Speaker 1: What's up everyone on Tory Deal?
Speaker 2: And I'm Anissa Ferreira and this is MTV's official Challenge.
Speaker 1: Podcast, And Nisa, we are almost done this season of
Speaker 1: All Stars.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a like on a show
Speaker 2: where they're like, hey, by the way, all of you
Speaker 2: have made it to the final except for you guys.
Speaker 2: Now you guys sit back by the RV and have
Speaker 2: a corona? Is a wine or is that a corona drinks?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: While Veronica was like, I'm gonna wear all black and
Speaker 2: drink this wine, I was like, yes, girl, me too.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about how Veronica has had the luckiest
Speaker 1: season of all time? In the back, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like it is luck and and her politicalness and
Speaker 2: she's smart and she has good relationships, and it goes
Speaker 2: We've said it the whole season. I mean, relationships really
Speaker 2: go far to the fact that your best friend were
Speaker 2: one of your closest friends a star and you've kept
Speaker 2: it like it was a deer present, which it was,
Speaker 2: and no one tired to take it from you, dude.
Speaker 1: And then you get to watch everyone else compete to
Speaker 1: enter into the final while sitting on a lawn chair
Speaker 1: holding a flamingo.
Speaker 2: Like embracing a flamingo having a wine.
Speaker 1: It was a vibe. I mean, this episode all around
Speaker 1: was really exciting. We got to see the challenge, we
Speaker 1: got to see more people get locked in to go
Speaker 1: to the final. But I think we should dive into
Speaker 1: the challenge a little bit because that was an intense challenge. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely saved the harder, the harder one for the end.
Speaker 2: The run itself, Like I'm like, oh God, that terrain.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I mean, I knew Derek was going
Speaker 2: to take off, and when you saw his lead in
Speaker 2: the beginning, I'm like, ah, none of yaga catch up
Speaker 2: to him. And then you see that god forsaken rope.
Speaker 2: And if you've ever held one of those ropes, which
Speaker 2: all of us have, they are huge and they are heavy, heavy,
Speaker 2: So it's not just taking like a tiny little like
Speaker 2: whatever ropes even had in his bag. Those aren't not
Speaker 2: like the bondage ropes.
Speaker 3: These are real, real heappy prope.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not the bondage rope.
Speaker 3: Otherwise they would have undone it.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the lineup when they were all
Speaker 1: sitting there and you know, getting ready to go. You
Speaker 1: have Adam talking a bunch of shit with those goggles on.
Speaker 1: I wanted to take him so serious, and then I
Speaker 1: was just like, you can't see the qutie pie in him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then when he has
Speaker 1: goggles strapped to his face, he's just like So he
Speaker 1: was up there looking looking like a little cutie pie
Speaker 1: on the line. And then we have Laurel who looks
Speaker 1: like she's absolutely about to dominate. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: have been terrified to be on that line with her.
Speaker 1: And then you see Derek up there, Ryan and Flora,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking when they're when they're giving everybody's speeches
Speaker 1: about like how they're going to compete, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: they didn't give Flora a speech, and TJ's like ready
Speaker 1: and she's like, actually no, and I'm like, she doesn't compete,
Speaker 1: which I was pretty shocked by it, just because she
Speaker 1: had made it so far, you know, right.
Speaker 2: But I think at some point it's like, what's more important,
Speaker 2: you know, is my health and my well being or
Speaker 2: do I push it to the point where my quality
Speaker 2: of life may be a little bit I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: being a little dramatic, but my quality of life may
Speaker 2: be affected for a period of time. If I do
Speaker 2: go through with this, I mean, if you know that
Speaker 2: you've given every single part of you and you are
Speaker 2: fine and happy with that, and you know with this
Speaker 2: lineup that you have zero chance, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3: Maybe when she sees the.
Speaker 2: Final she may have regrets, right, which is why I
Speaker 2: think that we have no regard for her own safety,
Speaker 2: because we're like in eer, no, it's gonna happen, dude,
Speaker 2: you never know, you never know what's around the corner.
Speaker 2: But I do respect her decision as somebody who probably
Speaker 2: should have taken some of that advice and put it
Speaker 2: in my pocket. It it takes a lot too, I think,
Speaker 2: even more so to say I'm done than it is
Speaker 2: to just fight through it.
Speaker 1: Yep, I think so.
Speaker 3: So shout out to Flora.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I loved the way she said it.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, because these girls, you know, if
Speaker 1: I'm in the game, then they won't get a chance
Speaker 1: to be in the game, and.
Speaker 3: Which I thought was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she ended with grace add a little bit of
Speaker 1: humor to it, and then really, we only have two
Speaker 1: girls competing. It's Avery and Laurel competing for that spot
Speaker 1: and looking at the lineup. Obviously no offense to Avery.
Speaker 1: She's obviously an incredible competitor. But Laurel is a beast,
Speaker 1: so my money was on her. But then for the guys,
Speaker 1: it was really a toss up for me, Like I
Speaker 1: really wasn't sure how it was going to go between Derek,
Speaker 1: Ryan and Adam. But then once you see Derek take off,
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, Wow, he's probably got this
Speaker 1: one in the bag too.
Speaker 4: How do you think you.
Speaker 1: Would have done on this one, Anissa, Well, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this much.
Speaker 2: It depends on how long that run was. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was that long. I feel like you
Speaker 2: just needed to get there. Yeah, but you know, I've
Speaker 2: definitely dealt with that rope a little bit, and I'm
Speaker 2: great in the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think, and I'm a good swim. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I would have done okay.
Speaker 2: I hope I would have got my star, But knowing me,
Speaker 2: I already would have went into elimination. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: either would have I either would have had the star
Speaker 2: or yeah, you know, but how do you think you
Speaker 2: would have done?
Speaker 1: You know, I think I would have done okay. I
Speaker 1: I think what really took me by surprise. When I
Speaker 1: first looked at it, I'm like, Oh, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to swim that distance, but then they're actually going to paddle,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, wait, that is I think if
Speaker 1: I thought it was a big equalizer, I thought more
Speaker 1: people were going to be good at the paddling. But
Speaker 1: clearly not.
Speaker 2: Take into account a circle, right, Yeah, what are boats
Speaker 2: not circles? They have points and points so that they're thin.
Speaker 1: Because wow, Anissa, I know of how they had to go.
Speaker 2: So the thing is, if you're paddling, if you go
Speaker 2: too much to the right, you just spin in a circle.
Speaker 2: So that's why they did the short movements in the
Speaker 2: front to the sides, because you didn't want to go
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 3: You had zero control. Wow over that. It's like swimming
Speaker 3: on a disc.
Speaker 2: Like it might look easy, but I think because Laurel
Speaker 2: was sitting in like a crouching Tigris thing, and she
Speaker 2: has a long tourso she could really put a lot
Speaker 2: of her weight like directly in the middle and kind
Speaker 2: of figure out a way to go through it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it looked like she had been doing this
Speaker 3: for years. But Laurel is so good at whatever random
Speaker 3: saying they throw in her face.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, and it was no surprise that she was
Speaker 1: able to get the star out first as well as
Speaker 1: a Derek. You know, they really had such great seasons.
Speaker 1: They crushed a lot of challenges together and dominated, right,
Speaker 1: So I was, yeah, really impressed. I did feel bad
Speaker 1: for Adam, you know because obviously, like yesterday he had
Speaker 1: a star, today he's going far. I tried to try.
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, that didn't work. That really didn't work at all.
Speaker 2: I think that you should probably you didn't get a star.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you my no star for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's fair. Yeah, but you know what,
Speaker 1: it sucks because obviously he's got to go home. But
Speaker 1: you know what I did notice he gets to leave
Speaker 1: with Avery, and after having him on the podcast, I
Speaker 1: think it was you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's a win win, if you know, it seems like
Speaker 3: a win win.
Speaker 1: So that's a cute little moment to have. And then
Speaker 1: obviously Derek had to say bye to Ryan. But all
Speaker 1: of them had such great seasons that it was beautiful
Speaker 1: to watch. And now they get to take a little
Speaker 1: van into the final with TJ. I love that road
Speaker 1: trip intro with.
Speaker 3: The glasses and TJ's just whipping them through. You know.
Speaker 2: TJ's not doing like a leisurely stroll. He's whipping an
Speaker 2: RV through the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't care, he doesn't get.
Speaker 2: I love that he's getting to be such an interactive
Speaker 2: part I know, dude, he really is.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They should have put him on a circle and made
Speaker 3: him paddle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was the best when he was like when
Speaker 1: Caara was like, she's tucking me, he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's your sister. I'm like, wow, it just.
Speaker 2: I wish I was, you know, right right, But it
Speaker 2: made sense, yeah, that way.
Speaker 1: But who would have thought that they would have been
Speaker 1: driven to a final? That was what we're seeing so far, which,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is not very final esque. It's very
Speaker 1: much like multiple little challenges which listen at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the challenge gods can do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: A final is still a final. They can make it
Speaker 1: however they want to make it, and you just have
Speaker 1: to accept it. And that is sometimes the beauty of
Speaker 1: the final. You think you're gonna put your money on
Speaker 1: the best runner or most the strongest person, but no, actually,
Speaker 1: this time around, you have to put your money on
Speaker 1: somebody who's not afraid of getting shocked and who can
Speaker 1: shoot a paintball gun on top of a moving car,
Speaker 1: so it can really go anyway. But my money's on
Speaker 1: I don't even know who.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have money on this at all. I
Speaker 2: don't like to bet. As is definitely not betting on
Speaker 2: this shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that this is
Speaker 1: anybody's game. And Leroy is an incredible shooter on incredible shooter.
Speaker 3: So he's got two kids.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm oh my god, Anissa, Okay, we both.
Speaker 3: Don't get a star for today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the precision of a barber though, man, Like,
Speaker 1: he really was moving through that really really well. I
Speaker 1: was impressed by Veronica. She looked like a badass on
Speaker 1: top of that car, and she also moved through that
Speaker 1: star really well. I'm terrified of Ace, like he doesn't
Speaker 1: give a shit.
Speaker 3: I love that was like that. I would have done that.
Speaker 1: I love that dude is savage. Savage.
Speaker 2: Still not putting my money on anything, though, I think
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say that we don't
Speaker 1: know how this episode ends because they left us on
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger. But the good thing is, yeah, we hate that,
Speaker 1: But the good thing is we have Derek Chavez coming
Speaker 1: on the podcast to spill the tea in a little
Speaker 1: bit before we get there, though, Anissa, who do you
Speaker 1: give your gold star of the episode two?
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of want to give it to Veronica?
Speaker 2: Do tell she didn't she didn't even have to go
Speaker 2: into elimination. Yeah, and she got there. Now she's just
Speaker 2: chilling having a wine and a hat watching this. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just want to give her a damn star because
Speaker 2: it's because it's Monday, and I want to give her
Speaker 2: a star.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 2: I also want a duel star it because I think
Speaker 2: Derek just killed it, killed it all season and then
Speaker 2: he just he's fighting for so much too, and you
Speaker 2: could see how emotional and important all of this is
Speaker 2: for him on such a larger scale. I think for
Speaker 2: a lot of them, you know, like this is like
Speaker 2: such a queer dominated final too. I think that representation
Speaker 2: is super important and I love that we just have
Speaker 2: all types of people from all walks of life just
Speaker 2: killing it by any means necessary. And I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: just happy we get to see something.
Speaker 1: Like this I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: I think this final, the cast is amazing, and I
Speaker 1: actually want to give my gold star to Leroy because
Speaker 1: he played an effortless game, now effortless, I'd say, a
Speaker 1: flawless game. He went in there, he got his star,
Speaker 1: he locked himself into the final, and then he also
Speaker 1: just won that first round. So I'm just gonna give
Speaker 1: Leroy some extra love right now because that was an
Speaker 1: incredible performance. For the fake screams, because those were hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah shit, but I'm gonna I'm gonna give out my
Speaker 1: notes story. Yeah, I want to give out my not
Speaker 1: start to Nicole for that bake cry. What the fuck
Speaker 1: is that to get Laurel's attention? That was just that
Speaker 1: was like, that is just that's too low, that's too low.
Speaker 2: I was upset about it because I really thought she
Speaker 2: was hurt, and then I realized she was not. And
Speaker 2: it was so impressive that she could cry like that
Speaker 2: and she had the I mean, I believe some of
Speaker 2: those high pitched screens though, I feel like she was
Speaker 2: really yeah, but the crying though, I'm like, I felt
Speaker 2: bad for one second and I'm like, you're lying.
Speaker 3: It's not nice.
Speaker 1: It was the look at the camera. That was mischievous,
Speaker 1: that was wrong, you know, and I feel like Laurl's
Speaker 1: gonna watch us back and be like wow, like that
Speaker 1: she's going to realize the reality of what it was,
Speaker 1: which is kind of messed up. But enough about that,
Speaker 1: Let's get into a more exciting thing, which is our
Speaker 1: interview with Derek Chavs. Yes, so stay tuned, we'll be
Speaker 1: right back after this.
Speaker 3: Okay, enough of that, Let's get back to the show.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, this is our favorite part of the
Speaker 1: podcast where we get to interview a very special competitor.
Speaker 1: This person absolutely dominated this season. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: even stress the amount of times that we were just
Speaker 1: impressed by the athletic performance and the overall gameplay. Derek
Speaker 1: Chavez has been on two All Stars. Now he's from
Speaker 1: the real world, Cancun, and today he is here to
Speaker 1: spill all the tea on All Stars for Welcome.
Speaker 4: Derek, Yay, grabbing me back.
Speaker 2: Finally, listen, I don't know who you borrowed those legs
Speaker 2: from or where they came, or maybe you had them
Speaker 2: just like for backup.
Speaker 3: You are fast at shit.
Speaker 2: We saw you on one in this in the stadium
Speaker 2: where you had to run to the seats. I was like,
Speaker 2: is anyone else even like participating in the challenge within
Speaker 2: because you were like so far ahead And then we
Speaker 2: see it in this episode too, I'm like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: not beating Derek in a foot race.
Speaker 3: I had no idea that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not just stead either, it's the no.
Speaker 4: But this is the thing, like, and I stressed, and
Speaker 4: I I talk about this all the time and I've
Speaker 4: said it in multiple podcasts and everything. I was like,
Speaker 4: I never get the chance. And it's not because I'm
Speaker 4: bad at challenges. I've never I've gotten last maybe two
Speaker 4: times in my entire challenge history, like gotten last to
Speaker 4: where that sends me directly into the final. I always
Speaker 4: just get voted in. People just keep voting me in,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, bro, like, let me at least try,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah. So the fact that I was super
Speaker 4: happy that I got to showcase and I think it
Speaker 4: was I don't remember which on his first I think
Speaker 4: it was the Bubblehead one that that was the one
Speaker 4: where I'm like, I definitely show showcase that I can
Speaker 4: run fast and with this big ass things on our
Speaker 4: head and which ramp that hill.
Speaker 2: But it's it's different being capable there because there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are capable of running, like,
Speaker 2: but you're like, it's different, Like you're fast than most people.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like, oh, I didn't know you could
Speaker 2: do anything athleta, it was Yeah, I didn't know you
Speaker 2: were that fast.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think what it's coming across as is like, you know,
Speaker 1: when Jordan competes, he's just that much further ahead of
Speaker 1: the pack, and you're like, Oh, this guy just he's
Speaker 1: on in.
Speaker 3: This All Stars world.
Speaker 1: You are giving that Jordan energy in terms of how
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 1: I really want to see what it's all like when
Speaker 1: the world's collide, if that ever happens in the future,
Speaker 1: because you are just putting up such an incredible show. Dude,
Speaker 1: You're crushing it, and like you said it, like it's
Speaker 1: been amazing for you personally to like be able to
Speaker 1: show that side of yourself. What has it been like
Speaker 1: watching this episode back and then being able to get
Speaker 1: your star and lock yourself into your final.
Speaker 4: I mean so throughout the entire season. For whatever reason,
Speaker 4: I just had it in my mind. I don't have
Speaker 4: to go into an elimination. There's gonna be an opportunity
Speaker 4: for me to get a star somewhere I'm not gonna have.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to So the two times that I
Speaker 4: was able to maybe get in there, I'm like, this
Speaker 4: isn't my time, this isn't my time. But then TJ
Speaker 4: was like, well that was your last time to try
Speaker 4: for and I'm like, nah, there's there's something still going on.
Speaker 4: But as soon as he told us like, this is
Speaker 4: your one last opportunity, I'm like, here it is. This
Speaker 4: is my I'm gonna this is my way into the
Speaker 4: final And it was crazy to me because it was
Speaker 4: annoying because all the star holders were just there getting
Speaker 4: to drink and everything. We had to like put on
Speaker 4: the show in front of room. But I knew once
Speaker 4: that was on the line and it was either get
Speaker 4: that star go home. I knew I was getting a star.
Speaker 4: There was no way anybody was gonna be and.
Speaker 3: You were the first person done.
Speaker 2: I mean I heard from Ryan that those little disc
Speaker 2: things that you guys had to paddle on were like no.
Speaker 4: There were a couple yeah, And for whatever reason, so
Speaker 4: I was in the water first and I was going
Speaker 4: I could not thrust my hips the way that you're
Speaker 4: supposed to. I'm like, oh yeah, there was times when
Speaker 4: I like spun the all the way around and was
Speaker 4: spinning like I could not get straight, like, and then
Speaker 4: Laurel just gets in there, just as if she's done
Speaker 4: it her whole life and just goes ahead.
Speaker 3: That's her.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So then when we get to the middle of
Speaker 4: the star too, it was crazy because she had been
Speaker 4: in that she had been in the middle for a
Speaker 4: little while, Like why is she still down there? It
Speaker 4: was the hardest thing. They made it seem like we
Speaker 4: were gonna be able to like be above and still
Speaker 4: like breathe. No, you had to go all the way
Speaker 4: underwater and all of this rope to the edge of
Speaker 4: the star, and there was a key on each point
Speaker 4: of the star, so you couldn't go to the same
Speaker 4: point that somebody else did. So once that key was gone,
Speaker 4: like you had to go to a different point. So like,
Speaker 4: could you say shitty as it was for Ryan and Avery? No,
Speaker 4: I mean you could, but it was like murky water.
Speaker 4: But if if Ryan and Avery were able to actually
Speaker 4: get to that star and to the and get their keys,
Speaker 4: they would have had to done the furthest two points
Speaker 4: in the back because we had gotten the front ones.
Speaker 4: So but then we start going again and I started,
Speaker 4: I'm the first one, like take off, and then Laurel
Speaker 4: just takes off again, Like Jesus, how is she doing that?
Speaker 4: She had already been in that slop And then to
Speaker 4: be able to get in there and finish before everybody,
Speaker 4: that was cool, Like I was. I was super happy.
Speaker 3: Like what was slop? I was like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: So they told us what it was. It's not mud
Speaker 4: whatever it was. It was all on the top and
Speaker 4: there was still water below it, so it was floating
Speaker 4: on the top of this watery There was a word
Speaker 4: that they used for it, but it was it was hot.
Speaker 4: So as soon as you got in there just literally
Speaker 4: like sucked your body and it was just like heat.
Speaker 4: It was just stayed in there for a while and
Speaker 4: something I don't know what the.
Speaker 2: Hell poop it was poopsu Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was glitterally.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like a little little elf
Speaker 4: took a ship in there because it was really glitterally too.
Speaker 1: So production walked over with a little vial of glitter
Speaker 1: and was like and this.
Speaker 4: I do like this because those those keys that they
Speaker 4: gave us, Ryan ended up getting his too, so he
Speaker 4: made me a and him a necklace with our keys.
Speaker 4: So I have my key store sweet and it didn't
Speaker 4: show it, but I gave it. I gave him my star,
Speaker 4: so I gave him the stars that I gave so
Speaker 4: he could. Yeah. But after everything, yeah, after everything was done,
Speaker 4: we all stayed another week because it was my birthday,
Speaker 4: so we stayed. We stayed there, so it was cool.
Speaker 4: So that's what's amazing. That's kind of like what our
Speaker 4: our goal in the beginning was, like, obviously we want
Speaker 4: to win, but we really wanted to just like hang
Speaker 4: out with each other. I love it.
Speaker 1: You know when you when you first saw what the
Speaker 1: final competition was to get that last star, did you
Speaker 1: think to yourself, obviously we saw in your interview like
Speaker 1: you felt the spirit of your sister with you, which
Speaker 1: was so moving. Did you think just looking at the
Speaker 1: challenge at itself that you were going to be good
Speaker 1: at it? Did you have any nerves whatsoever?
Speaker 4: I had nerves with the paddling, but when there was running,
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, well I'm getting definitely getting into that
Speaker 4: tree first, Like there's no way anybody's be to me.
Speaker 4: But that rope, I mean, you guys have fucking dealt
Speaker 4: with These ropes are two hundred pound ropes.
Speaker 3: Or so heavy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that took a little while longer than I
Speaker 4: wanted it to. But like, once getting in the water
Speaker 4: and getting to that star and then I was the
Speaker 4: first to get out of it, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: I got this, But I was a little ner. You mean,
Speaker 4: you're always a little nervous, even though you know you're
Speaker 4: capable of doing whatever. There's always that one little chance.
Speaker 4: Like Adam was super close. He got into that sledge
Speaker 4: right after me, and I'm like, holy shit, Like I
Speaker 4: was way ahead and now he's here, So there's that
Speaker 4: chance to right, they could somebody could just take it
Speaker 4: away from you, you know, So seeing it, I was
Speaker 4: ready for that because that's what I trained for, and
Speaker 4: I was I was hoping that was like kind of
Speaker 4: an indication of maybe what the final is going to
Speaker 4: be like.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, it looks like that might not be what
Speaker 2: the final is gonna be like. But nah, I do
Speaker 2: have a question before you guys even start. Flora is like,
Speaker 2: excuse me, I need to say something. Were you expecting her.
Speaker 2: Did she talk to you guys before the challenge? Did
Speaker 2: you know that she was that injured or Flora?
Speaker 4: This girl, this lady fucking got flung and got rope burn.
Speaker 4: She had bruises everywhere. I mean, she put up through
Speaker 4: a lot. So like I kind of had it in me.
Speaker 4: She looked bad to start with it. So the fact
Speaker 4: that she was still contemplating maybe running it was was
Speaker 4: very respectable. But like, yeah, no, we knew she was
Speaker 4: something was gonna happen. And you guys have been to
Speaker 4: South Africa before. You guys think you were there for
Speaker 4: Worlds or whatever. It's just it was the same. The temperature.
Speaker 4: It was so hot that first challenge with the app
Speaker 4: in the apple orchard, Veronica almost couldn't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was bad. It was hot, and I had I
Speaker 4: think we still happened. I still have a tan from
Speaker 4: that first day.
Speaker 3: I don't know how y'all got the hot South Africa
Speaker 3: because we did not.
Speaker 4: We got the hot South Africa and we're like, all right,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a water challenge. Nope, there's gonna be
Speaker 4: a water challenge. Nope, there's gonna be a what Nope,
Speaker 4: we didn't do fucking water challenge until like challenge eight
Speaker 4: or nine. I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they wanted to see. You know what,
Speaker 3: when we do give you.
Speaker 2: A water one, we're gonna make it like this little
Speaker 2: tiny plank that you're gonna have to run off of.
Speaker 4: How hey, I mean obviously you guys thought I was
Speaker 4: Ryan on that when he was doing his little kitty
Speaker 4: cat crawl up the things she did.
Speaker 2: She crawled, Yeah, yeah, listen by any means necessary. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I would kitty cat mew up there too.
Speaker 2: Tori has an inner cat. She made pussy cat crawl.
Speaker 4: It might be the new.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, But I'm so proud of both of you because,
Speaker 2: you know, as much as there they try to have
Speaker 2: like representation and whatever else, Like, it was just so
Speaker 2: nice to see it because it wasn't, you guys.
Speaker 4: Representation as being like the gay boys or whatever, but
Speaker 4: like that whole final had me Nicole, Veronica Laurel.
Speaker 3: It was a queer final.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very that's amazing.
Speaker 4: So I was super proud of that, but especially.
Speaker 2: For you guys, especially for you guys, though, I think
Speaker 2: that it's nice to see it.
Speaker 4: And I finally got to play a game where I hadn't.
Speaker 4: I've never gotten like the chance to play a game
Speaker 4: where I have like a social part in it, Like
Speaker 4: I had friends in every corner, so it didn't matter
Speaker 4: what happened, Like we always took care of each other
Speaker 4: regardless of where we were. And I've never been able
Speaker 4: to do that, so be able to be able to
Speaker 4: skate through and not because I was avoided it, like
Speaker 4: because I was afraid of whatever. But I skated through
Speaker 4: and not had to see an elimination and made a
Speaker 4: final and had the most wins out of any guy
Speaker 4: in that Will challenge. Like it was awesome starting the
Speaker 4: way I started, because I was like, it's an individual game,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna chick ass. And then I fucking get last.
Speaker 3: Watch this.
Speaker 1: Yikes, you just had to warm up a bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You really carry. You really carried
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, like you really did,
Speaker 1: so you really got to put yourself on the back
Speaker 1: for that. And yeah, it's been so beautiful to watch
Speaker 1: you this season, like you said, even for a viewer,
Speaker 1: we're like we get to see what you are made of,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time ever, like really getting
Speaker 1: to see it, So yeah, that's just really cool. And
Speaker 1: then that it's happening later in your career, whereasas most people,
Speaker 1: you know, what happens earlier, but you get to shine now,
Speaker 1: which is so amazing. And I want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about your sister again because I know last
Speaker 1: time we had you on the podcast, we had discussed
Speaker 1: this because this was your All Stars Too experience. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know we got to talk to you
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, and now again, like tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about what it's like competing for
Speaker 1: your sister and feeling her energy and how you've been
Speaker 1: as you know, time has progressed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously people will want to tell you like
Speaker 4: it might get better, it gets easier. It doesn't, and
Speaker 4: there's there's times and especially there like I I cry,
Speaker 4: But I cried so much on this challenge, and it
Speaker 4: was mainly because I felt her and I was wanting
Speaker 4: to make like, I know, she's always going to be proud,
Speaker 4: you know, like there's that's not a question in my mind,
Speaker 4: but to be able to like prove and stuff, you know,
Speaker 4: because this is what I wanted to do on All
Speaker 4: Stars Too. And I was ready to compete on All
Speaker 4: Stars too, and then it just unfortunately this happened and
Speaker 4: it took that chance away from me. So I was
Speaker 4: just like, I don't want that to be like my ending,
Speaker 4: you know, So to be able to come down and
Speaker 4: do All Stars four and then actually showcase what made
Speaker 4: me really happy too was Leroy out of all people,
Speaker 4: was like, Damn, I didn't know how good you were.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm gonna make sure that everybody knows how
Speaker 4: good you are. Like it's not He's like, he goes,
Speaker 4: I don't care what you are, like how like how
Speaker 4: how you present yourself whatever. He's like, you're a badass
Speaker 4: athlete and you can compete. And I'm like, he's like,
Speaker 4: I was super proud of you. So that was cool too,
Speaker 4: like to hear from somebody like Lee, right, you know,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah so but no, but just I her necklace
Speaker 4: with me all the time. It just I love being
Speaker 4: able to compete and have her right next to my
Speaker 4: heart like it's and she's always there too, mind you.
Speaker 4: I left her in can kuon and me and Ryan.
Speaker 4: She's there with Ryan right now because she got left
Speaker 4: in can Kun. But Ryan's Ryan's sick.
Speaker 3: Of course, A time that vacation looks so fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, even though I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: happy that le Roy gave you your flowers, but it's
Speaker 2: always nice to play it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, who me for me do this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because now now people know, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now people know now that you're now you're a threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicole Veronica, A few people literally I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was your thought about that?
Speaker 4: So I love that, especially Laurel. Like I don't know
Speaker 4: if it like progressed through the season, but like I
Speaker 4: got really close with her and just are like our
Speaker 4: dynamic together us pairing up together, we killed it and
Speaker 4: every time that we were together, we like dominated. So
Speaker 4: to be able to win that last final with her
Speaker 4: like was everything because it was like we we knew
Speaker 4: we were gonna do this, and we knew that we
Speaker 4: were both going to make it, and to do it
Speaker 4: at the same time too was awesome. So yeah, getting
Speaker 4: like the getting the flowers from all them too. I
Speaker 4: really wish I wanted to work a little more with Cara,
Speaker 4: just because how good she is at everything. But like
Speaker 4: there was one point, it was the stadium one and
Speaker 4: I was like, caraa, let's keet partners and she literally
Speaker 4: like looked at me. She's like A So I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: that's cool. So then afterwards, when she saw how fast
Speaker 4: I was, She's like, oh, wow, you're really fast. I'm
Speaker 4: like yep, so wow.
Speaker 2: You know, it's always nice to flex after the fashion,
Speaker 2: you know, like I told you, you don't see me
Speaker 2: partnered me.
Speaker 1: It's always enough to get respect.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm ready. I'm hopefully this this
Speaker 4: actually showcased everything and it's not going to be people's
Speaker 4: people like oh oh, Derek only got cast to get
Speaker 4: sent home First Store. Derek only got cast because blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, you know, like I can actually compete, So
Speaker 4: it's good.
Speaker 2: You can shut everybody up, which I love. But what
Speaker 2: I loved so much about this episode is Ryan.
Speaker 4: His soul, I know, and then.
Speaker 3: You you get to see what he what he thinks
Speaker 3: of you, and like how.
Speaker 4: Proud he is of you, I know, and that he
Speaker 4: didn't show it, but he left the letter afterwards and
Speaker 4: we read it and we all cried and everything, but yeah,
Speaker 4: he left the letter that was like super proud of you.
Speaker 4: I need to do this. This is our goal to
Speaker 4: get there, he's like one of one of us had
Speaker 4: to get there. So it's like, I'm happy it was
Speaker 4: you and yeah, and we but we knew at some
Speaker 4: point we were gonna have to go against each other.
Speaker 4: We know that. I'm not dumb, you know, right. It
Speaker 4: was good that it was that way and not like
Speaker 4: a physical one on one or something, which I would
Speaker 4: have hated. Yeah, but I mean this was this was
Speaker 4: all of our opportunity to get into it, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The physical one on one just turns one o one.
Speaker 2: One on one just turns into like maybe Rock's paper
Speaker 2: scissors or like a hug who could smother the other
Speaker 2: one with hugs? Yeah, because like you don't you don't
Speaker 2: want to, but I think it's it says something amazing
Speaker 2: about this whole experience that you can find one person
Speaker 2: who you really connect with, that you know, like has
Speaker 2: got you in life, you know, and forever. And I
Speaker 2: think that you and Ryan found that each other.
Speaker 4: And it's really nice and it was cool to like
Speaker 4: to reconnect because we met. We met right after my
Speaker 4: Real World season. We were doing our reunion and you
Speaker 4: know that Irish bar that they send us, Yeah, so
Speaker 4: I had met them there and he was living with
Speaker 4: Paul at the time, and then I stayed with them,
Speaker 4: and so we became friends. And then we just kind
Speaker 4: of like every now and then said hi, but getting
Speaker 4: back on All Stars too, and being able to connect
Speaker 4: and then stay as close as we are, and now
Speaker 4: we're we did All Starts four together, and hopefully we
Speaker 4: do something else in the future soon, you know.
Speaker 3: I wish, yeah.
Speaker 4: Cool, cool to have somebody like that.
Speaker 1: I loved your interview last episode where you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna buy us our our mansions so we
Speaker 1: can have nine cats and drink tea like old ladies.
Speaker 1: And that's that's when I knew. I like, was a
Speaker 1: huge fan of you because you mentioned we're.
Speaker 3: Also moving in. We're also going to move in take
Speaker 3: the basement.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm more of a dog person, honestly,
Speaker 4: But that's that's fine.
Speaker 3: I'll get the dogs.
Speaker 4: I just feel like, I just feel like eighty year
Speaker 4: old gay men need to have cats too.
Speaker 1: False advertising.
Speaker 3: I'm moving out, was the cower. You can have a
Speaker 3: lesbian wing full of cats.
Speaker 1: Fine, yeah, I'd love that.
Speaker 4: I love that for me.
Speaker 2: All right, we have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 3: Okay, enough of that, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 1: This season of All Stars is giving so much, you
Speaker 1: know obviously like with all the personal stories and then
Speaker 1: like seeing the amazing competition, like this is a sacked
Speaker 1: final and it's like really clear looking at the lineup,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, what was it like for you?
Speaker 1: Because obviously last time your experience on the challenge was
Speaker 1: getting eliminated very early, and this time around you're going
Speaker 1: to a final, Like what was the change the shift
Speaker 1: that happened within you to get you to this place
Speaker 1: of success?
Speaker 4: Honestly, Honestly, it was just being able to be given
Speaker 4: the chance to like actually do challenges because yeah, like
Speaker 4: I'm good at them, So I was able to do
Speaker 4: that and win a few and like have some say
Speaker 4: in what was going on. But eliminations just aren't my thing,
Speaker 4: you know, Like and it's I usually end up having
Speaker 4: to do like a fish one and it's always I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: well here we go again. Like I've never been able
Speaker 4: to get like a like a legit puzzle or something
Speaker 4: that could like hater to me, you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: the springs off, right, the switch was just being able
Speaker 4: to actually play the game, like we had numbers. I
Speaker 4: made some decisions on who to send in, Like when
Speaker 4: I got to send in Brad, that was really hard
Speaker 4: because he was part of our whole, Like we called
Speaker 4: it the Queen's corner in our room, and it was
Speaker 4: coming down to like send people and I don't I
Speaker 4: didn't want to play the game, or we're just going
Speaker 4: to keep sending Steven like that wasn't my I didn't
Speaker 4: want to do that, and he was already hurt, like
Speaker 4: it wasn't fair. Adam wanted to go in, and I'm
Speaker 4: not sending Ryan in, So that was I was like,
Speaker 4: who else am I going to send in? I'm like, sorry, Brad,
Speaker 4: Like it's got to be you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I think that's respectable to not want
Speaker 1: to send the same person in over and over again
Speaker 1: if you don't have to. Obviously, like sometimes it's uncomfortable
Speaker 1: to make those decisions, but like I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do, and obviously you're all your
Speaker 1: decisions led you to this point in the game where
Speaker 1: you are where you are right now. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like you got to look back at it all and
Speaker 1: be like everything every move that you made was important
Speaker 1: and imperative for you to get where you are in
Speaker 1: the game, and then everything is washed and then now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're in an RV with TJ driving.
Speaker 4: So that was the funnest thing to being able to
Speaker 4: like do that. I love the whole like nod back
Speaker 4: to road rolls throughout the whole the whole season. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was really cool. But yeah, I know, getting to
Speaker 4: that final though, I was like, so we're standing there
Speaker 4: and he's telling us, like, anybody can win this, and
Speaker 4: he always says stuff like that. You're like, okay, tee,
Speaker 4: let's let's run sixty two miles already, let's get it,
Speaker 4: let's get it going. But the fact that anybody could
Speaker 4: really win, I was like, shit, like, this isn't the
Speaker 4: final that I was expecting and like wanting. But it
Speaker 4: was cool though, like getting to experience like being on
Speaker 4: top of that car and shooting the paintballs. That was fun.
Speaker 2: How many people hit the secret Star just me? You know,
Speaker 2: you're the queen, You're the star Queen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they.
Speaker 1: Would have been better if it was worth like five points.
Speaker 4: No I swore it was, but yeah, no it was.
Speaker 4: But it was crazy. Yeah, but we're like shooting whatever.
Speaker 4: And I was really I think that was my downfall,
Speaker 4: not getting the advantage too because I was shooting, but
Speaker 4: I was also paying attention to where that other star was.
Speaker 4: There was like a little turn you passed it and
Speaker 4: I saw it on the side. I'm like, okay, that's
Speaker 4: where it is. So there's like a little turn that
Speaker 4: they did, and you start shooting at these stars and
Speaker 4: like literally I stopped shooting to like focus on that
Speaker 4: star and I hit it. So I was like, all right, cool.
Speaker 4: It was. It was insane, like I've never been on
Speaker 4: something like that. It felt really cool, but it sucks
Speaker 4: if you ran out of your paintball is like early,
Speaker 4: super early. That's why I was kind of like being
Speaker 4: strategic too, because if you run out of your paintballs,
Speaker 4: you're done.
Speaker 3: Wow. Did they say that in the rules? How many
Speaker 3: paintballs you got?
Speaker 4: Or did I miss that? One hundred? There was one
Speaker 4: hundred hundred?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, okay, dude.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about LeRoy's precision as a barber. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking he gets it from being a barber, because he even.
Speaker 3: Had it with his star with that electric like that.
Speaker 1: Man is coming in with the precision this far.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And it was funny too because
Speaker 4: I really needed a haircut towards the end and I
Speaker 4: was gonna sit down with Leroy. I'm like, hey, can
Speaker 4: you cut my hair? But to that point where we
Speaker 4: were at Adam just got eliminated. I was like, shit,
Speaker 4: everybody that's gone a haircut from LeRoy's is going home.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, no, just wait, you know, I'll just
Speaker 4: wait till everything goes work.
Speaker 3: That not a haircut curse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cut curves, damn.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean people really start believing in that switching deadircut.
Speaker 4: I didn't the first two challenges where I was in
Speaker 4: the bottom on the first one and second one, I
Speaker 4: was wearing a tank top. I didn't wear that tank
Speaker 4: top till the very end anymore. I was like, fuck
Speaker 4: that I'm not wearing No, I got to figure out
Speaker 4: what's changing. And then what happened. I won third and fourth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really start getting like these crazy superstitions, like
Speaker 2: I didn't wear underwear for once, while I rarely do.
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's TMI, but like you wear
Speaker 2: like certain socks and like, oh you lose that day.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm never wearing my challenge socks again.
Speaker 4: I don't wear high socks on the first one. I
Speaker 4: don't wear high socks on the person one either. That's
Speaker 4: like my thing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I think I wear challenge socks on
Speaker 2: the first one. But I death, I'm weird about the
Speaker 2: underwear thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't change.
Speaker 3: I always double my pants.
Speaker 1: I don't change for all season.
Speaker 4: I don't watch my uniform I final off to either, Like,
Speaker 4: I'll try to keep one of the uniforms dirty too,
Speaker 4: because when I was competing in high school and stuff,
Speaker 4: I would never watch my uniform when we would win.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, Well, obviously whatever you were doing was
Speaker 1: working for you, because you know you're in the final
Speaker 1: and you're you hit the magical star that first round.
Speaker 1: When you like looked around you after that first little
Speaker 1: part of the final, who did you feel like your
Speaker 1: biggest competition was.
Speaker 4: Well after that first part and Lera got the advantage,
Speaker 4: I'm like, kell, Yeah, like Lea is going to be
Speaker 4: the one to beat now. You know, obviously there's Laura
Speaker 4: and Kara. Those are the only other two that I
Speaker 4: was worried about. But yeah, no. I after that first part,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, got the advantage. We know he's you know,
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 1: But even even with a style of final like this,
Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping on Veronica. Let's yeah, oh.
Speaker 4: No, she just shocked herself. I like it.
Speaker 2: Let me go what you We have our periods for
Speaker 2: like forty eight days out of a year.
Speaker 3: Cramps are worse than getting shocked. I feel like.
Speaker 2: There's a certain kind of pain tolerance, and I feel
Speaker 2: like she's the type of woman she can kind of
Speaker 2: move it around.
Speaker 3: She you know, it's kind of her matro.
Speaker 4: Like I really wish I would have known who actually
Speaker 4: won them, because like, obviously we didn't get to see
Speaker 4: anybody do it, but I probably he looked like she
Speaker 4: did the best ace too. Yeah he did that fast.
Speaker 4: But I was really surprised and proud of her how
Speaker 4: how fast she did that. But we were just joking
Speaker 4: the entire time, like once she had her star, we
Speaker 4: knew she wasn't gonna lose it because obviously you want
Speaker 4: to keep Like That's why I like Laura was around
Speaker 4: for so long, because the girls were like, well, there's
Speaker 4: our scapegoat if we need to, like really need a star.
Speaker 4: You know, like we'll get it from her or whatever.
Speaker 4: So that's why I like a lot of people just
Speaker 4: kept Ronica too, because they're like, well, if it's a final,
Speaker 4: like she has to do and she was like, I
Speaker 4: might actually have to do this final, like I'm scared.
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody thinks that way because it's like,
Speaker 2: you want to get to a final, but you get
Speaker 2: there and you're like, I don't know if I really
Speaker 2: like because you hear of them or you've been in
Speaker 2: one and you're like, oh God, sleeping outside and doing whatever,
Speaker 2: like you work the whole season to get there, and
Speaker 2: you like, do I read, but.
Speaker 3: Do I really want to fucking do this?
Speaker 2: But the thing is that like I hate that people like, oh,
Speaker 2: we'll leave these people around.
Speaker 3: Like if we have to go get it.
Speaker 4: But also she was very very very like without much
Speaker 4: she didn't want to no, not being okay with that,
Speaker 4: but how much she did not want to run this final, like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, I want to win, but do I really
Speaker 4: want to do this? So she was very upfront about itself.
Speaker 1: She didn't want to run it. She wanted to ride
Speaker 1: it on the top of a bar with a paintball
Speaker 1: gun in her hand, not that she wanted to do it,
Speaker 1: and that's what she got.
Speaker 3: That's the final she got me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was definitely catered to that, which is good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's cool when anybody can win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because then then you.
Speaker 3: Kind of watch and you never know, you never.
Speaker 4: Know, Anisa. So I was, I mean, I'm glad that
Speaker 4: it actually showed me saying how scared I wasn't getting
Speaker 4: shocked because on Rivals too, I had just shocked myself
Speaker 4: before then. I couldn't open my mouth all the way. Remember,
Speaker 4: and we did this challenge where we were, oh, this
Speaker 4: challenge where I had to like, yeah, we had to
Speaker 4: do like this thing where we had to put a
Speaker 4: ball in our mouth. I could not put the ball
Speaker 4: in my mouth because I couldn't open my mouth like
Speaker 4: I could not.
Speaker 3: We were your attached to our partner and we had
Speaker 3: to pick a top and crawl.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and Carr got put in the game because nat
Speaker 3: Naomi had to leave.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I literally it was called like the X
Speaker 4: Games or something like that or Triple X games, Triple
Speaker 4: X games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this wouldn't do it, and then CT had
Speaker 2: to do it by myself.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, did we get shocked before that?
Speaker 4: I did. I was running a tough mutter and I
Speaker 4: got shocked so bad. So that was just like PTSDs.
Speaker 3: We got shocked later that season, I.
Speaker 4: Know you did. Thank God I didn't do it, but
Speaker 4: I had like really bad people. I wouldn't. I don't
Speaker 4: think I would have done it. If I stayed there
Speaker 4: and did that, I probably would have been like, no, well.
Speaker 3: I feel less guilty, dude.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I think I think the shock factor is
Speaker 1: truly a shock factor one when you're in a competition,
Speaker 1: So I really I get it why it's terrifying, and
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm mostly shocked by Ace Veronica and all
Speaker 1: the people had just went up there and gave no fucks,
Speaker 1: because then you just wonder what more is? What more
Speaker 1: like is that person came.
Speaker 4: And my dumb ass was like listening to like technique
Speaker 4: and stuff, and Steve kind of fucked me on that one.
Speaker 4: And he didn't do it like on purpose, but he
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah, if you do it this way
Speaker 4: and you like take your time doing it this way
Speaker 4: or whatever, you won't touch it. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna try to do that. And the thing
Speaker 4: is It wasn't completely like on shock the entire time
Speaker 4: it was going on and like second like it was
Speaker 4: like two seconds on and then two seconds off. So
Speaker 4: there was a point where I hit it a few times,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't get shocked, What the hell? So
Speaker 4: like I try to do it again and then I
Speaker 4: got shocked.
Speaker 1: You know, do you think it was scarier than not
Speaker 1: being able to watch other people compete, because then you're
Speaker 1: just listening to people scream and then you're just.
Speaker 4: Like and then I definitely let my inner sabage fucked
Speaker 4: me in that one. I was like, fuck, they're getting shocked,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get Like then I start thinking about
Speaker 4: my jog and I'm like this is fucked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And do you think that, like so far
Speaker 1: the Final has been solo competitions where you don't get
Speaker 1: to see your competitors' work, do you think that the
Speaker 1: whole rest of the Final is gonna continue like this or.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it's gonna be. I definitely think
Speaker 4: it's gonna be where we're not gonna be able to
Speaker 4: see each other's stuff, Like it's gonna be. It was
Speaker 4: just crazy too because even this season, like we didn't
Speaker 4: get to see a lot of the elimination stuff, Like
Speaker 4: we couldn't see puzzles, we couldn't see right, like all
Speaker 4: that stuff, which I kind of like because that means
Speaker 4: nobody can help you from the stands. I like that,
Speaker 4: but it also makes it kind of hard to because
Speaker 4: I like to just look at the things that are
Speaker 4: happening and be like, oh I could have done that,
Speaker 4: or oh that looks cool like, and I try to
Speaker 4: solve it as the I'm going you know so, But
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think it's gonna definitely be since it's
Speaker 4: anybody's game, We're not gonna be able to see anybody's
Speaker 4: results or see anybody's stuff, especially in this big ass
Speaker 4: warehouse that we're in. Like it was creepy, Like going
Speaker 4: into it looked like a scary movie. Like it was.
Speaker 4: It was weird.
Speaker 3: They love to have those little elements of like of
Speaker 3: like not Screamed Jesus of like seven or so, yeah,
Speaker 3: where they like to freak you out.
Speaker 1: They have the movie set and then we have the actors,
Speaker 1: and we cast Leroy is fake screamer, and we cast
Speaker 1: Fule as fake crier.
Speaker 3: I thought she was really crying. I thought she was
Speaker 3: really yeah.
Speaker 4: So did I. And then this bitch looking at the
Speaker 4: camera too afterwards, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, that is so Her screams were so high?
Speaker 1: Why is she so manipulative? Like what an asshole?
Speaker 4: That's her thing? Asshole that I get me wrong? Her
Speaker 4: stream kind of fucked me up to like it was
Speaker 4: a combination of LeRoy's didn't because I like, yeah, he
Speaker 4: went first. He's like, yeah, that hurt him like that
Speaker 4: that one was fake, but hers sounded real. And then
Speaker 4: her cry afterwards, I was like, ship, what if it's
Speaker 4: really that bad? Like so, her her cry and then
Speaker 4: Steve's little like like how to do it kind of
Speaker 4: just screwed me over. So I was just like, fuck,
Speaker 4: I'm in the bottom. I just did this to get here,
Speaker 4: and now I'm in the bottom. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Do you think now that you've done that okay and
Speaker 2: you have to if you were to have to do
Speaker 2: it again, do you think you'd be a little bit
Speaker 2: more relaxed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the shock was I mean, it hurt, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't as bad as the other one. Like the
Speaker 4: other one literally, you know, this one was right super
Speaker 4: quick and it was more like a like a punch,
Speaker 4: Like somebody just like punched you so nice. If I
Speaker 4: would have just done that, great, And from the very beginning, again,
Speaker 4: I wish I would have gotten shocked earlier, because if
Speaker 4: I would have gotten shocked earlier, I would have gone
Speaker 4: faster just to get it over. Yeah. So me being
Speaker 4: strategic and not touching it at all and not getting
Speaker 4: shocked at all the beginning screw screwed everything.
Speaker 1: And you know what it is, This is like just
Speaker 1: something that we all learn as we compete. It's like
Speaker 1: you have to just put your blinders on, especially when
Speaker 1: you don't get to see somebody else compete, because yes,
Speaker 1: we all want to get that information from people who
Speaker 1: have competed before us, just to see if you can
Speaker 1: get any hints. But also sometimes those things can get
Speaker 1: in our head and make us overthink. So it's like
Speaker 1: just go in there and do it by yourself and
Speaker 1: just figure out out when you're there. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the key sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, overthinking definitely puts you in a little.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really there was just I really, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: you want you don't want that many people because like
Speaker 4: everybody has to share that fifty thousand so we were like,
Speaker 4: if there's gonna be before they told us we're gonna
Speaker 4: be eliminated, be like, so one person's gonna win and
Speaker 4: seven of us are gonna split fifty thousand dollars really
Speaker 4: like that's crazy. And then he's like, oh, there's gonna
Speaker 4: be a elimination, Like ah, makes sense now. So it's
Speaker 4: like okay, but I could do this over again and
Speaker 4: make myself to a final. I would really really prefer
Speaker 4: a real final. Yeah, not that this wasn't a real final,
Speaker 4: but like I was, I wanted to eat cow guts
Speaker 4: and brains and eyeballs and I wanted to fucking.
Speaker 3: Wait, how did you prepare for that eating part?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't mind doing that. I can eat anything.
Speaker 4: My uncle is a butcher, and I used to like
Speaker 4: he would made us eat stuff like that, like not raw.
Speaker 2: So they were like, here the eyeballs eat yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: well they never make us eat anything raw, thank god,
Speaker 2: because we're.
Speaker 3: Not like I wish.
Speaker 4: When I had to eat the cow testicle on Battle
Speaker 4: of the Seasons, I'm like, I can do that. I've
Speaker 4: eaten that before, so I'd like be into it. And
Speaker 4: it was no, it's squishes. It fuckings. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna opt out and to eat the intestine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have that layer of what's it called that
Speaker 2: like gelatinous like squishy layer on the outside of the testicle,
Speaker 2: which is like the memorin I'm guessing, I don't know,
Speaker 2: don't quote me. And then I think with intestines, if
Speaker 2: you leave them too cold, they start to get really
Speaker 2: fatty and hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like.
Speaker 3: They look like they look like ramsiers because they're curly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're curly like this, and they don't grind down.
Speaker 2: I had I had to drink the chicken ones. They
Speaker 2: don't grind all the way down. So it's like, yeah, see,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a more gaggy person. With like temperature, I
Speaker 2: can't do anything. It's like body temperature.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a vegan. So I just practice eating
Speaker 1: my house plants. I just pick him up, pick them
Speaker 1: out right from the room.
Speaker 2: I lick, I lick dirt for my plants. I just
Speaker 2: go lick trees. YU just a big old hippie vegan.
Speaker 2: But you know, you should pray that you're on a
Speaker 2: show with Tori because they don't give you balls. Instead,
Speaker 2: they give you tofu balls and like green smoothies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone's like, that's worse. I'm like, listen, guys,
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is everybody wants to talk shit about
Speaker 1: how I don't eat meat until they're in a final
Speaker 1: with me, and then they don't have to eat meat.
Speaker 3: No, then you have to eat.
Speaker 2: Then you have to eat eight pounds of pasta. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is fucking terrifying.
Speaker 3: That's worse.
Speaker 2: I'd rather choke down one blood sausage than eat a
Speaker 2: fucking Maggiano's dry ass.
Speaker 3: Dinner with toy.
Speaker 2: So Derek, you may, I mean, listen, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of future I feel for you, so you might be
Speaker 2: able to have a vegan feast with Victoria at some point.
Speaker 4: That was it too, like I I mean, if this
Speaker 4: was going to be my last hurrale, like I did it,
Speaker 4: like you know, I made it to a final whatever,
Speaker 4: so if I ever can't be fed again in the future,
Speaker 4: you know, Like I'm like, I think I proved myself
Speaker 4: that I am worth in biting back you now, like
Speaker 4: I bring something.
Speaker 2: Listen, you are you have always been so worthy and
Speaker 2: I love that there's like a spotlight on you now
Speaker 2: and it would be mind blowing and so disappointing if
Speaker 2: we didn't get to see you again. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: you're going to give a lot of people a run
Speaker 2: for their money and you're going to be a threat.
Speaker 2: And I want to be there to watch it and
Speaker 2: not from my couch. If anyone's listening, production, we need
Speaker 2: to be reunited immediately.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the bitch wants to The Bitch wants to come back.
Speaker 3: Yes, the cities out.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Dan, Greg your titties?
Speaker 1: What do you think? The biggest takeaway from this season was?
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not over yet, so don't spoil everything for us.
Speaker 1: We're still rooting, no, but you know, the last day
Speaker 1: we get to talk to you. So yeah, what was
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway?
Speaker 4: Just actually like believing in myself. And I know that
Speaker 4: sounds kind of corny, but it is, like I every
Speaker 4: night that I was there, I'm like, you got this,
Speaker 4: you got this, and like being able to just like
Speaker 4: talk myself into like doing doing it and doing well
Speaker 4: at everything that I was doing. So yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: a reassurance and a nice belief to myself. Is what
Speaker 4: I what I got out of it.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that, we love that we
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's really sweet. I think it's really important.
Speaker 1: I think every every time you go to compete in
Speaker 1: something like that, you meet yourself deeper and you become
Speaker 1: more confident. It's just repetition and you've proven it time
Speaker 1: and time again this season.
Speaker 2: So I think it's All Stars too. I think All
Speaker 2: Stars has a special magical thing.
Speaker 4: Where it does.
Speaker 2: It's like you find yourself again and in that space
Speaker 2: where people, whether they're vocal about it or not, root
Speaker 2: for you, where they depend on you, where they think
Speaker 2: highly of you, where they fucking respect.
Speaker 4: You, and everybody's just so happy for each other. And
Speaker 4: we were telling so like cam Leroy Carra, they all
Speaker 4: came in it like with the mindset of like the
Speaker 4: regular like the regular show, of how you're like supposed
Speaker 4: to like backstab and all this kind of stuff. They
Speaker 4: were trying to play like the regular game or like
Speaker 4: it's not like that, guys, like you guys are gonna
Speaker 4: see that on All Stars it's not like that, and
Speaker 4: literally come to find out like down the way, they're like, wow,
Speaker 4: this is really different, like it's and we like this,
Speaker 4: like this is cool. Everybody gets each other. Everybody's rooting
Speaker 4: for each other, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think it's great to go there and then
Speaker 2: like kind of find yourself again and then come back
Speaker 2: even better.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm so excited. Can you tease anything about the
Speaker 2: rest of this final without giving away the ending of
Speaker 2: the show?
Speaker 4: I can, uh, I can tell you that people stars
Speaker 4: mean something in this final. Yeah, so the stars weren't
Speaker 4: just pretty decorations. They mean something.
Speaker 1: Tell me right now. They open them up and inside
Speaker 1: there's some food. It's a lunch box.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's a pair.
Speaker 1: It's oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So no, they definitely come there. There. They play
Speaker 4: a big part in this final.
Speaker 2: Sick.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to find out.
Speaker 3: Me too.
Speaker 2: But we are really really proud of you, and I
Speaker 2: think the viewers are going to fall in love with
Speaker 2: you all over again because you are magnificent. And I
Speaker 2: think everything happens, thanks girl, happens in the time that
Speaker 2: it should.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like.
Speaker 4: A reason when it needs to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm really really proud of you.
Speaker 4: Oh and the bitch made the poster.
Speaker 3: Yes, legs made the poster.
Speaker 2: That's how you have that's how you have to make
Speaker 2: a name for you. About how fast you are. But
Speaker 2: I gotta figure it. I gotta figure it out. It
Speaker 2: has to be magnificent because I'm just thoroughly impressed with
Speaker 2: like your very fair gameplay.
Speaker 3: She didn't have to be messy.
Speaker 2: Like very straightforward like game and it all like played
Speaker 2: out for you. You make it to the final and
Speaker 2: you impress people along the way, and you didn't have
Speaker 2: to be a dick.
Speaker 3: So she's been saying it all along.
Speaker 4: Girl, she's a track star.
Speaker 2: Legs, she's a track star.
Speaker 4: She's about to back state champion and track girl, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, would you run?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hurdles was flexible.
Speaker 4: The no. I did the one ten, but I also
Speaker 4: did the three hundred hurdles too. I was.
Speaker 3: You're a sprinter. One ten you would have been out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: And also I also can run long distance too, so
Speaker 4: we know.
Speaker 2: If anyone needed to know, we saw it on the bleachers,
Speaker 2: because I mean.
Speaker 3: I saw it on Instagram.
Speaker 2: It just got done a round, just ran three miles
Speaker 2: in five minutes. If anyone was one in the hot
Speaker 2: Arizona sun, if anyone was wondering, oh, I.
Speaker 4: Know right, you got to throw it in your bracelet Arison.
Speaker 4: It's one hundred and twenty degrees and I just ran
Speaker 4: five miles but no big to work now.
Speaker 1: Well, Derek, since we're talking about your Instagram, where can
Speaker 1: we follow you and how can we support you and
Speaker 1: follow your journey and make sure we send you a
Speaker 1: bunch of pictures of Anissa.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm really really creative when it comes to my name.
Speaker 4: First off, I was the first person to have TV Derek,
Speaker 4: and then I got rid of it and now Derek
Speaker 4: kay as it. But it's just my name. So it's
Speaker 4: Derek us you with periods in between each letter D
Speaker 4: dot dot dot k dot.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you can be paramount Derek.
Speaker 4: Right, I was gonna be Derek PEP plus plus.
Speaker 1: I think that's good.
Speaker 3: I really want that to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Derek for taking I'm out of your
Speaker 2: day and it has been such a pleasure watching you.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what happens at the continuation
Speaker 2: of this episode.
Speaker 4: Right, Thanks for having me, guys, it's good to be back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she bet.
Speaker 3: I am so impressed by Derek.
Speaker 2: Not only is he such a kind and funny person,
Speaker 2: but I'm just so proud of his efforts and how
Speaker 2: far he has come.
Speaker 3: This season.
Speaker 1: I agree. He really is just an amazing competitor and
Speaker 1: he got to show that. And also he's has a
Speaker 1: very moving story and it was movable to watch him
Speaker 1: express that and be so open about that, especially after
Speaker 1: his experience on All Starts too. So just like, come back, queen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm excited to see what the future has to hold,
Speaker 1: And Anissa, I'm excited to see what your future has
Speaker 1: to hold. Where can we follow, well, my future.
Speaker 3: Has to hold?
Speaker 1: I don't know where can we follow you? On Instagram?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You can follow me there on Instagram. It's Anissa MTV
Speaker 2: A N E E s A m t V on Instagram, Tory,
Speaker 2: where can they follow you?
Speaker 3: Support you?
Speaker 1: You guys can follow me on Instagram as well. Tory
Speaker 1: Underscore deal. It's where I like to be. If you
Speaker 1: want to come see me, come slide the med.
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