royale we tend 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.800 to sometimes now and again referred to as fish news, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:55.399 fish news. That escalated quickly, So we mentioned last week 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:59.280 that we'd be unveiling a pretty significant contest this week. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.600 More can then the previous contest. And if you subscribe 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.760 to the Fishing Weekly newsletter, and we hope that you do, UM, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.199 you you already know what's up. Okay, you've got the 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.000 inside track. But for those of you that don't pay attention, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.280 because um, one of you is going to get to 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:20.120 be on bent with me and Miles. That is correct. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.440 One lucky winner, one very very lucky winner, super lucky, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.280 so lucky. It's gonna get to record a smooth move 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.159 segment with us. It's gonna be remote. We're not like, 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.320 You're not gonna fly out to sit in Joe's home 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:39.280 office or my spare bedroom slash office slash child playroom. 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.960 But we do want to record your story about the 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:49.800 most idiotic, insane, funny, crazy, or just what the thing 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.840 you've ever seen or done while out fishing. That's right, 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.480 and to sweeten the pot, said winner will also get 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.919 him or herself a swag pack of meat Eator fishing 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.280 peril and stickers. Plus we'll throw in some bent stickables 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.639 because that's what we do. But I mean, the bigger 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.679 payout is obviously the fifteen minutes of quasi semi fame, 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.760 if you'd call it for for you and yeah for 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.760 you in the world of degenerate anglers, so true, all 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.119 your other degenerates will be jealous to enter. All you 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.600 gotta do is go to the meat eater dot com 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:29.280 slash get bent all right, follow the instructions, share your story. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.800 You can write as much as you want. I'm gonna 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.000 get I'm gonna give you a little hint here we 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.920 are into the whole brevity thing. We are less is more, 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.040 So give us the gist, give us, give us the lure, 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.240 the hook, whatever you whatever you wanna call it. Uh. 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.360 This contest is open to everyone, but you bent die 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.400 hard to know what we like and you know how 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.160 to get our attention, So we're we're privileging you. You do, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.280 you do, and you've got until July to enter and 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.320 get our attention. We'll pick a winner. Miles and I 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.600 are doing the picking, of course, shortly after that, and 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.520 set up a time to record with you, which is 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:08.200 seriously very easy and chill like. It's not a scary production. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.879 Anyone can do it, you know, So don't worry. You 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.240 don't need a microphone, you don't need you You just 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.080 need to be able to talk and tell a good story. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.760 We'll do this and we'll all hang out, will crack 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.520 a beer, will shoot the ship digitally for a bit. 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.440 It's gonna be good times. You know what else, though, 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:28.520 is a really good time m drinking beer or other 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.120